What Jesus are you talking about? The one doing signs in every chapter or the one rebuking those seeking signs? "The only sign is Jonah:" a believer murdered by other believers because he was outnumbered. The Jew is hung from a tree for all time & the record of this is in the gospels themselves: ruclips.net/video/xyhv69EFuoM/видео.html Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
I'm a young Christian and when I tell you the holy spirit is upon this man I cannot say otherwise. I loved the material and its helped broaden my spiritual and historical understandings of the Word. And has helped steer me clear from foolish doctrines and an increase in well placed faith in the Bible and God.
@@GoreBruce can you do a video on salvation and the end times? Since revelation is pretty much occured already how does the bible relate to the modern day besides a guide to how we should live our lives?
@@recreantjournals6723 I'm planning a two year examination of the book of Revelation starting in the fall of 2019. I hope to address the excellent questions you raise at that time. Thanks!
@@GoreBruce I can't wait for that series! Just out of curiosity are you a full preterist or a partial preterist? I ask because I'm very much convinced at least of the partial preterist position that the events take place in AD 70. But I have a hard time understanding the resurrection occuring in AD 70. Yet at the same time I don't see how I could say some events have taken place and yet more are for the future.
I am persuaded that the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation describe events that largely took place in the first century. I also affirm, with the classical creeds of the church, that Jesus 'sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead.' Thanks for the question.
And so I have reached the end of this wonderful series. My readings of the Old Testament have become richer and more rewarding for having followed this. Thank you, Professor, for blessing me with these teachings. And no, this isn't sarcasm, I really mean it. Thank you.
This is a tremendous summary of the Book of Revelation. We appreciate you taking the time to give the Body of Christ this excellent presentation, Thanks again
The Sadducee Temple priests officiated the weekly Sabbaths and High Days at the time of Christ, who never contested their solar calendar. In 66AD the Pharisee Anti-Roman (Anti-Fasse/ANTIFA) Zealot rebels, seized control of the Temple. When contested for control, 20000 Judean 'Jewish' Edomites assisted the Zealots and murdered most of the Sadducee aristocracy, priests and hundreds of the Jerusalem populace. The ANTIFA Zealot rebels then appointed their own accursed lunar calendar high priest, who was the last to be seen standing in the Holy Place when THREE AND A HALF YEARS later, the prince of the Roman Empire arrived and desolated Jerusalem, Judea and the Jews in 70 AD - culminating in the taking of Masada another THREE AND A HALF YEARS AFTERWARDS. Most of the Christians, remembering Christ's words, escaped to Jordan between the two sieges of Jerusalem - the first siege by General Gallus who then strangely withdrew from Judea, and the second by "prince" Titus son of the new Emperor. These SEVEN YEARS are the fulfillment of Daniels prophesy. Surviving Pharisees continued to enforce their lunar calendar 'sabbaths and high days' in the Synagogues, which they controlled - hiding the Sadducee Temple calendar from the people. Constantine managed to establish the Resurrection day as Sunday in 30 AD on their Julian calendar, which actually overlapped the Biblical weekly Sabbath THAT year. Unable to establish the Biblical calendar, Constantine changed Sunday to the first day of his new Roman week, in honour of the Resurrection. Later Constantine's son Constantius ll, knowing the Pharisee's lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar to be Babylonian and Canaanite, forbade them from signaling the start of their lunar months across the Empire from Jerusalem. As a concequence, Hillel ll was forced to choose a Roman day for their weekly 'sabbath', and he chose Saturday - the seventh day of Constantine's NEW Roman week. The rest of their lunar calendar they kept by Rabbinical calculation. Thus the true Biblical Temple calendar was lost until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scroll's. The Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, corrected to the Sadducee 19th Abib Omer Wave Sheaf, is the correct Biblical calendar, revealing the weekly Sabbaths and High Days - which is why the Zionist State of Israel suppressed them for 40 years before they were leaked out on micro fish copies. Saturday was only chosen as the Jewish 'sabbath' by Heliel II about 300 years after Christ. He standadised the Jewish calendar. Even before that, the weekly 'sabbath' they kept was the Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' that the Pharisees introduced and enforced in the Synagogues, after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD. The true weekly Sabbath was already hidden by the Pharisees in favour of the Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. Knowing this, Constantine's son forbade them from signaling their pagan lunar calendar observations across the Roman Empire. However Constantine himself was unable to determine the true Biblical weekly Sabbath, but he was able to determine that Christ was resurrected in that year on the Roman solar calendars "Sunday". Therefore, in honour of the resurrection he changed Sunday to the first day of his NEW Roman week, and also made Sunday the day of rest. Without Roman authority to signal their Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' across the empire, Hillel II and other anti-Christ Jews were forced to choose a Roman weekday as their "new sabbath" and he chose the seventh day of Constantine's new Roman week - i.e. "Saturday" ! Rabbi 'Sages' don't tell you all this and most Rabbis don't even know this themselves ! Karaite Jews today still keep the Babylonial lunar calendar and many Christians have been seduced into doing the same. Jericho was an ancient lunar calendar observation city dedicated to and named after their moon god. The Bible called Jericho the "accursed city" and Joshua was commanded to totally destroy it and its inhabitants after marching around it once for six consecutive days, and seven times on the seventh day - i.e. 13 times in total ! I think that, as opposed to the Second Advent and the "Marriage of the Lamb" that nobody knows when, the preceding "great and dreadful day of the Lord" can actually be established as the 20th March 2031. The world will feel that ominous consuming fire approaching and will run around trying to hide, while Christians enter into their inner prayer "chambers". When the Christians come out, there will be no OTHER flesh and blood survivers - who will be burnt up and trodden "as ash under their feet." They will mourn for their friends and relatives who weren't "saved", but SOMETIME afterwards will witness the return of Christ coming from east to west. Raising their eyes they will be transformed in an instant, allowing them to rise up and meet His RETURN. Thereafter, they will be consoled when He "wipes the tears" from their eyes and takes care of them like as "calves of the stall". That's how I perceive these future Biblical events. Don't the dead in Christ rise "first" - a great multitude ? Then those living Christians that are "left" come safely out of their prayer chambers - AFTER the "wrath", to "tread upon the ashes of the wicked who have been removed from the earth" - "The righteous shall NEVER be removed but the wicked shall be cut off". These "saved" righteous remnant "lift up their eyes", and are then "changed in the twinkling of an eye", and able to rise up and meet Christ returning with this great host..... The chronology in the Septuagint is a few hundred years longer than in the Masoretic Text. Both are flawed: The imminent millennial reign of Christ on earth coincides with Yahweh's 2nd 'day' of rest - "and His rest shall be glorious" because His Son is ruling on earth for that 1000-year-day. So if Yahweh's first "day" of rest was ALSO a thousand-year-day, in which Adam died at 930 years old "in the same day" he sinned, and Adam was also made near the end of the previous 6th 'day', then we are currently near the end of the 13th thousand-year-day which actually ends on the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" on the 20th March 2031.
@@scottmcdonald3207 the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character than the latter. In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime after, we don't know when, the later advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers who were not removed. I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3 but it logically occurs in that sequence. The millennial second "day of rest" is logically the "third day" therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that at the end of the "second day". Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian ere, which places us now close to the end of "day two". I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib 31AD. "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, therefore starts on the 21st March 2031. How long I" in the third day" this occurs we don't know - how long will they mourn before He wipes the tears from their eyes we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three". I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.
@@scottmcdonald3207 The "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character than the latter. In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime after, we don't know when, the later advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers who were not removed. I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3 but it logically occurs in that sequence. The millennial second "day of rest" is logically the "third day" therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that at the end of the "second day". Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian ere, which places us now close to the end of "day two". I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib 31AD. "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, therefore starts on the 21st March 2031. How long "in the third day" this occurs we don't know - how long will they mourn before He wipes the tears from their eyes we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three". I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.
The "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character to the latter. In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime afterwards, we don't know exactly when, the advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers - who were not removed. I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3, but it logically occurs in that sequence. The millennial "day of (Yahweh's) rest" is logically the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3, therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that - at the end of the "second day". Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian era, which places us now very close to the end of "day two". I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib in 31AD. Therefore "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, starts on the 21st March 2031. How long "in the third day" this occurs, we don't know - how long will they mourn before He "wipes the tears from their eyes" we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked - because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three". I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.@@scottmcdonald3207
Sir, I really appreciate your teaching and taking the time to upload them to RUclips so as to bless us as the Lord has blessed you. Thank you so very much
Thank you for explanation that the Bible student can feast upon. I am reprogramming my mind to blend in with something new to me after 50 years as a Christian. With much appreciation from Mauritius ❤
I'm just finished this playlist and I want to thank you for your teaching, I was born and raised in a christian fam and so in love with God and everything about His Word(the Bible) also the history around Israel, was very helpful to me, now I know many important things. My favorite part always "Sunday school lessons" lol, also I have been practicing my English with you. You are a wise and a bless person, thanks God for people like you. God bless you brother!!! Greetings from Miami!!
This is the first teacher of the word speaking on these things who has put it in such a way that my heart can hear it and accept it, thank you, good brother in Christ
When Bruce Gore mentioned Cestius Gallus and his unknown retreat from the city and it was then that the Christians escaped from Jerusalem paired with Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20 (also Eusebius) this was the beginning of my journey to study the Preterist view. Although I learned this view before I heard of Bruce Gore it is always fantastic to find another teacher who holds the Preterist view and uses history to back it view up. It really has me wonder how any honest Christian can even hold a futurist view in light of all the historical documentation we have.
I can’t believe any honest Christian can have a preterist view when the historicist view is the only valid one. Especially when Daniel specifically said “shut up the book UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END” and many other similar verses. Not only that the bible is consistent and the day year principles on prophecy is proof. Why do Christians use 490 years in Daniel 9 but then changes to literal dates for the rest?! Also how can Nero uprooted 3 before him and how is Nero the 11th coming after the Ten horns which the 4th beast is the 4th kingdom. So it must be after the 4th kingdom is on scene.
@@Jus4kiks yes it's the end times period. God didn't leave us in the dark for 2000 years. Secondly the time of the end wouldn't make sense to end in that century.
@@godloves9163 Unless the end was not the 'end of time' and the end of something else that ended around 70ad. 👀y Given the 'last days' we are told were happening in acts 2 - last days of what? Or Heb 1:2, tells us when the last days were. Maybe, the last days are still going on, and the last days - means a long long time.
Thank you Bruce, for your hard work and excellent effort and labors! Have learnt much in this series. I also have your book now, so will be delving into it much more.
Thank you! Going through this series again... Love the rich historical context. Dispensational doctrine has never made sense to me within the full context of scripture. Now applying historical context I realize how misguided I was. My husband recently said that he wished Rev. had been left out of the canon, “it’s too confusing and causes too many arguments!” 😉 Thank you also for exhibiting grace in your instruction... something I need more of. 😔
Very good yes. Only thing is is that you’re right - if Preterism (this view here) is 100% correct then Revelation should be left out as it is redundant now and only causes confusion. The thing is though the flavor of the apocalypse in the book and Jesus definitely sound like it’s to be worldwide; and it has been taken this way for all times by most thinkers. Irenaeus for one doesn’t not speak as though all of these things have been fulfilled recently just before his own time! He points to the future and this is very very telling. It is that way with most Christian thinkers - even the reformers. There must be more to it than this here. This can only be a typological half of the story. Bless you
Mr. Gore does an excellent job on the fall of JERUSALEM. A lot of history here that is important to know. Bringsthe book Daniel alive and also Revelations.
Dear Brother Bruce. I cant believe the hate I get for telling others about 70 ad and that it is that what the bible calls Jacobs trouble. I find that no church wants me and call me a heretic. Im no heretic. I Love The Lord Jesus !!! Its frustrating. Any suggestions you may have would be appreciated. Thank You Brother!!!
Hay Charles my name is Charles Randy and the post right below is Randy . So I was called to comment. HaHa. Well my incognito name is Truethinker, no relation to me. Very interesting I have been experiencing the same thing . I have tried to fit in but I always get beat up . I still try to stay involved and just keep my mouth shut, but some times that causes a worse problem. I like the worship and the friends, most don't know squat about theology but have been conditioned enough to know I am wrong. Anyway the traditional old fashion churches are to ritualistic for me and kind of boring. But like Bruce suggested I may try one like Presbyterian, Greek Orthodox or Anglican like N.T. Wright What I was realizing just today , after watching Bruce's videos a few weeks and eating them up, Is the comments under each video of his are always positive even the ones that people do not agree 100% with him . And I love the way he responds. He takes the time to actually answer. The Neo-Fundo-Evangelicals with the dispensational theology fight and argue over and over about Pre-trib rapture and all that Book of Daniel 70 weeks revelation stuff get to the point of condemning each other to eternal Hell . It's ridicules . I a fool for punish, get involved to try to bring rational peace to there conversations but get kick again and again . That is what they mean by insanity. Well see ya keep studying and God Bless in Jesus name our Lord and friend. I am going to watch this again. People are predicting the Rapture because a star alinement is going to occur on September 23 rd that looks like Revelation Ch 12. Wow
Charles Capps I would wait until you have gained their respect in other areas then gently put out questions to make them think before jumping in. It can be very jarring for people who have spent lots of time on money on Left Behind books.
I just finished all 37 of your lectures in this series. Quite the long haul :) Thank you so much for your work. I will definitely be supporting by purchasing the book and sharing this resource. God bless and I look forward to all your additional works!!!
Well-spoken and clearly organized. Your insights concerning the Gospels & Revelation are most helpful. This is another gem from your archive of lessons. Something about your teaching style clicks with me, and I actually remember many things from your presentations! Thank you & Lord Bless you! 😊🙋📖⛪
God made a memorial of the crucifixion on day 5 of creation. He inscribed 25 details of the crucifixion scene into the DNA of a fish. See the details at: "The Crucifix Fish - What the Crucifix Fish Reveals"
Pastor I really thanks to you to reveal such a mystery of revelation which was misled by traditional pastors.Even today my church pastors believing that revelation never happened it's a futuristic. I realised it but I can't teach them they will be expell me from the church.
@ Dileep vj How come there's not one pastor able to teach like this man in the video ? What on earth do they learn when they study theology ? Isn't it scary to be misled so much ? Not one able to tell us what the book of Revelation is about without throwing that futurist nonsense at us ! How I loathe churchianity !
Thanks yet again for a wonderful series. I was raised in a historicist view of Revelation so this has been a real help in my personal search for truth. I have been watching and weighing multiple interpretations and I can see how the spread of the Gospel has benefited from each view and maybe God intended it that way. He after all knows what motivates each of us. These courses you've done are great for an average person such as myself to gain the information I need to make an educated and reasonable decision. I must say I have been persuaded to the Preterist view with yet a little to go.
The Bible has a lot more punch and makes a lot more sense from the historic perspective. Scripture must be understood in light of what has taken place in history, not in ignorance of it. When you read Daniel and Joel and revelation and the parables of Jesus, they all make sense that the 70 weeks of Daniel were meant to be understood as the end of Gods mercy on an unrepentant and apostate people. Then Peter having come, said to Him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I will forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus says to him, "I say to you not up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven! This Passage is a clear reference to the 70x7 weeks of Daniel. Jesus said up to 70 times 7 (70 weeks) so once 70 times 7 has been forgiven then the time of mercy of up, the judgment comes. The LORD repaid the Jewish people for killing his prophets and finally is own son. When the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?” Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed. The full number of the righteous ones were slain when Gods wrath fell upon the promised land. This number included the apostles and the first New Testament saints who sold all they had, quit their jobs and preached the gospel to the ends of the then known world. The Bible has so much more power in its true context but futurism is the ice cream truck that the majority of Christianity drives sadly.
@@josemascarenas682 I just checked out one of the videos on your channel about discrepancies in translation. Hope you get back into making videos. I would like to hear more.
@Jose Mascarenas Yes, it's so frustrating when pastors divorce scripture from it's cultural & historical context. Modern Anglo culture is radically different from 1st century Semitic culture; and if you don't take that into account you'll fail to understand its meaning.
Mr Gore, this has by far been the most enlightening study of Revelation, I have taken in and it has cleared the air on so much that was a mystery to me in other books of the bible. The bible, just about in its entirety, has always been about Jesus and His prophetic birth and how man would turn on Him due to our hardening hearts and sinful nature. I can clearly see why this book is suggested by many to be read and, most importantly understood, before any other book in the bible. What it REVEALS and its correlation with world history is the most convincing evidence of God's existence, power and mercy. Its such a shame that because of Hollywood and the countless myths which shroud it, a lot of the very obvious is missed. I sincerely hope you continue your study and analysis.
Thank you! I hope you will take time to check out my RUclips series, "The Apocalpyse in Space and Time" which explores these themes in much greater detail!
@@GoreBruce , I am and I’m teaching some of this to people I hope will see the truth and hopefully act on it. If they have any questions I can’t answer, I hope you don’t mind if I direct them to your page.
@@GoreBruce You do such an excellent job explaining these things for people that have never heard this veritas before, which most modern Christians have no idea, I maintain it being suppressed from the mainstream Christian mind is on purpose. I share this as much as possible. Blessings to you and your family!
Once again Bruce, an outstanding job of archaeological and historical accuracy. After reading the comments, I remind all of my Christian brothers and sisters that it's ok to disagree but let's never be disagreeable.
As sieges go, the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was the best.... *worst* example....even Titus was physically sick when he seen the doomed & destroyed city of God.
Wonderful series! I feel I should watch it through another two or three times to really let all the information soak in -- so much here to digest. I really enjoyed it and appreciate the effort it took to produce it. I've told a lot of my friends and family about your channel and can't recommend it highly enough. Thanks for blessing us with your talents for teaching and scholarship. God bless you, teacher!
I really enjoyed how you explained the history and the book of Revelation. There were several explanations that you gave that I had not seen or heard before so thank you very much for sharing and teaching in such a nice manner, that you do thank you.
What I've found also very interesting with regards to when Jesus said "not one stone left standing"... Some people may think "what about the wailing wall?". Well, it turns out that the wailing wall was built by Agrippa, AFTER the time of Christ. Apparently people today in even Jerusalem still say it was built by Herod the Great, but excavation under the wall found coins from 25 years after his death...so for what Christ said, for what was there at the time He said it,. .....TRULY..not ONE stone WAS left standing. I just thought I'd put that out there.
I love what was said about the Seven Thunders causing us to go to the Throne of Grace and seek the face of the One who KNOWS! I had never heard that interpretation before. Wow!
Powerful lecture! I’m taking notes on the events that led up to the destruction of Jerusalem and this helps a lot! I’m relying in Michael Grant’s “The Jews in the Roman World,” because it’s hard to find a satisfactory synopsis that covers the both the chronology and conflicts between religious themselves and the political factions from a biblical perspective. We’re studying Matthew 24 in our Bible class and you referenced verses from that chapter that connect directly to the events of the fall of Jerusalem (the running to the hills, and the phases of devastation.) And the five month period from Revelation within a very helpful summary with explanations of the symbols from that book. You are an incredible resource, “Doctor” Gore. Thank you! PS I just looked up the Jewish Wars in your book and I see that it will help me a lot with my summary. And there’s information from Josephus online, as well.
“The mark of a cult is that they always have a neat answer to every question.” So true. That goes for political and religious cults. But great Sunday school lesson to cap this off, especially concerning the “Seven Thunders.” A timely word indeed.
Recently finished this Israel Bible history bundle and I am very honored that I was able to listen through it. As a non-denominational (akin almost to Baptist), I didn't agree completely with your assessment of the Apocalypse, but certainly has placed a seed as I learn more. To my friends, I am known as someone with a vast wealth of history, especially in the areas of Bible history (and Rome which you did an excellent job of explaining). This series was tremendously helpful for its concise packaging, yet detailed material, and I will be passing it off to others. Are other videos available for "further reading" like dissemination of the nations (from Noah), the religious systems of Jebusites, Magi, Zoroaster, and the changes in the Israel religion pre- and post- Babylonian Captivity, and post Temple?
We are in the same page here I'm only 24 and god is using me in my region to learn his word and preach about the good news absolute amazing how you preach. May god keep you definitely people need to hear from you not a lot of preachers are guided by the Holy Ghost
Excellent! I can't believe this was produced 8 yrs ago and it is the 1st time I have come across it. I would be interested in hearing a discussion between Bruce Gore & Don Preston today.
Josephus had been a top Jewish military commander who was captured by the Romans after putting up valiant resistance early in the Galilean campaign in 68AD. Unlike the Zealots he had spared captured Roman soldiers and garnered the reputation of being a gracious commander. This reputation spared his life. While under captivity by Vespasian's own guard he'd had a dream about Vespasian that indicated that the general would soon become Caesar. And sure enough, after the suicide of Nero, when recalled to Rome at the behest of some senators and most of the Roman army to lead Rome it was Vespasian who prevailed and became Caesar in 69AD. Josephus, in exchange for this prophecy was granted his freedom by the new emperor and in turn adopted the emperor's own family name, Flavius. We know him as Flavius Josephus, the historian of the Jewish War. Granted access to Titus' inner circle of advisors because he probably knew best the battle strategy of the Jewish army, he was an eyewitness to every battle, setback, and triumph the Roman senior command faced during the war and seige. His accounts are riveting to say the least.
They ignor Acts 2:16,17, when Peter says THIS IS THAT, that the Prophet Joel talked about (Joel 2:28) that IN THE LAST DAYS... in other words these are the last days right then and there, on Pentecost, the Church was established by Jesus, and the Kingdom on earth started.
Yes, that's right, those were the last days, the 40 years, 30 to 70 AD. Now we live in the New Heaven and the New Earth, the New Covenant in Jesus Christ. Blessings
@@anthrolinguistica Thank you! Today in the 21st century we are a church made up of all followers of Jesus Christ. His spiritual kingdom is the same as it was in the first century.
This man is spot on. I think it’s call the preterist view which views Revelation as having to do almost primarily with the events from 30 AD to 70 AD. I first learned this view from Jim Jordan of formerly Biblical Horizons
Brother Gore, Thank you very much for your sacrifices for our Lord and His kingdom. I am new to your work but I am throughly pleased to spend my time in your videos. I am also an ex-dispensationalist. I am very concerned of the damage this view has brought upon our brothers and sisters in Christ. I was also recently freed from the "rapture/70th week" crowd, and I find that I have a whole new reverence for our beloved scriptures. That theory eats its way into people's hearts and minds, and it's so difficult to help them see what is plainly written before them. They laugh at me and look at me like a silly child that has wandered from the herd when I suggest that Jesus knew exactly what the words "soon" and "quickly" mean. Lord help us. What are your thoughts on doing a lecture on the prophecies in Daniel 2 and 9 from a preterist view? I won't complain a bit if becomes a series of lectures, as I understand a bit of what I'm asking of you. I just feel that if we could show them that 70 comes right after 69, and how that still fits perfectly with the scriptures, and (strangely enough) recorded history, that maybe they could consider Revelation to be what it IS..... The awesome Revelation of CHRIST. Not a future map of the end of the cosmos. Besides, didn't God tell us to stay clear of trying to predict the future? Rapture=escapism. It's poison in my opinion. Anyway, thank you for sharing your time and hard earned knowledge with us brother. I am grateful. God bless.
I deeply appreciate hearing from you. I do have a new series on Daniel in my mind (I did such a series some years back, for which the audio-only version is available at my website), but a revisit of Daniel is probably overdue at this point. Thanks for the encouragement!
Brother Gore, I was very excited to actually receive a prompt response from you! More clear signs of your faithfulness and heart. I will definitely look at your website to soak up as much information as possible. I feel like if the world only knew what treasures lie in Daniel, how could they not come to faith? I gave my heart to Christ 2 years ago in a prison cell, and for the first time in my life, I began to truly live. I vividly remember watching my thoughts being renewed. I was a God-hating atheist, drug addict loser, and 3 months later, I was ON FIRE for the Lord!! I saw God working through me in there to seed and water. They saw the almost overnight change in me and it was a powerful witness for Christ. I have a testimony that many of our brothers seem to almost envy because it's so dramatic, but I try to explain the pain and scars that came with that lifestyle. I say, Praise God, that He spared them from what I have seen. I may still have to go back to prison for a lengthy stay, as I am still dealing with the charges that led me into that fateful prison cell, where I met our Savior for the first time. I know that God is with me and that ALL things work together for the good of those that love God, so I am standing strong in my faith. I wish I could tell you some of the incredible ways that God has made it perfectly clear to me that I belong to Him. I love when He does that!! I'm so unworthy. Anyway, I'm sorry, I didn't intent on writing all that, it just felt like I should share it. I live with an insatiable thirst for His word, and have many questions, but I have chosen the most important to ask here.... I am only aware of two ages in the scriptures, the one that was coming to its end (Judaic age), and the one to come (The spiritual Kingdom of heaven), that Christ brought with the new covenant. Isa 9:7 says that the increase of His government will never end. Do you think it's possible that there is no "Second coming", as they call it? If we move into the eternal state at some point in the future, how can His government still increase? What does the earth look like when it's been thoroughly "footstooled", you know? Am I over, or under-thinking here? I realize that it's hard to give answer under this medium, but if you could point me to scriptures, or give a few of your own chosen words I would be honored. Either way, I'm a Berean 😁. God bless, friend.
@@michaelnapper4565 I really enjoyed your original comment and agree Bruce Gore has done amazing work on this topic, It is SO nice to see so many Christians breaking free from the paralyzed state Zionism has thrust them into without them even realizing it's only a 150 year old doctrine. I would just like to share this amazing work if you have never heard of it, showing just how well most of the EARLY Christians understood things so much better than our modern western church - *"The proof of the gospel, being the Demonstratio evangelica by Eusebius, of Caesarea, Bishop of Caesarea, ca. 260-ca. 340"* text -en.calameo.com/read/000107044e0c41a6a72a5 Audio - www.bitchute.com/video/beAiqvScjiKO/
I find your lectures on the historical context/background of the Bible both interesting and helpful and I have ordered your book. However I'm struggling with your Bible interpretation of Revelation in this particular lecture.
+pauline shone Quite understandable! If you have not done so already, I suggest you check my series, The Apocalypse in Space and Time, which is also available on RUclips. We may not wind up agreeing with me, of course, but at least this will provide a bit more leisurely summary of the approach I am suggesting here. Thanks for your interest!
Jesus rules out a 'dual' fulfillment in the Olivet Discourse. The historical moment described in Revelation (and the Olivet Discourse) was a paradigm change, once for all, in human history. The kingdom of Christ was established then, and at the end of human history, that kingdom will be fully realized.
Ashley brooks Even though Bruce Gore does a great job of presenting the preterist position, you might gain some understanding through other youtube videos by Gary DeMar or one of my favorites is Jonathon Welton. Just search his name on youtube and put in Jonathon Welton Revelation or Jonathon Welton Matthew 24. I think you will find it helpful.
Jesus said a wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. I was once firmly pre trib but am no longer. I have become weary over the dispensation crowd seeing a sign in every event citing prophecy. It has become obsessive. What about the events of 100 years ago or 500 years ago? Was everything prophetic? No. But somehow it is today? Simply living during this time and claiming it unto exhaustion doesn't make it so. And the endless false predictions prove it.
This quote is taken put of context. He was surprised that a people that are wicked and committing adultery even cared to be show a sign to bring them to repentance.
The book of Revelation can have a dual prophetic nature to it. Some of the prophecies were fulfilled in 70AD; and the rest will be fulfilled in the end times. Since the destruction of Jerusalem cannot possibly fill all the Revelation prophecies. This is the best explanation in my opinion.
Could the real meaning of Revelation be made more succinctly? Thank you so very much Mr Gore for the your exploration of this subject and the insight clarity and context that you have brought to this intriguing Book. Beannacht Dé!
Bruce Gore, I will for certain. This subject needs to be explained all the time in an effort to hold back the tide of intentional and unintended misinformation that abounds.
Amazing! Surely this has been contemplated debated...but as I listened I wondered if the Jews accepted Christ then how would He have given Himself as the final sacrifice and thus redeemer of all humanity?
It's my understanding (not sure where I saw this), but the 1260 days are from the beginning of the Jewish Revolt (Flores/Gallus), until the Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av; the 1290 days is the extension of this war, from the revolt (Flores/Gallus) until the whole of Jerusalem was destroyed; the 1335 days are even a longer extension, from the revolt (Flores/Gallus) until the Jews in Jerusalem surrendered.
Thank you! I deal with your question in some depth in my series on Revelation (or, The Apocalypse in Space and Time), which is a PlayList at my channel on RUclips.
Quick question Bruce but would you think that the 'man of sin' who would defile the temple that Paul talked about gessisus florus? As this would prelude the events before the end.
@@GoreBruce The only reason why i have issues with that is the refernce to him being in the temple in thessalonians? did nero ever 'defile the temple' and as for the high priest, did he ever exalt himself above godsand claim to be God? Who was restraining them? Thanks for your time
@@RedDevilStudio The word for temple in the text is 'naos' which does not generally refer to the external temple, but to the place of true worship, the inner sanctum, a term often applied to the church. This was precisely what Nero attempted to do, to force Christians to worship in the Caesar Cult.
I would like to go through your Revelation series, but it appears to me you hold more to a Preterist view, and you believe in the early writing of the book of Rev. I hold to a later time and am a partial-preterist Amill. . Would you please let me know your eschatological position, and what interpretive view you hold for the book of Rev. Thank you.
If you will be kind enough to review lectures #11, 12, and 13 of the Revelation series, I treat your question and defend my approach in some detail. Thank you!
@@GoreBruce Thank you. I paid close attention to the three videos. However, I don't think I am persuaded yet, at least not with the internal evidence you proposed (likely from Palmer). . In fact, it is precisely the internal evidence of the seven churches that does indicate to me a late date (rather than Iranaeus' external evidence, useful though it is). . If John wrote the book in say AD 65, the churches would not have had enough time to "fall"/decline from their earlier very positive state. They would have to be planted by Paul or someone closely associated with him. Then they need time to grow and do the many things they are differently commended for by our Lord Jesus Christ. It is only then that they will need time to decline to the point of admonishment by the Lord, which supposedly happened in AD 65. Which means the churches could not have started a mere 5 years before. The missionary dates of Paul do not line up to support this. To assert that other apostles planted them earlier say around AD 40-45 is mere speculation. We dont go there. However, in the period of quiet after AD 70 to about AD 95 DOES allow for enough time to grow to reach a point of commendation and then to decline. It is precisely this factor that is strong internal evidence for a late date. That Iranaeus also indicates so merely adds additional credibility. . The other very weak point people assert for an early date is that John brings in the temple in Ch 11. And he did so because it existed, and it would have existed because he wrote before AD 70. This is very weak! John, like Paul and the other apostles, know that the temple IS the our Lord Jesus Christ, and the redeemed, subordinately, in him. Moreover, John, himself, knows what he wrote in v1, to wit, "and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"! He knows he is using the word temple as a sign and not as a physical structure. . I love your teachings in general, except for the inevitable one or two issues that come up. We are all growing and none of us will always fully agree. Nonetheless, I am rather surprised that your chain did get rattled by Palmer on this point of an early date. I really don't see why. Certainly I wouldn't have expected you to have gotten jostled! I think the points are very weak for an early date, from internal evidence, no less! . Thank you again very much for your tremendous labors.
@royal priest Even if a quote from a brilliant church "elder" (I dont call them fathers - our Lord explicitly taught us to call NO man Father), let alone an eccentric one, contradicts the internal teaching of the Holy Bible, all external evidence MUST yield to the biblical text. Period. I expect you will concur on me with this, else you are not a biblical Christian, whatever else you may call yourself to be. This said, the apostle John has already heard and then later understood what Jesus Christ meant when he said "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it up on the third day". They knew he was talking about his body being THE temple of which the OT temple and tabernacle were shadows. Later Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit to teach absolute truth, taught that a redeemed person is engrafted into the body of Christ, and thus is now part of the wider spiritual, yet exceedingly real, temple in whom the living God dwells and will do so time without end. Thus when John in Rev 11 writes about the temple, he is not going to write about the second temple, when the Holy Spirit who is inspiring him to write has already taught him and Paul and others WHO the real temple is!! The old temple and shadows are done away with. They have no use now EXCEPT as the important teaching truths to what God was doing BEFORE the true and living temple took on flesh and arrived on this earth!!! So clearly the temple in Rev 11 is symbolic, though very real! One reason people get all bunched up in Rev is they miss the clear teaching in Rev 1:1 that what is to follow is "signified". Furthermore, there was simply no reasonable time for the 7 real extant churches then, to have risen in love and obedience and then to have fallen away such that the Lord must reprimand churches. And of another he says they are "dead". And so on. There is not a reasonable amount of time if John wrote before AD 70.
@@vincentpinto1127 Chapter 11 says that “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. " What other evidence do you want to understand that it refers to the actual temple before its destruction and before Jersualem , the city called Sodom , Egypt and then Babylon was trampled by the gentiles , which were the Roman armies ? The Bible says 42 months. The temple here is not the Lord !! It is a physical structure . It is crystal clear in the text.
Bruce you mention Agrippa II as the seventh and last of the Herods. I have looked into this a bit and it doesn't seem to me that they were all rulers in/of Jerusalem. As I recall two brothers ruled at the same time and that the one which had rule over Jerusalem ended up also taking over rule for the territory of the other. Is that correct? I would greatly appreciate any information you could give pertaining to this group of kings, possible family connections, or a source of study that would go beyond wiki. Thank you I enjoy watching your videos and subscribed.
Thanks for the kind feedback. I treat Herod the Great and his family here: ruclips.net/video/5QJaw7HK6sg/видео.html For a comprehensive treatment of Herod's life and family, I recommend Peter Richardson's excellent volume: www.amazon.com/Herod-Friend-Studies-Personalities-Testament/dp/1570031363/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526056635&sr=8-1&keywords=herod+friend+of+rome Thanks again!
Prof Bruce Gore, i read from some web, Galba ruled from mid of 68Ad to mid Jan 69AD. While you mentioned He ruled from end of Dec 68AD to mid Jan 69AD. Around 3 weeks only. Could you please advise the diffrence. Thank you so much sir. Your lecture is very inspiring
I can't imagine what historical mystery may linger around Cestius Gallus' sudden withdrawal from his seige of Jerusalem. He was deep in indian country and out-gunned. He was running for his life but whatever miscalculation informed his campaign to Jerusalem caught up with him at Beth-Horon. There is a certain similarity to Custer's campaign in front of the Little Big Horn. Palestine is what Newt Gingrich describes as a "choke-point". The Roman road system is a free market structure and keeping the system open was an important function of the legions. At the time of Jesus, there were two legions headquartered out of Caesarea just to keep those trade routes free. At Passover, they routinely surrounded Jerusalem for crowd control. I would guess that this force could have been as large as 30,000 men, being a permanent headquarters and all, but its TO&E was only 12,000. But it seems that these elements had been withdrawn and the Roman population in the area had to call in support from Syria. And this seems to have been the source of the miscalculation that ended up at Beth-Horon, because, if you didn't live there, Palestine seemed to have been assumed to remained pacified simply because most of the fighting was Jewish intermural. He seemed to believe he could march in and march out like the govenors of Jesus' time, but the situation had changed. Jesus demonstrated, twice, that He could mobilize nearly a legion of very mobile infantry in the Galilee but Gallus didn't get the memo. The interesting detail is the Christian reaction in Jerusalem. They had received the memo and they got out of Dodge. Anyone in doubt of the irrancy of the Gospels need to account for this. Anyone who desires to see the Holy Spirit in action, consider their faith in the Word. Vespasian didn't make the same mistake as Gallus: his first task was to create an escape route. It is a military maxim that you can get in anywhere: it's getting out again that is contingent.
The Sadducee Temple priests officiated the weekly Sabbaths and High Days at the time of Christ, who never contested their solar calendar. In 66AD the Pharisee Anti-Roman (Anti-Fasse/ANTIFA) Zealot rebels, seized control of the Temple. When contested for control, 20000 Judean 'Jewish' Edomites assisted the Zealots and murdered most of the Sadducee aristocracy, priests and hundreds of the Jerusalem populace. The ANTIFA Zealot rebels then appointed their own accursed lunar calendar high priest, who was the last to be seen standing in the Holy Place when THREE AND A HALF YEARS later, the prince of the Roman Empire arrived and desolated Jerusalem, Judea and the Jews in 70 AD - culminating in the taking of Masada another THREE AND A HALF YEARS AFTERWARDS. Most of the Christians, remembering Christ's words, escaped to Jordan between the two sieges of Jerusalem - the first siege by General Gallus who then strangely withdrew from Judea, and the second by "prince" Titus son of the new Emperor. These SEVEN YEARS are the fulfillment of Daniels prophesy. Surviving Pharisees continued to enforce their lunar calendar 'sabbaths and high days' in the Synagogues, which they controlled - hiding the Sadducee Temple calendar from the people. Constantine managed to establish the Resurrection day as Sunday in 30 AD on their Julian calendar, which actually overlapped the Biblical weekly Sabbath THAT year. Unable to establish the Biblical calendar, Constantine changed Sunday to the first day of his new Roman week, in honour of the Resurrection. Later Constantine's son Constantius ll, knowing the Pharisee's lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar to be Babylonian and Canaanite, forbade them from signaling the start of their lunar months across the Empire from Jerusalem. As a concequence, Hillel ll was forced to choose a Roman day for their weekly 'sabbath', and he chose Saturday - the seventh day of Constantine's NEW Roman week. The rest of their lunar calendar they kept by Rabbinical calculation. Thus the true Biblical Temple calendar was lost until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scroll's. The Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, corrected to the Sadducee 19th Abib Omer Wave Sheaf, is the correct Biblical calendar, revealing the weekly Sabbaths and High Days - which is why the Zionist State of Israel suppressed them for 40 years before they were leaked out on micro fish copies. Saturday was only chosen as the Jewish 'sabbath' by Heliel II about 300 years after Christ. He standadised the Jewish calendar. Even before that, the weekly 'sabbath' they kept was the Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' that the Pharisees introduced and enforced in the Synagogues, after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD. The true weekly Sabbath was already hidden by the Pharisees in favour of the Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. Knowing this, Constantine's son forbade them from signaling their pagan lunar calendar observations across the Roman Empire. However Constantine himself was unable to determine the true Biblical weekly Sabbath, but he was able to determine that Christ was resurrected in that year on the Roman solar calendars "Sunday". Therefore, in honour of the resurrection he changed Sunday to the first day of his NEW Roman week, and also made Sunday the day of rest. Without Roman authority to signal their Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' across the empire, Hillel II and other anti-Christ Jews were forced to choose a Roman weekday as their "new sabbath" and he chose the seventh day of Constantine's new Roman week - i.e. "Saturday" ! Rabbi 'Sages' don't tell you all this and most Rabbis don't even know this themselves ! Karaite Jews today still keep the Babylonial lunar calendar and many Christians have been seduced into doing the same. Jericho was an ancient lunar calendar observation city dedicated to and named after their moon god. The Bible called Jericho the "accursed city" and Joshua was commanded to totally destroy it and its inhabitants after marching around it once for six consecutive days, and seven times on the seventh day - i.e. 13 times in total ! I think that, as opposed to the Second Advent and the "Marriage of the Lamb" that nobody knows when, the preceding "great and dreadful day of the Lord" can actually be established as the 20th March 2031. The world will feel that ominous consuming fire approaching and will run around trying to hide, while Christians enter into their inner prayer "chambers". When the Christians come out, there will be no OTHER flesh and blood survivers - who will be burnt up and trodden "as ash under their feet." They will mourn for their friends and relatives who weren't "saved", but SOMETIME afterwards will witness the return of Christ coming from east to west. Raising their eyes they will be transformed in an instant, allowing them to rise up and meet His RETURN. Thereafter, they will be consoled when He "wipes the tears" from their eyes and takes care of them like as "calves of the stall". That's how I perceive these future Biblical events. Don't the dead in Christ rise "first" - a great multitude ? Then those living Christians that are "left" come safely out of their prayer chambers - AFTER the "wrath", to "tread upon the ashes of the wicked who have been removed from the earth" - "The righteous shall NEVER be removed but the wicked shall be cut off". These "saved" righteous remnant "lift up their eyes", and are then "changed in the twinkling of an eye", and able to rise up and meet Christ returning with this great host..... The chronology in the Septuagint is a few hundred years longer than in the Masoretic Text. Both are flawed: The imminent millennial reign of Christ on earth coincides with Yahweh's 2nd 'day' of rest - "and His rest shall be glorious" because His Son is ruling on earth for that 1000-year-day. So if Yahweh's first "day" of rest was ALSO a thousand-year-day, in which Adam died at 930 years old "in the same day" he sinned, and Adam was also made near the end of the previous 6th 'day', then we are currently near the end of the 13th thousand-year-day which actually ends on the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" on the 20th March 2031.
@@Michael-pn5lp In short, the biggest danger to Judea were the Zealots. the argument wasn't the Temple, which everybody like, but it how it was going to be run, which, in fact, was an element of Jesus' complaint. As par as the lunar calender, as fara s I know Enoch imported the numerology, astrology and astronomy of Zoroaster into the Hebrew cultue, with the Metonic Cycle being the the conventional wisdom, YOu can take your pic as to whether the Zealots were the Judean version of the John BBirch Society or Antifa, but my experience is that anyone who whould compare the Zealots to antifa is a fellow traveler with the John Birch Society. The interesting thing to me is that the Christians all left Jerusalem after the XII Legion withdrew and was destroyed by Jewish elements which included the Galiliean militia Jesus created when he fed the 50000. This is the formation Josephus betrayed That was a John Birch Society kind of behavior.
@@Thomasw540 from what I understand the word "ANTIFA" comes from the anti-Roman sentiments against the Roman symbol of tied sticks symbolizing "unity is strength". The people behind the civil unrest under the "ANTIFA" banner a few years ago, presumably identify themselves as anti-western Christian civilisation. Many people, myself included, have proven the lunar calendar to be un-Biblical. It is in fact a Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. The correct Biblical calendar proves it's veracity by the many cross references within it's structure.
@@Michael-pn5lp well, I hope you got an A for your creative writing calss at the Campus Crusade for Christ summer camp for advanced Total Depravity Gospel seminar. As far as I know, the only people to have deviated from the Metoci 19 year cycle are the Muslims who embrace Mohammad's moon goddess and demiurge, Allah, The Koran is still stuck in the 8 base numerology of Africa and you seem to be pretty much wallowing in the 6 base numerology of the Marvel comics version of Heidegger's pre-Socratic justification for the Nazi racial theories. But that's just reflexive astonishment of your free association mix of fascist drivel and born Again dragon and dungeons white boy hip-hop party rap. It's easier to read with The Days of Elijah playing softly in the background. It may really catch fire if I try it with Len Greenwood's God Bless the USA, the national anthem of the Right Wing draft dodgers of the John Birch Society, or, maybe. YMCA. But Days of Elijah work pretty well, You should try to get a jobwith the 700 Club: I understand a position has opened up.
Revelation is the fulfillment on our present world 🌎, John wrote the book of revelation in about 98 C.E. It’s fulfillment starting at from the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians in 607 BCE moving forward 2520 years for the establishment of God’s kingdom started in 1914
That makes no sense, sorry. Revelation was certainly written BEFORE 70 A.D as the Temple was still standing, among many, many other reasons, least of which is the book itself explicitly states over 10 times, the events were ABOUT TO HAPPEN, he uses every possibly way to communicate it was as close as it could possibly be, no more waiting. But you think it went another 2500 years? 2500 years without Vision and Prophecy?
I agree Jesus was talking about 70 ad but what about events that didn't happen yet, the Euphrates drying so 100 million soldired cross, the bowl judgements which describe 2/3 of earth getting burned, etc> this is what I don't understand, the last part of the olivet discourse seems to describe apocalyptic events like the great earthquake that affects the entire planet, the 666, etc, can someone explain this or point me to were I can learn about these seemingly and obvious future events? there was no army with 100 mil soldiers except for today, and other events!
You might be interested in my treatment of the Book of Revelation which is a PlayList at my channel on RUclips. I treat all these matters in some detail. Thanks!
I always understood Jesus' words in Matt. 23, "You're house is left to you desolate" as meaning that He took the glory of the temple (Holy Spirit) with him when He left the temple...leaving it desolate (empty) of what made it full. Could this be a possibility or are you quite certain it was the destruction in 70 a.d.? Of course, I don't know and haven't studied nearly as much as Mr. Gore so I could be entirely incorrect. Thanks!
@@banhammer3904 The Son of Gods love, showed us the ultimate act of love, to lay down ones life for His friends. As Abraham was finally prevented from sacrificing his son Isaac, The Father poured out His wrath on His dare Son, the propitiation for our sins, our Savior, Messiah Jesus; Who is the radiance of His glory & the exact representation of His nature, who upholds it all by the word of His power. The only One that could be a perfect sinless sacrifice for all time, eternity. The Son of God was the only One
I read somewhere that the Christians escaped when Vespasian was called to go back to Rome as he took his army back with him! Do you have the reference on Cestius Gallus and the escape of the Christians from Josephus or anywhere else, thanks.
I just had a thought, At about 6:45 minutes into the video, Bruce talks about Cestius Gallus withdrawing from the City. The Christians then fled to the mountains, but the "Jews" mistook Gallus' withdrawal as a good sign for them. Could their misinterpretation be the "powerful delusion" that Paul refers to in 2 Thessalonians 2:11? Anyone have any thoughts on this??
@@GoreBruce Thanks, Bruce, that means a lot. The "powerful delusion" (NIV verse 11) has stumped me for years, but I never let it go. I had an epiphany as I listened to your summary of Cestius Gallus. Here is a little more background info for anyone interested.... Kenneth Gentry builds a great case for Nero being the "man of lawlessness."(see link at end of this post) If so, then my hypothesis fits contextually 2 Thessalonians Ch. 2 and also fits the timeline. torreygazette.com/blog/2013/07/23/gentry-theology-man-of-lawlessness-identified
Would you please tell me brother Gore do you believe that the 70th week of Daniel has yet to be fulfilled at some future date as I cant find your thoughts on this matter as to me its one of the most important prophesies that appears a great divider. I personally believe that the 70 weeks of years have been fulfilled. Thanking you.
@@GoreBruce Thank you for your quick reply. Forgive me but can you tell me when for you, as there are differing thoughts on this, the 70th week started and, more importantly, what year it then finished? Thanking you once again. Look forward to your reply. Blessings.
Don't get "lost" in the details when you read the Revelation of Jesus Christ or you might find out some of those details don't work out with his deeply symbolic preterist theories. If all this has been fulfilled and we're now living in the millennium, how is it when I look around we're still living in a fallen world? How do you explain the holocaust less than 100 years ago and almost 1900 years after this prophecy? If we're experiencing this wonderful new covenant experience being in the image of Jesus, why is there such an increase of decadence not only in the world around us, but also in the Church? MARANATHA!!! HE ASCENDED IN THE LITERAL CLOUDS, AND IN LIKE MANNER HE SHALL RETURN!!!😃HALLELUJAH!!!
Bruce. Your videos are awesome! I have devoured the revelations series. I’m looking for a thorough series on Daniel. Particularly on Dan 7 and 9. If you or anyone reading this can give me links i would greatly appreciate it. Thankyou
I did a series on Daniel some years ago that is available as audio files at by site: www.brucegore.com. Click Topics, Old Testament, Daniel. Thanks for your interest!
Nero's identification with the number of the beast seems to be a stretch to me. For one, it only actually adds up to 666 if you call him Nero Caesar (Neron Kaiser). Secondly, none of the early Church fathers identified Nero the Antichrist. Iranaeus, who writes extensively on the topic, doesn't even give Nero as a possible theory. Third, Nero Kaiser only has a value of 666 in Hebrew, an odd language to render the mark of the beast in considering Nero spoke Latin and John wrote in Greek, which both have their own numerical values in letters. On top of that, the typical 1st century spelling of Nero Caesar in Hebrew was "Nrw Qsr", which adds up to 616. The spelling "Nrwn Qsr" did exist in the 1st century, but was far from common. Fourthly, Nero never returned from a healed deadly wound, which all but elminates him. Fifth and finally, it seems clear to me that A.) Revelation was written in 95 AD and B.) It is talking prophetically and not about current events. Why? Well for A.) Most every record we have (Examples Iranaeus and Clement of Alexandria) describe Revelation as being written in the time of Domition, 81 AD-96 AD. On top of that, the Nicolaetins are a full fledged sect in Revelation, something they wouldn't be in the 60's AD. And for B.) John outright calls the book a prophecy at the end.
Can't escape the statments that "the time is at hand" and "I am coming soon". The "end of all things is near". No matter how people spin these statments, one cannot escape the clear meaning.
@@paulbles2423 well I'd just like to point out that this would not be the first time that things which sound as if they're coming immediately in fact don't. In fact, that's a big part of the reason why Jews don't accept JESUS as Messiah. I don't know if the prophets always knew the time frame accurately, unless GOD told them.
First, whatever you want to try and argue about 666 or 616, the fact remains that the Beast that John spoke of must be relative to the first century Christians. Hence, this rules out any historical personage beyond 100 CE. Second, as Gentry points, "Interestingly, several scholars of the last century - Fritzsche, Holtzmann, Berm-y, Hitzig and Reuss15 - each stumbled independently upon the name Nero Caesar almost simultaneously. We have seen that the Greek spelling of Nero’s name has the value 1005. A Hebrew spelling of his name was Nrwn Qsr (pronounced: Neron Kaiser). It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero’s name provides us with precisely the value of 666.16 Jastrow’s lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling. " I will add that your understanding contradicts what scholars like Richard Bauckham have published. Further, As Greek scholar, Bruce Metzger says: “Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (mum qw) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nno q.w) is equivalent to 616.” When you attempt to use Irenaeus against the Nero theory please remember that he confesses his own ignorance on the matter. Besides, he wrote in 180 CE. Eusebius points out Ireanus's ignorance on certain biblical matters anyway. "This argument is really a two-edged sword. The very fact that Irenaeus, writing just 100 years after Revelation, cannot be sure of the proper designation demonstrates that the true interpr~ tation, whatever it was, had very quickly been lost. If this is true of Irenaeus in A.D. 180, it is certainly true of the later fathers." As far as a deadly wound, who said it was to be understood in a literal sense? Further, it is not clear whether the wound refers to a man or the Empire! Weak point. -www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1989_gentry_beast-of-revelation.pdf
I love listening to all of Brother Bruce Gore’s videos. He’s an Encyclopedia of all things Biblical.
He knows so much, and presents it well.
What Jesus are you talking about? The one doing signs in every chapter or the one rebuking those seeking signs? "The only sign is Jonah:" a believer murdered by other believers because he was outnumbered. The Jew is hung from a tree for all time & the record of this is in the gospels themselves: ruclips.net/video/xyhv69EFuoM/видео.html Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes.
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
I'm a young Christian and when I tell you the holy spirit is upon this man I cannot say otherwise. I loved the material and its helped broaden my spiritual and historical understandings of the Word. And has helped steer me clear from foolish doctrines and an increase in well placed faith in the Bible and God.
Thank you for the kind encouragement, and God's richest blessings to you!
@@GoreBruce can you do a video on salvation and the end times? Since revelation is pretty much occured already how does the bible relate to the modern day besides a guide to how we should live our lives?
@@recreantjournals6723 I'm planning a two year examination of the book of Revelation starting in the fall of 2019. I hope to address the excellent questions you raise at that time. Thanks!
@@GoreBruce I can't wait for that series! Just out of curiosity are you a full preterist or a partial preterist? I ask because I'm very much convinced at least of the partial preterist position that the events take place in AD 70. But I have a hard time understanding the resurrection occuring in AD 70. Yet at the same time I don't see how I could say some events have taken place and yet more are for the future.
I am persuaded that the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation describe events that largely took place in the first century. I also affirm, with the classical creeds of the church, that Jesus 'sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead.' Thanks for the question.
And so I have reached the end of this wonderful series. My readings of the Old Testament have become richer and more rewarding for having followed this. Thank you, Professor, for blessing me with these teachings. And no, this isn't sarcasm, I really mean it. Thank you.
I am very grateful. Thank you!
This is a tremendous summary of the Book of Revelation. We appreciate you taking the time to give the Body of Christ this excellent presentation, Thanks again
Bruce has taken me to school all over again. Only this time, i'm getting it straight.
👏🏽👏🏾👏🏽 I tell you.
"he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation"... So great to hear another person understand this!! Thanks Bruce!
The Sadducee Temple priests officiated the weekly Sabbaths and High Days at the time of Christ, who never contested their solar calendar.
In 66AD the Pharisee Anti-Roman (Anti-Fasse/ANTIFA) Zealot rebels, seized control of the Temple.
When contested for control, 20000 Judean 'Jewish' Edomites assisted the Zealots and murdered most of the Sadducee aristocracy, priests and hundreds of the Jerusalem populace.
The ANTIFA Zealot rebels then appointed their own accursed lunar calendar high priest, who was the last to be seen standing in the Holy Place when THREE AND A HALF YEARS later, the prince of the Roman Empire arrived and desolated Jerusalem, Judea and the Jews in 70 AD - culminating in the taking of Masada another THREE AND A HALF YEARS AFTERWARDS.
Most of the Christians, remembering Christ's words, escaped to Jordan between the two sieges of Jerusalem - the first siege by General Gallus who then strangely withdrew from Judea, and the second by "prince" Titus son of the new Emperor.
These SEVEN YEARS are the fulfillment of Daniels prophesy.
Surviving Pharisees continued to enforce their lunar calendar 'sabbaths and high days' in the Synagogues, which they controlled - hiding the Sadducee Temple calendar from the people.
Constantine managed to establish the Resurrection day as Sunday in 30 AD on their Julian calendar, which actually overlapped the Biblical weekly Sabbath THAT year.
Unable to establish the Biblical calendar, Constantine changed Sunday to the first day of his new Roman week, in honour of the Resurrection.
Later Constantine's son Constantius ll, knowing the Pharisee's lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar to be Babylonian and Canaanite, forbade them from signaling the start of their lunar months across the Empire from Jerusalem.
As a concequence, Hillel ll was forced to choose a Roman day for their weekly 'sabbath', and he chose Saturday - the seventh day of Constantine's NEW Roman week. The rest of their lunar calendar they kept by Rabbinical calculation.
Thus the true Biblical Temple calendar was lost until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scroll's.
The Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, corrected to the Sadducee 19th Abib Omer Wave Sheaf, is the correct Biblical calendar, revealing the weekly Sabbaths and High Days - which is why the Zionist State of Israel suppressed them for 40 years before they were leaked out on micro fish copies.
Saturday was only chosen as the Jewish 'sabbath' by Heliel II about 300 years after Christ. He standadised the Jewish calendar. Even before that, the weekly 'sabbath' they kept was the Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' that the Pharisees introduced and enforced in the Synagogues, after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD.
The true weekly Sabbath was already hidden by the Pharisees in favour of the Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. Knowing this, Constantine's son forbade them from signaling their pagan lunar calendar observations across the Roman Empire.
However Constantine himself was unable to determine the true Biblical weekly Sabbath, but he was able to determine that Christ was resurrected in that year on the Roman solar calendars "Sunday". Therefore, in honour of the resurrection he changed Sunday to the first day of his NEW Roman week, and also made Sunday the day of rest.
Without Roman authority to signal their Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' across the empire, Hillel II and other anti-Christ Jews were forced to choose a Roman weekday as their "new sabbath" and he chose the seventh day of Constantine's new Roman week - i.e. "Saturday" !
Rabbi 'Sages' don't tell you all this and most Rabbis don't even know this themselves !
Karaite Jews today still keep the Babylonial lunar calendar and many Christians have been seduced into doing the same.
Jericho was an ancient lunar calendar observation city dedicated to and named after their moon god.
The Bible called Jericho the "accursed city" and Joshua was commanded to totally destroy it and its inhabitants after marching around it once for six consecutive days, and seven times on the seventh day - i.e. 13 times in total !
I think that, as opposed to the Second Advent and the "Marriage of the Lamb" that nobody knows when, the preceding "great and dreadful day of the Lord" can actually be established as the 20th March 2031.
The world will feel that ominous consuming fire approaching and will run around trying to hide, while Christians enter into their inner prayer "chambers".
When the Christians come out, there will be no OTHER flesh and blood survivers - who will be burnt up and trodden "as ash under their feet."
They will mourn for their friends and relatives who weren't "saved", but SOMETIME afterwards will witness the return of Christ coming from east to west.
Raising their eyes they will be transformed in an instant, allowing them to rise up and meet His RETURN.
Thereafter, they will be consoled when He "wipes the tears" from their eyes and takes care of them like as "calves of the stall".
That's how I perceive these future Biblical events.
Don't the dead in Christ rise "first" - a great multitude ? Then those living Christians that are "left" come safely out of their prayer chambers - AFTER the "wrath", to "tread upon the ashes of the wicked who have been removed from the earth" - "The righteous shall NEVER be removed but the wicked shall be cut off".
These "saved" righteous remnant "lift up their eyes", and are then "changed in the twinkling of an eye", and able to rise up and meet Christ returning with this great host.....
The chronology in the Septuagint is a few hundred years longer than in the Masoretic Text. Both are flawed:
The imminent millennial reign of Christ on earth coincides with Yahweh's 2nd 'day' of rest - "and His rest shall be glorious" because His Son is ruling on earth for that 1000-year-day.
So if Yahweh's first "day" of rest was ALSO a thousand-year-day, in which Adam died at 930 years old "in the same day" he sinned, and Adam was also made near the end of the previous 6th 'day', then we are currently near the end of the 13th thousand-year-day which actually ends on the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" on the 20th March 2031.
@@Michael-pn5lp History has seen many date-setters; are you one of'em?!
@@scottmcdonald3207 the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character than the latter. In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime after, we don't know when, the later advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers who were not removed. I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3 but it logically occurs in that sequence. The millennial second "day of rest" is logically the "third day" therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that at the end of the "second day". Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian ere, which places us now close to the end of "day two". I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib 31AD. "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, therefore starts on the 21st March 2031. How long I" in the third day" this occurs we don't know - how long will they mourn before He wipes the tears from their eyes we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three".
I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.
@@scottmcdonald3207 The "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character than the latter. In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime after, we don't know when, the later advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers who were not removed. I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3 but it logically occurs in that sequence. The millennial second "day of rest" is logically the "third day" therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that at the end of the "second day". Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian ere, which places us now close to the end of "day two". I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib 31AD. "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, therefore starts on the 21st March 2031. How long "in the third day" this occurs we don't know - how long will they mourn before He wipes the tears from their eyes we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three".
I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.
The "great and dreadful day of the Lord" is not the same day as Christ's second advent, which comes sometime afterwards. The former is totally different in character to the latter.
In the former, the wicked are fearfully running about and are burnt up while the righteous are safe in their "prayer chambers". Sometime afterwards, we don't know exactly when, the advent of Christ is seen by all the world's survivers - who were not removed.
I don't know when "in the third day" the latter occurs - how long after the former event ENDING the "second day" of Hosea 6:1-3, but it logically occurs in that sequence.
The millennial "day of (Yahweh's) rest" is logically the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3, therefore the removal of the wicked has to occur before that - at the end of the "second day".
Most people looking at Hosea 6:1-3 see day one and day two as the post resurrection Christian era, which places us now very close to the end of "day two".
I recon "day one" starts after the inclusive Biblical year of Christ's resurrection of 30AD - i.e. starting on 21st March/1st Abib in 31AD. Therefore "the third day" during which Christians are "raised up" and those who are left see Christ return, starts on the 21st March 2031.
How long "in the third day" this occurs, we don't know - how long will they mourn before He "wipes the tears from their eyes" we don't know, but the Last Day of "the second day" has to fulfill the removal of the wicked - because they will be "ashes under the feet" of the righteous in "day three".
I hope that clarifies that I don't give a date for the Second Advent other than the "third day" of Hosea 6:1-3.@@scottmcdonald3207
Sir, I really appreciate your teaching and taking the time to upload them to RUclips so as to bless us as the Lord has blessed you. Thank you so very much
...and thank you for your very generous encouragement!
Thank you for explanation that the Bible student can feast upon.
I am reprogramming my mind to blend in with something new to me after 50 years as a Christian.
With much appreciation from Mauritius ❤
I'm just finished this playlist and I want to thank you for your teaching, I was born and raised in a christian fam and so in love with God and everything about His Word(the Bible) also the history around Israel, was very helpful to me, now I know many important things. My favorite part always "Sunday school lessons" lol, also I have been practicing my English with you. You are a wise and a bless person, thanks God for people like you. God bless you brother!!! Greetings from Miami!!
YPA JIL Thank you for your kind feedback!
I'm already started the gospel of Mark!! 👍
It took me a year to work through this series. What a blessing. Thank you so much for making this freely available
Thank you!
If you can believe you have been lied to...... you will discover the truth.
Well spent 50 minutes in listening to this study. May God bless you.
Thank you!
Traditionalist Catholic here; I appreciate your lectures,...................... mostly.
Dominus vobiscum.
This is the first teacher of the word speaking on these things who has put it in such a way that my heart can hear it and accept it, thank you, good brother in Christ
Just finished the series..what a blessing thanks Mr.gore
Not only are we getting history but also the word of GOD ..... AMAZING 😍 LOVE YA BRUCE.
When Bruce Gore mentioned Cestius Gallus and his unknown retreat from the city and it was then that the Christians escaped from Jerusalem paired with Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20 (also Eusebius) this was the beginning of my journey to study the Preterist view. Although I learned this view before I heard of Bruce Gore it is always fantastic to find another teacher who holds the Preterist view and uses history to back it view up. It really has me wonder how any honest Christian can even hold a futurist view in light of all the historical documentation we have.
I can’t believe any honest Christian can have a preterist view when the historicist view is the only valid one. Especially when Daniel specifically said “shut up the book UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END” and many other similar verses.
Not only that the bible is consistent and the day year principles on prophecy is proof. Why do Christians use 490 years in Daniel 9 but then changes to literal dates for the rest?!
Also how can Nero uprooted 3 before him and how is Nero the 11th coming after the Ten horns which the 4th beast is the 4th kingdom. So it must be after the 4th kingdom is on scene.
@@godloves9163 time of the end, not the end of time. Amen
And John was told the events were at hand, and not to seal the book, amen, God’s glorious word fits so well.
@@Jus4kiks yes it's the end times period. God didn't leave us in the dark for 2000 years. Secondly the time of the end wouldn't make sense to end in that century.
@@godloves9163 Unless the end was not the 'end of time' and the end of something else that ended around 70ad. 👀y
Given the 'last days' we are told were happening in acts 2 - last days of what?
Or Heb 1:2, tells us when the last days were.
Maybe, the last days are still going on, and the last days - means a long long time.
Can't help but appreciate genius and wisdom of Jesus
I have seen this series last year but I keep coming back to this episode
Thank you! I hope you can take a look at the more detailed treatment of this topic in my series on Revelation (RUclips Playlist).
I'm so amazed that after asking God for the truth of the Bible and revelation, i now get this video!
Thank you! I hope you will have time to check out our series on Revelation, which is also a playlist on RUclips!
Thank you Bruce, for your hard work and excellent effort and labors! Have learnt much in this series. I also have your book now, so will be delving into it much more.
Thank you!
Going through this series again...
Love the rich historical context. Dispensational doctrine has never made sense to me within the full context of scripture. Now applying historical context I realize how misguided I was. My husband recently said that he wished Rev. had been left out of the canon, “it’s too confusing and causes too many arguments!” 😉
Thank you also for exhibiting grace in your instruction... something I need more of. 😔
Your kind feedback is deeply appreciated.
Very good yes. Only thing is is that you’re right - if Preterism (this view here) is 100% correct then Revelation should be left out as it is redundant now and only causes confusion. The thing is though the flavor of the apocalypse in the book and Jesus definitely sound like it’s to be worldwide; and it has been taken this way for all times by most thinkers. Irenaeus for one doesn’t not speak as though all of these things have been fulfilled recently just before his own time! He points to the future and this is very very telling. It is that way with most Christian thinkers - even the reformers. There must be more to it than this here. This can only be a typological half of the story. Bless you
Mr. Gore does an excellent job on the fall of JERUSALEM. A lot of history here that is important to know. Bringsthe book Daniel alive and also Revelations.
Dear Brother Bruce. I cant believe the hate I get for telling others about 70 ad and that it is that what the bible calls Jacobs trouble. I find that no church wants me and call me a heretic. Im no heretic. I Love The Lord Jesus !!! Its frustrating. Any suggestions you may have would be appreciated. Thank You Brother!!!
I have had a happy home in Presbyterian circles for many years!
Hebrews 8: 10-12
Hay Charles my name is Charles Randy and the post right below is Randy . So I was called to comment. HaHa. Well my incognito name is Truethinker, no relation to me.
Very interesting I have been experiencing the same thing . I have tried to fit in but I always get beat up . I still try to stay involved and just keep my mouth shut, but some times that causes a worse problem. I like the worship and the friends, most don't know squat about theology but have been conditioned enough to know I am wrong. Anyway the traditional old fashion churches are to ritualistic for me and kind of boring. But like Bruce suggested I may try one like Presbyterian, Greek Orthodox or Anglican like N.T. Wright
What I was realizing just today , after watching Bruce's videos a few weeks and eating them up, Is the comments under each video of his are always positive even the ones that people do not agree 100% with him . And I love the way he responds. He takes the time to actually answer. The Neo-Fundo-Evangelicals with the dispensational theology fight and argue over and over about Pre-trib rapture and all that Book of Daniel 70 weeks revelation stuff get to the point of condemning each other to eternal Hell . It's ridicules .
I a fool for punish, get involved to try to bring rational peace to there conversations but get kick again and again . That is what they mean by insanity. Well see ya keep studying and God Bless in Jesus name our Lord and friend. I am going to watch this again. People are predicting the Rapture because a star alinement is going to occur on September 23 rd that looks like Revelation Ch 12. Wow
Charles Capps I would wait until you have gained their respect in other areas then gently put out questions to make them think before jumping in. It can be very jarring for people who have spent lots of time on money on Left Behind books.
We love you, Charles! You're HIS. And we are HIS.
I just finished all 37 of your lectures in this series. Quite the long haul :) Thank you so much for your work. I will definitely be supporting by purchasing the book and sharing this resource. God bless and I look forward to all your additional works!!!
Thanks for the kind feedback! Blessings to you.
Well-spoken and clearly organized. Your insights concerning the Gospels & Revelation are most helpful. This is another gem from your archive of lessons. Something about your teaching style clicks with me, and I actually remember many things from your presentations! Thank you & Lord Bless you! 😊🙋📖⛪
God made a memorial of the crucifixion on day 5 of creation. He inscribed 25 details of the crucifixion scene into the DNA of a fish. See the details at:
"The Crucifix Fish - What the Crucifix Fish Reveals"
Pastor I really thanks to you to reveal such a mystery of revelation which was misled by traditional pastors.Even today my church pastors believing that revelation never happened it's a futuristic. I realised it but I can't teach them they will be expell me from the church.
Be patient my friend, more and more Christian teachers are recognizing the error of 'futuristic' speculations on the book of Revelation.
@ Dileep vj
How come there's not one pastor able to teach like this man in the video ? What on earth do they learn when they study theology ? Isn't it scary to be misled so much ?
Not one able to tell us what the book of Revelation is about without throwing that futurist nonsense at us !
How I loathe churchianity !
Thank you for this series!
Thanks for providing this fantastic series.
You are very welcome! Thank you.
Great series Bruce, thanks! 😃
Thanks yet again for a wonderful series. I was raised in a historicist view of Revelation so this has been a real help in my personal search for truth. I have been watching and weighing multiple interpretations and I can see how the spread of the Gospel has benefited from each view and maybe God intended it that way. He after all knows what motivates each of us. These courses you've done are great for an average person such as myself to gain the information I need to make an educated and reasonable decision. I must say I have been persuaded to the Preterist view with yet a little to go.
Thank you! I appreciate you warm and generous feedback!
The Bible has a lot more punch and makes a lot more sense from the historic perspective. Scripture must be understood in light of what has taken place in history, not in ignorance of it. When you read Daniel and Joel and revelation and the parables of Jesus, they all make sense that the 70 weeks of Daniel were meant to be understood as the end of Gods mercy on an unrepentant and apostate people. Then Peter having come, said to Him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I will forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus says to him, "I say to you not up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven! This Passage is a clear reference to the 70x7 weeks of Daniel. Jesus said up to 70 times 7 (70 weeks) so once 70 times 7 has been forgiven then the time of mercy of up, the judgment comes. The LORD repaid the Jewish people for killing his prophets and finally is own son.
When the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?” Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed. The full number of the righteous ones were slain when Gods wrath fell upon the promised land. This number included the apostles and the first New Testament saints who sold all they had, quit their jobs and preached the gospel to the ends of the then known world.
The Bible has so much more power in its true context but futurism is the ice cream truck that the majority of Christianity drives sadly.
@@josemascarenas682 I just checked out one of the videos on your channel about discrepancies in translation. Hope you get back into making videos. I would like to hear more.
@Jose Mascarenas Yes, it's so frustrating when pastors divorce scripture from it's cultural & historical context. Modern Anglo culture is radically different from 1st century Semitic culture; and if you don't take that into account you'll fail to understand its meaning.
Learning from India and I was blessed a lot. God bless you
Mr Gore, this has by far been the most enlightening study of Revelation, I have taken in and it has cleared the air on so much that was a mystery to me in other books of the bible. The bible, just about in its entirety, has always been about Jesus and His prophetic birth and how man would turn on Him due to our hardening hearts and sinful nature.
I can clearly see why this book is suggested by many to be read and, most importantly understood, before any other book in the bible. What it REVEALS and its correlation with world history is the most convincing evidence of God's existence, power and mercy. Its such a shame that because of Hollywood and the countless myths which shroud it, a lot of the very obvious is missed.
I sincerely hope you continue your study and analysis.
Thank you! I hope you will take time to check out my RUclips series, "The Apocalpyse in Space and Time" which explores these themes in much greater detail!
@@GoreBruce , I am and I’m teaching some of this to people I hope will see the truth and hopefully act on it. If they have any questions I can’t answer, I hope you don’t mind if I direct them to your page.
@@patriotx190 of course!
Wonderfully laid out. This vid/ teaching is priceless & super appreciated. God bless in the holy name of our eternal King & Savior Jesus Christ
A heartfelt thank you to you!
May Father YAHweh bless your understanding.
Well narrated and easy listening! Very nice series , amen .
Bruce, this has changed my life, view of Jesus' perfect knowledge, and faith in Scripture. Thank God for you!
Blessings to you, my friend.
@@GoreBruce I'm sharing this with my family. I just don't understand (except hyper preterism) why it's so shunned and called names?
@@GoreBruce You do such an excellent job explaining these things for people that have never heard this veritas before, which most modern Christians have no idea, I maintain it being suppressed from the mainstream Christian mind is on purpose. I share this as much as possible. Blessings to you and your family!
@Watchman D your handle is also fulfilled. "All things written fulfilled " when "armies surround Jerusalem " Luke 21.
@Watchman D Jesus was lying to the disciples? About it happening in their generation & armies surrounding Jerusalem? It's to us today?
As always, a listening blessing.
Psalm 119
Your word is a lamp for my feet,
a light on my path
Why 7?,with the menorah? Why not 12? Or 3 or,4 or5?
This is a great talk, just what I was waiting for! Great message! Can't thank you enough!!
Thank you, for that summary of the Book of Revelation.
Once again Bruce, an outstanding job of archaeological and historical accuracy. After reading the comments, I remind all of my Christian brothers and sisters that it's ok to disagree but let's never be disagreeable.
As sieges go, the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was the best.... *worst* example....even Titus was physically sick when he seen the doomed & destroyed city of God.
May Father YAHweh bless your understanding and show you His Resurrected Son. Praise Father YAHweh.
Its YAHWIH . Has to have a numeric value of 37 .
Wonderful series! I feel I should watch it through another two or three times to really let all the information soak in -- so much here to digest. I really enjoyed it and appreciate the effort it took to produce it. I've told a lot of my friends and family about your channel and can't recommend it highly enough. Thanks for blessing us with your talents for teaching and scholarship. God bless you, teacher!
Thank you!
I really enjoyed how you explained the history and the book of Revelation. There were several explanations that you gave that I had not seen or heard before so thank you very much for sharing and teaching in such a nice manner, that you do thank you.
Every Christian needs to see this. Everything falls into place like puzzle pieces.
Dispensationalism has confused so MANY of God's people.
...including me! for many years.
So the dispensationalist believe that the book of revelation is still to come when it's already happened.Is that what you're saying?
@@rafaellabrie2303 yep.
What I've found also very interesting with regards to when Jesus said "not one stone left standing"... Some people may think "what about the wailing wall?". Well, it turns out that the wailing wall was built by Agrippa, AFTER the time of Christ. Apparently people today in even Jerusalem still say it was built by Herod the Great, but excavation under the wall found coins from 25 years after his death...so for what Christ said, for what was there at the time He said it,. .....TRULY..not ONE stone WAS left standing. I just thought I'd put that out there.
Thanks! Helpful!
I love what was said about the Seven Thunders causing us to go to the Throne of Grace and seek the face of the One who KNOWS! I had never heard that interpretation before. Wow!
Powerful lecture! I’m taking notes on the events that led up to the destruction of Jerusalem and this helps a lot! I’m relying in Michael Grant’s “The Jews in the Roman World,” because it’s hard to find a satisfactory synopsis that covers the both the chronology and conflicts between religious themselves and the political factions from a biblical perspective. We’re studying Matthew 24 in our Bible class and you referenced verses from that chapter that connect directly to the events of the fall of Jerusalem (the running to the hills, and the phases of devastation.) And the five month period from Revelation within a very helpful summary with explanations of the symbols from that book. You are an incredible resource, “Doctor” Gore. Thank you!
PS I just looked up the Jewish Wars in your book and I see that it will help me a lot with my summary.
And there’s information from Josephus online, as well.
Bravo!! a great historical and Revelation summary. A new fan.
“The mark of a cult is that they always have a neat answer to every question.” So true. That goes for political and religious cults. But great Sunday school lesson to cap this off, especially concerning the “Seven Thunders.” A timely word indeed.
Recently finished this Israel Bible history bundle and I am very honored that I was able to listen through it. As a non-denominational (akin almost to Baptist), I didn't agree completely with your assessment of the Apocalypse, but certainly has placed a seed as I learn more. To my friends, I am known as someone with a vast wealth of history, especially in the areas of Bible history (and Rome which you did an excellent job of explaining). This series was tremendously helpful for its concise packaging, yet detailed material, and I will be passing it off to others.
Are other videos available for "further reading" like dissemination of the nations (from Noah), the religious systems of Jebusites, Magi, Zoroaster, and the changes in the Israel religion pre- and post- Babylonian Captivity, and post Temple?
We are in the same page here I'm only 24 and god is using me in my region to learn his word and preach about the good news absolute amazing how you preach. May god keep you definitely people need to hear from you not a lot of preachers are guided by the Holy Ghost
Thank you and God's richest blessings to you my friend!
Excellent! I can't believe this was produced 8 yrs ago and it is the 1st time I have come across it.
I would be interested in hearing a discussion between Bruce Gore & Don Preston today.
Amazing! Beautiful exhortation to eat God’s Word! Subscribed!
Josephus had been a top Jewish military commander who was captured by the Romans after putting up valiant resistance early in the Galilean campaign in 68AD. Unlike the Zealots he had spared captured Roman soldiers and garnered the reputation of being a gracious commander. This reputation spared his life. While under captivity by Vespasian's own guard he'd had a dream about Vespasian that indicated that the general would soon become Caesar. And sure enough, after the suicide of Nero, when recalled to Rome at the behest of some senators and most of the Roman army to lead Rome it was Vespasian who prevailed and became Caesar in 69AD. Josephus, in exchange for this prophecy was granted his freedom by the new emperor and in turn adopted the emperor's own family name, Flavius. We know him as Flavius Josephus, the historian of the Jewish War. Granted access to Titus' inner circle of advisors because he probably knew best the battle strategy of the Jewish army, he was an eyewitness to every battle, setback, and triumph the Roman senior command faced during the war and seige. His accounts are riveting to say the least.
this one made reread revelations , many religion teaching revelations is the future , I always knew it had to be in the past
Indeed!
They ignor Acts 2:16,17, when Peter says THIS IS THAT, that the Prophet Joel talked about (Joel 2:28) that IN THE LAST DAYS... in other words these are the last days right then and there, on Pentecost, the Church was established by Jesus, and the Kingdom on earth started.
Yes, that's right, those were the last days, the 40 years, 30 to 70 AD. Now we live in the New Heaven and the New Earth, the New Covenant in Jesus Christ. Blessings
Well put
@@anthrolinguistica Thank you! Today in the 21st century we are a church made up of all followers of Jesus Christ. His spiritual kingdom is the same as it was in the first century.
Great job. So simple. The book is only hard when we try to make it about us. Isn't that what we do with our human nature, or rather sin nature.
Thank you sir for posting ill try to put it out there for you God bless you
tonyteb Thank you!
Dear Dr Gore, it’s interesting that right before the big Diaspora, Israel was deeply divided. Kinda like us right now.
Very good explanation of the book of revelation
this really bless me
This man is spot on. I think it’s call the preterist view which views Revelation as having to do almost primarily with the events from 30 AD to 70 AD. I first learned this view from Jim Jordan of formerly Biblical Horizons
This is excellent! God bless you! Will share...!
+BHGM Thank you!
Now I didn't know that about the Christians fleeing Jerusalem before Rome's return.
Brother Gore,
Thank you very much for your sacrifices for our Lord and His kingdom. I am new to your work but I am throughly pleased to spend my time in your videos. I am also an ex-dispensationalist. I am very concerned of the damage this view has brought upon our brothers and sisters in Christ. I was also recently freed from the "rapture/70th week" crowd, and I find that I have a whole new reverence for our beloved scriptures. That theory eats its way into people's hearts and minds, and it's so difficult to help them see what is plainly written before them. They laugh at me and look at me like a silly child that has wandered from the herd when I suggest that Jesus knew exactly what the words "soon" and "quickly" mean. Lord help us.
What are your thoughts on doing a lecture on the prophecies in Daniel 2 and 9 from a preterist view? I won't complain a bit if becomes a series of lectures, as I understand a bit of what I'm asking of you. I just feel that if we could show them that 70 comes right after 69, and how that still fits perfectly with the scriptures, and (strangely enough) recorded history, that maybe they could consider Revelation to be what it IS..... The awesome Revelation of CHRIST. Not a future map of the end of the cosmos. Besides, didn't God tell us to stay clear of trying to predict the future? Rapture=escapism. It's poison in my opinion.
Anyway, thank you for sharing your time and hard earned knowledge with us brother. I am grateful. God bless.
I deeply appreciate hearing from you. I do have a new series on Daniel in my mind (I did such a series some years back, for which the audio-only version is available at my website), but a revisit of Daniel is probably overdue at this point. Thanks for the encouragement!
Brother Gore, I was very excited to actually receive a prompt response from you! More clear signs of your faithfulness and heart. I will definitely look at your website to soak up as much information as possible. I feel like if the world only knew what treasures lie in Daniel, how could they not come to faith?
I gave my heart to Christ 2 years ago in a prison cell, and for the first time in my life, I began to truly live. I vividly remember watching my thoughts being renewed. I was a God-hating atheist, drug addict loser, and 3 months later, I was ON FIRE for the Lord!! I saw God working through me in there to seed and water. They saw the almost overnight change in me and it was a powerful witness for Christ. I have a testimony that many of our brothers seem to almost envy because it's so dramatic, but I try to explain the pain and scars that came with that lifestyle. I say, Praise God, that He spared them from what I have seen. I may still have to go back to prison for a lengthy stay, as I am still dealing with the charges that led me into that fateful prison cell, where I met our Savior for the first time. I know that God is with me and that ALL things work together for the good of those that love God, so I am standing strong in my faith. I wish I could tell you some of the incredible ways that God has made it perfectly clear to me that I belong to Him. I love when He does that!! I'm so unworthy. Anyway, I'm sorry, I didn't intent on writing all that, it just felt like I should share it. I live with an insatiable thirst for His word, and have many questions, but I have chosen the most important to ask here.... I am only aware of two ages in the scriptures, the one that was coming to its end (Judaic age), and the one to come (The spiritual Kingdom of heaven), that Christ brought with the new covenant. Isa 9:7 says that the increase of His government will never end. Do you think it's possible that there is no "Second coming", as they call it? If we move into the eternal state at some point in the future, how can His government still increase? What does the earth look like when it's been thoroughly "footstooled", you know?
Am I over, or under-thinking here? I realize that it's hard to give answer under this medium, but if you could point me to scriptures, or give a few of your own chosen words I would be honored. Either way, I'm a Berean 😁. God bless, friend.
@@michaelnapper4565 I really enjoyed your original comment and agree Bruce Gore has done amazing work on this topic, It is SO nice to see so many Christians breaking free from the paralyzed state Zionism has thrust them into without them even realizing it's only a 150 year old doctrine. I would just like to share this amazing work if you have never heard of it, showing just how well most of the EARLY Christians understood things so much better than our modern western church - *"The proof of the gospel, being the Demonstratio evangelica by Eusebius, of Caesarea, Bishop of Caesarea, ca. 260-ca. 340"* text -en.calameo.com/read/000107044e0c41a6a72a5
Audio - www.bitchute.com/video/beAiqvScjiKO/
I totally agree with your explanation of the apocalypse.
I find your lectures on the historical context/background of the Bible both interesting and helpful and I have ordered your book. However I'm struggling with your Bible interpretation of Revelation in this particular lecture.
+pauline shone Quite understandable! If you have not done so already, I suggest you check my series, The Apocalypse in Space and Time, which is also available on RUclips. We may not wind up agreeing with me, of course, but at least this will provide a bit more leisurely summary of the approach I am suggesting here. Thanks for your interest!
pauline shone dido. so will these things happen again or not at all?
Jesus rules out a 'dual' fulfillment in the Olivet Discourse. The historical moment described in Revelation (and the Olivet Discourse) was a paradigm change, once for all, in human history. The kingdom of Christ was established then, and at the end of human history, that kingdom will be fully realized.
Ashley brooks Even though Bruce Gore does a great job of presenting the preterist position, you might gain some understanding through other youtube videos by Gary DeMar or one of my favorites is Jonathon Welton. Just search his name on youtube and put in Jonathon Welton Revelation or Jonathon Welton Matthew 24. I think you will find it helpful.
This is kingdom now theology. The issue I have with this is explaining the millenial rule of Christ.
Jesus said a wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. I was once firmly pre trib but am no longer. I have become weary over the dispensation crowd seeing a sign in every event citing prophecy. It has become obsessive. What about the events of 100 years ago or 500 years ago? Was everything prophetic? No. But somehow it is today? Simply living during this time and claiming it unto exhaustion doesn't make it so. And the endless false predictions prove it.
This quote is taken put of context. He was surprised that a people that are wicked and committing adultery even cared to be show a sign to bring them to repentance.
The book of Revelation can have a dual prophetic nature to it. Some of the prophecies were fulfilled in 70AD; and the rest will be fulfilled in the end times. Since the destruction of Jerusalem cannot possibly fill all the Revelation prophecies.
This is the best explanation in my opinion.
Excellent teaching!
I just bought your book.
Soli deo Gloria ☝️
2 John 1:6 KJB
Could the real meaning of Revelation be made more succinctly? Thank you so very much Mr Gore for the your exploration of this subject and the insight clarity and context that you have brought to this intriguing Book. Beannacht Dé!
Thank you very much. I'm planning a not-so-succinct treatment of the book beginning this fall (2019). I hope you will be able to join in!
Bruce Gore, I will for certain. This subject needs to be explained all the time in an effort to hold back the tide of intentional and unintended misinformation that abounds.
YAH bless you for the truth of it being fulfilled at the end of days as peter said at acts 2.
Amazing! Surely this has been contemplated debated...but as I listened I wondered if the Jews accepted Christ then how would He have given Himself as the final sacrifice and thus redeemer of all humanity?
The rejection of Christ was ordained by God (Acts 2:22ff), but the call to repent was also preached to them.
@@GoreBruce thank u
Thank you!
Very interestin.
Gog bles you.
Thank you!
Very well laid out.
Hey Bruce I enjoy your lessons. I am wondering if you have a video were you address Daniels 1335th day in history?
Sorry. That one remains a bit of a puzzle.
It's my understanding (not sure where I saw this), but the 1260 days are from the beginning of the Jewish Revolt (Flores/Gallus), until the Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av; the 1290 days is the extension of this war, from the revolt (Flores/Gallus) until the whole of Jerusalem was destroyed; the 1335 days are even a longer extension, from the revolt (Flores/Gallus) until the Jews in Jerusalem surrendered.
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When was the book of Daniel written ?
love his work
To God be the Glory.. the Bible has literally come alive.... my only question, While there be a final Judgement in the future? .. whats next?
Thank you! I deal with your question in some depth in my series on Revelation (or, The Apocalypse in Space and Time), which is a PlayList at my channel on RUclips.
Quick question Bruce but would you think that the 'man of sin' who would defile the temple that Paul talked about gessisus florus? As this would prelude the events before the end.
I incline to the view that Paul's 'man of sin' refers either to Nero (more likely) or to the High Priest in the closing days of the Jewish Wars.
@@GoreBruce The only reason why i have issues with that is the refernce to him being in the temple in thessalonians? did nero ever 'defile the temple' and as for the high priest, did he ever exalt himself above godsand claim to be God? Who was restraining them? Thanks for your time
@@RedDevilStudio The word for temple in the text is 'naos' which does not generally refer to the external temple, but to the place of true worship, the inner sanctum, a term often applied to the church. This was precisely what Nero attempted to do, to force Christians to worship in the Caesar Cult.
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I would like to go through your Revelation series, but it appears to me you hold more to a Preterist view, and you believe in the early writing of the book of Rev. I hold to a later time and am a partial-preterist Amill.
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Would you please let me know your eschatological position, and what interpretive view you hold for the book of Rev. Thank you.
If you will be kind enough to review lectures #11, 12, and 13 of the Revelation series, I treat your question and defend my approach in some detail. Thank you!
@@GoreBruce Thank you. I paid close attention to the three videos. However, I don't think I am persuaded yet, at least not with the internal evidence you proposed (likely from Palmer).
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In fact, it is precisely the internal evidence of the seven churches that does indicate to me a late date (rather than Iranaeus' external evidence, useful though it is).
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If John wrote the book in say AD 65, the churches would not have had enough time to "fall"/decline from their earlier very positive state. They would have to be planted by Paul or someone closely associated with him. Then they need time to grow and do the many things they are differently commended for by our Lord Jesus Christ. It is only then that they will need time to decline to the point of admonishment by the Lord, which supposedly happened in AD 65. Which means the churches could not have started a mere 5 years before. The missionary dates of Paul do not line up to support this. To assert that other apostles planted them earlier say around AD 40-45 is mere speculation. We dont go there. However, in the period of quiet after AD 70 to about AD 95 DOES allow for enough time to grow to reach a point of commendation and then to decline. It is precisely this factor that is strong internal evidence for a late date. That Iranaeus also indicates so merely adds additional credibility.
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The other very weak point people assert for an early date is that John brings in the temple in Ch 11. And he did so because it existed, and it would have existed because he wrote before AD 70. This is very weak! John, like Paul and the other apostles, know that the temple IS the our Lord Jesus Christ, and the redeemed, subordinately, in him. Moreover, John, himself, knows what he wrote in v1, to wit, "and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John"! He knows he is using the word temple as a sign and not as a physical structure.
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I love your teachings in general, except for the inevitable one or two issues that come up. We are all growing and none of us will always fully agree. Nonetheless, I am rather surprised that your chain did get rattled by Palmer on this point of an early date. I really don't see why. Certainly I wouldn't have expected you to have gotten jostled! I think the points are very weak for an early date, from internal evidence, no less!
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Thank you again very much for your tremendous labors.
@@vincentpinto1127 Fair enough. Thanks!
@royal priest Even if a quote from a brilliant church "elder" (I dont call them fathers - our Lord explicitly taught us to call NO man Father), let alone an eccentric one, contradicts the internal teaching of the Holy Bible, all external evidence MUST yield to the biblical text. Period.
I expect you will concur on me with this, else you are not a biblical Christian, whatever else you may call yourself to be.
This said, the apostle John has already heard and then later understood what Jesus Christ meant when he said "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it up on the third day". They knew he was talking about his body being THE temple of which the OT temple and tabernacle were shadows. Later Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit to teach absolute truth, taught that a redeemed person is engrafted into the body of Christ, and thus is now part of the wider spiritual, yet exceedingly real, temple in whom the living God dwells and will do so time without end.
Thus when John in Rev 11 writes about the temple, he is not going to write about the second temple, when the Holy Spirit who is inspiring him to write has already taught him and Paul and others WHO the real temple is!! The old temple and shadows are done away with. They have no use now EXCEPT as the important teaching truths to what God was doing BEFORE the true and living temple took on flesh and arrived on this earth!!! So clearly the temple in Rev 11 is symbolic, though very real! One reason people get all bunched up in Rev is they miss the clear teaching in Rev 1:1 that what is to follow is "signified".
Furthermore, there was simply no reasonable time for the 7 real extant churches then, to have risen in love and obedience and then to have fallen away such that the Lord must reprimand churches. And of another he says they are "dead". And so on. There is not a reasonable amount of time if John wrote before AD 70.
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Chapter 11 says that “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. "
What other evidence do you want to understand that it refers to the actual temple before its destruction and before Jersualem , the city called Sodom , Egypt and then Babylon was trampled by the gentiles , which were the Roman armies ? The Bible says 42 months.
The temple here is not the Lord !! It is a physical structure . It is crystal clear in the text.
Bruce you mention Agrippa II as the seventh and last of the Herods. I have looked into this a bit and it doesn't seem to me that they were all rulers in/of Jerusalem. As I recall two brothers ruled at the same time and that the one which had rule over Jerusalem ended up also taking over rule for the territory of the other. Is that correct? I would greatly appreciate any information you could give pertaining to this group of kings, possible family connections, or a source of study that would go beyond wiki. Thank you I enjoy watching your videos and subscribed.
Thanks for the kind feedback. I treat Herod the Great and his family here:
ruclips.net/video/5QJaw7HK6sg/видео.html
For a comprehensive treatment of Herod's life and family, I recommend Peter Richardson's excellent volume:
www.amazon.com/Herod-Friend-Studies-Personalities-Testament/dp/1570031363/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526056635&sr=8-1&keywords=herod+friend+of+rome
Thanks again!
Prof Bruce Gore, i read from some web, Galba ruled from mid of 68Ad to mid Jan 69AD. While you mentioned He ruled from end of Dec 68AD to mid Jan 69AD. Around 3 weeks only. Could you please advise the diffrence. Thank you so much sir. Your lecture is very inspiring
Your date is correct. I misspoke. Galba followed Nero, who died in June 68.
I can't imagine what historical mystery may linger around Cestius Gallus' sudden withdrawal from his seige of Jerusalem. He was deep in indian country and out-gunned. He was running for his life but whatever miscalculation informed his campaign to Jerusalem caught up with him at Beth-Horon. There is a certain similarity to Custer's campaign in front of the Little Big Horn.
Palestine is what Newt Gingrich describes as a "choke-point". The Roman road system is a free market structure and keeping the system open was an important function of the legions. At the time of Jesus, there were two legions headquartered out of Caesarea just to keep those trade routes free. At Passover, they routinely surrounded Jerusalem for crowd control. I would guess that this force could have been as large as 30,000 men, being a permanent headquarters and all, but its TO&E was only 12,000. But it seems that these elements had been withdrawn and the Roman population in the area had to call in support from Syria. And this seems to have been the source of the miscalculation that ended up at Beth-Horon, because, if you didn't live there, Palestine seemed to have been assumed to remained pacified simply because most of the fighting was Jewish intermural. He seemed to believe he could march in and march out like the govenors of Jesus' time, but the situation had changed. Jesus demonstrated, twice, that He could mobilize nearly a legion of very mobile infantry in the Galilee but Gallus didn't get the memo.
The interesting detail is the Christian reaction in Jerusalem. They had received the memo and they got out of Dodge. Anyone in doubt of the irrancy of the Gospels need to account for this. Anyone who desires to see the Holy Spirit in action, consider their faith in the Word.
Vespasian didn't make the same mistake as Gallus: his first task was to create an escape route. It is a military maxim that you can get in anywhere: it's getting out again that is contingent.
The Sadducee Temple priests officiated the weekly Sabbaths and High Days at the time of Christ, who never contested their solar calendar.
In 66AD the Pharisee Anti-Roman (Anti-Fasse/ANTIFA) Zealot rebels, seized control of the Temple.
When contested for control, 20000 Judean 'Jewish' Edomites assisted the Zealots and murdered most of the Sadducee aristocracy, priests and hundreds of the Jerusalem populace.
The ANTIFA Zealot rebels then appointed their own accursed lunar calendar high priest, who was the last to be seen standing in the Holy Place when THREE AND A HALF YEARS later, the prince of the Roman Empire arrived and desolated Jerusalem, Judea and the Jews in 70 AD - culminating in the taking of Masada another THREE AND A HALF YEARS AFTERWARDS.
Most of the Christians, remembering Christ's words, escaped to Jordan between the two sieges of Jerusalem - the first siege by General Gallus who then strangely withdrew from Judea, and the second by "prince" Titus son of the new Emperor.
These SEVEN YEARS are the fulfillment of Daniels prophesy.
Surviving Pharisees continued to enforce their lunar calendar 'sabbaths and high days' in the Synagogues, which they controlled - hiding the Sadducee Temple calendar from the people.
Constantine managed to establish the Resurrection day as Sunday in 30 AD on their Julian calendar, which actually overlapped the Biblical weekly Sabbath THAT year.
Unable to establish the Biblical calendar, Constantine changed Sunday to the first day of his new Roman week, in honour of the Resurrection.
Later Constantine's son Constantius ll, knowing the Pharisee's lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar to be Babylonian and Canaanite, forbade them from signaling the start of their lunar months across the Empire from Jerusalem.
As a concequence, Hillel ll was forced to choose a Roman day for their weekly 'sabbath', and he chose Saturday - the seventh day of Constantine's NEW Roman week. The rest of their lunar calendar they kept by Rabbinical calculation.
Thus the true Biblical Temple calendar was lost until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scroll's.
The Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, corrected to the Sadducee 19th Abib Omer Wave Sheaf, is the correct Biblical calendar, revealing the weekly Sabbaths and High Days - which is why the Zionist State of Israel suppressed them for 40 years before they were leaked out on micro fish copies.
Saturday was only chosen as the Jewish 'sabbath' by Heliel II about 300 years after Christ. He standadised the Jewish calendar. Even before that, the weekly 'sabbath' they kept was the Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' that the Pharisees introduced and enforced in the Synagogues, after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD.
