The PS5 Pro sounds like a very visulally impresive upgrade 😆 However, the can pucker up and kiss my crack, if they think I am paying €800 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The PS5 should have been delayed to include these features, or use these updated specs as a blueprint for PS6 🤣🤣🤣
@@SundTFörnuft Mostly. Can't forget that some games hold the limits from poor optimization. Or even just game mechanic choices that stress out a processor with a 4090.
They're asking $700 more for a version of a system that they advertised all these features for the original version. This isn't an upgrade, this is just what they told you it was supposed to do back in 2020.
Said the exact same thing. But hey at least they were honest in the Pro Video and said targeted 60fps and not 4k 60fps gaming as the PS5 marketing did 😂
They are angry because they lost 200 Million dollars they invested on a game only to be flopped, blame us and make their consumers suffer from the failure they're responsible. That's honestly insane.
Tell me this is not official, because that is way too dumb. 600 with a disk would already be absurd for the tiny hardware improvement over the regular PS5. If true, I'll feel even better waiting for the PS6 than I did waiting for the PS5. So... Thanks, Sony, for making the PS5 Pro so unappealing.
Well, think about how much is going to be if you want to actually enjoy it and be able to play your PS5 games. 700 for the console. 150 for the disc drive. Then who knows for the vertical stand I’m gonna say 40. So you’re looking at 900+ dollars for only 28% more performance. I mean if you have $1000 to blow in these hard times you might as well just get a PC because you can do so much more with it.
@@Yakoaxxi Exactly. It’s 28% more performance. 28% and you’re looking at almost $1000 to get everything! Yeah, OK. You would have to be out of your mind to wanna buy that. Just get a PC so much better
You the man! I love how good my PC looks, but nothing in gaming beats the feeling of a console and physical copies... lots of fun for usually one 3rd of the cost of a beast PC. I missed it so much, I went out and bought an extra ps1 and my childhood collection of Ps1 games, plus some more😉
@@Kedvin7 I had so much fun at unknown game stores sifting through ps1 stacks. The one day I came up to the counter with $300 worth of ps1 games lol They were happy. I was happy. I was a dumb kid and threw out all my old jewel cases (kept a good amount of titles though) so I rebought some duplicates to have the case too.
Barely has games that use the power? Where were you when Demon souls, black myth, Horizon Forbidden west, GOW Ragnarok, and Spider-Man 2 came out? Where were you when they announced GTA 6 coming to the PS5 and Xbox, where were you when they announced Death Stranding 2. This idiot youtuber saying "slightly" better fps to LITERALLY 60fps to fidelity mode, which means you can finally run games with ray tracing, without having to play 30fps. And this also means that you will be able to not be afraid of new games coming to the system.
I'm getting one, everyone is going to want one when GTA6 comes out. At least the cost is high and it won't kill the value of regular PS5's, I hope to sell my launch model to eat some of the cost.
Yeah that was crazy! When I heard people buying at that price, I instantly knew that some folks don’t know how to wait!! No saying everyone but if some people were ok forking over $1000 dollars on a ps5, then why are they complaining for a better version at $700 dollars!!!?? Like you said above, companies see stuff like this and so they use for their profits because they know there will always be people who pay up no matter the cost!! In order to combat this, the consumer has to say “no” and WAIT!!! Remember: the consumer has the power to change things if they learn to WAIT!!!
People are constantly buying the latest piece of hardware due to fomo and lack of maturity,there are so many consoles and entertainment products to the point that you don't need to go after the new thing but many still fall for it
@@JayC4ever I waited over 3 years and I was just about to buy when I heard rumors of a PS5 pro. I tried every store in my borough the day PS5 came out and they were all sold out. Then I refused to buy out of resentment. Now I'm glad I waited.
It's a slap in the face in this economy. PS5 should be down to $450 with disc drive at this point. PS5 Pro should be no more than $599 with disc drive. There aren't chip shortages anymore. This is just because Microsoft has given up. Welcome to the world of no major competition.
Except this is gonna cause Sony to lose money also as no one is gonna buy it. At $800 this thing will sit on the shelves and people will just buy the PS5 at $450-500.
They really got out here at 11am, hyped up their overpriced console, threw around a bunch of tech bro terms, gassed up their footage as a huge upgrade to the base PS5, _n then proceeded to show almost just cinematic cutscenes of already released games..._
That ending was massive wet fart. They should've prepared a big new trailer, like Spiderman 3 or GTA6 running on PS5Pro, for the finale. Reactions would have been very different.
920€ here in Europe with the disc drive (1014 USD), 950€ with the vertical stand. That's actually not far from the cost of a really good PC. Those at Playstation responsible for the prices are insane
The big thing about PS4 Pro is that it was backed up by a huge improvement in TV technology at the time. So everyone getting a new TV needed the OneX and 4Pro to see it. Right now there’s nothing like that
I got the PS4 Pro because I got a 4K TV so the update made sense. This time, my base PS5 is doing all I need it to. The other issue I found was that the mid gen half step made the PS4-PS5 performance gap seem so much smaller. I'll wait for the PS6 to come around so I feel the difference.
The moment everything becomes digital, the consumer loses and companies have pretty much full control on pricing. There's absolutely no way anyone should see digital "ownership" a viable move for the consumer, there's literally zero gains for the customer and everything to gain for these multi billion dollar corporations.
Ironically, many will be coming from Microsoft, starting with COD, followed Indiana Jones and Doom the Dark Ages. Microsoft is about to make a ton of money and Sony is going to get their cut.
I blame people who scalped the ps5 during covid. The fact that it was selling for over 1k dollars made Sony believe people are still willing to pay that
Good luck, the switch 2 will be scalped for a VERY long time unless Nintendo does something. I'll be waiting for the inevitable switch 2 Zelda special edition that will release with the new Zelda game however many years from now.
Interesting because Saturn famously had their presentation talking about price and then Playstation walks out and says their cheaper price before leaving to applause. Now they're just dumping out a new console in the same high price way where they are opening themselves up to competition coming to overtake them.
@@holyheretic3185 it's the conversion rate. it's $800 us, but also £800. currently you get $1.30 to the pound if you came to the UK on holiday $1044 would get you £800 uk pounds
Remember the gap between PS1 and PS2? Back then i could see a difference.... nowadays, i need a magnifying glass with both displays side by side to maybe make myself believe that i might see some kind of difference.
Yep I pulled out of normal console gaming I went to pc and tbh lost my love for games all together. I got myself an Rog ly with 3080 and it just fits me. Plays all games I own at 30/60 fps in handheld and all games 4k 60fps on my TV with my pro controller. Consoles were always about fun and pickup and play but now it's about oooo look at the pixels it produces but going to cost as much as a pc. Then we wonder why gaming is getting smaller. Yes ps5 sold well but 360/ps3 and wii all sold 80m + gaming needs a reset imo
There's no excuse for a console to cost $700 and not include a Disc Drive too. Like when the PS4 Pro came out, it replaced the PS4 in the price....the PS4 Pro came out costing $400, and the PS4 got bumped down to $300 and it was the PS4 Slim released at the same time with the better WiFi card than the original PS4. Sony is getting too greedy....and "inflation" will not be a reason for either. That would be a BS excuse if they use that. The PS5 Pro could have easily replaced the PS5 in price OR at most be $550 to $600 with the Disc Drive included. BOYCOTT buying the PS5 Pro, vote with your wallets and let economics do the rest. They will lower the price if sales are very low.
