@@TheConsoleFreak most playstation exclusives are on pc at this point, or they're going to be soon. ghost of tsushima, god of war, spiderman, ratchet and clank, uncharted, last of us, horizon, those are all on pc at this point with more coming
PC’s have gone up in price too lol, there’s still the gap. Every gen when new consoles come out they destroy bang for buck, but eventually pc’s catch up and then back to a new console gen.
Maybe that's the idea. Games keep coming over to PC anyway. There isn't really any such thing as an exclusive anymore. Consoles just aren't what they used to be.
PlayStation is in the position they are in because of there selves now they are trying to make up for there own failures by overcharging on there hardware and they are laughing because people are so stupid they buy the overpriced hardware 😂😂😂😂 PC and Xbox is winning. PlayStation is getting left behind and it's there own faults and the fault of the customer for being ponies and not seeing what's happening.
the real red flag here is they low key charging $700 for the pro so they can charge $800+ for ps6. Going right over everyone's head ☠ right now you're paying $700+ for a console with a scarcity of games. ill stick to my base ps4 :) spiderman and wwz aftermath look amazing on there
The 60GB PS3 launch model is almost $1K adjusted for inflation. Then a bunch of idiots decided to pay scalpers for PS5s for over a year. Considering most people are paying 50-100% more for groceries this year, this price should not be a shock. The bigger issue is that the PS5 'Pro' is not a great leap like the PS4 Pro was. Nobody NEEDS this, but it will still sell like crazy. Gamers do this to themselves every time.
The price upgrade is even worse over here in europe. The PS5 Digital costs €400 at start. The PS5 Pro, with has no disc drive either costs €800. The double the price for mid season upgrade. So it's official, Sony executives have gone insane.
$700 is a reasonable price, dumb people complaining. 800 euros on the other hand... what is it like 880 bucks with an average income less than in US, I just don't see the logic behind it.
Yeah, also this doesn't include disk drive or support stand which are really essential. So throw another 100 to that price tag. Over here in the uk the complete console will cost around £1,000. Which is totally ridiculous. I honestly hope very few people buy it.
It's official, with two wars going on and the WEF agenda being implemented as some still think there's any democracy left in the world, seems everybody has gone insane.
@@eXclurelI don't know mate, I'm very happy with my 3060, i can play pretty much everything at a very good performance (I'm a 1920*1080 player tho so that may be different from you)
what game cant run on a rtx 3060 right now ? It runs Everything. In janury/February the next 5000er come out. Then u buy new, since prices will fall, ur welcome ;)
$250 more from Digital PS5 to Digital PS5 Pro and $280 more from PS5 Disc to PS5 Pro with Disk Add on which is crazy because its not worth it when it comes to Power and Price performance
@@SmartAss4123Concord! 😂 plus the helldivers 2 problem with Playstation account requirement. I don't care about the stand. I'd keep it horizontal anyway in case they still haven't fixed the leaking liquid metal when in vertical. But no disc drive for the "pro" all bells and whistles version?
At the current exchange rate 920€ is a little over 1000 USD. What were they smoking, when making those prices?! Oh yeah, and it does not come with a stand, because that is "sold separately"... Sony, just tell us that you hate Europe without telling us that you hate Europe.
@@ArielCleirigh That is some bs and you know it. The high end iPhones start at a high price, but are more versatile devices than the PS5 Pro. PS5 is just for gaming, iPhones can do more than just game. How often do you use your phone in a day and how often a console? At only a marginal graphics quality increase with a price that high? Sorry, but I own a high end PC and a base PS5. I will upgrade my PC for 1.5k USD and get better performance than giving Sony any more of my money. The price to performance gain over a PS5 base model is way off. You seem just numb to price changes, because you do not bother checking if something is worth the money you are spending or not.
I have an Xbox Series X, but I am not partial to any platform. I think that 1059 AUD is an absolutely insane price to play for playing games. Even the 700-800 for the PS5 and Series X felt really expensive to me. Even for games like GTA I would rather save up and get a PS6 or the next Xbox rather than blow my money on a slightly better version of the same console which can do essentially exactly what we expected from the PS5 in the first place
This comment should have way, waaaay more likes. Maybe the PS5 shouldn't have been backwards compatible so they could have leaned even more heavily into charging for all the same games again.
Your right.only games worth playing are sequels and remakes. There haven't released one game the defines this console generation. Everything has been pretty much done at this point.
I'm so irritated with the game industry. The industry has to face the fact they have utterly FAILED at Game Creation! I don't mean to be harsh I just care about games. I mean look at game libraries of previous gens? Now look at current gen games or lack there of & tell me this is acceptable & that they should release a new console? We cannot accept the sheer lack of games and the loss of a bunch of different game genres. I just really hope we will eventually see a complete rejuvenation of the video game industry. When we had a vast array of any sorta game genre you can think of. 2D, 2.5D, 3D, low poly PS1 style, 2d animation style, cell shaded, you name it. Anything to save us from this drought of creativity within video games. indie games are creative BUT almost all of the indie games are only available on Steam, on a gaming PC. So it doesn't help the console situation at all because most are not available on consoles...
I'm not sure if my mathing is mathing But if the original Playstation 5 is 10.28 Terra flops, then a 45% increase would be 14.409 Terra flops..... That is only two more terra flops, then the xbox series x and Think about this when you're walking into gamestop Playstation 5 pro $699.99 Disk drive $79.99 Vertical stand because that's not included either $29.99 = $809.97 Plus 8% sales tax( Maybe more dependent on your state)= $874.76, And that's not including any single game, yet So you add two games, at 69.99 ×2 = $140 That brings it up to $1025.96 And sony Knows, people will pay this price because they were paying up $1000 For the original playstation 5 When scalpers were selling them
Where’s the games again? I already own a PS5, PC, a Switch, and Xbox Series X. Sony needs to give a reason buy their platform. Because if you don’t have exclusives then what’s the point?
@@Shadowclaw25gta ain’t gonna be exclusive, and gta is trash. Can’t wait to hear people bisch about more shark cards while still happily consuming them 😂😂
The digital consoles are not worth it when a manufacturer decides to brick the device on purpose when a newer console comes out and the new console is the main focus because it's making them money. The digital consoles are required to be connected to the internet and thru software updates the devices can be bricked intentionally when something new comes out. I would not be surprised if the digital consoles end up being the like the spotify car thing. There is no law against planned obsolescence and force arbitration since force arbitration can be included in the terms and conditions of the digital consoles like it's already happening with the roku devices. The digital consoles are the equivalent of tv streaming devices that are dedicated to mainly playing video games in a console form factor with the hardware specs of a console. For example, if both sony and microsoft decided that they want to enter the streaming tv boxes like it is with google with the chrome cast and apple with there apple tv device. For instance, the playstation device would be the playstation tv and the xbox would be called the xbox tv. There is a possibility that both the playstation and xbox will end up being a glorified version of the smart tv devices with hardware that is more powerful and more storage than there smart tv counterparts.
No need to "wait"... even when the PS6 comes around 2028 it will run 2 years exklusive games for sure after the release and other games for maybe 4+ years (like PS5 did and it is getting new games in 2024+).
