You probably haven't heard about "Margin Time" If you consult the digital help manuals of the Puyo Puyo Tetris games, Margin Time is explained as the time it takes for damage to build up to a certain level. Judging by how long SSENRED321 and Doremy were battling it out in certain games, the Margin Time has certainly run out a few times by then. That's why SSENRED321 quickly counterattacked with just a simple 1-renki.
@@CrimsonDevil_Rias If they did know, then this was definitely a worthy making fun of it, even if it doesn't mean you should instantly give up when Margin time passes over, I would certainly consider it advisable.
Something about the interaction at 7:28 is so hilarious to me *Massive 14 combo downstack* Power 2 chain to pressure *Downstack counters it all and sends 3 rocks* Thorn erases it all and still sends 7 lines
I don't know how this game works at all, but I feel like hearing "Tetris desu!" multiple times in a row should produce some squares for the bear doctor?
i like to believe that watching doremy over the past few months has IMMENSELY improved my vision for tspins setups. for example, at 33:10 there was an opportunity to place the L on top of the Z to create an STSD after the existing TSD is cleared. yet, doremy didn’t do this. why? because once you visualise the TSD cleared, the garbage hole renders the STSD useless. (hopefully this makes enough sense) it’s because of small analyses like this that could prove useful in the future if i happen to be in a similar situation. thank you doremy for the instructive video once again :)
I think it's poetic to see a PvT match like this -- neither the Tetris player or Puyo player have an overall advantage over the other. It's up to the rushdown Tetris player's sheer speed to kill the Puyo player as quickly as possible before margin time starts. Meanwhile the glass cannon Puyo player has to survive the flurry of strong Tetris attacks before being able to deal strong attacks at Tetris speeds via margin time, and eventually being able to dish out a killer chain in the end.
SSENRED proceeding to spasm the hell out of their puyos afterwards never fails to make me laugh I notice they usually tend to do something funny when they know their goose is cooked
@@goldie7255 huh? Yup it sure is! It is called like this because the character named harpy used to stack like this in the first puyo games. Just like frog stacking that was named like that because nohoho (a frog character) is the one who uses it. The frog stacking is also putting your puyos on the side but in a different way. i think that the frog stacking is what you are looking for
@@goldie7255 but some people refer to harpy stacking, as using this strategy but without thinking (placing the pieces ramdomly at the sides expecting for a chain)
It looks like if you're playing Tetris and if the opponent is playing Puyos, it feels like you have to beat them quickly, otherwise it will get to the point where even a 1-chain can be devastating to the tetris player, and you can't deal any damage to them. Example: 7:49 Which I find to be stupid when that one paltry chain is able to remove all of the garbage and send garbage to the other side.
@@tehrik0020 While that is true, the lag of the game in general, margin time, eaten inputs, and the reduced speed means veteran players don't have it nearly as easily as they did back in the first Puyo Tetris.
@@deandregreene2587 you also have to factor how much a Tetris player can screw over a Puyo at game start, Puyo has a somewhat harder time removing junk because it stacks on top of their pile, meaning that it can potentially block every chain you've prepared and force you to rebuild entirely in a narrower space just to clean garbage and resume whatever you were doing originally. (Not sure if 4-wide completely abusing Puyos is a valid argument but 4-wides are sorta considered taboo so...)
Contrast that with the clip at around 10:45. Where the Tetris player has a full screen of garbage and is still doing T-spins and Tetrises, instead of digging. The gameplan doesn't have to change at all While at 31:35, the puyo player gets completely rolled by a few garbage pieces blocking anything he could have done.
@@spencechan Makes me understand there's actually a weird dynamic with the two playstyles that isn't like Tetris at all in which Tetris is aggressive and Puyo is defensive and looking for the perfect opportunity until the script flips and it's Tetris who must play with more defensive rhythm than before in order to keep up with the Puyo player's increased pace of gameplay. It makes me sad that SEGA doesn't quite give the franchise the attention and reverence it used to have when Puyo Puyo was owned by COMPILE because this gameplay is completely unique and engaging in ways other Tetris simulators are literally incapable of replicating
I have to admit this might be my favourite video on Puyo Puyo Tetris Without Shirobrawl most long form YT content on PPT ended up lost forever, so this video is a blessing of two equally matched godlike players just going at eachother for almost every possible game in an FT10
I love Puyo vs Tetris battles, mainly when I’m playing Puyo and the opponent is playing Tetris. This is why I don’t mind getting whooped by Wumbo and other people.
