Fun to see. I sold my suehiros except the 180. Naniwa are my only synthetic stones now. 400, 800, 2k and 3k. And a super stone 3k for polishing as last synth before Jnat. But it's always good to see your judgements. I really appreciate your time spent.
Awesome results!! From another Greg that’s has just started his sharpening journey and stumbled across your Chanel! It’s great to know you can get just as good and better results and not spend double the price! Keep em sharp!
Since I got my Suehiro #5000 honestly I was shocked by the presentation, and then by the result. To be honest, i'm looking forward to buy a complete set of Suehiro stones:-) I think that they are much of a modern stones. Again this is my subjective conclusion based on my Suehiro rika #5000. Great stone. Amazing tactile feeling. Thanks for the video Gregg!
Hey buddy thanks for that. We're gonna have to do some videos where we use an entire system on a knife and just show how the system works. Thank you for checking in with us. The feeling on that product was just ridiculous. It just felt like heaven!
It seems the edges sound quite loud for 3000 finish when cutting the papers? Maybe alternating edge-leading strokes can show how the two stones perform for deburring?
I just ordered naniwa premium 800(its on sell)and I have king kds 1000/6000,so I need the stone to work with my new Naniwa 800,can I go to Ouka3000 or just 6000 from my King KDS is o.k?
I got my Ouka 3000 a month ago and im totally inlove with it. Best feedback, sound, performance, feel, fast cutting, everything you need from a stone and for the best price. I also have Cerax 1000 (1010) and for me it's also the best stone for the price. I'vs used Suehiro #400 and it also has everything to offer with same feedback as the other ones. I think Cerax #3000 is almost the same as Ouka in performance, feedback, sound and i will get it. So far for me Suehiro never lets down and are impressive for the price they are sold for!
Thanks for the Suehiro 3k comparison. It may be that manufacturing improves over time, and the Suehiro may be a newer stone I don't know, but the Naniwa 3k has been around for years. Keep asking about binders and manufacturers may start talking more about them as selling points. The binders DO make a difference. I have a 1,000 grit that is very, very muddy, and dishes easily, probably a clay binder.
I hear you. Both stones were brand new and out of the box right then. Binders do make a difference for longevity. They were saying that because of the density they should get the cutting done really fast as well. I think that they cut evenly. In the end that was just an overall experience that I had to comment on. It just seemed like heaven and for half the price. Even if I had to buy another one in the same amount of time it would still come out slightly cheaper by about $20-$40.
I have a request if you have not compared them yet. I think you may remember me we have spoken on and off before on our experiences/ opinions on whetstones. I would like to see a comparison between the Suehiro Debado MD 4K vs the Suehiro Rikai 5k. I heard before that the debado md 4k is not only faster with better feel but puts a nicer polish. Not that I need anymore whetstones since I have around 18 Naniwa stones but I was Considering getting the 3 Debado MD stones since they are extra large sized and feel a 220, 1k, and 4k set like that may be about perfect.
hey! wanted to ask i want to buy some japanese knife my choice are between kei Kobayashi gyuto red handle damascus sg2 vs sukenari hp40 both are same price . thank you!
kei Kobayashi is the better purchase I think. You can sharpen it yourself. It's not difficult. The other one is famous and generally more expensive so I'm surprised you saw the same price. Kobayashi is a true laser but Sukenari is ridiculously sharp. You can't go wrong you just have to choose which one you like to look at
@@nadm they are both about 380$ in my country , i was also looking tru getting 2 knives overall . Sukenari hap40 + order online kei kobayashi sg2 bunka red handle for 220$ + tax in country or sukenari hap40/kobayashi gyuto + bunka blue steel 2 from musashi clad 230$ after tax . What grit wetstones you recommend for those knives? Already ordered shapton ceramix 2000
@@nadm I try to gain as much knowledge as possible so that my better knives do not suffer when taking care of them;) Part of the knowledge I derive from your channel, so I like to watch various tests as well as presentations of new products from your collection.
@@paweel2494 well, we got a belt sander today. We were doing that in the house. We did four knives and learned a lot. It’ll be a minute before we do a video on it but I’m just like you, I’m learning all the time.
Haven’t tried the Ouka but that Rika 5k is probably my favorite stone. I love the edge it puts on there and I LOVE the feedback- feel and sound, let’s you know what the hell you doing with your edge! Also love that it has no polishing agents etc unlike the Naniwa, so it is a true 5000 grit finish and it’s beautiful (assuming the 3k here has those same traits). My Rika came in a box with almost exact same branding/presentation as that Ouka, different color tho. They must be the same series?