A 7700xt PC is around 800 and more powerful than the pro, more games, more features and customization. Plus in a year or two or however long you can upgrade to next gen GPU with even better performance for 4-500. PC will always beat consoles, period. If a series S held back the series X so will the PS5 non pro hold back the pro. If it doesn’t it PROVES! it was lazy devs.
You could also go all new parts with this build, downgrade the cpu so its a 5600/7700xt build and its still not at 850 all said and done. This is bad value from Sony. 600 is what they should have did instead
Still dont have a PS5. Probably gonna skip it. GTA6 wont save it. If i can spend $800+ on a PS5, i'm sure I'll have a much better deal if i just saved another $300 to get a pc set up.
You don’t have to respond but I just wanted to tell you that if you check at your nearest pawnshop and see what they got as for PS5 my pawnshop guy said they have PS5 starting at $400 I know it probably won’t change your mind but i just wanted to tell you anyway
In the Uk, it’s £700 which is over 900$ in the U.S, Sony thinks I’m crazy! I’m going with the PS5 Slim, I’m not a hardcore gamer so 60fps on my TV is completely fine! That’s what most people have anyway!
Looks like Apple is not the only one that's been on a recent downfall goddamn. What happened to these companies and lack of technological innovations and advances. I'll just save the money I could be wasting on this for a PS6
$700 plus another $80 for the disc drive then THEY upped the price of the ps5 controllers by $5 yesterday... Yk the day before the ps5 pro was announced.
I genuinely think it's a great and needed technical upgrade. This is on AMD for being behind the curve with the original PS5 GPU features. The AI upscaling is HUGE. If you've ever used DLSS and compared it to FSR the difference is night and day. PSSSR is going to make games look incredible on a gaming monitor. But yeah, it's not for most people and that's okay.
I'm tempted to get this. I'm hoping all the pissing and moaning in the comments deters the scalpers from buying them all up so they can be readily available when I get the funds to buy this.
I don’t have any game discs I was a casual gamer and I would like to get into it with the higher tech so if you someone like that and have the money just get it.
Wait, you're telling me that Sony is making another terable business decision in their long line of terable business decision. I'm shock. Shock I said. That people are surprised. 😂😂😂
Is it worth it? It's $965 in Canada plus tax. It's over a $1000 for that thing. Why would you spend that money? Just buy yourself a gaming laptop or pc. Everybody, keep your ps five and your playstation.Four
@@javiersoberanisramos808no it will run 40fps 120hrz mode with 45% faster gpu alone will make it feel more smooth. With better lighting and raytracing.
I'm curious what Sony will do with all the backlash. Maybe they will work to include the disc drive for the $700 price and make disc-less $650? I doubt it, but never know.
6:39 "This feature MAY stabilze OR improve the performance of SUPPORTED PS4 and PS5 games." Sorry , but for that price, non-commital verbage doesn't cut it. They need to say WILL, AND, and ALL; not MAY, OR, and SUPPORTED. Let these consoles sit on the shelves and rot.
tbh many games like Jedi Survivor, Cyberpunk and Immortals of Aveum look absolutely terrible at 60 fps on ps5 so im actually really looking forward to this. Especially PSSR can fix this big problem modern games have due to FSR basically destroying image quality
Dont have a ps5 at the moment. Sold last one cuz I didnt have time for it anymore. Will buy this. Dont use discs anyways and for a PC with similar specs it would cost more. 1TB SSD samsung is like 80 bucks anyways
It's crazy how much we shell out for our phones just to scroll through social media. I'd totally spend more on a console if it had better GPUs. I’d skimp on my phone to get an awesome console. Too bad that’s not happening, so I’m stuck with a huge PC.
The problem is mostly down to developers not adding Graphics options in their games on console. From what I've gathered, the situation is getting better, but not as standardised as on PC.
Good points made. I had a phat and slim. Sold the slim but kept the ssd, stand, games, and controller, knowing the pro was coming. I will STILL have to buy the disc drive for my games, which means $850 after taxes... I'm an adult homeowner with a career and no kids, and I am telling you that they're insane.
I've been one to keep up with the times for years, but now, since I'm getting older, I realize it's all about the fun in Video Games! I have all the consoles. I still games on on my PS4 and my 360. I love going to Arcades, and playing classics! I rather stock my Game Room with arcade cabinets before getting the PRO.
This is the problem! Console historical inexpensive pricing has changed my friends. As consoles reach PC performance and standards, they will also automatically cost more to PC standards. $699 for the upgrade the Pro gives you is totally justifiable. To build a PC like the PS5 Pro would probably cost you more, not to mention the parts as well. If you wanted to upgrade, it would cost you hundreds of dollars, too. People need to get over the rising cost of consoles and accept that if you want games to run close to or as PC performance well, then you have to pay. If not, stay with what you currently have, PS5 or Series X, and don't complain. I game on an LG G1 Oled 65-inch TV. The Pro makes sense to me. Gaming on this TV with the Pro will look & feel ridiculously awesome. I welcome the Fidelity boost and performance without having to sacrifice one over the other.
Iv got my 1200 series ps5 last Christmas and its staying for 5 years plus with me, its so good it got me back into gaming, i mainly play HLL and gt7 and both games are beautiful and dont need anything else
Everyone acting like the $800 (CAD) price point was unexpected and I just dont get it. This is exactly what I was expecting... a marginally better device with no disk drive at the original selling point of the PS5. This is not for existing players to upgrade to... this is for new players coming into the/ upgrading ps console.
I am unfollowing a lot of gibberish youtubers after this headlines like "ps5 is super cheap". Thank you for being honest and on point instead of comparing apples and oranges by telling go build pc instead like some knuckleheads say. I can not create a presentation for work or school on ps5 pro. It will get old as fast as old gens before you even know it. Not worth it PERIOD. Some obtuse people forget one point that you pointed out: upgrade your tv that runs at 120 fps. Not only good but realistic points. You will pay much more per enhancement or upgrade. Not worth it. Enjoyed watching it.
Sony can keep it. No stand, no disc drive and significantly more money. Might as well call this the PS5 Elitist. You need the Screen to match its output. Do they not see what's happening in the market? I didn't need the ps4 PRO, I don't need this. If I had money to burn, I might, just cuz I'd have money to burn. Getting close to just going to PC connected to my tv with a wireless controller. Cheaper in the long run...
Xbox is in a poor situation but even with the PS5 pro's outrageous price it will still sell well people will buy it, Xbox can't come out with a pro as no one is going to buy it, they've tarnished their brand, they've more or less stopped are hardly making exclusives anymore as gamepass has ruined their business as it provides too much value and no real incentive to buy games on the system and seems like they will be going 3rd party/a publisher I doubt they'll make another console. And with no direct competition ofc Sony would price the highest amount they could plus they most likely saw how many people were willing to pay the scalper prices for their product so thought why not price it that way regardless.
