300 Win Mag vs 338 Win Mag vs 7mm Mag: Not Even Close?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 фев 2025
  • On this episode of Ultimate Barrier Testing, we will compare the performance of the 7mm Rem Mag to the 300 Win Mag and the 338 Win Mag on 4 different targets. Each target is worth 25 points, for a grand total of 100 points. Whichever cartridge ends up with the highest score will be the winner. Testing was setup at 50 yards. Steel is A529 grade 55 mild steel. 1 inch = 25.4 mm. Thanks for watching!
    Patreon: / bananaballistics
    Test 1 and 4 Ammo Specs:
    7mm RM - 26” Barrel
    139 gr Interlock Reload
    3,078 fps - 2,925 ft/lbs
    S.D. - 3.3 fps
    300 WM - 24” Barrel
    165 gr Interlock Reload
    3,192 fps - 3,734 ft/lbs
    S.D. - 13.8 fps
    338 WM - 26” Barrel
    225 gr Interlock Reload
    2,868 fps - 4,110 ft/lbs
    S.D. - 24.4 fps
    *3-shot average on Garmin Xero C1 Chronograph
    *These tests are meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. Do not try any of these tests at home! Always verify your firearm is rated for and can safely fire any ammunition that you intend to use. Always follow standard safety procedures when handling Any firearm.
    #midwayusa

Комментарии • 807

  • @Mpeterson1286
    @Mpeterson1286 6 месяцев назад +242

    Call me crazy, but I enjoy regular demonstrations of the bullet stopping superpowers of sand.
    I deleted all my armor plates and now just run pocket sand. Dale Gribble spec 5A+ armor.

    • @albundy7459
      @albundy7459 6 месяцев назад +6

      😂

    • @ghijkl
      @ghijkl 6 месяцев назад +9

      Yep… *sips beer*

    • @Darth-Nihilus1
      @Darth-Nihilus1 6 месяцев назад +8

      You can defeat Darth Vader with that set up

    • @seann2769
      @seann2769 6 месяцев назад

      Me too! I want the 6” sand box to stay

    • @respectbossmon
      @respectbossmon 6 месяцев назад +2

      Well, Mr. Crazy, I've only found 5A+ to work in the Land of the Lost: Great against Sleestak Bolts.....ineffective against Skylon laser blasts.

  • @saleembarmania5295
    @saleembarmania5295 6 месяцев назад +168

    A whole video trying out everyone's ideas for sand box replacements!

    • @pewdeals
      @pewdeals 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@saleembarmania5295 that’s a great idea.

  • @Comet-hn3gm
    @Comet-hn3gm 6 месяцев назад +47

    Ok. I have used 7mm 3006 and currently 338. For 45 years. What matters for hunting is the shot placement, nothing else if you use a quality bullet.

    • @congerthomas1812
      @congerthomas1812 5 месяцев назад +2

      Right, a larger bullet has a higher Tko factor. Energy transfer,not holes

    • @bluepunk182
      @bluepunk182 5 месяцев назад

      Which do you find to be the most pleasant to shoot? I've been looking at a magnum round, and am not sure which to get (even considering the 35 Whelen...).

    • @Comet-hn3gm
      @Comet-hn3gm 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bluepunk182Just so you know, the projectile and load will make a difference. However the 3006 is the easiest on the shoulder, the 7mm very close. 338 with the loads I have is MEAN ! The 3006 I have is a Remington 721 from the 40s and has a metal but plate. It's what the Mrs shoots. No complaints.

    • @bluepunk182
      @bluepunk182 5 месяцев назад

      @@Comet-hn3gm Yeah, I understand there can be a decent amount of variables....but it sounds like that 338 is a step above the 30-06 and 7mm, huh? I tend to really like 7mms for the ballistics... might have to look more into that one. I appreciate the reply and info!

    • @Comet-hn3gm
      @Comet-hn3gm 5 месяцев назад

      @@bluepunk182 Well, I can't recall for sure, because it's been 25 years ago, but as I recall the 225 grain 338 bullet was going about the same as a 7mm 160? Grain at the muzzle. Down range I'm sure it was slower, but had more energy. If the Mrs. Has the same tag as me, I pack the 338, because it's going to hurt her.

  • @willdejong7763
    @willdejong7763 6 месяцев назад +76

    Replace the single 6x6x6 box with three 6x6x2 boxes. A pack of 25 is just $15. (This commercial brought to you by Uline.) Maybe use a couple bungie cords to hold them in place.
    Also, thanks for stopping that evil turtle. I was worried for a bit.

    • @jagx234
      @jagx234 6 месяцев назад

      omgsh Uline
      the catalog they send with every order tho...

