@@rickyeager5762 7, 14, AND Simons. That's easily more value than the #3 pick in a draft so weak at the top. Portland can likely get a player they want at 7 and not have to bother trading up 4 spots to get them.
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Rockets are in good shape just missing a few more players. Leaving the bridge holders out - FVV, Adams, & Brooks. Bigs - Smith and Sengun. Need a third player like Sarr to rotate with them. Wings - Green, Eason and Cam. PG - Amen. Need a point guard. If Amen is a going to be a wing, then need two point guards. The question who to draft comes down to the direction the team wants to go. Bigs - Sarr is a the perfect fit as he can play both center and PF. But Sarr will most likely not be available. Clingan, like Sengun is more of a true center. As for point guard, do the Rockets want offense - Reed or defense - Castle. Knowing Ime, it is defense. If the Rockets think Amen will be a point guard for them, then they could use a wing. Risarcher would be great, but also probably not available. Assuming Sarr and Risarcher are off the table, I would draft Clingan for two reasons. 1) This is a good year for centers and he would easily slide into the backup role that Adams will soon vacate. 2) They can still trade him as the teams that missed out scramble. Personally, don't want Anfernee. Yes, he is a good player, but you could draft Reed and get a better shooter. I really think the Rockets are going to trade and are currently accepting offers. Final decision to be made draft day. Personally, I would go for Portland's 7th and 14th. Fair price for a move up to 3rd. Then draft Carter to be the backup point guard at 7 and a big at 14. Personally, a home run for me would be Topic at 7 and Edey at 14.
They need shooting more than anything. Look at the teams that made playoffs and look at the teams that were good at shooting. Basically nearly all the good shooting teams made playoffs and nearly every single bad shooting team missed the playoffs. Rockets were awful at shooting last year, so draft a shooter. And besides you already have two really good centers in Sengun and Adams anyway
Dude do you not see what Ime is doing? He is the template for Boston's success. Simons is a Derrick White, as just as athletic. He plays defense, but most coaches don't know how to use him. Ime does. They'll have size especially with Adams coming. Get ya popcorn ready.
@@AlldatJazz-rw9wy portland fan here, I love Simons and would be sad to see him go. But I’d be happy for the rockets if they do acquire him in hopefully a better deal than what was proposed here.
@@cameronkersey3150 if he doesn't get a big pay day, it will be more than what they may offer, because the idea for most players are be in a competitive environment, and unfortunately that's not in Portland at the time. I wanna see them pull it off, because Simons skills aren't being utilized in Portland. I'd hate to see him, just evaporate from the league.
None of the trade talk passes the smell test. This is an odd draft and I think the teams are as confused as we are - when there isn't clear cut information people tend to just stay the course. I think the Rockets want established players - not additional picks. I just don't see anything happening.
On a previous episode Jackson compared keeping the draft pick to Peter Griffin choosing "the mystery box". This rebuild has made me addicted to the mystery box draft outcome. We know what Anfernee Simons is but we don't know what Reed Sheppard's ceiling is! Even if Reed Sheppard is a bust, I just have to know! It is not logical, but this is what a rebuild mentality does to a fan base.
Simons plays no defense and is a one dimensional scorer and also ball dominant... Reed is great off ball spotting up a Much more efficient shooter a much better playmaker much better defender and higher iq player. Simons is only a better pure scorer and shot creator which is what the rockets don't need right now over Shep who can be a real floor general, potential to be one of the greatest shooters EVER, and make defensive plays. Its like taking Colin Sexton over FVV just not logical lol I don't even have to mention Reed being way cheaper.
Honestly, I think it should be between cam or Jalen, if they can possibly play alongside each other and be a great backcourt together matching up with Sengun and bari on the front court, this team will be scary. Just need that big man rim protector and I think we could be set for a long run this season, at least 1st round, hoping for WCF
@whatnow5847 I was saying no thanks from Portland's perspective. That's way too rich it's generally perceived to be a very flat draft from two 15 ish. That would be great for you guys but don't think that happens. I would send you brog 34 and 14 for 3. That's about the most I would do.
This would make no sense for two reasons. 1. If the hawks want Clingen, than they would trade down with the spurs because he would be available at 4. Clingen going fist is just unlikely. 2. The wizards would only trade down with the spurs, if Sarr was already picked by the Hawks. So the scenario where the hawks pick Clingen #1 is unlickely because they would just trade down with the spurs. And if the Hawks would decide to draft Clingen, than the wizards would not trade there pick with the spurs because it seems like they like Sarr the most. They would only trade their pick if Sarr was already picked. There is just no chance Sarr gets passed the wizards
If Sarr doesn't fall to #3 OR Houston doesn't trade up to #1 for Sarr (assuming Atlanta wants Clingan), I really like Sheppard. If the pick is Sheppard, I'm hoping Ime & Staff can coach up his point-of-attack defense and Defensive Physicality (Sheppard routinely shies away from contact on defense). Sheppard tested well in lateral drills at the NBA Combine, and a 42" inch vertical is very encouraging. I'm Excited to see who Houston picks on June 26.
Kevin O'Conner is delusional. If there's any truth behind this, it's that Portland inquired about the 3rd pick, Houston responded with that ask, and Portland said HELL NAH.
Everyone in Portland was talking about that trade too. People were furious with that guy most people inside organizations think Simon's is probably worth two first and a young flyer. That's the most lopsided ridiculous trade I've heard in quite some time. I'm glad you took the realistic approach and discuss some things that might actually happen.