Honestly, I think everyone can agree that with what you’re getting out of what you pay for, you’re not going to be getting your money's worth getting a PlayStation five Pro. You don’t even get a stand when you buy a PlayStation five Pro because it’s got the width of the PlayStation five slim and the height of the original OG PlayStation five. So it’s taller and just as thin as the PlayStation five slim, so it’s bound to tip over at some point, and I think most people would want to decrease the chance of your system flopping over by getting a stand for it unless you have a couple bookshelf stands that you could put on each side to keep it from falling over. Plus, the big three just doesn’t seem like it’s going to be that much of a bigger upgrade. Now yes, I will admit that it is definitely an upgrade that is decently better than what we have on the PlayStation five and the PlayStation five slim. But I don’t think the big three being the big part of what the upgrades are about for the PlayStation five Pro justifies that three to $400 increase to what the PlayStation five and PlayStation five slim models cost. I can maybe see 100. Maybe $160 would be pushing it, but at max $160 to buy the PlayStation five Pro, but I wouldn’t say anything more you should pay for to get a PlayStation five Pro unless for some reason you have an amount of income to where you can dispose of that kind of money. Or if you happen to have the money laying around somewhere and you don’t have a PlayStation five of some kind yet, yeah, I would say this is obviously the most powerful version of a game console so far, so you would want to play GTA six or other PlayStation five games that come out. But if you don’t have the money laying around, or even if you do still have the money laying around and you have a PlayStation five or a PlayStation five slim, I think you are still good enough and it’s not really needing an upgrade quite yet. Maybe when the PlayStation six comes out, but as of now, if you have one of the first two models, I think you’re OK and don’t necessarily absolutely need the upgrade. Performance-wise, it does just fine with every PlayStation game available on Fidelity and performance mode. And I personally think that it’s going to run GTA six just fine, obviously not as well as the PS five pro, but I do think that the PS five and PS five slim are going to do a phenomenal job still. Even without the big three, I still think it’s going to do a phenomenal job at running GTA six. So any consumer, just save your money for a PS six or PS six slim if you want to get the PS six cheaper. That way, hopefully, the PS six is going to have even bigger upgrades than the PS five pro. I feel like at that point you will be getting your money's worth, at least hopefully, if Sony doesn’t keep going downhill with this big stab in the back they did with the PS five Pro. Just cross your fingers and hold out hope; hopefully, things get better.
For a similar price you could get a PC that while less powerful would still be competent enough to be more appealing given the massive game library, mods, and emulators by comparison, especially if you loaded it up with SteamOS or ChimeraOS to mimic a game console.
I was looking forward to finally upgrade from my PS4 Pro, stepping into PS5 with full power. I will probably still do it but I was hoping for more, pretty disappointing to see no drive and 2tb which is upgradable anyway.
Dang, both of your channels had videos about the PS5 pro within 3 hours of the announcement. Can't miss the hype train for that precious precious revenue lol.
Well, it’s more important to call,text, email,work,video call family, friends, boss, etc. than to play a system that maybe looks a bit better on some games.
After bein a console gamer my entire life since the SNES, I’ve gone full PC this generation after owning a PS5. This is the closest consoles have ever gotten to PC in performance but also in price and it continues to go up. With the lack of new AAA games and many of them going to PC anyway, it just made more sense to spend more for a PC that will outlast this console bc the games get cheaper, free online, vastly superior performance, and importantly to me never having to worry about backwards compatibility in the future bc I know my games will always be accessible down the line regardless of whether I upgrade my PC. The one thing console has going for aside from ease of use is price and it’s gotten too expensive to game on console even if it’s less upfront. I refuse to pay to play online yearly and games get way cheaper on PC over time
Sure, it's nice to have a ssd that can hold more than 4 games. I feel base ps5 should've been able to do 4k 60fps, so that's a must. But $700 is too much, they won't be getting a bunch of sales. And no disk drive? That's a joke! $600, or maybe $650 with a disk drive. Im all about getting a new console to run games at peak capability, but $700 is a hard sell.
Do you remember when everybody bullied Sony to turn in the PS4 Pro exorbitant price down to a reasonable one? I think we need to do that as a community again to the PS five and knock it down from 700 to reasonable 500.
I guess why is this a bad thing? They're giving the consumer options in between traditional console gaming and PC gaming. The PS5 isn't going anywhere. You all greatly under estimate how much people are willing to spend to get the best console gaming experience. I know plenty of late 30's to mid 50's gamers with money that will buy this without batting an eye and plug it into their oleds. Gamers aren't all 12-18 year olds anymore, times have changed. The disc and stand thing are annoying, no doubt.
I've been waiting for this since PS5 launched (I never bought the OG PS5) and I don't think I'm buying it. It's $925 in Canada. PS4 was $399. They've put absolutely zero effort into exciting NEW IPs and taken the safe boring greedy Marvel approach of sequels and nothing but sequels. Spiderman sequels, God of War sequels, Horizon sequels, and to be honest, I'm not a big fan of any of those games. I want something totally new but Sony has aimed their games at the lowest common denominator and priced their hardware out of almost everyones price range. They can't even throw in a disc drive. This is a greedy directionless company that deserves to lose.
@@wicho80well, that pc can run ps games, Xbox games, pc games, old games, new games, emulators, can also be used to work, and won't be needing an upgrade in a ton of years, plus, games on pc are cheaper, epic games literally gift us games every week, online is free... Yeah, it's totally worth it.
@@wicho80That 4090 is by itself $1500-$2000, so the rest is atleast another $1000, so $2500-$3000 or more is worth it? Heck no, because with some games nowadays even that 4090 has a hell of a time just doing 4k 60fps. So yep that's worth it for that much. lol
@@wicho80yes bc it’s 4x better than this whole damn console if not more. That pc will be high end for 5 years minimum. That’s not including how long u can use it for. This is a waste of money period bc they are going to lie to u like they did with the ps5 and xsx so u will never really get the full performance of this console like u would with the 4090 period. I have a rtx 4090 with a 7800x3d, 32GB of ram and 2 ssd for about 2800 at the time I got it. Console are supposed to be cheap not pc pricing bc u might as well spend the other 100 to get a Ight pc that u can do more with in the future
@@kamishiro5 Won't be needed to upgrade in a ton of years?! C'mon! Let's be honest... in five years you'll need to upgrade the GPU of your PC to run AAA games and you'll spend 1500 dlls, but hey! you will be able to run the oldies games and emulators (which I can do it in a series S). Yeah totally worth it XD
Not to mention if you want to get the true pro experience you actually have to pay 810 dollars since the fucking stand and disk drive are sold separately Xbox it's time to announce a price drop for the series x and announce the handheld yall been working on
@Twiz301 eh that might be a bit to far. Japan is the land of Nintendo and PlayStation. Apparently Xbox had a huge surge of interest due to price increases but there are so few people there even a 100% increase isn't super impressive Xbox needs to capitalize on this major L though and shove it in our faces why we should be playing on their platform and not playstation
I agree, for the specs I could see why $700 but if a competitor is really making moves it may force them to offer a 1tb model with AT LEAST the stand all for $600
I think a lot of that price is down to the 2TB SSD. The Series X at 2 TB is pushing $600 so I think it's definitely possible that the PS5s faster SSD and overall setup is very expensive.
