@surfkid18 Yes. In order to use a 11.1v lipo you must get a mosfet to protect your trigger contacts from frying. To install a mosfet you have to open the gearbox so I suggest installing a delayer clip and upgrading your motor.
First I kept it in a gps pouch that was on the rear adjustable stock but I got tired of it and now I switch out my rear stock to a full butt stock. It's the JG shorty full stock. G&P also makes one.
Yes trust me. All G&P aeg's are made lipo spec. However I have seen one G&P gearbox's go down, it was my team captain's but I think that was more his fault, he ran an 11.1v and 23 yes I said 23 mags on his load out constant full auto. He saw 29 rps.
you can use rubber washers but I would not recommend metal/plastic washer for fixing AOE unless the are in between the piston & piston head. Otherwise you'll have damage. I use sorbo pads in my AEG's that I want more stealth, quiet, and durable.
@surfkid18 Lipos make everything work harder/faster in your gearbox so yes it makes the life expectancy lower however, if you tune your gearbox well it can last longer than stock set up. It's a lot of info therefore I can't explain everything here so I recommend you do some research on different airsoft forums. Also fps can go up by stronger spring, better cylinder, air seal, bucking, inner barrel size/length, nozzle, etc.
7.4 volt i think is a lot better. It's basically a 9.6 on steroids it gives you better trigger response and slightly faster rof and you don't need a mosfet for your airsoft gun all it does is prevent carbon build up on your trigger contacts and with a 7.4 volt it's going to be very minimal and if your trigger contacts have to much carbon just open the gearbox and clean them or you could replace them but it's not necessary at all.
10 years later; your comment deserves a big 👏👏👍. 7.4 lipo/lion gives the most balanced and good overall performance, especially for non mosfet products.
Hi, my 9,6v nimh brand new battery shows 9, 3 v on my multimeter, but the battery is virtually flat and will barely cycle my ak, what could be the problem? I tested the multi meter with other batteries and its fine? Can you shed any light please?
I better option would be sticking with your same voltage and just running the SHS High Speed Motor with SHS 13.1 ratio Gears. That will make it run well over 30rps on the 11.1v Lipo. Not sure why you are running a high torque motor at such low velocities?
i have a question i have a G&G AK47 blowback, can i put a WE Lipo 2600mah 20c nunchuck battary in? i rly don't now what for battary i need to buy.. please help i want max. performance, thnx
Okay my m4 came with a 9.6v battery. the gun fired around 600rpm. im getting a new battery cuz my 9.6v broke. About how much RPM will increase if i get a 10.8 or 11.1 volt battery?
Wait a bit...as i know SHS motors are really powerfull. How it is possible to have a 320fps spring with SHS ht motor running on a 9.6v ni-mh battery and get only 12rps? Before i put aftermarket internals in my echo1 m4, the stock parts of it,was, a 350fps spring, standard echo1 m4 motor,running on an 8.4v ni-mh battery and it had 15rps rof. idk, but, have you ever tried to open your gearbox for regreasing its gears&piston teeth or even to see how good their condition is? (friendly advise btw :))
C refers to current I believe. You can use a simply equation to find out the amperage. 2200mAh is 2.2 and you multiply it by C. 2.2 x 25 is 55 amps. 2.2 x 20 is 44 amps. Your gun will only use as much as it needs but some will burn the fuse if it's too much amps. I'm new to this too, so I can't give a more detailed description, but I know what I said is indeed correct.
Take the LiPo - it has: better trigger response, more shapes available and it is cheaper. The only con is the charger - you have to buy a proprietary one for the LiPos :)
For the Lipoly batteries can you use the stock engine of your AEG (in my case it is a JG super high power golden eagle engine)? I do have an upgraded engine but I am just curious.
Hey, i bought a G&P M4 MOE about a year ago and the motor is broken. Now i am looking for a good replacement. The motor that was in it was the 'G&P M120'. I used a 11.1V Lipo but i think that is a bit too much, im thinking of switching to a 7.4V. Any idea what would be a good motor and where to get it? Should definitely be a high torque motor. Cheers Nice vid btw :)
HI m8. thanks for your vids, they have been really helpful. Got a question. Noticed that on this build you did not mention having a sorbo pad on the gun, so brought to mind the question, are you still using one? Would you for example recommend a general rule of using sorbo pads instead of metal/plastic washers for fixing AoG
Hey do you think a cyber gun or king arms full Metal 1928 Thompson could handle a 11.1v lipo or 11.1v nimh battery without modifications? Or does every airsoft gun require Mosfet to use batteries above 9.68???
