Mercedes C350e PHEV Questions & Answers

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @delfico11
    @delfico11 4 года назад +10

    I can confirm. My C350e, 2015 estate, the same lovely blue color. I have 180kkm on the clock, on fully charged battery i can do 12-15km. To fully charge (from 10 to 100%) it gets 4.5kWh from the grid. When driving with no battery charge from socket it consumes about 7l/100km (40mpg)

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад

      @delfico11 thanks for your info 👍🏻

    • @covakoma1064
      @covakoma1064 2 года назад

      Did your battery lost capacity?

    • @delfico11
      @delfico11 2 года назад

      @@covakoma1064 Ofcourse yes. But I don't care, using it as usual hybrid car, not charging. Still love the car :)

  • @adriennecarroll6311
    @adriennecarroll6311 3 года назад +5

    Thank you. Considering buying one of these, and you've answered all my questions! I will also use the 3 pin home charge see how I get on.

  • @kieranh6962
    @kieranh6962 4 года назад +3

    Two really informative videos. Would love to see more of these for other cars as they give a real insight into owning the car.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the feedback. I’ll look at doing similar videos (Q&A) next year on my other cars 👍🏻

  • @Dutchnavyengineer
    @Dutchnavyengineer 2 года назад +1

    Great video, just what I need while looking for a second hand one, it answers so many questions I have! Thank you!

    • @covakoma1064
      @covakoma1064 2 года назад

      I am looking too but all of them are 4 years old from 100 000km to 160000 km. Is it pricy to replace battery and is it possible to do it yourself

  • @Ak--zs7xj
    @Ak--zs7xj 3 года назад +2

    Simple video with tons of information 👍🏽👍🏽 not like another RUclipsers

  • @izinyoka45
    @izinyoka45 3 года назад +1

    thanks for taking the time to make this video, very useful!

  • @jimboyle6974
    @jimboyle6974 4 года назад +4

    Enjoyed your video. I have this car & the electric range is dire. I couldn't even be bothered charging it now and a home charger didn't make sense. But I prob will use the 3 pin home more now. Still love the car though, despite the battery range

  • @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
    @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams 4 года назад +2

    Just to add to it. The charge mode doesn’t hurt when you are on the motorway as the needle doesn’t go up much more. Gives you the added benefit of free last miles to get you home using electric

  • @liamcinq
    @liamcinq 2 года назад +2

    I'm late to this videos party but not many real world videos on this model on YT.
    Close to 300bhp for that low road tax plus the performance is very appealing.

  • @MrSailingagain
    @MrSailingagain 3 года назад +1

    Great info and delivery. Thank you

  • @Aqueeel1
    @Aqueeel1 3 года назад +2

    Great informative video. 👌🏼👍🏼..

  • @jamesb4263
    @jamesb4263 4 года назад +3

    Nice vid thanks . If you're here and thinking of buy this car as your 1st hybrid I'd say you'll be impressed. It will probably make you cross over to full EV in the future. The driving experince in EV mode is significantly more satisfying.

  • @ChaseEverything
    @ChaseEverything 4 года назад +5

    Here is a great question, and I was going to pick up one of these second hand, but I'm put off by this... Are you as an owner, happy to pay £6000 to change the battery on this car? Or would you trade it in for something else before it eventually goes? Mercedes main dealer Parts department confirmed the Battery is £6000 or £5000 roughly with a surcharge.
    Even buying brand new, it's hard to consider the possibility of spending £6000 to replace a Hybrid battery every few years. There are videos online that show these cars that have had faults and have had batteries changed in less than 5 years hence why I ask.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +3

      That’s a great question.
      Firstly, my C350e is my main everyday car and is leased. So it’s unlike my other modern classics in that I don’t actually own the car so not a problem that I’ve had to deal with.
      The short answer is “no”, I wouldn’t pay the £6k for a full battery replacement - £6k alone would get you a nice second hand car in its own right and it’s difficult to see how second hand values of these (any type of PHEV/EV) will be affected with respect to battery replacements. I suppose you could forgo the replacement and suffer degradation in the batteries, after all it’s got a 2.0T engine but that’s sort of missing the point in buying a PHEV in the first place.
      I understand why you’ve been put off and would likely have come to the same conclusion myself. It would be great for others who own older C350e’s to comment regarding what they have done/not done.

