Decided to post this on the Clips channel because I want the main channel to stick to higher effort content. Thanks for being here! I pinky promise to upload more frequently
Cul de sac is a pretty common road feature in suburbs. They definitely need to work on that. The car should be able to turn 180 within the curbs though. That is how they are designed.
Cool, and I have to thank you for your commentary! It really adds to your videos. It’s nice that you ad the commentary in post production so you have the time to decide what to highlight and comment on. Other RUclipsrs talk as they are driving, which is nice, but a lot of times they will reference something that happened but usually don’t go back and study it and make a come up with a well thought out response.
With this current intention notification text on the top and refined visualistion FSD Beta just got your videos look even more professional, crispier and informative. Great job Mr AI DRIVR
So glad to see you got it, because you deliver some good quality. The narration and the small little details that makes a difference. Hoping to see more when you get the time. ❤️
Visualization of relavant traffic lights, deceleration and stop visualization in the planned blue path, much stable in close planned path, all seems pretty promising improvements! Well done, I had been waiting for this update like forever.
This looks like city driving visuluzation, i have fsd subscribtion, how come my modle 3 visulization dont turn after stop sighns or proced untill i press the accelarater, is it bc u have a diffent car?
2023.2.10, any idea? Ever since subscribing tu fsd, no new update available, and no update since, b4 or after, last update was about a month ago, and first subscription annitiation was 2 weekes ago, i was expecting a downloadable update, but soon as i subscribed, recived summon, red light stops, stop sighn stoppin, but NO full screen Visualization even though i have full self driving preview taggled on in my settings, im GOING BALD! Oh yea and no download since subscription, thats what i mean
Amazing dedication taking this drive at 3am. Much appreciated your video being the first I saw of v11. Looks good so far. Keen to see how it handles more traffic being on the road. Eagerly awaiting your next video!
Legend! Thank you so much for staying up late and getting a video out for us! Even with a quick drive, editing, and commentary it’s impressive and appreciated!
Your voice is so soothing, I love that you include the sound from inside the car, the road noise adds to that calm feeling. I'm so excited to see what content you have for v11.
Great to see V11 first time from a quality video producer! Agree with your observations, I think Tesla has been 'forced' by the traffic regulations / regulators to obey the stop signs, it's safety! That's foremost in Tesla's mission for their vehicles as we all know. Blue 'tenticle' improvements, lane keeping looks smother and more defined in its selection, braking rate seems gradual and smooth. HW3 looks excellent, we'll always be looking for improvements HW4 etc, look how mobile phones have evolved over time. I think FSD is improving / evolving steadily - it's a very complex task. Thanks for sharing, safe driving!
Your video is the first vs 11 drive, so thank you for being fast! Pretty impressive drive. I can’t wait until I get the update, and I’m sure I will be pushing the car through the stop signs to avoid the agonizing wait and to avoid being honked at.
Very impressive! 1:00 Messaging up top is much safer than down below. 1:20 Posted speed response was magic. 2:02 Lane hunting was always scary dangerous. Earlier lane change signaling a great improvement. 3:44 Projecting the lane markings will be much welcomed, giving drivers a choice where to go, by manually signaling. (A simple “bailout” feature that could well be included in early Robotaxi versions.) 3:52 A full wheel stop for .1 second is physically just as much as a stop as for 2 seconds, even considering inertial loadings. The NHTSA just needs some basic lessons in physics to overcome their “notional” conclusions. Just looking for headlights at that intersection would’ve been 6x safer than human & allowed for a much smoother crossing. 5:12 Right turn lane bias. Wow! 6:25 Another opportunity for a built in TSD (Touch for U-Turn) bailout function? 8:32 I’ve never liked double line crossing, so always drive the “proper” virtual turn lane, in the absence of other traffic. Seems like AIs should be given that choice, which should become the norm, once they begin to predominate. 9:25 That skill would’ve taken me through the back country AK roads in snow flurries during the winter of ‘19 (but maybe not at 60MPH)! It’s superior vision surely would’ve kept me from slipping onto the soft shoulder during one sketchy bit!