Nahh fam. Did you forget about the scalpers on 2020!? They only were selling for 800-1000$ and people bought it still. It took 2 years to see one on the shelf in Walmart… 700 is an anti scalper tactic. If you don’t want one don’t get onw
@@Blazingboy15 I don't think $700 is an anti scalper tactic...an anti-scalper tactic was allowing only 1 person to buy a console by invitation like they did later on when they had lower volume of PS5 consoles. Here's the thing I do want one, but I don't want one for $700 only digital plus $80 for a disc drive. If it had been like PS4 Pro coming out to replace the price of regular PS4, then I'd sell my PS5 and buy the PS5 Pro for a minor difference, not this gap. The reason possibly people still buying the scalpers during the pandemic was well it seemed like it would take forever that chips would not be scarce, thankfully it did not take as long as it appeared. The hype of a new console generation probably helped too. I don't think that same hype is existing right now as you can buy a regular PS5 to play the games coming out. Also think of this, people go buy this console at this price, when the PS6 comes out expect at least to pay $700 if not $800 for it.
Slim series always got smaller and cheaper, the Pro got better and more affordable. PS5 Pro got neither. Bigger GPU, but the CPU is the same, and they increased storage to 2 TB. Not enough for that price
@@fdrodreeguez20 ps direct let you only get one at a time but not retail… so yes making in 700 is an way to minimize scalping. Again . For the first 2 years millions of ps5s were sold ABOVE 700 from scalpers.
Reminder this is only happening because Microsoft refuses to bring its A game and analysts are telling Sony that Nintendo is not a threat even though they are.
Right. I thought the pro versions usually cost less or the same bc they usually have since released some kind of cheaper slim version by then. This sounds insane to me. 700 bones for a dated console is wild
@@ChasingStarz-Ou812 no most don't have it. I doubt this is mainly aimed at people who have a 5 to upgrade. You'd be stupid but that was always the case
$700 for a console that doesn’t even come with a stand, a disc drive, and no actual upgrade … Sony, what am I supposed to do with all of these disc copies of games I have????? You all just kicked us straight in the face… nobody is buying this… THIS IS A MASSIVE DOWNGRADE… should’ve been called “ps5 scam”
@@robertlawrence9000do you even know your PlayStation is run by crazy cat lady I’m right your wrong can’t take constructive criticism and call your audience bigots 😂
They need to give us something new with this price. Make it backwards compatible PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 with upscaling. Give us a PSVR 1 port, Give us cheat codes for single player games. Offline games... Do something.
No same person will pay 700 bucks for q console. This is like that McDonalds insanity where they charge you for junk food as if you're getting some fantastic meal.
$700 for the console...if you want to play disc cough up $80 more......oh you want to have the console vertically??.........$30 more buddy and let's not forget ps plus and an extra controller..........so $1k+ for a console and accessories before you buy the first game.......no thanks
The funny thing is that our regular PS5s are not basic at all. They are very capable systems. It all comes down to developers putting in the work while making the games.
How terrible is PS doing this gen...incredible. Closing studios, laying of massive numbers of developers, canceling unfinished games, canceling finished game and even take them of the market after release, putting out a console for 800,00€ with no justification...what a bad showing,
Meanwhile, Nintendo is making the switch Successor $400, Still got a bunch of good quality games coming out for the switch, Opening a really cool Nintendo museum, and Giving a bunch of indie games a chance to shine in Indie world directs. Yes Nintendo has problems of their own, but with the way Xbox and Sony are going, I'm glad I got a switch.
@@alphonsejohnson5601 Right because Nintendo isn't scum as well. Release in 2017, get a revision in 2019 with better battery and some other things. 2019 also gets the Switch lite and in 2021 do the Switch with an OLED screen and in LAN connection on the docking station... And don't get me started on the stickdrift on their controllers which is way more frequent than on the dualsense. And guess what the Switch 2 is supposed to release with and LCD screen instead of the OLED one. Why? Because they can release the OLED model 2-3 years later and praise it as something new. My sister bought every of the 4 Switch versions and it is the same console. At the very least the PS5 pro does improve internally doesn't change that the price is way to high. But maybe they will consider it if the complains keep going. But I can already bet that the Pro will sell really well the moment GTA6 is close on the horizon.
Okay, I totally understand why you think this. Before I did my own research, gun to my head, I would have guaranteed you that Sony marketed the ps5 as a 4K60fps console. But I went back and watched and read almost all of the marketing info. They never once said the ps5 would produce 4K60fps. It was always “up to” 4k and “up to” 60fps. I was so confused. I remember them saying 4k@60! But nope, they never did. Not once that I found. I felt crazy.
@@Mark-mu6bc well, yes it does. But dude I’m telling you I couldn’t find them once saying 4k@60fps! Oh my god please show me the link where they say that. I don’t even believe myself because I REMEMBER them saying 4k@60fps but I’ve never been able to find it.
Instead of making those games, the developers decided to use the hardware differently. It could be done if they used older gen techniques but instead they try to squeeze everything they can out of the hardware with newer tools that use newer effects causing the system to bog down.
Everyone is complaining about the price but the consumers are the reason PS can get away with the $700 price tag. Sony literally got away with starting the trend of $70 games and got away with charging customers an extra $10 dollars to upgrade the games they already own to the PS5. Sony thinks they can get away with this price because a MASSIVE portion of people let them get away with stuff like this constantly
While you’re not wrong, games made a major upgrade over the years as well as cost more to make while we still paid the same price for several console generations
Exactly. People are clueless about supply and demand. Sony doing exactly what the scalpers are doing and people are still buying, so why stop? There's never inflation, just greed and more greed.
@@alphonsogaston7276 The games now are much worse than before. There is no game that comes out without bugs, no patches day one, they basically release incomplete games.
200 dollars more than a PS5 and no disc drive is crazy work. You're looking at over 800 dollars with taxes if you get a disc drive. What in the world are we doing? Console gaming is supposed to be reasonable but this has gotten out of hand. Major L for Sony for going this route
Sony messed up on this one. They lost their minds. These are PC prices. Why the heck that I am going to spend 800 dollars on this when I can get a PC for just 200 more or at the same price as this? Nintendo need to announce the Switch 2 so they can win the console race
I'm with you that the ps5 is overpriced but 200 more on a PC still won't get you to a ps5 pro. Maybe $1600 pc would. But the PC does way more than just videogames. Console shouldn't cost that much.
@@goyoschivasI am pretty sure with 1000$ you can make a stronger pc than a pro. And a pc is far more versatile machine, so it s not even s competition. Consoles were good for exclusives and for low prices. In 2024 with under 1000$ you can make a very decent PC. What is the point of a PS with little to no exclusivity? I can make a cabinet ITX PC with a wireless xbox controller...
That's nuts... I just took one apart to fix stick drift. So far so good. My original ps1 controllers still work! Never had a drift or button issue. The dual sense is the best feeling controller i've ever used, but can't believe 1 year and i had to fix drift.
@real_Pinoy why are you getting it day one? I too am getting it day one but I know exactly what problem I am having in what game that I am hoping a more powerful console will resolve what is your reason?
What we learned is sony gave a big massive middle finger to its current ps5 owners, we got promised everything they advertise for the pro and never delivered.
As soon you realize both Sony and Nintendo don't care, they just want your money. Things will start to turn right around but it's wrong they're doing this.
I recently bought a ps1 and hunted down copies of all my childhood collection... boy was that fun and it is so nice holding a disc that's actually your game. I still love the new stuff, but playing the oldies is enjoyable.
Everyone!!! Please don't buy it, so that it fails and they are forced to lower the price. In Europe it costs 800€ without a stand and without a drive. We have to be smart about this abuse of the consumer. Console with drive, with stand, with PS Plus ~1000€. It's unacceptable. Let's fight by not buying!!!! If they don't set a fair price, we'll have to consider switching to its competitors.
@@liamhiggins9499 US also charges 70-100k pounds converted and we pay 9k per year = 27k - For education - So use that saved 50-80k on maybe 20 ps5 pros and then sunbath with the rest
Me trying to compare the side-by-side comparisons: "Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture" "They're the same picture"
I'm just gonna say from a personal perspective point of view, with the distance my couch is from my TV, I never even noticed the "distant object blurriness" that Sony was talking about, and I play everything on performance mode. Also it not having a disc drive is a hard pass at 700 USD.
I do not care about resolution, i have always played my games on lowest manageable settings just to get the best fps i can. I would take Bloodborne 60 fps over a 4-5k resolution in a heartbeat. Who care if Call of duty are in 4K, nobody look at the backdrops anyway. 3000 devs, coder and artist for nothing.
Consoles have traditionally had two big benefits over PC: price and exclusives. At $700-800, you can build a pretty good PC these days. And in terms of exclusives, there are currently less than 20 PS5-exclusive games, 3 of which are remakes/remasters.
Don't forget almost every Sony game but Astrobot is pretty much the same thing. 1. Fight Bad Guys 2. Walk Under a log or crack in the wall. 3. Listen to characters who never shut up 4. Repeat
@Jep-f9t @@Marmite101I was mostly a last gen kid and grew up with the PS2 but I have fond memories of playing PS3/360/Wii at friends houses. Wii sports with cousins. Also my best friend introduced me to halo reach. I did get a PS3 and 360 but it was almost when PS4 released and two or three years after, I ended up selling them since I wanted a PC so I miss them now lol. I did find a cheap 360 though.
700 dollars is 635 euros but Sony decided to sell it in EU at 800 euros WITHOUT disc drive. The upgrade is there but it's the strict minimum, 4K60 was expected on the vanilla PS5 and paying 350 bucks more just to get 60 fps is lame. They could push more of 120 fps in perfomance mode instead of marketing the fidelity mode.
This is a marketing tactic by Sony… if you want to know how read on: Sony doesn’t want to lower the price of the PlayStation 5. So what they’ve done is released a different version at a much higher price point. If you look at what you get for the disc-less, the disc version, and now the pro version without a disc drive, the disc version now looks like the best deal. In marketing, we call this price anchoring. And this is how Sony can make the disc version of the PlayStation 5 look way more attractive to new buyers. For current owners who upgrade to the pro version, I assure you there is enough profit built into the price to make it worth it. The R&D cost required for this will not be hard to recoup in the profit made for every provers sold. And if Sony did lower the price by $100, or even $50 this holiday - the pro version still makes them all look very attractive. The pro version is released solely for price anchoring.
I feel like this is exactly what they are doing. However as someone who doesn't own a ps5 but was looking forward to the price drop, this puts me off of PS in general and into furthering my knowledge of PC. Thankfully I started a cybersecurity and network administration course last year taht taught me the basics of computers so I'm not starting from scratch but I think the time investment into learning tech will be much more valuable than donating money to a greedy company that has absolutely abhorrent customer service.
This is Apple Logic Most of the RnD have already been done and the components for the hardware already sourced. Much thanks to the Vanilla PS5 So now they are going to squeeze the customer out of every penny they can. Increase the price on the consoles, controllers, stand, diskdrives, and not to forget incoming price hikes on games and subscriptions. It's a shame i have always liked Sony, but i guess that is about to change.
Sony has done this to gamers for years. Multitaps, 8mb memory cards, horizontal and vertical stands. I’m surprised they decided to include the controller and charge cable for it.
@@M.N.9 We want to keep prices low and Sony to be competitive with their competitors. I mean Sony does not know what Xbox will be doing, neither do we, so why commit to a price tag that can brackfire if Xbox releases their “Pro” model? They just gave them the opening to price their console much lower than the PS5 Pro by a substantial margin. Xbox should most definitely capitalize on this moment. 600€ = $660, so to us in the US I think that’s still too much. I stand by the $550 price tag for the US. That would be 498.80€ for you guys in Europe.
@@michaelvangelista335 ikr, but i am saying, that ps5 pro is the digital one, if the digital one should be 550$ for a good price, then the disk one could be 600$
I am a mainly a pc gamer but ps5 and consoles are more then their specs. The optimizations and unified hardware let the hardware punch far above its specs. I think a 5800x3d and a 6800 is more the baseline ps5 experience with the pro seemingly adding ray tracing to the 4070 super-4070ti level.
I was going to purchase a ps5 this year but wanted to wait for the pro. So I bought a steam deck to hold me over. Now I find the steam deck was a far better investment than purchasing a PS5 Pro. At most I’ll get a PS5 slim now. With a cd driver
good answer. I love my ps5 OG on 4k tv, feel no need to upgrade until ps6. Saying all this while having a monster PC too. Playing at 120 fps on PC doesn't make me feel like a $500 ps5 should be equal lol
ALSO IT HAS NO DISC DRIVE! IT'S $700 WITH NO DISC DRIVE?! YOU HAVE TO BUY ONE SEPARATELY WHICH MAKES IT CLOSER TO $800?! LOL
And the stand.
And there without tax, a stand nor an SSD 😵💫
The PS5 Pro sounds like a very visulally impresive upgrade 😆 However, the can pucker up and kiss my crack, if they think I am paying €800 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The PS5 should have been delayed to include these features, or use these updated specs as a blueprint for PS6 🤣🤣🤣
surprised they didn't have the controller sold separately
I kept looking at the price like I saw a ghost. Like what!? $699 digital is INSANE 🤪
"Play Has No Limits."
No disc drive. No stand. $700.
Play Has ALOT Of Limits Now!
Isn't that a laugh? haha Pretty sure that isn't true for any system, even PC. There's definitely a limit haha
A LOT*
Only customers have limits, in their pockets and wallets
@@SundTFörnuft Mostly. Can't forget that some games hold the limits from poor optimization. Or even just game mechanic choices that stress out a processor with a 4090.
🤣🤣
They're asking $700 more for a version of a system that they advertised all these features for the original version. This isn't an upgrade, this is just what they told you it was supposed to do back in 2020.
Yea my ps5 box says 8k gaming on it. 😅
Yes now u can see more detail on Abbys dong in last of us part 2 ..........a 5 years old game lol
Said the exact same thing. But hey at least they were honest in the Pro Video and said targeted 60fps and not 4k 60fps gaming as the PS5 marketing did 😂
Just wait till the pro doesnt get 60 fps and they throw you a curve ball named ps5 pro ultra with all these features haha
Yesss! I initially thought...wasn't this promised before with advertising Playstation 5?