  • @wldtrky38
    @wldtrky38 6 месяцев назад +8

    I've been using 300 WM for Missouri whitetails since 1989. Longest shot about 275 yards on a young spike buck, running. DRT. 150 grain Wichester Powerpoint has never disappointed. If i lived out west, and hunted elk, im pretty sure I would have a .338. No disrespect to 7 mm, all good rounds with good shot placement. Cool tests, as always 👍👍

    • @Chieficy
      @Chieficy 5 месяцев назад +1

      the 180 grain powerpoints run much better in my 300 wm

    • @nathancampbell5229
      @nathancampbell5229 2 месяца назад +2

      Here in Colorado. In the mountains west of Walden. I’ve personally seen a Christianson carbon fiber rifle, chambered in 300 Winchester magnum- talked with a leupold CTS drop a cow elk at 1100 yards. one shot. Heart lung combo

  • @bhess1212
    @bhess1212 6 месяцев назад +56

    I love the toilet guy!

    • @cajun4christ
      @cajun4christ 6 месяцев назад +4

      Toilet guy commentary =awesome 😂

    • @jacobnorth8642
      @jacobnorth8642 6 месяцев назад +1

      Watching bananas and thumb on toilet...

  • @qinarizonaful
    @qinarizonaful 6 месяцев назад +22

    Now we see why sandbags are so good in combat!

  • @TheAlbertaChannel
    @TheAlbertaChannel 6 месяцев назад +78

    10:09 “the small boys might be able to out penetrate the larger diameter boys”
    Me: you hear that little buddy! 😂

  • @stephenkrampert3430
    @stephenkrampert3430 6 месяцев назад +8

    I've been testing bullets for about 50 years if you take a copier box and fill it with magazines, keep them wet and soggy for several months, (so make a couple of these )you can put water jugs, cow bones, limbs, or anything in front of the box, still capture the bullet and get realistic results. As you take a screwdriver and look through the magazines you can get results of the wound channel that you should be able to photograph. Large pumpkins with two small holes in the top filled with water give you some very interesting results.!!!!

    • @perryscott2328
      @perryscott2328 6 месяцев назад +1

      we used ammo boxes filled with cardboard and water

  • @jamescaron6465
    @jamescaron6465 6 месяцев назад +14

    I have a 338 win Mag and I know how much recoil you suffer when you shoot it off a bench so I can definitely empathize. Great test by the way.

    • @voivode2591
      @voivode2591 6 месяцев назад +5

      It took a bit for me to figure out how to not to end up with a sore shoulder with my 338. Hold it firmly. Both hands and to shoulder. If any of the 3 are slack it will make you remember.🙂

    • @jamescaron6465
      @jamescaron6465 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@voivode2591 yea you don’t forget that. And when you get to be 64 like me, you really don’t forget it. Nice job though I really like your methodology.

  • @markcmann
    @markcmann 6 месяцев назад +6

    Turn it around!!! Makes me chuckle every time. Great videos.

  • @alexandersytnik1157
    @alexandersytnik1157 6 месяцев назад +114

    Sandbox was a fine idea - you just need several 2-inch deep ones instead of that 6-inch unit.

    • @Xathos
      @Xathos 6 месяцев назад +2

      I was gonna say that, or use 3 inches instead of 6. I'm not sure how he would consistently get/make 2 inch deep "slabs".

    • @pewdeals
      @pewdeals 6 месяцев назад +1

      That

    • @whatcanilearnhere9158
      @whatcanilearnhere9158 6 месяцев назад +4

      6"x6"x2" three deep is what ive been thinking since i started watching banana

    • @blueheeler4807
      @blueheeler4807 6 месяцев назад +4

      I like the sandbox test; ya' know because of science and stuff.
      At least keep it around for calibers you haven't tested yet.
      8.6 Blackout supers, .300 &.338 RUM & Lapua, the African safari cartridges, & .50BMG You might want to preschedule the shoulder surgery, just sayin'.

    • @sasqetshenkley1190
      @sasqetshenkley1190 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly. Very few can penetrate the back of a 6" box.

  • @caddothegreat
    @caddothegreat 6 месяцев назад +5

    I shot a Remington 700 7MM Mag for years. It was accurate. Nearly always a straight on shot. Usually I used 139 grain bullet. Bigger game the 175 grain. The rifle I had bedded the stock, floated the barrel, and put a timney trigger in it. It would drive tacks.

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd 6 месяцев назад +4

    I'm really glad for the scenarios you brought into these tests, it really makes them more practical.

  • @johnbcardin
    @johnbcardin 6 месяцев назад +22

    “Terry, quit playing around”😂

  • @Ammobucket
    @Ammobucket 6 месяцев назад +47

    Modeling clay shows the impact very well and can be re-used if you keep it moist and refrigerated.

    • @christopherroberts8960
      @christopherroberts8960 6 месяцев назад +4

      Hell yes!!! Modeling clay would be AWESOME!!!!!!!

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC 6 месяцев назад +2

      Agree 👍

    • @LupusMechanicus
      @LupusMechanicus 6 месяцев назад

      modeling clay is oil based...

    • @philkoth2198
      @philkoth2198 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@LupusMechanicus So?

