Very well said. The other problem you didn’t mention with the use of the ultra processed foods is they are all extremely high in carbohydrates which causes raised insulin. Continual eating causes not just your glucose to spike but your insulin too. Having a constantly high insulin is what causes the other hormones to go out of balance which adds to the cravings to eat. Ozempic is a dangerous drug which one would have to be on for life. Stopping taking the drug the weight comes back on unless the diet has been drastically changed and there are also gastric problems for some. Reduce the junk food, ultra processed food, and the carbohydrates. Say NO to the drug.
Spot on. The healthiest UK generation ever were those who were children during the Second World War. They grew up when most of the harmful foods were either rationed or not available at all. Meat and fats were also rationed and the only way to get a full belly was to fill up with tatties, and cruciferous veggies. I read recently that longevity had peaked and is now falling again. I suspect that's because that war time generation has pretty much gone now. The reliance on wonder drugs is a symptom of society's sickness. It's certainly not a cure for it.
I benefited from the ww2 diet. Even though I wasn't born until 58. Mu mother learned to cook during the war and she could make fantastic stews and soups from the scraps and cheap cuts from the butcher. Another thing that's changed is there are no longer opportunities to buy offal, the tastiest part of the ananimal, to protect us from ourselves.
@@therealrobertbirchall there is another way. In Italy there are cantinas which serve a set menu at a reasonable price. There business model is often based on a subscription or membership. This is more expensive than cooking at home, but a hot home cooked meal for €5 is very reasonable. Some cantinas also offer meals in exchange for work. So if you work for an hour cleaning you can get a hot meal.
Another thing that has led to the explosion of consumption of ultra processed food is the modern working environment with 30 minute lunch breaks in a 9 hour working day the norm meaning that if the worker wants to eat they have to eat something that is very quick to reheat or can be eaten cold
@@howardosborne8647 Absolutely. I live in the EU's "poorest" country - Bulgaria. But the average working class family has 2 kids on one salary in their mid 20's. So which country is REALLY poor...?
Our governments are too dependent on large businesses for their rise to power. You don't bite the hand that feeds you! A party that challenged the status quo would not get anywhere near the levers of power needed to effect change. Lack of funding and negative press coverage would see to that.
Governments first of all depend upon the electorate and nothing else. Only when the electorate is as ignorant as it is, it gives the large businesses the opportunity to fill the gap. In the economic crisis of 2008 those powerful people were named "the 1%". In an election, 1% is nothing. It just needs the 99% to realize.
surely in this instance the problem is one of sheer stupidity. i mean what kind of a cretin would do such a thing. surely someone whose intelligence should never qualify them to even be the manager of a small fastfood shop, let alone a "secretary of state" we have MPs to make sure nobody in power ever does anything as stupid as this thing. why isn't he working in a circus or a leisure centre? it's his calling.
Mercantile corporations hide their nefarious schemes behind 'we're all in this together' marketing; we're not, we're dying, and they're profiteering. The government needs to grow some and not be run by the also nefarious bond market (that with fiat doesn't even need to exist). Now, back to my plastic-contaminated coffee and corn/nut oil-saturated foodstuffs.
We really do need a slow food revolution. Better paid so we don't have to work long hours or more than one job, and the time to cook and enjoy real unprocessed food.
I often wonder though, if everyone got conscientious about their diet all of a sudden, would the fresh vegetables and meat that I live on go up in price due to demand. Maybe I'm happy to let the stupid masses keep stuffing their faces with processed crap actually.
I worked 60 hour weeks and still had home cooked meals every single day. It's a matter of priorities and sadly people would rather spend their time on TikTok and Netflix than learning how to prepare and cook their own meals. I spend 45 mins a day on food preparation. Not much is it.
I of course agree and chose at the age of 16 to stop eating meat whilst eating a bacon sandwich during my break at my Saturday job at Bedford pig market. The point being that yes good government has a responsibility to facilitate the education of citizens but when it fails to do so we still can choose to make different choices
@@pythonquark We consume home grown fruit and vegetables for nine months of the year. They are much higher quality and varied than anything you can buy, In a good year we also provide them as a gift for three or four families. It is hard for young families to spend the time needed, which is much more than you might imagine, but it quite feasible to have home cooked meals, as you write.
Another great video. More people are talking about this now. There are so many factors that are affecting our health. Mental health, job security, financial worries, obesity. These are wholistic and the solutions to these problems by government and industry sound too scary. We need a proper solution.
How right you are, again. Oh for a government that stands up for the right approach rather than bowing down to big business. Thank you. Best wishes. Al.
The influence of big business and wealth is everywhere and growing. We see it with their control over the media and the messaging that it puts out. As Richard points out, we see it in the pharmaceutical and food industry. It is there in our politics and I think that their influence was there in Labour's budget last week. It is there driving populism and the denigration of democracy etc etc. For more on this, Grace Blakeley's book "Vulture Capitalism" and "The Invisible Doctrine" by George Monbiot are worth a read.
Also 'Crack-Up Capitalism' by Slobodian. Although, to be fair, Rees-Mogg and Davidson reveal how anti-democratic and fundamentally immoral neoliberalism is in their book; 'The Sovereign Individual'. All the best.
If these people stopped eating ultra processed foods they would not need these drugs. I stopped eating these foods over 6 years ago and have never looked back. I ate very low carb for about 4 years to get my metabolism back to health, but now can eat all non ultra processed foods including carbs without gaining weight. I eat 2 meals a day and fast 18 hours a day as I am simply never hungry.
the roots go back to basic materialism as individuals we can each of us, one by one, overthrow the power which enables the very existence of such self-destructive behaviour an individual cannot free themself from an oppressor, necessarily, but if an individual sets an example and frees themselves from themselves, an intelligent oppressor will automatically learn from them and free themselves from themselves - and thus will cease to oppress the oppressed - and that is a fact. as you know it's very easy to move rapidly away from the bad way of living all too many humans have the escape, as in your case, happens for the individual, and isn't part of any 'team' or 'group' action. corbyn spread a lot of 'socialism' - but not a lot of people became vegetarian 'because of him' - and yet the change to humanity his aims espouse are more likely to happen by people becoming 'like corbyn' than by voting for him. like corbyn really is, obviously, rather than like what some or more of you fellas out there, with no evidence just personal tribal hate, claim he "is like". of course the bad news is people won't change unless there's a disaster, and the 2019 one was apparently not big enough to properly jolt them - so things will worsen and a much worse disaster than 2019 will happen and will change the situ.
Similar to you, I packed up all processed junk food and sugar. Lost a couple of stone, but my weight loss stopped. I then started eating only twice a day (12 midday, and 5pm) and my weight is still going down. I don't feel hungry and feel better too. So glad my Doctor refused to give me weight loss drugs.
Similar story here, the intermittent fasting really helps and I really notice my joints reacting when I have more than a very small amount of sugar in my diet or too many carbs.
I work on the checkout at TESCOS. The slew of ultra processed food that crosses my checkout every day is sickening. Sickening me to look at and the consumers when they eat it. This video is 100% right. I am vegan and keto and have reversed Diabetes type 2 - which was diagnosed 3 1/2 years ago. Now I do not crave any of the things that are bad for me and have lost 15kg. I only eat one substantial meal a day plus some healthy snacks. I do spend significantly more on food than most people seem to and also a significant amount of time and effort on sourcing and preparing what I do eat. This can be done. But I doubt most people have the time and money to do this. And drug companies have every motivation to sell them drugs and tell them that will work. The idea of focussing on wellness rather than illness in out 'reformed' NHS is sound. But I am deeply sceptical.
@andrewmallory3854 as a shopper I am gobsmacked by how much processed beige crap food people can fit into one trolley. What really annoys me is how people abdicate any responsibility on the junk they shovel down and will happily pop any pill so as long as they don’t have to do and work or make any changes to diet or lifestyle
100% agree with you. One of the obvious problems of Ozempic that occurs to me is that if you're taking it then by definition you are dependent on it forever. The very reason you're taking it is because you lack the faculties (impulse control, self discipline) to lose weight without it and so as soon as you stop taking it you will put weight back on again. All big pharmas Christmases come at once to get half the population hooked on this product.
Weight control/gain is much more complicated than, 'some folks have no will power'. But you're more right than you think - a study of ozempic where people were taught healthy eating etc while they were on it still put the weight back on when they stopped taking it
That's not true. It's nowt to do with willpower. It's metabolism. Some dieters "plateau" very quickly. Their bodies are designed by genetics to hold on to weight. That's the problem. The real "weight-loss drug" would be to genetically reprogram us! 🙂
@@oneoflokis I'm sorry but the metabolism argument is, and always has been, a massive cope. While I accept we all are built differently and we have our own unique metabolisms - and I accept there will be a small minority who have real medical conditions that require pharmacological interventions such as Ozempic, our bodies are designed to consume energy in order to stay alive. Unless you believe we can sustain ourselves on air alone, it's obvious that if you cut the calories you eat down to less than what you use, the body simply has no choice but to start consuming itself. It may take some people longer than others and be a somewhat demoralising experience to see someone else losing weight much faster than you are, but it will ultimately have the same effect every time.
@goodlookinouthomie1757 Yeah? Balls!! How COME some people can eat "anything they like" (ie, eating "normally", not high protein or keto or anything else - yet they never put on much weight, and are always a "normal" size? And for others, to LOOK at a slice of cake makes them fat? And if they go on a diet, they "plateau" very quickly, hence "dieting makes you fat"? And it's NOT usually because the "normal weight" folks do a lot of sports, or (these days especially) have a very physically demanding job, or anything! Incidentally: nursing is a very physically demanding job, yet I've seen loads of fat nurses! Do your research. (There's not enough on the issue on my view. But one of the more interesting things they found out decades ago, was the difference between white fat and brown fat. The skinnies have a lot more brown fat (thermogenic fat) than white.)