Not getting both but the 14 and other vets to help push for a playoff run like grant thybull brog and rob would be throw in to either keep or trade for other stuff elsewhere. Could involve simons but no way they dump both picks and keep all these old guys except for thybull and rob
Man, it is so many scenarios and talk out there that anything could happen at any given time. Who knows? Only the lord knows what the Rockets will be doing.
The Rockets just need to go Sheppard (or Sarr if available) and call it a day. If they can pull a nice deal for Knecht and more draft capital, I'd be okay with that as well.
Size doesn't matter, he's amazing at getting steals and defensive playmaking he'll be a better defender than FVV definitely while having potential to be a top 3 shooter in the league
@@KerryWilliams-wf4dnwho cares about that though? There are plenty of small successful NBA players like Conley, Steph, FVV, Garland, Mitchell, Simons, Nash etc.. Small players that are insanely skilled do really well in the NBA meanwhile we have super athletes that bust every draft cycle like Johnny Flynn who was taken ahead of Steph Curry due to having better athleticism. The Rockets have plenty of size and athleticism. But they lack skill, so bring in the thing that is lacking rather than emphasizing the same archetype of player past the point of diminishing returns
@@greglyon1402 I think they trade up to #2 for Sheppard. Best shooter in 20 years who can defend and run offense is a no brainer. They’re a smart front office. Rockets aren’t.
@kingmoz. No we are not trading up to #2. There's no sense in that. IF Atlanta does not take Sarr Which is entirely possible considering the guy will not work out in Atlanta at all then they either are gonna move to ZR or Clingan. Let's say Atlanta takes Clingan.....then Washington gets Sarr then Houston gets their turn.... Who you gonna take then.
Everything ive said the SA TRADES Sarr falling and the rockets might just blow it all are on the table i never saw the simons trade coming ... but its getting interesting quickly long as the 🚀 keep quiet they keep the leverage and we good with all options rt now except just pocking another wing because 3 n D
If they bring in Simons, Ime is building his template he had in Boston. Simons is about the same size as White for Boston and can do the same things. They'll get bigs, they got Adams, and move Alpi to pf, you have a squad. A squad that can play and defend.
Ok call me crazy but I have somewhat of a change of heart let’s draft Reed Shepard and Big man from Indiana Kel el Wear this could be a win-win situation check him out!!!
Great pod Jackson. the closer we get to the draft the more i'm starting to feel the Rockets will trade the pick. I agree with you Jackson. Sheppard doesn't fit the normal Rockets draft profile in that his physical abilities don't jump off the chart. which makes me believe they will pass on him. Clingan and Risacher have drawn so much interest at the top of this draft that it has increased the teams trying to move up to acquire one of them. IMO the Rockets are sizing up these offers and will likely take the best deal draft night unless Sar falls to them. Simons #7 and #14 is a bit of out of line, but Simons and only #7 for #3 isn't IMO. if we can get Simons and take #7 and draft Knecht, that is a steal IMO. while Portland wants to move up don't forget Memphis and Chicago do to, and thats just the ones we know about. with that many teams inquiring about the pick it becomes more likely the Rockets find a deal that interest them and move the pick. what that deal looks like is anybody's guess, but I got this feeling a deal is in the works.
SImons plus 7 to move up 4 spots in this draft absolutely is not realistic in the slightest. Its an absolute joke lol. It costs another future first to make that move. Not a near all star 22+ppg 40%3pt shooter on a great contract who can be traded for 2 firsts and a young player on his own. LOL fantasy world rockets fans
@@grapeape1965 the difference is how we view Simons. I don't view him as an allstar or an almost allstar. however in any case the Rockets can live with or without him which makes giving up 2 first a none starter for the Rockets
I have Clingan at 13 on my board because I don’t value drop bigs as much as players who can play more than 20 to 3 minutes. I would trade down if they want Clingan and he could be there at 3,4 or later. I like Stephon Castle or Sarr who are more likely to be Starrs.
As a Blazers fan, I agree that would be an absolutely massive overpay for #3. IF Risacher falls to 3, which I doubt happens... Simons, #14, #34 & #40 is the most I'm offering, if I'm Joe Cronin. Take it or leave it. I haven't looked much into what salary would be coming back from HOU though.
I hated to hear you say there are no takers yet for the 3rd pick yet that you know of. Here's a look at who they have brought in, according to Rookie Wire insider Cody Taylor. N’Faly Dante, Oregon C Marcus Domask, Illinois SF Trentyn Flowers, Adelaide 36ers (NBL) SF DJ Horne, NC State* PG Mark Sears, Alabama PG Jamal Shead, Houston PG Isaiah Stevens, Colorado State PG Tyler Thomas, Hofstra G Rockets have not worked out a player worthy of a #3 pick. Maybe that suggests the Rockets have a trade in place already. Probably the #3 pick and filler for Marcus Smart. Just my own guess. We already got Adams and Brooks from them. Smart only played 20 games for the Grizzlies because of injury.
I swear if they bring in Smart who can’t shoot and is washed, I’m gonna hurl. If they do that it means that anything they don’t give a shit about shooting despite that fact that almost every good shooting team made playoffs while nearly every bad shooting team missed playoffs
Respectfully, it’s tough to get excited about a 6’2” white boy with the 3rd pick (I’ll say it). BUT he’s growing on me after some tape… RS is serviceable on D, playmaking upside and almost immediately becomes a top 10 shooter in the league. He’s exactly what we need - think he’ll make for an elite 6 man. All you can ask out of this draft…
It feels like they're trying to trade down for Dalton Knecht (or some other lower rated prospect). