Idk anything about oxygen levels and engines but that tunnel is 1100 feet long and the engines are in notch 8 so all their exaust builds up in the tunnels till they exit. The CN engine was putting out the most exaust
Also noticed another great thing you got besides the smoking diesel electrics and the monster sized BNSF reefer boxes that were oddities on the train. JB Hunt Intermodal has ventured into the 53-foot reefer container business. They had about eight stacked on the train...at least.
Nice recording of the Canadian SD70M-2. SHE was the only EMD on the mixed goods train. You could see smoke emanating even from the GEVO master and it's slave DPU. You could also see it coming from the helper C44-9W. But what surprised me was that bellowing exhaust from the Canadian National EMD SD70M-2. Now when you see an EMD smoking like that, it's really hard working under load and probably the hardest working.
For this reason, the FSRR 4100-4132 (Ferrosur) became FXE 4100-4132 (Ferromex) both of GrupoMéxico Transportes [GMXT]. Well, the machines died inside the tunnels of Veracruz south of Mexico. These machines now only operate outside Ferrosur territory. These roster are model SD70ACe as in the video.
must go thru some air filters lol the last unit was barely running from dirty air from the first two units smoke…need to go back to the tunnel style air intakes
All modern 6 axle diesel power actually has their air intake in the same spot as the old tunnel motors. The GE Locos and EMD ACe's at least. The air intakes are the vents just above the walkway at the rear of the locos in my understanding
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998 the emd does too, just doesn’t use filters like the GE units did. they used actual air filters emd uses a weird style in front of the air charger
The SD70M-2's are rebuilds that are entirely based to standards and specifications of the SD70ACE's.Canadian National and Norfolk Southern own these units.As a matter of fact Norfolk Southern has removed some of them from storage and is rebuilding them again as SD70ICC's.
The explanation I got on why the locomotives smoke like that through long tunnels is because of the air/fuel ratio being out of whack. The accumulation of exhaust reduces the amount of fresh intake air. Reduction of air + unchanging fuel supply equates to a richer mixture. But a long tunnel like this causes the air/fuel ratio to get REALLY rich, hence the smoke show. I think the GEs smoke less because they have something that can sense this air restriction and dials down the fuel to keep the AF ratio consistent. I could be wrong on this though. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in here.
Even the SP Snoots had this issue....deferred maintenance.....run 'em until they break..... ruclips.net/video/wXpTRpn_fuQ/видео.html&ab_channel=1MTSRider
When a loco smokes like that, doesn't that indicate a malfunction of the engine? Can't sensors detect this? If the malfunction is detected, why isn't the train put into emergency with the loco shut down? I've seen several videos on youtube of not only smoke but fire coming out and yet they keep going as if the engineer has not idea what's happening. How can that be?
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998Sensors do indeed "notice" the engine being starved of oxygen and adjust the engine parameters accordingly before recovering. Since this is expected performance from the locomotive, it's pretty rare for a maintenence message to even be set and the computers don't detect anything to be wrong. Remember, trains have been making this trip for decades.
There is no mechanical problem whatsoever with these engines. The smoking is due to a lack of oxygen and you can see it clear once it exits the tunnel. Emergency braking is not something you just use willy nilly. It can derail your train, making a little bit of smoke the least of your problems.
@pootispiker2866 there was a BNSF dash 9 that blew a turbo in Tehachapi summer of 2022 it was the DPU. It made it quite a ways before a Railfan called it in and they got the train stopped. Started 4 fires. But this 70M-2 is just old and dirty. Its still spitting smoke as it rounds the corner. That tunnel is over 1000 feet long. Oxygen might play a tiny part but i doubt its the whole reason. All the exaust just built up in the tunnel and they are most likely in notch 8 full throttle
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998 exhaust doesn't contain much oxygen. Exhaust is built up in the tunnel that three big diesel engines are trying to ruin flat out in. Engines need oxygen. Two plus two.
Am dat videoclip ul inapoi ca sa număr vagoanele . In afara de cele 4 locomotive ( 3 inainte si una in urma ) am numărat 91 vagoane. Iese la cineva mai multe la numărat ?
