Baby Lindbergh: The Crime That Shocked The Nation

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    On March 1, 1932 a crime would occur that would grip not on the state of New Jersey but the entire nation. The child of an American Hero would vanish and the outcome would create laws that are still in use to this day.
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  • @Cadaber
    @Cadaber  2 года назад +110

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    • @toobeast5485
      @toobeast5485 2 года назад +6

      thank you for making this video; I’m playing a solo in a song remembering the Lindbergh Baby. I watched an old documentary on it to get the story but when I see Master Cadabar came through, I had to watch 🙏 once again a master piece

    • @kevindube7096
      @kevindube7096 2 года назад +1

      @@toobeast5485 now you know the story & can play the solo as if the Lindbergh baby is channeling through you. I would recommend wearing a pacifier, will be especially impressive if you’re playing through a reed or horn instrument

    • @toobeast5485
      @toobeast5485 2 года назад +1

      @@kevindube7096 it’s on my trumpet so I’ll wear a bib, helps with the spit as well

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 2 года назад +9

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    • @mr.onethirtyeight5088
      @mr.onethirtyeight5088 2 года назад

      Man, I don’t want to beat you up more but I’ll be listening for any slip ups. Correction more than 3 and blatantly obvious mistakes. Because “Destination Declassified” you’re riddled with errors. Like on a South Pole video you said North Pole twice, 2 times! And the Chinook helicopter is pronounced Shi-nook not cynic brotha. Those are fireable offenses.

  • @sydneym5595
    @sydneym5595 2 года назад +2384

    what's the theory on how the baby actually ended up dead? clearly the kidnappers didn't intend to kill him, but i wonder if he was accidently dead from the start (dropped when the ladder broke?) or if something else had happened. i'd imagine it'd be pretty hard to accidently hit a baby over the head when it's that important to keep it alive. reminds me of another ransom case from the 90s/00s where a gasoline ceo was kidnapped for ransom and died of a heat stroke on day one, and the kidnappers kept increasing the ransom to prevent an exchange from being attempted. maybe that's why the kidnappers kept raising the price here, to stop anyone from putting up the money.

    • @liyre4189
      @liyre4189 2 года назад +315

      Yeah, I'm leaning on the ladder broke and the baby fell. Awful, tragic situation all around.

    • @zch7491
      @zch7491 2 года назад +130

      It does explain the stall tactics 🤔

    • @chompchompchangbin
      @chompchompchangbin 2 года назад +175

      I think they could've been ill-equipped to take care of a baby and they weren't expecting to keep Charles as long as they did.

    • @lorindawoerner4452
      @lorindawoerner4452 2 года назад +37

      I agree. Sounds like something happen unexpectedly

    • @Uncl3Funcl3
      @Uncl3Funcl3 2 года назад +10

      thank you chihiro

  • @noradiaz4983
    @noradiaz4983 2 года назад +231

    in my country there's a saying that translates to "you're more lost than lindbergh's son" but i never knew where it came from. thank you for the video, now i know. such a sad case

    • @ij4006
      @ij4006 2 года назад +7

      Which country?

    • @dankone3
      @dankone3 2 года назад +5

      Lol wtf?
      What country and language? Spanish?
      Mas perdido que el hijo de Lindbergh?

    • @gokudollz5969
      @gokudollz5969 Год назад +7

      Thats so fkd up

    • @YAWSSSSSS
      @YAWSSSSSS Год назад +4

      Kinda savage

    • @TODDYSAFARI
      @TODDYSAFARI 11 месяцев назад +1

      Venezuela?😳

  • @jsorensen
    @jsorensen 2 года назад +881

    John Condon's involvement was just odd...a local retired teacher, not a friend or relative, just pops into the situation, and Lindbergh trusts him. They did this independently of the police, investigating on their own. Absurd. So much of the information the investigators followed initially came from Condon's descriptions. This case is one of the most frustrating of any unsolved mystery. When you learn more about who Hauptmann was in Germany, the crimes he was guilty of, his innocence becomes less likely than many of his apologists have made him seem over the years. Hauptmann wasn't just some tragic figure of a persecuted German immigrant. He was a lifelong criminal who had kidnapped children before.

    • @andrewosborne3213
      @andrewosborne3213 2 года назад +75

      Yeah man Condon just appeared out of nowhere i don't understand.. so he just appeared with no relation to Lindbergh or the case at all and the kidnappers immediately wanted to deal with him?? Its obvious he knew perpetrators prior to joining the investigation right? Or is there an explanation as to why he became the one person who became the middleman dealing with the kidnappers? So confusing and frustrating this case

    • @UNUSUALUSERNAME220
      @UNUSUALUSERNAME220 2 года назад +39

      Absolutely. He could not keep his story straight and he was a massive hambone. He had the character of a failed actor. The police letting him get close to ANY of the potential suspects is mind boggling. It is one of those massive mistakes that police made in the past, that would have never happened in a modern investigation of this magnitude. Lindberg's own actions were suspect and unusual as well. I compare it to the Dallas police leaving the hallways of their own station filled with milling about reporters! Why would you allow that? Clear the building! Everybody get out until we have a better picture of what's going on! Hauptman was no saint, he was involved. Even if his involvement was cursory, he knew something shady was going on.

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 Год назад +5

      @@UNUSUALUSERNAME220 I think Hauptmann was a scapegoat of sorts not entirely innocent as they might have got him to make the ladder and him being lazy or wanted to keep it underwarps made it sloppy and out of his own wood. I do not think he was directly involved in the actual kidnapping cause you would think he would have made a better ladder then cause that is risky for him to do or he just overestimated his own skills with the material and was a middleman after the fact though as he was seen as the most disposable person involved.

    • @UNUSUALUSERNAME220
      @UNUSUALUSERNAME220 Год назад +1

      @@victory8928 Sounds reasonable. When you're freely spending the money, you've been touched by the incident somehow. Complete deniability is pointless, he (unfortunately) was the blood that the police, prosecutors and public wanted. Pleading guilty would have saved his life, but I don't think that the mishandling of his case would have lead to a new trial or an acquittal. Infamy was his ultimate downfall, there was no way to escape it.

