These Sharpening Stones Are On Another Level! - The Last Set You'll Ever Need, And WHY YOU NEED THEM
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- I test, and review, the Shapton Kuromaku 1000, the Shapton Kuromaku 2000, and the Shapton Kuromaku 5000 grit sharpening stones, with close ups.
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Chapters:
00:00 opening disclaimer
00:09 Why I purchased the 2000 grit
01:00 why can’t I find a dull knife?
01:43 A little about the knife Im using
01:57 The Shapton Kuromaku 1000 grit sharpening process
02:37 1000 grit close up
02:51 2000 grits sharpening process and close up
03:12 The problem with close up knife edges
03:41 5000 grit sharpening process and close up
05:52 Crazy sharp results!
07:19 Final thoughts on this sharpening stone set 
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How are these stones made? What is the binder (if any) that they use to hold the grit together?
What makes these stones so good compared to other low cost China made sharpening stones?
I made the mistake of buying a full set of Kuromaka stones about 8 or 9 years ago. They are the best thing since sliced bread. Only problem I have, I only use 300, 1000 and 5000. I do get dishing on the 300 after a while. I'd like to suggest you turn your stones and use the opposite side, keeping your label clear.
You know you could have just killed the edge on the side of the sharpening stone like DrMatt357 does 😆Way more clean.
Yo ... just a tip about photography or video of reflective objects ...
DON'T USE AUTOFOCUS!! :) In MF, you'll have ZERO problems
getting whatever you want in focus with the right Depth of Field
Can you please do a video about how you choose which micron stropping compound // emulsion ?
Do you prefer leather strops or that fiber cloth thing from jende + emulsion ..? thanks dude.
They now cost double. This is why we can't have nice things...
And then they wonder why people buy from China
The 1000 is $49 on Amazon at the time of this post.
The 2000 is $53
The 5000 is $49
Man, there’s such a deep authenticity to this work/this video.
Not sure if you’re working to try to blow up your channel or just put great things out, but, sincerely, thank you for doing this work
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words 👊
These are great stones, particularly considering the price. I was not aware of the 2,000. I have the 320 wirepuller for profiling machetes, axes, and really dull knives. I also have the 600, 1,000, 5,000, 8,000 and 12,000. Rarely do I use anything above the 5,000 except for some very high-end kitchen knives...original German Hinkle's. I actually prefer a slightly toothy edge on my frequently used cheaper kitchen knives. I will be grabbing a 2,000 as that should bring a kitchen knife to where you really want it. BTW, I always preserve the printed side of the stone for occasional flattening of the other stones. It is amazing the text has held up to this use. If and when it wears off I will mark that side with a sharpy. For those wondering about the wear of the stones...it is negligible. You will eventually get some slight dishing on the 1,000 so, hit it a little bit every 5-6 heavy uses with the backside of another stone. I hit the 1,000 with the back of the 600 then with the 5,000. To check flatness I use the zig zag pencil marking then go through flattening. Very seldom does it require more than a few passes.
there is no 600. Shapton doesn't make anything in 600 grit. They have a 320 pro and 1k pro and they have a 500 glass and 1k glass.
@@jeffhicks8428 You are correct. My bad. When I posted that I said to myself, get off your ass go get them and make sure. It is indeed the blue case one I have marked 320. I rarely use it. I have used it on hatchets, axes and machetes as well as an Old Hickory kitchen butcher knife rescued. I also I use it to flatten my other stones.
Alex, there is lots of knife and sharpening content on here. YOU are my go-to guy. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing this information. Most helpful. I enjoy all your videos and appreciate you making them.
Got the 1000 when you posted your first video about it and I am super pleased. Thank you for tip! Went ahead and snagged these two also.
First rate review ! Will definitely be looking into those . Love sharpening freehand ! Thanks !
Totally agree…….I have the 1000 grit and 1500 grit and love both of them. The 1500 grit is probably my all-time favorite stone of any I’ve ever used including my naniwa’s.
I just ordered these, per your recommendation. I’m excited!
I just bought the 1000 and im blown away. Perfect for kitchen knifes. 10/10 would recommend
I’m just getting into knives, and, based on the comments you displayed, I have a feeling I’m pretty lucky to receive these recommendations at this point in time. Thank you!