The true weekly Sabbath was already hidden by the Pharisees in favour of the Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. Knowing this, Constantine's son forbade them from signaling their pagan lunar calendar observations across the Roman Empire.
However Constantine himself was unable to determine the true Biblical weekly Sabbath, but he was able to determine that Christ was resurrected in that year on the Roman solar calendars "Sunday". Therefore, in honour of the resurrection he changed Sunday to the first day of his NEW Roman week, and also made Sunday the day of rest.
Without Roman authority to signal their Babylonian lunar 'sabbath' across the empire, Hillel II and other anti-Christ Jews were forced to choose a Roman weekday as their "new sabbath" and he chose the seventh day of Constantine's new Roman week - i.e. "Saturday" !
Rabbi 'Sages' don't tell you all this and most Rabbis don't even know this themselves !
Karaite Jews today still keep the Babylonial lunar calendar and many Christians have been seduced into doing the same.
Jericho was an ancient lunar calendar observation city dedicated to and named after their moon god.
The Bible called Jericho the "accursed city" and Joshua was commanded to totally destroy it and its inhabitants after marching around it once for six consecutive days, and seven times on the seventh day - i.e. 13 times in total !
I think that, as opposed to the Second Advent and the "Marriage of the Lamb" that nobody knows when, the preceding "great and dreadful day of the Lord" can actually be established as the 20th March 2031.
The world will feel that ominous consuming fire approaching and will run around trying to hide, while Christians enter into their inner prayer "chambers".
When the Christians come out, there will be no OTHER flesh and blood survivers - who will be burnt up and trodden "as ash under their feet."
They will mourn for their friends and relatives who weren't "saved", but SOMETIME afterwards will witness the return of Christ coming from east to west.
Raising their eyes they will be transformed in an instant, allowing them to rise up and meet His RETURN.
Thereafter, they will be consoled when He "wipes the tears" from their eyes and takes care of them like as "calves of the stall".
That's how I perceive these future Biblical events.
Don't the dead in Christ rise "first" - a great multitude ? Then those living Christians that are "left" come safely out of their prayer chambers - AFTER the "wrath", to "tread upon the ashes of the wicked who have been removed from the earth" - "The righteous shall NEVER be removed but the wicked shall be cut off".
These "saved" righteous remnant "lift up their eyes", and are then "changed in the twinkling of an eye", and able to rise up and meet Christ returning with this great host.....
The chronology in the Septuagint is a few hundred years longer than in the Masoretic Text. Both are flawed:
The imminent millennial reign of Christ on earth coincides with Yahweh's 2nd 'day' of rest - "and His rest shall be glorious" because His Son is ruling on earth for that 1000-year-day.
So if Yahweh's first "day" of rest was ALSO a thousand-year-day, in which Adam died at 930 years old "in the same day" he sinned, and Adam was also made near the end of the previous 6th 'day', then we are currently near the end of the 13th thousand-year-day which actually ends on the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" on the 20th March 2031.
@@Michael-pn5lp In short, the biggest danger to Judea were the Zealots. the argument wasn't the Temple, which everybody like, but it how it was going to be run, which, in fact, was an element of Jesus' complaint.
As par as the lunar calender, as fara s I know Enoch imported the numerology, astrology and astronomy of Zoroaster into the Hebrew cultue, with the Metonic Cycle being the the conventional wisdom,
YOu can take your pic as to whether the Zealots were the Judean version of the John BBirch Society or Antifa, but my experience is that anyone who whould compare the Zealots to antifa is a fellow traveler with the John Birch Society.
The interesting thing to me is that the Christians all left Jerusalem after the XII Legion withdrew and was destroyed by Jewish elements which included the Galiliean militia Jesus created when he fed the 50000. This is the formation Josephus betrayed That was a John Birch Society kind of behavior.
@@Thomasw540 from what I understand the word "ANTIFA" comes from the anti-Roman sentiments against the Roman symbol of tied sticks symbolizing "unity is strength". The people behind the civil unrest under the "ANTIFA" banner a few years ago, presumably identify themselves as anti-western Christian civilisation.
Many people, myself included, have proven the lunar calendar to be un-Biblical. It is in fact a Babylonian lunar interpretation of the Biblical calendar. The correct Biblical calendar proves it's veracity by the many cross references within it's structure.
@@Michael-pn5lp well, I hope you got an A for your creative writing calss at the Campus Crusade for Christ summer camp for advanced Total Depravity Gospel seminar. As far as I know, the only people to have deviated from the Metoci 19 year cycle are the Muslims who embrace Mohammad's moon goddess and demiurge, Allah, The Koran is still stuck in the 8 base numerology of Africa and you seem to be pretty much wallowing in the 6 base numerology of the Marvel comics version of Heidegger's pre-Socratic justification for the Nazi racial theories.
But that's just reflexive astonishment of your free association mix of fascist drivel and born Again dragon and dungeons white boy hip-hop party rap. It's easier to read with The Days of Elijah playing softly in the background. It may really catch fire if I try it with Len Greenwood's God Bless the USA, the national anthem of the Right Wing draft dodgers of the John Birch Society, or, maybe. YMCA.
But Days of Elijah work pretty well, You should try to get a jobwith the 700 Club: I understand a position has opened up.
@@Thomasw540 gobbledygook 🙄
Hi Bruce am enjoying your lectures. Was Bernice wife of Agrippa II or his sister or both .
Decay - Both his wife and full sister.
Revelation is the fulfillment on our present world 🌎, John wrote the book of revelation in about 98 C.E. It’s fulfillment starting at from the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians in 607 BCE moving forward 2520 years for the establishment of God’s kingdom started in 1914
That makes no sense, sorry. Revelation was certainly written BEFORE 70 A.D as the Temple was still standing, among many, many other reasons, least of which is the book itself explicitly states over 10 times, the events were ABOUT TO HAPPEN, he uses every possibly way to communicate it was as close as it could possibly be, no more waiting. But you think it went another 2500 years? 2500 years without Vision and Prophecy?
Revelation was written in about 66 AD
I agree Jesus was talking about 70 ad but what about events that didn't happen yet, the Euphrates drying so 100 million soldired cross, the bowl judgements which describe 2/3 of earth getting burned, etc> this is what I don't understand, the last part of the olivet discourse seems to describe apocalyptic events like the great earthquake that affects the entire planet, the 666, etc, can someone explain this or point me to were I can learn about these seemingly and obvious future events? there was no army with 100 mil soldiers except for today, and other events!
You might be interested in my treatment of the Book of Revelation which is a PlayList at my channel on RUclips. I treat all these matters in some detail. Thanks!
@@GoreBruce ok
I always understood Jesus' words in Matt. 23, "You're house is left to you desolate" as meaning that He took the glory of the temple (Holy Spirit) with him when He left the temple...leaving it desolate (empty) of what made it full.
Could this be a possibility or are you quite certain it was the destruction in 70 a.d.?
Of course, I don't know and haven't studied nearly as much as Mr. Gore so I could be entirely incorrect.
Thanks!
The declaration may very well incorporate both ideas.
@@GoreBruce Thank you sir!
The sin debt was paid in full when Father YAHweh's Son died.
How does God fulfill a debt owed to Himself?
@@banhammer3904 The Son of Gods love, showed us the ultimate act of love, to lay down ones life for His friends. As Abraham was finally prevented from sacrificing his son Isaac, The Father poured out His wrath on His dare Son, the propitiation for our sins, our Savior, Messiah Jesus; Who is the radiance of His glory & the exact representation of His nature, who upholds it all by the word of His power. The only One that could be a perfect sinless sacrifice for all time, eternity. The Son of God was the only One
I read somewhere that the Christians escaped when Vespasian was called to go back to Rome as he took his army back with him! Do you have the reference on Cestius Gallus and the escape of the Christians from Josephus or anywhere else, thanks.
Check Eusebius, Ecclesiastical Histories, Book 3, chapter 5.
BRAVO!
God bless.
+Maria Billingsley Thank you!
I just had a thought, At about 6:45 minutes into the video, Bruce talks about Cestius Gallus withdrawing from the City. The Christians then fled to the mountains, but the "Jews" mistook Gallus' withdrawal as a good sign for them. Could their misinterpretation be the "powerful delusion" that Paul refers to in 2 Thessalonians 2:11? Anyone have any thoughts on this??
I like that hypothesis! I may use it. Thanks for the insight!
@@GoreBruce Thanks, Bruce, that means a lot. The "powerful delusion" (NIV verse 11) has stumped me for years, but I never let it go. I had an epiphany as I listened to your summary of Cestius Gallus. Here is a little more background info for anyone interested.... Kenneth Gentry builds a great case for Nero being the "man of lawlessness."(see link at end of this post) If so, then my hypothesis fits contextually 2 Thessalonians Ch. 2 and also fits the timeline. torreygazette.com/blog/2013/07/23/gentry-theology-man-of-lawlessness-identified
Very good insight!
Would you please tell me brother Gore do you believe that the 70th week of Daniel has yet to be fulfilled at some future date as I cant find your thoughts on this matter as to me its one of the most important prophesies that appears a great divider. I personally believe that the 70 weeks of years have been fulfilled. Thanking you.
I believe that the 70th week of Daniel followed immediately after the 69th week. Thanks for your interest!
@@GoreBruce Thank you for your quick reply. Forgive me but can you tell me when for you, as there are differing thoughts on this, the 70th week started and, more importantly, what year it then finished? Thanking you once again. Look forward to your reply. Blessings.
Don't get "lost" in the details when you read the Revelation of Jesus Christ or you might find out some of those details don't work out with his deeply symbolic preterist theories. If all this has been fulfilled and we're now living in the millennium, how is it when I look around we're still living in a fallen world? How do you explain the holocaust less than 100 years ago and almost 1900 years after this prophecy? If we're experiencing this wonderful new covenant experience being in the image of Jesus, why is there such an increase of decadence not only in the world around us, but also in the Church? MARANATHA!!! HE ASCENDED IN THE LITERAL CLOUDS, AND IN LIKE MANNER HE SHALL RETURN!!!😃HALLELUJAH!!!
Bruce. Your videos are awesome! I have devoured the revelations series. I’m looking for a thorough series on Daniel. Particularly on Dan 7 and 9. If you or anyone reading this can give me links i would greatly appreciate it. Thankyou
I did a series on Daniel some years ago that is available as audio files at by site: www.brucegore.com. Click Topics, Old Testament, Daniel. Thanks for your interest!
Nero's identification with the number of the beast seems to be a stretch to me. For one, it only actually adds up to 666 if you call him Nero Caesar (Neron Kaiser). Secondly, none of the early Church fathers identified Nero the Antichrist. Iranaeus, who writes extensively on the topic, doesn't even give Nero as a possible theory. Third, Nero Kaiser only has a value of 666 in Hebrew, an odd language to render the mark of the beast in considering Nero spoke Latin and John wrote in Greek, which both have their own numerical values in letters. On top of that, the typical 1st century spelling of Nero Caesar in Hebrew was "Nrw Qsr", which adds up to 616. The spelling "Nrwn Qsr" did exist in the 1st century, but was far from common. Fourthly, Nero never returned from a healed deadly wound, which all but elminates him. Fifth and finally, it seems clear to me that A.) Revelation was written in 95 AD and B.) It is talking prophetically and not about current events. Why?
Well for A.) Most every record we have (Examples Iranaeus and Clement of Alexandria) describe Revelation as being written in the time of Domition, 81 AD-96 AD. On top of that, the Nicolaetins are a full fledged sect in Revelation, something they wouldn't be in the 60's AD. And for B.) John outright calls the book a prophecy at the end.
Many good people share your perspective!
Can't escape the statments that "the time is at hand" and "I am coming soon". The "end of all things is near". No matter how people spin these statments, one cannot escape the clear meaning.
Yes, those statements and a good many others like them are persuasive to me, but obviously not everyone sees them as compelling.
@@paulbles2423 well I'd just like to point out that this would not be the first time that things which sound as if they're coming immediately in fact don't. In fact, that's a big part of the reason why Jews don't accept JESUS as Messiah. I don't know if the prophets always knew the time frame accurately, unless GOD told them.
First, whatever you want to try and argue about 666 or 616, the fact remains that the Beast that John spoke of must be relative to the first century Christians. Hence, this rules out any historical personage beyond 100 CE.
Second, as Gentry points, "Interestingly, several scholars of the last century - Fritzsche, Holtzmann, Berm-y, Hitzig and Reuss15 - each stumbled independently upon the name Nero Caesar almost simultaneously.
We have seen that the Greek spelling of Nero’s name has the value
1005. A Hebrew spelling of his name was Nrwn Qsr (pronounced:
Neron Kaiser). It has been documented by archaeological finds
that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero’s name provides us
with precisely the value of 666.16 Jastrow’s lexicon of the Talmud
contains this very spelling. " I will add that your understanding contradicts what scholars like Richard Bauckham have published.
Further, As Greek scholar, Bruce Metzger says: “Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew
characters (mum qw) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form
Nero Caesar (nno q.w) is equivalent to 616.”
When you attempt to use Irenaeus against the Nero theory please remember that he confesses his own ignorance on the matter. Besides, he wrote in 180 CE. Eusebius points out Ireanus's ignorance on certain biblical matters anyway.
"This argument is really a two-edged sword. The very fact
that Irenaeus, writing just 100 years after Revelation, cannot be
sure of the proper designation demonstrates that the true interpr~
tation, whatever it was, had very quickly been lost. If this is true
of Irenaeus in A.D. 180, it is certainly true of the later fathers."
As far as a deadly wound, who said it was to be understood in a literal sense? Further, it is not clear whether the wound refers to a man or the Empire! Weak point.
-www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1989_gentry_beast-of-revelation.pdf