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 Год назад +2

      @@UNUSUALUSERNAME220 Oh Pleease, Hauptmann didn't get over $14,000 gold leaf dollars from the fn Tooth Fairy.

  • @timothybelgard-wiley4823
    @timothybelgard-wiley4823 2 года назад +2329

    ...my grandpa Raymond was a Lindbergh kidnapping buff and always believed two things about the case, one is that the kidnappers dropped the baby while trying to go back down the ladder, which was very poorly built, giving the child a fatal head injury, the other was about Hauptman, he was a carpenter by trade, as was my grandpa and grandpa said "no German carpenter would build a ladder that was so obviously poorly built, my mom and I have always believed that Lindbergh himself was behind the kidnapping, his interest in neugenics and friendly relationship with good old Hitler, the little boy had rickets and was slow to learn and may have been mentally disabled, he wasn't perfect....

    • @caneyebus
      @caneyebus 2 года назад +191

      This is pretty much the theory that I think makes the most sense.

    • @CatFamOfficial
      @CatFamOfficial 2 года назад +210

      Exactly! He also had 3 separate families overseas which he seemed to favor more than his American one, so I think he viewed this as a mistake he had to fix.

    • @monkey0427
      @monkey0427 2 года назад +110

      No offense, but this theory has very little evidence and is pure speculation. Not a very convincing theory put for5 by your grandpa, and it doesn’t matter if he was a “buff” on the case.

    • @greenflagracing7067
      @greenflagracing7067 2 года назад +24

      @@CatFamOfficial this is the kind of BS rabbit hole that Cadaber wants to avoid. Conspiracy morons will believe anything.

    • @timothybelgard-wiley4823
      @timothybelgard-wiley4823 2 года назад +63

      Theories are all just that, but I also didn't think they really had any evidence against hauptman, he was railroaded by a "wood expert" and the go between saying he "sounded like" John....we'll probably never know the truth, I speak of my grampa because he lived through the trial as an adult, life experiences are part of why I am suspicious of Lindbergh...but it could have been that hauptman was set up...there are lots of Theories....that was just my grampas, and he was a Lindbergh buff and knew all the details and talked of different theories, that's just the one he thought was right....

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 2 года назад +1435

    Charles Lindbergh was not a good dude, but that poor baby. He suffered. He wasn’t an infant, he was old enough to be terrified by what he went through.

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 года назад +43

      Still better than the rioters in Minnesota and the Rothschilds 😂

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 2 года назад +2

      O

    • @TheDangerZone86
      @TheDangerZone86 2 года назад +8

      He was a great man

    • @sarah3796
      @sarah3796 2 года назад

      😭😭😭😭

    • @ashleyhathaway8548
      @ashleyhathaway8548 2 года назад +166

      @@wolfetteplays8894 What, don't have the balls to write _blacks_ and _jews_ ?

  • @killonel
    @killonel 2 года назад +76

    This case was so famous in my country Venezuela , that when someone is lost or out of there depth in something , the saying we use is “More lost than Lindbergh’s son”

    • @imtired9688
      @imtired9688 11 месяцев назад

      i'm venezuelan and have never heard that phrase, but it seems really interesting

    • @juanitabonita717
      @juanitabonita717 19 дней назад

      @@imtired9688 Oh yes! Mas perdio que'l hijo e' limbert....

  • @industrialover
    @industrialover 2 года назад +190

    You don't let someone that close to the case, with no experience as a detective, lead a case

  • @MickeyMallone.
    @MickeyMallone. 2 года назад +1055

    I've never noticed before, but there are some creepily similar elements between this and the JonBenet Ramsey case: the ransom note with its quirks, the specifications of how the money was to broken down, the piss-poor handling of the crime scene, the publicity brought on by the father's existing fame. It's a stretch, but maybe there was some inspiration taken by the perpetrator/s of the latter crime.

    • @johnthemachine
      @johnthemachine 2 года назад +23

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet 2 года назад +56

      Well, I wouldn’t say John Ramsey was already famous by any stretch. He was just another corporate rich guy in a huge industry. They weren’t even that wealthy compared to the wealth that exists in the US.
      Lindbergh was a household name.

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet 2 года назад +18

      If they took specific inspiration, they got lucky, since half the similarities were dumb luck. Seems more like the Ramsey murder was inspired by popular media, and popular media around kidnappings were likely inspired by various famous kidnappings such as the Lindbergh Baby.

    • @cclancaster13
      @cclancaster13 2 года назад +31

      JonBenet is the exact reason I was suspicious of the parents from the start. I mean, the guy seemed pretty dang guilty to me but it does seem odd that they didn't look into them

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet 2 года назад +13

      Sorry if I sound stern or rudely dismissive, it’s hard to get my time right. Not intentional.

  • @haileybalmer9722
    @haileybalmer9722 2 года назад +573

    I'd like to point out, according to Betty Gow, the way that night went down was a little differently. She went to check on the baby after he'd been in bed for a couple of hours. She didn't find him in his cot and assumed that he must be with his mother. She went to Anne to check, and finding that the baby wasn't with her, she went down to Charles' study. Charles immediately runs up the stairs, exclaims that the baby has been kidnapped, and starts running all around the house. No one found the ransom note until just before the police showed up an hour later. They didn't find the ladder until Charles and the police went to search the property. The police noted that even though it was dark, he went straight to the ladder, which was laying in the grass and a little ways away from the house when they found it, not easily spotted.
    I'm convinced Ol' Lucky Lindy had his imperfect son killed to protect his reputation, so I'm definitely biased. Still, everything about Betty Gow's statement paints Charles in a suspicious light. Add to that his obsession with eugenics and the fact that Charlie Jr. was a hydrocephalic with rickets and developmental disabilities, it hints at something very very dark.

    • @sarah3796
      @sarah3796 2 года назад +10

      😲😲 oh wow. How was the toddler imperfect?

    • @sarah3796
      @sarah3796 2 года назад +20

      Ooooooohhh sorry I read the rest of your comment. Oh boy that’s dark.