    • @ChaseEverything
      @ChaseEverything 4 года назад +5

      @@FastandFun Definitely sir, but this is the problem, Because I also considered driving the vehicle without the Hybrid and just coping with that if the battery went until I could afford an alternative or reconditioned battery, however... A quick google search presents this information when you ask if a Hybrid car can be driven without a Hybrid Battery and the answer I got is...:
      "Most hybrid batteries have an eight-year or 100,000-mile warranty, according to Bumblebee Batteries, but some fail before that time. A hybrid vehicle cannot run without the hybrid battery, so vehicle owners must invest in new hybrid batteries periodically, which can make vehicle maintenance expensive.12 Jun 2020"
      This has pushed me back in the direction of C200 Petrol cars. I would love a C350e but if I don't want to spend £6k then I can't according to this source, even benefit from the 208bhp power engine because the Hybrid Battery may need replacing also. That's a kick in the teeth unfortunately. The degradation I could live with so long as the Vehicle is still drive-able but it seems as though when the Battery does pack up, the Combustion Engine may not work without the Hybrid Battery being in service. :(

    • @biscuittthenomad8675
      @biscuittthenomad8675 3 года назад +1

      I agree

  • @zqz1585
    @zqz1585 4 года назад +2

    You have really improved with your videos! But I think you can really work on your audio and the b roll clips at the beginning can be a little bit shorter and that’s my only complaints if I have any and your presentation is impeccable! Great video! 👍

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      zq z thanks for the feedback 👍🏻

    • @zqz1585
      @zqz1585 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun I will do what I can to help your channel 👍

  • @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
    @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams 4 года назад +3

    I have the 2015 C350e premium. I like in Northern Ireland and a full charge says 12 miles. True range is about 6miles which isn’t great. Other than that, it’s a lovely car. Consumption for me isn’t great either and I don’t drive it hard and always charge after every drive.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад

      @kiff AA that suggests that as the car ages the batteries do start to lose their range then, as the lowest distance I’d get is c. 8 miles (and I live in a hilly area)

    • @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
      @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun yep. They definitely do lose range as they age. MB Uk said it’s normal and not covered either. In case anyone is wondering.

    • @kieranh6962
      @kieranh6962 4 года назад

      @@kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
      Kiff, the battery degrading appears a real drawback as the car ages. If it keeps degrading as a car ages, one would be carrying out the extra 200kg of battery with no benefit. I wonder if the battery can be removed and converted into straight petrol?

    • @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
      @kofiAnkraAsareAttrams 4 года назад

      @@kieranh6962 I’ve been told the battery can be reconditioned. Not sure of the cost involved. I personally would not bother converting it to fully petrol. I’d rather sell it than have to deal with that.

    • @kieranh6962
      @kieranh6962 4 года назад

      @@kofiAnkraAsareAttrams
      Thanks Kiff. Reconditioning sounds like a better solution. Considering buying a 2017 one with 80k miles up. Lovely to drive but potential longer term battery issues putting me off.

  • @felsner1
    @felsner1 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this.

  • @MrZaragon62
    @MrZaragon62 4 года назад +1

    Great questions and better answers...So when the back seats are folded down how long is it from the back of the front seat to inside the tailgate. Currently I can put a full size adult bike in my skoda superb without taking a wheel off and need to know the measurement please

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      Hi Steve, I’m not sure what the distance is (you should be able to google it) but I’ve had my road bike in the back with both wheels on. No bother at all. It’s a little tight, but it does fit 👍🏻

    • @MrZaragon62
      @MrZaragon62 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun thank you
      I can see myself paying a visit to a dealer to check it, but it certainly looks like it'll fit fine.

  • @cjjames645
    @cjjames645 2 года назад +1

    Looking at buy a 16 plate c350e do I need to be concerned about the battery seeing a lot about changing it what would cost 3k upwards

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  2 года назад +1

      I wouldn’t get a very high mileage C350e as over the c.80k miles I covered in my 3 years ownership there was a definite degradation in its performance with regard to distance. Difficult to quantify as you have many factors influencing the range, from temperature, driving technique and terrain (hilly/flat). But I did see a loss in range if monitored over the long term.
      How long before the batteries would need replacing? 🤔 depend what loss of range you’d accept I suppose, but the cost would make the decision to replace the batteries very difficult I would expect.

  • @PulkVideo
    @PulkVideo 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi, perhaps a strange question... Is it possible to remove the complete hybrid batteries and still can drive it without any specific alterations?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 месяца назад

      @@PulkVideo I don’t know is the quick answer. But I’m not sure why you’d do that? Wouldn’t you just buy the cheaper 2.0 petrol? 🤷‍♂️

    • @PulkVideo
      @PulkVideo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@FastandFun can understand your question. Its because this Merc has a brand new factory build engine in it.
      But I am not so keen on hybrids, specially the weight of them. But I also got no clue how much exactly the hybrid battery weights. It is more a “ can it be done” question. Just curious.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 месяца назад

      @@PulkVideo I know the battery pack weighs around 200kg and reduces space in the boot by raising the floor a few inches. Still not sure why you’d do it as you could buy a 2.0 petrol, non hybrid of the same year that’s as factory fresh as this!

