Francis Chan: Why I Left Cornerstone (Randy Robison / LIFE Today)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Francis Chan talks to Randy Robison about his decision to step down as lead pastor at Cornerstone Church, and introduces his video series called "Basic."
I "left the building" 7 years ago. Needed relationship, not religious institution. Never missed the superficial Sunday morning experience (except for the corporate worship - but not the "teaching" & lack of relationship). It took a while. There were times of isolation, but I've learned how to flow better in the Spirit. I have also been in the best Sabbath home group ever for 1.5 years now. It feels more real to me now (and I occasionally visit Sunday "church" with my kids).
It's amazing to see such humility. Watching his videos I can see him actually growing in the Lord. So amazing :)
For 52 years I've been a Jesus girl .. but through these past 38 months, God has crushed & broken my heart wide-open to Who He really is. I now truly do BELIEVE Him! Life Today & Francis are 2 of the sharpest tools God has used to begin the process of healing, transforming & renewing my mind & heart. As I thank our Lord for you, I am earnestly praying that you will remain strong in the Spirit..& that words may be given you so that you will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel. Yes!
Thank You! I needed this
Francis was not the only pastor at Cornerstone. We have a half dozen pastors at least, and Todd Nighswonger is really the elder that ran everything. The flock is well taken care of, and we support his move.
insightfulgirl Amen. That's great.💒⛪💒
I love Chan's honesty as a Christian and a leader. Pray everything goes well for him.
I love Frances Chan. Such a humble guy.
Keep listening and obeying the Holy Ghost. Stay humble. Bless you and your wife. I pray you have A ear to hear A heart to receive and A spirit to obey our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I just came out of membership in churches to fellowship. Being delivered from Vanity and pride. Realizing that's not the Truth. Jesus Christ was humble and didn't desire reputation just the WILL OF THE FATHER. It's very hard to give up and truly stand on the word of God and obey the Holy Ghost. Apostle Paul say denying And crucifying our flesh daily. The Truth is Love.
Praise God and Jesus the Christ for Francis Chan! May we ALL be bold to let go of ourselves and truly follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit!
I've been listening to Francis's messages lately and I respected him tt he bold enough to take a step a faith. as a Christian i have lot of things whch i needed to learn from him especially walking by faith and denying self.. 1 thing for sure prosperity preachers can never leave a mega church and start something new like him reaching to the poors..keep it up Francis i'm sure 1 day the LORD will say to you and Lisa "GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANTS' . -Godbless ;)
It all started with Crazy Love, I believed I knew God before but wow I had no clue how different this relationship should be and God has moved in my life like I could never have imagined. Since reading Crazy Love I have held two Crazy Love studies given it to all my friends and employees, I've been baptized and I am completely living for the Lord and allowing Him to direct my path. Words can't explain my gratefulness to Francis for his devotion and how he is changing people for God!!!
I know this video is several months old, and I'm just finishing "Crazy Love" for the first time now. But I want to take a moment to thank Francis for being faithful to what God has had him doing, and let him know I'm praying for whatever it is that God has for him next. I completely support following God before all else, and often taking some time in between moves is very healthy and helps focus. Bless you!
Nice to see a man open about his journey with God. Honest about uncertainty and humble enough to admit what he spent so much effort on wasn't resembling what church looks like in scripture...I'm not a critic...I'm an admirer.
I believe Francis Chan is a wonderful human being. I heard him at Willow Creek and then watched several videos. He has great faith to step out in response to a call which does not give him every answer. Would that we all have that kind of faith coupled with expectant action.
The greatest things in life are the things we don't plan, right? The things we do plan and try to manipulate are the ones that end in failure. Let God shape and direct your plans. Let God be the King.
Well Im pretty sure Abraham had no idea where he was going, he just left because God told him to. to get his things and start going. Why are you saying that?
Good luck Francis! Go google: "the dumbing down of the sheep"
bloke seems genuinely happy with his life u cant take that away from him
his older daughter rachel chan goes to my high school. very amazing and talented person
God bless bro.
All glory be to God. I pray that the sober teaching of the bible in power of Holly Spirit would be more strong and effective.
In religion, faith often involves accepting claims about the character of a deity, nature, or the universe. While some have argued that faith is opposed to reason, proponents of faith argue that the proper domain of faith concerns questions which cannot be settled by evidence.
CANNOT BE SETTLED BY THE EVIDENCE. Example You CANNOT PROVE EVOLUTION IS SUPERIOR TO CREATION THOUGH YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT SOME PEOPLES IDEA OF CREATIONISM MAY BE FAULTY.
My view of Creation isn't faulty.
Paul left Churches that he formed and planted, did he not? What is this about not leaving your flock stuff. Local churches are a smaller unit of the Church. Perhaps he is being promoted by the boss.