    • @LupusMechanicus
      @LupusMechanicus 6 месяцев назад

      @@philkoth2198 It doesn't need to be kept "moist"

  • @FyoungK
    @FyoungK 6 месяцев назад +17

    These turtles are no joke! Glad you took care of them.

  • @triggercrysisjames142
    @triggercrysisjames142 6 месяцев назад +22

    Now that the 6 inch sand box is gone...
    I want to see a 4 inch box of sand!!!
    😁

  • @Alfred_Goldman
    @Alfred_Goldman 6 месяцев назад +4

    man, you have a real talent for drawing

  • @nickm9134
    @nickm9134 2 месяца назад +4

    As a 300WM owner only because I didn't want to pay for the 338 ammo prices I am happy to see it is still very relevant

  • @akeeperofoddknowledge4956
    @akeeperofoddknowledge4956 6 месяцев назад +52

    I'm a 7mm RM owner who lives in an area where there's no range long enough for any of those calibers. Nice to see the 7RM held its own!
    Next time maybe use clay?

  • @DannyGraves1775
    @DannyGraves1775 6 месяцев назад +9

    Like others suggested, stick with the sandbox, but either use several thinner boxes in a row, or something no thicker than 4 inches.
    Or use a 2 inch box of sand with a small jug of water (just don't tape them together, the energy transfer from the box to the water jug will tear up the jug, even if the sand stops the projectile).
    (also, good lord, RUclips's being censorious today).

    • @floorpizza8074
      @floorpizza8074 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, they've really tightened the screws lately.

  • @Mike_858
    @Mike_858 6 месяцев назад +4

    Those butterflies are totally taking advantage of Mr banana!

  • @stephenembrey883
    @stephenembrey883 Месяц назад

    I didn't care for your videos at first but I am really liking how you do get straight to the point without a lot of hoopla to waste my valuable time. I've got a really good idea for you that I think you'll get a lot of interest in and accomplish it almost cost: study on the ballistic pendulum. One of the earlier ways to check actual energy from a projectile of virtually any kind provided it can be contained within the medium being shot at. I would start with a one square foot box of sand measured to whatever exact weight can be repeated prior to the next shot. Hang this box on a swing or it can freely pivot from above. Place a spring loaded pencil or marker on the box to keep pressure on a firm marking pad that will leave a mark as the test medium swings after impact. Take those numbers in inches or millimeters or whatever kind of measurement you prefer that is accurate, and compare that to calculated muzzle energy of the projectile as produced blindly as a mathematical equation. Let's say a 243 Winchester pushes the block back 2 inches, and the 36 pushes it back 5 inches convert inches to the measurement you decided on in foot pounds of energy and see how accurate FPE really is. Obviously the longer radius the ballistic pendulum would be, the more accurate would be the results. A better option that might be more involved would be to place the target block on a rollers and simply measure the straight line distance, that would be a better test because it would eliminate gravity working backwards on the effect of the bullet impact.

  • @rbhe357
    @rbhe357 6 месяцев назад +23

    I'll take the 7MM all day long. Still very capable, while cheaper to feed and less punishing to shoot.

    • @ChanoLeyva-hq2ci
      @ChanoLeyva-hq2ci 5 месяцев назад +3

      Not bad I choose 308 for pretty much anything for those exact same reasons

    • @nickb8618
      @nickb8618 20 дней назад

      I shoot the 7mm wsm and 300 wsm for big game. I also take the 7mm any day over the 300 and the 7mm wsm knocks the snot out of everything

  • @dannyloughman
    @dannyloughman 6 месяцев назад +150

    Water jugs seem like a good replacement for the sand. Tough barrier but also shows energy transfer

    • @noclueforid
      @noclueforid 6 месяцев назад +8

      Agree, and possibly catch the bullet for expansion testing!

    • @nicholasmagers5246
      @nicholasmagers5246 6 месяцев назад +13

      The meat target....

    • @ecoop20
      @ecoop20 6 месяцев назад +4

      or soda jugs :)

    • @zackz4015
      @zackz4015 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes I was thinking water jugs as well, can you use different number depending on calibers tested.

    • @nemoexnuqual3643
      @nemoexnuqual3643 6 месяцев назад +4

      Water and Paul Harrel style meat targets.
      Water is a very pretty target too

  • @jamesbromstead4949
    @jamesbromstead4949 6 месяцев назад +86

    "She Be Kick'n!" - Kentucky Ballistics

  • @usmcvet9446
    @usmcvet9446 6 месяцев назад +18

    I have had always felt that the 300 winmag is the best bang for the buck when it comes to long range and stopping power. Sure there are better rounds but for the relative cost to entry and ammo availability I really like that round.

    • @timtorkelson7201
      @timtorkelson7201 5 месяцев назад +3

      Had my 300WM since 91,love it,and she's a real thumper!

    • @floorpizza8074
      @floorpizza8074 4 месяца назад +5

      Same. I also have a Remington 700 in .280 Remington, but for all out versatility, it's really hard to beat the venerable 300 Win Mag.