    • @earthsacurse
      @earthsacurse 2 года назад +4

      this sounds so awful :(

    • @Etherman7
      @Etherman7 2 года назад +11

      I mean, the Kennedys had their daughter lobotomized and hidden. Even rich families that had some okay eggs did some really bad stuff back then. I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @nnoffuture
      @nnoffuture 2 года назад +1

      @@Etherman7 who was the ok egg in the Kennedy’s?

  • @mltnflwrs7151
    @mltnflwrs7151 2 года назад +95

    Great work as always Cadaber!
    You should take a look at the case of the death of Paulette Gebara. It is similar to baby Lindbergh's but this one happened in Mexico around 2010 and it didn't have a clear resolution (the government and police concluded the child had been dead on her bed all the time since the beggining of the investigations but no one noticed... As stupid as it may sound). It is one of the strangest unsolved crimes that have happened in this country.

    • @sirpudding1581
      @sirpudding1581 2 года назад +9

      That case is really bizarre. 9 days and no one smelt anything?

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 2 года назад +2

      And didnt someone sleep in the bed? A friend of the family? It's so odd they didn't pull that bed apart for clues. And logic just screams that the bed should have been turned over for a full inspection. Instead they sleep there. 😴
      No one smells a thing, then suddenly someone changing the sheets almost 2 weeks later finds a body.
      How a disabled child wiggled to that position is still unclear, unless she was put there after death. But I still struggle to believe the parents wouldnt "hint" at the body's location if that was true.
      I still believe the kiddy squirmed her way to the end of the bed, got stuck, and everyone there was too incompetent to notice.

  • @nohaycancionessintigo2521
    @nohaycancionessintigo2521 2 года назад +134

    Well done but you underestimate Lindbergh's fame at the time of the kidnapping. Most of his biographers describe him as among the most famous people on earth and his every move was followed by the press. He was an international hero.

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 года назад +13

      Never heard of him before in my life

    • @ChodeMaster
      @ChodeMaster 2 года назад +21

      On earth? No, in america? Maybe.

    • @SG-bp4lg
      @SG-bp4lg 2 года назад +20

      @@ChodeMaster international =/= worldwide. He was very famous in Europe as well. Comparable to Niel Armstrong.

    • @wrightblan1501
      @wrightblan1501 2 года назад +13

      @@wolfetteplays8894 For reals? Are you a non-American? Lindbergh the first person to fly across the Atlantic solo, and became a national hero afterwards.
      His status as a hero declined in recent years as more focus on his right-wing political views have been focused on more.

    • @feshpince
      @feshpince 2 года назад +3

      @@wrightblan1501 "Right-Wing" is putting it lightly. The dude was in favor of Eugenics. You know, that thing Hitler did.

  • @AJsNewLife
    @AJsNewLife 2 года назад +21

    Thank you for covering this! I've always heard about the Lindbergh baby, but I didn't realize how much I didn't know about the case. I had no idea they found him. I thought he was still missing. I also didn't realize anyone had been found responsible for the kidnapping. Very interesting. Thanks again!

  • @Cadaber
    @Cadaber  2 года назад +199

    There is a lot to this case and I know I didn't cover everything. I don't want to give any spoilers in the comment here but I am truly curious as to what you think of the case. Does anything stand out that I mentioned? or do you have your own theory? I know I came across nearly 9 theories on this case when researching but most all of them were too far fetched for me to take serious.

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 2 года назад +5

      I buy the FBI's general idea: Bruno was the ringleader, don't know who else was involved. Don't think he acted alone (guess that's different than FBI story?). He kept the gold certificates and split the bills with his accomplices.
      The idea the Maid was an inside source is compelling and mentioned on other reports on the story but hard to say that is anything more than wild speculation now.

    • @conzmoleman
      @conzmoleman 2 года назад +3

      If you haven’t seen this feature length doc, it’s mandatory viewing. The best and most comprehensive examination of the case I’ve ever seen. Please view it in its entirety, I think you’ll find it invaluable. ruclips.net/video/AIKsp6pefCg/видео.html

    • @davehugstrees
      @davehugstrees 2 года назад +5

      Great video. My feeling is that it was a domestic death covered up to look like a kidnapping with phony ransom note, etc. similar to the JonBenet Ramsay situation. Hauptmann probably wanted to cash in by pretending to be the kidnapper, and Lindbergh played along by claiming to identify the baby’s sleeping suit. The rest of the case against Hauptmann seems flimsy and possibly fabricated. It just doesn’t make sense that Hauptmann would go to all the trouble to cover his fingerprints and footprints, but then leave his ladder. That’s my two cents anyway.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 2 года назад +14

      Why were those stories "too far fetched to take seriously", yet you fully believed that a tulpa crossed the threshold from a figment of someone's imagination into objective reality? 🤦‍♀️

    • @conzmoleman
      @conzmoleman 2 года назад +5

      @@WobblesandBean Ethered!!! You legit crucified him lmao. Wish I could give a thousand likes.

  • @monkey0427
    @monkey0427 2 года назад +173

    The most likely scenario in my head is that Bruno maybe with help took the baby and fell on the way down dude to the ladder breaking. Charles junior hit his head and succumbed to the injuries while Bruno was getting away. At which point he was quickly buried. Bruno kept raising the price so that eventually people would give up and forget about the baby, but they didn’t and Bruno was eventually caught. There is far too much little pieces of evidence that prove that Bruno was guilty. (The wood and took marks are so tiny yet very convincing)

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 Год назад +3

      A lot of people don't know that there were actually two fractures of the skull, the second was a hole, but not caused by a bullet. John Douglas made a documentary about this case, well worth looking that up.

  • @bob7975
    @bob7975 2 года назад +22

    There had to be someone from inside the household involved because the baby was only supposed to be there for one night, and the trip itself was suddenly decided. Whether Lindberg himself was involved or not, there simply had to be a larger conspiracy beyond Hauptman.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean 2 года назад +227

    The police were wholly incompetent and contaminated the crime scene? I'm shocked. This is my shocked face. 😒

    • @Shadamyfan-rs8xc
      @Shadamyfan-rs8xc 2 года назад +21

      The police in the 20's we're about as useful as an umbrella in the shower

    • @jakobl7469
      @jakobl7469 2 года назад

      Age well?

