Tough loss. Hakeem's arsenal was on full display. How many centers can shoot a 15ft jumper off a downscreen like @:40? Or isolate their man off the dribble with a 15ft pull-up jumper like @3:50? Greatest center of all time.
@@solcreate490 drexler was a major part of their success in 95 but games 5 and 6 were elimination too against the suns. in game 5 clyde took 6 shots, missed them all and only made half of his free throws
hakeem could do it all, score, rebound, defend, steals, block shots, how many centers have ever been able to come off a screen and nail a 10 to 15 foot jumpshot consistently?
Thanks for uploading and remember watching this game when I was in college. Did you see all five Jazz players trying to stop him @5:45 with him still scoring!
I'm not bothered one bit that you consider MJ "GOAT", that's generally popular opinion and the consensus. You don't come here portraying this false image of him as someone that bullied our franchise, because Hakeem was just as much a all around matchup problem for Chicago in their few career matchups if not moreso. And we won a title with MJ in the NBA, so don't tell me these "got off lucky" beliefs about our title years.
Vernon Maxwell misses the 3 for the win. He falls down. Stockton helps him up and whispers to in his ear. "Quit on your team Vernon. Quit on your team." And.....he did.
@FuShengAlex Outside of Shaq and Robinson he played against Divac and James Donaldson lol... Jordan played against Starks,Dominique Wilkins,Gerald Wilkins, and Dan Majerle... Starks a great defender,Wilkins an all-around star,Gerald Wilkins also a great defender that called himself the Jordanstopper and got crushed,and dan majerle another great defender
@FuShengAlex Tough to say considering Hakeem averaged 33 ppg in these playoffs while Jordan averaged 33.4 in his postseason career...And his spectacular 93 playoffs while chasing a three-peat(something houston fans aren't accustom to) he averaged 35.1 ppg,6.7 rpg,6.0 apg with 2-50+ point performances,4-40+ point performances,7-30+ point performances
Btw, even Jordan said he was happy Bird was retiring, he remembers getting swept 2 years in a row. Hakeem wasn't in his prime or mature when he led Houston to the 86 finals. Wahhhhhhh Jordan wasn't mature and in his prime yet. Here's how a post injury Bird treated a prime and mature MJ: watch?v=WoGmMx8Ejrw
@FuShengAlex Always remember whatever loss you'd like to pin on MJ,every other player in history (Magic,Bird,Hakeem etc.) can match him, in fact that's the one area they all surpass him in,Jordan came up bigger alot more frequently than any of them... Like Magic said:there's MJ and then there's the rest of us.He swept the pistons off the court and out of contention for good,beat up on Magic's lakers in the finals and never looked back and left the game unlike any of those other guys,STILL ON TOP
@alec9tap And don't say Barkley and Drexler weren't in their prime because they were still putting up numbers comparable to Pippen's stats while being Michael's sidekick and don't forget MJ's final game as a Bull, MJ=45 pts Pip=8, Jordan proved time and time again he could win on his own, in fact that same season Jordan carried the bulls to a 26-11 start without Pip in the lineup
The Spurs had 2 HOFers in DRob and Rodman. Both were DPOY winners. If the Spurs were so bad. Jordan wouldn't have agreed to play with one of their players. At least people remember people from that team. Not some crappy Cleveland team full of guys no one remembers that MJ beat on. MJ didn't outplay any of those guys, he outplayed who he was matched up against. Hakeem outplayed Shaq, and Shaq is MUCH greater than any of those cupcakes MJ ever faced head 2 head.
@FuShengAlex I'm just saying your using a 86 celtic team with Bird,McHale,DJ,Parish against A Jordan,Oakley,Woolridge 86 Bulls team as an arguement against MJ... Jordan was a one man show early in his career unlike Hakeem,Magic etc. and he was still so overwhelming Bird called him: God disguised as MJ after he dropped 63 on them... Once MJ got the help around him there was no stopping his team and then he truly surpassed Bird and the rest of them
alec9tap....Yeah whatever MJ in '93 closed the Knicks going 8 for 24 from the floor. Pippen stepped up and offset his garbage shooting that series (40%).. He struggled from the floor throughout that series. You couldn't beat anyone elite out West shooting 40% for a series. Meanwhile Hakeem lost that year putting up a monster 23pt.17rb. 7 blk performance in Game 7 vs. Seattle. Thank goodness Houston didn't suffer from those subpar performances from Hakeem during their title years.
