Tips and Tricks to Gelatin Success - Kitchen Conundrums with Thomas Joseph
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Working with desserts that use different types of gelatin can be a tricky process. Here, Thomas Joseph shows you how to work with this temperamental ingredient to create beautiful and delicious dessert recipes every time.
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So.. I didn't know if gelatin starts thickening while still warm. Asked my mom; she said: "it should become very firm while still warm, so you have to hurry up!". So naturally I dissolve the gelatin, nothing happens, I add more gelatin.. and more.. and more. Still quite liquidy, perhaps a tad thick but I said to myself nah I'm not gonna use 2 packets. So in total I added 1 whole packet to just 1 cup of cream. Only then I decide to see if my mother even knows what she's talking about. Anyways; I'll have a rock cotta for dessert tomorrow. Wish me luck
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Dude! Thank you so much for the tidbit of information about the fruit containing enzymes that break down the gelatin. I was on my 3rd Mango Pie and couldn't get it to set. I cooked the fresh mango puree and nectar & achieved a perfect set. Thanks Bro!
Thomas is the BEST! He is so pleasant, fun and informative in a very sophisticated way. Thank you for making my culinary experience a delight!
I love the details…. I’m nerdy and find that many videos are not detail oriented enough…. Thank you
I was looking forward to more detailed explanation of agar agar use, or maybe a side by side comparison of firmness and texture in this video - maybe in a follow up, or perhaps in a special series of episodes on vegan desserts?
As far as I've heard, there's a few things to know about agar agar and its use:
- agar agar comes in different forms, most commonly in the form of flakes (which are bulkier, and which seem to be featured in the video) and a powdered form
- if measuring with teaspoons, pay attention to which type of agar (flakes or powder) you are using because 1 tsp of powder will give you a firmer set than 1 tsp of flakes
- always mix agar agar into cold water, then bring to boil
- agar agar flakes will need to boil for about 10 minutes to activate as opposed to powdered version that just needs a couple of minutes
- agar agar firms at a higher temperature relative to gelatine which means it firms up at room temperature already (important to know if you were to, say, fold cool whipped soy cream in - you won't be getting a smooth consistency that way)
- for vegan version of a panna cotta, coconut milk will probably be the best replacement of dairy because of the richness and creaminess
- if using acidic fruits (as mentioned in the video), you can inactivate those enzymes by boiling the fruits first (before adding gelling agents)
I've always found agar intimidating and I haven't got much personal experience to draw from, so let me know if you have spotted a myth of some kind - I'd appreciate additional information on it (as well as your experiences with it).
the hero we needed
Lol here in indonesia ppl rarely use gelatine because it's pretty hard to find at supermarket, plus the term of 'gelatine' were associated with 'pigs' , many ppl of Indonesians can't consume it because it forbidden in their religion, but it doesn't mean that gelatine were impossible to find here. Back to Agar agar, yes, it's seaweed based gelling agents. Based on my experience so far, agar agar needs more liquid than other gelling agents like jelly powder (e.g. jello), or it'll be too (idk, hard? Solid?). Agar agar doesn't really 'bouncy' as gelatine and sometimes, it became really fragile after it harden, and it's hard to achieve 'gummy' texture like gummy bear or any gummy candies out there. I don't know much about any agar agar brands other than Swallow, but you have to boil it. You can't just pour hot water into it. I don't know if this helpful and sorry for my bad English
Halima Mumtaz this is helpful, thank you ☺️ and no worries, your English is good 💕
Is agar agar powder mix in cold water or hot water
@@fauziaraja3242 warm water, then bring it boil
Gelling agents are so great and you can use them for so many things! Thanks for the recipes!
I've been failing powdered gelatin 😂😭 I'm glad that this appeared in my feed!
thanks for the info! I've always been curious as to how much of powdered gelatin is needed per cup of liquid. and also, thanks for the info on the agar agar as vegan substitute. If I'm not mistaken, panna cotta uses gelatin while a flan/creme brulee uses eggs as setting agent, and another related dessert is the budino, which is thickened by cornstarch.
