Penny Skateboards: Introducing the 32" Cruiser

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • With a fully functional nose and tail, as well as concave, the all-new 32” Cruiser is the most versatile Penny ever created. Whether you are cruising around town, slappying a curb, filming your friends, or skating flatground, the 32” is your new go-to cruiser.
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  • @nemsthefirst
    @nemsthefirst 7 лет назад +41

    Everyone commenting on wheels, lost pop/plastic, and the usual penny hate. No one seems to see what I see in this board, skateboard for the RAIN! Throw some old crap bearings in and something to make the top have more grip and your set.
    I generally don't like penny boards but this thing looks great.

    • @n64sauce71
      @n64sauce71 7 лет назад

      nemsthefirst soooo basically a real skateboard?

    • @nemsthefirst
      @nemsthefirst 7 лет назад +3

      n64 sauce almost yea, one that would make due in a pinch and won't warp from water exposure.

    • @hihi-ol1up
      @hihi-ol1up 5 лет назад +1

      Exactly! Wanted a cruiser for rain and I would definitely get it

  • @TheSmollest
    @TheSmollest 7 лет назад +27

    Glow in the dark version looks stunning, overall this is a pretty good concept

  • @bkackmagic555
    @bkackmagic555 7 лет назад +136

    so it combines the advantage of being able to cruise around but if u wanna jump a curb or go over large cracks and stuff or basic tricks ur good i like it

    • @Milko-xk5wt
      @Milko-xk5wt 7 лет назад +2

      Vault Boy // but there is still soft wheels and cruiser trucks. Just making bigger tale can be still not enough. And if you really want to do basics tricks this is still possible on Penny/Nikiel board

    • @038t
      @038t 7 лет назад

      Milko 7002 jeah but on thus uts easier

    • @zaekindaday
      @zaekindaday 7 лет назад +7

      Milko 7002 but the 32 inch gives more feet room. That way you can be a little more spaced out. I feel like the smaller models don't give enough feet room to properly go from place to place in a smart way. That being said I have a friend who bombed a hill on a nickel board and that shit was impressive.

    • @jonlarockmusic5705
      @jonlarockmusic5705 7 лет назад +3

      just buy cruiser wheels for ur skateboard. plastic has no pop

    • @whosmansisthis1894
      @whosmansisthis1894 7 лет назад

      Vault Boy dude just buy a skateboard!

  • @lukeoneill3413
    @lukeoneill3413 7 лет назад +349

    Sooooooo it’s a skateboard... with cruiser wheels and trucks

    • @123yesu
      @123yesu 7 лет назад +7

      Luke O'Neill essentially yes

    • @hectorjosuna623
      @hectorjosuna623 7 лет назад +63

      But made of plastic

    • @Milko-xk5wt
      @Milko-xk5wt 7 лет назад +7

      Luke O'Neill // with soft plastic deck

    • @viajeIectrico
      @viajeIectrico 7 лет назад +22

      And without a griptape

    • @Milko-xk5wt
      @Milko-xk5wt 7 лет назад +11

      YouToob // dude you can just put any griptape on it

  • @cenzosenerchia3043
    @cenzosenerchia3043 7 лет назад +13

    This just changed the game... I’ll be carving up nyc with this in due time

  • @7Roxer
    @7Roxer 7 лет назад +176

    Why couldnt you guys release this a few months ago before I bought my Nickel?????

    • @elcocaino8728
      @elcocaino8728 7 лет назад +3

      Roxer sameeeeee

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад +2

      This seems worth the buy

    • @SkateTherapy
      @SkateTherapy 7 лет назад +2

      You should just watch out of the brand, they are only doing their plastic version of cruisers out there from long time.

    • @Mike-hq6xe
      @Mike-hq6xe 7 лет назад

      Roxer yeah!