Consoles have just become more locked down PC's, and all the Dev's need to do is add graphics sliders in games just like they already do on PC, a mode that detects you're running the PS5 Pro, and applies the correct settings, but having said that $700 is too dang expensive in my book for a console that can't do 1/2 of what a PC can do at 1/2 the cost if you're not talking about RAW graphics power.
ahahahahah , damn true shit ! If console players would know how terrible the settings in games are made when devs fix them. I never play with the Proposed best settings on pc i can always increase by 10-30fps without loss of Quality ;>
Ahhh ha ha ha, that's not how game development works my friend. You think game studios make a different version for every CPU or GPU in PCs? The differences are minimal and easy typically. Hardware specific memory leaks can be a thing but that's mostly do to garbage code in the first place.
@@frogslayer4849 According to steam hardware charts most gamers are using 3 years or older GPUs with the 1060 being the most used worldwide. And all I been hearing the last 4 years is how the series s is holding back games. But somehow making games that take full advantage of the ps5 pro while also being able to play on ps5 isn’t an issue. Come on now. No games are gonna take advantage of that power. This gen has been stale. They would have to start a game today and it wouldn’t release till ps6 releases. The ps5 pro is pointless. We don’t even get games taking full advantage of series x and ps5 today. Where are all the 4k 120hz releases at? Only a handful of games barely hitting 60fps at 4k today. You think we gonna get 120hz at 4k this gen? Not likely at all. First party Sony and Ms titles are releasing today at 4k 30fps. Don’t get me started on 8k. We have been promised that for the last 5 years. Nothing has released at 8k. 99% of consumers don’t even have a monitor or tv that can do 8k
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If the consoles that were supposed to be the cheaper alternative to PC start costing as much as PCs, there is no point in buying a console.
Convenience
what about Console Exclusives games?
@@TheConsoleFreak most playstation exclusives are on pc at this point, or they're going to be soon. ghost of tsushima, god of war, spiderman, ratchet and clank, uncharted, last of us, horizon, those are all on pc at this point with more coming
PC’s have gone up in price too lol, there’s still the gap.
Every gen when new consoles come out they destroy bang for buck, but eventually pc’s catch up and then back to a new console gen.
Maybe that's the idea. Games keep coming over to PC anyway. There isn't really any such thing as an exclusive anymore. Consoles just aren't what they used to be.
Sony: "Look at me, Im the scalper now"
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700 dollars for a diskless console and they don’t even include a stand Sony have lost their minds
@@bblueangel2"Have no Disc Drive" So can't play physical copy without buying disc drive separately
You're the high one here.@@bblueangel2
@@bblueangel2yup buy a disk then buy a disc drive 😂
I'm from Australia it's $1200 here
PlayStation is in the position they are in because of there selves now they are trying to make up for there own failures by overcharging on there hardware and they are laughing because people are so stupid they buy the overpriced hardware 😂😂😂😂 PC and Xbox is winning. PlayStation is getting left behind and it's there own faults and the fault of the customer for being ponies and not seeing what's happening.
PS6 in 2030 for $1,599. Controller not included
case not included...
no SSD
Console included (depending on availability)
No power cord.
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The three lines on the PlayStation 5 Pro console represents the lines of cocaine. The developers of this monstrosity did before they released it.
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Now that's funny!
the real red flag here is they low key charging $700 for the pro so they can charge $800+ for ps6. Going right over everyone's head ☠ right now you're paying $700+ for a console with a scarcity of games. ill stick to my base ps4 :) spiderman and wwz aftermath look amazing on there
Inflation, my friend. Inflation is a scary thing.
Ya I’ve been thinking that. It’s guna be 1000 straight up
@@leonardkim8631 inflation is a propaganda term people throw around to justify greed and bad business management
All hail my mighty pc with ryzen 7950x rtx 4090 and 64 gigs of ram. This ps 5 pro can't lick it's boots.
The 60GB PS3 launch model is almost $1K adjusted for inflation. Then a bunch of idiots decided to pay scalpers for PS5s for over a year. Considering most people are paying 50-100% more for groceries this year, this price should not be a shock.
The bigger issue is that the PS5 'Pro' is not a great leap like the PS4 Pro was. Nobody NEEDS this, but it will still sell like crazy. Gamers do this to themselves every time.
The price upgrade is even worse over here in europe. The PS5 Digital costs €400 at start. The PS5 Pro, with has no disc drive either costs €800. The double the price for mid season upgrade. So it's official, Sony executives have gone insane.
And it's not even mid season technically it's much closer to end of the life cycle at this point
$700 is a reasonable price, dumb people complaining. 800 euros on the other hand... what is it like 880 bucks with an average income less than in US, I just don't see the logic behind it.
Yeah, also this doesn't include disk drive or support stand which are really essential.
So throw another 100 to that price tag.
Over here in the uk the complete console will cost around £1,000. Which is totally ridiculous.
I honestly hope very few people buy it.
The PS5 Pro is a great console but it is bring back the PS3 days I’m waiting for the PS6 and maybe the PS4 days will be back
It's official, with two wars going on and the WEF agenda being implemented as some still think there's any democracy left in the world, seems everybody has gone insane.
For that price? Not even a tiny bit considering what they removed, and what the gains are. I'm sticking to my base consoles still.
What did they remove?
@DayBlueberry-F disk drive, and you don't even the shitty stand. That's how desperate playstation is to get every dollar of us
That's why I can't wait for the teardown
If you Can afford it why not honestly if you're in the spot currently where you have a stable relationship with money why not splurge
@@scubajoe3321 because this isn't splurging. Its a rip off
That 4070 is looking even more tempting now to upgrade from my 3060
I upgraded from a 3060 to 4070 Super. The upgrade is so noticeable it's absolutely worth spending that amount of money.
@@eXclurelI don't know mate, I'm very happy with my 3060, i can play pretty much everything at a very good performance (I'm a 1920*1080 player tho so that may be different from you)
@jsostick I have a 3060 but play 1440p I might buy a 4070 in December tho still thinking about it tho 🤔.
@@thunderone9743 I do play 1440p dlss is a life saver to be fair
what game cant run on a rtx 3060 right now ? It runs Everything. In janury/February the next 5000er come out.
Then u buy new, since prices will fall, ur welcome ;)
Big L. Upgrade graphics (barely) and remove the disc drive… Charge $200 more… and an extra $80 if you want the disc drive..
$250 more from Digital PS5 to Digital PS5 Pro and $280 more from PS5 Disc to PS5 Pro with Disk Add on which is crazy because its not worth it when it comes to Power and Price performance
How about that stand tho!!! Lol a Pro model without anything Pro included!!! Lol😅
Yeah its not even 200$ more, its 300$ from the digital only release
You people are literally stupid, like actually it's like you don't listen to anything being said. It's not just a graphics upgrade.
It's like 150-200 for the disc drive
"Terrafarts per megashit" is objectively funny
You know Sony executives and marketing are watching all of these PS5 Pro videos on RUclips and I hope they are pooping their pants right now.
Delusional lvl 12/10.
They will sell it, people cry and 1min later they order it ;)
@@Shadowclaw25 They said the same thing about the current woke games curently crashing, burning and sinking studios and devs 😂
@@Shadowclaw25 Nah, it won't.
@@SmartAss4123Concord! 😂 plus the helldivers 2 problem with Playstation account requirement. I don't care about the stand. I'd keep it horizontal anyway in case they still haven't fixed the leaking liquid metal when in vertical. But no disc drive for the "pro" all bells and whistles version?