Watching videos like me just reinforces the fact I will never be able to play this game at a good enough level, no matter Puyo or Tetris. Both looks so scary from a newbie with a slow reaction time
Doremy's tspin playstyle is so reckless. How he stacks for future tspins setups while building higher and opting for a single tspin just to keep the next tspin, the way he stacks up so high and still do tspins when he can clear, and how he often never uses tetris when he has the chance to do so. He even had the chance to do 4wides to clear alot of lines but instead tspins. And how he keeps ruining the combo when he can clear alot of lines just to setup tspins. Somehow he still manages. But inside me I'm shouting. This is really an intense 40 minutes one.
lol, bro is a t-spin bonobo that gotta look flashy for his impressionable fans on YT at the end of the day. this is why the puyo player came soo close. the puyo player honestly shoulda won this set because of this as well, but he also made some odd macro plays and mistakes.
What's your go-to switch controller for Tetris? I have a Smash pro controller but the d-pad is sensitive and I misdrop accidentally a lot. Thank you if you read this
I watched doremy years ago and was mesmerized but doesn't understand what's happening Now that i feel like i've gotten pretty good at tetris, i watch this and can actually understand how way above me these block placements are. It's still impossible for me
![[Puyo Puyo Tetris 2] Puzzle League VS: Doremy vs. SSENRED231 (13-12-2020, Switch, JP voices)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XYRo6l38dKg/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Puyo Puyo Tetris 2] Puzzle League VS: Doremy vs. SSENRED231 (13-12-2020, Switch, JP voices)](/img/tr.png)
Tetris: yes, I took 30 seconds to downstack into a 12 combo, that's impressive
Puyo Puyo: 1 chain
Slight disadvantage
Oh god its even worse at 7:30 😆
7:30 14 combo vs. power 2 + power 1 chains.
Only to get sucker punched a few seconds later.
You probably haven't heard about "Margin Time"
If you consult the digital help manuals of the Puyo Puyo Tetris games, Margin Time is explained as the time it takes for damage to build up to a certain level. Judging by how long SSENRED321 and Doremy were battling it out in certain games, the Margin Time has certainly run out a few times by then. That's why SSENRED321 quickly counterattacked with just a simple 1-renki.
@@CrimsonDevil_Rias
If they did know, then this was definitely a worthy making fun of it, even if it doesn't mean you should instantly give up when Margin time passes over, I would certainly consider it advisable.
40 min of two ghosts screaming tetris or something and a bear confessing to you in different languages
RED WISP CANNON !
Blue wisp cannon
Vs
Je t’aime !
XD
The ghosts names are Yu and Rei btw
It's a squirrel bear.
alternate title: 40 minutes of dead kids fighting a squirrel-bear meth cook /j
Alt title: Some bear tries to study two ghosts for 40 minutes
Hey it's Miss Harpy, hi Miss Garpy!
@@jestfullgremblim8002 hello!
Some bear tries to *withstand the acoustic pollution one of the two ghosts is constantly perpetrating
"Bear loves ghosts"
@@tehrik0020 smort
Something about the interaction at 7:28 is so hilarious to me
*Massive 14 combo downstack*
Power 2 chain to pressure
*Downstack counters it all and sends 3 rocks*
Thorn erases it all and still sends 7 lines
Margin time is a wild thing.
@@skylar9046 true
@@skylar9046 Definitely
Mfw those chain deal like no damage to ssren
what is this language
22:23 I felt the pain in that misdrop.
BUT THEN 22:57 o.o
Could’ve been an all clear 😔
@@thegenerate3730 and it was 23:01
I watched only the puyo side and thought "well at least the combo went off"
Then I saw Tetris
@@ahiijnyyeah
yes i will watch the funny door meme man play tetris for 40 minutes
I'm sure it's good matches, I just can't stand 40 minutes of loud ghost children 💀
@@BluecoreG somehow worse than Jay and Elle for earrape
@@BluecoreG i like yu and rei tho :(
I love that I can re-watch this entire video by looking at the puyo side and be just as entertained as the first time I watched it.