This is just a great update and your commentary is excellent. I am really pleased to hear your first impressions. There is absolutely no reason to hide this away in a second channel. In fact we would like a lot more of these quick updates to get your first impressions please. Thanks
Thanks for getting this out to everyone so quickly! There's a lot of interest in this version and you always do a great job exploring its capabilities -- even @ 3a. :-) Keep it up!
Impressive. Thanks for the update and so glad you got v11! This looked really smooth AND it already passed some tests prior versions failed at. Progress!!!
This is hilarious kkkk Just watched the previous video and acceped "ok... maybe v11 won't come anytime soon, lets lower the expectations a bit for a few weeks or months..." 12 hours later: v11 arrived!!
Crying about the late V11 worked out to be effective! I am glad you have it first. I am back to checking for updates in my car every couple of hours for the next week I guess...
Thanks AIDRVR for testing and releasing this latest video. Your visualization method looks good with V11. Sorry you had to work past 3am to release this video. Good job. :) Looking forward to trying this myself.
This video is amazing. I'm excited to get version 11. I really am a fan of FSC, but I have a few issues. My Model Y follows too close to the car in front of me. I have the follow distance set to the max of 7, but I don't think I'm ever more than 2.5 car lengths behind the car in front of me. I turn off FSD sometimes due to the close proximity of the car in front of me. The issue is the same in town and on the highway. Also, FSD completely ignores school speed zones. When the yellow lights are flashing, the speed limit is 25 mph, but if I don't hit the brakes, my car will continue to go the normal speed limit of 35-45 mph.
On normal 2 lane roads, not highway, I totally agree with you. Follow distance on these roads is way too uncomfortable. The dial in follow distance does not seem to apply to non highway driving. It has been a BIG issue with me from the beginning. I hope in this update, we will beable to dial in the follow distance as we see fit. As I seem to be on the bottom of the FSD beta list, it will be awhile before I know. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the post, I thought I was alone with this issue.
Wow… A 3am drive would be extremely hard for most people (work, kids life, etc.), but you took the time to do it was a great video to get out there. This is also my first V11 video. Hope I get it soon as well. 👍🏽⚡️😎
Good video. Thanks. Easiest way to get ticketed in California is to roll through a stop sign (and of course speeding in front of a cop.) At least according to my group of family and friends. So I'm cool with full stops. Even when I was doing all the driving. It's not easy to do. Of course I've also heard of people who've just rear ended one of my group jumping out and saying, "I didn't think you were going to stop at that stop sign." Count the stop signs in a trip and add what, 5 seconds each? That extra always less than a minute is worth not getting a ticket.
I really don’t get why the USA has so many 4 way stop sign intersections. Why don’t u guys use more roundabouts and give way signs? Why have stop signs if no one stops it just seems ridiculous.
Another great video and your initial first impressions. Looking forward to your more detailed review and for V11 to be pushed out to me. I think it might also be interesting to compare if HW 4 (now that it is being pushed out) if "better" than than earlier version of 2.5 of 3.0.
Great video as usual, thanks. 👍 Rolling through a stop sign will earn you a very expensive ticket and points on your licence where I live, if a cop is watching (Australia 🇦🇺).
1:40 The speed limit signs are the number one thing I've wanted fixed for a while. So glad they've finally done something about them! And I strongly agree on the stop sign roll-through, I wish NHTSA didn't get so anal about that considering literally everyone does it here haha Also hoping that the improved no-mapdata performance means it won't continue trying to get into the right lane for an upcoming merge+left (which it does a *lot* at a road by me), but we'll see.
One of the biggest things holding AI back seems to be decision-making where it keeps flipping between two decisions. In a way, it's similar to humans because it was literally given human-esque qualities and drives on roads with other humans. None of this would be a problem in a world with only robot cars.
So True. We have mix of mostly human drivers is mostly responsible, but once in a while do some whacky stuff, just like FSD does, but we know why humans do it, but we don't know why the FSD does what it does sometimes. Sure, Tesla AI programmers will be able to see the results and figure out why it did the things it did when it went wacky at that point, but the unknown from the driver's perspective who is responsible is pretty scary at times.