I use a 9.6 in my cm16 and I have shs high torque motor and shs piston. And piston head..I can tell you your 9.6 is no good..I am achieving 17 rps easily on valkan 9.6.
Michael Douglas ya 11.1 Lipo in nunchuck. That guy in video I can promise you was using a Shitty 9.6..nimh.. it had no brand name..it was garbage!!! ..if you use a decent brand name 9.6 with shs motor you will get decent rate of fire..almost guaranteed
great video, love how it's so specific. but one question, i know it might sound stupid, but since you used 0.25g bb's, will 0.2g bb's increase are rate of fire? And will the MOSFET increase the rate of fire as well?
I understand I'm responding to a very old comment, but I'm gonna comment anyways. The rate of fire is the rate of the piston going back and fourth to suck in and compress air (motor, gears, and shimming affects this). So a weight difference in BBs will have no difference in the rate of fire in a electric airsoft gun.
Most everything of quality can take a 7.4v lipo out of the box, it will probably handle an 11.1v for a while, but it won't last very long without proper prep and parts.
It'll run until the trigger contacts wear out/piston strips/gears fail. If you're fine with any of the above happening within ~20k rounds, then go for it.
@surfkid18 basic mosfet = $15, good motor = $35, delayer clip =$5, installing everything yourself and have an amazing gun ... priceless. There are somethings money can buy and for the things you can't afford theres youtube
I'm pretty sure once the NiMH guns are low voltage they shoot slow and you KNOW when your battery is dead. As far as I'm aware this lower voltage wont hurt NiMH.
@surfkid18 Yes. In order to use a 11.1v lipo you must get a mosfet to protect your trigger contacts from frying. To install a mosfet you have to open the gearbox so I suggest installing a delayer clip and upgrading your motor.
That wasn't a reply to 37gumbs by the way. Was for the video poster. 37gumbs that SHS High Torque Motor is perfect for your application.
I just set up a SHS 13:1 gear set with a SHS ultra torque motor and a 11.1v lipo in my G&G combat machine... WOW!
@InfinitePhasesFilms I know. An extra balancer only costs about $3 on Hobbyking Dont get worried. It was a 1 in a million experience.
First I kept it in a gps pouch that was on the rear adjustable stock but I got tired of it and now I switch out my rear stock to a full butt stock. It's the JG shorty full stock. G&P also makes one.
Usually the weight doesn't effect rate of fire only FPS but I'm sure it does by 1 or 2 bps.
i like seeing battery comparison videos... good job
muchas gracias por el vídeo, es lo que estaba buscando. saludos
The 9.6v battery he is using is a NimH battery, whereas the 7.2v battery is a LiPo battery. LiPo batteries have more discharge rate at lower voltages.
Yes trust me. All G&P aeg's are made lipo spec. However I have seen one G&P gearbox's go down, it was my team captain's but I think that was more his fault, he ran an 11.1v and 23 yes I said 23 mags on his load out constant full auto. He saw 29 rps.
you can use rubber washers but I would not recommend metal/plastic washer for fixing AOE unless the are in between the piston & piston head. Otherwise you'll have damage. I use sorbo pads in my AEG's that I want more stealth, quiet, and durable.
@surfkid18 Lipos make everything work harder/faster in your gearbox so yes it makes the life expectancy lower however, if you tune your gearbox well it can last longer than stock set up. It's a lot of info therefore I can't explain everything here so I recommend you do some research on different airsoft forums. Also fps can go up by stronger spring, better cylinder, air seal, bucking, inner barrel size/length, nozzle, etc.
7.4 volt i think is a lot better. It's basically a 9.6 on steroids it gives you better trigger response and slightly faster rof and you don't need a mosfet for your airsoft gun all it does is prevent carbon build up on your trigger contacts and with a 7.4 volt it's going to be very minimal and if your trigger contacts have to much carbon just open the gearbox and clean them or you could replace them but it's not necessary at all.
10 years later; your comment deserves a big 👏👏👍. 7.4 lipo/lion gives the most balanced and good overall performance, especially for non mosfet products.
Why does a 7.4 volts battery shoot faster than a 9.6 volts
Hi, my 9,6v nimh brand new battery shows 9, 3 v on my multimeter, but the battery is virtually flat and will barely cycle my ak, what could be the problem? I tested the multi meter with other batteries and its fine? Can you shed any light please?
Did you see the results. the 7.4 lipo had a faster fire rate than the NiMH battery. So why not get the lipo.