    • @PulkVideo
      @PulkVideo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@FastandFun just because it can.. ( I think)

  • @attilab.2818
    @attilab.2818 4 года назад +1

    I believe in the app you can also set the departure time for charging purpose (not just the pre-conditioning, you can switch off the pre-con and just set the departure time), this should make sure to have 100% charge by the time you’re supposed to go. Can you double check please?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      I’m not aware that you can do this. The only reason for setting a departure time is to enable pre-con ahead of leaving. The car can only charge at a given rate and takes c. 2.5 hours. Once charged it will retain its full charge until used, so not sure why you’d want to wait and only start charging 2.5 hours prior to departure.

    • @attilab.2818
      @attilab.2818 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun
      Yeah agree, it doesn’t make any sense but there is an option in the app to set a departure time without pre-conditioning. No idea what it’s purpose.

  • @junglistguy100
    @junglistguy100 2 года назад +2

    can I use electric only up to 40mph?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  2 года назад

      No you can go much higher speed. So long as you have sufficient battery charge you can go up to c.70mph

  • @criscicirello7965
    @criscicirello7965 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the videos. A question please - does the car have the pre heat or pre cool facility when plugged in, on hot or cold days?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      Yes it does, using the Mercedes Me App 👍🏻

  • @Titot182
    @Titot182 4 года назад +2

    Both this and your other video were very informative. You mentioned it was a bit of a Q car, and the spec seems to suggest this. I am aware of the measly real world fuel range, but a lot of my trips tend to only be less than 5 miles, which on a C220d is probably doing it more harm than good. My question is, what's the in-gear 30-70 acceleration like compared do a diesel? I'm considering switching up to an S205 from my S204 and was considering the hybrid. Additionally, what's the real world fuel consumption like in town and country traffic, say NSL's interspersed with 30's and 40's IF you're running in hybrid mode. If it can best the 35mpg I'm getting with a roof rack populated with 3 mountain bikes, it might be in contention.
    Also, what's the reliability been when it comes to the powertrain and charging? I've never had any issues with my S204, but I do have reservations on its complexity and knowledge at independent/specialist workshops if things go wrong.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +2

      EarlOfEasycore you would have to google the in-gear acceleration values, but in the real world, if you put it into sport+ mode, it will give you a big shove in the back and make overtaking simple.
      If most of your driving is less than 5 miles, you’ll be doing all your driving on elec only 👍🏻 on longer drives, the mpg will reduce further you go because the initial miles on electric will become a smaller percentage of the total distance. If you start with a full charge, you’re unlikely to get less than 40mpg. If you’re at high speed for long durations it may drop into the high 30’s. For reference, the worst mpg I’ve ever had has been 35mpg!
      Regarding reliability, very few problems at all. A minor issue with the charging flap but otherwise it’s been very good. Regarding the battery power, I’ve not seen any significant decay in performance over the past 2 and a half years. Others, with older cars, say that the batteries do lose their charge quicker with some stating as low as 6 miles. The worst I generally get is 8 miles. Temperature has by far the biggest effect on battery condition.
      I’ll be doing one final video on the 350e before I return the car in March, likely around the best and worst parts of owning a C350e - please keep watching 👍🏻

    • @Titot182
      @Titot182 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback... I'll be eagerly awaiting the final video. I'll see if there's one locally that I can test drive and use my butt dyno. Presumably with all that weight in the back, you're not having any issues with chassis balance and it being tail happy? I generally find that the mercs are a lot more neutral and compliant than the equivalent 3/5 series.

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад

      @@Titot182 you can feel the weight in the back and I think I mentioned in my first video that they eat rear tyres - you’ll get no more than 10k miles on average between sets of rear tyres!

    • @attilab.2818
      @attilab.2818 4 года назад +2

      Starter motor is a very common problem on these cars, I’m using the third starter now. The first was replaced in 2019 may @ 60k miles, the second also had to be replaced in 2020 October @ 80k miles...

  • @jamesowen4360
    @jamesowen4360 4 года назад +1

    I'm considering one of these to replace my golf GTi. Looking for a luxury family car that has good economy. Always wanted a Mercedes. With the relatively low miles available on EV is it worth it. ? I'm getting mid 20s to low 30s mpg in my golf and it's frustrating.
    Just want an idea if it's worth it. Some plug in Hybrids are claiming 20 30 miles plus. Which is great but 8/10 miles 🤔

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      A lot will depend on your usage. If you do lots of shorter journeys (less than 20miles) then your mpg is going to be great. If you do 100’s per week then it’s going to only be mid-high 30’s mpg.
      The other clear benefit of of PHEV is that you don’t need two cars. You have the benefit of elec only on shorter journeys with the added benefit that you can drive for 400 miles with out thinking about elec charging stations.
      Plus, you’ll win the traffic light grandprix with both elec and engine power 👍🏻