I'm trying gelatin for my gerd mom's joint. It was tough because I fear hot water will ruin its healthy effects, think I should do as you say now. Thomas never disappoint since I'm a young girl watching kitchen conundrums haha 😃😍
I love tis recipe and gelatin has many health benefit. Thank you for sharing.❤
Sadly he is wrong (or mis-spoke) about powdered gelatin (at :48): he meant to say tablespoon, not teaspoon. Using only a teaspoon gelatin will not even hold together. The correct recipe is 1Tbsp to 2 cups for soft set, use less liquid for firmer.
Thanks for showing agar as well as I worry about all the lead (Pb) in the bones used in gelatine. Thanks for posting
I actually used some powder gelatin not long along an was overwhelmed by the smell it had at first I thought it may have been bad but after a little research found out that is just the way it smells.
This=Heaven in a video
Thx so much I did not know how to make this with the gelatine sheets
Thank you so much. I really needed to know how to make or substitute the gelatin.
Thank you I wanted to have this information! Very precise! EXCELLENT VIDEO 🙂
Thanks Thomas. Loved your explanation. Prior to watching your video I dissolved the powdered gelatin in lukewarm water. I hope my mango cheesecake forms.. it's an experience. Thanks for sharing
please show how you use agar agar as setting agents...
You need to heat the agar agar with your mixture until it's boiling. It's good with fruits and fruit juices since you can boil them without curdling the mixture. But in case of making panna cotta, it's best to stick to gelatin since you don't want to boil the cream mixture.
Scd Observer my family and many families from my native uses Agar Agar leaves and we make puddings/Jellies with this ... It's so soothing for our body ... We make with Water and Milk (that's the usual stuff ) but we add couple of ingredients to make it tasty .. yu can try that ... I can suggest yu one with the water .. and measurements differs cuz I seriously Eye Ball as we know the result ...
Boil agar agar and water untill it dissolves and then add sugar, melt that and then if u can add fresh Tender coconut water (it's awesome and it's optional ) and then few teaspoons of fresh lemon juice(its must) (maybe a half lemon) and if u have any Indian grocery store around yu and if yu can find KEWRA WATER add a splash or two (it's like Vannila to that dessert) if not jus skip it ...
In milk version do the same boiling method (agar agar , Milk and sugar) and once all dissolves , add a teaspoon of rose water and then strain and pour over a glass or any serving bowl or jar to set .. refrigerate and enjoy eating them ...
It's very simple to make ...
10g of agar agar powder need 1 liter of liquid
You're super teacher...thank you
Love Kitchen Conundrums ❤ Short, sweet, and always super informative/practical (e.g, using old Jelly Jars here vs. buying a Ramekin)
Hi Thomas
Thank you for being precise and particular about details. That’s how I learn.
Question…. When adding POWDERED GELATIN to cold liquid to BLOOM, is that liquid part of the measurement of the whole liquid to set?
Also is leaf gelatine better to use than powder? What’s the diff and why do restaurants use that one?
Than you in advance
Katherine
Thank you for this video. ❤
Hi very good info.....about the fruits that you said the mango and 3 rest that dont set well with the gelatin .. you said boil the juices?? can you please tell me how??? thank you for your time..
Very good video with lots of info about gelatine thank you LOVE PANNA COTTA !!! 😀🍰🌻
hi Thomas, thanks a lot, you are one of my best favorite teacher, your methods and way to explain things are so easy to understand and all of your recipe works perfectly. can you please make a video about puff pastry ( the base butter dough and the bread dough, i really want to learn those things, especially croissant and danish ) *i really cant find any good information about pastry, like how can the layer be perfect without machine, why there are holes in the middle of the layers, or even the perfect ratio for the butter and flour mixture. i really wait for the videos, and i believe it will help others too, thankyou :)
Can you put some numbers on the vid when you're explaining? Texts in the vids are so helpful! Thx
And more exact measurements of weight will be so helpfull.
