Wow, that was heartwrenching, but spot on for many of us who have experienced traumatic loss. Despite us praying and pleading, declaring and proclaiming miracles in true faith, we have to accept the fact that God is sovereign and his ways aren't always ours. Tough truth. All my love to those who understand this struggle. ❤❤❤
É verdade. Eu perdi minha vó que me criou, na hora do meu noivado. Eu entendi que Deus estava me dizendo que havia chegado a hora da minha vó e que Ele não me deixaria só, pois me deixou nas mãos do meu esposo pra que ele cuidasse de mim. Essa foi uma forma de amor para me consolar. Os pensamentos dele são maiores que os nossos.
I like your comments on Jesus' confrontation with the pharisees getting more intense, and getting to see new facets of Jesus's character. I think the show has demonstrated the build up and Jesus' fiery opposition well and it continues throughout season 4. You get why the disciples are getting freaked out and it forces you to remember they don't have the foreknowledge we do.
I was shocked and saddened when Ramah was killed. It was heart wrenching, but it does resonate with people who lose their partner to death. I believe God answers all prayers: sometimes yes, sometimes no, and sometimes wait. We all want our prayers answered yes, but that is not always the best answer, even if we don’t understand it. God is good and He will always be with us.
It can be so challenging, right, to trust the God, who has proved to be trustworthy, when the answer to our prayers is not the answer we wanted. Anyone who has experienced anything like what happens in this episode would know the sting of declaring "God is good all the time", while I hope they also have known the comfort and truth of the good God during any "bad" situation.
Rama`s death was a painful scene and reminds us that suffering is not removed from those who follow Jesus. My problem with the scene is not Rama`s death but the contradictory image of Jesus that does not fit the Gospels. Jesus is pictured as standing apart and aloof from the dying or dead Rama. If the creators of the unbiblical scene had Jesus bend over and touch the dead or dying Rama with a word like you are the first of many who will give their life in following me. Rest in peace. Instead I saw an impotent Jesus who failed to communicate the need to be ready to take up your cross of death to follow me like Rama.
Great dramatic episode. Bold move for the writers. Helps explain “Doubting Thomas”. Jesus didn’t go around resurrecting people left and right. Scripture only records three occasions of Jesus resurrecting the dead. We may see Ramah resurrected when Jesus dies (Matthew 27: 50-53).
"Bold" is the word for it. Reminded me of so many other shows which I rate highly. Like them, The Chosen has the gumption to do shocking stuff. Doing so is in keeping with the reality of life and the revelations within Scripture. I know we all won't agree on The Chosen's interpretation of, and embellishment upon, God's word but I tend to appreciate the consideration involved within the evident additions made to the gospel accounts.
@@brentcooper4345 Great minds and all that, I guess. Or maybe it's just that nice feeling of being in alignment with another while on the internet. How refreshing. Heh
that's not doubting thomas. more like angry bitter thomas from now on. i didn't like the deviation from the scriptures of this subplot. now they have to deviate even more just to cater for this plot in the future, whereas it is nowhere anywhere in scripture. its just like what happens when you introduce a foreign doctrine in the christian teaching, everything else will be dilluted. the other scenes, when they stick faithfully to what really happened, makes my hair stand from the sheer beauty of it. but this ramah subplot is really pushing it too far. they need to be careful in the future...
@@wysiwygdies Your caution around how much to add or infer from Scripture is sensible. Thanks for pointing us back to God's word and weighing up what it actually reveals
I didn’t like it because I felt like it would be a problematic one in the season later down the line. It even shifts the focus later on when Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead. Like look he raised Lazarus and oh poor Thomas and the lens quickly shifts. I do believe that what they intend to do is have her be raised after the cruzification but we’ll see.
Jesus didn't doing nothing! He was there PRESENT! To easy to forget, when we ecspect miracles. But guys - he was there - with his SPIRIT - it's SOMETHING.