Thank you for this video. Excellent information!
I bought one, Alex. I’m VERY happy!! Everything I own is now 1000 grit sharp! Thank you So Much. Now trying to maintain a constant bevel hold - that’s another story.
Thanks for the heads up on this stone. Mine just arrived and so far I think you were right about them.
Some softer light might help your photos. Either a classic light tent or, believe it or not, some LED lights through plastic storage containers.
A tip for viewing objects under microscope/macro lenses: Use back lighting. When the surface is reflecting and the background is dark, it will blow out your image. By using a little backlight, you reduce the contrast, and it will be easier for the camera to get a picture that doesnt blow out the lighter parts of the image.
@@findonknifesharpening you're welcome mate👍
yeah but even more important ..? And a simple point many many (esp youtubers) forget..?
MANUAL FOCUS! lol. And of course, a 'fast' lens (large depth of field) that's just enough for the depth.
@@trumanhw Using AF for this would be a nightmare😂
I self-taught myself to sharpen a few years ago using many of your videos as an aid. I am now in my second year of college, working my @$$ off to pay my way through it. I actually ended up bringing down my sharpening stones after winter break because word that I am good at sharpening blades got out. I was just using my Work Sharp Field sharpener with just the two stones, ceramic rod, and leather strop to help some friends before then. When got my proper sharpening stones down here, I started making money sharpening knives and broad head. I am going to school for Natural Resources Law Enforcement by the way.
Great video and recommendations, thank you!
The Shapton Kuromaku 1000 arrived yesterday. Tried it, loved it. 😊
Love these stones. 1k, 2k and 5k have incredible feedback and each one gives you a great edge that you can use. For my kitchen knives I use 1k mostly (sometimes I go up to the 2k) and then a 7/5 micron strop. The 8k is ok-ish. 12k is an amazing polishing stone if you're looking for an extremely refined and polished edge. Imo for the price these are by far the best bang for your buck. They last forever and measure up to chosera in quality (chosera 10k is butter though) but are much cheaper. Cool to see my comment make it into your video.
I've used these for several years now. I've found them to be excellent for high-carbon steel knives but less so on stainless blades. They still work on stainless but take more work than with other bench stones I have. Cheers.
THANKS! Another GREAT Video!!
I've got the 1000 and 2000, used them for years and I daresay I will pass them on to my sons. They give a scary sharp edge and I haven't bothered to get any others. I have a Norton 4000/8000 combo that I bust out every now and again.
Great work.
This is a huge value for the aspiring pro.
I've been cooking professionally for 35+ years and I had to learn all this the hard way.
I usually stick with the King 1000 grit. It's huge, lasts forever and gets the job done. Plus, I share it with other knuckleheads...
BTW an episode on care and maintenance of whetstones would be great. It's best to store them dry...
I just found your channel and I'll see if you discussed this already.
Cheers, man! I'm still very happy with these too.
Had to go back on this and thank you again! 🎉 I’m going from collecting knives to shapton stones
The Shapton pro 2000 is the only stone I personally need. I have come to realize why people rave about it on forums. I have other stones but this one serves all my needs as I never let my knives get dull. A Japanese blue steel #2 carbon knife on a Shapton 2000 is a match made in heaven. I have read that the Glass series stones are better for high end stainless but I have yet to test that out. Customers' cheap knives get what they deserve: the belt sander.
I started using the Shaptons a few months ago and have been extremely satisfied with them. I use the 5000 in combination with a shale (soft) stone that I collect from the hills here in Belgium for a high-gloss finish.
I have just that set and I do love them.. Rarely go above #2k for kitchen knives. Also have their #120 which I love.
Thanks for the heads up. Been meaning to pick up a better set of stones than the ones i cut my teeth on a few years ago.
I’ve never use a Shapton pro 1000 but I have a Shapton pro 12,000 and it’s held up really well. I’ve sharpened everything up to zdp-189 and it was able to withstand that
I am with you on these stones, for the price and solidness of them, they are superior to anything else I have used. I did spluge on the a dia-flat to flatten them whenever it is needed however. Other than that they are exceptional to anything else.