Thank you for the quick succinct explanation
thank you for this, can't wait to try....ciao
Helpful and informative, love using agar agar for my mousse cakes
Omg i was doing it all wrong😱😱
Thankyou sooo much!! Very helful
Hi Thomas thanks for this amazing video , but I am really confused. In the beginning of the video you said 1 teaspoon of gelatin to 2 cups of liquid for a stiff set, and you then later said your ratios are 2 cups of dairy to 2 teaspoon of gelatin. Which one are we going to use the 1:2 or 2:2?
He’s wrong (or mis-spoke) on both: he meant to say tablespoon. Using only a teaspoon it will not even hold together. You can use 1Tbsp to 2 cups for any kind of liquid.
thaxs for sharing information...plz show use agar agar instead of gelatin...for those who not completely use gelatin....make deserts with agar agar
Totally cool! Thank you for educating us!
Useful info ☺ Thomas' face expressions at the end ☺
Love the apron
yummm ....thank you Thomas Joseph
Exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you!
Thank you truly for informative inputs on my fav desert....hoping to get it right now !!!
Is there a standard amt of water we will need to let the gelatin powder bloom? Because now you are using 3 tablespoon of water to 2 teaspoons of gelatin powder.
This video is very helpful. Thank you so much.
Very informative and helpful as always- thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you very much.
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This is so helpful. Thanks so much!
Thomas, you're too cute. I love your tips and tricks and recipes. Keep them coming my friend.
Great video, thank you. However you initially say that 1 teaspoon gelatin powder asks for 2 cups of liquid, but the the stuff you're making uses 2 teaspoons gel and 2 cups liquid. Kind of a dilemma here especially for a beginner like me.
Up to know I have found your videos really informing but today you neglected to mention that the leaf gelatine comes in two strengths gold and titanium and what they equate to powdered gelatine.
Hi , Is Oke to use this agar agar gelatine in this way ? I put the gelatine on water and later I use it direct not boiling . ? Is the first time and I don’t know how to use it .
That video is so nice and helpful! Thank you!
Very nicee 👌😍
Thanks!
amazing! Thanks for this!!!
Would appreciate if you do a dedicated video for agar agar - kitchen conundrums.
wow , a high dose of information , Loved it
thanks Chef Thomas .
Thank you really appreciate
YOU'RE MY HERO THOMAS!!!!
Thomas, you said 1 Tsp of gelatin for 2 Cup of liquid for stiff consistency but in the recipe you have used "2 teaspoons per 2 Cups of dairy"...
He used 2 Tsp for 4 he said 1tsp for 2 just check it again reply after 2 years xD
Daniel Shala no, he says “2 teaspoons of powdered gelatin for 2 cups of dairy”.
But it depends also on the texture you want
True, I got confused about the difference on what he said on the video and what he wrote on the recipe
Yeah...i got confused too
I never knew panacotta was so easy to make!!
just what i needed.. thank you for doing this video
Best helpful gelatin video!
Looks yummy... thanks for the info.
Are you familiar with foam gelatin? If so please do a video about it, I have trouble getting it to the right consistency. Thanks
I didnt know how to use agar so I guessed. I put a teasp in warm water and added it to my hot rosehip puree with sugarfree xylitol and then cooked it for five minutes. Just like you make custard in England :) . It worked fine.
I have a question, I want to make a sweet potato dessert, but I don't have agar. Can I substitute it with Knox gelatin, and if so, what are the ratios?
Thank you.
I adore your videos, very beneficial 😊
I just love your videos... keep going on..👍
so no need to soak agar agar? just throw it in straight in the liquid but be sure to boil the whole thing? did i get that right??
yes
***** thanks
yes, I use it all the time where I work, make sure to bring whatever you want to gel to a boil, add the agar and as soon as it's dissolved, remove from the heat. I usually make a 1-1.5% solution for a nice texture so use about 1-1.5g of agar for every 100mL of liquid
Yahriel Heffez oh my, thanks so much :)
The agar reaches its full potential when it has been boiled for five minutes. If you're making a fruit gel you can boil the whole thing for five minutes, but if you're making a panna cotta, I would recommend you to pre boil it for five minutes before adding it to the hot milk! Then you don't need to use as much eather :)
Wow was looking for this video. Thank you.