They are angry because they lost 200 Million dollars they invested on a game only to be flopped, blame us and make their consumers suffer from the failure they're responsible. That's honestly insane.
Concord loss more than $200 mil and the Pro will flop harder.
Customers don't have to pay that price tag...
I'm pretty sure they originally planned to show that game today and had to scrap it at the last minute
700 without a disk drive and a stand is absolutely ridiculous
Not including TAX TOO!!!!
Tell me this is not official, because that is way too dumb. 600 with a disk would already be absurd for the tiny hardware improvement over the regular PS5. If true, I'll feel even better waiting for the PS6 than I did waiting for the PS5. So... Thanks, Sony, for making the PS5 Pro so unappealing.
Well, think about how much is going to be if you want to actually enjoy it and be able to play your PS5 games. 700 for the console. 150 for the disc drive. Then who knows for the vertical stand I’m gonna say 40. So you’re looking at 900+ dollars for only 28% more performance. I mean if you have $1000 to blow in these hard times you might as well just get a PC because you can do so much more with it.
@@Paulo-1999 > tiny hardware improvement
gtfo
@@Yakoaxxi Exactly. It’s 28% more performance. 28% and you’re looking at almost $1000 to get everything! Yeah, OK. You would have to be out of your mind to wanna buy that. Just get a PC so much better
I buy consoles for 2 reasons 1. Price and 2. Physical media. This console has neither.
This console has a price
You the man! I love how good my PC looks, but nothing in gaming beats the feeling of a console and physical copies... lots of fun for usually one 3rd of the cost of a beast PC. I missed it so much, I went out and bought an extra ps1 and my childhood collection of Ps1 games, plus some more😉
@@bjornironsides6474 i almost shed a tear brother... so true
@@Kedvin7 I had so much fun at unknown game stores sifting through ps1 stacks. The one day I came up to the counter with $300 worth of ps1 games lol They were happy. I was happy. I was a dumb kid and threw out all my old jewel cases (kept a good amount of titles though) so I rebought some duplicates to have the case too.
@@bjornironsides6474 lol those days are over gtfo
Hard pass for $800 with the disc drive. I’m good with my PS5 and Series X.
Same.
Agreed 👍 💯
@@Geo-Typo same.
In EU it is 920 with disc... crazy.
Same here brotha 👍🏻
$700 for a mid-life console that serves practically no point and barely has any games that use the power? Anybody who buys this is just dumb.
I agree 100%
No one is gonna buy this. They lost the plot.
Barely has games that use the power? Where were you when Demon souls, black myth, Horizon Forbidden west, GOW Ragnarok, and Spider-Man 2 came out? Where were you when they announced GTA 6 coming to the PS5 and Xbox, where were you when they announced Death Stranding 2. This idiot youtuber saying "slightly" better fps to LITERALLY 60fps to fidelity mode, which means you can finally run games with ray tracing, without having to play 30fps. And this also means that you will be able to not be afraid of new games coming to the system.
If the price point wasnt so crazy it would be worth the purchase
I'm getting one, everyone is going to want one when GTA6 comes out. At least the cost is high and it won't kill the value of regular PS5's, I hope to sell my launch model to eat some of the cost.
TO ALL THE FOOLS WHO BOUGHT PS5s FROM SCALPERS FOR $1200 THIS IS WHAT YOU GET, YOU HELPED SONY MAKE THIS DECISION
PS5 Pro "Concord Scalp Edition" The way your are meant to be played"
Yeah that was crazy! When I heard people buying at that price, I instantly knew that some folks don’t know how to wait!!
No saying everyone but if some people were ok forking over $1000 dollars on a ps5, then why are they complaining for a better version at $700 dollars!!!??
Like you said above, companies see stuff like this and so they use for their profits because they know there will always be people who pay up no matter the cost!! In order to combat this, the consumer has to say “no” and WAIT!!!
Remember: the consumer has the power to change things if they learn to WAIT!!!
People are constantly buying the latest piece of hardware due to fomo and lack of maturity,there are so many consoles and entertainment products to the point that you don't need to go after the new thing but many still fall for it
@@JayC4ever I waited over 3 years and I was just about to buy when I heard rumors of a PS5 pro.
I tried every store in my borough the day PS5 came out and they were all sold out. Then I refused to buy out of resentment. Now I'm glad I waited.
Idk about everyone else but i got mine on release for $500 lol
I'm a Sony fanboy... and even I'll say that $699.99 with no drive is absolutely psychotic.
Clearly Sony is relieving the days of the PS3 launch from 2006.
It has to be so they sell more ps5 slims. Pro's may be few on the shelf at best.
Calling yourself a fanboy is cringe.
@@matthew-dq8vk nothing wrong with being a fan boy as long as you’re not a biased one.
Sony: “people will buy it anyway”
Please, let’s do another EA or blizzard boycott
It's a slap in the face in this economy. PS5 should be down to $450 with disc drive at this point. PS5 Pro should be no more than $599 with disc drive. There aren't chip shortages anymore. This is just because Microsoft has given up. Welcome to the world of no major competition.
Except this is gonna cause Sony to lose money also as no one is gonna buy it. At $800 this thing will sit on the shelves and people will just buy the PS5 at $450-500.
I don't do PS but my main concern would be how far into next gen will this PRO take you? Do they have to buy the PS6 later too?
Microsoft is the biggest gaming company in the world with the biggest first party studios. I don't think they've given up bud. Lol
Good point re the competition.
@@ReptilianRichardRamirez I believe they have in terms of consoles, there aim is for streaming and getting Xbox Live on as many devices as possible.
They really got out here at 11am, hyped up their overpriced console, threw around a bunch of tech bro terms, gassed up their footage as a huge upgrade to the base PS5, _n then proceeded to show almost just cinematic cutscenes of already released games..._
That ending was massive wet fart. They should've prepared a big new trailer, like Spiderman 3 or GTA6 running on PS5Pro, for the finale. Reactions would have been very different.
🤦🏿♂️
@@bethanyh1637They werent going to showcase Spider-Man 3 for a rinky dink mid gen refresh. Thats a PS6 game. Stop it. 🤣
@@tonymcneill7779a $700 device is now rinky dink?? 😂😂😂
Yes, yes they did. Now... how many are you buying 😂😂😂
That’s over $900 Canadian!!!!
PlayStation is out of their fucking minds!!!!
OVER 1000! With the disc drive holy
@@BladesPrincess nobody is paying that kind of money for a damn PlayStation or any console ever in a normal household!!!
920€ here in Europe with the disc drive (1014 USD), 950€ with the vertical stand. That's actually not far from the cost of a really good PC. Those at Playstation responsible for the prices are insane
You can almost buy a good gaming laptop for $1000
I bought my original disc PS5 for 1,100 from Scalper . O well
The big thing about PS4 Pro is that it was backed up by a huge improvement in TV technology at the time. So everyone getting a new TV needed the OneX and 4Pro to see it.
Right now there’s nothing like that
Good point
I got the PS4 Pro because I got a 4K TV so the update made sense. This time, my base PS5 is doing all I need it to.