They make this look like an actual fighting game rather than a puzzle game. Absolutely thrilling to watch.
I don't know how this game works at all, but I feel like hearing "Tetris desu!" multiple times in a row should produce some squares for the bear doctor?
Not if these Tetris-es are the result of garbage removal
@@tehrik0020 Ohhhhhhh thanks!
This is the most seemingly unintentionally funny comment I've ever read.
i like to believe that watching doremy over the past few months has IMMENSELY improved my vision for tspins setups. for example, at 33:10 there was an opportunity to place the L on top of the Z to create an STSD after the existing TSD is cleared. yet, doremy didn’t do this. why? because once you visualise the TSD cleared, the garbage hole renders the STSD useless. (hopefully this makes enough sense) it’s because of small analyses like this that could prove useful in the future if i happen to be in a similar situation.
thank you doremy for the instructive video once again :)
20:54 SSENYELLOW231
Ohhhhhh baby 40 minutes of godlike gameplay on both sides, I'm ready
I think it's poetic to see a PvT match like this -- neither the Tetris player or Puyo player have an overall advantage over the other. It's up to the rushdown Tetris player's sheer speed to kill the Puyo player as quickly as possible before margin time starts. Meanwhile the glass cannon Puyo player has to survive the flurry of strong Tetris attacks before being able to deal strong attacks at Tetris speeds via margin time, and eventually being able to dish out a killer chain in the end.
Me: I bet playing against Doremy would be really fun
Doremy: *sets up 3 T-spins in 5 seconds*
Me: I retract my statement. I am filled with fear
37:59 T-spin taunting
29:49 *looks at the double tetris into PC*
me: *"WHAT KIND OF PLACE IS THIS?!"*
Whatever place this is, it sure as hell ain't a merciful one.
A t spin followed a second before and a second after that unbelievable combo... This guy is not human
“THERE’S NO WATER IN HERE!”
Yeah
SSENRED proceeding to spasm the hell out of their puyos afterwards never fails to make me laugh
I notice they usually tend to do something funny when they know their goose is cooked
this is insane, i hope to be at this level of skill some day, in both matchups:')
I'm decent at puyo vs puyo, but i can't keep it together when watching people like this guy actually winning agains god-like tetris
I gotta learn harpy stacking like them
@@jestfullgremblim8002 its that what the stacking on the side strategy in puyo is called?
@@goldie7255 huh? Yup it sure is! It is called like this because the character named harpy used to stack like this in the first puyo games. Just like frog stacking that was named like that because nohoho (a frog character) is the one who uses it. The frog stacking is also putting your puyos on the side but in a different way. i think that the frog stacking is what you are looking for
@@goldie7255 but some people refer to harpy stacking, as using this strategy but without thinking (placing the pieces ramdomly at the sides expecting for a chain)
Everyone commenting on the Tetris player. Fair enough, but watching the puyo player fight back from some ridiculous positions was incredible.
22:22 as depression sets in...
There are no mistakes in Tetris, only unexpected tspin setups
Tetris player: gets a 9-combo
Puyo puyo: clears 2 groups of 4 and negates any penalty
Take a shot whenever you hear "Rest in Peace"
*dead noices*
I advise not actually doing that, lest you go "Rest In Peace" yourself.
It looks like if you're playing Tetris and if the opponent is playing Puyos, it feels like you have to beat them quickly, otherwise it will get to the point where even a 1-chain can be devastating to the tetris player, and you can't deal any damage to them.
Example: 7:49 Which I find to be stupid when that one paltry chain is able to remove all of the garbage and send garbage to the other side.
Tetris players have a much easier time with setups so it's somewhat normal a Puyo player's attacks hurt more.
@@tehrik0020 While that is true, the lag of the game in general, margin time, eaten inputs, and the reduced speed means veteran players don't have it nearly as easily as they did back in the first Puyo Tetris.