@FuShengAlex And Mike might have not guarded Nique most of the time in that series but they were the leaders of that team and already had a great rivalry leading up to that series and MJ outplayed him, like he always outplayed everyone, whether it be Karl Malone,Nique,Barkley,Ewing etc. Jordan was always the best man on the court
alec9tap....Starks came up short in nearly every big playoff moment in his career even when he didn't play against MJ. Reggie abused him 3 years in a row and he choked in Game 7 vs. Houston. So sorry if I don't think Jordan outplaying him is any big deal. Certainly no comparison to facing Shaq. As for the Cavs, they suck too bad for you to hear this. No one remotely close to being a HOFer and even when they weren't losing to MJ they still weren't anything special. That's who MJ "upset".
Sorry to ruffle your feathers Jocker....but the owner of this video hailed this the GOAT individual playoff performance to win a title as well...are you implying he's stupid too?
@FuShengAlex Are you saying that Jordan's entire team was inferior to Olajuwon himself? Jordan would more than make up for Hakeem's presence on the court. If you're saying that Jordan's threepeat teams were inferior to Olajuwon's Championship teams, then that's a little more debatable. Though I would argue that Jordan's second threepeat team would be quite capable of beating Olajuwon's Championship teams.
No individually as players. No playoff run from any player.......Jordan included in any given year from start to finish was as dominant as Hakeem in the 95 playoffs.
@FuShengAlex No i believe he lost fair and square to the Magic, but it's the way you like to hang on to that series like it's the be all end all of MJ's career
Jordan had HOFers George Gervin and Artis Glimore during his time in Chicago, how come they didn't win titles according to your simplistic logic? Jordan never proved "time and time again he could win on his own". Show me one title he won without HOFers or All-stars in the playoffs. That sort of high praise is reserved for Hakeem in 94 and Barry in '75. Jordan never reached that level of playoff greatness.
@FuShengAlex First off the Knicks beat up on the Pacers as much as Indiana did them,Second the Rockets just barely squeaked by the Knicks in a hard-fought competitive series... Hakeem's accomplishment in back-to-back-series was amazing doing what he did to Shaq and Robinson but you act as if no one ever had an entire postseason run anywhere close to Hakeem, when in fact Jordan had a better statistical one in 1993 and had tougher matchups leading up to the Conference finals
I disagree i believe 1993-94 w/ MJ on the Bulls we would have won the title and if MJ hadn't retired in the first place the team probably wouldn't have been in a transition phase(Horace Grant probably wouldn't have left etc) and MJ would have not been rusty so i'd give them a shot at the 94-95 title as well...But i'd say 7 in 8 years for sure, 94-95 is a stretch because of the transition on the team but those are all what ifs so don't get upset, the rockets still won fair and square
Rather than admit your hero came up short in the playoffs, you'd rather pretend he wasn't even in the NBA. I thought you'd at least be one of those crybaby excuse makers and say he was rusty. Talk about a real worshipper if I ever saw one.
alec9tap,,,,,given that Hakeem led Houston to the series win, I don't think he was too bothered by that Stockton play. Choked Yeah whatever. Hakeem lost to the Celts in '86. They beat the defending champion Lakers to get there. MJ had ZERO career playoff wins vs. the Celtics, guess that's why he said he was happy to see Bird retire. And MJ did nothing in the big picture in the 80s compared to Hakeem in '86 he didn't topple anyone relevant. Unless you consider the "cavs" as great.
alec9tap.....This is a Olajuwon thread,I'll talk about the greatness of Hakeem if I like. You're the one that needs to calm down your Jordan fetish. He isn't even a part of this video. According to this guy: /watch?v=G8bIDEtpOMs. "the greatest" was actually retired and not "on vacation" 4 years before Hakeem brought 2 titles to Houston. Jordan choked in the '95 playoffs vs. Orlando, so it surely couldn't be he that was on vacation during the Rockets title runs.
alec9tap, SA had a NBA MVP/DPOY which is more than anybody on those Knicks/Cavs teams achieved. DRob missed the '97 season. The Knicks were a dirty untalented team overall that had to resort to thuggery to inflate their records. No wonder the NBA cracked down on that style of play. If S.A. played in such a manner they'd have even been better. The Cavs flat out were nobodies. Nobody remembers anyone from those teams. They only get credit just because MJ beat them.