    • @RockwellRhodes
      @RockwellRhodes 3 месяца назад +2

      The 7 Rem Mag is more efficient over long range and can actually exceed the .300 in residual energy over longer ranges... and is easier on the shoulder. A .28-inch bullet has a higher BC than a .30.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 2 месяца назад +2

      @@RockwellRhodes bs

    • @RockwellRhodes
      @RockwellRhodes 2 месяца назад

      @@robertboyd3863 Whatever, sonny. 😄

  • @t2green374
    @t2green374 6 месяцев назад +2

    Would love to see you use a 175 gr Speer Hot-Cor in the Rem 7 mag. Your sectional density goes from .249 with the 139 grain bullet to .310 with 175 grain. Bone crushing penetration changes dramatically. Cheers!

  • @The1stLumiens
    @The1stLumiens 6 месяцев назад

    11:40 captures the ricochet. Cool shot!

  • @saleembarmania5295
    @saleembarmania5295 6 месяцев назад +37

    4 inch sand box?
    Mud box?
    Juice boxes?
    Layers of mdf? Cardboard?
    World's thickest "new and improved high tech fleece bullet stop"?
    Hay bale?

    • @stolaire
      @stolaire 6 месяцев назад +4

      Clay

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet 6 месяцев назад +8

    Listening to him talk at 25% speed is hilarious 😂

  • @petehafner3844
    @petehafner3844 6 месяцев назад +1

    Really enjoy your testing always get a chuckle

  • @claudiosartori4441
    @claudiosartori4441 6 месяцев назад +5

    Banana.... hugs from Brazil!!!!

  • @MoxJet629
    @MoxJet629 6 месяцев назад +3

    It might be slightly over super cheap and easy but I think people would be very interested to see how many pieces of drywall a round makes it though. Separate them by at least a couple inches so it's a clean pass on each and not just compacting material.

  • @marshalljones8840
    @marshalljones8840 6 месяцев назад +4

    Muzzle brake on 300 WM is a must. I've got a Tikka T3X 300WM with a clamp on muzzle brake loctited on and comparing it with and without the brake to Savage 110s in 270wsm & 6.5 Creedmoor both without brakes, the 300 without a brake had way more recoil then the 270wsm with the brake was like shooting the 6.5 creedmoor maybe even less hard to tell

    • @user-oz1fd1hz9d
      @user-oz1fd1hz9d 2 месяца назад

      A must for you maybe. Does it reduce recoil? Of course but that doesn't make it a must.

  • @nickpetkoglou1990
    @nickpetkoglou1990 Месяц назад

    one TC 7mag one 160 gr Federal Vital Shok cartidge one 900 lbs moose @ 330 yds. Recovered 25 ft from where it stood. If that's not good enough for ya, Go for the 30 cannons. I'll stick to what works for me. Cheers! from Quebec Canada

  • @rossfelton1955
    @rossfelton1955 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sheet rock aka gypsum wall board. Gwb is in most houses and buildings. It's available at every home center and hardware store. Layer 1/2" x 6" squares to 5" with a piece of plywood supporting the back. It's easy to see how deep the bullets penetrate.

  • @whiteoakmountain
    @whiteoakmountain 6 месяцев назад +2

    Sand Box Replacement: Wet newspaper hung from wooden dowels in a cardboard box. This was used to test bullets as far back as the 1920s. It was still the best way to test bullets through the 1970s into the 1980s. WHY: Because it was cheap and it simulated how a bullet would react when hitting flesh. Gather newspaper and soak them in water overnight. Hang them from wooden dowels in a cardboard box. Fire into them and you can see the wound channel and how deep the bullets will penetrate. If you have never tried it you are missing out. Ballistic gel is fine but it lacks the fluid to really make bullets expand as it will in flesh. Soaking wet newspaper is dramatic when shot. Anyone who has studied the would channel in a deer and compared it to the results they got from ballistic gel can tell you there is a huge difference between those two mediums. For magnum calibers you will want 2 boxes of wet newspaper. The boxes should be full and the news paper coming right out of the water and still dripping. Try it and you will not want to use anything else.

  • @scottmansfield1734
    @scottmansfield1734 6 месяцев назад

    Two comments- 1 You’ve got some sweeet slick bolt guns! 2 When you cut to “that guy on the crapper”, while I’m on the crapper, it kills me!! 😂😂 👍🏼 Keep up the great work & content!😊

    • @skidmark7845
      @skidmark7845 6 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t think he’s eluding to that scenario. You can see by his hand movements

  • @GreyShooter
    @GreyShooter 6 месяцев назад +38

    What's the dude on the toilet doing with that left hand?😂😂😂

    • @Mattguyverr
      @Mattguyverr 6 месяцев назад +13

      Husking the banana😉

    • @edwinlongwell
      @edwinlongwell 6 месяцев назад

      We were all wondering the same thing…

    • @marcmo7138
      @marcmo7138 6 месяцев назад +2

      Not sure but he is probably a Glock fanboy.