    • @TnFPanzer
      @TnFPanzer 7 лет назад +5

      Because the world doesn’t revolve around u

  • @corn5341
    @corn5341 3 года назад +6

    Love the wheels this board comes with they slide sooo well

  • @samwilliams2297
    @samwilliams2297 6 лет назад +70

    Why is this not free shipping to Australia when it's called Penny AUSTRALIA

    • @iaazzzz69420
      @iaazzzz69420 5 лет назад +13

      it does have free shipping to australia tf

    • @YoutubeRemix06
      @YoutubeRemix06 3 года назад +1

      Because capitalism. deal with it broke boy

    • @tbirch001
      @tbirch001 2 года назад +1

      Sheeeeesh

  • @dontmessup63
    @dontmessup63 7 лет назад +192

    drinking game
    take a shot every time someone ask for a free board in the comments

  • @flyingpantsstudio971
    @flyingpantsstudio971 4 года назад +8

    The best thing ever for me. I wish I could buy the parts individually. Want a new deck.

  • @spacewaffle2491
    @spacewaffle2491 6 лет назад +74

    Penny boards: hey can I copy your homework?
    Normal skateboards: yeah just make it look different so the teacher won’t notice

  • @doukdouk2550
    @doukdouk2550 4 года назад +2

    So many stupid thrasher bois here hating on it. Skateboarding is about having FUN and being free. You skate whatever you want! If you enjoy skateboarding in anyway you are a friend of mine. This is the best artform! Skate and let Skate!! In the end it doesnt matter how much tricks you can land, the only thing that matters is how much fun you have while riding your wooden or plastic toys! Skateboards are toys for the SOUL!

  • @dcap001
    @dcap001 7 лет назад +72

    why not just buy crusier wheels for your normal skateboard it's easier but this is still dope not gonna lie

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад +5

      Because I would bet that a deck like this would hold it's pop longer

    • @alfievanveen5206
      @alfievanveen5206 7 лет назад +32

      Dylan Hermann what pop? It pretty much bent in half when he ollied

    • @nero9978
      @nero9978 7 лет назад

      Dylan Hermann HAHAHA😂😂😂

    • @notsoluki
      @notsoluki 7 лет назад +3

      L if you’re going to use it for cruising the board is going to maintain its pop for a good while since you’re not going to be skating full on with it

    • @aslipperysnake
      @aslipperysnake 7 лет назад

      Bjorn Bjorn true

  • @ladybird128
    @ladybird128 4 года назад +6

    Just got one recently to use as transport and is great.

    • @abelcanalesjr5715
      @abelcanalesjr5715 2 года назад +1

      That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

  • @elioth7795
    @elioth7795 7 лет назад +47

    this should be called the dollar board

    • @habibikhader
      @habibikhader 4 года назад

      211 _ no it’s the quarter board the longboard is the dollar board

  • @E38vip
    @E38vip 7 лет назад +3

    I have a regular deck and I fuks wit dis, I can't imagine how smooth the boardslides are on that deck

  • @SkateTherapy
    @SkateTherapy 7 лет назад +29

    Got it 54mm 90a wheels, is basically a filmer board. People here have no idea of how different is going to be the ride compared to a regular penny, much slower and risky with pebbles.

    • @Van.Elison
      @Van.Elison 7 лет назад +1

      Urban Survival - Skate Therapy how could it possibly be much slower? It has more weight to it, so you may just need to push harder.

    • @SkateTherapy
      @SkateTherapy 7 лет назад +4

      Smaller wheels hold less speed as they cover less terrain for each revolution, smaller and harder wheels also get more friction in rough terrains, so they are slower (specially for people used to penny wheels) ..but hey, if you push harder sure you go faster :). On the other side they keep the board less high and are easier to slide and flip.

    • @prod.aseuth6006
      @prod.aseuth6006 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah right, im answering to a 6 months old comment :D 90a wheels are still pretty soft wheels, i got one of the Ricta Clouds 92a and I can tell you they feel soft asf, they are faster than 100a wheels and they roll pretty much over anything. I never had trouble with a pebble stopping me on 92a so I dont think it will make any difference to a 78a wheel

  • @anarchySandwich
    @anarchySandwich 7 лет назад +16

    Ima buy the black one and put some shark wheels on it.