@FuShengAlex All that being said I'll agree with you and say this is the greatest playoff run by a single player, just i think you need to calm your enthusiasm for Hakeem down a bit... He's not the greatest player ever, and he won two titles when the greatest was on vacation
alec tapia DREAM is the G.O.A.T. Please don’t blame DREAM for Nick Anderson ripping Jordan with the game on the line in the ECF.....in fact, that is precisely the time that he actually went on vacation.lol. Truth is...Jordan lost to another Great Center in that series....Shaquille O’Neal. When DREAM saw Shaquille, he got the Brooms Out, dust panned him, then tossed the Glad bag. If he couldn’t get passed Shaquille and Penny, you better thank the leprechaun and the lucky stars he didn’t see DREAM that year.
@FuShengAlex Yes he was, one man can only do so much... Hakeem was on a bunch of mediocre teams and a team that missed the postseason in 91-92, when MJ was winning his 2nd ring haha and MJ never missed the postseason as a bull, something Hakeem can't say
@FuShengAlex Everything you've showed me has been a lie or half-truth skewed and edited to your liking so that you can prove your point... That's not schooling,that's historical revisiionism
@FuShengAlex There you go, everything you said there made sense, now your on to something... But the arguments i've had with you and you tend to forget was 1. Who would win Bulls/Rockets in the finals? and 2. Greatest postseason by a single player? You always seem to get lost when we argue cuz your too busy minimizing everything MJ did
@FuShengAlex Yeah and it's an Olajuwon thread yet they lost the game, so i consider this a Stockton/Jazz highlight reel, this is why i came to this video
@FuShengAlex Now your proving my point because everything about MJ's career you take as is without considering any variables, but with Hakeem you have excuses up the wahzoo... I've never been one to think Hakeem underachieved with Pip,Barkley,or Drexler cuz i thought they were all past their prime but because your such a simplistic dude i thought i'd use it and come to think of it MJ,Pip,and Rodman were around the same ages as Hakeem,Drexler,Barkley and yet we were winning championships
You're a liar. Magic said his Showtime Lakers would beat the Bulls, he said Kareem would be the difference. How would MJ beat Isiah? You doofus, some of his Bulls teams had Isiahs teamates. Take them away and MJ, well he got his tail whupped 3 years in a row by Isiah, so no he's not cakewalking past them. Hakeem irrelevant? MJ during his title years complained about Hakeem after stomping his Bulls team around. : watch?v=y-FbhBM9uvU MJ's words: "We have no answer for that big guy". LOL
alec9tap.first off Pippen was matched up with Nique not MJ. As for the rest of those cupcakes, Majerle and Starks got outplayed by nutcase MadMax h2h in the playoffs as well. Shaq who Hakeem outplayed in the NBA Finals. has more achievements on his left pinky finger alone than all those cupcake matchups Jordan dominated in '93, combined. Hakeem and Reggie also beat up on those so-called tough Knick teams MJ supposedly "overcame". The Cavs? A loser team, nobody memorable on those teams.
Nah not tough for me at all, while sweeping a NBA Finals (Something Bulls fans are not accustomed to) Hakeem destroyed a NBA MVP and outplayed a NBA leading scorer h2h in consecutive rounds. Jordan was matched up with weaklings in '93 h2h. Not to mention his gambling addiction, guess that's why he ran scared from the NBA. I agree with the video poster: "Hakeem in the '95 playoffs, the GOAT individual playoff title performance.
mj got his ass whupped 3 years straight to do what Hakeem did in his first try in '86. He's just lucky he didn't have to face prime Larry Bird in his first Finals or else it'd have been another loss as always. Sampson was a career loser without Hakeem despite his talents. He couldn't lead a team to 55 wins like Pippen did w/o MJ. Russell has almost twice the rings MJ has, I guess he's twice as good as MJ. MJ spent first 3 years as a loser and below .500 so no he didn't "every season". :)
@FuShengAlex And after Olajuwon's fluky 85-86 nba finals berth his team wallowed in mediocrity for the remainder of the decade and into the mid-90's so at least when MJ got a taste of postseason success he didn't take steps backwards
@FuShengAlex Hakeem choked every season but two in his career and btw Starks outplayed Vernon Maxwell every game that series but Game 7, so get it right
@FuShengAlex Wow keep clinging to a few regular season victories when they used to play twice a season,Kenny Smith would tell you your foolish for putting so much stock into that,And your man Kenny Smith played with MJ and Hakeem and infatically states that MJ's by far the greatest who's ever played
@FuShengAlex Jordan at any point in his career with a great team around him would own Bird and his celtics and Larry knew that,Magic knew that and Isiah knew... And Hakeem was hardly even relevant
@FuShengAlex And wow did Sampson never avg 20 and 10 while in HOU as he complimented Hakeem early on,Otis thorpe not help him crash the boards and one season have 6 rocket players in double-digit ppg... If you can make Woolridge and Oakley viable excuses to why Jordan's the tmac of the nba then you've opened the floodgates because Hakeem had plenty of oakley type players on his team and squat with them,the year after they lost in the finals Sampson plays only 43 gms and the rockets plummet,42-40
If you're finishing below .500 that means you're more of a loser than a winner. Is that "math" hard for you to comprehend Jocker? Getting 50 wins is no big deal (it took 4 years). Hakeem had 3 50 win seasons with entirely role players, and one title. I'll keep enjoying laughing at you.
