I remember a lot of people making fun of it when this movie came out. However, like the header says, it was incomprehensible to anyone who didn't have knowledge of Dune books.
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Back when Star Trek TNG debuted, I imagine a number of people said: "Hey, it's that guy from Dune." Now people will watch Dune and say: "Hey, it's Captain Picard!"
@@pilroberts6185 Dude, this is the age of South Park. Don't fall for the anti-political correctness hysteria, it's just a lie to perpetuate racism, sexism, homophobia. Get woke! Also, I was gonna mention Excalibur and you stole my comment. =P
This will always be the original Dune film for me. I'm sure the new Dune will be lit but this is what I think of when I think of Dune, movie Dune anyway.
Yeah because few people do memorable images that burrow into your head like Lynch. The new one will be very pretty but won't look anywhere near as interesting as this, flawed as it is. Also I damn well LOVE this cast.
@@bearhustler I dunno, Blade runner 2049 was pretty awesome in recreating and adding to the original, hopefully we'll see some homages to Lynch's version but I think the new one will be more true to the book.
Love this version. Like a classic MGM movie. The vision of Lynch was singular. Would love to have seen the Jodorowsky version, however. But I think Villeneuve's version will set a new bar for science fiction filmmaking.
Randomly turned on this scene during an afternoon tv showing of the movie as maybe an 11 year old in the early '90s, and was hooked ever since. This is probably the only epic Lynch will ever direct - if only they'd let him make one of the current sequels with his own vision this time.
Not really. At the time the special effects of Dune were mocked. Star Wars and Alien had already come out and they were much better in that department.
Finally got round to watching this and I am so struck by Kyle's voice performance! It's great, it's just very surprising as I'm used to his deeper tones
the cool thing is they really built all this shit. No CGI backdrops in them days. Or very little, like the star wars matte paintings. They BUILT all this (steampunk) decor. My goal my living room looks like this. Also a bald wife. That'd be cool.
ALL computers are illegal in the Imperium, including anything like e-books, which have a CPU that could/can be taken over by an AI via wi-fi. These are filmbooks with recorded cartridges/cassettes that probably can be inserted into the filmbook as needed.
well why not ban water because some other mythical being could shrink itself to a dew drop and climib in everyones guts? No rules in the mythical dune world are there
Herbert was warning us on overreliance one any single crutch or person to the detriment of our growth as a species and its continued survival whether it be from artificial intelligence and advanced computers, geriatric drugs to prescient leaders.
It's not patriarchy, it's the reality of warfare. Danger doesn't wait for us to be ready for it, and the only way to ever come close to being prepared is to simulate danger when we least anticipate it. But sure, gotta be patriarchy.
derek96720 True True. I was being sarcastic about the supposed negative nature of “patriarchy”. Without the damned patriarchy you woulda not exists. Your ancestors would have been killed and your line extinguished long ago. I like dune partially because it embodies this evolutionary wisdom.
Personal Sheilds where blocky but yet imagine if those sheild effects where off it be watching two guys doing gymnastics with each other. And honestly I wouldn't mind watching Patrick Stewart do dramatic ballet as it is haha
That's not a problem. It stems from the need to condense an epic story into one movie. David Lynch deserves credit for cramming so much explanation in. Of course, I doubt you're there after 9 years.
@1401AndersonAve Please, you have no idea what the shields would "look" like. Frank Herbert didn't include pictures in the books. And as for the name pronounciation, everyone who read the books would pronounce it differently depending on where they are from. Granted the movie had major flaws, but I think the shields and pronounciation were not amongst them.
Dune is the Sci Fi version of GOT: Warring Families, Betrayal, Incest. Baron Harrkonen is like a Lord of Casterly Rock. Instead of land and a Castle he rules an entire planet. He wasn’t voted. Same for House Atrades. They’re like the Starks of Winterfell.
The thing is, since a Ebook reader is partly a computer, he couldn't use it, since the Butlerian Jihad prohibits anything like a computer, even the PC's that we use. What Paul is using is called a 'filmbook' or as we might call it, a videobook.
@textthing Some time ago, I introduced a couple of friends to the movie. One of them had been catching up on Star Trek: TNG for a while: everytime Gurney would show up, she'd go: "Go, Captain Picard!". lol
@TheKryten666 actually the Wierding Way in the movie IS a martial art. You see this in the comments some characters make. The weapon was added cos choreographing Wierding Way combat was too tedious I guess :P
@AirOfMystery Some of the extra complication was welcome in the miniseries, but most of the characters were dull compared to this version - Thufir and Gurney were just nonentities, whereas here they really stand out. The casting couldn't be bettered for the most part.