  • @MMumbles
    @MMumbles 2 года назад +7

    I can rarely ever stomach cases surrounding kids... But it's Cadaber. I had no doubt he'd give this case the respect it needs.

  • @mickideg1837
    @mickideg1837 2 года назад +6

    I was born in 58 and i remember being very young hearing about this. It was talked about alot even then.

  • @HSTMachine
    @HSTMachine 2 года назад +53

    If anyone wants to look into the case further, the book Hauptmann's Ladder by Richard Cahill goes into the case and followup in extremely thorough detail, and also explores numerous theories arguing Brunos innocence. His wife maintained he had nothing to do with the kidnapping until the day she died.

    • @reginaelson9722
      @reginaelson9722 Год назад

      Thanks! My students are studying this case right now. I just bought the book. I’ve been teaching this for 10 years, and I’m always surprised that I’m still learning new information.

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 Год назад +1

      Oh dear, the wife denied her husband & her son's father was guilty. And? There was Nothing innocent about Hauptman. BTW - authors make Money off people like you.

    • @charlessteenburgen
      @charlessteenburgen 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@bethryan9077HEY GETRUDE READ SCAPEGOAT BY ANTHONY SCADUTO HAUPTMANN WAS FRAMED ..PROVEN FACT

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 2 года назад +56

    The only thing that gets me, is the facts about the baby. It makes me really think about what all happened and how and when and we've seen random people step in to take advantage of a situation to gain money off of it. If there could be evidence connecting Bruno to the baby, then I would be set that he was guilty and not just trying to get money out of a crazy situation.

  • @snorlax6691
    @snorlax6691 2 года назад +208

    There’s a huge Mandela Effect surrounding this case. A significant number of people seem to remember that the Lindbergh baby was never found and the perpetrator was never caught, and are only learning this story in recent years. I think All Time Scary has mentioned it before in one of his videos.

    • @Sanakudou
      @Sanakudou 2 года назад +36

      It would’ve been headline news in the beginning and an exciting mystery for people to fixate on but it’s possible after many months went by the public didn’t retain enough interest to even be looking for a “case solved!” media report.
      This sort of thing happens even today, people being completely unaware of story updates, particularly if it’s not listed in headline news - which has caused a lot of problems when something is revealed to be a fake/heavily slanted news report. There’s even been studies showing most people don’t read past or pay attention to anything but article titles, leaving a lot of people uninformed on the details of certain stories. So it’s not too baffling that there were people who never ended up knowing that this case was actually solved/concluded.

    • @ExplodingConsole
      @ExplodingConsole 2 года назад +3

      I was thinking about that and looking to see if anyone has posted a message about it.

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist 2 года назад +14

      a significant number of people from the time are dead

    • @staceyann1180
      @staceyann1180 2 года назад +13

      I think the Mandela Effect in this case can be somewhat easily explained, because I thought the same thing. The case was so famous, I beard about it in a variety of ways.... Usually little quips or mentions (such as Grandpa Simpson mentioning it). I didn't hear or research any in depth details about the case until I was much, much older. Here's why I thought it was unsolved - whenever the media made a brief reference to the case, they usually seemed to quote the most famous headline- "Who took the Lindbergh baby?" I heard it over and over, I even saw the headline multiple times. As I was young, I figured if they had more info they wouldn't keep asking that. I never said I was a smart kid...

    • @GippyHappy
      @GippyHappy 2 года назад +2

      That's what I thought too but to be fair I never knew anything about the case outside of random pop culture references. It's possible it's being confused with a different case.

  • @Knightytt
    @Knightytt 2 года назад +4

    Great work as usual, Cadaber. Fascinating case.

  • @hollowlost3973
    @hollowlost3973 2 года назад +89

    When I first heard about this story I recall hearing that the baby had died after he had fallen from the ladder. I am not sure if this is the case as I imagine blood would have been found on the scene, but it would make sense as to why the kidnapper tried so hard to stall the exchange out

    • @mikailvandartel
      @mikailvandartel 2 года назад +21

      Maybe the kidnapped fell together with the baby. That might explain why the ladder is broken.

    • @Smulenify
      @Smulenify 2 года назад +18

      If I remember correctly there was grass below the ladder, so a fall wouldn't necessarily lead to a bleeding injury, but there would definitely be blood if it was the cause of those specific injuries. Even a short fall could lead to a fatal brain injury, however the two seperate head injuries were consistent with being struck. There was a dented thermos found nearby, so it's speculated that the kidnappers were panicking as the alarms went off at the house, and struck him to keep him quiet. They would have had to use a lot of force, which could be a sign of anger, but could also be a sign of twisted compassion (strike hard to make sure the death is instant.)

    • @Fandomsaremylifee
      @Fandomsaremylifee 2 года назад +26

      Baby’s heads are very soft, so after falling from the window it could have squished instead of bleeding and cracking

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist 2 года назад +15

      nah, internal damage could have happened without their being external signs of damage

    • @Smulenify
      @Smulenify 2 года назад +5

      @@howdareyouexist but the baby was found with a cracked skull and a hole that made them first believe he had been shot.

  • @silenttoxic707
    @silenttoxic707 2 года назад +51

    I've heard about this but only extremely obscurely... This video should be amazing. Thanks man!

  • @irishjoe9195
    @irishjoe9195 2 года назад +17

    The movie “Along Came A Spider” first got me to look into this case

  • @poeallen5014
    @poeallen5014 2 года назад +40

    Statistically yeah the parents are number 1 suspects, but kidnappings like this do happen especially if it was the depression and he was a powerful figure. I don’t see why he would do something like this, not to mention why he would pay money for a ransom just to frame some other person he doesn’t have any ties to.

    • @dankone3
      @dankone3 2 года назад +4

      Well apparently the baby wasn’t “perfect” he was born with defects and considering the fact that Charles was obsessed with eugenics and the perfect pure white race it doesn’t sound too far-fetched to think that maybe just maybe he didn’t want an imperfect son?
      Also *IF* it was him, why wouldn’t he pay money (whether it’s to frame somebody else or any other reason) to prevent suspicion falling on him?
      It wasn’t “just to frame some other person he doesn’t have any ties to” it was to protect himself, obviously that’s IF he had been the one responsible which who knows.