    • @jamesowen4360
      @jamesowen4360 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun yes I've just had a look at the 300e and the diesel plug in hybrid there are more options than I realised.
      Yeh the power output is very appealing thanks for the reply 👍

  • @boorek0
    @boorek0 4 года назад +2

    When you strat car does it runs firstly on petrol to warm up interior and engine, or can it be driven in EV mode straight after night for example?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      Hi, you can manually switch the vehicle into EV mode which means it will only run on batteries. If you leave it in Hybrid mode (default setting when you switch the car on) it will normally start in EV mode too, only allowing the ICE to start if you accelerate hard.

    • @boorek0
      @boorek0 4 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun thanks for quick reply. That is much better than in my Lexus hybrid, because it starts always on petrol to warm up engine and then using battery/ev mode.

    • @ismetkjerimi
      @ismetkjerimi 4 года назад

      @@boorek0 I think is better to warm upp the car in petrol mode than in eq , Lexus in that way is better because in cold temperature warming up you car with petrol saves the battery agains damage, so Mercedes starts directly in EQ mode which for me is not better option..

    • @boorek0
      @boorek0 4 года назад +1

      @@ismetkjerimi it is not better if you have only 2miles to work and it is using petrol all the time, even if hybrid.

  • @remcobosma9646
    @remcobosma9646 3 года назад +1

    Can you change the exhaust to a sport exhaust? I would make it sound much better than it does now. But its a hybride so i don’t know if it can..

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад

      I’ve never replaced the exhaust, but can’t see why you can’t fit a sports exhaust.

  • @Janzegerss
    @Janzegerss 3 года назад +1

    Do you perhaps know what the costs are to replace the batteries?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад +1

      Not exactly but was told that it’s somewhere between £5k-£6k!

    • @Janzegerss
      @Janzegerss 3 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun thank you for the quick response.. did you had any problems with the gearbox, I ve read that there are lits of problems and that models from 2015/16 had lots of issues. What are your thoughts about this :)

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад

      @@Janzegerss mine was a 2018 and I suffered no problems with my gearbox at all in 3 years and 75k miles.

  • @shireenabegum4314
    @shireenabegum4314 4 года назад +1

    Can I ask whats the reason behind the fact that after charging the battery in the cold weather we would only be able to get around 8 miles to drive on electric?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад +1

      Two main reason: Firstly, battery performance is affected by temperature, colder it becomes, less efficient batteries are. Secondly, in cold weather, you will using all your high power systems (heating, de-mist, heated seats, etc....) putting higher demand on your batteries.

    • @shireenabegum4314
      @shireenabegum4314 4 года назад +2

      @@FastandFun thank you

    • @gcr3990
      @gcr3990 3 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun hello, can you tell me plecase, how mouch does it costs the battery for the hibrid system? Thank you. You have a nice car!

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад +1

      @@gcr3990 Thanks for your comment. I’ve not looked in to it fully but several sources have indicated to replace the full battery pack at 5 year point is c. £5-6k. I hope this helps.

    • @gcr3990
      @gcr3990 3 года назад +1

      @@FastandFun thank you again. Have a nice day!

  • @stephenbiddlecombe6545
    @stephenbiddlecombe6545 3 года назад +1

    I am considering buying a 2016 used one of these cars. What do you believe the lifespan of the batteries should be?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад

      I’ve not seen any written evidence on the lifespan but several sources have told me that MB advice is 5 years. Sorry I can’t be definitive.

  • @nnaemekagodwill1804
    @nnaemekagodwill1804 3 года назад +1

    what happens when my battery is totally dead and need replacement? can i drive only on engine ?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  3 года назад +1

      My assumption is that should the battery pack fail (or retain so little charge as to be redundant) then the car would remain with the engine running only. I cannot see any reason why the car couldn’t still be driven.
      However, it would then become a 2.0 petrol C class with an extra 200kg in the boot ....... so a little pointless really.

    • @nnaemekagodwill1804
      @nnaemekagodwill1804 3 года назад +1

      Ok thank you so much sir

  • @Shanam_108
    @Shanam_108 2 года назад +1

    Hey there, is this still a good car to buy in 2022? Thank you

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  2 года назад

      Of course, but the only thing to be wary of is the potential range issue after multiple years of use with the same battery pack

  • @Steve-hm1sc
    @Steve-hm1sc 4 года назад +1

    What’s it like in the snow please?

    • @FastandFun
      @FastandFun  4 года назад

      Poor - pretty much like any RWD car though. I’ve fitted Michelin Cross-climates which are better, but generally take my 4x4 if there’s any white stuff.