The other issue I found was that the mid gen half step made the PS4-PS5 performance gap seem so much smaller. I'll wait for the PS6 to come around so I feel the difference.
The moment everything becomes digital, the consumer loses and companies have pretty much full control on pricing.
There's absolutely no way anyone should see digital "ownership" a viable move for the consumer, there's literally zero gains for the customer and everything to gain for these multi billion dollar corporations.
800€ in Europe, without the stand that cost 30€, without the disc drive that cost 120€. Meaning 950€ in total. This is a total scam. Buy a PC
europa pays 150 euro more then amerika use dollar euro converter
@@VecnaTwoja youre wrong mate. 800 euro is 880 dollar.
I've been waiting for the Pro for so long now and they do this move wtf. No buy from me. You got reccommandations what you could get in the PC space?
@@VecnaTwoja we should pay 635 euro
@@VecnaTwoja as a European, no this is an insane price. an Xbox Series X is 450-500 with disk drive no stand needed.
Sony is trying to cover Jim Ryan's retirement package, as well as the financial loss on Concord.
They advertise all these new tricks with the Pro; however, we need to ask the more important question: Where are the games?
Ironically, many will be coming from Microsoft, starting with COD, followed Indiana Jones and Doom the Dark Ages. Microsoft is about to make a ton of money and Sony is going to get their cut.
Id rather they had backwards compatibility for ps3 games. Upscale them like xbox did
@@dustygearheadI strongly agree, but they’d rather you pay for streaming ps3 games via PS premium.
100% agree. It's not like there is a big library of games for ps5. Their biggest IPs released on ps4. I don't understand why we need a pro.
@@gamer2101 Jedi Survivor comes out next week on Ps4
I can’t believe $700 doesn’t even hice a disc drive
I blame people who scalped the ps5 during covid. The fact that it was selling for over 1k dollars made Sony believe people are still willing to pay that
You dont want it vertical, unless tou like to pay EVEN MORE for overheating or shutdown issues
That was money to the scalpers tho not Sony. Sony still charged the same. So that's kinda irrelevant to them
I have a feeling people are still willing go pay that, it's going to sell out.
@@John-oo9xuwdym? wouldn’t putting it in vertical not make it overheat? since it’s not touching ground laying flat
nobody got that covid money no more lol
£800 including the disc drive is insane! thats $1044 US!!
I'm holding on to my launch edition PS5, and put my money on the Switch 2 when it releases.
Which is weird that it's $700 bucks. Or ~€640. Why are they paying so much more? Lol
@@holyheretic3185sony always rip us off in the uk. Sony is a disgrace for this
Good luck, the switch 2 will be scalped for a VERY long time unless Nintendo does something. I'll be waiting for the inevitable switch 2 Zelda special edition that will release with the new Zelda game however many years from now.
Interesting because Saturn famously had their presentation talking about price and then Playstation walks out and says their cheaper price before leaving to applause.
Now they're just dumping out a new console in the same high price way where they are opening themselves up to competition coming to overtake them.
@@holyheretic3185 it's the conversion rate.
it's $800 us, but also £800. currently you get $1.30 to the pound
if you came to the UK on holiday $1044 would get you £800 uk pounds
Remember the gap between PS1 and PS2? Back then i could see a difference.... nowadays, i need a magnifying glass with both displays side by side to maybe make myself believe that i might see some kind of difference.
fps
You don’t see all those extra tree leaves?
@@John_Lee_bro its like a car with 500 hp and a car with 700 hp, you cant fucking tell the difference when driving
@@John_Lee_ill stick to performance mode . Not worth it imo
Yep I pulled out of normal console gaming I went to pc and tbh lost my love for games all together. I got myself an Rog ly with 3080 and it just fits me. Plays all games I own at 30/60 fps in handheld and all games 4k 60fps on my TV with my pro controller. Consoles were always about fun and pickup and play but now it's about oooo look at the pixels it produces but going to cost as much as a pc. Then we wonder why gaming is getting smaller. Yes ps5 sold well but 360/ps3 and wii all sold 80m + gaming needs a reset imo
If they wanted people to have the best experience with the Pro model, they should’ve included the disc drive. Absolute embarrassment
There's no excuse for a console to cost $700 and not include a Disc Drive too.
Like when the PS4 Pro came out, it replaced the PS4 in the price....the PS4 Pro came out costing $400, and the PS4 got bumped down to $300 and it was the PS4 Slim released at the same time with the better WiFi card than the original PS4.
Sony is getting too greedy....and "inflation" will not be a reason for either. That would be a BS excuse if they use that.
The PS5 Pro could have easily replaced the PS5 in price OR at most be $550 to $600 with the Disc Drive included.
BOYCOTT buying the PS5 Pro, vote with your wallets and let economics do the rest. They will lower the price if sales are very low.
Nahh fam. Did you forget about the scalpers on 2020!? They only were selling for 800-1000$ and people bought it still.
It took 2 years to see one on the shelf in Walmart…
700 is an anti scalper tactic.
If you don’t want one don’t get onw
@@Blazingboy15 I don't think $700 is an anti scalper tactic...an anti-scalper tactic was allowing only 1 person to buy a console by invitation like they did later on when they had lower volume of PS5 consoles.
Here's the thing I do want one, but I don't want one for $700 only digital plus $80 for a disc drive. If it had been like PS4 Pro coming out to replace the price of regular PS4, then I'd sell my PS5 and buy the PS5 Pro for a minor difference, not this gap.
The reason possibly people still buying the scalpers during the pandemic was well it seemed like it would take forever that chips would not be scarce, thankfully it did not take as long as it appeared. The hype of a new console generation probably helped too. I don't think that same hype is existing right now as you can buy a regular PS5 to play the games coming out.
Also think of this, people go buy this console at this price, when the PS6 comes out expect at least to pay $700 if not $800 for it.
@@Blazingboy15part of the problem.
Slim series always got smaller and cheaper, the Pro got better and more affordable.
PS5 Pro got neither. Bigger GPU, but the CPU is the same, and they increased storage to 2 TB. Not enough for that price
@@fdrodreeguez20 ps direct let you only get one at a time but not retail… so yes making in 700 is an way to minimize scalping.
Again . For the first 2 years millions of ps5s were sold ABOVE 700 from scalpers.
Long live physical media!
Disc Drive Sold Separately
Long live PS2
Aye!
Yes sir
Nintendo will beat Sony again next generation as well.
A $700 console with _no disk drive_ is absolutely diabolical...
Somebody at PlayStation drink all the Kool-Aid
Don’t forget the stand 😉
Reminder this is only happening because Microsoft refuses to bring its A game and analysts are telling Sony that Nintendo is not a threat even though they are.
Right. I thought the pro versions usually cost less or the same bc they usually have since released some kind of cheaper slim version by then. This sounds insane to me. 700 bones for a dated console is wild
They've become the apple of gaming 😂
Xbox: We suck!
Playstation: Hold my beer.
Nintendo : hold my lawsuits
700$ is mad wild for a console that has no disc drive
I'd get over the no disk drive and just download them...but still crazy price. Even with a disk drive.
Plus most players already have the PS5 they paid full price for - and how far into next gen will this PRO take customers?