Well, I certainly agree with you on this one. The real problem is that we may re-think health policy all we want to, but that won't make a jot of difference to what Streeting and Starmer have in mind for the NHS.
Nhs is there to provide never ending profits for pharma and the food pyramid they promote is absolutely terrible hence the amount of staff who are overweight. The term prevention is better than the cure used to be commonly used, however less money is to be made if people are educated and enabled to keep themselves fit and healthy. I cook the majority of our food from scratch as I was brought up on home cooked meals so never got a taste for junk food, my two teenagers will eat the odd junk meal if out with friends but prefer real food if there’s the option. Another thing I will mention is how our dentist said she can tell by their teeth the lack of pop and sweets were given as an option, she said she has children who need teeth filling or pulling nearly every six months thanks to the processed high sugar diet.
So grateful to my grandparents especially my nan who taught me how to live healthy including zero waste, always buying whatever she could at the local market from local farmers and preparing meals at home. Cake was served once a week as a special treat on Sunday, diet rich in fruit and vegetables, veggies soups for lunch each day. Back in 80s it was common for working people to have allotments and few chickens as well. I am nearly 47 and never suffered with any physical health problems nor obesity, never been taking any medication apart from 2-3 x course of antibiotics in my lifetime. I tried to do similar things for my children: cook meals at home, grow vegetables, no fizzy drinks. Its Initially difficult to break bad habits but its totally worth it.
@@Wulfuswulferson That's not true at all. I know a woman who is a scientist at a company which produces sweeteners and she will not allow them in her house or for her kids
@@Wulfuswulferson A study of 40,000+ people in France in 2022 showed that sweeteners seem to increase the chance of heart disease and stroke. Further studies are being conducted as, if true, this would be a concern. I too read the scientific literature. Best to avoid sugar and sweeteners as much as you are able to, or indeed, want to.
I have type 2 diabetes I would not wish it on anybody. I can control things by being low carb. It is very expensive. No rice. No pasta, No bread. Now let us think about what you can afford to eat if you have no money. The NHS does not need my tax money flowing out the door to buy these drugs. It needs a sugar tax.
I'm with you on UPF. It's an area I've genuinely considered becoming an activist in or even retraining to become a specialist in. I view our current food environment as extremely commerciagenic, and this is the fundamental mechanism of harm. Having listened to doctors who are specialists in diabetes, I'm convinced these drugs could be lifelines for certain individuals (in combination with long term support to allow other changes to me made). However, I think this will be a very small population for whom the side effects balance as being less dangerous than their health condition. Side effects are part of every single medical treatment, and in all cases should be properly weighed against the risk of negative outcomes without that treatment. But with time pressures on doctors, a fat phobic culture which blames the patient for their health, and a hype culture around literal medication we end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater whenever a "miracle" drug comea along.
I think you’ll find it’s a bit more complicated than that, Richard. You’re not simply battling big pharma and/or big foodie. You’re also up against most people’s perniciously short time horizon. If you did give them money to buy better food, they would undoubtedly spend it on other unwise choices. If your wife is a GP, I’d urge you to try and sit in on just one clinic with her - or if not, find one of her colleagues who can arrange this for you. I guarantee that by the end of the clinic (probably 20+ patients) you’ll have almost lost the will to live. “A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world..”
Yes, we need Ozempic et al. At 82 I'm horrified at how fat our people are now. After smoking it is the greatest drag on our health. But this also need a ban on Transfats, sugars, excess salts & more exercise with a switch to more veg, fruit & healthy foods.
Imagine if our NHS was genuinely dedicated to excellence in medicine and genuinely part of the state, pharmaceutical research, surgical technology and research and development. All this as well as treating the people. A true National Heath Service, a healthy population and an export boom in medical technology.
The NHS would rarely prescribe this, it was only really on a private script. The reason? The very dangerous side-effects. It would be interesting to see if local doctors suddenly start prescribing now.
Diseases of poverty and dietary misinformation. As an educational psychologist, I am concerned that *some* asd and adhd is also the result of poverty and dietary misinformation. Poisoned adults, poisoned children.
If we were able to tax UPFs and subsidise raw and minimally processed foods, we would end up eating food with a shorter lifespan. This would re-invigorate local businesses involved in food such as cafe's, bakeries, butchers, some local processing and packaging. It could play its part in restoring our high streets as the prices of these services become more affordable and less middle-class.
Theres also the phenomenon of so called comfort eating, where people eat just to make themselves feel better when encountering problems in their lives. They have little influence over the root cause of the problems they face but try and compensate by eating solely to make themselves feel a little better.
Others are easily solved ,dementia is different there's many ways in can be caused , injury , industrial .and the food we eat and what those enzymes do when you are asleep . Until the future when we can have brain mesh to put in false memories, the cost of the dementia drugs will be costly . There are villages for dementia patients ,some it won't work ,I've worked with dementia patients and there's nothing there ,they are empty vessels so that would not be a option . But your right Richard if you cure something ,there's no profit .
So Semiglutide is a GLP1 peptide with a longer lifetime in the body. Microdosing does remove the hunger signal without the gut slowing symptoms. It also allows you to diet successfully without the need to stay on the treatment after you reach your target weight. Also if you know you are starving yourself you can switch to a high protein supplement to prevent muscle loss. The larger the population on microdosing the larger the drag on junk foods.
Which foods you shovel down your throat is a decision you make. The government shouldn't have to hold your hand and dictate what, how much, or how frequently you eat. Personal responsibility is the key phrase. I never eat fast or ultra-processed food, and anyone else can do the same. And I don't agree that cost is a major factor. Eating healthy food doesn't have to be more expensive than eating junk; that's particularly true if you have to eat more often on a diet of junk. You simply have to be careful about what you buy if you're on a tight budget.
I recently started taking Mounharo. Im 60 and been the same 4.5 stone overweight all my life, literally within 5lbs. I take after my mother, same shape, same weight. She took after her mother. Its hardcto argue genetucs isntvat play abd uts also wrong to say people werent fat in the past. I have tried every diet going and the desire for food everytime becomes overwhelming. Ive worked harder and longer than most, so im not lazy nor ill disciplined. Nor am i stupid. As for exercise, you suggest going for a walk...why do you imagine fat people dont walk? I've 4 dogs, 2 of which are large breeds, i walk a minimum of 5 miles a day, plus strength training exercises, plus yoga. Exercise makes no difference to weight long-term. It has taken me a year of research to start taking it. My parents died of heart attack and stroke, im heading the same way. I would love not to take a medecine, but frankly its a revelation. Unless you have lived with consrant food noise, you have no idea what its like to have that switched off. For me it means that food is not intetesting, so i view porridge and McDonalds breakfast wrap in the same way, fuel, so i may as well have the porridge. Ive been successful in my life, been with the same man all my life till he died, ran a successful, company, law abiding etc etc, but being overweight has overshadowed everything. Its been negative in terms of health obviously, but social occadions, confidence,travel, living life, self image its veen as bad. If doing someore structured resistance training is the price i have to pay, its worth it. In terms of cost, its about 50.00 a month, because i save 100.00 on not eating out and snack foods. Long term, i dont know . Id like to stop once i lose 4 stone. Its a highervrate of success than standard diets, naybe ill ve ok, naybe ill put some back on but not all, thats still a win.
I haven't had any bar a very mild headache on the first day. The figure for diet failure is 95%. For weight loss drugs its 70%. Still not great but better than any other diet.
> in other words whoever you are, it is having some sort of untoward impact on your digestive system most people aren't that great at saying, from one moment to the next, how healthy their insides really are then later you get rectal cancer or whatever and all those symptoms you could have noticed yourself make themselves well noticeable but of course corporate rule means that in the event that anything like this drug you take causes you to get rectal cancer or something - only long after enough of you have definitely had it as well as having taken that drug can anyone even say "well, maybe such a thing can give you cancer" - i mean we can't even speculate without its being something a newspaper would lose money in courts for saying on a grand scale. but as for the nausea and the of course "Serious" side effects (look em up, a lot worse than the nausea "only 20%" of you get) - well - that's something nobody can deny the mental harm/illness caused by removing your appetite with a drug, even if there's a good reason for taking that drug (ie not weightloss), is something we cannot ignore on the whole it is unfortunate that you are a victim but no one here can help you. corporations make the laws.
It’s the STRESS - the unnecessary stress because of multinational corporations and greed.. And yes! Ultra processed food! In the USA we have an idiot presidential candidate talking about EATING cats & dogs INSTEAD OF PROPER NUTRITION.
If someone wishes to take this drug then they can have at it but there's no sane world in which this should be paid for with public money. For the general public to learn some basic virtues like personal responsibility and patience and how to put up with a little discomfort and sacrifice in order to achieve a goal would be a universal benefit in itself.
The social contract has been torn up over the last 40 years. Rights and responsibilities have been replaced by entitlements. Problems are outsourced to public services.
Brilliant and spot on: see 'Ultra-Processed People' by van Tulleken and 'Unprocessed' by Kimberley Wilson. Also 'Bad Pharma' by Dr. Ben Goldacre and 'Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime' by Prof Peter Gotsche, as a start. All the best.
It's not just income. I work in IT and I earn a v.good income as do most of my colleagues. Healthwise we tend to fall into 2 categories. Active, eat well and health conscious or sedentary, eat copious amounts of junk and walking (seated) potential stroke patient.
The only thing they are right about, that too much carbohydrates and too many and high blood glucose spikesare related to mentale disorders, and(!) to cancer. However, I agree with Richard: we need more true food, no ultra-processed garage and less sugar and total (fat-free) carbohydrates
Sorry, but carbohydrates in themselves are not the problem, processed foods are part of the problem along with the excessive amounts of refined sugar they include, but carbohydrates in themselves are not the issue. Type 2 diabetes is caused by fat, the process is well understood by science and has been for decades - basically fat in the blood interferes with the cell's ability to react to insulin, causing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. The high protein keto low-carb diets do not prevent diabetes, that is pseudo-science and there is no evidence to support them, at best they can keep blood sugars low without preventing most of the bad effects of diabetes. A plant based diet high in complex, non-refined carbs and relatively low in fat will actually prevent and in many cases cure type 2 diabetes - at the same time helping the environment because animal farming for food is a major contributor to climate change, the world cannot continue with the current level of consumption of animals if we wish to deal with climate change and habitat destruction.