    • @GippyHappy
      @GippyHappy 2 года назад +1

      @@dankone3 It's not that hard to kill a baby why bother framing someone at all, just say "my baby disappeared from this window, oh well what can ya do, it happens" instead he makes a big deal out of it and takes control of the investigation and successfully frames...some dude? That's a lot of steps to get rid of 1 kid. Just push him down the stairs or drown him in the bath or drop him off a boat and say it was an accident.
      Or don't kill your baby, that also works.

    • @jamesa.romano8500
      @jamesa.romano8500 Год назад +3

      I just don't like the way this vid shames and guilt trips anyone who posits that theory - I would ordinarily agree but considering that most all of the major parties involved are now deceased, I feel like it's nowhere near as bad or disrespectful as the regular speculating we see in True Crime vids now that regularly make the parents or innocent parties suspects just for clicks/views (The Delphi Murders TC craze comes to mind). I've heard compelling arguments for both sides but the closing to the vid just seems like an attempt to shut down debate by appealing to emotion, which is a weird line to draw considering how exploitative the genre is anyway - when we're 75 years to a century removed from the cases I find them a little easier to discuss without feeling like a voyeur

  • @wadejohnston4305
    @wadejohnston4305 2 года назад +4

    I live in NJ and so has my family for many generations and my grandfather whose father was middle age when this happened loved telling this story to people who didn't know about it and apparently yes the father had HUGE sway in the case from start to end he was still given advice by close friends/family whilst making decisions. It comes up in the random local paper sometimes and local websites as well. Mostly speculating about if the guy charged wasn't guilty or if he was he had to have had help. A very interesting case and it was very fascinating to see an "outsiders" perspective on it.

  • @AFarmerCalledChicken
    @AFarmerCalledChicken 2 года назад +6

    One of my great-grandfather’s would have been 11 or 12 when this happened. It makes me wish he were still around. Between the depression, the war and this... he must have had some interesting stories

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 2 года назад

      Really? At 12 you think he had theories?

  • @wolfiiu
    @wolfiiu 2 года назад +40

    a just feel like there’s way easier ways to cover up the death of your kid to make it look like an accident than staging a high-scale kidnapping involving paying thousands of dollars.
    even if charles didn’t like his kid, i just think that this was too much for him to have done it. poison the kid and say he got in to some chemicals or something. drop him and say he fell and hit his head. kids are dumb and accident prone, it’s not uncommon for these things to happen.
    (edit: i’m not trying to encourage killing your own kid, i’m js)

    • @toidIllorTAmI
      @toidIllorTAmI Год назад +1

      ... Uh

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 Год назад +4

      Exactly, especially way back then. And as if he'd involved others who would blab at the drop of a hat.

  • @pachpaints5356
    @pachpaints5356 2 года назад +16

    I found out it was the inspiration for it after looking at Wikipedia, but the entire time I was listening to this I was thinking of Murder on the Orient Express and the kidnapping/death of Daisy Armstrong.

  • @VoidVagabond
    @VoidVagabond 2 года назад +9

    11:36 "and his name, was John" I started hearing the John Cena horns in my head.

  • @maidenofmoths
    @maidenofmoths 2 года назад +27

    I think Bruno, probably with other people, planned this and were genuinely not wanting to kill the baby. I think on the way out of the window, the ladder broke and the baby hit his head, and he died then or shortly after. Idk, it's sad.

    • @charlessteenburgen
      @charlessteenburgen 7 месяцев назад

      Nope you're wrong read SCAPEGOAT BY ANTHONY SCADUTO

  • @user-yv1dv1sp3c
    @user-yv1dv1sp3c 2 года назад +2

    Look forward to this all the time.

  • @ack_ack_jack
    @ack_ack_jack 2 года назад +4

    I recall my mom mentioning this case in passing, but I don't know details whatsoever. I'm interested to see your video!

  • @dmargaret2729
    @dmargaret2729 2 года назад +103

    Thanks for doing this case, Cadaber!
    I don't press the issue too much (for the compassionate reasons) but I do believe that Lindberg arranged to have his own baby kidnapped BUT NOT HURT. It just went terribly wrong when the ladder broke. And not even for reasons of money or notoriety: because of his beliefs and public stance in favor of Eugenics. I FULLY acknowledge that this theory is based on circumstancial evidence and some household staffs accounts tho!

    • @johndonaldson3619
      @johndonaldson3619 2 года назад +4

      Your THEORY is as good as alien abduction...except aliens are a MUCH better theory!!!

    • @ianc8266
      @ianc8266 2 года назад +12

      What does eugenics have to do with the kidnapping?

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist 2 года назад +1

      prove it

    • @zebraskin
      @zebraskin 2 года назад +35

      @@ianc8266 at the time of the murder they down played the babys conditions but he had rickets and was also slow developmentally though we are not 100% sure what caused it but he had a big skull (for his age) that should have been already fused together and wasn't along with hammer toes on one of his feet. He definitely wasn't the picture of health or genes. There is also a story from a friend of the Lindbergs (whom told this story as a found memory, not in menacing way) that he saw Charles throw pillows at the boy when he was trying to walk and knock him over. Sure that might sound innocent but he knew the kid had rickets which is painful and also causes brittle bones. Let's just say that had this kid been born in Germany he probably would have been killed because of eugenics so why believe that father who had the same beliefs wouldn't want to do the same, especially if he felt it would look bad on him.

    • @zoeyrochellezhombie829
      @zoeyrochellezhombie829 2 года назад +31

      The baby had issues where Charles saw as an embarrassment and not his idea of 'perfection'. Eugenics is the process of getting rid of 'undesirables'.

  • @Will_Dirt
    @Will_Dirt 2 года назад +1

    Well done as always. Thanks brother

  • @destiny5544
    @destiny5544 2 года назад +5

    I really appreciate that you take the high road and don't speculate, you just state the facts. There's so much misinformation and conspiracy theories on this platform, it's always nice to find a creator that values people's lives over views.