@@deandregreene2587 you also have to factor how much a Tetris player can screw over a Puyo at game start, Puyo has a somewhat harder time removing junk because it stacks on top of their pile, meaning that it can potentially block every chain you've prepared and force you to rebuild entirely in a narrower space just to clean garbage and resume whatever you were doing originally. (Not sure if 4-wide completely abusing Puyos is a valid argument but 4-wides are sorta considered taboo so...)
Contrast that with the clip at around 10:45. Where the Tetris player has a full screen of garbage and is still doing T-spins and Tetrises, instead of digging. The gameplan doesn't have to change at all
While at 31:35, the puyo player gets completely rolled by a few garbage pieces blocking anything he could have done.
@@spencechan
Makes me understand there's actually a weird dynamic with the two playstyles that isn't like Tetris at all in which Tetris is aggressive and Puyo is defensive and looking for the perfect opportunity until the script flips and it's Tetris who must play with more defensive rhythm than before in order to keep up with the Puyo player's increased pace of gameplay.
It makes me sad that SEGA doesn't quite give the franchise the attention and reverence it used to have when Puyo Puyo was owned by COMPILE because this gameplay is completely unique and engaging in ways other Tetris simulators are literally incapable of replicating
I can't fathom how I watched this for so long. It's like an addiction for the eyes
37:30 ok now this, this is just divine.
Bear calmly saying "アイ ラ ビュー" over and over lol
he luvs you :3
damn finding a puyo player that can best any proffesional tetris player is like finding a shiny pokemon
Wow its completely balanced when playing at a high level but when ur bad at tetris like me I have no chance against puyo
The reverse is also true too. High level Tetris against mid or lower puyo is busted against puyo
It's especially felt because the bot for puyo feels like they get better much faster than the tetris bot in the adventure mode
13:38 missdrop? No. T-spin double.
Is it me, or did the pure puyo players get even scarier coming from the 1st to the 2nd game?
Tetris got nerfed coming into PPT2.
Essentially, yes.
I had no idea who was winning either of the games until they were over
😂 this was hilarious to me 🤣🤣
33:17 ok that was pretty impressive
29:50 geez
The best Tetris vs Puyo match I've seen ever
usually in Tetris favor, this was a fun watch
This is honestly a very great watch
I agree
7:46 OH MY GOD AHAHA
22:23 pain.
I have to admit this might be my favourite video on Puyo Puyo Tetris
Without Shirobrawl most long form YT content on PPT ended up lost forever, so this video is a blessing of two equally matched godlike players just going at eachother for almost every possible game in an FT10
A new long video from Doremy, I feel blessed
Il n'empêche, le seiyu de RIsukuma a bien révisé son français avant de dire sa réplique "Je t'aime!"
C est vrai lol
Très propre
I love Puyo vs Tetris battles, mainly when I’m playing Puyo and the opponent is playing Tetris. This is why I don’t mind getting whooped by Wumbo and other people.
10:33 that I maneuver was insane holy crap!
I felt that miss drop at 22:23
impressive high-level gameplay for both games.
22:24 That was so sad
Imagine you're watching this at work and the bluetooth disconnects ... like... WTAF ARE YOU WATCHING?!!
i just found out he's also Ekoro from osu, so he's gonna be better than me at tetris and osu as well :(
woah now doremy can go be rivals with him in osu too
@@firewall5189 I'm not even close to his level in both games lol
@@lucasxu2349 very few people are lol nw
10:41 that was insane
25:10 is it just me or does Yu have a really good beat going??
Yess
Yeah reminds me of ruclips.net/video/jN6drDuUk_I/видео.html
SSENRED231 really becoming Doremy's rival in this game haha
33:00
Just... These set ups
36:46
And this is impressive too
when you noticed that doremy is not using Ess
Me: hol up
WAIT A MINTUE
I didn't think there could be a character more obnoxiously LOUD than Ess
Boy I was wrong.
A 13 tetris combo sends a total of 57 garbage lines to your opponent. The same as a Puyo 4-combo
20:31 The use of the L and Z is brilliant here. Is there a name for this?
donation
@@bckthundr Right, it is a donation, but it feels very specific, like it's a variation on an opener or something.
