@@headsoftech I actually went with some WD Red Pro 10TBs. My personal history with Seagate hasn't been great but this video helped greatly in my research.
Because of the equal capacity and rotational speeds, they won't be any faster than one another aside from small things like cache at the end of the day. Transfer 100GB files and you will get an idea of the sustained rates, which will be almost equal. You are comparing apples to apples. One is just rated to last more than the other. Speeds are not generally affect by that.
Having it in a NAS, it would be bottlenecked by LAN - 1Gbps LAN allows speed up to 125MB/s theoretically, in reality the value is moving around 100-110MB/s, performance depends heavily on router.
Next time use a post it note to block the last 6 or so ciphers/numbers of the serial code. Saves you allot of headaches in post editing trying to censor serial codes.
I've been running IronWolfs for years and they've been good to me, so I'd stick with them. I did own a Red Pro in the past but it was the slower version back when they used to run at 5400 RPM - you can tell the difference. Lastly, I'd avoid 18TB if I could and get a smaller size batch as rebuilding a 14TB drive takes long enough let alone 18TB.
If I was you, I'd get an SSD instead as that'll help with load times, but if it's out of these two for a PS4 I'd just get the standard, unless you find the Pro on discount.
I have the Qnap TVS-873 using 3 of the 10TB Ironwolf drives. I find these drives to be very noisy. They make tons of clicking noises every time they're accessed. You say the Pro versions are even noisier, I can't imagine. You don't have this issue with the Ironwolf drives (non-pro)?
Hey mate, I got mine from eBay, the links I used are in the description. What I did was wait until eBay had a sale - they do it usually once a month with like upto 20% off - you can find codes in the . Just make sure you buy from reputable sellers (99% feedback score eBay plus), great thing about it is that if it's not 100% new and sealed you can always file a complaint and eBay will refund you.
For a gaming desktop user who's just looking for a big drive to download my entire library, futureproof myself going forward, and reliably video edit and watch/make content off of in large numbers, do I have any compelling reasons to get the IronWolf Pro over the IronWolf? Consider also that I have external backup drives and backup manually on a regular basis.
I don't think so mate, the Pro is only good if you can get a good deal on them as they provide a longer warranty and slightly more IOPS, but the difference is marginal compared to a SSD.
@@headsoftech I'm getting an IronWolf to replace two drives with a combined storage of 8 TB. Both drives are pretty badly in the red, and that's with a lot of games not installed. I'm debating between the deal ($265) that 10 TB offers and the comfortable futureproofing of 12 TB ($330). Which do you think is better in my scenario?
@@headsoftech I also found this. If it's legitimate, it's easily what I'm going for. Should I trust this? Is the model number, like, the good one? www.ebay.com/itm/SEAGATE-ST12000VN0007-12TB-INTERNAL-HARD-DRIVE-TDW004726-/143509336266
Not sure about buying from a pawn shop. It's listed as new so I guess the only risk is them selling you one with an out of date warranty - in the past when someone did that to me - well selling me one with a slightly old warranty, I just contacted Seagate directly with my receipt and they extended the warranty to match the guaranteed 3 to 5 years. Warranties are useful when buying as if your drive is going to fail, it's going to fail within the first 3 years, so buying one new is very useful.
Firecuda because it has a SSD component, which will help with load speeds. Not as fast as a pure SSD as it'll only work with the cached data but will be faster than an Ironwolf.
Can anyone tell me the difference (except visually) between the IronWolf Pro 8TB - ST8000NE0004 (with top left circle) and the ST8000NE001 (without the top left circle) I bought 5x online and wanted them all the same but received both types. Is the ST8000NE001 newer and the ST8000NE0004 being phased out? Though both types have a DOM mid 2019?!?
According to the specs, they both have the same number of IOPS but the newer model is slightly (66g) heavier and 5% faster. But that's just the specs, and in real world usage it depends more on the sample you get and test conditions - as even in my tests my non-Pro Ironwolfs sometimes transfer data slightly faster than my Pros - even though the Pros should be faster according to the specs.
Vtudio thanks for replying. Still confused which to keep. So the drives WITHOUT the top left circle on the front is the newer version??? Do you have a link to the spec sheets?
Hello! I have a question, perhaps you can help me since you seem to be quite experienced in this field and I am only starting out: should I buy regular 10TB IronWolf or 10TB WD Red for a home NAS setup (up to 4 bays, potentially only 2 at start in SHR)? They are about the same price, and I will be buying a DS918+ so I am not sure how much of a performance boost 7200 rpm will give me, especially at the potential cost of noise increase and lower reliability... What are your thoughts on this matter? I will really appreciate any help I can get on making up my mind! :) P.S. I've also considered buying Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530 14TB since it is quite cheap compared to IronWolf of a similar size and especially its Pro version which HC530 seems to be aiming at with its top-tier functions, but it appears to be really noisy from what little data I could get on it. It also bothers me that literally no one has reviewed it up to this date, so it is kind of like buying a cat in a bag, i.e. not something a regular user would want to do for a home setup that needs to be a balance of cost, reliability, as well as performance and noise.
Hey mate, I'd go for the 7200 RPM, I've had WD Red 5400 RPM drives before and they were just as noisy as these IronWolf drives I'm currently using. So for me having that extra performance helps, especially when you run it through a NAS system which naturally slows down the performance. Regarding reliability, I haven't had any problems with either the Seagate or WD Red drives before, if I was you though, I'd personally set it up in RAID5 over SHR, as when I tried out SHR in the past it was considerably slower - I've got a video on that topic on this channel.
@@misterxzxc7314 I still prefer the Pros because you get 3 years more warranty period, but it really depends on how much the price difference is. For me I found them for only $20 more brand new on eBay, so it was a no brainer.
It's $772 now, but close enough. Current promo code 'PASSIONATE' runs out tomorrow, but it usually recycles every 2 weeks, so if you miss it I'd recommend holding out for the next promo code. Link: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575349257&toolid=10001&campid=5338218284&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FSeagate-IronWolf-Pro-14TB-3-5-SATA-NAS-7200RPM-256MB-Internal-Hard-Drive-HDD%2F332710986828%3Fepid%3D27023703179%26hash%3Ditem4d771ec44c%3Ag%3A0B0AAOSwWAhcQUx%7E%3Ark%3A2%3Apf%3A0
So giving up a fraction of the speed for a wealth of other benefits. Definitely going with the pro for my main storage dump drive
Thanks so much for doing these video reviews they're very helpful!
Glad it helped mate, which one are you going to go for?
@@headsoftech I actually went with some WD Red Pro 10TBs. My personal history with Seagate hasn't been great but this video helped greatly in my research.
Nice one, I've had WD Red drives for the past couple of years too and had no problems with them. What kind of speeds do you get with the WD Red Pros?
Because of the equal capacity and rotational speeds, they won't be any faster than one another aside from small things like cache at the end of the day. Transfer 100GB files and you will get an idea of the sustained rates, which will be almost equal. You are comparing apples to apples. One is just rated to last more than the other. Speeds are not generally affect by that.
The Pro version definitely has higher IOPS, which is why it also sounds slightly noisier than the non-Pro version.
Would also be handy to see realtime speeds when transfering over 50GB files, like a newly ripped MKV movie.
Having it in a NAS, it would be bottlenecked by LAN - 1Gbps LAN allows speed up to 125MB/s theoretically, in reality the value is moving around 100-110MB/s, performance depends heavily on router.
Next time use a post it note to block the last 6 or so ciphers/numbers of the serial code. Saves you allot of headaches in post editing trying to censor serial codes.
Thanks for the tip mate
Which HDD will you choose between IronWolf Pro 18TB / WD Red Pro 18TB for nas storage and WHY?
I've been running IronWolfs for years and they've been good to me, so I'd stick with them. I did own a Red Pro in the past but it was the slower version back when they used to run at 5400 RPM - you can tell the difference. Lastly, I'd avoid 18TB if I could and get a smaller size batch as rebuilding a 14TB drive takes long enough let alone 18TB.
i just found this video and realized your warranty is over now😂
Thank you. Excellent review and video!