    • @Vex916T
      @Vex916T 6 месяцев назад +4

      Tapping and racking the organic slide.

  • @dobrodave5453
    @dobrodave5453 Месяц назад

    I’ve watched this twice, good video. May I suggest:::: put objects out a few hundred yards? Include 06 Appreciate the nerdy humor 😂😂❤

  • @Mpeterson1286
    @Mpeterson1286 6 месяцев назад +4

    Bonus points for hole diameter on the 338, tho

  • @147CombatMedic
    @147CombatMedic 6 месяцев назад +3

    Poor sandbox. 📦 He always performed so valiantly but remained so underappreciated.
    RIP 😢😞😭

  • @BenMaviyiSeverim
    @BenMaviyiSeverim 6 месяцев назад +20

    Pinky test:
    Just the tip...Oouuhhh!
    Further in...Oooh yeah!

    • @steffybael1245
      @steffybael1245 6 месяцев назад

      THATS WHAT HE SAID!
      i myself like it balls deep! of course im the guy married to steffy!! lol

  • @0000Sierra117
    @0000Sierra117 6 месяцев назад +16

    I was gravitating to .300 win mag just because it's cheaper and more popular than 7mm rem mag in my neck of the woods and seemed similar enough in power on paper. Good to see some tests that confirm my preconceived biases :) lol

    • @Phidelity1984
      @Phidelity1984 6 месяцев назад +2

      7mm was cheaper, flatter shooting and slightly more power than 300wm but things may have changed from years ago

    • @mikeford963
      @mikeford963 6 месяцев назад +1

      Till you decide to run through a box when sighting it in. I've run 62 rounds through my 7mm RM in a couple hours one day. Sure I felt it a little the next day, but not as bad as 300WM.

    • @dinadaughtry8993
      @dinadaughtry8993 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@mikeford963Was never bothered by the recoil of the 7mm REM MAG could shoot all day or as much as I could afford even with the 170 grain rounds, didn't seem much different than a 303 British or a 30-06 maybe because it was a well designed rifle,it was a Sako and wish I never got rid of it

    • @altortugas5979
      @altortugas5979 6 месяцев назад +2

      I mean, a good muzzle break really takes the starch out of the recoil. I can’t imagine shooting a magnum without any kind of muzzle device, let alone 25 times between three different rifles.

    • @dinadaughtry8993
      @dinadaughtry8993 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@altortugas5979 I didn't have a muzzle brake on my Sako in 7mm REM MAG and I had no problem going through 4-5 boxes of 20 , I could feel it but it was not uncomfortable to shoot

  • @Spydr6684
    @Spydr6684 6 месяцев назад

    4:48 I think the sand box just answered for us! 😂

  • @ronniekeates3349
    @ronniekeates3349 6 месяцев назад +3

    It's nice to see steel sled 4.2 again

  • @Harpo77
    @Harpo77 5 месяцев назад

    I like the sand box it’s alway surprising. I like when he uses different rounds in the same gun as well.

  • @ClarenceCochran-ne7du
    @ClarenceCochran-ne7du 6 месяцев назад +6

    Long time .338 Win Mag Fan. IMHO, the best cartridge for any Large North American Game.

    • @GregElbert-ug9kt
      @GregElbert-ug9kt 6 месяцев назад +2

      I agree 338 with the barnes bullets have taken down many alaskan moose and bears for me over last 30 years but off the bench with no brake it will shake your brain

    • @RandyMan388
      @RandyMan388 4 месяца назад

      @@GregElbert-ug9kt Get yourself a 338-06 shoot Barnes 210 T-TSX @ 2800fps.
      It does a great job on all animals.
      Less recoil than the Win. Mag.

    • @ClarenceCochran-ne7du
      @ClarenceCochran-ne7du 4 месяца назад

      @@RandyMan388 I'm an old fart now, and had to give up hunting because of mobility issues. I had to undergo replacement of both shoulder joints a few years ago, and now, I can't handle any heavy recoil (even 30-30 becomes painful after a few rounds).
      The longest shot I ever made when I still hunted was between 400 to 500 yards, which is well within the capabilities of the 338-06 per its data, but I don't recall anyone making off the shelf 338-06's in the 70's - 90's. At least I never saw one at the Gun Stores I frequented back in the day.

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd 6 месяцев назад +2

    Also, I love the toilet commenter, that's spot on youtube's viewership.

  • @dbeasleyphx
    @dbeasleyphx 6 месяцев назад +3

    I miss the flying banana intro. It's perfect for this channel's sense of humor. Also, I am writing this while the toilet. 👍

    • @peternorton5648
      @peternorton5648 6 месяцев назад +1

      Gave it a 👍. . . From the toilet.

    • @dbeasleyphx
      @dbeasleyphx 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@peternorton5648 while... haha!!

  • @ronadkins1817
    @ronadkins1817 6 месяцев назад

    Love your tests, the sand is a great one. Sometimes less is more, maybe a 6x6x4? Thanks for the great videos, keep them coming.