Shapton is great. I'm very happy with my Shapton glass stones both for woodworking handtools and Global kitchen knives. I still have a few others to change to Shaptons, not because to old ones isn't good but because Shapton just feels better.
I would like to see an honest comparison between Shapton and Naniwa another brand that also seems to make very good stones.
Again a great video, thank you man
Very cool assortment of sharpening stones. I like it
i watched, giggled madly, and was reminded of the book Reaper Man by Terry Pratchett: there's a part where Death is sharpening a scythe blade: "First on a grindstone, then on an oilstone, then on a steel. It was too blunt. Miss Flitworth supplied, from her rag bag, satin, then silk, finest white silk, never worn (from her wedding dress). It was still blunt. Then it was sharpened on cobweb. Then on the breeze at dawn. Finally, on the light of the new day."
From watching your video's i've managed to get to being able to use paper towels and (once) toilet tissue for paper cutting test but haven't managed the hair whittling yet. just gotta practice... and buy better knives with good steel.
Just the video instruction I was looking for. Thank you! Of course, Amazon cost for the three stones total $200, as of today. I'm definitely getting the 1000 today.
thank you for this heads up
Shapton Kuromaku and Naniwa Chosera, they're the best! The Shapton stones come at really great prices too.
Your enthusiasm for the Shapton and sharpening in general is such a delight; thank-you for all the videos over the years. Such rapt devotion to these new stones gives a student of yours, like myself, pause. There have been a few "best ever stones," last stones you'll ever need etc. As always there are plus and minuses I'm sure, but my head spins as we go from DMT fine to Sypderco medium to now the Shapton...in another month, should I brace for the Naniwa Chosera video? Not cheap but surely a man in your line of work deserves the best! :) Did appreciate you looping back with a contrasting comment on the DMT...very much appreciated. This viewer has a delicate case of sharpening stone FOMO and values your experience based opinion! Keep'em coming. ;)
Its very difficult because theres a lot of good stones out there. None of said stones are bad but each have advantages and disadvantages depending on your needs. Thanks for the comment 👍
nice, that mirror edge looked outstanding
My first Kuromaku, the Shapton Kuromaku 1000 that I order after watching the last video, is arriving today. Really looking forward to it and I suspect I will spend quite some time with it and all my knives. Going from the cheap chinese slurry-stones that I been learning to sharpen on I have high hopes for this one.
Woooooah--- that mirror edge! See ya next Prime day stone!
wow great video i really enjoyed it 👍🏻
I discovered your channel the other day. I subscribed. Im really enjoying the videos. 👍
I currently have Norton wetstones in 220,1000,4000 grit. Your making me want more stones 😄
My Set just arrived and the first edge is done. They are amazing in particular if you consider the price. I don't know how much I have spent on sharpening stuff but these could replace most of it.
I have to thank you, these stones are so good and the feedback makes them almost intuitive to use. I bought the 1000 grit and was so blown away I had to order the rest of the set. These actually work on my Japanese super blue steel leather knives.
ofc they work on super blue. it's a low alloy steel that's very easy to sharpen. super blue has like half the edge retention of a basic stainless steel like VG10. And yea these stones great for all of those things, any low alloy steels, any kitchen knife stainless, etc.. Don't waste your time above the lower grits on any vanadium alloy steels though. The 220 and 320 in this line are Silicon Carbide and will cut vanadium steels without issue. Beyond that, I'd use something else unless you actually want a "carbide rich edge."
i might be late but i have a question. is this stone beginner friendly? the stones i have at home are so bad and i just found this vid. would you recommend this to a beginner?
@@anasmuqri7961gotta learn on something, might as well be a good stone that you can’t mess up, can easily afford and you will use for years and years to come,
@@anasmuqri7961Yeah. This guy's made videos on the generic stones Beginners often get, and they're no better than using a brick. These are his recommendation, other than getting a 3-400 grit diamond plate first for profiling.
Hey man. I have a huge collection of Japanese whetstones. i love these stones. I'd suggest you add the 320. it's an INCREDIBLE stone for what it is, which is SIC. So much smoother and nicer than most SIC stones. These stones are known for being extremely hard, wearing very slow and still cutting well. They're great for all that, fantastic for edges. The one area they lack is doing large bevels. That's where other stones like the chosera shine for a sng. or the glass series from shapton which is designed to be more like the chosera. that means it's just slightly less hard, wears slightly faster, still very hard and slow, but... they give off noticably more slurry and do a much better job on big ol bevels and whatnot. They are noticably more friable. The shapton pros are just known for being the hardest and slowest wearing on the block. the 320 which is sic is ofc more friable.