They called the PS5 super ugly and it sold like hotcakes.
The console starts at 799€ in europe, , and the disc drive is at 120€ here, that's a disgrace
At the current exchange rate 920€ is a little over 1000 USD. What were they smoking, when making those prices?! Oh yeah, and it does not come with a stand, because that is "sold separately"... Sony, just tell us that you hate Europe without telling us that you hate Europe.
Again Nobody complain for $1000 iPhone Only broke or poor people.
@@ArielCleirigh That is some bs and you know it. The high end iPhones start at a high price, but are more versatile devices than the PS5 Pro. PS5 is just for gaming, iPhones can do more than just game. How often do you use your phone in a day and how often a console? At only a marginal graphics quality increase with a price that high? Sorry, but I own a high end PC and a base PS5. I will upgrade my PC for 1.5k USD and get better performance than giving Sony any more of my money. The price to performance gain over a PS5 base model is way off. You seem just numb to price changes, because you do not bother checking if something is worth the money you are spending or not.
@@ArielCleirigh lmao lots of people complain about apple products prices. Only Apple fan boys think it's okay
Our concord tax 😂
I have an Xbox Series X, but I am not partial to any platform. I think that 1059 AUD is an absolutely insane price to play for playing games. Even the 700-800 for the PS5 and Series X felt really expensive to me. Even for games like GTA I would rather save up and get a PS6 or the next Xbox rather than blow my money on a slightly better version of the same console which can do essentially exactly what we expected from the PS5 in the first place
Same. I have an series x and gamepass. I'm satisfied for now. Might get a ps5 pro if gta6 will run 60fps or higher.
700 bucks no stand no disc drive lmfao
Relax 700 is not much these days bud.
@@street58cars if you're rich sure but In todays economy, it's a lot
@@street58carsah so you’re paying for us then? Good!
and you still have to pay tax AND online access fee
2tb hard drive is $170. So ps5 499 plus 170 is 670
Sony knows they can charge $700 because they know you have a lot of money saved up since you haven't had to use it buying any games for their console.
This comment should have way, waaaay more likes. Maybe the PS5 shouldn't have been backwards compatible so they could have leaned even more heavily into charging for all the same games again.
Your right.only games worth playing are sequels and remakes. There haven't released one game the defines this console generation. Everything has been pretty much done at this point.
Probably my last gen as a gamer , dont like where they are heading with this. Its been awesome, lets enjoy while it lasts.
This should go without saying, but don’t forget you also need a TV that will actually let you enjoy the added performance.
I'm so irritated with the game industry. The industry has to face the fact they have utterly FAILED at Game Creation! I don't mean to be harsh I just care about games. I mean look at game libraries of previous gens? Now look at current gen games or lack there of & tell me this is acceptable & that they should release a new console? We cannot accept the sheer lack of games and the loss of a bunch of different game genres.
I just really hope we will eventually see a complete rejuvenation of the video game industry. When we had a vast array of any sorta game genre you can think of. 2D, 2.5D, 3D, low poly PS1 style, 2d animation style, cell shaded, you name it. Anything to save us from this drought of creativity within video games. indie games are creative BUT almost all of the indie games are only available on Steam, on a gaming PC. So it doesn't help the console situation at all because most are not available on consoles...
all new developers who born after 1980 lack of creativity.. this probably due to eating too many processed food and screwed their brains
I'm not sure if my mathing is mathing But if the original Playstation 5 is 10.28 Terra flops, then a 45% increase would be 14.409 Terra flops..... That is only two more terra flops, then the xbox series x and Think about this when you're walking into gamestop Playstation 5 pro $699.99 Disk drive $79.99 Vertical stand because that's not included either $29.99 = $809.97 Plus 8% sales tax( Maybe more dependent on your state)= $874.76, And that's not including any single game, yet So you add two games, at 69.99 ×2 = $140 That brings it up to $1025.96 And sony Knows, people will pay this price because they were paying up $1000 For the original playstation 5 When scalpers were selling them
$1000 Canadian 😅 and some change yikes
Teraflops don't matter
Well the upscaling should create a bigger game if it's as good as the dlss. Also alot of people have already converted to digital only
Nah , SCALPERS are the reason the 5 Pro is 699...
They bought up all the stock in 2020 making Sony think it was regular consumers.
Even worse in the UK £700 + £100 + £25 about $1210 😂
This console is $960 in Canada.
Not even a disc drive.
That free Healthcare though
@@PhNatiK lol
Where’s the games again? I already own a PS5, PC, a Switch, and Xbox Series X. Sony needs to give a reason buy their platform. Because if you don’t have exclusives then what’s the point?
GTA 6, that must be enough for u for the next 10 years. I have a feeling it will be ;P
@@Shadowclaw25gta ain’t gonna be exclusive, and gta is trash. Can’t wait to hear people bisch about more shark cards while still happily consuming them 😂😂
Damn man, how much money do you have? I only have a Switch and pc, which were already expensive as hell.
@@lucianwong420 I just put em on a credit card and pay em down.
The digital consoles are not worth it when a manufacturer decides to brick the device on purpose when a newer console comes out and the new console is the main focus because it's making them money. The digital consoles are required to be connected to the internet and thru software updates the devices can be bricked intentionally when something new comes out. I would not be surprised if the digital consoles end up being the like the spotify car thing. There is no law against planned obsolescence and force arbitration since force arbitration can be included in the terms and conditions of the digital consoles like it's already happening with the roku devices. The digital consoles are the equivalent of tv streaming devices that are dedicated to mainly playing video games in a console form factor with the hardware specs of a console. For example, if both sony and microsoft decided that they want to enter the streaming tv boxes like it is with google with the chrome cast and apple with there apple tv device. For instance, the playstation device would be the playstation tv and the xbox would be called the xbox tv. There is a possibility that both the playstation and xbox will end up being a glorified version of the smart tv devices with hardware that is more powerful and more storage than there smart tv counterparts.
I just keep my ps5. No way i am buying a Pro. Time to wait for the ps6
PS6 will probably be $800 to $1K 😂
@@redscorpion9325 That's fine. I like console gaming in the living room. My office is for PC gaming that i spent a heck a lot more then 1k on lol
No need to "wait"... even when the PS6 comes around 2028 it will run 2 years exklusive games for sure after the release and other games for maybe 4+ years (like PS5 did and it is getting new games in 2024+).
@@Da-iken That's true but I will still buy a ps6 on release lol.
PC once you play on pc its over for console
A 7700xt PC is around 800 and more powerful than the pro, more games, more features and customization. Plus in a year or two or however long you can upgrade to next gen GPU with even better performance for 4-500. PC will always beat consoles, period.
If a series S held back the series X so will the PS5 non pro hold back the pro. If it doesn’t it PROVES! it was lazy devs.
Exactly. Get a used B550 motherboard, 5700X3D, 7700XT, 32GB of 3600 DDR4 and a 2TB Gen 4 NVME. The entire system would cost less than a PS5 Pro.