3k Ouka is similar to Rka, soft, silky and great grabby feedback but 3k. You can feel the different grit a bit. Same goes for Suehiro 8k from ther series. Same style feel but 8k.
@@nadm It is a great performer with great feedback. It is on the shared first place on all my 8k stones. A great stone but not fast to grab because it needs soaking.
I'll bet that extra 3mm thickness is gone after 50 sharpening. That muddy softness is from the stone wearing off. It would be nice to see if they both need flattening after 1 or 2 sharpenings.
I don't have the Ouka 3k, but I do have the Rika 5k and I can say that the Suehiro polishing stones last quite a long time, both my Cerax 320 and 1k have noticeable wear after flattening, but my Rika 5k is still holding up strong looks like it's barely worn down even after flattening it when it got dished out to where I felt it was affecting my technique
I also have the Cerax 320 and 1k. Yes they dish a little sooner but for $30ish they last for years. You really can’t beat them. They do great on German steel as well. I also have the Chosera 400, 800, and 3k. For anyone who doesn’t sharpen for a living, I personally feel like the Chosera’s are a waste of money. Some people just like expensive things though. I agree that the Rika 5k feels like a premium stone and leaves a nice satin finish. Take care
@@lz_377 At the rate I'm going and with my use case my Cerax 320 probably won't last me 5 years, probably gonna get the 320 ultra thick to replace it when it's time to retire it. The 320 Cerax is really soft, super muddy, and noticeably dishes even in a single session in my experience but does eat at steel fairly quick, even on my folding knives with much much higher carbide content. Also I think the Choseras have their place for homegamers, they're splash-and-go, good speed, slow load up, etc. Stones are like cars, they all can get you to your destination, some can just do it faster and or more comfortably or pleasurably
@@bowow0807 I’m not sure how much you’re abusing your 320 grit and why you would need to use it so often if you keep up on sharpening? Are you constantly sharpening other folks torn to bit knives? 320 grit is for thinning, extremely dull, or even chipped knives. Maybe you are going to that stone way too soon and something like a 600, 800 or even 1000 would be more appropriate. Not saying I know your situation but your low grit stones should be used less than all others if you take care of your knives on a regular basis. If you are a professional that uses it everyday than that voids my comment about Suehiro’s as my comment applied to the average stone sharpener.
@@lz_377 It's mainly the family beater Tojiro and my wustoff beater that get the 320 treatment though just a few quick passes or if I'm doing some edge reprofiling on my high carbide steel folding knives since I prefer a much lower dps compared to factory, though there was a while I was doing a fair amount of beat up blades and repairs. One time did a favor for a family friend and sharpened six 16in and two 24in traditionally forged machetes that didn't have the greatest edge from the belt sander from the bladesmith. Now that project definitely ate at my stone because of the burnt edge and it was hell getting the burr out and satisfactorily sharp My primary use knives in the kitchen are Tanaka blue2's a gyuto and utility knives and I take very good care of them even now they haven't even touched the 320 yet and have rarely hit the 1k, mainly my 5k rika for touch ups and some shapton 8k and 12k stones and strops to maintain the edge.
I don't have a problem with the Ouka being better value or being a better choice based on price, or if you have a preference for a softer stone, but if you are basing this "battle" on the edge you ended up with, then that is just down to subpar technique or you didn't spend enough time on the Naniwa or the stone before it.
@@nadm I don't doubt that. All I'm saying is you got an inferior edge from the Naniwa and it's not because the Ouka is a superior stone. Softer stones tend to be more forgiving of a less refined technique.
@@nadm No offense, maybe there is nothing wrong with your technique, I don't know. Do you get 50 BESS every time? As I said, it's possible you had a couple of small imperfections that you didn't notice before you started on the Naniwa 3000 that could have used more time on the coarser stone. Bottom line is, you should have an equally impressive edge off both stones by the time you get to 3000 grit if you do it right.
@@thefunk8398 I definitely think that it takes the knife, steel, heat treat, blacksmith who knows how to do all of that. It takes great technique, a lot of patience. The stropping angle has to be correct. Following up with the proper angle on leather with diamond emulsion. Not too much pressure so you don’t roll the edge. So many factors. I like the fact that you can be less proficient in the stone make up for it. It seems a little strange that I have to be so amazing to make something work and I just wish it would work.