I use the shs ultra high torque motor with 11.1v lipo and its awesome. Really great trigger response and very fast.
my stock kwa m4 shoots 19 rps with a 9.6v, would the 7.4v but that in the 20-30 rps range
Well the 7.4v is a lipo with more cells and also it had 1600mah better then the 9.6v, the 9.6v was 1600mah and the 7.4v was 3200mah.
What would a 9.6v 1600 mah battery be in lipo terms
the "c" faulue dowsnt do anything whit the power
its kinda like the durability
can you explain why the rof is faster on the 7.4v Lipo than the 9.6v nimh. it makes no sense to me
I better option would be sticking with your same voltage and just running the SHS High Speed Motor with SHS 13.1 ratio Gears. That will make it run well over 30rps on the 11.1v Lipo. Not sure why you are running a high torque motor at such low velocities?
My rc not pair..
i have the 7.4V but my controler (Sports24Ghz) not pair with ... PLS HELP :(
@InfinitePhasesFilms
No, but I have burned my self by short-circuiting a Lipo with a faulty balancing board.
Hindi ba nakaka sira ng aeg rifle ang 11.1 volts
i have a question i have a G&G AK47 blowback, can i put a WE Lipo 2600mah 20c nunchuck battary in? i rly don't now what for battary i need to buy.. please help i want max. performance, thnx
Thanks guys. Then what about the safety cut off voltage for 14.8v, 11.1v and 7.4v lipo batteries?
Okay my m4 came with a 9.6v battery. the gun fired around 600rpm. im getting a new battery cuz my 9.6v broke. About how much RPM will increase if i get a 10.8 or 11.1 volt battery?
can a high end stock G&P M16 handle a 7.4v 1300mah 15c lipo?
top tech tr4 18 full metal carbine. What battery would you recommend for this one
is a 7.4v stick type bigger or smaller than a 8.4v stick?
Wait a bit...as i know SHS motors are really powerfull. How it is possible to have a 320fps spring with SHS ht motor running on a 9.6v ni-mh battery and get only 12rps? Before i put aftermarket internals in my echo1 m4, the stock parts of it,was, a 350fps spring, standard echo1 m4 motor,running on an 8.4v ni-mh battery and it had 15rps rof. idk, but, have you ever tried to open your gearbox for regreasing its gears&piston teeth or even to see how good their condition is? (friendly advise btw :))
do lipos have longer lifetime? compared to a NiHM both with 1600 MAH?
7.4 v witch amper charger to battery charge
does it matter which gun you have to use lipo battery?
is a 11.1 v battery can be use in 7.2 v airsoft
Hi, which is better Turnigy 2200mAh 2S (25C) Lipo Pack OR Turnigy 2200mAh 2S ( 20C ) Lipo Pack
and what does C refer to ?
C refers to current I believe. You can use a simply equation to find out the amperage. 2200mAh is 2.2 and you multiply it by C. 2.2 x 25 is 55 amps. 2.2 x 20 is 44 amps. Your gun will only use as much as it needs but some will burn the fuse if it's too much amps. I'm new to this too, so I can't give a more detailed description, but I know what I said is indeed correct.
Nvm, I'm pretty sure C stands for discharge rate.
Hi. Has anyone tryed Li-on 2x18650. It gives 7,4v. Can that be compared to 7,4 li-po battery? o.O
Take the LiPo - it has: better trigger response, more shapes available and it is cheaper. The only con is the charger - you have to buy a proprietary one for the LiPos :)
yea i get like 21rps with a 9.6v.
it depends.
Get the g&p m120 motor
For the Lipoly batteries can you use the stock engine of your AEG (in my case it is a JG super high power golden eagle engine)? I do have an upgraded engine but I am just curious.
I have intellect 9.6V NiMH battery 1600mAH What type of charger can i use ?
That is a great motor.
Hey, i bought a G&P M4 MOE about a year ago and the motor is broken. Now i am looking for a good replacement. The motor that was in it was the 'G&P M120'. I used a 11.1V Lipo but i think that is a bit too much, im thinking of switching to a 7.4V. Any idea what would be a good motor and where to get it?
Should definitely be a high torque motor.
Cheers
Nice vid btw :)
@DFWWARPIGS Thank you for commenting.
@joebob4501 Have you ever had a lipo violently explode on you using a cheap charger?
Where do you keep the 11.1V Lipo on your gun? Do you use a PEQ box?