  • @jimbrock8310
    @jimbrock8310 6 месяцев назад +37

    I will stick with the 7mm Rem mag! Lighter recoil faster round more hydraulic shock!

    • @ronoutwest
      @ronoutwest 6 месяцев назад +7

      300 is faster

    • @jimbrock8310
      @jimbrock8310 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ronoutwest You sure about that?

    • @jimbrock8310
      @jimbrock8310 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ronoutwest Not when I am reloading!

    • @rickpope4545
      @rickpope4545 4 месяца назад +1

      Bullshit

    • @russellkeeling4387
      @russellkeeling4387 4 месяца назад +2

      I've owned and loaded all three of these cartridges. I've sold the .338 and the 7mm and kept the .300 win. mag.. The 7mm is not as fast or as powerful as the 300, and neither is the 338. The 35 Whelen can push a 225 grain bullet at 2800 fps on 15 grains less powder than the 338 can push a 225 grain bullet. All three are wonderful cartridges but where I live and hunt elk, in southern Colorado, I've never needed any magnum caliber rifle to successfully harvest my elk whenever given the chance.

  • @jeremystyron9721
    @jeremystyron9721 6 месяцев назад +2

    6inches of sand is alot to penetrate . You should keep the sand target and make it a 4inch sand box that's what we use at home to check penetration test and it works extremely well

  • @tydickson4021
    @tydickson4021 6 месяцев назад

    Love the videos, you should try putting like a pine board behind the steel to see how lethal they are after they penetrate

  • @dinadaughtry8993
    @dinadaughtry8993 6 месяцев назад +1

    Had a Sakko bolt action in 7mm Rem mag and loved to target shoot with it at the longest range I could safely find in my area and would shoot as much as I could afford for bullets would easily go through a hundred dollars in a couple hours of shooting but it was hard to quit when you could hit just about anything even as small as a pop can over 200-300 yards

  • @Mr.Constitutionalist427
    @Mr.Constitutionalist427 6 месяцев назад +1

    Depth in ballistic gel would be a good replacement for the sand, then you will have an exact difference of depth on a softer target

  • @timothybeam1330
    @timothybeam1330 6 месяцев назад +1

    Replace the sand with a block of ice. You could either puchase block ice or use a five gallon bucket. The bucket filled to the same depth from one video to the next would give consistant results. Low cost and easy clean up.

    • @kurtwpg
      @kurtwpg 6 месяцев назад

      Sand has a unique ability to shred bullets, though.

  • @user-dt8xy7ig2d
    @user-dt8xy7ig2d 6 месяцев назад

    Those are some nice ear piercers🦻!! I love my 7 mag. I like the sand test just make the box thinner so some have a chance of penetrating through.

  • @walterabernathy5663
    @walterabernathy5663 5 месяцев назад

    I got a hold of a British 303 and some AP rounds. They were able to go through 3 ft of packed red clay, and not a fist side hunk out of the bank on the other side of the dam. My dad said the British 303 would go through 24 in of sandbags and kill somebody on the other side.

  • @christopherhartigan431
    @christopherhartigan431 6 месяцев назад

    Potential sand replacements, baking flour, corn meal, sugar or feed corn. Feed corn is about $12 for 50lbs in most places. Testing common calibers on a sand replacement is probably a good video all on its own.

  • @Phidelity1984
    @Phidelity1984 6 месяцев назад

    I made a ballistic chart and graph with a bunch of long range calibers years ago and it included 7mm rem and 300wm. In the end i went with 204 ruger but also considered 7mm rem. I already have 7.92x57 for heavy hitting medium range. I bypassed 300wm.

  • @JoshuaCavender-l8d
    @JoshuaCavender-l8d 2 месяца назад

    You're hilarious. I like the way you sit on the toilet and mimic us Micromanaging what you're doing ,, spot on. That's exactly what we're doing,😂 and you're right, no matter what you do somebody is going to want you to shoot a mile with ten different bullets.That'll show us,

  • @jamesrogers9867
    @jamesrogers9867 Месяц назад

    Have been hunting elk, mulies and antelope for 43 years with 7mm RM, 20 years with 300 Win Mag and 14 years with 338 Win Mag, handloads for all. The 7mm RM is still my favorite. The bullet and placement matter more than diameter and the 7mm RM has put elk down just as fast as the 300 Win Mag. The 338 Win Mag (225gr AB @ 2800fps) has been no faster than the 7.

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep 6 месяцев назад +15

    may we get a bad turtle tshirt? what a cool mascot you have happened upon! i mean, besides the banana, that is.🎉

    • @willdejong7763
      @willdejong7763 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@nozrep Evil turtle.

    • @robrob7346
      @robrob7346 6 месяцев назад

      have the turtle riding a banana t-shirt 🤣🤣🤣

  • @myloveisajoke
    @myloveisajoke 6 месяцев назад

    Duct sealing compound. It used to be a popular medium for bullet testing in gun magazines back in the say before Ballistic gel became a thing. I used it to do a science fair project back in the early 90s to test 22 ammo.