I'm sorry but, Patrick Stewart was a miscast for Gurney Halleck. In the book Gurney was a big muscular guy with scars all over his body from the beatings he used to get from Harkonnen enslavers. You barely see the inkvine scar on his face.
Dune of 1984 is a whole faculty by itself. Any effort after this masterpiece has been doomed to degrading the deep meaning of the play. I am convinced by now that only magnitudes of culture like Jodorowski + Lynch can develop such a project further, where it belongs properly.
I like what they did with the shields here. And I thought Kyle MacLachlan was an excellent Paul Atreides. I did not think he was a good Muad'dib. The sets were phenomenal in this film, as well as the costumes.
In a way,mad eye from Harry Potter is like the Wizard equivalent of Thufir Hawat He knew what he was talking about when he was talking to Harry and the other kids. I know that was not the actual mad eye Moody,but still.....just like good ol Thufir Hawat.
Only thing I never got about the Lynch film was the stupid fucking sound guns. I can get past the techno fetishist Harkonnens, but those sound guns, yeah they're a cool idea but they weren't in the book and they actually detract from the whole "wierding way" thing, which was supposed to be about finely honed combat skills, not "YAAA CHAA" blasters
Lynch's reasoning behind changing the Weirding Way to the Weirding Modules, was that he didn't want "Kung fu on the sand" as he put it. I'd hate to see how they would've pulled off short range teleportation fighting with early 80's effects, It looked pretty stupid in the TV series.
well I think the "stupid fucking sound guns" aka = SFSG 10193 was the best add on in the movie, I think way better then Herbert martial arts, and God Hands blessed Westwood to use it all the Dune Games
Yeah as big of a fan of the books as I am, I have to agree here, there was no easy visual way to showcase the weirding way. It really helped to simplify the story and make it more compact, if the series was redone as an HBO style show then perhaps they could have the time and modern special FX to make it happen properly.
I know this is supposed to take place in a future where humans dont have a whole lot of computers, but those are some big fat ass iPads that Paul has stacked on his desk XD
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"Moods are things for cattle, and love play."
A lonely man will turn to anything in the darkest of hours.
Looking forward to Josh Brolin and Timothee Chalamet doing this scene.
@@meldroc hopefully theres not a flub 10mins into the movie lol.
Have a cow, man.
use of interior dialogue really makes this movie so special
Must confuse the heck out the NPCs.
I remember a lot of people making fun of it when this movie came out. However, like the header says, it was incomprehensible to anyone who didn't have knowledge of Dune books.
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Like Bladerunner, I always found it awkward. The narrative structure would have been more powerful without it. I hope Villeneuve doesn't go there.
@@charlessomerset9754 It's in the books, it's central, I'm sure you could drop it but it wouldn't quite be Dune without it.
Back when Star Trek TNG debuted, I imagine a number of people said: "Hey, it's that guy from Dune."
Now people will watch Dune and say: "Hey, it's Captain Picard!"
In the 80s he was in Excalibur, another great movie that would never be made today because of political correctness.
Hey, it is the guy from Wild Geese II
@@pilroberts6185 Dude, this is the age of South Park. Don't fall for the anti-political correctness hysteria, it's just a lie to perpetuate racism, sexism, homophobia. Get woke!
Also, I was gonna mention Excalibur and you stole my comment. =P
Hey, it’s a guy from Life Force.
he was also in Excaliber
"On Caladan, we relied on air and sea power....on Arrakis, we must rely on desert power."
You can see how the men have an affection for Paul! Only great acting can convey that message!
This will always be the original Dune film for me. I'm sure the new Dune will be lit but this is what I think of when I think of Dune, movie Dune anyway.
Yeah because few people do memorable images that burrow into your head like Lynch. The new one will be very pretty but won't look anywhere near as interesting as this, flawed as it is. Also I damn well LOVE this cast.
@@bearhustler I dunno, Blade runner 2049 was pretty awesome in recreating and adding to the original, hopefully we'll see some homages to Lynch's version but I think the new one will be more true to the book.
The new dune wasn't lit
@Rex, I'm curious if you saw the new one, and what you thought.