A as Rail Vehicle Maintenance College Student a locomotive is not supposed to be smoking like that . That’s not normal and that locomotive needs maintenance.
@@Sacto1654😂😂 their is no “serious filtration”. It’s the same type of filter as your home AC. It offers no smoke filtration at all. The smoke is not an issue to the crew because it’s behind them. Notice when the locomotive exits the tunnel, there’s no smoke around the cab. The smoke is only at the rear of the lead locomotive, and then everything behind it.
It definitely wasn’t just the CN SD70M that was smoking. The BNSF ES44AC and Dash 9-44CW were also smoking hard, so why call out CN on its own? Got a beef with Canadian railroads that aren’t as obsessed with EPAs as the US is? Tier 2 and 3 locomotives are still commonplace and legal in Canada while the US is “going to war” with companies that still operate them.
Locomotives produced a lot more smoke than this back when cabooses were around. And don’t forget steam locomotives as well. But the smoke at the rear of the train is not as bad as you think. The Locomotives are long out of the tunnel by the time the caboose makes it into the tunnel, and the majority of the smoke has dissipated.
WOW that is wild looking, almost like a STEAM loco coming out of the tunnel, great capture!!! -Ken
Amazing video!
That 3rd locomotive wasnt happy untill it got out of the tunnel.. that shows how low the oxygen levels are !
Thanks 4 sharing!
Idk anything about oxygen levels and engines but that tunnel is 1100 feet long and the engines are in notch 8 so all their exaust builds up in the tunnels till they exit. The CN engine was putting out the most exaust
That ACE sure was smoking up a storm that’s for sure!
Well actually thats an SD70M-2
@@NS1221ProductionsShut yo "erm actually ☝🤓" ass up
Vídeo espetacular! O carro já estava de prontidão caso algo acontecesse...parabéns, belo flagrante! Inscrita no Canal! Like
tottaly awsome.fantabulous.
Now that is a proper Tunnel #5 exit! 😍 I could sit there all day just to see that over and over again.
Reminiscent of the SP oil can days..
And absolutely destroy your lungs, as well as the environment.
@@midwest1448 No, I'll stay upwind of it. 👍
@@santeebandit3246 It sure is. 🤤
@@midwest1448I could care less. I'd still sit there
superb video Bro ❤😍😍
Oh god, this is just like what the sp tunnel motors did
Those two strokes love their oxygen!
Also noticed another great thing you got besides the smoking diesel electrics and the monster sized BNSF reefer boxes that were oddities on the train. JB Hunt Intermodal has ventured into the 53-foot reefer container business. They had about eight stacked on the train...at least.
Awesome catch!!!!!
definitetly a cool catch!
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Great video, when i was a kid, i imagined being A#1 in, Emperor of the North!
Ta starsza lokomotywa ładnie dymi. Tiry na tory 👍
Nice recording of the Canadian SD70M-2. SHE was the only EMD on the mixed goods train. You could see smoke emanating even from the GEVO master and it's slave DPU. You could also see it coming from the helper C44-9W. But what surprised me was that bellowing exhaust from the Canadian National EMD SD70M-2. Now when you see an EMD smoking like that, it's really hard working under load and probably the hardest working.
That SD70 thought it was an ALCO! 😆
Wow awesome video 👍
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That was really cool.
CN is doing something right! We roll coal in Alberta
Amazing video 😱🚂🔥
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SUPER NICE VIDEO
Send it to South Carolina to get rid of the mosquitoes.
Thats needed everywhere lol
Very cool. I’d sit there all day and watch trains.
The CN sd70m2 was belching out diesel clouds I love it it's freedom to me the smell of diesel
Wow, that EMD was not happy! Do you by chance know what horn 7675 has?
Not sure. K5HL of some sort is my best guess.
First Gen K5HL
That 4th Loco is well on its way to a blown turbo
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Definitely CN Locomotive needs Engine work ASAP When Returning back Home
I think it’s more about how much less oxygen their is in the tunnel because once it came out it looked fine
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Isn’t that the same location where those oil can trains used to go?