I Love the way you both express this episode .!!! A totally packed episode... and you catcth the struggle of Jesus in this.. and how deeply he knew he wanted to heal at that time, but as you said Laura, he sees way ahead in the timeless eternity of things, and knows it is not time....... hard to take for sure.. but it brings so much into the forefront. Quintus too isbrought foward in the most amazing acting of Bradnon Potter.. who said when he got the script he did not think he could do it.. and called Dallas to ask over and over if it had to be that way.!! Brandon deserves an Oscar for this peformance and Gauius too and all of the amazing interactinos of the cast here..!! Incredible group that God has brought together to depict the Life of Jesus...... and his disciples. YOu both are so incredible and we love it..... yes I love bringing King David in to this as well , his pain and his shame.. and his loss of his baby son. Yet David remains steadfastin his FATH he laments, prays and still knows that God is supreme...... incdreible acting on all parts and you are two incredible reviewrs and thank you , as always for this amazing talk. Hope you come on again about it soon. Blessings, Merri ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for enjoying Following the Chosen. Awesome to have you here. I like that you point out how emotional this episode must have been for the cast and crew. Imagine being Brandon Potter on-set that day! The Chosen's team is a committed bunch and they believe in what they are doing (and are not just doing it for the sake of it)
This will be the last episode of 'the chosen I watch. The writers/creators are pretty full of themselves and making Jesus look weak. John 18 says: "He did this to fulfill his own statement: “I did not lose a single one of those you have given me.”" Disturbing show now as they go against scripture and make Jesus come across as a "sub Christ"....certainly not the Christ of the gospels. Oh well, it was a pretty good run while it lasted. Peace out.
Major kudos to The Chosen writers/producers for not recoiling from all the things we experience in our human existences - no matter how hard…even devastating! Raman’s murder took me TOTALLY by surprise (& poor Thomas!), but what better way to carry Thomas to the head-space we know he gets to @ the crucifixion?! As a Believer in Christ, I have to remember what Isaiah quotes God to say in Is. 55:8: “‘For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways’ declares the Lord.” Everything I encounter, both positive AND negative, must grow my faith in Him, or it is wasted. Episode 3 was certainly hard & shocking, but no one can say the show lacks reality…or dramatic tension! 😉
Thanks for this. We have been exploring Isaiah at church and Bible study. Been eye-opening again to God's perspective on human interaction, and relationship with him. Humbling to compare the scale of God with the scale of us, and to know God's comfort and hope is still on offer to us.
Have you felt like this about other additions? Or what happens to Ramah (and other elements of this episode?) jumped off the screen as pushing the pages of the Bible too far? PS: thanks for sharing. Glad you wanted to when Laura and I discussed how we had a different reaction to you to this episode
@@TheBenmceachen I have felt similar but it’s been specifically with Ramah and Thomas’s stuff. I could at least understand the additions of Mathew’s autism to differentiate him from the apostles, and I could understand the Pharisees being named and their backgrounds. But this recent episode contradicts John 17 where Jesus specifically says he protected his disciples and none died except for Judas. I felt as if it was cheap shock value and they had no reason to add it.
@@Sm64wii I need to go back to read John 17 more closely. Thanks for the prompt back in that direction. I love that section of John's gospel (let alone others)
My name David I'm a hebrew man and u people getting it all wrong.if u truly know your Bible,you would understand why Jesus didn't heal Ramah,first of all,it not like he couldn't heal,he wasn't allow to heal her and it was his father that have stopped him from doing so.1.when Jesus started walking back, he knew that something was about to take place an it wasn't good 2.all sudden he stop and looked up like someone was he don't go any further and do not heal Ramah,it God ordering jesus not to heal Ramah.3.to maintain the scripture,Thomas wasn't marry,the only disciple that is marry is Simon Peter 4.the main reason why none of the disciple was marry except for Peter,so it will be more easier for them, to go out into the world,with no distraction or anyone holding them back for their mission.5.Ramah would had been a distraction and he wouldn't had go out into the world and preach the gossible,he would want to stay close to Ramah.6.god had already have know that,so he stop Jesus from healing her.7.just go an watch Jesus right the moment,when he first started walking back and all sudden he stop and watch his face expression,it almost like he was upset with that order an want to disobey God commandment,so trust me he was really hurt and angry,what he really wanted to do,but couldn't.now if it's done right,by Dallas Jenkins their should be a falling out between Jesus and Thomas.8.if I'm guess this right this was the beginning of Peter denialing Jesus 3 time because of the death of Ramah,so internally Peter was more angry at Jesus,that Jesus have heal the sick,the blind,the crible walk, rase the dead,and feed the multitude,but now you chose not to heal one of are own,now l question,maybe you are not the messiah.so think about it,could this be the beginning of Peter denialling Jesus,all because what he refuses to heal Ramah.well that it for now,what do think about what l had said,just keep it in mind,that it was God himself, that had stopped Jesus from healing Ramah.