    • @sean_lundy
      @sean_lundy 6 лет назад +2

      izciary super Combo

    • @axelateon1384
      @axelateon1384 4 года назад +2

      fernando jauregui wtf man he just wants to have fun cruising around with the Best toys

  • @timmcgrath7336
    @timmcgrath7336 6 лет назад +6

    can you send this to some RUclipsrs cause their are no reviews at all

  • @Tenja0
    @Tenja0 7 лет назад +2

    페니스케이트보드가 32인치가 나왔다니... 정말 좋은 보드예요! 꾸준히 페니를 이용하고 있어요. 추천합니다~

  • @PabloHernandez-tg6xn
    @PabloHernandez-tg6xn 7 лет назад +5

    When you get a penny recently but they come out with this 🙃

  • @overzu
    @overzu 7 лет назад +1

    Finally they did it. I'm wondering if trucks is OK.

  • @P_s_i_h_o_l_o_g
    @P_s_i_h_o_l_o_g 3 месяца назад

    I bought a SURFSKATE this summer and was extremely limited in my rides. My fish has a meraki pendant on it, what a miracle it is from yow. In general, to put it briefly, the thrill is only in the “pool”. And on the roads and in parks the only style of riding is carving. And this means: slow down - fly off the board. Pushing off with your foot will not work, since it is not stable due to the same meraki. That's why I need Penny's advice

  • @justfive555
    @justfive555 7 лет назад +4

    I’ve been looking for something like this

  • @jediael9906
    @jediael9906 7 лет назад +159

    I WANT

    • @jonlarockmusic5705
      @jonlarockmusic5705 7 лет назад +5

      save urself $100 and just buy some cruiser wheels.

    • @jw24119
      @jw24119 6 лет назад

      Get one for Naruto

    • @brokenteethalbumreviews5388
      @brokenteethalbumreviews5388 6 лет назад

      Minato Namikaze just got mine today didn't like the bearings so I switched them out with Spitfire cheapshots and it hauls more ass man

  • @andrikmartinez1214
    @andrikmartinez1214 5 лет назад +2

    Recently ordered this, its finna be my first skateboard, wish me luck yall lmao

  • @TheTylerRossmann
    @TheTylerRossmann 4 года назад +3

    I want to get this to both cruise and try tricks!

  • @derekdrysdale7
    @derekdrysdale7 3 года назад +1

    Woo I just got mine today getting rdy for spring or summer coming n figured b different bc everyone uses wood boards

  • @therealfaintinggoat
    @therealfaintinggoat 7 лет назад +49

    I really want to like it. I'm a big Penny fan. I just don't know why I'd want this over a regular street board.

    • @undftdchris717
      @undftdchris717 7 лет назад +7

      Phil Reece More durability

    • @mattthorpe3031
      @mattthorpe3031 7 лет назад +6

      Cruiser wheels and trucks and better durability

    • @edwarddelgado5928
      @edwarddelgado5928 7 лет назад +14

      It makes less noise than a standard skateboard

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад +9

      It will ride smoother because of the wheels and the trucks are more durable, but the new deck will have more pop and last much longer than a regular board.

    • @pete6095
      @pete6095 7 лет назад +6

      Dylan Hermann well you could just put cruiser wheels on a normal board, an how are the trucks more durable than some Indy’s?

  • @roguex9469
    @roguex9469 6 лет назад +4

    I would still put some good tape over the deck though. 🤣
    I'm all about that ollie life. 🤘

  • @sgtcrunk10
    @sgtcrunk10 7 лет назад +1

    Just got mine in the mail yeah it’s pretty sick

  • @joshpenton5588
    @joshpenton5588 7 лет назад +4

    I can't imagine the razor tail that would get, not to mention it's probably kinda more expensive than a wood deck

  • @gerratura1633
    @gerratura1633 7 лет назад +3

    I wish this existed before I got a penny...this is perfect for me aaaaahhh

    • @albertomoreno3042
      @albertomoreno3042 7 лет назад +1

      Gerratura u should of got a skateboard then 10x better than a penny board

  • @ihateandreykrasnokutsky
    @ihateandreykrasnokutsky Год назад +1

    I think it would be cool to have the board looking totally like a usual skateboard's deck.