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@ gotcha
For this reason, the FSRR 4100-4132 (Ferrosur) became FXE 4100-4132 (Ferromex) both of GrupoMéxico Transportes [GMXT]. Well, the machines died inside the tunnels of Veracruz south of Mexico. These machines now only operate outside Ferrosur territory.
These roster are model SD70ACe as in the video.
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must go thru some air filters lol the last unit was barely running from dirty air from the first two units smoke…need to go back to the tunnel style air intakes
All modern 6 axle diesel power actually has their air intake in the same spot as the old tunnel motors. The GE Locos and EMD ACe's at least. The air intakes are the vents just above the walkway at the rear of the locos in my understanding
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998 the emd does too, just doesn’t use filters like the GE units did. they used actual air filters emd uses a weird style in front of the air charger
Incredible video! Anyways, that is a SD70ACe?
SD70M-2. its s DC ACe
The SD70M-2's are rebuilds that are entirely based to standards and specifications of the SD70ACE's.Canadian National and Norfolk Southern own these units.As a matter of fact Norfolk Southern has removed some of them from storage and is rebuilding them again as SD70ICC's.
@@Slim_SlidOk thanks for the information!
what about that older gen k5hl
Rip anyone walking through the tunnel
If that isn’t the most cartoon looking tunnel entrance…Did Wile E. Coyote draw it?
And speaking of Wile E., i recently saw a video of a Road Runner escaping from a huge snake, instead of Wile E. Coyote.
What reason is there why they've no ventilation fan on the tunnel? Can you imagine what it was like on a steamer?
Tunnel isnt long enough. Its only about 1,000 feet or 1,100 feet
Hope the ACs working well with that much exhaust 😷😬
Gotta love it when youre not making great speed and you get caught in the tunnel with a DC motor.
how they do to survive potential suffocating from that smoke ? this could lead to catastrophic failure to the locomotives
Locomotives are designed so the smoke doesn't affect them and tunnels are not long enough. Crew is ahead of the smoke.
The explanation I got on why the locomotives smoke like that through long tunnels is because of the air/fuel ratio being out of whack. The accumulation of exhaust reduces the amount of fresh intake air. Reduction of air + unchanging fuel supply equates to a richer mixture. But a long tunnel like this causes the air/fuel ratio to get REALLY rich, hence the smoke show. I think the GEs smoke less because they have something that can sense this air restriction and dials down the fuel to keep the AF ratio consistent. I could be wrong on this though. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in here.
Cor! I,like a bit of clag!!!
Just like it's Ancestors! lol
Nice horn salute from the bnsf crew
They were honking bc of the crossing….
Last engine also to push or only for the brakes?
If its running its pushing/pulling
Hopefully that crew had respirators, incase they broke down in the tunnel. 😷
That EMD was rollin' the coal lol
lol
Bad injectors? Nay, nay, squire! It's an ALCO prime mover replaced by a crew in Medicine Hat, eh?
Even the SP Snoots had this issue....deferred maintenance.....run 'em until they break..... ruclips.net/video/wXpTRpn_fuQ/видео.html&ab_channel=1MTSRider
When a loco smokes like that, doesn't that indicate a malfunction of the engine? Can't sensors detect this? If the malfunction is detected, why isn't the train put into emergency with the loco shut down? I've seen several videos on youtube of not only smoke but fire coming out and yet they keep going as if the engineer has not idea what's happening. How can that be?
There is no system that notices it. Its up to the crew or bystanders to notice and report it
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998Sensors do indeed "notice" the engine being starved of oxygen and adjust the engine parameters accordingly before recovering. Since this is expected performance from the locomotive, it's pretty rare for a maintenence message to even be set and the computers don't detect anything to be wrong. Remember, trains have been making this trip for decades.
There is no mechanical problem whatsoever with these engines. The smoking is due to a lack of oxygen and you can see it clear once it exits the tunnel. Emergency braking is not something you just use willy nilly. It can derail your train, making a little bit of smoke the least of your problems.