@@ChasingStarz-Ou812 no most don't have it. I doubt this is mainly aimed at people who have a 5 to upgrade. You'd be stupid but that was always the case
@@bloodhoug82 3-4 years, then BOOM PS6, loooooool
@@Tombstonecross I think sooner than later since this gen consoles are weaker already
$700 for a console that doesn’t even come with a stand, a disc drive, and no actual upgrade … Sony, what am I supposed to do with all of these disc copies of games I have????? You all just kicked us straight in the face… nobody is buying this… THIS IS A MASSIVE DOWNGRADE… should’ve been called “ps5 scam”
Not the PS5 Pro but the PS5 Poo.
The downfall of Sony PlayStation needs to be studied. $700🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ cmon man.
Welcome to the downfall of video games.
@@redcrimson1028 I blame modern audience devs
How is this a downfall when it's a rise up. Stop being so cheap. You want cheap and you will get cheap and not be happy with cheap.
All three of your comments are beyond dumb. The downfall of PlayStation? 😂 Get a grip
@@robertlawrence9000do you even know your PlayStation is run by crazy cat lady I’m right your wrong can’t take constructive criticism and call your audience bigots 😂
My Switch is in the corner, laughing
The switch can barely run ET for atari
@@crescentsweep2460 .....right
They need to give us something new with this price. Make it backwards compatible PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 with upscaling. Give us a PSVR 1 port, Give us cheat codes for single player games. Offline games... Do something.
They'll send you a paper certificate that says "you did it!" And never talk to you again😆 Nah, that's too much, it'll be an emailed certificate.
@@bjornironsides6474 That sounds about right.
No same person will pay 700 bucks for q console. This is like that McDonalds insanity where they charge you for junk food as if you're getting some fantastic meal.
@@Mako2401 Ha ha that's true. It only woks in an uneducated gluttonous society fixated on instant gratification.
$700 for the console...if you want to play disc cough up $80 more......oh you want to have the console vertically??.........$30 more buddy and let's not forget ps plus and an extra controller..........so $1k+ for a console and accessories before you buy the first game.......no thanks
That's what the base system is for. This is for those who want better fidelity, better framerates and more ray tracing.
@robertlawrence9000 so the majority of absolutely no one
...and controllers went up lol
Don't forget a 4k TV if you really want to see and use all those nice new graphic functions lol I'll stick with my PC and steam deck
@@robertlawrence9000at that 1000 all in price a pc makes more sense tho
The audacity of Sony to advertise it at $700 without a stand and disk drive is appalling
At that rate, diskdrive, stand and a lifetime subscription to PS+ vanilla should be mandatory
I'll call the PS6 will be digital only
Shigeru Miyamoto is laughing watching Sony ruin themselves like this.
I’m happy with my basic PS5. Not big enough of a difference to justify that price and no disk drive.
The funny thing is that our regular PS5s are not basic at all. They are very capable systems. It all comes down to developers putting in the work while making the games.
@@iamTato Agreed. Developers need to get good.
@JamesLFilms not gonna happen. Lazy millennial devs
@@KenKaniff-dw4jw Right, it's over.
@@FrankWhiteSamCarter so incredibly sad. Couldn't be me
Prices in Europe are even more ridiculous. 800 euros for a console with no disc drive?! WTH are they smoking?!
950$ last time i checked with a guy working at a local reseller
Get a Nintendo Switch (for 300 Euros) with a nice GameCard ... and problem solved.
How terrible is PS doing this gen...incredible. Closing studios, laying of massive numbers of developers, canceling unfinished games, canceling finished game and even take them of the market after release, putting out a console for 800,00€ with no justification...what a bad showing,
Yet u won't hear anyone complaining about it they will only focus on xbox smh
Yeahhh think I'm gonna go to pc.
Meanwhile, Nintendo is making the switch Successor $400, Still got a bunch of good quality games coming out for the switch, Opening a really cool Nintendo museum, and Giving a bunch of indie games a chance to shine in Indie world directs. Yes Nintendo has problems of their own, but with the way Xbox and Sony are going, I'm glad I got a switch.
@@alphonsejohnson5601 Right because Nintendo isn't scum as well. Release in 2017, get a revision in 2019 with better battery and some other things. 2019 also gets the Switch lite and in 2021 do the Switch with an OLED screen and in LAN connection on the docking station... And don't get me started on the stickdrift on their controllers which is way more frequent than on the dualsense.
And guess what the Switch 2 is supposed to release with and LCD screen instead of the OLED one. Why? Because they can release the OLED model 2-3 years later and praise it as something new.
My sister bought every of the 4 Switch versions and it is the same console. At the very least the PS5 pro does improve internally doesn't change that the price is way to high.
But maybe they will consider it if the complains keep going.
But I can already bet that the Pro will sell really well the moment GTA6 is close on the horizon.
Xbox is definitely doing worse than ps5, the whole generation is a let down tbh. It's a handheld generation, let's hope switch 2 is out of this world.
Yeah SCREW SONY!!!!! I’ve depleted my savings account just paying basic crap like rent and car repairs. $700?!? F outta here!
What about food? Did you not buy groceries?
@@solonepeon5805 yeah all that shiiii
$699 no drive 😂 sony smoking rocks
😂😂
They gotta be on that sht smh
Alot of poor gamers in comments
@@real_Pinoy Being downright stupid with your money is not flex, kid. 😂
@@real_Pinoy alot of smart gamers in comments...fixed it for you
This thing is almost $900 if you plan on getting a disc drive. Let that sink in for a minute.
Dont forget another 1k for an 8tb ssd internal drive.
@@VforVendetta13 Don't forget my external 900tb sata ssd storage server for 15k.
Nope, I'm continuing to play my PS4 pro. I might get the ps5 slim but I'm not rushing to do so.
Don't forget you can build a budget pc with better performance now.
Im letting dat sink in and we about to throw a party! Screw Sony!
No disc drive = no buy
Sony was so pleased with the reception of Concord that they decided they are going to replicate it with the PS5 Pro!
What gets me is we were suppose to have 4K at 60 fps as the norm for the regular PS5 and Series X.
Okay, I totally understand why you think this. Before I did my own research, gun to my head, I would have guaranteed you that Sony marketed the ps5 as a 4K60fps console.
But I went back and watched and read almost all of the marketing info. They never once said the ps5 would produce 4K60fps. It was always “up to” 4k and “up to” 60fps. I was so confused. I remember them saying 4k@60! But nope, they never did. Not once that I found. I felt crazy.
It says 8k on the ps5 box 😂
@@Mark-mu6bc well, yes it does. But dude I’m telling you I couldn’t find them once saying 4k@60fps! Oh my god please show me the link where they say that. I don’t even believe myself because I REMEMBER them saying 4k@60fps but I’ve never been able to find it.
No one ever said this. It's a $500 console dude. $3000 pc's can't even run 4k as the norm.
Instead of making those games, the developers decided to use the hardware differently. It could be done if they used older gen techniques but instead they try to squeeze everything they can out of the hardware with newer tools that use newer effects causing the system to bog down.
Everyone is complaining about the price but the consumers are the reason PS can get away with the $700 price tag. Sony literally got away with starting the trend of $70 games and got away with charging customers an extra $10 dollars to upgrade the games they already own to the PS5.