  • @andrewosborne3213
    @andrewosborne3213 2 года назад +13

    Woohoo!! So happy for a new upload from you! Always exciting when you or Lemmino, Matt Orchard or JCS make a new video.. all of you guys take your time to research and compose super high quality videos! You all seem to realize how much better Quality over Quantity is.. we all very much appreciate your time and passion that goes into these videos and will always be excited when new content is released! Thank you and God bless

    • @dankone3
      @dankone3 2 года назад +1

      Look up Lazy Masquerade, you won’t be disappointed.
      He was actually the very first RUclipsr I followed before I ever even knew following specific people on RUclips was a thing. I originally just used this site for music and watching random shit but he turned me into a fan real quick lol.

  • @christiancummings6283
    @christiancummings6283 2 года назад +1

    Wendigoon brought me here. Great content man! Really looking for some great mysteries

  • @numise9
    @numise9 2 года назад +8

    I kept thinking I had heard about this case already and now it clicked: it's the crime that "Murder on the Orient Express" by Agatha Christie is based on!

  • @Funckle73
    @Funckle73 2 года назад +18

    Why weren’t the taxi drivers interviewed?!!! There had to be more of a description than “a stranger” gave them the letters!!!

    • @awesomeman8385
      @awesomeman8385 2 года назад +5

      Back then there was no way to communicate at all even within the same city. Telegrams were extremely expensive and lengthy. Sending a letter in the post could take days.
      So it was extremely common to hail a taxi and just pay the fare for them to deliver a letter. You could send information in a few minutes rather than days. So it's very possible they just didn't consider it unique enough to remember anything important. Now a days it would definitely be a unique experience for a cab driver.

  • @andrewosborne7544
    @andrewosborne7544 2 года назад +2

    Dude I just want to say, your videos are amazing. Always fascinating topics, entertaining presentation and your voice is perfect for it! And thank You so much for the hours of entertainment.

  • @sapphire1641
    @sapphire1641 2 года назад

    I just found this channel today... On the Nick Crowley iceberg video and I can't sing enough praises. I've been binging all day and I'm upset because I'm 2 videos away from finishing the true crime ones

  • @buzzrock9570
    @buzzrock9570 2 года назад +1

    Finally, I can now understand that one joke from Kid Gorgeous at Radio City by John mulaney. Thank you so much

  • @Lukkilikka
    @Lukkilikka 2 года назад +17

    This is the case that inspired the backstory on Agatha christie's 'murder on the orient express'. That's how I heard about this case.

  • @jsorensen
    @jsorensen 2 года назад +46

    Almost no one at the time would have suspected Lindbergh. Now that history has shown him to be a terrible human being, it makes it much easier to condemn him as possibly being involved.

    • @bethryan9077
      @bethryan9077 Год назад

      Absolutely ridiculous but as per, loads of people make Money from shit like that type of Fairy Tale.

  • @RisingRevengeance
    @RisingRevengeance 2 года назад +9

    I don't really see any way the dad couldve been involved.
    There are odd stuff tho, like why bury the body quickly in an easily found place? As morbid as it sounds getting rid of a small child in a forest sounds like an easy task, I think they wanted him found... for some reason.

  • @TwilightPrincessFR
    @TwilightPrincessFR 2 года назад

    I love when i struggle to sleep, there is suddenly been uploaded more Cadaber- videos!! Dont know where my push notifz for your channel are though 🤔

  • @addisonb.1356
    @addisonb.1356 2 года назад +28

    "If the Lindbergh baby had steel-toe boots, he'd still be alive today. Street smarts!!"

  • @Styrac
    @Styrac 2 года назад

    11:35 When you said "And his name" in my head I went "JOHN CENA" because thats a classic, about had a heart attack when you followed it with "was John..."

  • @weepingsheeps
    @weepingsheeps 2 месяца назад

    I know people question the quality of RUclips sponsor products(rightfully) but I hands down love Raycon sm

  • @jasonvargas7564
    @jasonvargas7564 2 года назад +2

    Yassss thanks for this upload

  • @pletch73
    @pletch73 2 года назад

    I've seen many documentaries about this kidnapping, I'm surprised at how much new information I learned from your video.

  • @anthonypile395
    @anthonypile395 2 года назад +2

    Hauptman committed a burglary in Germany using a ladder. Hauptman committed an armed robbery of a woman pushing a baby carriage in Germany.. If Lindbergh killed his own kid then how the hell did the kidnapping money end up in Hauptman's garage

  • @ihaveaname699
    @ihaveaname699 2 года назад +17

    you know i never remember anything about the lindenburgh baby
    edit: including how to spell his name.

  • @larunasoftpaw570
    @larunasoftpaw570 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of my great-uncles had to be placed in an orphanage for a bit after my great-grandmother became widowed & was taken out after she remarried. Apparently someone at the orphanage was like "whoa this kid looks like the Lindbergh baby" & tipped off law enforcement. Obviously it was easy to discount him since his parents were documented but it's just kind of a fun fact from mom's side of the family.

  • @terpmaniac
    @terpmaniac 11 месяцев назад +2

    Forensic Files did a special program on the kidnapping and they found experts who confirmed Hauptman wrote the ransom note and the wood for the ladder came from his attic. He also possessed some of the ransom money. The money was marked. He was guilty.

  • @Dtom32
    @Dtom32 2 года назад +15

    I have herd that no one was able to hear Charlie cry out or anything when being taken, could it be that the kidnapper tried to knock him out to silence him and accidentally hit him to hard and killed him befroe even getting him out of the room.

    • @mikearling
      @mikearling 2 года назад +6

      Sounds like they fell from the ladder

    • @sarah3796
      @sarah3796 2 года назад

      @@mikearling ooohhh 😬😬😬😭

    • @staceyann1180
      @staceyann1180 2 года назад +1

      It was a very large house and, if sturdy enough, sound may not travel far. The poor baby's skull was very seriously caved in...if it was an attempt to quiet the baby, the kidnapper REALLY must have overshot that blow.
      There's one thing that really doesn't make sense to me.... The broken ladder... Did you see how tall it was? They said it broke in the middle. So a baby and kidnapper fell from that height and didn't leave a trace of blood and still made a completely clean get-away? Maybe someone on the inside handed the baby off and the ladder was planted to throw off investigators? I really don't know with this one.