The 2k is one of my favorites. The 120 is an amazing ultra course grinding stone. The 320 is fantastic. 1k is more like 600 or 800 and it's great. the 5k is very glassy and good for deburring. The 12k is another amazing stone. I like it much more than the 5k but it obviously doesn't have the same strength, as in I've reshapened dull razors on nothing but that 5k and it moves steel, the 12k wouldn't do all that. Much higher polish tho. Anyhow cheers.
if you want to venture out. The 400 chosera is maybe the all time greatest stone. you can get a 15 mm version off amazon for like $40. Also a big fan of the naniwa super stones for polishing, finishing, large bevels and doing delicate work like razors.
Shapton 2k is my favorite stone. It cuts fast for a fine stone.
Thanks for your update but can we get back to the super funny regular schedule videos!!😂 I kinda miss em! 💪🏼❤️🙏🏻
Hey, I'm going to try the set
I was thinking about the dmt recommend by you
And today, you appeared with another recommendation
I have the 320, 1000, 2000, and 5000 also. From most aggressive to least my stones are #1 oil stones (low grit only), #2 Diamond, #3 Shapton GlassStone, #4 Shapton Kuromaku, #5 Water stones, and #6 natural stones. The steel often dictates the whetstone that I use. Chef Knives work well with water stones. Diamond or GlassStone work well with hard to sharpen steels. However, the aggressive sharpening stones often do not leave as smooth a surface so I like to finish with a natural stone. I agree this price is very hard to beat for the Kuromaku. It is a good stone. I prefer the 1000 grit to their 5000 though.
Thanks for the video. I have a 1000, 5000 and an 8000 Shapton set as recommended by my teacher for sharpening Japanese Kanna (plane) blades. They work great! I agree the 5000 give very subtle feedback which takes some getting used to. Kannas are arguably more finicky than Western style planes (push planes).
Don't know if you will see this.
But since you really like these. Maybe give the shapton glass a try also. They seem like they might be even more up your alley, since they should dish even less. And are potentially even more accurately graded in their abrassive size.
From what i remember the price isnt much higher, though the stones are thinner. Though it makes up for it with the slower wear.
Hey Alex, great videos, thank you!
A have a sharpener review suggestion. Ikea skarande sharpeners, i believe, have a similar material to this stone.
Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Wish you all the best!
Great stones, really good price! When my Missarka from Zische will wear out I might consider trying them.
I ordered these recently after your first video, since I also had the cheap crappy ones that would dish out after very little time. These stones are amazing! I got the 8K and 12K ones too for my straight razor and that also worked really well. I'm sure that I'll need to flatten them eventually, any recommendation for a surface lapping stone of some sort? I have one that I got a while ago but even that one seems to be low quality as it's visibly starting to get dished out, so would be nice to find something that will work and will last.
Well done Brother
I gotta say, I had to order a couple, the 1000 and 2000, after watching this video and I agree. These are the nicest stones I’ve ever owned. I really like them.😃👍🏻
Glad you like them!
I am a big fan of the Shapton Kuromaku stones. I use them for my woodworking tools. Going on 6 years with them (1500, 5000, 8000, 12000) Nowhere near wearing them out yet, although I do flatten them much more than what I would if they were used for knife sharpening. The 1500 has seen the most wear, and it's used maybe 15% of it's life in those 6 years. Each flattening only takes off a few thousandths of an inch. You have described them perfectly.
Yes wood working tools definitely require more flattening since they have to be perfect. Thanks for the feedback👍
Im looking I to these Stones for sharpening my plane blades. Can you tell me how well they stay flat compared to softer wetstones? Im having to flattening my wetstones before every use for my plane blades an really want to make my life a little easier.