Hey David. Are you working on the scriptwriting team for The Chosen? If not, you just displayed a world of thinking and reasonable speculation about the motivation behind this episode - and what it could lead on to. I know that Laura and I could have emphasised again how The Chosen has created the story of Ramah and what happens to her, and I like that you bring in what you know of Scripture to inform thoughts about what's on-screen. Actually, this is a good moment to celebrate how the Following the Chosen community frequently displays biblical insights and guidance to our reactions to The Chosen. Even when we disagree, I'm struck by our zeal for God's Word and upholding it as the revelation of Jesus Christ to follow (and not any TV show, even one that is about Jesus)
I think Thomas couldn't get married , because in the Bible he didn't have a wife none of the disciples were married except for Simon Peter. I'm sad this had to happen but I knew he wasn't going to be able to get married.
You are doing that thing that I don't tend to do as I watch The Chosen (and other shows, actually). I don't tend to think in much detail about where the show is going. And then I get surprised and impressed when you point out what is evident from the Bible, so how that would inform what The Chosen will go on to depict. Sure, I have been thinking about "doubting Thomas" but I didn't jump further ahead to his marital status. Nice to hear how Scripture is so informing your viewing.
turned me off from the series', not looking forward to the next episode. So, this man Jesus went back just to say "I'm sorry" I think I would've busted his jaw, I now can see why they turned on him.
I can see your anger but this never happened in real life, if you read the bible nowhere did it say thomas had a girl named rahma....so don't worry this never happened
Episode 4 is out now and we have some CONCERNING thoughts...
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Wow, that was heartwrenching, but spot on for many of us who have experienced traumatic loss. Despite us praying and pleading, declaring and proclaiming miracles in true faith, we have to accept the fact that God is sovereign and his ways aren't always ours. Tough truth. All my love to those who understand this struggle. ❤❤❤
É verdade. Eu perdi minha vó que me criou, na hora do meu noivado. Eu entendi que Deus estava me dizendo que havia chegado a hora da minha vó e que Ele não me deixaria só, pois me deixou nas mãos do meu esposo pra que ele cuidasse de mim. Essa foi uma forma de amor para me consolar. Os pensamentos dele são maiores que os nossos.
I like your comments on Jesus' confrontation with the pharisees getting more intense, and getting to see new facets of Jesus's character.
I think the show has demonstrated the build up and Jesus' fiery opposition well and it continues throughout season 4. You get why the disciples are getting freaked out and it forces you to remember they don't have the foreknowledge we do.
I was shocked and saddened when Ramah was killed. It was heart wrenching, but it does resonate with people who lose their partner to death. I believe God answers all prayers: sometimes yes, sometimes no, and sometimes wait. We all want our prayers answered yes, but that is not always the best answer, even if we don’t understand it. God is good and He will always be with us.
It can be so challenging, right, to trust the God, who has proved to be trustworthy, when the answer to our prayers is not the answer we wanted. Anyone who has experienced anything like what happens in this episode would know the sting of declaring "God is good all the time", while I hope they also have known the comfort and truth of the good God during any "bad" situation.
Rama`s death was a painful scene and reminds us that suffering is not removed from those who follow Jesus. My problem with the scene is not Rama`s death but the contradictory image of Jesus that does not fit the Gospels. Jesus is pictured as standing apart and aloof from the dying or dead Rama. If the creators of the unbiblical scene had Jesus bend over and touch the dead or dying Rama with a word like you are the first of many who will give their life in following me. Rest in peace. Instead I saw an impotent Jesus who failed to communicate the need to be ready to take up your cross of death to follow me like Rama.
Great dramatic episode. Bold move for the writers. Helps explain “Doubting Thomas”. Jesus didn’t go around resurrecting people left and right. Scripture only records three occasions of Jesus resurrecting the dead. We may see Ramah resurrected when Jesus dies (Matthew 27: 50-53).
