The fact that I could hardly hear a difference when you played them back to back is a testament to your sound engineer. Kudos on making all these kits shine.
This is supposedly a shell pack demo but we hear more of the snares (that aren't included with these kits) than the toms. Particularly with the Reserve and Complete drums, we barely hear the toms at all.
Also, may I ask one more thing. When it came to the micing for these, was it the same, and did you mix/eq the kits different at all? Just curious if the Maple Res, and the Maple Gum were really that different, mainly the kick with just the same processing on them? Like the Gum really sounded more scooped, and mixed than the Reserve, and I know they are different obv, and the Gum is more modern like that, but just wondering if thats all just the drum, or if it came down to some processing differences to suit the different kits? Also, like the first two kits, the kick sounded very similar, and then the Gum sounded way more punchy, and snappy in the high end, so just trying to figure out what was different, if anything in terms of micing, tuning, mixing etc.
Great video and thanks. Not sure if it's just my monitors but the toms sound quite/compressed compared to the rest of the kit. Especially in the opening. Is this intentional?
Pics of the Kingdom Of Desire shows Jeff playing his Gretsch w/gold hardware - if I remember correctly. It's widely known Jeff often played Gretsch in the studio while endorsing Pearl.
Glad Pearl masters ditched the thick 7.5mm shell. These all sounded awesome. Good to see the triple flanged hoops. I never could dial in the die cast hoops, they choked out the head leaving a very small sweet spot. Otherwise love the hardware.
It's more than possible that Jeff played Gretsch on Kingsom. It's probable. That being said, I'm here because I'm looking to make a move, and aside from Yamaha, Pearl are some best drums I've ever handled when I worked in retail, but they always sounded great.
But when he played Pearl(ex: Kingdom of Desire and more), he played MLX. He also played some BLX. He played all the high end kits like Gretsch(his Carpatian elm kit on a lot of sessions), Ludwig(Black Panther on Silk Degrees and more), Yamaha(Toto IV). He played a lot of different drums.
@@erikondrums Porcaro played MLX live. All the great drummers seem to have recorded great albums using Gretsch drums combined with coated Ambassadors. Then there's the legendary Yamaha RC, before that the Ludwig popularized by Ringo Starr, while most metal and punk drummers in the 80s played Tama. That's why vintage Gretsch, Ludwig, Recording Customs are very expensive today, some vintage Artstar/Artstar II too. On the other hand, the old Pearl MLX and BLX (I'd say both the old DLX and the early Sessions) sound great too, but they can be bought very cheaply. I would also add a vintage Premier, great drums.
@@markomarkovic5729 Porcaro played MLX and BLX live when he played Pearl. The last tour he played shells that Bill Detamore prepared, with Pearl hardware. The old DLX and stuff like that are really good drums for the price. I can tell we both are pretty nerdy about this stuff.
@@erikondrums Man, if I had practiced as much as I researched everything about drums, such as shells, bearing edges, finish options, hoops, etc., I could probably make a living playing drums professionally. Not to mention cymbals and hardware😂
In 2024 when you go onto their website the only master drums listed are the Masters Maple, Masters Pure and Masters Maple/Gum. Reserve and Complete are nowhere to be seen. Really confusing! When you are selling a 4 piece drum kit for over $4k, confusing your potential customers is not the best business model.
This is a shame. There is WAY too much compression on this, with what also sounds like some high-end pushed up (especially on the kit). When you do that, it makes everything sound the same. Great video, but you undermined it with all the processing.
@@NK-ov6kd ….for what it’s worth, every drummer who’s ever recorded their drums has done that at some point. And, in some cases it can make it sound much better (especially in a mix). But, in a demo setting it can overwhelm the natural sound of the kit. Still sounds great, you just get to hear the nuances that make this kit what it is. It’s all in respectful feedback. 👍
Cross laminating is a drum advertising gimmick.. all wood products made of plies like drums, chairs, tables, boats have to be cross laminated to hold shape. It’s just the way multiple wood ply products are made, it’s not a special drum making thing at all.
Meni je prelep ovaj beli Maple/Gum, a inače mi zvuči baš predrkano dobro svuda osim na ovom snimku. Od svega što se pravi danas, Masters Maple/Gum i Ludwig Classic Oak mi zvuče najbolje i bukvalno slinim
@@markomarkovic5729 Bubanj koji me trenutno najviše oduševljava je Yamaha PHX. Ludwig Classic Maple mi je isto brutalan, ali mi se ne sviđa onaj novi Atlas mount sistem, čini mi se da previše ugušuje rezonantnost tomova. A što se tiče ovog belog finiša kod MMG, jako me podseća na jeftini Natural Zebrawood wrap od Tama Imperialstar, znam da nije isto ali svi ti krem beli finiši sa prugama me nerviraju, ne znam zašto 😀
@@ivanbajovic3476 Meni beli bubanj predobro izgleda pod reflektorima. Džaba oni suludo dobri finiši, kad se to na bini ne vidi kako treba. Ovako van toga sam se zalepio za Tamin Ruby Pacific Walnut Burst na StarClassic Maple, baš moćno izgleda preliv od neke jarko crvene ka narandžasto-žutoj boji, pogotovo u kombinaciji sa smoked black nickel hardverom. Taj PHX zvuči i izgleda tako da čovek poželi da zalivadi bubreg za njega, ali preteraše ga sa cenom, skuplji je i od Collectorsa. Za tu lovu bih radije ćapio neki boutique set, tipa Noble & Cooley, C&C, pokojni Craviotto, Brady... Ili nešto od lokalnih majstora tipa Sara (bubnjar Dubioze to svira), Sybinco, itd...
