I would transfer to Spade, then bid 3hearts. Which is gameforcing. Expecting my partner to bid 4h with 4hearts, 3NT with 2-3 hearts and 2 card spade. and 4 spade with 3card support. so I get the full info. In me and my partner systems, we play Drop dead stayman, means you can bid 1NT - 2c 2d - 2h/s as a pass down, We use it as bad hands that just don't want to play in 1NT, trying to find some 4/3 fit or anything. might even pass down diamonds if we got it. With 4-5 clubs just pass it down, need good distribution to transfer to club and make 2 additional tricks.
Hi Kimii, I have never heard what you have described as 'Drop Dead Stayman', but I play the same system (I call it 'Garbage Stayman' or 'Weak Stayman'). Transferring to spades and then bidding hearts I play as invitational, so bidding 2H* and then 3H, is non-forcing in my system. There are all sorts of different ways to deal with hands with 2 majors in response to a 1NT opener, so it is up to you and your partner of course. I play that if you go through Stayman, it is either weak (Garbage Stayman) if you next bid at the 2 level or game-forcing if you instead bid at the 3 level, and if you instead transfer and then bid the other major, it is invitational. Cheers, Dom
@@learnmodernbridge101 I don't find trouble in bidding those strong hands. I feel it's more often troublesome with weak 0-7p hands who does not really want to Pass. if it's short clubs aswell, bidding feels very good.. But if you don't have 5 diamonds and 4 spades, and gamble in 2clubs, and partner responds 2hearts, you can Stop the contract in 2spades to not get any more out of hand. But if you have hearts and Diamonds, there's not really much you can do. can't transfer with 4 or less. so I usually pass. Might also have like 4324 . The top contract is to find 2spades whenever it's 4-4. our system can gamble on that, as if partner bids 2d or 2h, we can drop dead in 2spades. Forced to pass Works with 3424 aswell, as you can drop dead in 2H over 2D, or just pass with 4-3 if partner has 2spades. I really like this stayman I've not seen any bad consequenses of playing it yet. I really don't like to promise invitational
Whilst this is true, if the opponents could bring about a heart ruff, they could do that themselves in any case, so we require the hearts to be reasonably distributed otherwise we are in trouble. Hope this helps, Dom
Such a beautiful game. We learned the bidding also the defense to bring down the contract.
I have no idea how that game works, but it looks fun
I would transfer to Spade, then bid 3hearts. Which is gameforcing. Expecting my partner to bid 4h with 4hearts, 3NT with 2-3 hearts and 2 card spade. and 4 spade with 3card support. so I get the full info. In me and my partner systems, we play Drop dead stayman, means you can bid
1NT - 2c
2d - 2h/s as a pass down, We use it as bad hands that just don't want to play in 1NT, trying to find some 4/3 fit or anything. might even pass down diamonds if we got it. With 4-5 clubs just pass it down, need good distribution to transfer to club and make 2 additional tricks.
Hi Kimii,
I have never heard what you have described as 'Drop Dead Stayman', but I play the same system (I call it 'Garbage Stayman' or 'Weak Stayman').
Transferring to spades and then bidding hearts I play as invitational, so bidding 2H* and then 3H, is non-forcing in my system. There are all sorts of different ways to deal with hands with 2 majors in response to a 1NT opener, so it is up to you and your partner of course. I play that if you go through Stayman, it is either weak (Garbage Stayman) if you next bid at the 2 level or game-forcing if you instead bid at the 3 level, and if you instead transfer and then bid the other major, it is invitational.
Cheers,
Dom
@@learnmodernbridge101 I don't find trouble in bidding those strong hands. I feel it's more often troublesome with weak 0-7p hands who does not really want to Pass. if it's short clubs aswell, bidding feels very good.. But if you don't have 5 diamonds and 4 spades, and gamble in 2clubs, and partner responds 2hearts, you can Stop the contract in 2spades to not get any more out of hand. But if you have hearts and Diamonds, there's not really much you can do. can't transfer with 4 or less. so I usually pass.
Might also have like 4324 . The top contract is to find 2spades whenever it's 4-4. our system can gamble on that, as if partner bids 2d or 2h, we can drop dead in 2spades. Forced to pass
Works with 3424 aswell, as you can drop dead in 2H over 2D, or just pass with 4-3 if partner has 2spades. I really like this stayman
I've not seen any bad consequenses of playing it yet. I really don't like to promise invitational
It looks to meet that this play risks losing an extra trick if the hearts do not break.
Whilst this is true, if the opponents could bring about a heart ruff, they could do that themselves in any case, so we require the hearts to be reasonably distributed otherwise we are in trouble.
Hope this helps,
Dom