Good info 😎👊💥
@@karelenhenkie666 Sorry it took this long to answer, as I just saw your question. They are very hard stones, and lets say your softer stones need fattening every time, these will allow you to do 3 or 4 sharpenings before flattening is required. It's actually a hard question to answer since there are so many variables. Bottom line, there are very few stones that take longer to dish than these. The Naniwa Chosera line of stones are generally more expensive and are the only ones I've used that last longer between flattenings.
There are people who swear by the Shapton glass stones and they are actually harder than the Kuromaku stones, but I'm not a fan of the glass stones. I find them too hard, if that makes any sense. Could be a failing on my part. The Kuromaku and the Naniwa Chosera stones are among the best out there IMHO. (the newer Naniwa stones they call the professional line are the new version of the Choseras and are more expensive.)
Thanks again
It would be great to have a video about how to care of these stones :-) I saw some laping disc from Shapton, but not sure if that's enough? Also is it a way to flatten the stone? Seems like it is not that big of area with the disc, I planned to use the sanding paper as in your older video. But it would be nice to see complete guide from reliable source (you! 😁) focused on these stones. Thanks for taking me out of the market for expensive sharpening systems!
A good setup King 300, Shapton 1000, Cerax 3000, and Sigma Select II 6000 grit.
After years of trying and failing to sharpen knives on stones i finally managed to get a good edge using you advice about not moving hands/wrists. Ive ordered the 1000 stone and im looking forward to trying it with my new found skill . Thank you
That is awesome! Glad You are getting good results👍
@OUTDOORS55 being ambidextrous helps . I do 4 passes with the knife in one hand then swap hand for the other side
Outstanding video I have the same stones plus a 8000 for really polished edges
There is an 8000 there
I ordered all three today.
I just sharpened my first knife with the 1000 grit stone. Its S35VN steel. I always hated water stone sharpening, but this stone is like a cheat code its so damn easy.
❤❤❤❤ love your vids
You should try suehiro cerax 1000...
I try quite a bit of 1000 grit stone... Cerax is the best for 1000 grit
I love your videos! Can i ask what your favorite way to flatten these stones?
thank you!
Theyre up to $57 now ,as of 1/1/24 ….am a novice at sharpening and have honestly sucked at it for decades but am trying to get to get better and am stocking up on gear …recently got a strop for the first time and a dmt double sided fine/ extra fine diamond plate… the plate is a quandary to me. Most “ how to vids” say not to put much pressure ,so i dont …but cant seem to get any type of real bur (now that i know im suppose to get one lol)….so i use an old cheap heavy grit double sided like a 120/240 (think its like a iron oxide or some other cheap compound of some sort?) and get a small bur line ….when i remove the bur ,finish up with dmt and strop the knife seems to get smoother yes but also seems to dull some ….I don’t know if its my knifes aren’t the $200 blades youre using here (have couple different older buck locking blades ,and leatherman utility blade, mora kniv, oh and a old Japanese straight sheath knife ive had simce the 80’s(that ive had machinists try to edge for me and i get sharper than they did ,though not near what id like )and another buck straight sheath blade . My buck locking blades i can get to half decent edges but they dint seem to hold it past a few cuts ,i assume because of my technique 🤷🏼♂️…hence why im here researching lol…. I don’t know if im ready to buy more stones but your associate link only had like a couple reviews on amazon ,all 5 stars but I don’t know …i hate possibly throwing money away as tempting as this is ….off to read some comments here and decide 🤷🏼♂️😬….oh and you put a link for a “bad” stone ….? It looked ok but ill take your word for it ,odd you put a link for it ..? But as shitty as it is it had a clip on angle guide ,are those (clip on guides)any good in general? Imwomder if im not keeping my angle correct or something ….?
I bought the 1000 grit to start learning how to free-hand sharpen. It's a bit of a challenge to hold the correct angle. I'm trying to lock my wrist as you mentioned in earlier videos. It's a skill I really would like to learn. I have used the Lansky kit for 30-plus years. I appreciate your videos! I also started my first knife-making project out of 1080 steel. You make it look easy, it is NOT!!
Rather than trying to hold your wrist at a fixed angle, you might develop a feel for when the bevel is flat against the stone. It's just as accurate and, IMO, more natural. Our limbs are designed to move in circles and consistent straight line motion doesn't come that easy.