  • @JackHarper07
    @JackHarper07 5 месяцев назад

    This was the best and funniest video I’ve ever seen

  • @danielhubble5380
    @danielhubble5380 Месяц назад

    In the marines they they showed us why we fill sandbags and the reason is that they catch shrapnel and bullets. They catch it like a baseball glove. Bullets will fly through lead, concrete, etc… but not sand

  • @LEFTY1506SHILOH
    @LEFTY1506SHILOH 6 месяцев назад

    "Barry, quit playing around!" Lmbo; bro seriously: you crack me up, lolol!!! 😂🦋

  • @rossfelton1955
    @rossfelton1955 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks

  • @andynewman1320
    @andynewman1320 6 месяцев назад +24

    Am I the only one that thinks of the 40 Year Old Virgin when you do the sand test? "Feels like a bag of sand when I touch it."

  • @nirfz
    @nirfz 19 дней назад

    For the sandbox: Years ago there were to guys in their retirement, who ran a website where they tested stuff similar to you.
    Things they were wondering about, or had heard before.
    And they started with making a box out of wood and sheetrock, that they filled with different things.
    Their website was called the box of truth (or written a little different.)
    And one of the first things they did was make a "sandbox" of truth. front: sheetrock, back sheetrock, and in the middle i think 4" of sand.
    They tried 9mm, .45, 5.56, 7.62, 45-70... Nothing made it trough. And the higher the speed, the less chance to get through.
    The furthest iirc were the 9mm and 45, they touched the back. Sand seems to work like a non newtonean fluid when it comes to bullets.
    I think you can leave the sandbox. Unless you want to throw a .50 at it, that might make the sandbox burst and thus make it through, but everything more normal won't.

  • @nate_krysl
    @nate_krysl 6 месяцев назад +16

    Battle of .338? Win mag, Norma mag, lapua mag 🤔

    • @rbhe357
      @rbhe357 6 месяцев назад +2

      I'm sure he'll rush out and drop 3 thousand dollars for a video

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC 6 месяцев назад

      ​@rbhe357 😂😂😂👍

    • @andrewartress9251
      @andrewartress9251 6 месяцев назад +3

      Don't forget the .338 Remington ultra mag...and. 340 Weatherby.

    • @mannequinfukr
      @mannequinfukr 6 месяцев назад

      I have a feeling the lapua and norma mag would perform really close. The norma mag iirc was designed so you don't have OAL issues with long 338 bullets (namely 300 grain)

    • @leepinkus1891
      @leepinkus1891 6 месяцев назад

      I cant like this enough. Maybe the 8 59 lazzeroni as well​@andrewartress9251

  • @samohteel4393
    @samohteel4393 6 месяцев назад +11

    I'm not sure but Hickock45 released a video a few days ago explaining that with RUclips's new TOS, any sponsored gun videos can be grounds for channel deletion.
    I'd hate for you to get a strike. Love the Channel.
    The replacement could be rubber blocks like for a car jack, or even horse mats, but the mats would require some kind of lamination like a dock bumper at a warehouse.

    • @albundy7459
      @albundy7459 6 месяцев назад

      Just don’t take the money. It’s pretty easy to avoid. This is just to get rid of the gun salesman part of RUclips… which is 75% of guntubers.

    • @gavincline209
      @gavincline209 6 месяцев назад +5

      It’s like RUclips is trying to push everyone to rumble! Lol

    • @ronoutwest
      @ronoutwest 6 месяцев назад +4

      Might have to delete RUclips. It’s pretty gay anymore

  • @seanfoltz7645
    @seanfoltz7645 6 месяцев назад

    Alternative to sand - wet magazines/phone books - they're not quite as tough as sand to blaze through but you duct tape four or five inches worth together and then let them soak and they make a good target which puts on a show and will at least stop most level 3A stuff.

  • @jeffshootsstuff
    @jeffshootsstuff 6 месяцев назад +7

    I'm likely in the minority that liked the sand box. If anything ever makes it through you could claim significant results. You could try wet phone books or newspaper if anyone still used phone books or newspaper LOL

  • @roccoelleto9900
    @roccoelleto9900 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's amazing how tough a box of sand is.

  • @Eric--zs6um
    @Eric--zs6um 6 месяцев назад +1

    Entertaining as always!!!

  • @Adam-i9s
    @Adam-i9s 6 месяцев назад

    There all great rounds to have in your arsenal. That’s what he’s showing you. Everyone of those will get the job done

  • @classicrocker889
    @classicrocker889 2 месяца назад

    I Love the 7mm RUM YOU should have included that one.

  • @Buckshothill
    @Buckshothill 6 месяцев назад

    Great video always look forward to seeing them @@

  • @adjust.clinic
    @adjust.clinic 6 месяцев назад

    Fun fact about Banana Ballistics. When he sings at his church choir, he has a high pitched falsetto voice.
    It’s true.