In Florida you are expected to make full stop like that. the old behaviour would have definitely resulted in a few tickets. But man I wish it was a setting so that people like you can set it to best fit typical behaviour in your area. Maybe the NHTSA will lighten up on this as it develops.
Yeah, that would be nice, but let Tesla programmers fix the PROBLEMS first. That is more important. Yes, the drive would be more enjoyable if we have a settings like that, but if we set too many limitations, then the AI will be too restrictive. The best AI program is as simple as it can be and that is what you want in a programming codes. It is a nuisance on a drive, but at least it doesn't try to crash you into a ditch, or another object. Their primary concern is for you to not crash. That is their first concern. Also, AI NEEDS to learn it by itself using the AI code the programmers have written. I think they know what they are doing, so let them do the things that needs to be done FIRST.
I know it's said all the time and I know of course that RUclips pays you, but thank you all the same for sharing these videos. It's fascinating to see exactly how AI based vehicle control is progressing.
I just found this video/channel. And I’m wondering a lot why this isn’t on the main channel. That’s why I subscribed there. Now I’m also subscribed here.
90% of the time yeah, but we mostly have give way. If there is stop it's usually for good reason which becomes apparent when you actually stop. Usually its high speed intersections, or fences/trees/parking blocking visibility. Cops are generally chill and polite but no second chances on stopping or speeding. Fine aside its like 4 of max 12 points against you per 3 years.
In Mexico, STOP often means YIELD. If you stop at some of these stop signs, the people behind you will either pass you if there's room, or honk. Tourists get honked at ;)
I am happy with 2 seconds fullstop, as a passenger i would feel safier at least while i'm getting used to the technology. Anyway the AI it's working great it was a very nice video!
Visualization seems improved, and hopefully the smooth/stable driving holds up even in high traffic situations. Although, some negative points: I think the AI being more "careful" will not do it any favors, because even for me as a German, the stop at the stop signs is quite long, at least for a situation with little/no other traffic. When it's obvious nobody's coming, Humans just go. Something they teach you in driving school (at least here) is that being too overly cautious for no reason can actually create dangerous situations, because you are provoking other drivers into misinterpreting your intentions. So, it's really not good that an AI has to be so slow - I think that definitely has the potential to make Human drivers misjudge what an AI car will actually do! Also, I really don't like how slow and long the car takes when "creeping" forward - that's not "creeping", that's more like stopping in the middle of the damn road! Again, huge potential for Human drivers to misjudge how and when the car will actually commit to a decision (if someone was behind you, waiting). Some of the problems are unique to the US road system, so that's interesting to see as always: It's almost like 4-way stop sign intersections are a reaaallly dumb idea, and so absurdly inefficient and unnecessary, they are bound to frustrate Humans into breaking the rules. Whenever an AI has to follow rules nobody else follows, we are going to see a lot of friction between Human and AI drivers, potentially causing dangerous situations. No sure what the solution for that is. Thanks for making this video! Also, really cool to see the AI master rough road conditions so well! I liked how it kept on the right side of the road, like you have to do if someone else came up ahead.
I like how the turn signal comes on earlier. Much less confusing for other drivers when the car slows (from their perspective) for no apparent reason. It is particularly bad when there is no lane bias on the approach to the turn. Now, if it could only understand Texas driver mentality.😂
id say its steady progress. each major update comes with new systems which have to be trained which dont always act properly or may affect other systems. when tesla fixes it they then move on to the next so you dont spend long with the 'perfected' system and back to the first version of the next upgrade with bugs. This version seems like they held it back for quite some time while they continues to update and refine it. This is a .3 release, not even the first one, its just it wasnt available to anyone previously. Tesla has not only gone to a single stack, but also replaced various neural nets with a two step process of two different NNs instead of just one which also gave improvements. Tesla is also continuing to work on their systems and improve the occupancy network but all of it takes time and the staff can only work on so many things at once. The next refined version may be the last one many people have for awhile, depending how the next versions go. im sure a lot of people will be happy to have this next version and will want to hang onto it for awhile.
Wow, is it a joke ?! The FSD is anticipating speed limit that are higher than current ?! It's not expected, it's just for speed limit lower than current ... how can it be so stupid ... At least for France, speed limit must be applied just after speed limit sign, not before. Very nice video, thanks.
I know you're a bit annoyed by the stop behavior but I actually like it - I live in a totally different part of the country than you in a much less densely populated area, and around here a "california stop" is a great way to get a weirdly expensive ticket, or get t-boned by a lifted truck going 50 in a 35. It might be annoying for you but in terms of overall safety it's a good decision on the whole. It might be nice if they were smarter and had the car behave differently depending on location and even what type of intersection it's at, but barring that it's probably best that the default is over-cautious if we ever want this thing to be taken seriously.
i spoke to a cop and technically you don't need to stop for any amount of time other than for an instant to get 0mph on your speedometer. as long as you actually stop to 0mph you're good
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Decided to post this on the Clips channel because I want the main channel to stick to higher effort content.
Thanks for being here! I pinky promise to upload more frequently
Pinky promise it. 🫣
Cul de sac is a pretty common road feature in suburbs. They definitely need to work on that. The car should be able to turn 180 within the curbs though. That is how they are designed.
You have such high standards, I think this video is great! Thanks for sharing so quickly 😊
how fortunate that i didn't slash my wrists after your "there is no hope"-video yesterday 😉
Cool, and I have to thank you for your commentary! It really adds to your videos. It’s nice that you ad the commentary in post production so you have the time to decide what to highlight and comment on. Other RUclipsrs talk as they are driving, which is nice, but a lot of times they will reference something that happened but usually don’t go back and study it and make a come up with a well thought out response.
The timing on the last video about v11 is comedy gold! Glad you got it sooner than later 👌
With this current intention notification text on the top and refined visualistion FSD Beta just got your videos look even more professional, crispier and informative. Great job Mr AI DRIVR
2:43 It thought the sign was a 45mph but as it got closer corrected itself switching to 40mph. Very cool
Wow, good eye! :)
Pretty cool!
Nice 👍
So glad to see you got it, because you deliver some good quality. The narration and the small little details that makes a difference. Hoping to see more when you get the time. ❤️
Visualization of relavant traffic lights, deceleration and stop visualization in the planned blue path, much stable in close planned path, all seems pretty promising improvements! Well done, I had been waiting for this update like forever.
This looks like city driving visuluzation, i have fsd subscribtion, how come my modle 3 visulization dont turn after stop sighns or proced untill i press the accelarater, is it bc u have a diffent car?
@@blucarrots381 Check your settings maybe? What version are you on?
2023.2.10, any idea? Ever since subscribing tu fsd, no new update available, and no update since, b4 or after, last update was about a month ago, and first subscription annitiation was 2 weekes ago, i was expecting a downloadable update, but soon as i subscribed, recived summon, red light stops, stop sighn stoppin, but NO full screen Visualization even though i have full self driving preview taggled on in my settings, im GOING BALD! Oh yea and no download since subscription, thats what i mean
@@eubikedude version 11.1
Amazing dedication taking this drive at 3am. Much appreciated your video being the first I saw of v11. Looks good so far. Keen to see how it handles more traffic being on the road. Eagerly awaiting your next video!
Legend! Thank you so much for staying up late and getting a video out for us! Even with a quick drive, editing, and commentary it’s impressive and appreciated!
Your voice is so soothing, I love that you include the sound from inside the car, the road noise adds to that calm feeling. I'm so excited to see what content you have for v11.
Great to see V11 first time from a quality video producer!
Agree with your observations, I think Tesla has been 'forced' by the traffic regulations / regulators to obey the stop signs, it's safety! That's foremost in Tesla's mission for their vehicles as we all know.
Blue 'tenticle' improvements, lane keeping looks smother and more defined in its selection, braking rate seems gradual and smooth.
