This is considered one of the hardest puzzle/adventure games of its genre, and probably it's also the reason why it is so memorable, even with all the frustration: the amount of time and attention that you have to dedicate to the world and everything in it (together with the unique graphic and sound design) means that it's simply not easy to forget... for better or worse! :) The original point-and-click version was less punishing when backtracking since it was easier to zap to another location and skip travel animations (provided you didn't have to go to a different island, since each was on a different CD). On the other hand, the puzzles were even a bit harder. Most of the changes from the old to the new version have addressed certain inconsistencies in the world (e.g., in the original the village school could only be reached via submarine - which makes no sense) and some old-fashioned gameplay elements. Plus, the "fire marbles" as source of energy have a much more prominent role in the new game; they were left unexplained in the original. Thank you for sharing your playthrough! Many old-time fans have complained that the new Riven has been "dumbed down", but watching someone play it for the first time it's clear that players of the original are forgetting how much information needs to be digested and put together to figure out the puzzles. It's quite another story to play Riven if you already know the basic concepts of "eyes are symbols for colors and each island is associated to a color", "marbles on the grid need to be placed where the spinning domes are", "animal shapes connect to the Moiety rebels", etc.
@geraldgerund I'm glad to hear it is considered hard by alot of people and it's not just me being stupid 😂 Also that still blows my mind each island was it's own disk! And there's me complaining the travel took too long (it did) That's interesting the puzzle changes! What's your verdict on this remake to the original? Thanks for your thoughts throughout I hope you enjoyed 🙂 (seeing someone struggle!)
@@RhysSGaming You did great! If I'd had a Steam library of unplayed games in '97 I don't think I would have stuck with Riven without a walkthrough so long to solve it! I loved the original and I've watched many playthroughs of it, trying to recapture the feeling of discovering the world for the first time. I think that they did a remarkable job with the new Riven, making it familiar enough, and yet surprising and deeper in places to provide the best of both: nostalgia and discovery. I don't mind if the puzzles are a little "easier", I don't need everybody to suffer like I did ;) They do make more sense in this new version and that's really satisfying. Thanks again for sharing!
@geraldgerund haha yeah if the game was twice the size I may not have played it so I liked the fact it was 6ish hours! Too many games on my list to play thanks to steam I'm glad as a longtime fan they did it justice for you! You're welcome 🙂
This is considered one of the hardest puzzle/adventure games of its genre, and probably it's also the reason why it is so memorable, even with all the frustration: the amount of time and attention that you have to dedicate to the world and everything in it (together with the unique graphic and sound design) means that it's simply not easy to forget... for better or worse! :)
The original point-and-click version was less punishing when backtracking since it was easier to zap to another location and skip travel animations (provided you didn't have to go to a different island, since each was on a different CD). On the other hand, the puzzles were even a bit harder. Most of the changes from the old to the new version have addressed certain inconsistencies in the world (e.g., in the original the village school could only be reached via submarine - which makes no sense) and some old-fashioned gameplay elements. Plus, the "fire marbles" as source of energy have a much more prominent role in the new game; they were left unexplained in the original.
Thank you for sharing your playthrough! Many old-time fans have complained that the new Riven has been "dumbed down", but watching someone play it for the first time it's clear that players of the original are forgetting how much information needs to be digested and put together to figure out the puzzles. It's quite another story to play Riven if you already know the basic concepts of "eyes are symbols for colors and each island is associated to a color", "marbles on the grid need to be placed where the spinning domes are", "animal shapes connect to the Moiety rebels", etc.
@geraldgerund I'm glad to hear it is considered hard by alot of people and it's not just me being stupid 😂
Also that still blows my mind each island was it's own disk! And there's me complaining the travel took too long (it did)
That's interesting the puzzle changes! What's your verdict on this remake to the original?
Thanks for your thoughts throughout I hope you enjoyed 🙂 (seeing someone struggle!)
@@RhysSGaming You did great! If I'd had a Steam library of unplayed games in '97 I don't think I would have stuck with Riven without a walkthrough so long to solve it!
I loved the original and I've watched many playthroughs of it, trying to recapture the feeling of discovering the world for the first time. I think that they did a remarkable job with the new Riven, making it familiar enough, and yet surprising and deeper in places to provide the best of both: nostalgia and discovery. I don't mind if the puzzles are a little "easier", I don't need everybody to suffer like I did ;) They do make more sense in this new version and that's really satisfying.
Thanks again for sharing!
@geraldgerund haha yeah if the game was twice the size I may not have played it so I liked the fact it was 6ish hours! Too many games on my list to play thanks to steam
I'm glad as a longtime fan they did it justice for you!
You're welcome 🙂
Well done
@@yester30 thanks! Hope you enjoyed