Sony thinks they can get away with this price because a MASSIVE portion of people let them get away with stuff like this constantly
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While you’re not wrong, games made a major upgrade over the years as well as cost more to make while we still paid the same price for several console generations
If the scalper don’t by this then it will be a Sony flop.
Exactly. People are clueless about supply and demand. Sony doing exactly what the scalpers are doing and people are still buying, so why stop? There's never inflation, just greed and more greed.
@@alphonsogaston7276 The games now are much worse than before. There is no game that comes out without bugs, no patches day one, they basically release incomplete games.
200 dollars more than a PS5 and no disc drive is crazy work. You're looking at over 800 dollars with taxes if you get a disc drive. What in the world are we doing? Console gaming is supposed to be reasonable but this has gotten out of hand. Major L for Sony for going this route
What's going to be a eye opener is the next state of play you'll see more old games showing off the little upgrade & few new games watch.
Anyone who pays $250 extra for a barely noticeable change like this is insane
Paying more for less features is insane, Sony deserved Concord.
Sony messed up on this one. They lost their minds. These are PC prices. Why the heck that I am going to spend 800 dollars on this when I can get a PC for just 200 more or at the same price as this? Nintendo need to announce the Switch 2 so they can win the console race
I'm with you that the ps5 is overpriced but 200 more on a PC still won't get you to a ps5 pro. Maybe $1600 pc would. But the PC does way more than just videogames. Console shouldn't cost that much.
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@@goyoschivas you get get 4070's in the uk under 500quid. I seriously doubt this thing would match one of those.
@@goyoschivasI am pretty sure with 1000$ you can make a stronger pc than a pro. And a pc is far more versatile machine, so it s not even s competition.
Consoles were good for exclusives and for low prices.
In 2024 with under 1000$ you can make a very decent PC.
What is the point of a PS with little to no exclusivity? I can make a cabinet ITX PC with a wireless xbox controller...
@@goyoschivasfound a gaming laptop with a 4060 for $750. You’d be much better off buying that than a PS5 Pro
No way they think we are THAT stupid
ALSO!
The games run better on PC. Get bent Sony
Don’t forget they also raised the prices for PS5 controllers by $5
That's nuts... I just took one apart to fix stick drift. So far so good. My original ps1 controllers still work! Never had a drift or button issue. The dual sense is the best feeling controller i've ever used, but can't believe 1 year and i had to fix drift.
third price hike this year in Japan
If I was a betting man, I'd put money on the PS5 Pro not selling as well as the PS4 Pro. Maybe it will over time.
Id say it will be cancelled faster than Concord lol
It will sell because scalpers will buy it all
Next year the second wave will sell again because GTA 6 will be bundled with it most likely
Day one buy for me and it's funny looking at these food stamp gamers
@@real_Pinoy 😂
@real_Pinoy why are you getting it day one? I too am getting it day one but I know exactly what problem I am having in what game that I am hoping a more powerful console will resolve what is your reason?
I’m sticking with my PS5
So stick to 30fps games and we real gamers be playing 60fps. 😂😂😂
Me too
I have everything dude. I have PC, Xbox X, PS5 with the disc drive. Rog Ally…I could literally go on.
@@noelsilva8887You know launch PS5s have 60fps….right?
Real gamers?we are on PC. 60fps are rookie numbers @noelsilva8887
In the UK, it works out at $914.
You’re faster than Mystic lol 😂
The King of PlayStation RUclips pal!
That's what she said.
Mystic doesn’t even lift
Mystic is a clickbaiter
What we learned is sony gave a big massive middle finger to its current ps5 owners, we got promised everything they advertise for the pro and never delivered.
it'll still fall short. No $700 is going to give 100% 4k60fps in gameplay. PC players know this. With that said, I still love my OG ps5.
As soon you realize both Sony and Nintendo don't care, they just want your money. Things will start to turn right around but it's wrong they're doing this.
The OG PS5 says 8K on the box. The Pro box will probably say it too and never achieve it. 😂
It's capable of 8k.....just games using 8k don't really exist on it 😂
Welcome to the wonderful world of misleading advertising!!!😂 LoL
It'll say 9k 😆
it can run em at 8k if you want slideshow fps :)))
@@Ragnarok881 😂
16K
I don't care if it had a disc drive, $700 on a system on it's way out is crazy
The bigger insult is that splash page... $700... with no stand included. That's hilarious!
I don't stand mine up anyway.
$700 for some better backgrounds is diabolical
Modern gaming completely sucks. This really does suck.
I recently bought a ps1 and hunted down copies of all my childhood collection... boy was that fun and it is so nice holding a disc that's actually your game. I still love the new stuff, but playing the oldies is enjoyable.
I would rather pay 100$ for better, finished games ... than a new system.
It should have been 599 with a drive. 699 with no drive means buying a drive. Cost is now 800ish.
Pointless.
Yup. and the OG/slim should stop production and relist at 399 until gone.
They want us to NOT have physical copies of games because then they can move us to a subscription to have access to games, but own nothing.
£699 = $912.94 !! I will stick with my PS5 and PC.
That's the VAT. Without VAT it would be £140 cheaper. we're taxed too much
What a scam charging the same price for different currency values. Sony is crazy.
Sony taking notes from Apple. $700 with barely anything new to offer is crazy.
its like upgrading from 4060 to the 4070. Which I won't do. Bring on the Nintendo presentation next.
Everyone!!! Please don't buy it, so that it fails and they are forced to lower the price. In Europe it costs 800€ without a stand and without a drive. We have to be smart about this abuse of the consumer. Console with drive, with stand, with PS Plus ~1000€. It's unacceptable. Let's fight by not buying!!!! If they don't set a fair price, we'll have to consider switching to its competitors.
Id rather drop 1000$ on Nintendo this time around
It may sell a few units, but this is doomed without a doubt
In the UK it costs over 900 dollars when you convert it to dollars 😂
That's cos of the VAT. In the US sales tax is added at the till
Hahaha... A fool and his money... need to pay for them monies like they lost developing Concord 😂😂
Yes but your sales tax is on average 10% which is 770 dollars - over 130 dollars cheaper than it is in the UK.
@@liamhiggins9499 US also charges 70-100k pounds converted and we pay 9k per year = 27k - For education - So use that saved 50-80k on maybe 20 ps5 pros and then sunbath with the rest
I'll get it when the price drops but by then it'll be PS6 time😂
So we are paying the local equivalent here of $914 for a console without a disc drive, Sony are fucking crazy 🤬
Me trying to compare the side-by-side comparisons:
"Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture"
"They're the same picture"
I wonder how good Concord will look on that thing
I'm just gonna say from a personal perspective point of view, with the distance my couch is from my TV, I never even noticed the "distant object blurriness" that Sony was talking about, and I play everything on performance mode. Also it not having a disc drive is a hard pass at 700 USD.
I do not care about resolution, i have always played my games on lowest manageable settings just to get the best fps i can.
I would take Bloodborne 60 fps over a 4-5k resolution in a heartbeat.
Who care if Call of duty are in 4K, nobody look at the backdrops anyway. 3000 devs, coder and artist for nothing.
thats over 900 dollars for us in the UK when you do the exchange rate.
FUCKING INSANE.
Consoles have traditionally had two big benefits over PC: price and exclusives.
At $700-800, you can build a pretty good PC these days.