  • @landonbalcom729
    @landonbalcom729 7 лет назад +1

    I need this to complete the collection I have the penny 22in 27in and the longboard I need this

  • @jajcekii.7667
    @jajcekii.7667 6 лет назад

    THIS LOOKS SO SICK

  • @luisapodlesny3751
    @luisapodlesny3751 6 лет назад

    I have a mini pennyboard australia glow in the dark and it is so cool I subscribed this channel I love penny australia

  • @AeruZGamingNet
    @AeruZGamingNet 6 лет назад +1

    Can i buy this right now? I checked the site and it doesnt have a "Buy" button

  • @terrygyatso3928
    @terrygyatso3928 5 лет назад +1

    I got the 119$ mint for $58 because black friday sales. Epic win time

    • @97.97-z4c
      @97.97-z4c 5 лет назад

      Ogyen Gyatso and? what do you think abt the board

  • @samwilliams2297
    @samwilliams2297 7 лет назад

    When is it going to be available and what sorta price are we looking at here?

  • @lehanne7137
    @lehanne7137 6 лет назад

    I am wondering whether I should buy a Nickel or this to be my transportation. Which one is more suitable?

    • @Conlantine
      @Conlantine 6 лет назад

      Charcoal Boy The Nickel would be more transportable but the 32 is better for smooth rides

  • @onasapiel4718
    @onasapiel4718 6 лет назад +1

    Perfect filmer board

  • @mercymoth
    @mercymoth 7 лет назад

    HOLY CRAP I did not expect this

  • @Max-kc4yh
    @Max-kc4yh 7 лет назад

    this is what i was looking for

  • @nihatshalkar4410
    @nihatshalkar4410 5 лет назад +3

    Tip:buy a walmart board and place ur penny s trucks wheels and bearings there and u got the 32''

  • @dogacan5200
    @dogacan5200 5 лет назад

    Woah I just saw this in 2019 and woow they did what I thought of making

  • @fb04
    @fb04 7 лет назад +7

    I can't find them on your website??😭😭😭

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад +1

      They are there now www.pennyskateboards.com/us/shop/by-size/penny-32-inch.html/

    • @fb04
      @fb04 7 лет назад +1

      Dylan Hermann thanks

    • @nomesky
      @nomesky 7 лет назад

      Not available from official UK penny retailer, according to the website. www.pennyskateboards.com/uk/shop-by-size

    • @karsonfelder9330
      @karsonfelder9330 6 лет назад

      They sell them on zumiez website

  • @wrongboarders6963
    @wrongboarders6963 7 лет назад +2

    I have purchased EVERY penny board available and I️ have NEVER been disappointed! From the 22 to the 36 every shape or style will do the job PERFECTLY!! I would Love to do a review of this insane work of art!🤘🏽

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад

      Rock on skate on

  • @elcocaino8728
    @elcocaino8728 7 лет назад

    I'm hyped i want to get a new one

  • @beyondbirthday7856
    @beyondbirthday7856 7 лет назад

    When will this penny go on sale in Japan?

  • @m_show1707
    @m_show1707 6 лет назад

    OMG!! IT IS REALY VERY COOL!!!!

  • @likcelik
    @likcelik 7 лет назад +2

    When is this releasing in europe?

  • @mackenzysoady6682
    @mackenzysoady6682 7 лет назад

    When do they come out

  • @hbproductions1997tm
    @hbproductions1997tm 7 лет назад

    I have been looking for this for a long time?

  • @freddelmuto6288
    @freddelmuto6288 7 лет назад

    I love this buying one for crimas baby

  • @FernandoLopez-ef5be
    @FernandoLopez-ef5be 7 лет назад +1

    That look dope

  • @relique2841
    @relique2841 7 лет назад +3

    you should make griptape for this

  • @brefed3551
    @brefed3551 6 лет назад

    I want to buy!! Good penny

  • @andymarando2168
    @andymarando2168 7 лет назад +2

    You guys should offer just the board for sale, I want one of these but the trucks look whack not really interested in the complete version

  • @artemposadskiy6959
    @artemposadskiy6959 4 года назад

    Im waiting my 32!!!

  • @micacalilong5927
    @micacalilong5927 7 лет назад

    Its a dream come true a penny skate board with double kicks, very cool ,you could just ride around town while doing flips and slide ,please send me one ,I would love to review it

  • @bobbybrainstorm
    @bobbybrainstorm 7 лет назад +3

    New quarterboard

  • @Sersi.
    @Sersi. 7 лет назад

    Now we’re talking 🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @youngboytim3987
    @youngboytim3987 7 лет назад

    When can I buy one?!