"Jordan was a one man show". Nah. Woorlridge averaged 22+ppg with MJ and Oakley led the NBA in rebounding, I wouldn't consider that a "1 man show"....Hakeem never had a teamate score or rebound that well in any season of his career. Jordan had all that and his team still sucked. Hakeem missed the playoffs with a winning record. MJ made the playoffs with losing records twice so your math doesn't add up. Jordan without HOFer Pippen = the Tmac of the NBA a stat padding ballhogging loser
alec9tap....stomping on a defending champion 4-1 on the road is no fluke. It took MJ 3 straight years of losing to achieve that, and he needed to have homecourt advantage. Jordan was MORE mediocre than Hakeem during those years by your laughable logic given he led the Bulls twice to losing records. Nice of you to put your foot in your mouth. He joined Chicago and they were still losers. Thankfully future HOFer Pippen came along, because Jordan wasn't much of a winner without him.
You know your ignorance really baffles me,I am no longer going to waste my time talking to a man who sits by his computer all day thinking how can i revise nba history today and make Jordan look worse than he actually is..I'm sure alot of your life has gone to waste because of all the stress and time that you put into trying to edit history in your favor,Instead of sticking to the facts and being objective,you choose to ignore,overlook,disregard any facts that don't fit your perception
Wahhhh boo hoo I hate MJ says you. You come on the page of Hakeem putting up 45 badmouthing what he's doing and bragging about an unrelated MJ. You deserve to get laughed at Then you say using the word Jordan and choke should be punishable by death? Yeah ok, I guess you're the real one with blinders for Jordan. Go complain to the maker of this video if you feel this way: watch? v=OFs16GWXT_w Its titled: "Michael Jordan CHOKES in the playoffs".
You've posted the same garbage that's been refuted on my comments page by you Jordan Jockers, you've posted ZERO that I haven't heard b4, I guess you consider that schooling. You claimed MJ was on "vacation" during Hakeem's title years. I had to remind you about Orl. You brag how he ousted Cleveland, I showed you what a mediocre team they really were. You boast of him torching Starks/Marleje, I show proof of those guys coming up short vs. other SG's in the playoffs.
alec9tap, yeah I showed you Jordan was a loser til HOFer Pippen arrived. That's a lie I guess. I showed you when MJ had to play as the only star like Hakeem for the bulk of his prime, he had the Bulls headed nowhere fast. Maybe you should leave, go somewhere else and cool off, but I think a troll like you'll be back.. Telling someone they should die for belittling MJ? LOL. Kenny Smith's opinion means nothing, MJ's words: "There's no such thing as a GOAT in basketball". Chew on that.
Tough loss. Hakeem's arsenal was on full display. How many centers can shoot a 15ft jumper off a downscreen like @:40? Or isolate their man off the dribble with a 15ft pull-up jumper like @3:50? Greatest center of all time.
Facing Step Back Jumper at 5:04 is just RIDICULOUS. HE WOULD OWN THE NBA IF he played to day. No NBA big would be close. Amazing.
you knew hakeem eyes lite up when he saw he was matched up with a slow footed Felton spencer
in 1995 Spencer didn't play due to Achilles injury, Antoine Carr and James Donaldson played center for the Jazz... but were equally slow footed
@@dewygreen4646 good inside info👍🏽
Hakeem is the closest to having won the NBA championship all by himself. =)
jan279 Not in 95. Drexler was a huge part of that run, and actually had better elimination games, such as game 7 @ PHX.
Drexler actually was at the top with Shaq that season in playoff ws.
@@solcreate490 drexler was a major part of their success in 95 but games 5 and 6 were elimination too against the suns. in game 5 clyde took 6 shots, missed them all and only made half of his free throws
Love that move at 3:54.
hakeem could do it all, score, rebound, defend, steals, block shots, how many centers have ever been able to come off a screen and nail a 10 to 15 foot jumpshot consistently?
Nobody. Only Hakeem.
The big Nigerian was something of a dream, something of Legendary, Mythology, Syfy level type of game.
Thanks for uploading and remember watching this game when I was in college. Did you see all five Jazz players trying to stop him @5:45 with him still scoring!
I'm not bothered one bit that you consider MJ "GOAT", that's generally popular opinion and the consensus. You don't come here portraying this false image of him as someone that bullied our franchise, because Hakeem was just as much a all around matchup problem for Chicago in their few career matchups if not moreso.
And we won a title with MJ in the NBA, so don't tell me these "got off lucky" beliefs about our title years.
Hakeem the second most complete player in nba history, and you could make a argument hes first
Second ?
I love that move at 6:14.
Vernon Maxwell misses the 3 for the win. He falls down. Stockton helps him up and whispers to in his ear. "Quit on your team Vernon. Quit on your team." And.....he did.
The Rockets would've lost this series if he played beyond this game him and Drexler weren't a good fit together on the team.
ridiculous pass by Stockton at 3:07
Olajuwon can shoot from the outside as well.
I think that would be the last game Maxwell played in. Not that he played much in it.
And Jordan's not bothered by a 1995 series considering he has 6 rings lol, 3x more than Hakeem,1 more than Magic, and 3 more than Bird... The GOAT
And 1 less than Robert Horry!
Maxwell on the latest pod states he tried to miss that last shot bc he was ticked. But sure look liked a legit attempt
The nba on nbc the best era in basketball
@FuShengAlex Outside of Shaq and Robinson he played against Divac and James Donaldson lol... Jordan played against Starks,Dominique Wilkins,Gerald Wilkins, and Dan Majerle... Starks a great defender,Wilkins an all-around star,Gerald Wilkins also a great defender that called himself the Jordanstopper and got crushed,and dan majerle another great defender
He also speaks 5 languages. lol
@FuShengAlex Not really, Bird's lucky he didn't face a prime MJ and mature Chicago team
Olajuwon will fuck up on the post with kindness and gracefulness
@FuShengAlex Tough to say considering Hakeem averaged 33 ppg in these playoffs while Jordan averaged 33.4 in his postseason career...And his spectacular 93 playoffs while chasing a three-peat(something houston fans aren't accustom to) he averaged 35.1 ppg,6.7 rpg,6.0 apg with 2-50+ point performances,4-40+ point performances,7-30+ point performances
The stuff of legends.
The last game of vernon maxwell career with the rockets.
Btw, even Jordan said he was happy Bird was retiring, he remembers getting swept 2 years in a row. Hakeem wasn't in his prime or mature when he led Houston to the 86 finals. Wahhhhhhh Jordan wasn't mature and in his prime yet. Here's how a post injury Bird treated a prime and mature MJ: watch?v=WoGmMx8Ejrw
@FuShengAlex Always remember whatever loss you'd like to pin on MJ,every other player in history (Magic,Bird,Hakeem etc.) can match him, in fact that's the one area they all surpass him in,Jordan came up bigger alot more frequently than any of them... Like Magic said:there's MJ and then there's the rest of us.He swept the pistons off the court and out of contention for good,beat up on Magic's lakers in the finals and never looked back and left the game unlike any of those other guys,STILL ON TOP
@alec9tap And don't say Barkley and Drexler weren't in their prime because they were still putting up numbers comparable to Pippen's stats while being Michael's sidekick and don't forget MJ's final game as a Bull, MJ=45 pts Pip=8, Jordan proved time and time again he could win on his own, in fact that same season Jordan carried the bulls to a 26-11 start without Pip in the lineup
The Spurs had 2 HOFers in DRob and Rodman. Both were DPOY winners. If the Spurs were so bad. Jordan wouldn't have agreed to play with one of their players. At least people remember people from that team. Not some crappy Cleveland team full of guys no one remembers that MJ beat on.
MJ didn't outplay any of those guys, he outplayed who he was matched up against. Hakeem outplayed Shaq, and Shaq is MUCH greater than any of those cupcakes MJ ever faced head 2 head.
@FuShengAlex I did not ask who was on the team, i asked what did they accomplish in the 90's? Stay on task man
Mehmet Okur, The MVP.
@FuShengAlex I'm just saying your using a 86 celtic team with Bird,McHale,DJ,Parish against A Jordan,Oakley,Woolridge 86 Bulls team as an arguement against MJ... Jordan was a one man show early in his career unlike Hakeem,Magic etc. and he was still so overwhelming Bird called him: God disguised as MJ after he dropped 63 on them... Once MJ got the help around him there was no stopping his team and then he truly surpassed Bird and the rest of them
Robert Horry was so athletic o.O
He did that move so fast at 5:00 they thought he traveled but he didn't lol
alec9tap....Yeah whatever MJ in '93 closed the Knicks going 8 for 24 from the floor. Pippen stepped up and offset his garbage shooting that series (40%).. He struggled from the floor throughout that series. You couldn't beat anyone elite out West shooting 40% for a series. Meanwhile Hakeem lost that year putting up a monster 23pt.17rb. 7 blk performance in Game 7 vs. Seattle.