I think Naniwa feels a lot harder and can take better technique errors, Ouka 3k is eaasy to cut into. That being said, Suehiro 3k has some great feedback. It is also not for a quick use because it needs soaking for a while. When I want the best feedback I go for suehiros but for ex tempore sharpening I use splash&go or at least semi splash&go stones. I'd rate naniwa feedback average (on scale very bad to very good). Both perform well on all knives I've tried, perhaps Naniwa even has sometimes a slight advantage. I've also found I use other Suehiros that don't need as much soaking more. They have the Suehiro style feedback too, but as you go for more splash and go (like rika etc>cerax>debado) thjey cut less and the feedback gets more muted. For maxcomfort Ouka but often for speed something faster to soak for me. Always nice to see what others think. Sometimes difference in technique makes one hate a stone someone else loves.
@@nadm Agreed and they can soak while using coarser stones, unless it is a touchup starting with the finer stones. I never though soaking an issue but there is a definate comfortance factor with splash&go stones you can just grab.
The NANIWA 3000 is an excellent stone, but when sharpening single-bevel knives it tends to clog, have you experienced anything like it Greg ? Anyway, the sound that SUHEIRO stones make is the best out there, so satisfying LOL
Hey buddy, yes I do experience the clogging and it's so weird. It just bogged down and it's frustrating. I do believe that that's an excellent company but in this case the Suehiro products just really do come through for such a better price. I think the Naniwa is going to always be a long lasting fantastic product and we're gonna have fun testing out the 8K's in December
Ok i'm watching this second time and i just saw you mentioning Suehiro sytones are glassy! Wich stone exactly is that, cuz none of the Cerax line or Ouka are glassy! There is no way Cerax line can be called glassy. Naniwa 3000 is a hell lot glassier than Ouka or Cerax. I also own Debado LD #180 wich is also damn agressive! By default Suehiro stones are agressive in cutting and feedback because they release abrasive non-stop, and don't load up same as many other stones to compair with
So I do not on the Cerax line. I do on the Ouka 3000. They're very smooth and they get sticky until you soak them for about five minutes. I love my DeBado and not everybody uses the same terminology in the same way. My version of glassy could be definitely different than your version of glassy.
The naniwa 3000 is my number one go to finishing stone, in germany its 90€ and the suehiro is 65-70€ but i like the suehiro Products too they often come with a case that you can use as a stone holder and a Nagura and they are not expensive
Haven't even started to watch it. Been waiting for this! I love my ouka and still keep thinking about getting the Naniwa as well. Now let's see what your conclusion is 😊
@@nadm Great the Ouka won. I love the feel on the stone and it's really fast for a 3000. I use to soak it a bit longer, 15-20min. Starting with creating some slurry is beneficial too. I'm not sure about your stroping on the stone after deburring though. After going against the edge the burr should be all but gone. Stroping on the abrasive stone with the edge will create a new burr. No matter how light you go. That's why you normally use something like leather for stopping which does not raise a burr. The sounds of cutting paper were a little too harsh in my experience for a fine 3000 like Ouka or Naniwa Pro. Just my 2 Cents. Great video, great info and great people as always.
Fun to see. I sold my suehiros except the 180. Naniwa are my only synthetic stones now. 400, 800, 2k and 3k. And a super stone 3k for polishing as last synth before Jnat. But it's always good to see your judgements. I really appreciate your time spent.
I appreciate your comments. Good to hear.
Awesome results!! From another Greg that’s has just started his sharpening journey and stumbled across your Chanel!
It’s great to know you can get just as good and better results and not spend double the price!
Keep em sharp!
Good luck brother. Thanks for checking us out. It really is a nice Stone.
Great competition very surprising results
keep up the good work ❤
I'm always equally surprised if you are. I don't ever go in anymore with any type of hopes because I've been shocked too many times.
Finally... I was hoping you would make this.
Enjoy!
Since I got my Suehiro #5000 honestly I was shocked by the presentation, and then by the result. To be honest, i'm looking forward to buy a complete set of Suehiro stones:-)
I think that they are much of a modern stones. Again this is my subjective conclusion based on my Suehiro rika #5000. Great stone. Amazing tactile feeling.
Thanks for the video Gregg!
Hey buddy thanks for that. We're gonna have to do some videos where we use an entire system on a knife and just show how the system works. Thank you for checking in with us. The feeling on that product was just ridiculous. It just felt like heaven!