  • @okada2828
    @okada2828 7 лет назад

    How much is this?
    I want it in Japan.

  • @edimartins1169
    @edimartins1169 7 лет назад +9

    I want it. 😱

  • @xanderfilms8820
    @xanderfilms8820 4 года назад

    I wish they still had the blue one

  • @Teniente_Aldo
    @Teniente_Aldo 7 лет назад

    Woaw this is awesome!!!!!

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад

      Right? I love the glow in the dark one.

    • @Teniente_Aldo
      @Teniente_Aldo 7 лет назад

      Dylan Hermann Yes! Santa please?😂

  • @ACE-zk2os
    @ACE-zk2os 7 лет назад

    woah I want one!

  • @reuben4993
    @reuben4993 7 лет назад

    I bought a nickel yesterday.. DAMNNN

  • @k22163939
    @k22163939 7 лет назад

    Need one!!!!!

  • @emilianogonzalez4867
    @emilianogonzalez4867 6 лет назад

    When will this be released

  • @michaellock7849
    @michaellock7849 6 лет назад

    Can this skateboard be used to learn tricks for the first time?

    • @felixr.4177
      @felixr.4177 6 лет назад

      Michael Lock if you want to learn and do tricks you better buy a complete deck or go to your local skate shop and ask for advice.
      don't buy this hipster/poser shit

  • @kuroowl4715
    @kuroowl4715 3 года назад +1

    Are the wheel loud or quiet?

    • @Matt-uw9rb
      @Matt-uw9rb 3 года назад

      quiet

    • @abelcanalesjr5715
      @abelcanalesjr5715 2 года назад

      That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

  • @archiearnold3718
    @archiearnold3718 7 лет назад +1

    Penny and skate had a baby

  • @theslimysableye3424
    @theslimysableye3424 7 лет назад

    Wow a good one finally

  • @santiagosalazar6241
    @santiagosalazar6241 5 лет назад

    how much weight does it support?

  • @jeroenenmaarten
    @jeroenenmaarten 7 лет назад +18

    Is it grippy enough to do flip tricks on?

    • @ryanwilliamson669
      @ryanwilliamson669 7 лет назад +1

      Maarten Smits they might make theyre own grip, I think

    • @jeroenenmaarten
      @jeroenenmaarten 7 лет назад +3

      Oceanhair114 yeah I know but it rips and tears super fast because the board bends so much.

    • @ryanwilliamson669
      @ryanwilliamson669 7 лет назад

      Maarten Smits good point

    • @elcocaino8728
      @elcocaino8728 7 лет назад

      Yes

    • @OsmarMty
      @OsmarMty 7 лет назад +1

      Maarten Smits Maybe you can use that Spray Can Griptape. It will make the top of the skateboard visible and maybe would last a lillte bit longer

  • @matteomoretto7074
    @matteomoretto7074 7 лет назад

    When i can buy it ??????

  • @shabba3232
    @shabba3232 6 лет назад

    When's the release date?

  • @Skindianabones415
    @Skindianabones415 7 лет назад

    You need to come up with the penny drop through

  • @sugarfreedaddie5995
    @sugarfreedaddie5995 4 года назад

    it was weird at first because the tail is soggy like a spring. and when you pop, You will be surprised that you can Ollie. In fact i can do good ollies on this its tail is like a spring. The nose is allot stiffer. Great to ride in the dry but as soon as your feet are wet all grip is gone. so some grip tape wouldn't be a bad idea.

  • @jujuloww8730
    @jujuloww8730 7 лет назад +1

    Sick !!!!!!

  • @ebabyexclusive740
    @ebabyexclusive740 7 лет назад

    I just bought this i also bought the longboard

  • @your.freind.charlie3586
    @your.freind.charlie3586 4 года назад +1

    This video gives me major anxiety levels 😂

  • @litgodxevi1150
    @litgodxevi1150 7 лет назад +5

    take a shoot every time someone says to buy cruser wheels

  • @hamsack981
    @hamsack981 7 лет назад

    The kick tail is all bendy.