HW3 looks excellent, we'll always be looking for improvements HW4 etc, look how mobile phones have evolved over time.
I think FSD is improving / evolving steadily - it's a very complex task.
Thanks for sharing, safe driving!
I've watched various FSD Beta channels over the years here and there, and it's been amazing the progress of the software. :)
Awesome first FSD 11 video. Looking forward to you pulling out the stops in your usual congested areas!
Your video is the first vs 11 drive, so thank you for being fast! Pretty impressive drive. I can’t wait until I get the update, and I’m sure I will be pushing the car through the stop signs to avoid the agonizing wait and to avoid being honked at.
Very impressive! 1:00 Messaging up top is much safer than down below. 1:20 Posted speed response was magic. 2:02 Lane hunting was always scary dangerous. Earlier lane change signaling a great improvement. 3:44 Projecting the lane markings will be much welcomed, giving drivers a choice where to go, by manually signaling. (A simple “bailout” feature that could well be included in early Robotaxi versions.) 3:52 A full wheel stop for .1 second is physically just as much as a stop as for 2 seconds, even considering inertial loadings. The NHTSA just needs some basic lessons in physics to overcome their “notional” conclusions. Just looking for headlights at that intersection would’ve been 6x safer than human & allowed for a much smoother crossing. 5:12 Right turn lane bias. Wow! 6:25 Another opportunity for a built in TSD (Touch for U-Turn) bailout function? 8:32 I’ve never liked double line crossing, so always drive the “proper” virtual turn lane, in the absence of other traffic. Seems like AIs should be given that choice, which should become the norm, once they begin to predominate. 9:25 That skill would’ve taken me through the back country AK roads in snow flurries during the winter of ‘19 (but maybe not at 60MPH)! It’s superior vision surely would’ve kept me from slipping onto the soft shoulder during one sketchy bit!
Love it, thank you again. Your overlays really paying off, as always.
Agreed... loving the overlays! :)
Thanks for posting. Great to see the positive changes. Looking forward to getting it and trying myself!!
This is just a great update and your commentary is excellent. I am really pleased to hear your first impressions. There is absolutely no reason to hide this away in a second channel. In fact we would like a lot more of these quick updates to get your first impressions please. Thanks
Just wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this video so quickly.
The planner plans so much further ahead, and u can see every little adjustment is makes. Much better than before
Thanks for getting this out to everyone so quickly! There's a lot of interest in this version and you always do a great job exploring its capabilities -- even @ 3a. :-) Keep it up!
Impressive. Thanks for the update and so glad you got v11! This looked really smooth AND it already passed some tests prior versions failed at. Progress!!!
You do a GREAT job describing the drive and how it is performing. GREAT JOB overall. Keep it up!! And THX.
Thanks for making this video so soon after release. Looks like real progress! Subscribed.
This is hilarious kkkk
Just watched the previous video and acceped "ok... maybe v11 won't come anytime soon, lets lower the expectations a bit for a few weeks or months..."
12 hours later: v11 arrived!!
Crying about the late V11 worked out to be effective! I am glad you have it first.
I am back to checking for updates in my car every couple of hours for the next week I guess...
You're definitely hyping us up! And based on rigorous sciency correlation you made this happen!
Thank you for putting an update out immediately! Watched my first V11 video! 🙂
Great content. Your videos are so well put together I don't even bother watching other videos on FSD. Keep up the good work!
Thanks AIDRVR for testing and releasing this latest video. Your visualization method looks good with V11. Sorry you had to work past 3am to release this video. Good job. :) Looking forward to trying this myself.
This Is a massive and needed improvement. My greatest fear is that FSD is pissing people off for being too safe when driving.
True but FSD has to follow the "traffic laws" even if it ignored by humans.
the darkness, the tired voice, it's very calming :D. Also nice to hear the joy in your voice :).
I appreciate the stopping. Our emotions have no purpose on the roads. Really hard for us to let go and will be for decades.
This video is amazing. I'm excited to get version 11. I really am a fan of FSC, but I have a few issues. My Model Y follows too close to the car in front of me. I have the follow distance set to the max of 7, but I don't think I'm ever more than 2.5 car lengths behind the car in front of me. I turn off FSD sometimes due to the close proximity of the car in front of me. The issue is the same in town and on the highway. Also, FSD completely ignores school speed zones. When the yellow lights are flashing, the speed limit is 25 mph, but if I don't hit the brakes, my car will continue to go the normal speed limit of 35-45 mph.
As far as I know, FSD doesn't respect any set follow distances yet, it just has the 3 modes, chill, average and assertive.
On normal 2 lane roads, not highway, I totally agree with you. Follow distance on these roads is way too uncomfortable. The dial in follow distance does not seem to apply to non highway driving. It has been a BIG issue with me from the beginning. I hope in this update, we will beable to dial in the follow distance as we see fit. As I seem to be on the bottom of the FSD beta list, it will be awhile before I know. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the post, I thought I was alone with this issue.
Thanks for staying up that long for give us a fist impression. Appreciated.
Wow… A 3am drive would be extremely hard for most people (work, kids life, etc.), but you took the time to do it was a great video to get out there. This is also my first V11 video. Hope I get it soon as well. 👍🏽⚡️😎
Good video. Thanks. Easiest way to get ticketed in California is to roll through a stop sign (and of course speeding in front of a cop.) At least according to my group of family and friends. So I'm cool with full stops. Even when I was doing all the driving. It's not easy to do. Of course I've also heard of people who've just rear ended one of my group jumping out and saying, "I didn't think you were going to stop at that stop sign." Count the stop signs in a trip and add what, 5 seconds each? That extra always less than a minute is worth not getting a ticket.
I really don’t get why the USA has so many 4 way stop sign intersections. Why don’t u guys use more roundabouts and give way signs? Why have stop signs if no one stops it just seems ridiculous.
What in the world is a give way sign?
@@paulo123-it’s a yield sign
Because we f*cking hate roundabouts
Because here in America we have to be different. Even if it's dumb.
@@davidw2934 exactly
Just so exciting!!! We've all gone along way with FSD!!!
If it wasn't for Dillon Loomis I wouldn't even know this video existed. :) That being said, glad to see v11 in action so soon, thanks a lot!
Wow, another step in the right direction. Pretty impressive so far.
Some of the best videos about FSD on YT.. Keep up the good work brother and can’t wait for your next video with V11.
Another great video and your initial first impressions. Looking forward to your more detailed review and for V11 to be pushed out to me. I think it might also be interesting to compare if HW 4 (now that it is being pushed out) if "better" than than earlier version of 2.5 of 3.0.
I love everything about your videos, AI DRIVR! Fantastic editing and commentary.
Thank you, really appreciate it :]
Great video as usual, thanks. 👍
Rolling through a stop sign will earn you a very expensive ticket and points on your licence where I live, if a cop is watching (Australia 🇦🇺).
1:40 The speed limit signs are the number one thing I've wanted fixed for a while. So glad they've finally done something about them! And I strongly agree on the stop sign roll-through, I wish NHTSA didn't get so anal about that considering literally everyone does it here haha
Also hoping that the improved no-mapdata performance means it won't continue trying to get into the right lane for an upcoming merge+left (which it does a *lot* at a road by me), but we'll see.
Great video and observations!! Thanks so much! Hope it performs well on the highway.
One of the biggest things holding AI back seems to be decision-making where it keeps flipping between two decisions. In a way, it's similar to humans because it was literally given human-esque qualities and drives on roads with other humans. None of this would be a problem in a world with only robot cars.
So True. We have mix of mostly human drivers is mostly responsible, but once in a while do some whacky stuff, just like FSD does, but we know why humans do it, but we don't know why the FSD does what it does sometimes. Sure, Tesla AI programmers will be able to see the results and figure out why it did the things it did when it went wacky at that point, but the unknown from the driver's perspective who is responsible is pretty scary at times.
Thanks for posting, very impressive & excellent progress!
In Florida you are expected to make full stop like that. the old behaviour would have definitely resulted in a few tickets.