It seems the edges sound quite loud for 3000 finish when cutting the papers? Maybe alternating edge-leading strokes can show how the two stones perform for deburring?
I don’t understand. I did both edge leading and trailing strokes.
what kind of lapping plate is that?
I just ordered naniwa premium 800(its on sell)and I have king kds 1000/6000,so I need the stone to work with my new Naniwa 800,can I go to Ouka3000 or just 6000 from my King KDS is o.k?
I got my Ouka 3000 a month ago and im totally inlove with it.
Best feedback, sound, performance, feel, fast cutting, everything you need from a stone and for the best price.
I also have Cerax 1000 (1010) and for me it's also the best stone for the price.
I'vs used Suehiro #400 and it also has everything to offer with same feedback as the other ones.
I think Cerax #3000 is almost the same as Ouka in performance, feedback, sound and i will get it.
So far for me Suehiro never lets down and are impressive for the price they are sold for!
In love with that company. It's hard not to be
Love the whetstone battle very much ❤️👍
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the Suehiro 3k comparison. It may be that manufacturing improves over time, and the Suehiro may be a newer stone I don't know, but the Naniwa 3k has been around for years. Keep asking about binders and manufacturers may start talking more about them as selling points. The binders DO make a difference. I have a 1,000 grit that is very, very muddy, and dishes easily, probably a clay binder.
I hear you. Both stones were brand new and out of the box right then. Binders do make a difference for longevity. They were saying that because of the density they should get the cutting done really fast as well. I think that they cut evenly. In the end that was just an overall experience that I had to comment on. It just seemed like heaven and for half the price. Even if I had to buy another one in the same amount of time it would still come out slightly cheaper by about $20-$40.
I have a request if you have not compared them yet. I think you may remember me we have spoken on and off before on our experiences/ opinions on whetstones. I would like to see a comparison between the Suehiro Debado MD 4K vs the Suehiro Rikai 5k. I heard before that the debado md 4k is not only faster with better feel but puts a nicer polish. Not that I need anymore whetstones since I have around 18 Naniwa stones but I was Considering getting the 3 Debado MD stones since they are extra large sized and feel a 220, 1k, and 4k set like that may be about perfect.
I don't have the MD 4K or the Suehiro Rikai 5k. It's not in the budget right now but the Suehiro Debado it's considered they're better line
Thanks . I got the same results with my 3,000 grit Suehiro
Thank you for that!
Hope you guys are doing good. great video! I have both and each one has its place in my shop but I enjoy using the Suehiro more.
We are doing ok. A lot going on. Thank you for your support.
@@nadm np
Isn’t the Rika only the 5000?
You are correct. At that time I was thinking that was more of them because I was thinking of the Cerax line.
hey! wanted to ask i want to buy some japanese knife my choice are between kei Kobayashi gyuto red handle damascus sg2 vs sukenari hp40 both are same price . thank you!
kei Kobayashi is the better purchase I think. You can sharpen it yourself. It's not difficult. The other one is famous and generally more expensive so I'm surprised you saw the same price. Kobayashi is a true laser but Sukenari is ridiculously sharp. You can't go wrong you just have to choose which one you like to look at
@@nadm they are both about 380$ in my country , i was also looking tru getting 2 knives overall .
Sukenari hap40 + order online kei kobayashi sg2 bunka red handle for 220$ + tax in country or sukenari hap40/kobayashi gyuto + bunka blue steel 2 from musashi clad 230$ after tax .
What grit wetstones you recommend for those knives? Already ordered shapton ceramix 2000
@@nadm for all those knifes shapton ceramic 1000 + 2000 + 5000 and later 12000 will be good?
I have a Tojiro 1000/3000 stone for everyday use. I bought cerax 1000 and Rika 5000 for knives from the collection.
Nice. It's cool to see that you're very discerning like that.
@@nadm I try to gain as much knowledge as possible so that my better knives do not suffer when taking care of them;) Part of the knowledge I derive from your channel, so I like to watch various tests as well as presentations of new products from your collection.
@@paweel2494 well, we got a belt sander today. We were doing that in the house. We did four knives and learned a lot. It’ll be a minute before we do a video on it but I’m just like you, I’m learning all the time.
Haven’t tried the Ouka but that Rika 5k is probably my favorite stone. I love the edge it puts on there and I LOVE the feedback- feel and sound, let’s you know what the hell you doing with your edge! Also love that it has no polishing agents etc unlike the Naniwa, so it is a true 5000 grit finish and it’s beautiful (assuming the 3k here has those same traits). My Rika came in a box with almost exact same branding/presentation as that Ouka, different color tho. They must be the same series?