Regards from Brazil
I'm thinking about getting this to use with my ps4. Should I opt for the standard or the pro?
If I was you, I'd get an SSD instead as that'll help with load times, but if it's out of these two for a PS4 I'd just get the standard, unless you find the Pro on discount.
@@headsoftech can't get an SSD as they are really expensive and up to 4tb. While this is cheaper and 8tb
I have the Qnap TVS-873 using 3 of the 10TB Ironwolf drives. I find these drives to be very noisy. They make tons of clicking noises every time they're accessed. You say the Pro versions are even noisier, I can't imagine. You don't have this issue with the Ironwolf drives (non-pro)?
I keep mine in another room, HDDs are too noisy to have close.
Good video bloke. I have never thought about this. It’s a good idea though.
i would love to buy the IronWolf 14TB for my NAS any idea on where i should get it? the price right now is kinda high (Netherlands).
Hey mate, I got mine from eBay, the links I used are in the description. What I did was wait until eBay had a sale - they do it usually once a month with like upto 20% off - you can find codes in the . Just make sure you buy from reputable sellers (99% feedback score eBay plus), great thing about it is that if it's not 100% new and sealed you can always file a complaint and eBay will refund you.
I'm simply impressed with the read and right speed being around a 1/4 of a Gigabyte. For that I'm sold!
Let me know how you get on with it mate.
Quick question@@headsoftech. Will a pc be compatible with a Western Digital and Seagate at the same time?
Yep
Thanks @@headsoftech!
For a gaming desktop user who's just looking for a big drive to download my entire library, futureproof myself going forward, and reliably video edit and watch/make content off of in large numbers, do I have any compelling reasons to get the IronWolf Pro over the IronWolf? Consider also that I have external backup drives and backup manually on a regular basis.
I don't think so mate, the Pro is only good if you can get a good deal on them as they provide a longer warranty and slightly more IOPS, but the difference is marginal compared to a SSD.
@@headsoftech I'm getting an IronWolf to replace two drives with a combined storage of 8 TB. Both drives are pretty badly in the red, and that's with a lot of games not installed. I'm debating between the deal ($265) that 10 TB offers and the comfortable futureproofing of 12 TB ($330). Which do you think is better in my scenario?
@@headsoftech I also found this. If it's legitimate, it's easily what I'm going for. Should I trust this? Is the model number, like, the good one? www.ebay.com/itm/SEAGATE-ST12000VN0007-12TB-INTERNAL-HARD-DRIVE-TDW004726-/143509336266
Not sure about buying from a pawn shop. It's listed as new so I guess the only risk is them selling you one with an out of date warranty - in the past when someone did that to me - well selling me one with a slightly old warranty, I just contacted Seagate directly with my receipt and they extended the warranty to match the guaranteed 3 to 5 years. Warranties are useful when buying as if your drive is going to fail, it's going to fail within the first 3 years, so buying one new is very useful.
What is better for Xbox one x? trying to have less load times on all games and more power
Hey mate, for loading times you really want an SSD as this guy will only give you a slight bump.
Hi thanks for the reply I have one question. What is better iron wolf or firecuda
Firecuda because it has a SSD component, which will help with load speeds. Not as fast as a pure SSD as it'll only work with the cached data but will be faster than an Ironwolf.
Can anyone tell me the difference (except visually) between the IronWolf Pro 8TB - ST8000NE0004 (with top left circle) and the ST8000NE001 (without the top left circle) I bought 5x online and wanted them all the same but received both types. Is the ST8000NE001 newer and the ST8000NE0004 being phased out? Though both types have a DOM mid 2019?!?
According to the specs, they both have the same number of IOPS but the newer model is slightly (66g) heavier and 5% faster. But that's just the specs, and in real world usage it depends more on the sample you get and test conditions - as even in my tests my non-Pro Ironwolfs sometimes transfer data slightly faster than my Pros - even though the Pros should be faster according to the specs.
Vtudio thanks for replying. Still confused which to keep. So the drives WITHOUT the top left circle on the front is the newer version??? Do you have a link to the spec sheets?
@@Mesatallic www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/ironwolf-pro-12tb-DS1914-6-1708US-en_US.pdf
www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/ironwolf-pro-16tb-DS1914-10-1905GB-en_GB.pdf
Vtudio The 8TB 0004 version spec sheet is copywrite 2018 and the 8TB 001 version is copywrite 2019. They must be in the transition phase.
I'd love to have about 24 of these but my poor wallet.
I feel you bro
Can the ironwolf HDD be used as a regular sata PC desktop drive for normal use ?
Yep
Hello! I have a question, perhaps you can help me since you seem to be quite experienced in this field and I am only starting out: should I buy regular 10TB IronWolf or 10TB WD Red for a home NAS setup (up to 4 bays, potentially only 2 at start in SHR)? They are about the same price, and I will be buying a DS918+ so I am not sure how much of a performance boost 7200 rpm will give me, especially at the potential cost of noise increase and lower reliability... What are your thoughts on this matter? I will really appreciate any help I can get on making up my mind! :)
P.S. I've also considered buying Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530 14TB since it is quite cheap compared to IronWolf of a similar size and especially its Pro version which HC530 seems to be aiming at with its top-tier functions, but it appears to be really noisy from what little data I could get on it. It also bothers me that literally no one has reviewed it up to this date, so it is kind of like buying a cat in a bag, i.e. not something a regular user would want to do for a home setup that needs to be a balance of cost, reliability, as well as performance and noise.
Hey mate, I'd go for the 7200 RPM, I've had WD Red 5400 RPM drives before and they were just as noisy as these IronWolf drives I'm currently using. So for me having that extra performance helps, especially when you run it through a NAS system which naturally slows down the performance. Regarding reliability, I haven't had any problems with either the Seagate or WD Red drives before, if I was you though, I'd personally set it up in RAID5 over SHR, as when I tried out SHR in the past it was considerably slower - I've got a video on that topic on this channel.
Can i use both drive in same raid ?
Yep
So will there be a problem when using the standard Ironwolfs in a let's say 12-bay NAS? If yes, what are the drawbacks?
The non-pro (from every brand I've seen) supports a max of 8 bay NAS. I think it has something to do with vibration. So 8+ bays you need pro.
My Ironwolf pro 6tb makes weird clicking sound at idle, have heard its normal, so far, so good, besides that.
So, is the pro worse than the standard? :/
I prefer the Pro as it has faster IOPS, but the standard is slightly quieter.
@@headsoftech I just want to store my files I'm not going to use it as a daily drive or gaming for 24/7 so what do you suggest ?
@@misterxzxc7314 I still prefer the Pros because you get 3 years more warranty period, but it really depends on how much the price difference is. For me I found them for only $20 more brand new on eBay, so it was a no brainer.
NASCompares shows that IronWolf Pro is quieter during read/write than IronWolf
Is the sea gate iron wolf for ps4?
It's a 3.5hdd you need 2.5 HDD to fit in the PS4
Pro or non pro?
I like Pro's as I find them to be the same price when buying on Amazon/eBay, but you get a longer warranty.
Now that’s a good video
difference seems to be $100 aus dollar, non pro seems better value
Hey mate, I got a Pro for the same price of a non Pro on eBay a couple of week ago ($759). Let me check if the offer is still there.
It's $772 now, but close enough. Current promo code 'PASSIONATE' runs out tomorrow, but it usually recycles every 2 weeks, so if you miss it I'd recommend holding out for the next promo code.
Link: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575349257&toolid=10001&campid=5338218284&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FSeagate-IronWolf-Pro-14TB-3-5-SATA-NAS-7200RPM-256MB-Internal-Hard-Drive-HDD%2F332710986828%3Fepid%3D27023703179%26hash%3Ditem4d771ec44c%3Ag%3A0B0AAOSwWAhcQUx%7E%3Ark%3A2%3Apf%3A0
@@headsoftech cheers mate
@@headsoftech cheers mate i ended up getting 2 x 10TB non pro. work great so far
14tb non pro doesn't even exist
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