Love your channel. How to make eggless key lime pie with agar? Do i boil it with the condensed milk? Would tapioca flour help thicken it?? Thank you.
This was totally needed! Thank you very much..
Super duper helpful! Thank you! ♥
this was so helpful tku
What about canned or tetra pet pineapple juice? Will it still not set
Please show how to use agar agar or any other veg substitute to stabilize whipping cream and glaze for cakes.
When you are talking about the sheet gelatin, are you talking about the bronze level one?
Hi how much of agar agar do we need for adding in whipping cream for cake frosting
I’ve been using one packet of gelatin for two cups of liquid and it gives me a wobbly weird texture I’ll try 1 tsp instead now!
Did u try it with 1 tsp ? Can u share the recipe if it came out good ?
He’s wrong (or mis-spoke): he meant to say tablespoon. Using only a teaspoon it will not even hold together. You can use 1Tbsp to 2 cups for any kind of liquid. Problem is, the packets are NOT 1Tbsp. So, correct ratio is 1 packet to 1 1/2 cups.
Tx for the info! I want to make jelly but wasn't sure how
Hi how many ml is 1 cup? Thk u
When you bloom it does it add liquid to the recipe. Basically my recipe calls for half a cup of liquid if I Bloom the gelatin in half a cup of liquid do I still have to add another half a cup to my recipe ? Or is it already inside of the bloomed gelatin?
Nice ❤️❤️👌👍
Thank you for including us vegans!
said no-one ever....
fuckin vegans!
I’m not a vegan but I respect the choices you make and I love that he did include vegans in this
@Makeup Minion So you don't want to offend vegans, but seem pretty comfortable with the concept of killing unborn children, and mocking those with a moral conscience who choose to defend their rights. I can't decide whether this is hypocrisy or irony...or perhaps both! 😂
How intolerant the "tolerant" often are! Perhaps you reserve tolerance only for those who share your own views. Bigot.
Ugh, look at me, look at me i'm a vegan.
Finally I found the right ratio 👍👍
Hi when using agar strands how much do you use as it’s not powder form
How to make chew jellatin for coffe jelly? Any recommendation or techniq.,
Well explained. Thanks!
can you please upload a video of how to stablize coconut cream using agar agar
Agar agar been using in Asia for centuries. It's cheap n easy to use. For cold desserts,you have to melt it first and treat it exactly like powder gelatine. For hot desserts,just put that straight into your mixture. Cos it's extracts from the sea not like gelatine, that's why it's suitable for vegan.
"Agar agar"
He sounds like Pacman
could you use coconut cream
how do i take out the smell out of the gelatine?
You just saved me. The package on my gelatin powder said I had to let it bloom in hot, but not boiling, water. Kept trying but it didn’t do anything. Tried with cold and VOILA! stupid packaging
They keep telling us that we can substitute gelatin with agaragar but they never really show us how. I mean I have known agar agar all my life and you can't cook it the way you do with gelatin. So how do we use it in their recipes if they don't tell us how?
you are already in youtube, just search for it!
Mira use Japanese gelatin kenten
@@irenevillani8241 its actually "kanten"（寒天）
Exactly!! Ive tried to use agar agar for 3x and it didnt work with me and ive searched in youtube and nobody explains !!
EXACTLY!!!!
hi can you use corn starch if you can't get Agra Agra.
You just saved me from embarrassment. Bless you!
How much cream did you use?
Is it 1 tsp or 1 envelope for 2 cup of liquid? Knox says 1 envelope (2 + 1/2 tsp or 7 g) will gel 2 cups of liquid.
He meant Tbsp not tsp.
What is the proportion to replace gelatin with agar?
please do a video about yeast... like yeast 101
Great job! Thanks