You are correct. I was thinking that there were more because of the Cerax line.
3k Ouka is similar to Rka, soft, silky and great grabby feedback but 3k. You can feel the different grit a bit. Same goes for Suehiro 8k from ther series. Same style feel but 8k.
@@hoggif I love my 8k
@@nadm It is a great performer with great feedback. It is on the shared first place on all my 8k stones. A great stone but not fast to grab because it needs soaking.
@@hoggif I agree with you 100%
I'll bet that extra 3mm thickness is gone after 50 sharpening. That muddy softness is from the stone wearing off.
It would be nice to see if they both need flattening after 1 or 2 sharpenings.
Cool idea
+1 fot the softness,
the naniwa don't need lot of flattening, it's very slow wearing
I don't have the Ouka 3k, but I do have the Rika 5k and I can say that the Suehiro polishing stones last quite a long time, both my Cerax 320 and 1k have noticeable wear after flattening, but my Rika 5k is still holding up strong looks like it's barely worn down even after flattening it when it got dished out to where I felt it was affecting my technique
Thank you
I also have the Cerax 320 and 1k. Yes they dish a little sooner but for $30ish they last for years. You really can’t beat them. They do great on German steel as well. I also have the Chosera 400, 800, and 3k. For anyone who doesn’t sharpen for a living, I personally feel like the Chosera’s are a waste of money. Some people just like expensive things though. I agree that the Rika 5k feels like a premium stone and leaves a nice satin finish. Take care
@@lz_377 At the rate I'm going and with my use case my Cerax 320 probably won't last me 5 years, probably gonna get the 320 ultra thick to replace it when it's time to retire it. The 320 Cerax is really soft, super muddy, and noticeably dishes even in a single session in my experience but does eat at steel fairly quick, even on my folding knives with much much higher carbide content.
Also I think the Choseras have their place for homegamers, they're splash-and-go, good speed, slow load up, etc. Stones are like cars, they all can get you to your destination, some can just do it faster and or more comfortably or pleasurably
@@bowow0807 I’m not sure how much you’re abusing your 320 grit and why you would need to use it so often if you keep up on sharpening? Are you constantly sharpening other folks torn to bit knives? 320 grit is for thinning, extremely dull, or even chipped knives. Maybe you are going to that stone way too soon and something like a 600, 800 or even 1000 would be more appropriate. Not saying I know your situation but your low grit stones should be used less than all others if you take care of your knives on a regular basis. If you are a professional that uses it everyday than that voids my comment about Suehiro’s as my comment applied to the average stone sharpener.
@@lz_377 It's mainly the family beater Tojiro and my wustoff beater that get the 320 treatment though just a few quick passes or if I'm doing some edge reprofiling on my high carbide steel folding knives since I prefer a much lower dps compared to factory, though there was a while I was doing a fair amount of beat up blades and repairs. One time did a favor for a family friend and sharpened six 16in and two 24in traditionally forged machetes that didn't have the greatest edge from the belt sander from the bladesmith. Now that project definitely ate at my stone because of the burnt edge and it was hell getting the burr out and satisfactorily sharp
My primary use knives in the kitchen are Tanaka blue2's a gyuto and utility knives and I take very good care of them even now they haven't even touched the 320 yet and have rarely hit the 1k, mainly my 5k rika for touch ups and some shapton 8k and 12k stones and strops to maintain the edge.
I don't have a problem with the Ouka being better value or being a better choice based on price, or if you have a preference for a softer stone, but if you are basing this "battle" on the edge you ended up with, then that is just down to subpar technique or you didn't spend enough time on the Naniwa or the stone before it.
I got the same burr on both stones. I don't change sides without that and I try to spend the same amount of time on each side.
@@nadm I don't doubt that. All I'm saying is you got an inferior edge from the Naniwa and it's not because the Ouka is a superior stone. Softer stones tend to be more forgiving of a less refined technique.
@@thefunk8398 I have accomplished BESS scores of 50 with my technique so I don’t know why you would think I have less refined technique.
@@nadm No offense, maybe there is nothing wrong with your technique, I don't know. Do you get 50 BESS every time? As I said, it's possible you had a couple of small imperfections that you didn't notice before you started on the Naniwa 3000 that could have used more time on the coarser stone. Bottom line is, you should have an equally impressive edge off both stones by the time you get to 3000 grit if you do it right.