You could also go all new parts with this build, downgrade the cpu so its a 5600/7700xt build and its still not at 850 all said and done. This is bad value from Sony. 600 is what they should have did instead
Still dont have a PS5. Probably gonna skip it. GTA6 wont save it. If i can spend $800+ on a PS5, i'm sure I'll have a much better deal if i just saved another $300 to get a pc set up.
You don’t have to respond but I just wanted to tell you that if you check at your nearest pawnshop and see what they got as for PS5 my pawnshop guy said they have PS5 starting at $400 I know it probably won’t change your mind but i just wanted to tell you anyway
$1100 for a pc with peripherals would be a poor performing machine lol
In the Uk, it’s £700 which is over 900$ in the U.S, Sony thinks I’m crazy! I’m going with the PS5 Slim, I’m not a hardcore gamer so 60fps on my TV is completely fine! That’s what most people have anyway!
Europe €800 euro that is in dollars $882.15.. WTF.. without a diskdrive
Looks like Apple is not the only one that's been on a recent downfall goddamn. What happened to these companies and lack of technological innovations and advances. I'll just save the money I could be wasting on this for a PS6
Lack of competition
Of course its for Devs. Now they can optimize even less!
"Is Ps5 pro worth it"?
Heck, is original Ps5 even worth it?
Original is worth it definitely.
the fact they dont give you the shitty as plastic stand is crazy
3/4 of the gamer choose Performance so... let's add more Ray Tracing!
For $250 you can buy a Box Series S (on sale) and game in both worlds
That was my thought too
I bought a used Series S for 90 dollars...
@@TravisTheSavagethat feels like cap ngl
@@TravisTheSavageits stolen though
Dam Xbox. Resale value is worse than a vehicle lol.. Microsoft sks
$700 plus another $80 for the disc drive then THEY upped the price of the ps5 controllers by $5 yesterday... Yk the day before the ps5 pro was announced.
Facts
1200$ 4070 Laptop 1440p 120hz+ screen. 20$ cheaper than 700$ +30$ + 80$ + 60$ 1 year online multiplayer + 350$ 4k 120hz tv.
4070 1080p 165hz exist for sure 1200$ laptop, might taking some searching for a 1440p one.
I have an Xbox One X, a base PS4, and a gaming PC from 2017. I see no reason in upgrading right now.
One X still holds up
@@jared8530not when games arent being released on it
@xtr.7662 what games? Most people play COD or Fortnite these days.....lol
@@jared8530 well i guess but if youre playing real games then nah
@@xtr.7662 and the 4k disc player within it is fantastic too!
I genuinely think it's a great and needed technical upgrade. This is on AMD for being behind the curve with the original PS5 GPU features. The AI upscaling is HUGE. If you've ever used DLSS and compared it to FSR the difference is night and day. PSSSR is going to make games look incredible on a gaming monitor.
But yeah, it's not for most people and that's okay.
I'm tempted to get this. I'm hoping all the pissing and moaning in the comments deters the scalpers from buying them all up so they can be readily available when I get the funds to buy this.
I'm getting it just because in a bawla 😂
I don’t have any game discs I was a casual gamer and I would like to get into it with the higher tech so if you someone like that and have the money just get it.
Wait, you're telling me that Sony is making another terable business decision in their long line of terable business decision. I'm shock. Shock I said. That people are surprised. 😂😂😂
Short and straight forward answer fucking hell no
Oh I’ve been waiting for Matt/Kyle to talk about this 😂
Is it worth it? It's $965 in Canada plus tax. It's over a $1000 for that thing. Why would you spend that money? Just buy yourself a gaming laptop or pc. Everybody, keep your ps five and your playstation.Four
I’m not wasting $700 to play GTA 6 on the best console
I’ll gladly buy it on my XSX for $70-$100 then again on my PC later on.
Not if it don't come to the series s also xbox will block it must have feature parity
Better 60 physically...
Yeah, even if it GTA VI runs at 25 fps on the base consoles, I am not wasting that much money on a "pro".
But it cost 200 for series x 1tb ssd alone. Ps5 pro comes with 2tb and better guts insides.
@@javiersoberanisramos808no it will run 40fps 120hrz mode with 45% faster gpu alone will make it feel more smooth. With better lighting and raytracing.
I'm curious what Sony will do with all the backlash. Maybe they will work to include the disc drive for the $700 price and make disc-less $650? I doubt it, but never know.
6:39 "This feature MAY stabilze OR improve the performance of SUPPORTED PS4 and PS5 games." Sorry , but for that price, non-commital verbage doesn't cut it. They need to say WILL, AND, and ALL; not MAY, OR, and SUPPORTED. Let these consoles sit on the shelves and rot.
Sony gotta make back that CONCORD money ($200M!) they lost.
Sony taking L's after L's .... this will explain why they have crazy pricing on the pro, and raising prices on consoles and subscriptions
good thing i don’t care about GTA games. No disk drive included it’s a deal breaker for me
Millions invested into Concord, meanwhile $700 for the console and DOESN'T EVEN COME WITH A PIECE OF PLASTIC STAND
tbh many games like Jedi Survivor, Cyberpunk and Immortals of Aveum look absolutely terrible at 60 fps on ps5 so im actually really looking forward to this. Especially PSSR can fix this big problem modern games have due to FSR basically destroying image quality
I bought my og digital edition for 399😁 I got real lucky
Dont have a ps5 at the moment. Sold last one cuz I didnt have time for it anymore. Will buy this. Dont use discs anyways and for a PC with similar specs it would cost more. 1TB SSD samsung is like 80 bucks anyways
Im shocked that no one is mentioning the fact that the Pro will not exceed 120FPS. Thats just pathetic.
144-240FPs would of been worth 700$
Right? I was excited when the leaks were showing 144+ fps, i was gonna switch from xbox, but its just a normal ps5 with slightly more eye candy 💀
That's fine. I just want MORE games on 120fps. I want GTA6 at least on 60fps. If not then it's totally useless. A scam.
WiFi 7 suprised me. I thought they would save that for the PS6 and wireless PSVR 3.
4:16 who is Ray and what is he tracing?
Good question
No. It's better to stick with either base PS5 or PS5 Slim.
pssr = Playstation Spectral Super Resolution or Playstation Soviet Socialist Republic, which is it?.
It's AMD s fsr. ☮️
how about both companies introduce a console that can do 4k 120 on every game...LIKE THEY PROMISED.
It's crazy how much we shell out for our phones just to scroll through social media. I'd totally spend more on a console if it had better GPUs. I’d skimp on my phone to get an awesome console. Too bad that’s not happening, so I’m stuck with a huge PC.
its crazy consoles are still struggling to get 60 fps when it has been status quo for PC for it seems a decade now.
It's the devs the consoles are capable of 60fps-120FPS the devs need to step up
The problem is mostly down to developers not adding Graphics options in their games on console. From what I've gathered, the situation is getting better, but not as standardised as on PC.
Every single PlayStation 1st party game has a 60fps option
Good points made. I had a phat and slim. Sold the slim but kept the ssd, stand, games, and controller, knowing the pro was coming. I will STILL have to buy the disc drive for my games, which means $850 after taxes... I'm an adult homeowner with a career and no kids, and I am telling you that they're insane.