    • @staceyann1180
      @staceyann1180 2 года назад

      It was a very large house and, if sturdy enough, sound may not travel far. The poor baby's skull was very seriously caved in...if it was an attempt to quiet the baby, the kidnapper REALLY must have overshot that blow.
      There's one thing that really doesn't make sense to me.... The broken ladder... Did you see how tall it was? They said it broke in the middle. So a baby and kidnapper fell from that height and didn't leave a trace of blood and still made a completely clean get-away? Maybe someone on the inside handed the baby off and the ladder was planted to throw off investigators? I really don't know with this one.

    • @Tokuijin
      @Tokuijin 2 года назад +3

      @@staceyann1180 Depending on how the head is hit, it's possible to not have bleeding happen, except for internally.

  • @patriciafeehan7732
    @patriciafeehan7732 2 года назад +33

    His last words were some day you will all know I am innocent. I am not a baby killer. Bruno right until last moment denied involvement. I believe him.

    • @ohno8398
      @ohno8398 2 года назад +17

      Unfortunately another killer who said the same was confirmed to have committed the murder for certain with DNA evidence sometime after his death. It's horrible but I'm not sure how much stock we really can put in those words.

  • @AdaptiveArtisian
    @AdaptiveArtisian 2 года назад +27

    Cadaber has the ability to fully captivate the viewer as well as being a substitution for sleeping pills. Thanks for creating videos Cadaber 💪🏼

  • @byggrynsgroet
    @byggrynsgroet 2 года назад

    i love the song in your intro, please dont ever change it!

  • @marlow3621
    @marlow3621 2 года назад +1

    There is new cadaber video I drop everything to watch

  • @archaeon1365
    @archaeon1365 2 года назад +6

    Video starts at 2:07

  • @sergeipohkerova7211
    @sergeipohkerova7211 2 года назад +12

    I think Hauptman did it or was at least heavily involed, but it didn't go down exactly like the official story.

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 2 года назад +1

      That is the most likely series of events. I don't know if the maid was his inside source or not, I've heard people go both ways on that one.

  • @MisterFribble
    @MisterFribble 2 года назад +2

    can we just appreciate for a moment how Cadaber's hair is absolutely glorious?

  • @miruee
    @miruee 2 года назад

    finally some good content! I hope you can grow and make videos with quality the same as Lemmino

  • @FrostySumo
    @FrostySumo 2 года назад +51

    Charles Lindbergh is dead. He does not care if you accuse him of a crime I do not see how talking about possible motives and theories is accusing him. You're just exploring all angles.

  • @jbark678
    @jbark678 2 года назад +1

    Came because of Wendigoon's shout out. Your voice is perfect for your content.

  • @GreenPonderingFrog
    @GreenPonderingFrog 2 года назад +4

    A theory I found was that as they tried climbing down with the baby on the ladder, it cracked, and the baby fell. Baby hit the ground and started crying so who ever took the baby ended up hitting the baby’s head this killing him. The ladder fully broke as the guy fell or quickly climbed down after the crying baby.

  • @Oblio1942
    @Oblio1942 2 года назад +6

    wouldnt it be hard to forget that the guy you met in a cemetery when discussing your stolen baby had a german accent?

  • @gaara4evaandeva
    @gaara4evaandeva 2 года назад

    I can't express how much I enjoy your content

  • @leegoderz83
    @leegoderz83 2 года назад

    Great content fella !

  • @pyro-0438
    @pyro-0438 2 года назад +1

    i was just binging your videos until i saw you posted a new one :0

  • @Rihansu743
    @Rihansu743 2 года назад +3

    I remember watching an episode of unsolved mysteries and always remember that the baby was never found.

  • @w.irvingrailfan4811
    @w.irvingrailfan4811 Год назад

    New sub. Love your presentation!

  • @Oblvious
    @Oblvious 2 года назад

    Been watching for a while and you intro still goes hard :,)

  • @greatdeals5722
    @greatdeals5722 2 года назад +3

    The ransom letter in this case was like the ransom letter in Jonbennet case .

  • @movealongtoots
    @movealongtoots Год назад +2

    Can’t believe I’ve never heard of this before. My initial instinct tells me it’s unlikely that there were some grand FBI conspiracy to frame a random German carpenter though they have been proven to do shady things obviously. It does seem strange the kidnapper knew which room the baby slept but since kidnappings have happened forever I assume there’s a way to figure it out.

  • @onbearfeet
    @onbearfeet 2 года назад +5

    I think Bruno Hauptmann was involved in the kidnapping, but I don't think he was the only person involved. For one thing, he was found with only about a third of the ransom money, and no more of the money appeared in circulation before or after his arrest. That makes a three-way split (with two others who didn't spend their shares at gas stations) seem likely.
    The second reason I think it wasn't a one-man job is the logistics. Between the surveillance necessary to know when/where the child would be alone and the actual taking itself, it seems like too much for one person to plan and execute alone. A solo kidnapper would make a plan that didn't involve silently scaling a rickety ladder in the dark while holding a potentially struggling child. With one or two other people--maybe one to hold the ladder and another to act as lookout or getaway driver--the plan makes more sense.
    The inconsistent visual identification also makes sense if Bruno wasn't the man in the cemetery. After the arrest, Bruno's confederates, if he had them, could have threatened Bruno's loved ones (if memory serves, he had a wife and son) to keep him quiet about their involvement.
    There have been some theories about who the other people might have been. I don't find any particular suspects especially compelling, but I do think somebody got away with murder.

  • @dream_walker9726
    @dream_walker9726 Год назад +1

    i remember my french teacher using this case to teach us french in 9th grade 💀

  • @lizc6393
    @lizc6393 2 года назад +3

    Damn, Cadaber is a very dapper young lad 😏

  • @lauraarauz8638
    @lauraarauz8638 2 года назад +1

    There is a saying in Spanish which goes: "You are more lost than Lindbergh's son". I never knew who it was referring to until now.