Job 24:13-17 {13} They are of those that rebel against the light; they know not the ways thereof, nor abide in the paths thereof. {14} The murderer rising with the light killeth the poor and needy, and in the night is as a thief. {15} The eye also of the adulterer waiteth for the twilight, saying, No eye shall see me: and disguiseth his face. {16} In the dark they dig through houses, which they had marked for themselves in the daytime: they know not the light. {17} For the morning is to them even as the shadow of death: if one know them, they are in the terrors of the shadow of death.
Yes, Francis, there is something more the Lord wants of his church... It is to obey all of his Commandments right from the beginning of his words, not just what the church tells you to obey. If you haven't heard this from his spirit yet, keep digging in the word and searching out for the whole truth. He's calling out Israel and showing us who we are, calling us back to the ancient paths, calling us back to obey his Torah! Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and strength. He who loves me obeys my Commandments. May all of Israel hear him calling us out of Babylon!
@Havemirrc i agree 100%. i do understand we are called to do some things without for revealation, but to be called to PASTOR A CHRUCH and told to leave it WITHOUT VISION OR DIRECTION i dont see that being God.. unless HE WAS NEVER CALLED TO PASTOR THAT CHURCH.. now if he is saying that then ok... truthfully as long as he is doing GOd's will thats all that matters. just hope that the people who sat under him is not mislead or confused now
Proverbs 20:24 "If a man's steps are of the LORD, how then can he understand his way." Have we figured God out so well to presume that He would NEVER do something unusual or unorthodox or even "unbiblical". I put quotes around that because as much as scripture is our guide, more often then not we use the term "unbiblical" as a cop out to box the work of God in. When in fact, in scripture God is often discreet in his purposes, but direct in His will. Ezekiel, go hide your underwear under a rock.
I think people should say: "some people do" instead of "we do".
why don't you come to Madison, Wisconsin?
I believe we have a lot to do here.
Listen closely at 3:48. Powerful
Leaving John Hagee's false church of Cornerstone, teaching of Dual Covenant Dispensationalism, can be understood.
Brucev7 Francis Chan was talking about leaving Cornerstone community church in sun Valley California. Not Cornerstone church in San Antonio Texas
We either base our 'confidence' on reason (evident probabilities, past experience, competence, etc) or we base our beliefs on faith, which is blind by definition. Faith is the most dishonest position it is possible to have, because it is an assertion of stoic conviction that is assumed without reason and defended against all reason. If you have to believe it on faith, you have no reason to believe it at all.
Confusion is the other way the devil is using to destroy people today cos so many churches with different ideas how to worship God,go to mass then you know how to worship with all your heart cos it is not about the priests or pastors is the thanks giving to our Lord for what he had done for us
@Havemirrc and by the way God told abraham WHAT HE WAS LEADING HIM TO. AND WHAT THE COVENANT WAS... He was taking him to a place where he never seen before but he knew what he was guiding him to and the promises that was lead. and yes he told the disciples to go to the world but HE TOLD THEM EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.... he didnt say go into the world and i will tell you later your assignment. but nyways i seen some videos atleast he is going to help people.. but just dont agree bout leaving CHURCH
@shannon51778 Remember though, it isn't so much Francis as God through Francis. That was one thing he stressed very heavily at Passion this year. He doesn't want the credit. He wants God to get all the glory as He should.
A pastor should never leave his church unless the followers dont want him anymore, Many use God as pretext to do something as they say God told them to do. any way God bless him and hope he has taken the right decision.
Just a question do you think Paul planting churches and moving on to plant others was wrong all through the new testament
@Wretchedvideos are you sure that's what God wants you to say? It looks to me, like Francis Chan is very concerned about serving God.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins,was buried & resurrected)you'll not perish & have eternal life
Is someone tampering with this video: What is it with the woman floating on a bed and the man's hand?
There's no tampering, they're mocking *GOD*.
*Matthew **24:11** And many false prophets shall rise, and shall Deceive Many*.
*Matthew **7:20** Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them*.
*GOD BLESS*
BalmOfGilead07 how is that mocking God? im curious to know what you mean.
He shows the scene of the girl underwater and drowning as he says "as I describe what it means to follow Jesus". Every scene is mockery.
*Revelation 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with ME in White: for they are Worthy*.
*John **7:38** He that believeth on ME, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water*.
*Revelation **21:23** And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the Glory of GOD did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof*.
*Revelation **22:11** He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is Filthy, let him be Filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still*.
*GOD BLESS*
Chan did not leave faith in Yeshua, nor did I.
wait a minute. so this man is a pastor of this big church and GOD IS TELLING HIM TO LEAVE HIS FLOCK, but yet not tell HIM WHAT HE IS DOING.. so he left without knowing what he was to do... GOD TELLS THE SHEPHARD TO LEAVE HIS SHEEP, but not telling him what how and when... wow.. i dont know bout this.. so what about the sheep... HE SHOULD ATLEAST PROVIDE BIBLICAL SUPPORT WHY HE BELIEVES GOD IS TELLING HIM.. we check the bible to see what the SPIIRIT IS SAYING. im all for leaping in faith.. but
Hey fellow god-loving people!!! Please help.