Protip - bend Your knees and keep back straight, the blade should waist high. In this position it's very ease to lock the wrist, since movement is off-center.
This video prompted me to dig through my old water stone collection, only to find I had two very old hand made Japanese stones one at 6000 and a 10,000 grit. I can only imagine an old Japanese master Samurai sword maker finds one day he's missing a couple of his favourites water stones! Absolutely exquisite stones for honing my favourite cut throat razor to a mirror finish hair-whittling perfection. 👍
Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge and experience. ⭐
On a more sombre note: Sadly 'everyday' skills like knife sharpening are not being passed down by parents and I believe these essential DIY skills are what separates a survivor from someone who will ultimately perish when 'consumers' are left to fend for themselves. And that inevitable day is sadly just over the horizon, if humanity doesn't get it's act together soon. 🤔
😂 I did see my name come up in the first minute of this vid! I’ve recently purchased the 2000 shapton and just fell in love with it! Your 100% correct you can go 1k-5k but that middle 2k stone is literally takes the edge to another level! Thanks for explaining everything so it doesn’t look like I’m the only mad person on this planet when I explain to my customers why it’s needed 👍
its cuz the 1k stone in this line is more like a 600 or 800 at best. Great stone for getting the job done. The 2k stone is considered by many to be the best stone in this entire line. It's fantastic.
@@jeffhicks8428 it’s actually extremely close to the 500 shapton glass!! But for the price! And actual performance of the 1k shapton pro! It’s a stone I do take with me to many restaurants and salon sharpenings especially now with the 2k it’s definitely a perfect combo
@@Suttonsharpens yes, the 500 glass is considered to be the equivalent stone to the pro line as the 1k.
My primary stones have been this line of Shapton's in the 1k, 2k, 5k, 8k, and 12k offerings. Depending on what I am working with, I also have Shapton Glass 500, 1000, 3000, 8000, 16000, and 30000 models. These and their glass stones are super freaking amazing! Imagine these on steroids, with even better feedback and "flatness", and that is the Shapton glass variants. a little pricier, but they have their place! Excellent stones for anyone!
I was wondering how the kuromaku compare to the glass ones. Thanks for the input!
@@Jymyte My pleasure! To help a little further, the Glass Stones are guaranteed flat OOTB, as that is the design behind them. They also do not dish quickly, and maintain their flatness much longer. The Kuromaku stones though ALSO come flat OOTB, and I have only had 1 that was super, and I mean SUPER slightly "less than flat" but nowhere close enough to matter when finishing and edge. I can tell you that the feedback on my Kuromaku 8k vs. the Shapton glass 8k is minimal. I would say the feedback is a little more "rough" on the Kuromaku, but not in some crazy bad way, if that makes sense? The glass stones just feel like, well, glass! Pun intended, but of course they aren't called Glass because of that, though... lol If you want to know anything more about them I would be more than happy to answer. I have been using them quite some time now as well as the Kuromaku and use them at least 3 times a week. I just added the 220 Glass variant to the mix , and used it to put a brand new edge on a knife I forged (just to see how easily I could). It was a 1095 knife I forged, and RH was 61.. The Shapton Glass 220 put an edge on it in under 3 minutes. I don't normally do it that way, but wanted to test and see how quickly and efficiently it could do it.
Oh god. The world's worst stone link took me straight to the one I bought when I wanted to get started.
I bought more and the 8000 grit is coarser than the 6000 grit.
I will return what I can and I will take your advice on these three.
In Sweden we have a phrase called "learning money" or rather "learning cost". I spent money and I learned my lesson...
the 1500, any info please. thanks for your great videos
can you do a video on the tumbler knife sharpener i see them everywhere and i want to see what you think about it thanks!
Great videos. I just got into sharpening, you have been my resource. I bought the full lineup of Shapton Kuromakus up to 12k. Now every knife in my house can shave hair. On to mastering straight razors, swords and tools. Thoroughly enjoying this new found hobby
Awesome to hear! Sounds like you're hooked 👍
Can you make some more weird sharpening videos? I love those!!
Shapton, shapton glass, naniwa chosera, naniwa resin bonded diamond stones ♥️
Commenting for the algorithm, thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
I couldn't tell in the video, do you get these wet? I'm really interested in these. Thank you for the video!