"Bold" is the word for it. Reminded me of so many other shows which I rate highly. Like them, The Chosen has the gumption to do shocking stuff. Doing so is in keeping with the reality of life and the revelations within Scripture. I know we all won't agree on The Chosen's interpretation of, and embellishment upon, God's word but I tend to appreciate the consideration involved within the evident additions made to the gospel accounts.
@@TheBenmceachen well said. I agree.
@@brentcooper4345 Great minds and all that, I guess. Or maybe it's just that nice feeling of being in alignment with another while on the internet. How refreshing. Heh
that's not doubting thomas. more like angry bitter thomas from now on. i didn't like the deviation from the scriptures of this subplot. now they have to deviate even more just to cater for this plot in the future, whereas it is nowhere anywhere in scripture. its just like what happens when you introduce a foreign doctrine in the christian teaching, everything else will be dilluted. the other scenes, when they stick faithfully to what really happened, makes my hair stand from the sheer beauty of it. but this ramah subplot is really pushing it too far. they need to be careful in the future...
@@wysiwygdies Your caution around how much to add or infer from Scripture is sensible. Thanks for pointing us back to God's word and weighing up what it actually reveals
I didn’t like it because I felt like it would be a problematic one in the season later down the line. It even shifts the focus later on when Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead. Like look he raised Lazarus and oh poor Thomas and the lens quickly shifts. I do believe that what they intend to do is have her be raised after the cruzification but we’ll see.
Great insights. Enjoy listening to you guys.
Jesus didn't doing nothing! He was there PRESENT! To easy to forget, when we ecspect miracles. But guys - he was there - with his SPIRIT - it's SOMETHING.
Amen
Stay with HIM … powerful statement and declaration 🎉🎉🎉
I Love the way you both express this episode .!!! A totally packed episode... and you catcth the struggle of Jesus in this.. and how deeply he knew he wanted to heal at that time, but as you said Laura, he sees way ahead in the timeless eternity of things, and knows it is not time....... hard to take for sure.. but it brings so much into the forefront. Quintus too isbrought foward in the most amazing acting of Bradnon Potter.. who said when he got the script he did not think he could do it.. and called Dallas to ask over and over if it had to be that way.!! Brandon deserves an Oscar for this peformance and Gauius too and all of the amazing interactinos of the cast here..!! Incredible group that God has brought together to depict the Life of Jesus...... and his disciples. YOu both are so incredible and we love it..... yes I love bringing King David in to this as well , his pain and his shame.. and his loss of his baby son. Yet David remains steadfastin his FATH he laments, prays and still knows that God is supreme...... incdreible acting on all parts and you are two incredible reviewrs and thank you , as always for this amazing talk. Hope you come on again about it soon. Blessings, Merri ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for enjoying Following the Chosen. Awesome to have you here. I like that you point out how emotional this episode must have been for the cast and crew. Imagine being Brandon Potter on-set that day! The Chosen's team is a committed bunch and they believe in what they are doing (and are not just doing it for the sake of it)
This will be the last episode of 'the chosen I watch. The writers/creators are pretty full of themselves and making Jesus look weak. John 18 says: "He did this to fulfill his own statement: “I did not lose a single one of those you have given me.”" Disturbing show now as they go against scripture and make Jesus come across as a "sub Christ"....certainly not the Christ of the gospels. Oh well, it was a pretty good run while it lasted. Peace out.
Major kudos to The Chosen writers/producers for not recoiling from all the things we experience in our human existences - no matter how hard…even devastating! Raman’s murder took me TOTALLY by surprise (& poor Thomas!), but what better way to carry Thomas to the head-space we know he gets to @ the crucifixion?! As a Believer in Christ, I have to remember what Isaiah quotes God to say in Is. 55:8: “‘For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways’ declares the Lord.” Everything I encounter, both positive AND negative, must grow my faith in Him, or it is wasted. Episode 3 was certainly hard & shocking, but no one can say the show lacks reality…or dramatic tension! 😉
Thanks for this. We have been exploring Isaiah at church and Bible study. Been eye-opening again to God's perspective on human interaction, and relationship with him. Humbling to compare the scale of God with the scale of us, and to know God's comfort and hope is still on offer to us.