  • @JeRKII
    @JeRKII 6 месяцев назад

    With water jugs everyone try's to just put them in a straight line and for some reason only seem to capture 10-15% of them.
    As you seem to come up with some new and innovate ways of holding things I look forward as to what you got for us

  • @BenAtTheTube
    @BenAtTheTube 6 месяцев назад

    I went shooting with my granddaughter. We had a large plastic bottle from cheese doodles or something, full of water, resting on a cement block. Fired a single shot of Hornaday hunting ammo in 6mm ARC - not nearly the power of the .338 Win Mag. It hit only an inch or so above the bottom of the bottle, blew the water up in the air, and the shock wave completely shattered the cement block in small pieces. Not just the top surface where the jug was sitting, but the next layer down as well. Maybe you could add an energy transfer test?

  • @BulletSpoung
    @BulletSpoung 6 месяцев назад +8

    The 338 is no pushover.

    • @stanpotter7764
      @stanpotter7764 6 месяцев назад +2

      Has the most energy, although close with 300

    • @scottmerrow1488
      @scottmerrow1488 6 месяцев назад +1

      None of the 3 is even close to a pushover. All 3 are magnum cartridges.

  • @PhilipImler-s1d
    @PhilipImler-s1d 6 месяцев назад

    Clay block instead of sand!? Idk! Love the channel bro!

  • @michaelcote1942
    @michaelcote1942 6 месяцев назад

    The Snapping Turtle Is Evil 😊

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think the sandbox is highly unrealistic unless the sand is sopping wet anyway. Easy/easy/easy? Easy: roll of shop towels in a denim pant leg with a dowel in the middle.

  • @lylewalters909
    @lylewalters909 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just a information share.. a rifle that you have shot normal bullets thru MUST clean the barrel VERY VERY well down to the metal BEFORE you shoot copper bullets. I know you're not shooting long-range or for distance, but it's a fact that rifles that shoot copper AFTER shooting normal lead bullets are very inaccurate. IDK why, but it's been proven several times by guys on RUclips like Ron spomer, Jim from Backfire, and others. By the way, great stuff and really enjoy your channel.

  • @RandyBeretta-db5bg
    @RandyBeretta-db5bg 6 месяцев назад

    I like the 300 WSM.! 😁

  • @donwyoming1936
    @donwyoming1936 6 месяцев назад

    I like the sand box. But maybe a block of drywall and a 2X4 to simulate door jams or walls.

  • @Rex_Reaper
    @Rex_Reaper 6 месяцев назад +1

    Don't get rid of the sand test, it's my favorite!!! 😅

  • @TheWiseTumor
    @TheWiseTumor 6 месяцев назад

    I'd say a good replacement for the sand would be clay, by a box made of wood or metal, but entry and exit can be hot glued or stapled cardboard at the top to form a sort of hinge and bottom just blocked by something with mass and low profile like your mild steel plates, with cardboard used it will not mess up the bullet upon entry and fling clay out of the box, and also cheap, and the data could be measured with how big the temporary wound cavity would be, I've done this on my range and it works pretty well, just gotta do more slappity slaps with form it back into shape every time, but thats just my suggestion, love your videos banana, your ballistics drive me bananas lol

  • @disturbedmaynard3873
    @disturbedmaynard3873 6 месяцев назад

    The sand is a pretty tough medium to penetrate, so you just need to find a thickness that doesn't stop everything you sling at it so that you can have winners and losers in the sand test. Seems like a 2 inch thickness is popular, so 6x6x2 inch box, then 3/4 inch space, then another box, then space, then box, then 3/4 inch plywood. I would like to hear Terry's input on this as well.

  • @jeffreybrandes881
    @jeffreybrandes881 6 месяцев назад

    Red spotted purple butterflies on Teary. 😂 "Quit messin' around."

  • @jam5287
    @jam5287 2 месяца назад

    The 338 win mag actually kicks less than a 30-06 if you have a good brake on the barrel. I love shooting my 338. And it can shoot the same bullet weights as the 300 win mag but 200-300 fps faster. You can get 3,000 fps with the 210 grain from a 338 Winchester. And you’ll get about 2,800-2,850 fps to shoot 212 grains from a 300. Go down to the 185 grain in the 338 you can get 3,300 fps. While the 300 will only go about 3,000-3,050 if you’re shooting the 180’s.

  • @jessewilliams6326
    @jessewilliams6326 6 месяцев назад

    Ultradyne Apollo Max flash suppreser. Reduces recoil 50%. I got mine at Midway!

  • @StirlingLighthouse
    @StirlingLighthouse 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Banana Man 🙏

  • @nickb8618
    @nickb8618 20 дней назад

    My two long range hunting rifles are the 7mm wsm and 300 wsm I prefer the 7mm wsm with 162 gr eldx or 168 ablr. If i wanna go, which is rare to 180-200 gr then I use the 300 wsm