You need a special lipo balance charger to charge lipo batteries, or they will explode violently!(look up lipo battery fire)
HI m8. thanks for your vids, they have been really helpful. Got a question. Noticed that on this build you did not mention having a sorbo pad on the gun, so brought to mind the question, are you still using one?
Would you for example recommend a general rule of using sorbo pads instead of metal/plastic washers for fixing AoG
Great Vids, I have a question about putting a 10.8v Nimh in my "Stock King Arms M4 Ultra Grade". I has a Reinforced V2 Gearbox. Thanks
very informative!
just wondering, higher the C, higher the rate of fire?
does 11.1 lipo battery ok in my ak47??open for any suggestions,, thanks..
I have a Ak47 Cm.028 airsoft it have 470 fps. With battery will be good for my Ak47? Anyone.
Go with a 7.4v 2200mah 20-30C Li-po battery, unless you have really good internals i dont think the 11.1v will be good for the gun.
OK thank you
Excellent video. What do they mean by the 25-50c "burst"?
The urge to answer a 10yo question
Does using a li-po put any extra stress on the gun?
How do you recharge those batteries? Do they deliver such a devise with it?
Hey do you think a cyber gun or king arms full Metal 1928 Thompson could handle a 11.1v lipo or 11.1v nimh battery without modifications? Or does every airsoft gun require Mosfet to use batteries above 9.68???
jason200912 yes, dont use an 11.1 without a mosfet, your gears will get stripped and your internals will practically melt from arching
A well charged 7.2v 2200mah lipo
I use a 9.6 in my cm16 and I have shs high torque motor and shs piston. And piston head..I can tell you your 9.6 is no good..I am achieving 17 rps easily on valkan 9.6.
9.6v nimh 1300 mah vs 7.4 lipo, 30c, 1450 mah? Anyone? (For Airsoft)
If you know how to handle a li-po battery you should definitely go li-po.
Are there nunchuck batteries that are more powerful than 9.6V?
Michael Douglas ya 11.1 Lipo in nunchuck. That guy in video I can promise you was using a Shitty 9.6..nimh.. it had no brand name..it was garbage!!! ..if you use a decent brand name 9.6 with shs motor you will get decent rate of fire..almost guaranteed
@Mikkel Lolholm Nielsen Lipo cells are more powerful than nimh cells ;)
No
@wontoncowman Smaller. Alot smaller
great video, love how it's so specific. but one question, i know it might sound stupid, but since you used 0.25g bb's, will 0.2g bb's increase are rate of fire? And will the MOSFET increase the rate of fire as well?
I understand I'm responding to a very old comment, but I'm gonna comment anyways. The rate of fire is the rate of the piston going back and fourth to suck in and compress air (motor, gears, and shimming affects this). So a weight difference in BBs will have no difference in the rate of fire in a electric airsoft gun.
@@totalfailforfun4721 old but gold...
If it doesn't say Lipoly ready then no, it can not handle a Lipoly.
Is a completely stock G&G cm16 raider with a shs high torque motor Lipo ready?
Most everything of quality can take a 7.4v lipo out of the box, it will probably handle an 11.1v for a while, but it won't last very long without proper prep and parts.
It'll run until the trigger contacts wear out/piston strips/gears fail. If you're fine with any of the above happening within ~20k rounds, then go for it.
Nathan Cartier oh yah itll do just fine ive put 10s of thousands of rounds through my G&G top tech with a stock motor hasnt skipped a bear yet
Nathan Cartier G&G gearbox shells are very weak, i would recomend against putting to much stress on it.
does the voltage only effect the rate of fire or does it change fps too?
The voltage of the battery does not effect the velocity of the bb, the spring does.
@g3tr00t3d Thank you.
Higher the voltage and higher the MaH, higher the rof
@surfkid18 basic mosfet = $15, good motor = $35, delayer clip =$5, installing everything yourself and have an amazing gun ... priceless. There are somethings money can buy and for the things you can't afford theres youtube
@joebob4501 That sucks.
Very well done ....Thank You
Damn right, needs to get the SHS High Speed Motor in there, rather than that high torque poo
goddammit i told myself i wouldnt choosetellytubbies insted of airsoft:(
i acctually knew this
dont know why i wrote this
What is the safety cut off voltage for a 8.4v, 9.6v and 10.8v nimh battery? Thanks
I'm pretty sure once the NiMH guns are low voltage they shoot slow and you KNOW when your battery is dead. As far as I'm aware this lower voltage wont hurt NiMH.
Nimhs are 100% safe to run 100% flat.