@@skyblazeeterno indeed we import far too much food and the maun problem is we eat far too much meat which our farmers are happy to produce as it's easy and profitable. Look at any tv programme involving farming and they're obsessed with farm animals rather than healthy veg and fruit crops.
More equality, more disposable cash, preventative health care, fair wages and job conditions....these give people the freedom to make better health choices. Drugs have side effects. Lifestyle changes are required to be healthy
Yes, Ozempic needs to be mandated for overweight people, especially grossly overweight people. Not only are fat people an eyesore, they are self-harming by eating all that excess food.
Richard is correct, though oversimplifying somewhat in order to keep the video short. If you really want to understand the issue of the food epidemic in more detail I recommend reading Ravenous by Henry Dimbleby - He led the UK Government's National Food Stategy which unfortunately I believe was ignored by the then Conservative Government.
Agreed. This is a classic failing of non-logical thinking or non-systems thinking. We eat badly so instead of addressing this we add a further drug. While this drug clearly helps some people the route we are already going down is dependence on these drugs. I think I may have said this before but we should radically reform our tax system so we tax value chains more that create bad effects on society and tax value chains less that are a benefit to society. This would have to be done over time as we agreed scientifically the lists of pros and cons. It would not prevent people having eg food that was bad for health but it would be exorbitant to do so, while good food would be very cheap. We could do similar with various aspects of society.
The elephant in the room with Ozempic is you have to claim you’ve tried dieting as one of the criteria for being prescribed this drug. Then it suppresses your appetite and you lose weight and that kind of debunks your claim that you really tried dieting, doesn’t it? Happy to be corrected on this theory.
Food is plentiful. One only has to look at All-Inclusive resorts to see how greedy people are.. Plus the rise in UPF and the lack of awareness on what is in these ready meals.
I can vouch how damaging fast convenience food is, my diet WAS fast convenience food for about 40 years until I had my heart attack. After my heart attack I went back to a well-rounded diet, my Mom used to feed me as a child, of veg, fruit, nuts, and meat from a local butcher. After I changed to a well-rounded diet, I lost 3 stones in weight in about a year. I also, go for a walk every evening when it’s dry of about 3 miles.
Just recently there was an article that reported a study about exposure to sugar in the first 3 years of life - where the clock starts from conception and includes breastfeeding time. The conclusion was that type 2 diabetes was massively increased by exposure to sugar at this young age. My dad had both diabetes and dementia - my mum was anotexic for much of her life and lived on sugar in tea. Ive been diagnosed with pre-diabetes despite having lived a mostly sugar free life for the last 40 years. Im terrified of ending up like my dad. The study i mentioned compared children born during rationing and choldren born after it ended in 1953/4 (cant recall which) I agree that medicalising the consequences of lifestyle choices is annoying but it could be that these choices were made for us well before we were in any position to have agency. Anyway - see if you can find the article / study. Im happy to take any pill that keeps my brain working and stops me having diabetes II - Already have 3 ot of 5 siblings with type 2 diabetes...
This is another reason why GDP is a terrible measure of economic success. We should have neither overconsumption of food nor the drugs required to treat the consequences. GDP would fall but we would be better off.
As someone who had a job where I was lucky to have time to go to the toilet and make a cup of tea durning my work day grabbing a sandwich because I was hungry then ended up binging after work is I advocate more time for food.
Well we have the sugar tax which has had the side effects of adding more sweetener into our diets which might not be so great. So the question is what policies will help reduce processed foods. How can be move people away from convenience foods.
Western medicine is really very limited. Many chronic health conditions exist precisely because of this fact. It's why alternative traditions like Chinese medicine are now thriving
I had a look at the first website for organic food that came up on my browser, Abel & Cole came up and omg the prices! There is no chance of eating optimum healthy in this rat run world.
It will compound the problem with another set of problems. The rise of Type 2 seems to have gone hand in hand with the rise of artificial sweeteners in foodstuffs and hidden high fructose corn syrup. it may be coincidental but the time line tracks perfectly.
yeah no disrespect that is a very middle class way of looking at the world. Try working a 12 hour shift and then coming home to 3 screaming kids and " taking more effort in the kitchen." The world does not facilitate " takes more effort in the kitchen." cos it requires 2 people to work full time to meet the rent or the mortgage
@piccalillipit9211 Guilty, but I've worked 12 hour shifts and had three home cooked meals. It takes organisation and preparation. It all comes back to priorities and investing a little bit more effort on Sunday evening before the 12 hour shift on Monday. Some would prefer to scroll on TikTok or watch Netflix with a beer instead.
Good video and I concur with the essence of your argument but I am not convinced about the figures on savings to the NHS; as if people don't die early from diabetes etc they will simply use the NHS later in life thereby reducing or negating any savings, they will also live longer and thereby incur more pension costs. Productivity could certainly be boosted though as people would be fitter during their working life.
Ultra processed is a vague term. I think there must be specific ingredients or processes such as sugar and white bread. I heard recently that children raised on high sugar diet end up with much higher incidence of diabetes. when older.
Ivermectin seems to be a more interesting drug. The fact that big pharma are trying to ignore it makes it interesting. You can make mayonnaise with olive oil. Try buying mayonnaise without rapeseed oil.
I don't think it is either, or but both. The scale of the problem is so enormous that both immediate and more longer term solutions are needed. I am not sure food companies would be particularly happy as the GPL-1 agonists do reduce total consumption in substantial way which means less sales/profits. I think the just change your lifestyle suggestion (just go out for a walk and eat properly) doesn't understand how challenging it is to lose weight, this advice is given by every GP and practically no one does it at all or can stick it for any meaningful length of time. The Liraglutide patent expired or expires depending on region and cheap generics will available this year, the rest will expire 2030. The long term risks of the drugs do need to monitored but losing some muscles mass compared to the host of dying or chronic conditions from being obese seems reasonable. They may very well free up the resources and budget needed to address the longer term solutions. I think ultra processed foods do need a smoking style health education campaign rather than just limiting ads.
Having walkable cities would help as well. But credible people have suggested that ultra processed food brakes fundamentally changes the bodies set value for B.M.I. it seems unlikely, to me,that diet and exercise alone will resolve this condition for those that have already been prayed upon.
Interesting. Nutrition doesn't seem to feature enough in the health service and of course it's crucial to normal functioning to have good balanced nutrition, and adequate vitamins and minerals. I started looking into our vitamin intake during the pandemic, adjusted our vegy diet a bit, well quite a lot in fact. Of course it's presumed most people in the northern hemisphere are low in vitamin D and should take supplements. Older people don't metabolise VitD so effectively so probably need supplements even if they get plenty of outdoor sunshine time. No doubt obesity is also due to lack of exercise as well as less healthy 'food'. It takes time to cook really healthy meals from scratch, something many people don't have in time or energy to do that. Healthier food is also in the main more expensive, loads of fresh(ish) veg and fruit, nuts etc, good quality, can be a huge barrier for people. I always think when I see fit, usually younger skinny people, jogging or running with their fancy gear on, why not just do a bit of veg growing, help an old lady dig her overgrown garden, or get a brush and sweep away damn leaves we are all prone to slipping on in the streets! Yes yes my son says I'm a getting to sound like a Karen, I don't care, and what are they running from or towards anyway! :-)
@@Hickalumi think you are thinking of private health care. The NHS controls drug prices. That’s why the US attacks it with propaganda. As I have just said the NHS offers many back up services for mental health advice, counseling and diet, and nutrition advice. Even gym membership for some people. You do it an injustice. Are you American?
@ ; Well … I hope you or yours never need help for mental illness. The first thing they do is fill you full of drugs. And if that doesn’t work they fill you full of different drugs.
@ I can’t see your comment, only the top line of it in ‘notifications’. And I can’t see my original comment in ‘comments’ either. Completely gone. This is the YT world we live in now - probably thanks to lefty, hurty-feeling censorship junkies like you. Don’t get mad, I’m only guessing. I’m sure you are not like that really.
I agree. It's not new. Govt makes the wrong choices until there's no choice -it is frustrating. I'll be unpopular but it's also about time people took responsibility for their health. UPF is not cheap by any measure. Given the state of state finances, maybe we should refuse to treat people with drugs when lifestyle choices can solve it. It's anti-social to expect society to sponsor a bad lifestyle. Sorry but most people affected do have a choice. As you say, go for a walk and take control of your life. It'll make you feel some self esteem too. (The issue is also depression driven...) Apologies if I upset anyone but we can't just point the finger at govt and always blame them for our bad habits. We're not victims... On a planetary scale, we're lucky.
*NO - WE NEED LAWS OVER FOOD* Every single family in the UK should get a box of basic food ingredients every week and cooking instructions delivered to their door and it should be paid for by a tax on unhealthy processed food...!!! The UK was the heathiest it has ever been at the end of rationing.
Crikey and what is basic. Rationing was not healthy, people lacked adequate nutrition, many were undernourished, unless well off and could buy more on the side! The effects of inadequate nutrition has a knock on effect for the offspring, in terms of bad health outcomes. It's a myth that 'rationing' was good for people, it was not, people were very skinny then because they were half starved!
The major issue with GLP-1/GIP agonists is the cost and the fact nations themselves haven't funded this research collectively. Now you find the US paying $1000+ for a four week shot that research has shown costs less than $5 to manufacture. Yes, we should all be able to afford healthier food and the stuff in the supermarkets should be controlled better and its nutritional quality beefed up. We haven't evolved that much beyond our hunter gather natures where an abundance of calories is a good thing because our bodies are built to store it for times of famine. I have no major issue with these meds if it can help break that toxic relationship with food whilst the food itself that is available to the poorest in society is improved. There is a law in the US which may well drive the global cost down as they can essentially "steal" the research. Its happened before and prices plummeted. Currently a governor is refusing to fund the purchase of these drugs and is thinking of doing just that.
And it all started in the UK, about the sane time as the lady politician who, in a former career, helped devise the method by which more air was whipped into ice-cream.The early 1960s. Who remembers the mass advertising from that period in respect of "Convenience" foods . . .a particular frozen pea product comes to mind and an all -purpose chocolate bar with a celestial provenance. Now there's a idea. More air whipped into product. Ultra-processed food manufacturers would reduce costs, prices would remain same, profits would rise and calorie intake of the population would decline. Virtuous circle ? How could the mass food processors complain or Weasley's career prospects be compromised? And bone-idle, moronic consumers wouldn't have to do anything . . Business as usual. Insufficient exercise is an issue as well.. I remember, as school kid, walking on average 25 miles a week, too and from school (Coming home for lunch), sports afternoons once a week, gym twice a week, after school football, weekend activities and I wasn't considered particularly active for that time. Now, the little darlings are delivered to and collected from school by mum's car, sit behind a computer ot TV screen at school and at home and brainwashed mum hoses them, incessantly, for convenience, with ultra-processed long-term health damaging food. Something must be done. The current situation is HG Wells Time Machine made real., Starting off with a grass-roots health education campaign, . . 'cause Weasley won't do it . . .I'm thinking Banksey . . and image of a mum pushing a ultra-processed slim-line, ready-to-eat,, sausage product through the galvanised steel picket fence of a school and the child recipient on the other side crossing his arms in front of his face with the universal "No-go" symbol . . and perhaps the caption line . . . "Just say no" And perhaps Mary Berry, or similar coud run a series of food programmes on TV teaching everybody how to prepare simple, nutricous food from fresh ingredients . . you can tell I'm still of the generation that can remember mum, in the late 1950s, shelling fresh peas pods, in prepration for a meal. And again, perhaps the Chancellorette can join in the fun by imposing a health tax on supermarket trayed, frozen and canned prepared meals with the revenue "Ring-fenced" to address the problem.
Since I have been reducing my intake of processed foods over the past few years, I have consistently felt better and have more energy. I don't think unprocessed food is more expensive either. Fresh vegetables aren't expensive if you compare them with processed food. But you do have to cook vegetables.
The connection with humans and a quick fix is the problem anything where are you got to do exercise change your diet is problematic to most people so they are more likely to accept the quick fix the pharmaceutical drug, so they can keep consuming, but this would lose than the weight without doing anything without achieving anything
@@tlangdon12 Yes, but when you express an opinion outside of one's field, and that view is contrary to established knowledge, it requires more than assertion to command interest- evidence would be good. (extraordinary theories require extraordinary evidence...). Yes, it would be nice if everyone acted in their own self-interest, with a future plan in mind- but that does not happen. People become obese, threatening their health, and ability to work. In a society where these 'failing' citizens are supported by the rest, it is everyone's problem. The solution to date has been to staple their stomach, so over eating causes pain and discomfort. Pumping them with drugs is perhaps simpler and cheaper. Any danger is their consequence. IMHO the culprit of most ill health is sugar, in particular fructose. It is now understood that this is the primary cause of heart disease, and obesity (due to the calorie count). How ya gonna do that? People are not rational, and do not behave rationally. That they buy lottery tickets is a clear proof of that.
Turn the picture off and just listen to his deranged ramblings. There’s nothing to see anyway. Meanwhile back to the subject … YOU told my parents they must give me the needle. THEY don’t know any better. They don’t have the tin foil hats. So they gave me the needle. NOW I’m on PIP - Now and forever. You TOLD them to give me the needle … They gave me the needle … Now you pay my PIP. And no more f’ing needles for me thank you.
We do need drugs. Lots of them 😉 But on a serious note. This ideology is idealistic. Massive societal shifts are very rare and highly unlickly. These drugs provide some benefits that, yes, do not address the root causes but do address the symptoms, and that's all we will get in this society, unfortunately.
The answer to getting from where you live in Lincolnshire(?) to Sheffield isn't a polluting, noisy, expensive car which the big motor manufacturers 'conned' us into thinking we needed, it is to use pre-industrialisation 'natural' methods - walking or a horse and carriage. Good luck with weaning the public off their expensive, environment damaging cars. In the sphere of health traditional approaches to weight loss have by and large failed. Sadly, once people have become overweight or obese as a result of myriad reasons from episodes of physical or mental ill-health or adverse life circumstances or being 'conned' by the food industry, their metabolism is damaged. Any attempt to lose weight even if successful triggers the body to reverse that weight loss, because our biology and genetics are adapted to do that and not adapted to a hyper-abundance of food and especially Ultra Processed Food. We have a health emergency/crisis akin to the climate crisis, which in the case of food and health has been 40+ years in the making. We are where we are and traditional approaches to weight loss have failed. A high tech solution MAY be the only answer to the hole we have dug or eaten our way into. The evidence suggests that the GLP-1 agonists like semaglutide/Wegovy also, independent of weight, slash heart attacks, strokes and dementia by at least a third from day one - that may save the NHS; itself currently sick and on the brink of needing the Intensive Care Unit where often very powerful drugs have to be used to save the patient. It is not as simple as you suggest Professor Murphy.
YOU told my parents they must give me the needle. THEY don’t know any better. They don’t have the tin foil hats. So they gave me the needle. NOW I’m on PIP - Now and forever. You TOLD them to give me the needle … They gave me the needle … NOW YOU PAY MY PIP.
You're right, Richard, but neglect the major point that the food addicts you mention want an easy solution. They don't want to do the hard yards. Like any addict, most aren't brave enough to confront the reason why they are addicted to food. Low self-esteem, adverse childhood experiences and often fatal character flaws such as laziness, poor organisation skills, impulsiveness and inattention. An injection is far preferable to an honest look in the mirror.
Crikey I hope you don't work with vulnerable people, or people forced into poverty at all, or those who may suffer from depression or anything that impacts their ability to do the 'hard yards'. Jeezo.
@SaveEarthPlsBeKind There is no kindness in pretending people have no agency and exist at the whims of their environment. People get dealt terrible card at birth. You either make the best of a bad hand or you fold and too many people fold because they are too scared to try and fail.
You do realise in today's working environment, the majority of people are working very long, servant like hours and are provided little time for self care. Lunch breaks are almost a thing of the past. Many are simply exhausted when they get home and their life energy is drained. It's all too easy to reach for the quick fix meal when you're exhausted. I think our chronic, always pressured work lives are actually killing us.
@marianhunt8899 I worked 60 hour weeks and ate only home cooked food for my 3 meals a day. It just involved investing time in preparing batch meals at the weekend to be eaten during the week. However, people feel that spending an hour cooking future meals is too much of a burden. Absolutely no way their mental health can cope with 1 hour less to decompress on TikTok or Netflix.
Short cuts can be very helpful. After losing weight people may find it easier to stay healthy. Physical exercise becomes a lot easier. Fundamentally we have to see obesity as a symptom and look at the underlying causes.
Very well said. The other problem you didn’t mention with the use of the ultra processed foods is they are all extremely high in carbohydrates which causes raised insulin. Continual eating causes not just your glucose to spike but your insulin too. Having a constantly high insulin is what causes the other hormones to go out of balance which adds to the cravings to eat. Ozempic is a dangerous drug which one would have to be on for life. Stopping taking the drug the weight comes back on unless the diet has been drastically changed and there are also gastric problems for some. Reduce the junk food, ultra processed food, and the carbohydrates. Say NO to the drug.
Spot on. The healthiest UK generation ever were those who were children during the Second World War. They grew up when most of the harmful foods were either rationed or not available at all. Meat and fats were also rationed and the only way to get a full belly was to fill up with tatties, and cruciferous veggies. I read recently that longevity had peaked and is now falling again. I suspect that's because that war time generation has pretty much gone now. The reliance on wonder drugs is a symptom of society's sickness. It's certainly not a cure for it.
I benefited from the ww2 diet. Even though I wasn't born until 58. Mu mother learned to cook during the war and she could make fantastic stews and soups from the scraps and cheap cuts from the butcher. Another thing that's changed is there are no longer opportunities to buy offal, the tastiest part of the ananimal, to protect us from ourselves.
@@therealrobertbirchall there is another way. In Italy there are cantinas which serve a set menu at a reasonable price. There business model is often based on a subscription or membership. This is more expensive than cooking at home, but a hot home cooked meal for €5 is very reasonable.
Some cantinas also offer meals in exchange for work. So if you work for an hour cleaning you can get a hot meal.
Another thing that has led to the explosion of consumption of ultra processed food is the modern working environment with 30 minute lunch breaks in a 9 hour working day the norm meaning that if the worker wants to eat they have to eat something that is very quick to reheat or can be eaten cold
and the fact it takes 2 people working full time to make the rent or the mortguage
@@piccalillipit9211 The hallmark of a failed economic model.
@@howardosborne8647 Absolutely. I live in the EU's "poorest" country - Bulgaria. But the average working class family has 2 kids on one salary in their mid 20's.
So which country is REALLY poor...?
@@piccalillipit9211 when 1 % get richer and richer ,ofc u gona need to work more for less....
wage slavery was always a bad idea. chomsky has said and written a lot about it. worth reading/watching/finding
Our governments are too dependent on large businesses for their rise to power. You don't bite the hand that feeds you! A party that challenged the status quo would not get anywhere near the levers of power needed to effect change. Lack of funding and negative press coverage would see to that.
Indeed. A pretence at democracy.