  • @tejasmkh6995
    @tejasmkh6995 7 лет назад

    WOWWW I NEED THISSSS

  • @ndm-mn5jv
    @ndm-mn5jv 7 лет назад +6

    SO SICK

  • @PapoMasterYT
    @PapoMasterYT 7 лет назад +2

    I like to stop on my skateboard by putting my tail down (But the heel of my shoe is a bit out on the tail so they both reduce the speed rather than one) but is that even possible for this skateboard? It looks nice but i dont wanna buy new shoes every time

    • @good4ud
      @good4ud 7 лет назад +1

      Papo what are you trying to say?

    • @PapoMasterYT
      @PapoMasterYT 7 лет назад

      Harrison Maddox tail mess up easily if I put it against ground

    • @n64sauce71
      @n64sauce71 7 лет назад

      Papo do you know how plastic works on concrete at a high speed, just think about it rlly quick

    • @PapoMasterYT
      @PapoMasterYT 7 лет назад

      n64 sauce it's why I asked I don't know penny much. Think about it real quick

  • @leac.1543
    @leac.1543 7 лет назад +147

    If you want to do tricks on a penny then why not buy an actual skateboard?

    • @elcocaino8728
      @elcocaino8728 7 лет назад +46

      Ael Zevahc because penny boards are like the smoothest boards out there

    • @BBSHOCKZ
      @BBSHOCKZ 7 лет назад +5

      El Cocaino how so?

    • @XxXpertPlayaxX
      @XxXpertPlayaxX 7 лет назад +17

      You don’t have to push every three seconds and you can go farther with this

    • @matildagreene
      @matildagreene 7 лет назад +39

      CJzProduction there's something called changing your bearings, if you have to push every 3 seconds change the fucking bearings and you'll have a great time

    • @fairladyz9957
      @fairladyz9957 7 лет назад +11

      Geezy BT bearings only do so much a softer bigger wheel will roll over cracks with more ease and will generally roll further with the same amount of pushing I had cruiser wheels whit crappy bearings and the bigger wheel still rolled farther than my regular skateboard with new bearings.

  • @datosmith9206
    @datosmith9206 6 лет назад

    Where can i buy this?

  • @Alex-yw4ws
    @Alex-yw4ws 7 лет назад

    Wow I just bought my other new trick board 2 months ago

  • @elisastulens3136
    @elisastulens3136 7 лет назад

    when in europe ???

  • @kdog7739
    @kdog7739 6 лет назад

    I can't seem to get it, why?!?

  • @kdog7739
    @kdog7739 6 лет назад

    How do we buy this tho

  • @louisch5504
    @louisch5504 6 лет назад

    Someone please tell me where to get this😭

  • @mattthorpe3031
    @mattthorpe3031 7 лет назад +1

    How soft are the wheels? Like in comparison to a normal skateboard. is the ride smooth when you are on rough surfaces like a normal 22" or is it a bit of a rougher ride?

    • @dylarob
      @dylarob 7 лет назад

      The ride would be smooth, like cruiser/longboard wheels

  • @killedbykato
    @killedbykato 7 лет назад

    Okay, mayyyybe this is tight, ion know

  • @tropiicediting8144
    @tropiicediting8144 7 лет назад +82

    Just buy a skateboard at that pint

    • @7Roxer
      @7Roxer 7 лет назад

      FLY KICKS literally a skateboard now

    • @osemudiame123
      @osemudiame123 7 лет назад +8

      FLY KICKS a skate board doesn’t do as well in very wet weather consistently

    • @calebp2743
      @calebp2743 7 лет назад +16

      osemudiame123 yes, but neither do bearings......

    • @BBSHOCKZ
      @BBSHOCKZ 7 лет назад +1

      osemudiame123 well once this plastic decks bearings are rusty it won't perform so well either lol

    • @Klavinoid
      @Klavinoid 7 лет назад +5

      So would you rather buy a new deck or a new set of bearings? I used my penny exclusively in rainy weather for six months (until I lost it) and the bearings were rolling good as new to the very end as long as I dried it off and stored it indoors.
      I will always prefer a regular wooden cruiser, but living in a country with a lot of rain, my Penny is indispensable.