@@gizzad
Yeah it was
Back in 84 the shield practice scene was one of the first CG effects and got a lot of applause on opening night.
Amazing!!!!
the reason why you hear their inner voice because the inner voice always tells you the truth
Love this version. Like a classic MGM movie. The vision of Lynch was singular. Would love to have seen the Jodorowsky version, however. But I think Villeneuve's version will set a new bar for science fiction filmmaking.
If the Harkonnens tried half as hard to kill Paul as Gurney did in this scene the movie would have been a lot shorter.
good thing they couldn't really since the Beni Geserit would find out and even Vladimir wouldn't dare go that route.
Everything in this picture is so beautiful.
Soon we leave for Arrakis... I am Patrick Stewart, and I am officially awesome.
😂 This comment is no less true today in 2019.
Iurlan and her commentaries make a big boost to the film, and better
Randomly turned on this scene during an afternoon tv showing of the movie as maybe an 11 year old in the early '90s, and was hooked ever since. This is probably the only epic Lynch will ever direct - if only they'd let him make one of the current sequels with his own vision this time.
For the day, that was epic level special effects!
Not really. At the time the special effects of Dune were mocked. Star Wars and Alien had already come out and they were much better in that department.
@@garrettrains3916 This
@@garrettrains3916 - wasn't Bladerunner just around the corner?
@@anthonyburn1010 Blade Runner came out before Dune.
Roger Ebert specifically denounced the special effects as cheap and looking like they came from a dimestore
This was Kyle MacLachlan's film debut. He's one of the very few celebs to be the MC of a movie with no other films before he did this one.
Finally got round to watching this and I am so struck by Kyle's voice performance! It's great, it's just very surprising as I'm used to his deeper tones
the cool thing is they really built all this shit. No CGI backdrops in them days. Or very little, like the star wars matte paintings. They BUILT all this (steampunk) decor. My goal my living room looks like this. Also a bald wife. That'd be cool.
2:54 I love it when minecraft cosplayers duke it out at a convention
Half expected Gurney to start talking to everyone telepathically 🤣🤣
ALL computers are illegal in the Imperium, including anything like e-books, which have a CPU that could/can be taken over by an AI via wi-fi. These are filmbooks with recorded cartridges/cassettes that probably can be inserted into the filmbook as needed.
well why not ban water because some other mythical being could shrink itself to a dew drop and climib in everyones guts? No rules in the mythical dune world are there
Herbert was warning us. Do we listen? Hell no.
Herbert was warning us on overreliance one any single crutch or person to the detriment of our growth as a species and its continued survival whether it be from artificial intelligence and advanced computers, geriatric drugs to prescient leaders.
Very old post but overrelliance is not the reason for the ban it is because a war against sentient machines 20,000 years before the Dune timeline.
Thinking machines, machines that are human like, we're banned after the butlerian jihad.
NO moods on the Enterprise!
Those Uniforms! Also Thufir is so likable here.
Their citadel looks like Castle Dracula 🤣🤣🤣
Hoisted by my own Picard
Patrick Stewart is the new Abe Vagoda. Always looked old but lived forever.
Fast on the Defense, Slow on the Attack for it is the Slow Blade that penetrates the Shield
One of my all time favorite movies
"Moods are things for cattle and love-play." How I love the space patriarchy.
It's not patriarchy, it's the reality of warfare. Danger doesn't wait for us to be ready for it, and the only way to ever come close to being prepared is to simulate danger when we least anticipate it. But sure, gotta be patriarchy.
derek96720 True True. I was being sarcastic about the supposed negative nature of “patriarchy”. Without the damned patriarchy you woulda not exists. Your ancestors would have been killed and your line extinguished long ago. I like dune partially because it embodies this evolutionary wisdom.
Or: Mood's a thing for cattle and women, young pup,mood is not for fighting.
Personal Sheilds where blocky but yet imagine if those sheild effects where off it be watching two guys doing gymnastics with each other. And honestly I wouldn't mind watching Patrick Stewart do dramatic ballet as it is haha
Don't trust him Paul! He's a bloody Cylon going to betray all of you!
oh my god. He was so cool when he was younger.
Giedi Prime always looked like a marble.
The decor and the weapons and stuff, is totally steampunk, 30 years before steampunk!. Striking.
Robert Maybeth fuck steampunk and the nerds who wear it. Nerd culture will ruin humanity
Nah, steampunk existed back then, but we just didn't call it that.