Governments first of all depend upon the electorate and nothing else. Only when the electorate is as ignorant as it is, it gives the large businesses the opportunity to fill the gap.
In the economic crisis of 2008 those powerful people were named "the 1%".
In an election, 1% is nothing. It just needs the 99% to realize.
Just look what happened to Jeremy Corbyn.
Like the Greens?
100% agree. Government in hock to big pharma and fast food and food and drink corporations.
Corporations are modern nobles. With a lot more control than nobles ever had.
I have my shares in big pharma and get a very good dividend thank you very much.
Much owned by Big Tobacco 😮
@vinniep01 better own your share of the problem then.
Don't buy fast food, nobody is forcing anyone to eat crap or drink syrup. Do you agree with that 100%?
Why not admit it, the problem is politicians who are captured by commercial interests. Who really runs any country?
surely in this instance the problem is one of sheer stupidity. i mean what kind of a cretin would do such a thing. surely someone whose intelligence should never qualify them to even be the manager of a small fastfood shop, let alone a "secretary of state"
we have MPs to make sure nobody in power ever does anything as stupid as this thing. why isn't he working in a circus or a leisure centre? it's his calling.
Mercantile corporations hide their nefarious schemes behind 'we're all in this together' marketing; we're not, we're dying, and they're profiteering. The government needs to grow some and not be run by the also nefarious bond market (that with fiat doesn't even need to exist). Now, back to my plastic-contaminated coffee and corn/nut oil-saturated foodstuffs.
you mean like capitalism
We live in an economy, not a society. What a horrible reality.
We really do need a slow food revolution. Better paid so we don't have to work long hours or more than one job, and the time to cook and enjoy real unprocessed food.
I often wonder though, if everyone got conscientious about their diet all of a sudden, would the fresh vegetables and meat that I live on go up in price due to demand. Maybe I'm happy to let the stupid masses keep stuffing their faces with processed crap actually.
I worked 60 hour weeks and still had home cooked meals every single day. It's a matter of priorities and sadly people would rather spend their time on TikTok and Netflix than learning how to prepare and cook their own meals.
I spend 45 mins a day on food preparation. Not much is it.
We would have to import that food as we are net importer
I of course agree and chose at the age of 16 to stop eating meat whilst eating a bacon sandwich during my break at my Saturday job at Bedford pig market. The point being that yes good government has a responsibility to facilitate the education of citizens but when it fails to do so we still can choose to make different choices
@@pythonquark We consume home grown fruit and vegetables for nine months of the year. They are much higher quality and varied than anything you can buy, In a good year we also provide them as a gift for three or four families. It is hard for young families to spend the time needed, which is much more than you might imagine, but it quite feasible to have home cooked meals, as you write.
Another great video. More people are talking about this now. There are so many factors that are affecting our health. Mental health, job security, financial worries, obesity. These are wholistic and the solutions to these problems by government and industry sound too scary. We need a proper solution.
How right you are, again. Oh for a government that stands up for the right approach rather than bowing down to big business. Thank you. Best wishes. Al.
The influence of big business and wealth is everywhere and growing. We see it with their control over the media and the messaging that it puts out. As Richard points out, we see it in the pharmaceutical and food industry. It is there in our politics and I think that their influence was there in Labour's budget last week. It is there driving populism and the denigration of democracy etc etc. For more on this, Grace Blakeley's book "Vulture Capitalism" and "The Invisible Doctrine" by George Monbiot are worth a read.
Also 'Crack-Up Capitalism' by Slobodian. Although, to be fair, Rees-Mogg and Davidson reveal how anti-democratic and fundamentally immoral neoliberalism is in their book; 'The Sovereign Individual'. All the best.
If these people stopped eating ultra processed foods they would not need these drugs. I stopped eating these foods over 6 years ago and have never looked back. I ate very low carb for about 4 years to get my metabolism back to health, but now can eat all non ultra processed foods including carbs without gaining weight. I eat 2 meals a day and fast 18 hours a day as I am simply never hungry.
the roots go back to basic materialism
as individuals we can each of us, one by one, overthrow the power which enables the very existence of such self-destructive behaviour
an individual cannot free themself from an oppressor, necessarily, but if an individual sets an example and frees themselves from themselves, an intelligent oppressor will automatically learn from them and free themselves from themselves - and thus will cease to oppress the oppressed - and that is a fact.
as you know it's very easy to move rapidly away from the bad way of living all too many humans have
the escape, as in your case, happens for the individual, and isn't part of any 'team' or 'group' action.
corbyn spread a lot of 'socialism' - but not a lot of people became vegetarian 'because of him' -
and yet the change to humanity his aims espouse are more likely to happen by people becoming 'like corbyn' than by voting for him. like corbyn really is, obviously, rather than like what some or more of you fellas out there, with no evidence just personal tribal hate, claim he "is like".
of course the bad news is people won't change unless there's a disaster, and the 2019 one was apparently not big enough to properly jolt them - so things will worsen and a much worse disaster than 2019 will happen and will change the situ.
Similar to you, I packed up all processed junk food and sugar. Lost a couple of stone, but my weight loss stopped. I then started eating only twice a day (12 midday, and 5pm) and my weight is still going down. I don't feel hungry and feel better too. So glad my Doctor refused to give me weight loss drugs.
Similar story here, the intermittent fasting really helps and I really notice my joints reacting when I have more than a very small amount of sugar in my diet or too many carbs.
I work on the checkout at TESCOS. The slew of ultra processed food that crosses my checkout every day is sickening. Sickening me to look at and the consumers when they eat it. This video is 100% right.
I am vegan and keto and have reversed Diabetes type 2 - which was diagnosed 3 1/2 years ago. Now I do not crave any of the things that are bad for me and have lost 15kg. I only eat one substantial meal a day plus some healthy snacks.
I do spend significantly more on food than most people seem to and also a significant amount of time and effort on sourcing and preparing what I do eat.
This can be done. But I doubt most people have the time and money to do this. And drug companies have every motivation to sell them drugs and tell them that will work.
The idea of focussing on wellness rather than illness in out 'reformed' NHS is sound. But I am deeply sceptical.
@andrewmallory3854 as a shopper I am gobsmacked by how much processed beige crap food people can fit into one trolley.
What really annoys me is how people abdicate any responsibility on the junk they shovel down and will happily pop any pill so as long as they don’t have to do and work or make any changes to diet or lifestyle
Typical lazy and erroneous thinking by Govt.
100% agree with you. One of the obvious problems of Ozempic that occurs to me is that if you're taking it then by definition you are dependent on it forever. The very reason you're taking it is because you lack the faculties (impulse control, self discipline) to lose weight without it and so as soon as you stop taking it you will put weight back on again. All big pharmas Christmases come at once to get half the population hooked on this product.
Weight control/gain is much more complicated than, 'some folks have no will power'.
But you're more right than you think - a study of ozempic where people were taught healthy eating etc while they were on it still put the weight back on when they stopped taking it
That's not true. It's nowt to do with willpower. It's metabolism. Some dieters "plateau" very quickly. Their bodies are designed by genetics to hold on to weight. That's the problem. The real "weight-loss drug" would be to genetically reprogram us! 🙂
@@WulfuswulfersonBecause it's their metabolism.
@@oneoflokis I'm sorry but the metabolism argument is, and always has been, a massive cope. While I accept we all are built differently and we have our own unique metabolisms - and I accept there will be a small minority who have real medical conditions that require pharmacological interventions such as Ozempic, our bodies are designed to consume energy in order to stay alive.
Unless you believe we can sustain ourselves on air alone, it's obvious that if you cut the calories you eat down to less than what you use, the body simply has no choice but to start consuming itself. It may take some people longer than others and be a somewhat demoralising experience to see someone else losing weight much faster than you are, but it will ultimately have the same effect every time.
@goodlookinouthomie1757 Yeah? Balls!! How COME some people can eat "anything they like" (ie, eating "normally", not high protein or keto or anything else - yet they never put on much weight, and are always a "normal" size? And for others, to LOOK at a slice of cake makes them fat? And if they go on a diet, they "plateau" very quickly, hence "dieting makes you fat"?
And it's NOT usually because the "normal weight" folks do a lot of sports, or (these days especially) have a very physically demanding job, or anything! Incidentally: nursing is a very physically demanding job, yet I've seen loads of fat nurses!
Do your research. (There's not enough on the issue on my view. But one of the more interesting things they found out decades ago, was the difference between white fat and brown fat. The skinnies have a lot more brown fat (thermogenic fat) than white.)
Well, I certainly agree with you on this one. The real problem is that we may re-think health policy all we want to, but that won't make a jot of difference to what Streeting and Starmer have in mind for the NHS.
Don't you find it odd that out of the billions the NHS devours every year very very little is used to promote healthy eating and exercise.
Nhs is there to provide never ending profits for pharma and the food pyramid they promote is absolutely terrible hence the amount of staff who are overweight.
The term prevention is better than the cure used to be commonly used, however less money is to be made if people are educated and enabled to keep themselves fit and healthy.
I cook the majority of our food from scratch as I was brought up on home cooked meals so never got a taste for junk food, my two teenagers will eat the odd junk meal if out with friends but prefer real food if there’s the option.
Another thing I will mention is how our dentist said she can tell by their teeth the lack of pop and sweets were given as an option, she said she has children who need teeth filling or pulling nearly every six months thanks to the processed high sugar diet.
So grateful to my grandparents especially my nan who taught me how to live healthy including zero waste, always buying whatever she could at the local market from local farmers and preparing meals at home. Cake was served once a week as a special treat on Sunday, diet rich in fruit and vegetables, veggies soups for lunch each day. Back in 80s it was common for working people to have allotments and few chickens as well. I am nearly 47 and never suffered with any physical health problems nor obesity, never been taking any medication apart from 2-3 x course of antibiotics in my lifetime. I tried to do similar things for my children: cook meals at home, grow vegetables, no fizzy drinks. Its Initially difficult to break bad habits but its totally worth it.