Really terrible episode, going way too far on adding stuff
Have you felt like this about other additions? Or what happens to Ramah (and other elements of this episode?) jumped off the screen as pushing the pages of the Bible too far? PS: thanks for sharing. Glad you wanted to when Laura and I discussed how we had a different reaction to you to this episode
@@TheBenmceachen I have felt similar but it’s been specifically with Ramah and Thomas’s stuff. I could at least understand the additions of Mathew’s autism to differentiate him from the apostles, and I could understand the Pharisees being named and their backgrounds. But this recent episode contradicts John 17 where Jesus specifically says he protected his disciples and none died except for Judas. I felt as if it was cheap shock value and they had no reason to add it.
@@Sm64wii I need to go back to read John 17 more closely. Thanks for the prompt back in that direction. I love that section of John's gospel (let alone others)
My name David I'm a hebrew man and u people getting it all wrong.if u truly know your Bible,you would understand why Jesus didn't heal Ramah,first of all,it not like he couldn't heal,he wasn't allow to heal her and it was his father that have stopped him from doing so.1.when Jesus started walking back, he knew that something was about to take place an it wasn't good 2.all sudden he stop and looked up like someone was he don't go any further and do not heal Ramah,it God ordering jesus not to heal Ramah.3.to maintain the scripture,Thomas wasn't marry,the only disciple that is marry is Simon Peter 4.the main reason why none of the disciple was marry except for Peter,so it will be more easier for them, to go out into the world,with no distraction or anyone holding them back for their mission.5.Ramah would had been a distraction and he wouldn't had go out into the world and preach the gossible,he would want to stay close to Ramah.6.god had already have know that,so he stop Jesus from healing her.7.just go an watch Jesus right the moment,when he first started walking back and all sudden he stop and watch his face expression,it almost like he was upset with that order an want to disobey God commandment,so trust me he was really hurt and angry,what he really wanted to do,but couldn't.now if it's done right,by Dallas Jenkins their should be a falling out between Jesus and Thomas.8.if I'm guess this right this was the beginning of Peter denialing Jesus 3 time because of the death of Ramah,so internally Peter was more angry at Jesus,that Jesus have heal the sick,the blind,the crible walk, rase the dead,and feed the multitude,but now you chose not to heal one of are own,now l question,maybe you are not the messiah.so think about it,could this be the beginning of Peter denialling Jesus,all because what he refuses to heal Ramah.well that it for now,what do think about what l had said,just keep it in mind,that it was God himself, that had stopped Jesus from healing Ramah.
Hey David. Are you working on the scriptwriting team for The Chosen? If not, you just displayed a world of thinking and reasonable speculation about the motivation behind this episode - and what it could lead on to. I know that Laura and I could have emphasised again how The Chosen has created the story of Ramah and what happens to her, and I like that you bring in what you know of Scripture to inform thoughts about what's on-screen. Actually, this is a good moment to celebrate how the Following the Chosen community frequently displays biblical insights and guidance to our reactions to The Chosen. Even when we disagree, I'm struck by our zeal for God's Word and upholding it as the revelation of Jesus Christ to follow (and not any TV show, even one that is about Jesus)
I think Thomas couldn't get married , because in the Bible he didn't have a wife none of the disciples were married except for Simon Peter. I'm sad this had to happen but I knew he wasn't going to be able to get married.
You are doing that thing that I don't tend to do as I watch The Chosen (and other shows, actually). I don't tend to think in much detail about where the show is going. And then I get surprised and impressed when you point out what is evident from the Bible, so how that would inform what The Chosen will go on to depict. Sure, I have been thinking about "doubting Thomas" but I didn't jump further ahead to his marital status. Nice to hear how Scripture is so informing your viewing.
turned me off from the series', not looking forward to the next episode. So, this man Jesus went back just to say "I'm sorry" I think I would've busted his jaw, I now can see why they turned on him.
I can see your anger but this never happened in real life, if you read the bible nowhere did it say thomas had a girl named rahma....so don't worry this never happened
Yeah im sure you'd fight God, because the one who defines Morality actually knows less than you. The episode isnt even biblical lol
HE'S THE MESSIAH. THE FATHER IS TELLING HIM WHAT TO DO.
@@PokiBroki EXACTLY. ALSO:"DON'T LEAN INTOO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING."THE FATHER' has other plans.
@@Sm64wii IT'S A FICTIONAL CHARACTER, IN A BOOK OF SCRIPTUAL STORIES.