Check out the old Metal Hurlant and Heavy Metal magazines.
i always thought it had a guilded, heavy look
@@tsopmocful1958
Steampunk exists since the 19. Century, but they didnt call it that way.
Does Patrick Stewart ever age?
no, he was born old.
Earl grey TEA is his elixar of youth hahah
No. He gets better with Experience.
The better question is, did he ever have hair?
I guess the plus side of ageing young is you can have great roles your whole life and never seem to age or change like other actors
One little problem(or maybe big one) is that most all of the dialog is exposition. People explaining things and asking for explanations from others.
That's not a problem. It stems from the need to condense an epic story into one movie. David Lynch deserves credit for cramming so much explanation in. Of course, I doubt you're there after 9 years.
@@neub4321 No, it's most definitely a problem.
Dr Yueh sounds like Pee Wee Herman in The Blues Brothers: "we have a Dom Perignon for $120."
Always loved that line from Gurney
You had fought one whip below your abilities
I’d give you a nasty scar to remind you!!
"She was ordered to bear only girls..." Someone explain to Frank Herbert how chromesones work 😂
@1401AndersonAve Please, you have no idea what the shields would "look" like. Frank Herbert didn't include pictures in the books. And as for the name pronounciation, everyone who read the books would pronounce it differently depending on where they are from. Granted the movie had major flaws, but I think the shields and pronounciation were not amongst them.
Paul would probably consider it a machine made in the likeness of a human mind, and destroy it.
It's funny I spent most of BSG seeing Cavill and thinking "Fuck You, Doctor Yueh" and now I see doctor Yueh and think "Fuck you Cylon"
Wow Ipad back in 1984!
Your work is excellent and appreciated.
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ゆっくりとは「侵入出来る」という設定もカッコ良い！
この映画の中のピカードが（パトリック・スチュアート）が一番カッコ良いなあ！！！
Long live House Atreides! Long live the Duke!
Ditto. Hats off to the Atreides
LONG LIVE DUKE LETO!!!
Patrick Stewart sure has The Voice !
The guy with the eyebrows was in krull!
Philly B ...He was but sadly recently deceased (RIP Freddy Jones). More to your point Lady Jessica (Francesca Annis) was also in Krull.
@@koroba01 wasnt she the spider lady?!
@@phillyb8347 ...correct!
He was also in "Firefox" with Clint Eastwood.
Yeah I never really understood why anyone believed the Harkonnens were gonna give up that fat contract ... Obviously it was a trap.
The actor they have playing Thufir Haway looks like a straight Dumbeldore.
Still the best Dune ❤
Dune is the Sci Fi version of GOT: Warring Families, Betrayal, Incest. Baron Harrkonen is like a Lord of Casterly Rock. Instead of land and a Castle he rules an entire planet. He wasn’t voted. Same for House Atrades. They’re like the Starks of Winterfell.
@Soham Sharma I could feel you cringing in horror through the screen😂
@@dalpaengi And he'd be damn right.
The thing is, since a Ebook reader is partly a computer, he couldn't use it, since the Butlerian Jihad prohibits anything like a computer, even the PC's that we use. What Paul is using is called a 'filmbook' or as we might call it, a videobook.
@textthing Some time ago, I introduced a couple of friends to the movie. One of them had been catching up on Star Trek: TNG for a while: everytime Gurney would show up, she'd go: "Go, Captain Picard!". lol
@textthing I'm Patrick Stewart and this is my favorite store on Arrakis.
@TheKryten666
actually the Wierding Way in the movie IS a martial art. You see this in the comments some characters make. The weapon was added cos choreographing Wierding Way combat was too tedious I guess :P
that ended up being the sacrificial engineer from promethius
Coming in like the Lollipop Twins
CATTLE AND LOVEPLAY
here you see Paul watching RUclips videos. Or is it Bitchute?
Weirding modules are available used on Ebay.
@Banzay27
I'm Patrick Stewart, and with a head like this, I should be Duke.
@AirOfMystery
Some of the extra complication was welcome in the miniseries, but most of the characters were dull compared to this version - Thufir and Gurney were just nonentities, whereas here they really stand out. The casting couldn't be bettered for the most part.
It is actor quality
I'm sorry but, Patrick Stewart was a miscast for Gurney Halleck. In the book Gurney was a big muscular guy with scars all over his body from the beatings he used to get from Harkonnen enslavers. You barely see the inkvine scar on his face.