Sugar is a killer, and so are the artificial sweeteners. Real food is the solution, junk the junk.
Sweeteners are by the most tested substance in food world, they are safe, proven so over and over again
@@Wulfuswulferson That's not true at all. I know a woman who is a scientist at a company which produces sweeteners and she will not allow them in her house or for her kids
@Phil-n7c I'll take the scientific literature over one person's opinion
@@Wulfuswulferson A study of 40,000+ people in France in 2022 showed that sweeteners seem to increase the chance of heart disease and stroke. Further studies are being conducted as, if true, this would be a concern. I too read the scientific literature. Best to avoid sugar and sweeteners as much as you are able to, or indeed, want to.
@strandedstarfish got a link? Yeah agreed, avoid them and the food they're in
I have type 2 diabetes I would not wish it on anybody. I can control things by being low carb. It is very expensive. No rice. No pasta, No bread. Now let us think about what you can afford to eat if you have no money. The NHS does not need my tax money flowing out the door to buy these drugs. It needs a sugar tax.
There are plenty of low cost, healthy foods available. Dried pulses and seasonal veg are what the majority of the world's population eats every day.
I'm with you on UPF. It's an area I've genuinely considered becoming an activist in or even retraining to become a specialist in. I view our current food environment as extremely commerciagenic, and this is the fundamental mechanism of harm.
Having listened to doctors who are specialists in diabetes, I'm convinced these drugs could be lifelines for certain individuals (in combination with long term support to allow other changes to me made). However, I think this will be a very small population for whom the side effects balance as being less dangerous than their health condition.
Side effects are part of every single medical treatment, and in all cases should be properly weighed against the risk of negative outcomes without that treatment. But with time pressures on doctors, a fat phobic culture which blames the patient for their health, and a hype culture around literal medication we end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater whenever a "miracle" drug comea along.
I think you’ll find it’s a bit more complicated than that, Richard. You’re not simply battling big pharma and/or big foodie. You’re also up against most people’s perniciously short time horizon. If you did give them money to buy better food, they would undoubtedly spend it on other unwise choices. If your wife is a GP, I’d urge you to try and sit in on just one clinic with her - or if not, find one of her colleagues who can arrange this for you. I guarantee that by the end of the clinic (probably 20+ patients) you’ll have almost lost the will to live.
“A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world..”
To be approved the new obesity drugs should have long trials on MPs and Members of the House of Lords, to ensure their safety and effectiveness.
I don’t believe in cobblers either. The answer is not drugs, but a better, healthier life for more people.
Well said.
Yes, we need Ozempic et al. At 82 I'm horrified at how fat our people are now. After smoking it is the greatest drag on our health. But this also need a ban on Transfats, sugars, excess salts & more exercise with a switch to more veg, fruit & healthy foods.
Imagine if our NHS was genuinely dedicated to excellence in medicine and genuinely part of the state, pharmaceutical research, surgical technology and research and development. All this as well as treating the people. A true National Heath Service, a healthy population and an export boom in medical technology.
Diabetes UK report that wegovy can make diabetic retinopathy worse.
lockdown for corporations is the first step to eliminating diabetes, obesity and much cancer
The NHS would rarely prescribe this, it was only really on a private script. The reason? The very dangerous side-effects. It would be interesting to see if local doctors suddenly start prescribing now.
Diseases of poverty and dietary misinformation. As an educational psychologist, I am concerned that *some* asd and adhd is also the result of poverty and dietary misinformation. Poisoned adults, poisoned children.
If we were able to tax UPFs and subsidise raw and minimally processed foods, we would end up eating food with a shorter lifespan. This would re-invigorate local businesses involved in food such as cafe's, bakeries, butchers, some local processing and packaging. It could play its part in restoring our high streets as the prices of these services become more affordable and less middle-class.
Theres also the phenomenon of so called comfort eating, where people eat just to make themselves feel better when encountering problems in their lives. They have little influence over the root cause of the problems they face but try and compensate by eating solely to make themselves feel a little better.
Well said Richard!
Others are easily solved ,dementia is different there's many ways in can be caused , injury , industrial .and the food we eat and what those enzymes do when you are asleep .
Until the future when we can have brain mesh to put in false memories, the cost of the dementia drugs will be costly .
There are villages for dementia patients ,some it won't work ,I've worked with dementia patients and there's nothing there ,they are empty vessels so that would not be a option .
But your right Richard if you cure something ,there's no profit .
Best thing you've ever said!
To have workers requires a healthy population. To have a healthy population requires a happy household. To have a happy household requires a house.
So Semiglutide is a GLP1 peptide with a longer lifetime in the body. Microdosing does remove the hunger signal without the gut slowing symptoms. It also allows you to diet successfully without the need to stay on the treatment after you reach your target weight. Also if you know you are starving yourself you can switch to a high protein supplement to prevent muscle loss. The larger the population on microdosing the larger the drag on junk foods.
Which foods you shovel down your throat is a decision you make. The government shouldn't have to hold your hand and dictate what, how much, or how frequently you eat. Personal responsibility is the key phrase. I never eat fast or ultra-processed food, and anyone else can do the same. And I don't agree that cost is a major factor. Eating healthy food doesn't have to be more expensive than eating junk; that's particularly true if you have to eat more often on a diet of junk. You simply have to be careful about what you buy if you're on a tight budget.
I recently started taking Mounharo. Im 60 and been the same 4.5 stone overweight all my life, literally within 5lbs.
I take after my mother, same shape, same weight. She took after her mother. Its hardcto argue genetucs isntvat play abd uts also wrong to say people werent fat in the past.
I have tried every diet going and the desire for food everytime becomes overwhelming. Ive worked harder and longer than most, so im not lazy nor ill disciplined. Nor am i stupid.
As for exercise, you suggest going for a walk...why do you imagine fat people dont walk? I've 4 dogs, 2 of which are large breeds, i walk a minimum of 5 miles a day, plus strength training exercises, plus yoga. Exercise makes no difference to weight long-term.
It has taken me a year of research to start taking it. My parents died of heart attack and stroke, im heading the same way.
I would love not to take a medecine, but frankly its a revelation. Unless you have lived with consrant food noise, you have no idea what its like to have that switched off.
For me it means that food is not intetesting, so i view porridge and McDonalds breakfast wrap in the same way, fuel, so i may as well have the porridge.
Ive been successful in my life, been with the same man all my life till he died, ran a successful, company, law abiding etc etc, but being overweight has overshadowed everything. Its been negative in terms of health obviously, but social occadions, confidence,travel, living life, self image its veen as bad.
If doing someore structured resistance training is the price i have to pay, its worth it.
In terms of cost, its about 50.00 a month, because i save 100.00 on not eating out and snack foods.
Long term, i dont know . Id like to stop once i lose 4 stone. Its a highervrate of success than standard diets, naybe ill ve ok, naybe ill put some back on but not all, thats still a win.
weight returns when the patient stops taking it
the drug also has awful side effects
I haven't had any bar a very mild headache on the first day.
The figure for diet failure is 95%. For weight loss drugs its 70%. Still not great but better than any other diet.
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in other words whoever you are, it is having some sort of untoward impact on your digestive system
most people aren't that great at saying, from one moment to the next, how healthy their insides really are
then later you get rectal cancer or whatever and all those symptoms you could have noticed yourself make themselves well noticeable
but of course corporate rule means that in the event that anything like this drug you take causes you to get rectal cancer or something - only long after enough of you have definitely had it as well as having taken that drug can anyone even say "well, maybe such a thing can give you cancer" - i mean we can't even speculate without its being something a newspaper would lose money in courts for saying on a grand scale.
but as for the nausea and the of course "Serious" side effects (look em up, a lot worse than the nausea "only 20%" of you get) - well - that's something nobody can deny
the mental harm/illness caused by removing your appetite with a drug, even if there's a good reason for taking that drug (ie not weightloss), is something we cannot ignore
on the whole it is unfortunate that you are a victim but no one here can help you. corporations make the laws.
It’s the STRESS - the unnecessary stress because of multinational corporations and greed..
And yes! Ultra processed food!
In the USA we have an idiot presidential candidate talking about EATING cats & dogs INSTEAD OF PROPER NUTRITION.
If someone wishes to take this drug then they can have at it but there's no sane world in which this should be paid for with public money. For the general public to learn some basic virtues like personal responsibility and patience and how to put up with a little discomfort and sacrifice in order to achieve a goal would be a universal benefit in itself.
The social contract has been torn up over the last 40 years. Rights and responsibilities have been replaced by entitlements.
Problems are outsourced to public services.
Fun fact: Milk is an ultra processed food. It is grass that has been through a factory we call a cow!
Brilliant and spot on: see 'Ultra-Processed People' by van Tulleken and 'Unprocessed' by Kimberley Wilson. Also 'Bad Pharma' by Dr. Ben Goldacre and 'Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime' by Prof Peter Gotsche, as a start.
All the best.
It's not just income. I work in IT and I earn a v.good income as do most of my colleagues. Healthwise we tend to fall into 2 categories. Active, eat well and health conscious or sedentary, eat copious amounts of junk and walking (seated) potential stroke patient.
The only thing they are right about, that too much carbohydrates and too many and high blood glucose spikesare related to mentale disorders, and(!) to cancer.
However, I agree with Richard: we need more true food, no ultra-processed garage and less sugar and total (fat-free) carbohydrates
Sorry, but carbohydrates in themselves are not the problem, processed foods are part of the problem along with the excessive amounts of refined sugar they include, but carbohydrates in themselves are not the issue.
Type 2 diabetes is caused by fat, the process is well understood by science and has been for decades - basically fat in the blood interferes with the cell's ability to react to insulin, causing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. The high protein keto low-carb diets do not prevent diabetes, that is pseudo-science and there is no evidence to support them, at best they can keep blood sugars low without preventing most of the bad effects of diabetes.
A plant based diet high in complex, non-refined carbs and relatively low in fat will actually prevent and in many cases cure type 2 diabetes - at the same time helping the environment because animal farming for food is a major contributor to climate change, the world cannot continue with the current level of consumption of animals if we wish to deal with climate change and habitat destruction.
How do we get more "real" food when we are an importer?
@@skyblazeeterno indeed we import far too much food and the maun problem is we eat far too much meat which our farmers are happy to produce as it's easy and profitable. Look at any tv programme involving farming and they're obsessed with farm animals rather than healthy veg and fruit crops.
More equality, more disposable cash, preventative health care, fair wages and job conditions....these give people the freedom to make better health choices.
Drugs have side effects. Lifestyle changes are required to be healthy
Yes, Ozempic needs to be mandated for overweight people, especially grossly overweight people. Not only are fat people an eyesore, they are self-harming by eating all that excess food.
Richard is correct, though oversimplifying somewhat in order to keep the video short. If you really want to understand the issue of the food epidemic in more detail I recommend reading Ravenous by Henry Dimbleby - He led the UK Government's National Food Stategy which unfortunately I believe was ignored by the then Conservative Government.
But Weasely has mates who hold controlling stock.
Agreed. This is a classic failing of non-logical thinking or non-systems thinking. We eat badly so instead of addressing this we add a further drug. While this drug clearly helps some people the route we are already going down is dependence on these drugs. I think I may have said this before but we should radically reform our tax system so we tax value chains more that create bad effects on society and tax value chains less that are a benefit to society. This would have to be done over time as we agreed scientifically the lists of pros and cons. It would not prevent people having eg food that was bad for health but it would be exorbitant to do so, while good food would be very cheap. We could do similar with various aspects of society.
The elephant in the room with Ozempic is you have to claim you’ve tried dieting as one of the criteria for being prescribed this drug. Then it suppresses your appetite and you lose weight and that kind of debunks your claim that you really tried dieting, doesn’t it? Happy to be corrected on this theory.
Food is plentiful. One only has to look at All-Inclusive resorts to see how greedy people are.. Plus the rise in UPF and the lack of awareness on what is in these ready meals.
I can vouch how damaging fast convenience food is, my diet WAS fast convenience food for about 40 years until I had my heart attack. After my heart attack I went back to a well-rounded diet, my Mom used to feed me as a child, of veg, fruit, nuts, and meat from a local butcher. After I changed to a well-rounded diet, I lost 3 stones in weight in about a year. I also, go for a walk every evening when it’s dry of about 3 miles.
Just recently there was an article that reported a study about exposure to sugar in the first 3 years of life - where the clock starts from conception and includes breastfeeding time. The conclusion was that type 2 diabetes was massively increased by exposure to sugar at this young age.
My dad had both diabetes and dementia - my mum was anotexic for much of her life and lived on sugar in tea.
Ive been diagnosed with pre-diabetes despite having lived a mostly sugar free life for the last 40 years. Im terrified of ending up like my dad.
The study i mentioned compared children born during rationing and choldren born after it ended in 1953/4 (cant recall which)
I agree that medicalising the consequences of lifestyle choices is annoying but it could be that these choices were made for us well before we were in any position to have agency.
Anyway - see if you can find the article / study.
Im happy to take any pill that keeps my brain working and stops me having diabetes II - Already have 3 ot of 5 siblings with type 2 diabetes...
Only a politician grasping at straws would champion 'wonder' drugs as a solution to the crisis in the NHS. Very feeble.
100% spot on! It’s all about the money, poorly people means big profit 😢
Btw the exact same thing applies to statins.
People should also exercise more especially if they have a sedentary job Exercise & good diet combined can reverse diabetes.
This is another reason why GDP is a terrible measure of economic success. We should have neither overconsumption of food nor the drugs required to treat the consequences.
GDP would fall but we would be better off.
You don't need ozempic when you have gastroenteritis.
As someone who had a job where I was lucky to have time to go to the toilet and make a cup of tea durning my work day grabbing a sandwich because I was hungry then ended up binging after work is I advocate more time for food.
Well we have the sugar tax which has had the side effects of adding more sweetener into our diets which might not be so great. So the question is what policies will help reduce processed foods. How can be move people away from convenience foods.
The cost of Ozempic is lower than the cost of treating these conditions.
Want to show us your workings?
The cost of not getting these conditions, by simply eating a healthier diet and doing a bit of exercise, is lowest of all.
@ okay so you solved it for everyone! Well done 👍🏻
@@smck001 just asked ChatGPT and it said about £2bn per year potentially.
Western medicine is really very limited. Many chronic health conditions exist precisely because of this fact. It's why alternative traditions like Chinese medicine are now thriving
Just the names for them for some reason are a bit chilling.
I had a look at the first website for organic food that came up on my browser, Abel & Cole came up and omg the prices! There is no chance of eating optimum healthy in this rat run world.
Just pop in to your local shops or supermarket and buy some fresh vegetables and fruit.
It will compound the problem with another set of problems. The rise of Type 2 seems to have gone hand in hand with the rise of artificial sweeteners in foodstuffs and hidden high fructose corn syrup. it may be coincidental but the time line tracks perfectly.
What we need is dietary guidlines that reflect reality, what we have is pretty much a 180 away from that reality.
Even if better foods came around, there's still generations hooked on ultra processed foods. Who will still need treatment.
Well said🙏 I don’t think eating healthy is expensive, it just takes more effort in the kitchen.
Nail on the head. British people are intensely lazy and would prefer an extra hour scrolling or on Netflix than having to learn how to cook.
In some ways it's more expensive. Take minced beef the lower fat versions will be more expensive
It takes time and energy something many (over) worked people don't have.
yeah no disrespect that is a very middle class way of looking at the world. Try working a 12 hour shift and then coming home to 3 screaming kids and " taking more effort in the kitchen."
The world does not facilitate " takes more effort in the kitchen." cos it requires 2 people to work full time to meet the rent or the mortgage
@piccalillipit9211 Guilty, but I've worked 12 hour shifts and had three home cooked meals. It takes organisation and preparation.
It all comes back to priorities and investing a little bit more effort on Sunday evening before the 12 hour shift on Monday. Some would prefer to scroll on TikTok or watch Netflix with a beer instead.
I know what you mean, however lets not confuse or diminish Type 1 Diabetes✌
Good video and I concur with the essence of your argument but I am not convinced about the figures on savings to the NHS; as if people don't die early from diabetes etc they will simply use the NHS later in life thereby reducing or negating any savings, they will also live longer and thereby incur more pension costs. Productivity could certainly be boosted though as people would be fitter during their working life.
Ultra processed is a vague term. I think there must be specific ingredients or processes such as sugar and white bread.
I heard recently that children raised on high sugar diet end up with much higher incidence of diabetes. when older.
Ivermectin seems to be a more interesting drug. The fact that big pharma are trying to ignore it makes it interesting. You can make mayonnaise with olive oil. Try buying mayonnaise without rapeseed oil.
It's the same approach to "problem solving" that carbon capture is.
Yes it deals with the symptom not the cause
I don't think it is either, or but both. The scale of the problem is so enormous that both immediate and more longer term solutions are needed. I am not sure food companies would be particularly happy as the GPL-1 agonists do reduce total consumption in substantial way which means less sales/profits. I think the just change your lifestyle suggestion (just go out for a walk and eat properly) doesn't understand how challenging it is to lose weight, this advice is given by every GP and practically no one does it at all or can stick it for any meaningful length of time. The Liraglutide patent expired or expires depending on region and cheap generics will available this year, the rest will expire 2030. The long term risks of the drugs do need to monitored but losing some muscles mass compared to the host of dying or chronic conditions from being obese seems reasonable. They may very well free up the resources and budget needed to address the longer term solutions. I think ultra processed foods do need a smoking style health education campaign rather than just limiting ads.
Having walkable cities would help as well. But credible people have suggested that ultra processed food brakes fundamentally changes the bodies set value for B.M.I. it seems unlikely, to me,that diet and exercise alone will resolve this condition for those that have already been prayed upon.
Fresh veg, healthy diet and exercise doesn’t come in pill form….
Interesting. Nutrition doesn't seem to feature enough in the health service and of course it's crucial to normal functioning to have good balanced nutrition, and adequate vitamins and minerals. I started looking into our vitamin intake during the pandemic, adjusted our vegy diet a bit, well quite a lot in fact. Of course it's presumed most people in the northern hemisphere are low in vitamin D and should take supplements. Older people don't metabolise VitD so effectively so probably need supplements even if they get plenty of outdoor sunshine time.
No doubt obesity is also due to lack of exercise as well as less healthy 'food'. It takes time to cook really healthy meals from scratch, something many people don't have in time or energy to do that. Healthier food is also in the main more expensive, loads of fresh(ish) veg and fruit, nuts etc, good quality, can be a huge barrier for people.
I always think when I see fit, usually younger skinny people, jogging or running with their fancy gear on, why not just do a bit of veg growing, help an old lady dig her overgrown garden, or get a brush and sweep away damn leaves we are all prone to slipping on in the streets! Yes yes my son says I'm a getting to sound like a Karen, I don't care, and what are they running from or towards anyway! :-)
Absolutely agree. It is crazy that nutrition is not part of the NHS
It’s not a ‘Health’ service … It’s a drug dispensary.
@@Hickalumi think you are thinking of private health care. The NHS controls drug prices. That’s why the US attacks it with propaganda.
As I have just said the NHS offers many back up services for mental health advice, counseling and diet, and nutrition advice. Even gym membership for some people. You do it an injustice. Are you American?
@ ; Well … I hope you or yours never need help for mental illness.
The first thing they do is fill you full of drugs.
And if that doesn’t work they fill you full of different drugs.
@ I can’t see your comment, only the top line of it in ‘notifications’.