Thank goodness Houston didn't suffer from those subpar performances from Hakeem during their title years.
@FuShengAlex And Mike might have not guarded Nique most of the time in that series but they were the leaders of that team and already had a great rivalry leading up to that series and MJ outplayed him, like he always outplayed everyone, whether it be Karl Malone,Nique,Barkley,Ewing etc. Jordan was always the best man on the court
alec9tap....Starks came up short in nearly every big playoff moment in his career even when he didn't play against MJ. Reggie abused him 3 years in a row and he choked in Game 7 vs. Houston. So sorry if I don't think Jordan outplaying him is any big deal. Certainly no comparison to facing Shaq. As for the Cavs, they suck too bad for you to hear this. No one remotely close to being a HOFer and even when they weren't losing to MJ they still weren't anything special. That's who MJ "upset".
Sorry to ruffle your feathers Jocker....but the owner of this video hailed this the GOAT individual playoff performance to win a title as well...are you implying he's stupid too?
Stockton!
@FuShengAlex Are you saying that Jordan's entire team was inferior to Olajuwon himself? Jordan would more than make up for Hakeem's presence on the court. If you're saying that Jordan's threepeat teams were inferior to Olajuwon's Championship teams, then that's a little more debatable. Though I would argue that Jordan's second threepeat team would be quite capable of beating Olajuwon's Championship teams.
No individually as players. No playoff run from any player.......Jordan included in any given year from start to finish was as dominant as Hakeem in the 95 playoffs.
@FuShengAlex No i believe he lost fair and square to the Magic, but it's the way you like to hang on to that series like it's the be all end all of MJ's career
Prime Horry!!!
Jordan had HOFers George Gervin and Artis Glimore during his time in Chicago, how come they didn't win titles according to your simplistic logic? Jordan never proved "time and time again he could win on his own". Show me one title he won without HOFers or All-stars in the playoffs. That sort of high praise is reserved for Hakeem in 94 and Barry in '75. Jordan never reached that level of playoff greatness.
@FuShengAlex First off the Knicks beat up on the Pacers as much as Indiana did them,Second the Rockets just barely squeaked by the Knicks in a hard-fought competitive series... Hakeem's accomplishment in back-to-back-series was amazing doing what he did to Shaq and Robinson but you act as if no one ever had an entire postseason run anywhere close to Hakeem, when in fact Jordan had a better statistical one in 1993 and had tougher matchups leading up to the Conference finals
@FuShengAlex And what did the Spurs ever win in the 90's? and the Magic? The Knicks were better than both those teams in the 90's
I disagree i believe 1993-94 w/ MJ on the Bulls we would have won the title and if MJ hadn't retired in the first place the team probably wouldn't have been in a transition phase(Horace Grant probably wouldn't have left etc) and MJ would have not been rusty so i'd give them a shot at the 94-95 title as well...But i'd say 7 in 8 years for sure, 94-95 is a stretch because of the transition on the team but those are all what ifs so don't get upset, the rockets still won fair and square
Rather than admit your hero came up short in the playoffs, you'd rather pretend he wasn't even in the NBA. I thought you'd at least be one of those crybaby excuse makers and say he was rusty.
Talk about a real worshipper if I ever saw one.
alec9tap,,,,,given that Hakeem led Houston to the series win, I don't think he was too bothered by that Stockton play.
Choked Yeah whatever. Hakeem lost to the Celts in '86. They beat the defending champion Lakers to get there. MJ had ZERO career playoff wins vs. the Celtics, guess that's why he said he was happy to see Bird retire. And MJ did nothing in the big picture in the 80s compared to Hakeem in '86 he didn't topple anyone relevant. Unless you consider the "cavs" as great.
alec9tap.....This is a Olajuwon thread,I'll talk about the greatness of Hakeem if I like. You're the one that needs to calm down your Jordan fetish. He isn't even a part of this video.
According to this guy: /watch?v=G8bIDEtpOMs. "the greatest" was actually retired and not "on vacation" 4 years before Hakeem brought 2 titles to Houston. Jordan choked in the '95 playoffs vs. Orlando, so it surely couldn't be he that was on vacation during the Rockets title runs.