Would of been more accurate to have them fencing with rapiers also gurney should be ugly and scarred. A blue vien scar traces his jawline
Dune of 1984 is a whole faculty by itself. Any effort after this masterpiece has been doomed to degrading the deep meaning of the play. I am convinced by now that only magnitudes of culture like Jodorowski + Lynch can develop such a project further, where it belongs properly.
I like what they did with the shields here. And I thought Kyle MacLachlan was an excellent Paul Atreides. I did not think he was a good Muad'dib.
The sets were phenomenal in this film, as well as the costumes.
In the extremely far future, the Fairbairn Sykes dagger is still preferred!
Jean luc pacard before he was captain of the enterprise.
One of his past lives.
Saw this on VHS in the mid 80s in middle school..cool ass movie then but twisted as hell.
Is there a downloadable version available anywhere? Since this one has parts missing and the quality has suffered quite a bit from youtube updates.
Dem eyebrows.
The guy with the dodgy moustache Is that Al from Quantum leap?
Yup!
and Jack Gretzky from the Miami Vice episode "Bushido".
Is there a way to download the entire novel cut?
I remember reading about the massive eyebrows all mentats have.
Must be a british chap.
ah crap....what does Thufir say @ the end of the clip? it sounds like Latin....i never got that before...
Shield practice before heading to a planet where the shields don't work. Genius
Oh the shields work...they just attract worms. Wait...what?
They don't work in the open desert.
Mmmmmmmmm young Kyle MacLachlan as Paul is puuuuurfect nom nom nom
Did you know 13 years ago there would do a remake of Dune then? How many people are watching this now when they saw the 2021 Dune?
In a way,mad eye from Harry Potter is like the Wizard equivalent of Thufir Hawat
He knew what he was talking about when he was talking to Harry and the other kids. I know that was not the actual mad eye Moody,but still.....just like good ol Thufir Hawat.
Ikr,wizard mentat.
Do this LEGO's characters LMAO ...
Don't like lego but that would be lit!
Must not be the movie version. I don’t remember mention of skin destroying sand
Patrick Stewart all most sounds Irish
You mean "almost".
And you almost spelt 'almost' correctly.
3:24 who is that man and what did he do to Paul????
Thats the spirit !
I see what they mean by show don't tell. Too much exposition.
which pixel is Dune?
Only thing I never got about the Lynch film was the stupid fucking sound guns. I can get past the techno fetishist Harkonnens, but those sound guns, yeah they're a cool idea but they weren't in the book and they actually detract from the whole "wierding way" thing, which was supposed to be about finely honed combat skills, not "YAAA CHAA" blasters
Lynch's reasoning behind changing the Weirding Way to the Weirding Modules, was that he didn't want "Kung fu on the sand" as he put it. I'd hate to see how they would've pulled off short range teleportation fighting with early 80's effects, It looked pretty stupid in the TV series.
Vaultboy101
They made it look like Super-Speed in the Mini-Series Movies.
well I think the "stupid fucking sound guns" aka = SFSG 10193 was the best add on in the movie, I think way better then Herbert martial arts, and God Hands blessed Westwood to use it all the Dune Games
Yeah as big of a fan of the books as I am, I have to agree here, there was no easy visual way to showcase the weirding way. It really helped to simplify the story and make it more compact, if the series was redone as an HBO style show then perhaps they could have the time and modern special FX to make it happen properly.
This whole sequence nearly died from exposition toxicity.
@MasterOhSo
C-3PO says: "I don't know why there's a mob chasing us, but I'm sure this is all YOU'RE fault!"
And I also thought the late Freddie Jones was a hammy over actor in his brash delivery of lines not restrained at all.
I know this is supposed to take place in a future where humans dont have a whole lot of computers, but those are some big fat ass iPads that Paul has stacked on his desk XD
Film books ;)
@Lord Chimera So they dont want computers that imitate the human mind, but have computers that can touch the human mind?
@Lord Chimera It looks like that law is constantly broken, and a lot of blind eyes are turned all the same
Someone show Paul an Ipad and blow his mind plz :p
Hey is that guy from show girls
Cutting edge graphics
I love a lot about this movie, but I hate those stupid "weirding modules". Furthest thing from anything in the book.
Their version of Wikipedia really sucks.
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stick to the source and you can do no wrong
This is the only dune movie
Early iPads.