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @shulginmingus1083
    @shulginmingus1083 2 года назад +58

    Nice video! Does feel a little uncomfortable to frame Charles Lindbergh as an American hero at the start of the video though. I appreciate that at the time he absolutely was, but were lucky enough to be living today and should likely frame it as such. I mean his eugenicist, racist, Nazi-sympathizing views are well known and should probably not just go unmentioned if your going to frame Lindberghs personal life and history, but hey thats just my view of it. Cheers on another great video though!

    • @Katie-gr6qq
      @Katie-gr6qq 2 года назад +3

      Exactly. It should be explained just how famous he was and how people felt at the time, but not adding that he was a worse person that words can accurately describes comes off as poorly researched at best.

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 2 года назад +1

      I think it's important to frame him in the context of his popularity at the time. But a follow-up disclaimer was then required.
      Any kid handing in a copy of this video's audio for his report will get an F.
      Then buried alive for plagiarism

  • @TheDramacist
    @TheDramacist 2 года назад +1

    There are so many cases, historical and modern of police contaminating the crime scene, or not disseminating it properly.
    There's the story of the disabled little girl who wiggled to the end of her bed, suffocated, died; her body was there almost 2 weeks until she was found. A friend of the family even slept in the bed whilst the child's "kidnapping" was investigated.
    How about the grown woman who was "kidnapped" from her family home? She had left her purse and keys. The house was home to extended family. It was days later they found her body upside down behind a tall dresser in her own bedroom. She had reached up to a tv on a high stand, then fallen down behind the dresser and trapped that way until death. Her sister found her when she started to decompose and smell.
    Had police at any point systematically searched these hotspots before assuming anything, they'd have solved the cases within hours.
    Logic dictates you secure and search the scene throughly.

  • @aVerveQuest
    @aVerveQuest 2 года назад +1

    Not too hard to guess the outcome when a kidnapper asks "would it be bad if the kid died??? .........just asking....... Just kidding"

  • @bungalowfeuhler1541
    @bungalowfeuhler1541 2 года назад +2

    I’ve uncovered a conspiracy against Raycon. Everyone who they aren’t paying says they are garbage. Obviously, they’re just trying to force Raycon to sponsor them by lying about their product until they pony up.

  • @toobeast5485
    @toobeast5485 2 года назад +1

    Chills when Cadabar finally drops
    *”Kenny Veach; The Twisted Case of RUclipss Missing Hiker”*

  • @dawndurante1554
    @dawndurante1554 6 месяцев назад

    I'm a criminal defense lawyer & I've studied the case in detail. (if I knew how to make a video I'd upload one.) I'll just mention Hauptmann. He was in the country illegally and was an immigrant with a thick accent. So he was a good target to blame. He was a carpenter & had perfectly fresh wood in his garage. The ladder was slapped together & broke while someone climbed down (if anyone had even climbed up.) The idea that the wood matched what was in his attic was lame & would never be allowed into evidence if this wasn't Lindbergh. Condon, the guy collecting the ransom, had his name & number inside a closet at Hauptmann's home. A reporter later admitted that he wrote it. Almost 200 gold certificates were popping up in NY and NJ. This weird Condon guy lived his life for publicity. He was there because Lindberg kept chasing away law enforcement personnel. Lindbergh ran everything. It's hard to believe that "John" had a long conversation, from the shadows, with Condon. Hauptmann was arrested & tortured. He was made to copy the ransom note as carefully and precisiously as the one they showed him. So there go the 5 handwritting experts. Whether they really found ransom money at his home isn't clear. He claimed that the $$ he had was left with him by a guy who owed him $$ and who had left the country. That person died soon after he left. It was just a fraction of the ransom $$. It explains why Hauptmann was spending more than he was earning. I'm sure there is more. If interested, check Lindberg's eugenics beliefs, his 3 other familes, his odd behavior on the day of & day before the kidnapping, etc. Eugenics is the key. Thanks for hanging in and reading this.

  • @lemickey9726
    @lemickey9726 2 года назад +1

    Lets gooooo new vid

  • @beckyhofheinz6245
    @beckyhofheinz6245 Год назад

    Sir Anthony Hopkins brilliantly plays Bruno Hauptmann in 1976 TV movie "The Lindberg Kidnapping Case"

  • @lis7613
    @lis7613 Год назад

    The first and only other time I've heard abount this case was in the book "along came a spider", wich is a kidnaping story, were the kidnaper mocks the man convicted for the Lindbergh case. It's a brief mention, the whloe story has more weird details and important mile stones for how investigations were dealt with after

  • @MrUnconcious
    @MrUnconcious 2 года назад +1

    What music is playing the first 10 minutes of the video?
    Sending you a Thank you for answering in advance :)

  • @nathanieldrake6658
    @nathanieldrake6658 2 года назад +3

    Well..how about a delving into a more realistic rabbit hole by providing information for any searches made for this supposed brother of Hauptmann?

  • @IDaiszy
    @IDaiszy 2 года назад +9

    6:57 "anydings," "for notify the police," and "Signature" (capital S) all seem like reasonable mistakes for a German native to make.

    • @IDaiszy
      @IDaiszy 2 года назад +1

      18:40 Nailed it

    • @Bulley
      @Bulley 2 года назад

      Or the fact that the author says "gut" instead of "good" in his letter

  • @lo0lol0lol0ol
    @lo0lol0lol0ol 2 года назад +1

    who was that in the last raycon ad clip i LOVE their hair

  • @collectivecommentary123
    @collectivecommentary123 2 года назад +2

    Why did I always think this took place in Europe in a small city called Lindbergh?

  • @Balrog-tf3bg
    @Balrog-tf3bg 2 года назад

    Growing up in Little Falls, we learned all about Lindbergh, including this one. Creeped me out as a kid

  • @alienajaxon250
    @alienajaxon250 2 года назад

    Watching this after Encanto: every time he says Bruno: "We don't talk about about Bruno!"