Bought these on yr recommendation
I just ordered grits 320 through 5000 after watching this video. I've been searching for replacements for my cheaper stones that dished out, and I chose these over DMTs since I don't really like the feel of diamond stones.
Youll be happier with these. I still love the dmt diamond but they are all work no play. These made sharpening fun again 🙂
Please could you review the naniwa chosera 800, 3000, 8000 combo 🙏🏼
I read a review by someone else on how good those stones are. This person also suggested a lapping plate to keep the stones flat. If you are using the stones for plane irons, would you lap them and how often? After each use?
Yeah, that 1k is an absolute classic. Suggestion: comparison of major stone maker's "X"k stones. Makers like Chosera, King, Naniwa, Shapton, Suehiro. Comparing specific grits and what they are made of and how accurate the "X" grit really is. Another thought: soakers versus splashers; what's beyond the obvious difference.
Id love to do all of those. Honestly the things holding me back is spending the money buying them all. 😂
Chosera is a stone made by Naniwa
Interestinggggg….I’ve been looking around at alternatives now that Spyderco is starting to discontinue their ceramics (not that I *need* any more ceramic stones…but it’d be nice to know of a reliable alternative). I might pick a couple of these up just to see how they compare with my shapton glass stones, Spyderco ceramics, etc. Fast cutting, consistent, splash and go…those are my only prerequisites…everything else is up for debate.
Love Spyderco knives. The only other folder/fixed knife brand that I carry is..., nvmd, just Spyderco...
Could these also be flattened with the sandpaper method you showed in your older videos? I'm hesitant to buy diamond lapping stones because at that point, I think I could already use the lapping stone itself to sharpen.
If you care about keeping the printing on your stones, you can just use the side without it and then your stones look good as new all the time.
Thanks for the video. What brand strop are you using?
I got the shapton 200 diamond as a flattening stone/ profiling others knives for sharpening I got the shapton glas 1000 and 6000. I had mine for about 4 years now and i love them but after seeing this im thinking about getting the 2000 too
The 2k is 🥰
My 1000 has dished actually. I picked up a cheap diamond stone to flatten it but I’m not convinced it’s even worth doing it. Lately after I use it I give it some passes with the diamond to take the edges back down but it’s not super effective tbh.
So I bought a 3 set of these and I might end up returning them, I haven't used them yet. Right now I have a cheap no name coarse and medium stone and a spyderco fine stone that is slight bow in it. For me that's not an issue because the bow is only like 0.5 or 1 mm from side to side but it does rock a bit. I've never done a mirror polish in my life but I can get a hair popping, paper towel slicing (though toothy) edge. The Shapton stones are flatter than the spyderco but the 5000 grit feels more course than my spyderco fine stone.
But the meat of my comment is that the directions for these stones have were in Japanese which lead me to visit their site and discovering these stones have a lot of restrictions. They state not to use detergents to clean as they say that can soften the stones and change it's performance. Same deal with soaking the stones for more than 30 mins in water. They also say the best way to unclog the stones are to using their lapping disc/dressing stone or to flatten the stone with their flattening products, again no detergents or the like. They also say not to attempt to dry the stones, to leave them outdoors, or to use hot water as these can all crack their stones. Also no dishwashing probably because that involves both hot water and detergent. Also I think they might not be sintered like a spyderco ceramic but instead a bonded ceramic hence the weakness to soaps.
Long story short, I'm sure these are extra conservative precautions but they are a hell of a lot more restrictive than a spyderco ceramic stone so I might grab those instead while they're still in stock. Your channel is actually what put me on to spyderco ceramics in the first place so if you see this I'd like to know your opinion, do these perform better than spyderco ceramics and have you experience any loss in performance (you mentioned you do use soapy water which according to the makers is a no no)? And how does the durability compare to spyderco's?
Hey, I really enjoyed this video. As a total beginner, I'd be keen to know how these Japanese Shapton whetstones are qualitatively different from the Chinese 'Alibaba' type whetstones? Do they suffer from the same wear and mess issues? Cheers from Australia!
Would you reccomend a belt style sharpener or stones? Ken onion sharpener for example.
Would you be able to do a review of a Japanese King Stone 6000 and 1000 grit please