But man I wish it was a setting so that people like you can set it to best fit typical behaviour in your area. Maybe the NHTSA will lighten up on this as it develops.
Yeah, that would be nice, but let Tesla programmers fix the PROBLEMS first. That is more important. Yes, the drive would be more enjoyable if we have a settings like that, but if we set too many limitations, then the AI will be too restrictive. The best AI program is as simple as it can be and that is what you want in a programming codes. It is a nuisance on a drive, but at least it doesn't try to crash you into a ditch, or another object. Their primary concern is for you to not crash. That is their first concern. Also, AI NEEDS to learn it by itself using the AI code the programmers have written. I think they know what they are doing, so let them do the things that needs to be done FIRST.
Or maybe they could fix the signage to not have STOP where it's not actually needed (i.e. where rolling through slowly is fine)
Still the best, FSD videos! Thanks!
I know it's said all the time and I know of course that RUclips pays you, but thank you all the same for sharing these videos. It's fascinating to see exactly how AI based vehicle control is progressing.
Crazy. Just bizarre how good FSD has became.
It's looking SO good. Thanks for sharing mate
Thanks for staying up late to share this with us.
Looks great. Thanks for the late night drive.
I just found this video/channel. And I’m wondering a lot why this isn’t on the main channel. That’s why I subscribed there. Now I’m also subscribed here.
Perfect timing for European time lunchbreak :D thanks a lot and sleep well!
Just because humans don't perform complete stops doesn't mean FSD Beta should do the same. A full stop is a full stop. Ask a police officer about it.
Thanks for the early test. Great drive. I can't wait to get it.
you’re a real one for posting this at 3am the day of release lol
Can't wait for your next v11 video! Thanks so much for these excellent videos.
"Rolling stop" is synonymous with "failure to stop" in Australia, will land you $400+ on the spot.
So do most of the cars come to a full stop even when there is no traffic?
90% of the time yeah, but we mostly have give way. If there is stop it's usually for good reason which becomes apparent when you actually stop. Usually its high speed intersections, or fences/trees/parking blocking visibility. Cops are generally chill and polite but no second chances on stopping or speeding. Fine aside its like 4 of max 12 points against you per 3 years.
For more context failure to stop/give way and speeding account for nearly all accidents.
Thanks for uploading so quickly!!
I love this video and commentary. Thanks buddy !
Thanks for uploading quickly at night. Appreciate your hard work. Thank you.
Awesome progress! Thanks for staying up.
Yay! Thanks so much for staying up late and releasing this one.
Great video! I I am sold! will get FSD Beta for my refreshed MS now!
is the stopping time on the stop sign improved due to recall? I saw it seems to have no change?
10:00 we have so many roads like that here in Ireland, great to see it doing well.
Thanks for sharing! Would have loved to see speed limit decrease and how long it took the car to get down to the new limit.
The thick blue reminds me of the water in Donnie Darko. :)
Really glad it's cutting the corner on the 2 lane left turns, always been uncomfortable with how wide it went even if that was technically proper.
That does look great! I doubt it will be able to cope with my snowbank lined streets but this gives me hope it will eventually.
In Mexico, STOP often means YIELD. If you stop at some of these stop signs, the people behind you will either pass you if there's room, or honk. Tourists get honked at ;)
Isn't it illegal to accelerate before the sign? At least were I live it's like that.
Thanks so much for making this video! Super exciting!
Stop is a stop because there will be one day where you would deserve to stop for 2 seconds. Bravo FSD!
I am happy with 2 seconds fullstop, as a passenger i would feel safier at least while i'm getting used to the technology. Anyway the AI it's working great it was a very nice video!
Visualization seems improved, and hopefully the smooth/stable driving holds up even in high traffic situations. Although, some negative points:
I think the AI being more "careful" will not do it any favors, because even for me as a German, the stop at the stop signs is quite long, at least for a situation with little/no other traffic. When it's obvious nobody's coming, Humans just go. Something they teach you in driving school (at least here) is that being too overly cautious for no reason can actually create dangerous situations, because you are provoking other drivers into misinterpreting your intentions. So, it's really not good that an AI has to be so slow - I think that definitely has the potential to make Human drivers misjudge what an AI car will actually do!