And in terms of exclusives, there are currently less than 20 PS5-exclusive games, 3 of which are remakes/remasters.
Don't forget almost every Sony game but Astrobot is pretty much the same thing. 1. Fight Bad Guys 2. Walk Under a log or crack in the wall. 3. Listen to characters who never shut up 4. Repeat
DREAMCASTGUY ALREADY PREORDERED FIVE.
He is the type of guy that will scalp 4 of them at $1500 a piece.
Im getting as many as I can
Maybe who knows but at the moment even he is speechless, Just watched his vid.
Nah, Id rather buy a PS3 for myself instead. I miss that gen.
Trully, with the ps3 each passing year offered at least a couple of gems. Same for the 360 and the ps2 years. Good times
PS2 and PS3 were Sony best games years... 😢
@Jep-f9t @@Marmite101I was mostly a last gen kid and grew up with the PS2 but I have fond memories of playing PS3/360/Wii at friends houses. Wii sports with cousins. Also my best friend introduced me to halo reach. I did get a PS3 and 360 but it was almost when PS4 released and two or three years after, I ended up selling them since I wanted a PC so I miss them now lol. I did find a cheap 360 though.
Sony pulled this with the ps3($600 at launch), since you don't remember. It's why nobody bought it until the 2010's.
Sony revisiting their early-life Villain arc.
Nintendo was right to stiff them on that deal way back when...
Bro Nintendo created there worst enemy
We're quickly going full circle where Nintendo will be 90% of the console market.
PS3: 599
PS5 Pro: Hold my beer!
dude i just found a ps3 on the street today .. has ylod but im see if i can fix it type entertain
Ja ja yep
800 euro in Europe. And 950 total if you include a vertical stand and Disc drive. No thanks Sony !
So, not only you're removing an option from us but you're also charging €800 for it!!! Essential!!!
2 options cuz mine came with a stand. Really crazy
Does Sony not remember what happened when they first revealed the Ps3 with their prices........🤨😵💫🥴
Kind of makes sense why Xbox didn't bother with a mud gen refresh. It's really unnecessary.
Can’t wait to see the Ponies jump through hoops defending this one 😂😂😂
Nah, a lot of them are cooking sony
Reforge is celebrating this...
Ridge Raaaccerrr ... P$3 all over again 🤣🤣🤣
Even those guys are mad lmao. But they'll start coping soon enough
like how you defend 30fps for redfall?
700 dollars is 635 euros but Sony decided to sell it in EU at 800 euros WITHOUT disc drive.
The upgrade is there but it's the strict minimum, 4K60 was expected on the vanilla PS5 and paying 350 bucks more just to get 60 fps is lame.
They could push more of 120 fps in perfomance mode instead of marketing the fidelity mode.
Dear God, it's like Microsoft and Sony doing their best to one-up each other on how to scare customers away the quickest.
I don’t even use my ps5 to its full ability now I’m still playing in 1080
800 eur in Europe is the biggest insult here
Where I live it's 900 euros
This is a marketing tactic by Sony… if you want to know how read on:
Sony doesn’t want to lower the price of the PlayStation 5.
So what they’ve done is released a different version at a much higher price point.
If you look at what you get for the disc-less, the disc version, and now the pro version without a disc drive, the disc version now looks like the best deal.
In marketing, we call this price anchoring.
And this is how Sony can make the disc version of the PlayStation 5 look way more attractive to new buyers.
For current owners who upgrade to the pro version, I assure you there is enough profit built into the price to make it worth it.
The R&D cost required for this will not be hard to recoup in the profit made for every provers sold.
And if Sony did lower the price by $100, or even $50 this holiday - the pro version still makes them all look very attractive.
The pro version is released solely for price anchoring.
I feel like this is exactly what they are doing. However as someone who doesn't own a ps5 but was looking forward to the price drop, this puts me off of PS in general and into furthering my knowledge of PC. Thankfully I started a cybersecurity and network administration course last year taht taught me the basics of computers so I'm not starting from scratch but I think the time investment into learning tech will be much more valuable than donating money to a greedy company that has absolutely abhorrent customer service.
This is Apple Logic
Most of the RnD have already been done and the components for the hardware already sourced. Much thanks to the Vanilla PS5
So now they are going to squeeze the customer out of every penny they can. Increase the price on the consoles, controllers, stand, diskdrives, and not to forget incoming price hikes on games and subscriptions. It's a shame i have always liked Sony, but i guess that is about to change.
And where are the games to have this prixe anchoring? I meqn people are not buying Rebirth and waiting for the PC version.
Sony has done this to gamers for years. Multitaps, 8mb memory cards, horizontal and vertical stands. I’m surprised they decided to include the controller and charge cable for it.
It MIGHT have been feasible for $700 with a disc drive. No way I'm paying that for digital only.
Naw 700 for all the things you can get on a regular ps5 is a scam fr
No it’s not. There isn’t a substantial upgrade from the base PS5. So you would be paying $200 more for little improvement. At most $550.
@@michaelvangelista335 it should ve 600€ with the disk drive.
@@M.N.9 We want to keep prices low and Sony to be competitive with their competitors. I mean Sony does not know what Xbox will be doing, neither do we, so why commit to a price tag that can brackfire if Xbox releases their “Pro” model? They just gave them the opening to price their console much lower than the PS5 Pro by a substantial margin. Xbox should most definitely capitalize on this moment. 600€ = $660, so to us in the US I think that’s still too much. I stand by the $550 price tag for the US. That would be 498.80€ for you guys in Europe.
@@michaelvangelista335 ikr, but i am saying, that ps5 pro is the digital one, if the digital one should be 550$ for a good price, then the disk one could be 600$
When I saw they quietly raised the price of the controller yesterday... I knew Sony was going to Sony with the pro
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I’m a Sony fan , but I feel there’s no need to purchase something that doesn’t make sense
Ryzen 5 5500, radeon 7700xt, and all the supporting parts = 780USD and can do everything a 700$ ps5 pro can do and more.
Welcome to the future kids.
Pos stop, I don't have a PS but I think it should be now at least 4070 performance.
Still no disc drive for physical games either lol so that's not an option for me at all.
@@coffee7180not even close. PS Gpu is closer to GTX 3070 buddy
I am a mainly a pc gamer but ps5 and consoles are more then their specs. The optimizations and unified hardware let the hardware punch far above its specs. I think a 5800x3d and a 6800 is more the baseline ps5 experience with the pro seemingly adding ray tracing to the 4070 super-4070ti level.
I was going to purchase a ps5 this year but wanted to wait for the pro. So I bought a steam deck to hold me over. Now I find the steam deck was a far better investment than purchasing a PS5 Pro. At most I’ll get a PS5 slim now. With a cd driver
good answer. I love my ps5 OG on 4k tv, feel no need to upgrade until ps6. Saying all this while having a monster PC too. Playing at 120 fps on PC doesn't make me feel like a $500 ps5 should be equal lol
The pro version will still likely not be solid 4k 60 for GTA VI
To be honest i dont think any rig is gonna have a solid 4k 60 for that monster of a game.
Definitely not. It won't even for games out now. It'll improve, but 100% 4k60fps is a lot more than $700 in PC land.
This has the same energy of Sega announcing the Saturn immediately after the 32X.
At least the Saturn is a good console and later became cheaper.