@FuShengAlex And the Knicks and Cavs were better defensive teams then the Spurs and the Magic were in those days
alec9tap, SA had a NBA MVP/DPOY which is more than anybody on those Knicks/Cavs teams achieved. DRob missed the '97 season. The Knicks were a dirty untalented team overall that had to resort to thuggery to inflate their records. No wonder the NBA cracked down on that style of play. If S.A. played in such a manner they'd have even been better. The Cavs flat out were nobodies. Nobody remembers anyone from those teams. They only get credit just because MJ beat them.
@FuShengAlex All that being said I'll agree with you and say this is the greatest playoff run by a single player, just i think you need to calm your enthusiasm for Hakeem down a bit... He's not the greatest player ever, and he won two titles when the greatest was on vacation
alec tapia DREAM is the G.O.A.T.
Please don’t blame DREAM for Nick Anderson ripping Jordan with the game on the line in the ECF.....in fact, that is precisely the time that he actually went on vacation.lol. Truth is...Jordan lost to another Great Center in that series....Shaquille O’Neal. When DREAM saw Shaquille, he got the Brooms Out, dust panned him, then tossed the Glad bag. If he couldn’t get passed Shaquille and Penny, you better thank the leprechaun and the lucky stars he didn’t see DREAM that year.
@FuShengAlex I'm going to start calling you Skip Bayless
@FuShengAlex Yes he was, one man can only do so much... Hakeem was on a bunch of mediocre teams and a team that missed the postseason in 91-92, when MJ was winning his 2nd ring haha and MJ never missed the postseason as a bull, something Hakeem can't say
@FuShengAlex Everything you've showed me has been a lie or half-truth skewed and edited to your liking so that you can prove your point... That's not schooling,that's historical revisiionism
@FuShengAlex There you go, everything you said there made sense, now your on to something... But the arguments i've had with you and you tend to forget was 1. Who would win Bulls/Rockets in the finals? and 2. Greatest postseason by a single player? You always seem to get lost when we argue cuz your too busy minimizing everything MJ did
@FuShengAlex Yeah and it's an Olajuwon thread yet they lost the game, so i consider this a Stockton/Jazz highlight reel, this is why i came to this video
@FuShengAlex Now your proving my point because everything about MJ's career you take as is without considering any variables, but with Hakeem you have excuses up the wahzoo... I've never been one to think Hakeem underachieved with Pip,Barkley,or Drexler cuz i thought they were all past their prime but because your such a simplistic dude i thought i'd use it and come to think of it MJ,Pip,and Rodman were around the same ages as Hakeem,Drexler,Barkley and yet we were winning championships
You're a liar. Magic said his Showtime Lakers would beat the Bulls, he said Kareem would be the difference. How would MJ beat Isiah? You doofus, some of his Bulls teams had Isiahs teamates. Take them away and MJ, well he got his tail whupped 3 years in a row by Isiah, so no he's not cakewalking past them.
Hakeem irrelevant? MJ during his title years complained about Hakeem after stomping his Bulls team around. : watch?v=y-FbhBM9uvU MJ's words: "We have no answer for that big guy". LOL
Best center of the 90s.
Best center and player to ever live
No..all time
alec9tap.first off Pippen was matched up with Nique not MJ. As for the rest of those cupcakes, Majerle and Starks got outplayed by nutcase MadMax h2h in the playoffs as well. Shaq who Hakeem outplayed in the NBA Finals. has more achievements on his left pinky finger alone than all those cupcake matchups Jordan dominated in '93, combined. Hakeem and Reggie also beat up on those so-called tough Knick teams MJ supposedly "overcame". The Cavs? A loser team, nobody memorable on those teams.
Nah not tough for me at all, while sweeping a NBA Finals (Something Bulls fans are not accustomed to) Hakeem destroyed a NBA MVP and outplayed a NBA leading scorer h2h in consecutive rounds. Jordan was matched up with weaklings in '93 h2h. Not to mention his gambling addiction, guess that's why he ran scared from the NBA.
I agree with the video poster: "Hakeem in the '95 playoffs, the GOAT individual playoff title performance.
mj got his ass whupped 3 years straight to do what Hakeem did in his first try in '86. He's just lucky he didn't have to face prime Larry Bird in his first Finals or else it'd have been another loss as always. Sampson was a career loser without Hakeem despite his talents. He couldn't lead a team to 55 wins like Pippen did w/o MJ.