@pootispiker2866 there was a BNSF dash 9 that blew a turbo in Tehachapi summer of 2022 it was the DPU. It made it quite a ways before a Railfan called it in and they got the train stopped. Started 4 fires. But this 70M-2 is just old and dirty. Its still spitting smoke as it rounds the corner. That tunnel is over 1000 feet long. Oxygen might play a tiny part but i doubt its the whole reason. All the exaust just built up in the tunnel and they are most likely in notch 8 full throttle
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998 exhaust doesn't contain much oxygen. Exhaust is built up in the tunnel that three big diesel engines are trying to ruin flat out in. Engines need oxygen. Two plus two.
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Am dat videoclip ul inapoi ca sa număr vagoanele . In afara de cele 4 locomotive ( 3 inainte si una in urma ) am numărat 91 vagoane. Iese la cineva mai multe la numărat ?
wow cool
WOW! Thats an EMD❗ and we thought it was forest fires from Canada making all that smoke, not a CN freight engine🤔😔😷😱❗
Quase pensei que essa máquina disparou o motor.Mas pelo jeito, parece uma subida de rampa que ela está.
Num sei como não afoga dentro do túnel 🥶
It's just smoke from being in the tunnel.
Looks like tehachappi area
Its above Caliente on the Tehachapi Pass.
Love that CN loco just belching diesel exhaust
Patri services and electric make line engan
so the GM the only one belching plumes of smoke...
the three GEs barely a whiff of exhaust
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The EPA's not going to like that.
If the train hit a deer, it would be a very “cross buck”.
A as Rail Vehicle Maintenance College Student a locomotive is not supposed to be smoking like that . That’s not normal and that locomotive needs maintenance.
@@metrorailinlosangelesprodu4407 i like them that way though
Thats not a Sd70M-2 thats a Sd45T-2
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You should have cut to 0:25.
Get off tiktok. You can survive 20 seconds.
One engine pulling?
No all 3 are
@@jacobpfeifertrains1998 Thanks
Pushing…
Talk about rollin’ coal 😅😂
Poor maintenance kills railways efficiency.
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Tienen el motor mas quemado que la pipa de un indio. Un saludo desde España Europa
Smoke causes cancer huh...
New patri three line electric road make bridges two line
Can't be healthy sucking all those fumes all the time 💀
That's why the locomotive cab is air conditioned with serious air filtering.
@@Sacto1654😂😂 their is no “serious filtration”. It’s the same type of filter as your home AC. It offers no smoke filtration at all.
The smoke is not an issue to the crew because it’s behind them. Notice when the locomotive exits the tunnel, there’s no smoke around the cab. The smoke is only at the rear of the lead locomotive, and then everything behind it.
It definitely wasn’t just the CN SD70M that was smoking. The BNSF ES44AC and Dash 9-44CW were also smoking hard, so why call out CN on its own? Got a beef with Canadian railroads that aren’t as obsessed with EPAs as the US is? Tier 2 and 3 locomotives are still commonplace and legal in Canada while the US is “going to war” with companies that still operate them.
@edy21865 dude clearly the CN unit was smoking the hardest. I love smokey units btw.
This is the same location where the SP train did the same thing in 1991. ruclips.net/video/wXpTRpn_fuQ/видео.htmlsi=Dwj4ieyiu7A8P35i
CN unit - 1
EPA - 0
Hey, Greta Thornberg, let's see an electric loco do that!
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rip hobos
Lucky they dont use cabooses (cabeese?) anymore, the crew would be dead...
Locomotives produced a lot more smoke than this back when cabooses were around. And don’t forget steam locomotives as well. But the smoke at the rear of the train is not as bad as you think. The Locomotives are long out of the tunnel by the time the caboose makes it into the tunnel, and the majority of the smoke has dissipated.
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In the face of the powerful CPKC amalgamation it will be interesting to see what kind of company CN becomes.
They have the resources. 🛤️🍁
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