Short answer no its not worth it
I've been one to keep up with the times for years, but now, since I'm getting older, I realize it's all about the fun in Video Games! I have all the consoles. I still games on on my PS4 and my 360. I love going to Arcades, and playing classics! I rather stock my Game Room with arcade cabinets before getting the PRO.
This is the problem! Console historical inexpensive pricing has changed my friends. As consoles reach PC performance and standards, they will also automatically cost more to PC standards. $699 for the upgrade the Pro gives you is totally justifiable. To build a PC like the PS5 Pro would probably cost you more, not to mention the parts as well. If you wanted to upgrade, it would cost you hundreds of dollars, too. People need to get over the rising cost of consoles and accept that if you want games to run close to or as PC performance well, then you have to pay. If not, stay with what you currently have, PS5 or Series X, and don't complain.
I game on an LG G1 Oled 65-inch TV. The Pro makes sense to me. Gaming on this TV with the Pro will look & feel ridiculously awesome. I welcome the Fidelity boost and performance without having to sacrifice one over the other.
Iv got my 1200 series ps5 last Christmas and its staying for 5 years plus with me, its so good it got me back into gaming, i mainly play HLL and gt7 and both games are beautiful and dont need anything else
More like 10+ years actually like ps4 did before that just gonna spend way more time on it
They also introduced PBSP....
PlayStationBullShitPricing
😂
Everyone acting like the $800 (CAD) price point was unexpected and I just dont get it. This is exactly what I was expecting... a marginally better device with no disk drive at the original selling point of the PS5. This is not for existing players to upgrade to... this is for new players coming into the/ upgrading ps console.
No
I am unfollowing a lot of gibberish youtubers after this headlines like "ps5 is super cheap". Thank you for being honest and on point instead of comparing apples and oranges by telling go build pc instead like some knuckleheads say. I can not create a presentation for work or school on ps5 pro. It will get old as fast as old gens before you even know it. Not worth it PERIOD. Some obtuse people forget one point that you pointed out: upgrade your tv that runs at 120 fps. Not only good but realistic points. You will pay much more per enhancement or upgrade. Not worth it. Enjoyed watching it.
Yeah you pretty much need to sell your kidney if you want this system lol😅
Sony can keep it. No stand, no disc drive and significantly more money. Might as well call this the PS5 Elitist. You need the Screen to match its output. Do they not see what's happening in the market?
I didn't need the ps4 PRO, I don't need this. If I had money to burn, I might, just cuz I'd have money to burn.
Getting close to just going to PC connected to my tv with a wireless controller. Cheaper in the long run...
Microsoft has almost killed Xbox, Sony says: hold my beer! Is PS5 Pro is DOA.
Xbox is not drying your over reacting
Xbox is in a poor situation but even with the PS5 pro's outrageous price it will still sell well people will buy it, Xbox can't come out with a pro as no one is going to buy it, they've tarnished their brand, they've more or less stopped are hardly making exclusives anymore as gamepass has ruined their business as it provides too much value and no real incentive to buy games on the system and seems like they will be going 3rd party/a publisher I doubt they'll make another console. And with no direct competition ofc Sony would price the highest amount they could plus they most likely saw how many people were willing to pay the scalper prices for their product so thought why not price it that way regardless.
Honestly, I think everyone can agree that with what you’re getting out of what you pay for, you’re not going to be getting your money's worth getting a PlayStation five Pro. You don’t even get a stand when you buy a PlayStation five Pro because it’s got the width of the PlayStation five slim and the height of the original OG PlayStation five. So it’s taller and just as thin as the PlayStation five slim, so it’s bound to tip over at some point, and I think most people would want to decrease the chance of your system flopping over by getting a stand for it unless you have a couple bookshelf stands that you could put on each side to keep it from falling over. Plus, the big three just doesn’t seem like it’s going to be that much of a bigger upgrade. Now yes, I will admit that it is definitely an upgrade that is decently better than what we have on the PlayStation five and the PlayStation five slim. But I don’t think the big three being the big part of what the upgrades are about for the PlayStation five Pro justifies that three to $400 increase to what the PlayStation five and PlayStation five slim models cost. I can maybe see 100. Maybe $160 would be pushing it, but at max $160 to buy the PlayStation five Pro, but I wouldn’t say anything more you should pay for to get a PlayStation five Pro unless for some reason you have an amount of income to where you can dispose of that kind of money. Or if you happen to have the money laying around somewhere and you don’t have a PlayStation five of some kind yet, yeah, I would say this is obviously the most powerful version of a game console so far, so you would want to play GTA six or other PlayStation five games that come out. But if you don’t have the money laying around, or even if you do still have the money laying around and you have a PlayStation five or a PlayStation five slim, I think you are still good enough and it’s not really needing an upgrade quite yet. Maybe when the PlayStation six comes out, but as of now, if you have one of the first two models, I think you’re OK and don’t necessarily absolutely need the upgrade. Performance-wise, it does just fine with every PlayStation game available on Fidelity and performance mode. And I personally think that it’s going to run GTA six just fine, obviously not as well as the PS five pro, but I do think that the PS five and PS five slim are going to do a phenomenal job still. Even without the big three, I still think it’s going to do a phenomenal job at running GTA six. So any consumer, just save your money for a PS six or PS six slim if you want to get the PS six cheaper. That way, hopefully, the PS six is going to have even bigger upgrades than the PS five pro. I feel like at that point you will be getting your money's worth, at least hopefully, if Sony doesn’t keep going downhill with this big stab in the back they did with the PS five Pro. Just cross your fingers and hold out hope; hopefully, things get better.
Now 30 FPS is choppy, because there is PS5 Pro, but otherwise it would be a CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE.
dont worry, 2025 first games release that brings back that CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE ;)
Since the basic ps5 already was 4k proven :>
@@Shadowclaw25 The PS5 box claims it's 8K ready, if you still believe Sony at this point, you're a lost cause.
No offense.
For a similar price you could get a PC that while less powerful would still be competent enough to be more appealing given the massive game library, mods, and emulators by comparison, especially if you loaded it up with SteamOS or ChimeraOS to mimic a game console.
Clearly xbox is consumer friendly over ps though it could get a wee bit expensive there too .
I was looking forward to finally upgrade from my PS4 Pro, stepping into PS5 with full power. I will probably still do it but I was hoping for more, pretty disappointing to see no drive and 2tb which is upgradable anyway.
PS5 pro or a Asus handheld hmmmm
@@TravisTheSavage lol
Austin, I can see you wanted to be brutal about this, don't be afraid of the ponies!
Dang, both of your channels had videos about the PS5 pro within 3 hours of the announcement. Can't miss the hype train for that precious precious revenue lol.
no amount of excitement from you is going to convince us to buy this.....
i'm just going to upgrade my 3070 to a 4080 super.....
Price is fair...phones are above $1000 and we all pay for those 😂
Yeah, but most people pay monthly on mobile phones contracts.They don't normally buy a 1000 pound phone outright. Some do most don't.
And most people generally upgrade said phone 3-5 years ish where a console easily lasts 7+
phones needed all day for your communication ,mail, work,entertaiment,business etc.Consoles are only for gaming
Well, it’s more important to call,text, email,work,video call family, friends, boss, etc. than to play a system that maybe looks a bit better on some games.