And I can’t see my original comment in ‘comments’ either. Completely gone.
This is the YT world we live in now - probably thanks to lefty, hurty-feeling censorship junkies like you. Don’t get mad, I’m only guessing. I’m sure you are not like that really.
Going for a walk isn't going to help anyone.
Going for a walk would help everyone.
I agree. It's not new. Govt makes the wrong choices until there's no choice -it is frustrating. I'll be unpopular but it's also about time people took responsibility for their health. UPF is not cheap by any measure. Given the state of state finances, maybe we should refuse to treat people with drugs when lifestyle choices can solve it. It's anti-social to expect society to sponsor a bad lifestyle. Sorry but most people affected do have a choice. As you say, go for a walk and take control of your life. It'll make you feel some self esteem too. (The issue is also depression driven...) Apologies if I upset anyone but we can't just point the finger at govt and always blame them for our bad habits. We're not victims... On a planetary scale, we're lucky.
They all have some pretty severe side-effects
...and the way we live (survive) makes us mentally ill and guess what there's a tablet for that too!
*NO - WE NEED LAWS OVER FOOD* Every single family in the UK should get a box of basic food ingredients every week and cooking instructions delivered to their door and it should be paid for by a tax on unhealthy processed food...!!!
The UK was the heathiest it has ever been at the end of rationing.
Crikey and what is basic. Rationing was not healthy, people lacked adequate nutrition, many were undernourished, unless well off and could buy more on the side! The effects of inadequate nutrition has a knock on effect for the offspring, in terms of bad health outcomes. It's a myth that 'rationing' was good for people, it was not, people were very skinny then because they were half starved!
Have you just nationalised Go Fresh?
This topic is central to the UK's prosperity you should team up with a doctor to explore this in more detail.
The major issue with GLP-1/GIP agonists is the cost and the fact nations themselves haven't funded this research collectively. Now you find the US paying $1000+ for a four week shot that research has shown costs less than $5 to manufacture.
Yes, we should all be able to afford healthier food and the stuff in the supermarkets should be controlled better and its nutritional quality beefed up. We haven't evolved that much beyond our hunter gather natures where an abundance of calories is a good thing because our bodies are built to store it for times of famine.
I have no major issue with these meds if it can help break that toxic relationship with food whilst the food itself that is available to the poorest in society is improved.
There is a law in the US which may well drive the global cost down as they can essentially "steal" the research. Its happened before and prices plummeted. Currently a governor is refusing to fund the purchase of these drugs and is thinking of doing just that.
And it all started in the UK, about the sane time as the lady politician who, in a former career, helped devise the method by which more air was whipped into ice-cream.The early 1960s. Who remembers the mass advertising from that period in respect of "Convenience" foods . . .a particular frozen pea product comes to mind and an all -purpose chocolate bar with a celestial provenance.
Now there's a idea. More air whipped into product. Ultra-processed food manufacturers would reduce costs, prices would remain same, profits would rise and calorie intake of the population would decline. Virtuous circle ? How could the mass food processors complain or Weasley's career prospects be compromised? And bone-idle, moronic consumers wouldn't have to do anything . . Business as usual.
Insufficient exercise is an issue as well..
I remember, as school kid, walking on average 25 miles a week, too and from school (Coming home for lunch), sports afternoons once a week, gym twice a week, after school football, weekend activities and I wasn't considered particularly active for that time. Now, the little darlings are delivered to and collected from school by mum's car, sit behind a computer ot TV screen at school and at home and brainwashed mum hoses them, incessantly, for convenience, with ultra-processed long-term health damaging food.
Something must be done. The current situation is HG Wells Time Machine made real.,
Starting off with a grass-roots health education campaign, . . 'cause Weasley won't do it . . .I'm thinking Banksey . . and image of a mum pushing a ultra-processed slim-line, ready-to-eat,, sausage product through the galvanised steel picket fence of a school and the child recipient on the other side crossing his arms in front of his face with the universal "No-go" symbol . . and perhaps the caption line . . . "Just say no"
And perhaps Mary Berry, or similar coud run a series of food programmes on TV teaching everybody how to prepare simple, nutricous food from fresh ingredients . . you can tell I'm still of the generation that can remember mum, in the late 1950s, shelling fresh peas pods, in prepration for a meal.
And again, perhaps the Chancellorette can join in the fun by imposing a health tax on supermarket trayed, frozen and canned prepared meals with the revenue "Ring-fenced" to address the problem.
Since I have been reducing my intake of processed foods over the past few years, I have consistently felt better and have more energy.
I don't think unprocessed food is more expensive either. Fresh vegetables aren't expensive if you compare them with processed food. But you do have to cook vegetables.
The connection with humans and a quick fix is the problem anything where are you got to do exercise change your diet is problematic to most people so they are more likely to accept the quick fix the pharmaceutical drug, so they can keep consuming, but this would lose than the weight without doing anything without achieving anything
Wow, you really are straying from your area of competence.
Everyone is allowed an opinion (but not all opinions are equally valid).
@@tlangdon12 Yes, but when you express an opinion outside of one's field, and that view is contrary to established knowledge, it requires more than assertion to command interest- evidence would be good. (extraordinary theories require extraordinary evidence...). Yes, it would be nice if everyone acted in their own self-interest, with a future plan in mind- but that does not happen. People become obese, threatening their health, and ability to work. In a society where these 'failing' citizens are supported by the rest, it is everyone's problem. The solution to date has been to staple their stomach, so over eating causes pain and discomfort. Pumping them with drugs is perhaps simpler and cheaper. Any danger is their consequence.
IMHO the culprit of most ill health is sugar, in particular fructose. It is now understood that this is the primary cause of heart disease, and obesity (due to the calorie count). How ya gonna do that? People are not rational, and do not behave rationally. That they buy lottery tickets is a clear proof of that.
exactly!
Be aware, very aware..hmmmm
PH level 5.25. get to that and you neednt worry.
You are not meant to live to 90. Thats the issue. X
Who says?
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Richard, I follow you with interest, but the captions are annoying, distracting, and unnecessary. Can you please make them optional.
Turn the picture off and just listen to his deranged ramblings.
There’s nothing to see anyway. Meanwhile back to the subject …
YOU told my parents they must give me the needle.
THEY don’t know any better. They don’t have the tin foil hats. So they gave me the needle.
NOW I’m on PIP - Now and forever.
You TOLD them to give me the needle … They gave me the needle … Now you pay my PIP.
And no more f’ing needles for me thank you.
Is the beginning a John Lennon reference?
We do need drugs. Lots of them 😉
But on a serious note. This ideology is idealistic. Massive societal shifts are very rare and highly unlickly. These drugs provide some benefits that, yes, do not address the root causes but do address the symptoms, and that's all we will get in this society, unfortunately.
The answer to getting from where you live in Lincolnshire(?) to Sheffield isn't a polluting, noisy, expensive car which the big motor manufacturers 'conned' us into thinking we needed, it is to use pre-industrialisation 'natural' methods - walking or a horse and carriage. Good luck with weaning the public off their expensive, environment damaging cars.
In the sphere of health traditional approaches to weight loss have by and large failed. Sadly, once people have become overweight or obese as a result of myriad reasons from episodes of physical or mental ill-health or adverse life circumstances or being 'conned' by the food industry, their metabolism is damaged. Any attempt to lose weight even if successful triggers the body to reverse that weight loss, because our biology and genetics are adapted to do that and not adapted to a hyper-abundance of food and especially Ultra Processed Food. We have a health emergency/crisis akin to the climate crisis, which in the case of food and health has been 40+ years in the making. We are where we are and traditional approaches to weight loss have failed. A high tech solution MAY be the only answer to the hole we have dug or eaten our way into. The evidence suggests that the GLP-1 agonists like semaglutide/Wegovy also, independent of weight, slash heart attacks, strokes and dementia by at least a third from day one - that may save the NHS; itself currently sick and on the brink of needing the Intensive Care Unit where often very powerful drugs have to be used to save the patient. It is not as simple as you suggest Professor Murphy.
YOU told my parents they must give me the needle.
THEY don’t know any better. They don’t have the tin foil hats. So they gave me the needle.
NOW I’m on PIP - Now and forever.
You TOLD them to give me the needle … They gave me the needle … NOW YOU PAY MY PIP.
You're right, Richard, but neglect the major point that the food addicts you mention want an easy solution. They don't want to do the hard yards.
Like any addict, most aren't brave enough to confront the reason why they are addicted to food. Low self-esteem, adverse childhood experiences and often fatal character flaws such as laziness, poor organisation skills, impulsiveness and inattention.
An injection is far preferable to an honest look in the mirror.
Crikey I hope you don't work with vulnerable people, or people forced into poverty at all, or those who may suffer from depression or anything that impacts their ability to do the 'hard yards'. Jeezo.
@SaveEarthPlsBeKind There is no kindness in pretending people have no agency and exist at the whims of their environment.
People get dealt terrible card at birth. You either make the best of a bad hand or you fold and too many people fold because they are too scared to try and fail.
You do realise in today's working environment, the majority of people are working very long, servant like hours and are provided little time for self care. Lunch breaks are almost a thing of the past. Many are simply exhausted when they get home and their life energy is drained. It's all too easy to reach for the quick fix meal when you're exhausted. I think our chronic, always pressured work lives are actually killing us.
@marianhunt8899 I worked 60 hour weeks and ate only home cooked food for my 3 meals a day. It just involved investing time in preparing batch meals at the weekend to be eaten during the week. However, people feel that spending an hour cooking future meals is too much of a burden. Absolutely no way their mental health can cope with 1 hour less to decompress on TikTok or Netflix.
Short cuts can be very helpful. After losing weight people may find it easier to stay healthy. Physical exercise becomes a lot easier. Fundamentally we have to see obesity as a symptom and look at the underlying causes.
I really want Labour gone too now, they are not going to provide the change we need.