@@thefunk8398 I definitely think that it takes the knife, steel, heat treat, blacksmith who knows how to do all of that. It takes great technique, a lot of patience. The stropping angle has to be correct. Following up with the proper angle on leather with diamond emulsion. Not too much pressure so you don’t roll the edge. So many factors. I like the fact that you can be less proficient in the stone make up for it. It seems a little strange that I have to be so amazing to make something work and I just wish it would work.
Team Suehiro here in general, although l don't use any of their soaking stones. But l also love Naniwa.
I know you love feeling. You have to be romantic about how something feels. Big difference!
I think Naniwa feels a lot harder and can take better technique errors, Ouka 3k is eaasy to cut into. That being said, Suehiro 3k has some great feedback. It is also not for a quick use because it needs soaking for a while. When I want the best feedback I go for suehiros but for ex tempore sharpening I use splash&go or at least semi splash&go stones.
I'd rate naniwa feedback average (on scale very bad to very good). Both perform well on all knives I've tried, perhaps Naniwa even has sometimes a slight advantage. I've also found I use other Suehiros that don't need as much soaking more. They have the Suehiro style feedback too, but as you go for more splash and go (like rika etc>cerax>debado) thjey cut less and the feedback gets more muted. For maxcomfort Ouka but often for speed something faster to soak for me.
Always nice to see what others think. Sometimes difference in technique makes one hate a stone someone else loves.
At least the soaking is not that long. It just seems like you can walk away and do something and come back in here ready
@@nadm Agreed and they can soak while using coarser stones, unless it is a touchup starting with the finer stones.
I never though soaking an issue but there is a definate comfortance factor with splash&go stones you can just grab.
The NANIWA 3000 is an excellent stone, but when sharpening single-bevel knives it tends to clog, have you experienced anything like it Greg ? Anyway, the sound that SUHEIRO stones make is the best out there, so satisfying LOL
Hey buddy, yes I do experience the clogging and it's so weird. It just bogged down and it's frustrating. I do believe that that's an excellent company but in this case the Suehiro products just really do come through for such a better price. I think the Naniwa is going to always be a long lasting fantastic product and we're gonna have fun testing out the 8K's in December
Ok i'm watching this second time and i just saw you mentioning Suehiro sytones are glassy!
Wich stone exactly is that, cuz none of the Cerax line or Ouka are glassy!
There is no way Cerax line can be called glassy.
Naniwa 3000 is a hell lot glassier than Ouka or Cerax.
I also own Debado LD #180 wich is also damn agressive!
By default Suehiro stones are agressive in cutting and feedback because they release abrasive non-stop, and don't load up same as many other stones to compair with
So I do not on the Cerax line. I do on the Ouka 3000. They're very smooth and they get sticky until you soak them for about five minutes. I love my DeBado and not everybody uses the same terminology in the same way. My version of glassy could be definitely different than your version of glassy.
the 3k naniwa chosera pro is used by the experts out in japan for a reason it is good dude maybe you werent on it long enough
The naniwa 3000 is my number one go to finishing stone, in germany its 90€ and the suehiro is 65-70€ but i like the suehiro Products too they often come with a case that you can use as a stone holder and a Nagura and they are not expensive
I’m also thinking that we might get different results for different types of steel. We will explore that at some point.
Where did you get the Naniwa here in Germany for 90?
@@hello.itsme.5635 i have orderd it from knives and tools, its 94€ free shiping at the Moment
Aloha Greg 🤙
Aloha
Was never impressed by the Naniwa....thanks for the comparison...
I think they’re good they’re just so pricey compared to other people that are that good or better at less money
If Chosera was put on the nicer sink bridge, you might have gotten better results from it. JK :)
Lol
Haven't even started to watch it. Been waiting for this! I love my ouka and still keep thinking about getting the Naniwa as well. Now let's see what your conclusion is 😊
I would love to hear your thoughts.
@@nadm Great the Ouka won. I love the feel on the stone and it's really fast for a 3000. I use to soak it a bit longer, 15-20min. Starting with creating some slurry is beneficial too. I'm not sure about your stroping on the stone after deburring though. After going against the edge the burr should be all but gone. Stroping on the abrasive stone with the edge will create a new burr. No matter how light you go. That's why you normally use something like leather for stopping which does not raise a burr. The sounds of cutting paper were a little too harsh in my experience for a fine 3000 like Ouka or Naniwa Pro. Just my 2 Cents. Great video, great info and great people as always.