@@chloeprice9544 average person switches phone a year or 2 later. PS5 2020 PS5 pro 2024 sounds fine to upgrade even to those who still have the ps4
After bein a console gamer my entire life since the SNES, I’ve gone full PC this generation after owning a PS5. This is the closest consoles have ever gotten to PC in performance but also in price and it continues to go up. With the lack of new AAA games and many of them going to PC anyway, it just made more sense to spend more for a PC that will outlast this console bc the games get cheaper, free online, vastly superior performance, and importantly to me never having to worry about backwards compatibility in the future bc I know my games will always be accessible down the line regardless of whether I upgrade my PC. The one thing console has going for aside from ease of use is price and it’s gotten too expensive to game on console even if it’s less upfront. I refuse to pay to play online yearly and games get way cheaper on PC over time
Boooo sony !!!!!! i have the og Disc Version IM NOT GANNA SPENT 900 on you 😂😂😂
Honestly sold my PS5 Last year and but a beefy PC and I still can play the PlayStation games because eventually they come to PC
Not even a little bit!
I'm sorry, but I don't see very many people dropping $700 on a PS5 Pro just to play GTA 6 at a slightly higher quality.
Sure, it's nice to have a ssd that can hold more than 4 games. I feel base ps5 should've been able to do 4k 60fps, so that's a must. But $700 is too much, they won't be getting a bunch of sales. And no disk drive? That's a joke! $600, or maybe $650 with a disk drive. Im all about getting a new console to run games at peak capability, but $700 is a hard sell.
Do you remember when everybody bullied Sony to turn in the PS4 Pro exorbitant price down to a reasonable one? I think we need to do that as a community again to the PS five and knock it down from 700 to reasonable 500.
I guess why is this a bad thing? They're giving the consumer options in between traditional console gaming and PC gaming. The PS5 isn't going anywhere. You all greatly under estimate how much people are willing to spend to get the best console gaming experience. I know plenty of late 30's to mid 50's gamers with money that will buy this without batting an eye and plug it into their oleds. Gamers aren't all 12-18 year olds anymore, times have changed. The disc and stand thing are annoying, no doubt.
Sony be like: Give us your wallet.*pulls out a glock*
I've been waiting for this since PS5 launched (I never bought the OG PS5) and I don't think I'm buying it. It's $925 in Canada. PS4 was $399. They've put absolutely zero effort into exciting NEW IPs and taken the safe boring greedy Marvel approach of sequels and nothing but sequels. Spiderman sequels, God of War sequels, Horizon sequels, and to be honest, I'm not a big fan of any of those games. I want something totally new but Sony has aimed their games at the lowest common denominator and priced their hardware out of almost everyones price range. They can't even throw in a disc drive. This is a greedy directionless company that deserves to lose.
If we allow them to do this every console for the rest of our lives will start at 700 moving forward
We allowed phones to be 1000 dollars and people still buy them.
@@Bilingsly you ain’t lieing lol
question? should i get a ps5 pro for $700 or Apple Wheels for $700?
"$700 for the new PS5? ..That's WAY too much." - RTX 4090 owner. 😁
So your PC with your RTX 4090 and other peripherals & components (monitor(s), cpu, ram, ssd, etc.) is worth how much? 1500 or 2000 dlls?
@@wicho80well, that pc can run ps games, Xbox games, pc games, old games, new games, emulators, can also be used to work, and won't be needing an upgrade in a ton of years, plus, games on pc are cheaper, epic games literally gift us games every week, online is free... Yeah, it's totally worth it.
@@wicho80That 4090 is by itself $1500-$2000, so the rest is atleast another $1000, so $2500-$3000 or more is worth it? Heck no, because with some games nowadays even that 4090 has a hell of a time just doing 4k 60fps. So yep that's worth it for that much. lol
@@wicho80yes bc it’s 4x better than this whole damn console if not more. That pc will be high end for 5 years minimum. That’s not including how long u can use it for. This is a waste of money period bc they are going to lie to u like they did with the ps5 and xsx so u will never really get the full performance of this console like u would with the 4090 period. I have a rtx 4090 with a 7800x3d, 32GB of ram and 2 ssd for about 2800 at the time I got it. Console are supposed to be cheap not pc pricing bc u might as well spend the other 100 to get a Ight pc that u can do more with in the future
@@kamishiro5 Won't be needed to upgrade in a ton of years?! C'mon! Let's be honest... in five years you'll need to upgrade the GPU of your PC to run AAA games and you'll spend 1500 dlls, but hey! you will be able to run the oldies games and emulators (which I can do it in a series S). Yeah totally worth it XD
we don't even know if gta 6 will be released on schedule. It probably is, but we really don't know.
Not to mention if you want to get the true pro experience you actually have to pay 810 dollars since the fucking stand and disk drive are sold separately
Xbox it's time to announce a price drop for the series x and announce the handheld yall been working on
That would be killer, especially in Japan
@Twiz301 eh that might be a bit to far. Japan is the land of Nintendo and PlayStation. Apparently Xbox had a huge surge of interest due to price increases but there are so few people there even a 100% increase isn't super impressive
Xbox needs to capitalize on this major L though and shove it in our faces why we should be playing on their platform and not playstation
I agree, for the specs I could see why $700 but if a competitor is really making moves it may force them to offer a 1tb model with AT LEAST the stand all for $600
I think a lot of that price is down to the 2TB SSD. The Series X at 2 TB is pushing $600 so I think it's definitely possible that the PS5s faster SSD and overall setup is very expensive.
So now devs gotta make games for two Xbox’s and two PlayStations. This gen is wacky.
Consoles have just become more locked down PC's, and all the Dev's need to do is add graphics sliders in games just like they already do on PC, a mode that detects you're running the PS5 Pro, and applies the correct settings, but having said that $700 is too dang expensive in my book for a console that can't do 1/2 of what a PC can do at 1/2 the cost if you're not talking about RAW graphics power.
ahahahahah , damn true shit !
If console players would know how terrible the settings in games are made when devs fix them. I never play with the Proposed best settings on pc i can always increase by 10-30fps without loss of Quality ;>
Ahhh ha ha ha, that's not how game development works my friend. You think game studios make a different version for every CPU or GPU in PCs? The differences are minimal and easy typically. Hardware specific memory leaks can be a thing but that's mostly do to garbage code in the first place.
@@frogslayer4849 According to steam hardware charts most gamers are using 3 years or older GPUs with the 1060 being the most used worldwide. And all I been hearing the last 4 years is how the series s is holding back games. But somehow making games that take full advantage of the ps5 pro while also being able to play on ps5 isn’t an issue. Come on now. No games are gonna take advantage of that power. This gen has been stale. They would have to start a game today and it wouldn’t release till ps6 releases. The ps5 pro is pointless. We don’t even get games taking full advantage of series x and ps5 today. Where are all the 4k 120hz releases at? Only a handful of games barely hitting 60fps at 4k today. You think we gonna get 120hz at 4k this gen? Not likely at all. First party Sony and Ms titles are releasing today at 4k 30fps. Don’t get me started on 8k. We have been promised that for the last 5 years. Nothing has released at 8k. 99% of consumers don’t even have a monitor or tv that can do 8k
You can say the same thing about last gen consoles as well