@@markomarkovic5729 Da, taj Tamin finiš je baš seksi. Ja se ložim na neki sličan koji je izgleda ukinut, nema ga na sajtu i ne znam kako se zove, ima ga u videu pod nazivom "Tama Starcalssic Maple - Studiofight sound check in studio Macac". A kad si pomenuo pokojni australijski Brady, sećam se da sam umalo pao sa stolice kad sam prvi put čuo kako zvuči, na žalost samo preko videa, ali ono je savršenstvo.
They're fantastic. The toms don't wobble when hit like other brands and hold up for decades. I have two hanging floor toms from the early 2000's with optimounts and they are still like new.
Thanks for watching the video guys let us know your favourite in the comments!!!
The fact that I could hardly hear a difference when you played them back to back is a testament to your sound engineer. Kudos on making all these kits shine.
TBH all I hear is extreme high end gating, especially on the kicks and floor toms :/
Yes good normally except during a drum kit comparison when you’re trying to hear different nuances of each kit.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611thanks for info ht how about on Pa system ? Live concert and gigging ?
I love how pretty much all you demo'ed were the hi-hats, with occasional appearances from the bass drums and snare drums.
Cool vid. Only wish you actually demonstrated the kits back to back like a true comparison.
Great video my dude! This made me love the masters maple/gum even more, that kit is something special!!
Love the Maple/Gum
This is supposedly a shell pack demo but we hear more of the snares (that aren't included with these kits) than the toms. Particularly with the Reserve and Complete drums, we barely hear the toms at all.
....but we got to hear dude *talk* about the drums, so.....🙄
Thanks for the snare demo... :|
Also, may I ask one more thing. When it came to the micing for these, was it the same, and did you mix/eq the kits different at all? Just curious if the Maple Res, and the Maple Gum were really that different, mainly the kick with just the same processing on them? Like the Gum really sounded more scooped, and mixed than the Reserve, and I know they are different obv, and the Gum is more modern like that, but just wondering if thats all just the drum, or if it came down to some processing differences to suit the different kits? Also, like the first two kits, the kick sounded very similar, and then the Gum sounded way more punchy, and snappy in the high end, so just trying to figure out what was different, if anything in terms of micing, tuning, mixing etc.
I like the masters complete kit the most!
Where’d can I get that maple complete shell finish?
Excellent drums, which drum mic mounts are you using?
Great video and thanks. Not sure if it's just my monitors but the toms sound quite/compressed compared to the rest of the kit. Especially in the opening. Is this intentional?
Have you guys at gear4music played many OG Reference series kits?
Pics of the Kingdom Of Desire shows Jeff playing his Gretsch w/gold hardware - if I remember correctly.
It's widely known Jeff often played Gretsch in the studio while endorsing Pearl.
That maple reserve sounds dark and punchy, really digging it, or the maple gum has a little higher pitch with punch 👍🖤
Now Pearl maple has 3 variants in it can you make a comparison video for the same .?
Is the maple reserve in black hardware or black nickel hardware???
What about the birch shells?
I love the maple it’s very punchy and it can echo when you hit the bass drum
What is the snare being used..
Glad Pearl masters ditched the thick 7.5mm shell. These all sounded awesome. Good to see the triple flanged hoops. I never could dial in the die cast hoops, they choked out the head leaving a very small sweet spot. Otherwise love the hardware.
It's more than possible that Jeff played Gretsch on Kingsom. It's probable.
That being said, I'm here because I'm looking to make a move, and aside from Yamaha, Pearl are some best drums I've ever handled when I worked in retail, but they always sounded great.
Not a slag off, but Porcaro preferred Gretsch even though he endorsed Pearl. Everyone makes good stuff these days.
But when he played Pearl(ex: Kingdom of Desire and more), he played MLX. He also played some BLX. He played all the high end kits like Gretsch(his Carpatian elm kit on a lot of sessions), Ludwig(Black Panther on Silk Degrees and more), Yamaha(Toto IV). He played a lot of different drums.
@@erikondrums Porcaro played MLX live. All the great drummers seem to have recorded great albums using Gretsch drums combined with coated Ambassadors. Then there's the legendary Yamaha RC, before that the Ludwig popularized by Ringo Starr, while most metal and punk drummers in the 80s played Tama. That's why vintage Gretsch, Ludwig, Recording Customs are very expensive today, some vintage Artstar/Artstar II too. On the other hand, the old Pearl MLX and BLX (I'd say both the old DLX and the early Sessions) sound great too, but they can be bought very cheaply. I would also add a vintage Premier, great drums.
@@markomarkovic5729 Porcaro played MLX and BLX live when he played Pearl. The last tour he played shells that Bill Detamore prepared, with Pearl hardware. The old DLX and stuff like that are really good drums for the price. I can tell we both are pretty nerdy about this stuff.
@@erikondrums Man, if I had practiced as much as I researched everything about drums, such as shells, bearing edges, finish options, hoops, etc., I could probably make a living playing drums professionally. Not to mention cymbals and hardware😂
@@markomarkovic5729 same here, dude😂
Masters maple reserve hands down the best kit
What size is your Zildjian sweet crash?
19"
Maple-Gum number 1!
The multiple mentioning of Jeff Porcaro implies his sound has anything to do with Pearl, I think he sounded great on whatever drums he played
In 2024 when you go onto their website the only master drums listed are the Masters Maple, Masters Pure and Masters Maple/Gum.
Reserve and Complete are nowhere to be seen. Really confusing!
When you are selling a 4 piece drum kit for over $4k, confusing your potential customers is not the best business model.
This is a shame. There is WAY too much compression on this, with what also sounds like some high-end pushed up (especially on the kit). When you do that, it makes everything sound the same. Great video, but you undermined it with all the processing.
Thanks for this comment, I thought i couldn t hear good or my headphones are to cheap.
@@NK-ov6kd ….for what it’s worth, every drummer who’s ever recorded their drums has done that at some point. And, in some cases it can make it sound much better (especially in a mix). But, in a demo setting it can overwhelm the natural sound of the kit. Still sounds great, you just get to hear the nuances that make this kit what it is. It’s all in respectful feedback. 👍
K light ride… 22”? Or 24”?
22"
45 degree? I thought they were 60 degree?
Hi Neal the maple Gum has a 60 degree outer bearing edge, both Maple kits feature the 45.
Barely got to hear the reserve toms at all.
🌹 🌹 🌹 🌹
They all the same for the most part. The way they're eq'd. They sound choked.
Cross laminating is a drum advertising gimmick.. all wood products made of plies like drums, chairs, tables, boats have to be cross laminated to hold shape. It’s just the way multiple wood ply products are made, it’s not a special drum making thing at all.
Consider text boxes and graphics/titles instead of voice over. Would be far more effective when demoing drums.
The maple is way better, so much more control over sound
Appreciate the free content. But this is so counter-intuitive to A. Play in a way we can't even really hear the drums and B. Talk the entire time
Pearl the best reason to buy another brand😂
Cheap finishes
Meni je prelep ovaj beli Maple/Gum, a inače mi zvuči baš predrkano dobro svuda osim na ovom snimku. Od svega što se pravi danas, Masters Maple/Gum i Ludwig Classic Oak mi zvuče najbolje i bukvalno slinim
@@markomarkovic5729 Bubanj koji me trenutno najviše oduševljava je Yamaha PHX. Ludwig Classic Maple mi je isto brutalan, ali mi se ne sviđa onaj novi Atlas mount sistem, čini mi se da previše ugušuje rezonantnost tomova. A što se tiče ovog belog finiša kod MMG, jako me podseća na jeftini Natural Zebrawood wrap od Tama Imperialstar, znam da nije isto ali svi ti krem beli finiši sa prugama me nerviraju, ne znam zašto 😀
@@ivanbajovic3476 Meni beli bubanj predobro izgleda pod reflektorima. Džaba oni suludo dobri finiši, kad se to na bini ne vidi kako treba. Ovako van toga sam se zalepio za Tamin Ruby Pacific Walnut Burst na StarClassic Maple, baš moćno izgleda preliv od neke jarko crvene ka narandžasto-žutoj boji, pogotovo u kombinaciji sa smoked black nickel hardverom. Taj PHX zvuči i izgleda tako da čovek poželi da zalivadi bubreg za njega, ali preteraše ga sa cenom, skuplji je i od Collectorsa. Za tu lovu bih radije ćapio neki boutique set, tipa Noble & Cooley, C&C, pokojni Craviotto, Brady... Ili nešto od lokalnih majstora tipa Sara (bubnjar Dubioze to svira), Sybinco, itd...
@@markomarkovic5729 Da, taj Tamin finiš je baš seksi. Ja se ložim na neki sličan koji je izgleda ukinut, nema ga na sajtu i ne znam kako se zove, ima ga u videu pod nazivom "Tama Starcalssic Maple - Studiofight sound check in studio Macac". A kad si pomenuo pokojni australijski Brady, sećam se da sam umalo pao sa stolice kad sam prvi put čuo kako zvuči, na žalost samo preko videa, ali ono je savršenstvo.
Tom mounts are horrible.
Pearl drums ridiculously overpriced. For drums made overseas
They're fantastic. The toms don't wobble when hit like other brands and hold up for decades. I have two hanging floor toms from the early 2000's with optimounts and they are still like new.
Maple complete is the best, so much control over volume