10:09 Did the Teddy Bear said "Je t'aime !" ? ("I love you!" in english)
yes his spells are all i love you in different languages
Watching videos like me just reinforces the fact I will never be able to play this game at a good enough level, no matter Puyo or Tetris. Both looks so scary from a newbie with a slow reaction time
It would be good to see ssenred playing tetris
He is one of the best sprinters in the world
Doremy's tspin playstyle is so reckless. How he stacks for future tspins setups while building higher and opting for a single tspin just to keep the next tspin, the way he stacks up so high and still do tspins when he can clear, and how he often never uses tetris when he has the chance to do so. He even had the chance to do 4wides to clear alot of lines but instead tspins. And how he keeps ruining the combo when he can clear alot of lines just to setup tspins.
Somehow he still manages. But inside me I'm shouting. This is really an intense 40 minutes one.
lol, bro is a t-spin bonobo that gotta look flashy for his impressionable fans on YT at the end of the day.
this is why the puyo player came soo close. the puyo player honestly shoulda won this set because of this as well, but he also made some odd macro plays and mistakes.
22:26 the visual definition of shame
Doremy: misdrops
*Starts reevaluating life choices*
I like Yu and Rei's Japanese Voices a lot. I really want the Japanese Voices for PS4 but I doubt SEGA and The Tetris Company will add them.
You’re able to change the VO language in the settings
It is available in the PS4 release? I know it is in the PC and Switch releases. The voice switch was not in the PPT 1 release for PS4.
@@tetrismain608 I don’t have the ps4 version but if I’m not mistaken you can change the voice settings in PPT2
@@Momentum840 OK.
I would love to fight Doremy in Tetris someday :c
Same :/
Keep training and it’ll happen
You will not survive
Yass and I want to win too.
2:24 nice perfect clear. I could hear the cry of a desk somewhere
That first fight is so scary, what a comeback
Video : intense 40 mins battle
Me : ok
Also me : ... Ahh... Rip those poor competitors
Man this is the longest match I ever watch doremy, 40 minutes long? Wow. Also PC at 23:06
7:48 Ok, HOW?
0:16
i jave never played puyo before so i was surprised by the fact that there’s sonic in the roster
Heavy Rest in peace
"I love you"
"Wo Ani"
"Je t'aime"
I'm sorry but this bear is creeping me out.
0:03 hehe
Funny bear man really just spent 40 minutes confessing to ghost ladies and they were just like "tetorisudesu!"
someone explain 7:45, how did a 14 combo get overpowered by a power 2 chain?
Margin time
Probably margin time
22:23 oof
What's your go-to switch controller for Tetris? I have a Smash pro controller but the d-pad is sensitive and I misdrop accidentally a lot. Thank you if you read this
28:58 I-spin there :>
10:32 I-spin for style
good job doremy!
so in ppt2, puyo players is not in slight disadvantage anymore? neat
38:01 oh no.
40 minutes of two ghost screaming rest in peace and tetris
22:22 OOF
26:20 Mr president they’ve misdropped the second tetramino
29:50 💎
8:49 I love u~, 8:51 我爱你~
So entertaining against ssred
23:00 how that led to a PCO setup
I watched doremy years ago and was mesmerized but doesn't understand what's happening
Now that i feel like i've gotten pretty good at tetris, i watch this and can actually understand how way above me these block placements are. It's still impossible for me
7:30 you telling me the puyo player blocked all that damage with a power 2 chain?? im tiltedddd
I have to assume that SSENRED has been a long time rival for you, yeah?
At this point, they seem only able to match against each other. They must be too high of a level for anyone else.
i swear to god i think i keep hearing a line in that teddy bear one saying "i love you"
He actually says "I love you", he says it in different languages, like French with "je t'aime"
Have you and red ever met IRL?
헐 뭐야 상대 레드님이네ㄷㄷ 신기
Tell me why that tetris fourteen chain just got destroyed by a puyo one chain
What the fuck are these 4D Chess commitments I’m seeing?!
DOREMY WITH WYSI THUMBNAIL AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i love you too random creature
33:10 wow
so many floating T-spins o.o
Finally I can watch door meme and sred for 40 minutes
My daughter bought me this game for my birthday.
:D .. y i k e s
12:33 "je t’aime" 😂