Russell has almost twice the rings MJ has, I guess he's twice as good as MJ. MJ spent first 3 years as a loser and below .500 so no he didn't "every season". :)
@FuShengAlex And after Olajuwon's fluky 85-86 nba finals berth his team wallowed in mediocrity for the remainder of the decade and into the mid-90's so at least when MJ got a taste of postseason success he didn't take steps backwards
Hakeem had covid19 in that game
@FuShengAlex Hakeem choked every season but two in his career and btw Starks outplayed Vernon Maxwell every game that series but Game 7, so get it right
@FuShengAlex Wow keep clinging to a few regular season victories when they used to play twice a season,Kenny Smith would tell you your foolish for putting so much stock into that,And your man Kenny Smith played with MJ and Hakeem and infatically states that MJ's by far the greatest who's ever played
@FuShengAlex Jordan at any point in his career with a great team around him would own Bird and his celtics and Larry knew that,Magic knew that and Isiah knew... And Hakeem was hardly even relevant
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wow commentators were so not energetic compared to today
@FuShengAlex And wow did Sampson never avg 20 and 10 while in HOU as he complimented Hakeem early on,Otis thorpe not help him crash the boards and one season have 6 rocket players in double-digit ppg... If you can make Woolridge and Oakley viable excuses to why Jordan's the tmac of the nba then you've opened the floodgates because Hakeem had plenty of oakley type players on his team and squat with them,the year after they lost in the finals Sampson plays only 43 gms and the rockets plummet,42-40
@FuShengAlex And how do you miss the playoffs in the weak 90's? gee, idk, ask Hakeem
Love Hakeem, but 3:35 might be the worst non-called travel in NBA history. At least 5 steps before he scored.
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If you're finishing below .500 that means you're more of a loser than a winner. Is that "math" hard for you to comprehend Jocker? Getting 50 wins is no big deal (it took 4 years). Hakeem had 3 50 win seasons with entirely role players, and one title.
I'll keep enjoying laughing at you.
"Jordan was a one man show".
Nah. Woorlridge averaged 22+ppg with MJ and Oakley led the NBA in rebounding, I wouldn't consider that a "1 man show"....Hakeem never had a teamate score or rebound that well in any season of his career. Jordan had all that and his team still sucked. Hakeem missed the playoffs with a winning record. MJ made the playoffs with losing records twice so your math doesn't add up.
Jordan without HOFer Pippen = the Tmac of the NBA a stat padding ballhogging loser
alec9tap....stomping on a defending champion 4-1 on the road is no fluke. It took MJ 3 straight years of losing to achieve that, and he needed to have homecourt advantage.
Jordan was MORE mediocre than Hakeem during those years by your laughable logic given he led the Bulls twice to losing records. Nice of you to put your foot in your mouth. He joined Chicago and they were still losers. Thankfully future HOFer Pippen came along, because Jordan wasn't much of a winner without him.
You know your ignorance really baffles me,I am no longer going to waste my time talking to a man who sits by his computer all day thinking how can i revise nba history today and make Jordan look worse than he actually is..I'm sure alot of your life has gone to waste because of all the stress and time that you put into trying to edit history in your favor,Instead of sticking to the facts and being objective,you choose to ignore,overlook,disregard any facts that don't fit your perception
Wahhhh boo hoo I hate MJ says you. You come on the page of Hakeem putting up 45 badmouthing what he's doing and bragging about an unrelated MJ. You deserve to get laughed at
Then you say using the word Jordan and choke should be punishable by death? Yeah ok, I guess you're the real one with blinders for Jordan. Go complain to the maker of this video if you feel this way: watch? v=OFs16GWXT_w Its titled: "Michael Jordan CHOKES in the playoffs".
@FuShengAlex Your comments on the Knicks and Cavs shows your ignorance when it comes to the game of basketball
You've posted the same garbage that's been refuted on my comments page by you Jordan Jockers, you've posted ZERO that I haven't heard b4, I guess you consider that schooling. You claimed MJ was on "vacation" during Hakeem's title years. I had to remind you about Orl. You brag how he ousted Cleveland, I showed you what a mediocre team they really were. You boast of him torching Starks/Marleje, I show proof of those guys coming up short vs. other SG's in the playoffs.
alec9tap, yeah I showed you Jordan was a loser til HOFer Pippen arrived. That's a lie I guess. I showed you when MJ had to play as the only star like Hakeem for the bulk of his prime, he had the Bulls headed nowhere fast.
Maybe you should leave, go somewhere else and cool off, but I think a troll like you'll be back.. Telling someone they should die for belittling MJ? LOL. Kenny Smith's opinion means nothing, MJ's words: "There's no such thing as a GOAT in basketball". Chew on that.