I never understood these parts in the bible... In Genesis, it sates that god separated the waters from above from the waters below with the firmament or expanse. Does this mean we have a sky ocean? Didn't they know about water evaporating, going to the sky as a gas and then returning back to the liquid phase to give us rain?
Genesis also says our moon shines its own light. We now know that the moon only reflects the light it captures from the sun.
Genesis also states that light was created before the sun was created. How is that possible at all?
Genesis also states that our sun is different from other stars. We now know that stars are just like our sun, only they are so far away they look like lights and not a sun.
Then in Revelations, a sign of the second coming of god is that the stars would fall down to earth. Since we know that stars are suns, it is impossible for them to fall to earth. The Earth would be swallowed up and destroyed immediately.
Can anyone help me with this? My love for god is hanging by a thread here. I feel like if these explanations of nature could be so wrong, then what makes it logical to continue reading the bible as it is true. What if it was all made up?
Alejandro Ocampo find an answer?
Mary Amos. All the answers I've gotten were that those passages are figurative or allegorical stories and not literal. Which really doesn't make sense because the bible, in many different places throughout the book, always claims that the word of the lord is perfect, right? So I feel that them being called figurative or allegory is just a modern excuse from religious people to turn the blind eye in the face of these errors.
Think about it. Do you think that people from 1000 - 2000 years ago believed the bible to contain some figurative stories? Or did they believe in it with 100% certainty because they didn't have the scientific discoveries yet to tell them the bible has errors?
I understand your concerns but there are genuine answers for them. I will find them and will also share my opinion on it.
Just remember, that the word of God is perfect and that if you don’t understand something then ask god to reveal it to you but you have to come with an open heart and ask god to bless you with knowledge, wisdom and understanding.
Also, remember that as long as we are on this earth, there is always something to know about god, you cannot possible know EVERYTHING about God.. so keep that in mind. That if something doesn’t always make sense right now, that it may just be one of those things you may not know in this lifetime. So don’t let it feed in your doubt or anything negative like that.
In regards to your question, I listened to a sermon about the creation story and love a couple weeks, so I’ll try and find the link and send it to you so you can listen to it and it might be able to answer some of your questions.
But remember, that God is your father so if man cannot answer your questions bring it to god and use this moment of confusion to get closer to god in prayer or while you are reading the bible
Bless ❤️❤️
Mary Amos. I'm not such a big fan of allowing pastors or junior pastors or any of the related to explain to me how they think the bible should be interpreted. Most of the explanations they provide are contorted to make sense of passages that clearly drop the ball.
My genuine conclusion is that the authors of the bible wrote the bible in a time of very little understanding of the natural world. They wrote passages like the sort I mentioned above that were riddled with errors and I find that they did this out of their own imagination and attempt in explaining natural phenomena. I don't believe that anything divine exists because of this. All the authors claim to have gotten divine inspiration, the same divine entity that created the universe. If that were true, then simple explanations of nature wouldn't be wrong. Since they are wrong, I have good reason to believe that they made up all of their information, including divine entities.
You tell me that god is my father and I should get closer to him. I truly mean this with respect: I feel that you say that from years of being told that by your elders, be it your parents or pastors or priests, and so you believe it. I'm sorry but I don't subscribe to a religious devotion dictated by my elders. I stopped that 5 years ago. What I mean is, I don't need others to tell me what I should believe, how I should believe it, and what I shouldn't believe. I can read for myself.
Well I see you have your own opinion and I understand. All I can say is, just get to know the God you serve and the good people that serve him to.
Bless x
WHY DID YOU LEAVE? HAHAHA THAT'S REAL QUICK QUESTION THO.
You guys are doing a big mistake for judging him..And many people t
Yes, like any insecure, controlling, self-absolved male, God is a jealous God, and just to trick human minds and hearts He experienced and acted upon wrath, and then made it a cardinal sin, brilliant!!
He's teaching on the basics of the faith, but isn't even in a church??
Payte Johnson
Hey there! There is a big difference between being in A church and being part of THE Church. The Church is not just a building, it is the Assembly of God as a whole. All who follow Christ with all of their heart and mind are apart of the Church. Modern churches are a great resource to grow and to study scripture more but simply being apart of one is not a criteria for being saved by the Messiah and becoming part of His Kingdom:)
Payte Johnson
I think he and fellow believers meet together in homes now, that's what he said in another video
Praying Saint Ah, gotcha. I was curious about what he does now.
Old interview. Much has happened with Francis since then.
Payte Johnson "in church"? We ARE church. He has not left the faith or fellowship. He "left the building."
Umm, no you're deceived by your own doctrine and that is why you sir are confused. Join 90% of us who see and know the truth...
Nothing blind about it? That's not true there was a lot of things he was not privy to.