Also, I really don't like how slow and long the car takes when "creeping" forward - that's not "creeping", that's more like stopping in the middle of the damn road! Again, huge potential for Human drivers to misjudge how and when the car will actually commit to a decision (if someone was behind you, waiting).
Some of the problems are unique to the US road system, so that's interesting to see as always: It's almost like 4-way stop sign intersections are a reaaallly dumb idea, and so absurdly inefficient and unnecessary, they are bound to frustrate Humans into breaking the rules.
Whenever an AI has to follow rules nobody else follows, we are going to see a lot of friction between Human and AI drivers, potentially causing dangerous situations. No sure what the solution for that is.
Thanks for making this video! Also, really cool to see the AI master rough road conditions so well! I liked how it kept on the right side of the road, like you have to do if someone else came up ahead.
NHTSA should be so proud that their input really made FSD so much better and safer ( sarcasm 😂)
Stop means stop. I'm from the UK, and rolled slowly through one like we do at home and got pulled over.
Really enjoyed the numerous times NHTSA was called out for their petulant enforcement of full and complete stops.
I love the new wide blue line! I’m excited
How does it handle pot-holes?
I don't think that has changed yet.
Nice and a massive step change. Now waiting for my fsd Beta download
Speeding up before the sign is illegal. Speeding down after the sign is also illegal.
What FSD should do is slowing down before the slower speed sign.
Valuable content, thanks for your work!
I like how the turn signal comes on earlier. Much less confusing for other drivers when the car slows (from their perspective) for no apparent reason. It is particularly bad when there is no lane bias on the approach to the turn. Now, if it could only understand Texas driver mentality.😂
Looking forward to its arrival. Very curious if it’s any better around roundabouts.
Thanks for the video. Keep us informed !
4:50 where it can see the blue highlighted car at the end of the straight is amazing
Wow... the rate of improvement is impressive. I wonder if it will accelerate from here, or slow down to a local maximum.
id say its steady progress. each major update comes with new systems which have to be trained which dont always act properly or may affect other systems. when tesla fixes it they then move on to the next so you dont spend long with the 'perfected' system and back to the first version of the next upgrade with bugs.
This version seems like they held it back for quite some time while they continues to update and refine it. This is a .3 release, not even the first one, its just it wasnt available to anyone previously. Tesla has not only gone to a single stack, but also replaced various neural nets with a two step process of two different NNs instead of just one which also gave improvements. Tesla is also continuing to work on their systems and improve the occupancy network but all of it takes time and the staff can only work on so many things at once.
The next refined version may be the last one many people have for awhile, depending how the next versions go. im sure a lot of people will be happy to have this next version and will want to hang onto it for awhile.
Wow, is it a joke ?! The FSD is anticipating speed limit that are higher than current ?! It's not expected, it's just for speed limit lower than current ... how can it be so stupid ... At least for France, speed limit must be applied just after speed limit sign, not before.
Very nice video, thanks.
Finallyyyy!!! Thank you so much!
Thank you for the update. Hopefully I’ll be getting this soon.
Obviously the big tests will be how it handles crowded areas with lots of cars and pedestrians, but looks pretty promising so far.
I know you're a bit annoyed by the stop behavior but I actually like it - I live in a totally different part of the country than you in a much less densely populated area, and around here a "california stop" is a great way to get a weirdly expensive ticket, or get t-boned by a lifted truck going 50 in a 35. It might be annoying for you but in terms of overall safety it's a good decision on the whole. It might be nice if they were smarter and had the car behave differently depending on location and even what type of intersection it's at, but barring that it's probably best that the default is over-cautious if we ever want this thing to be taken seriously.
i spoke to a cop and technically you don't need to stop for any amount of time other than for an instant to get 0mph on your speedometer. as long as you actually stop to 0mph you're good
The OTA Recall notes for this release do not mention any changes for making a full stop at stop signs.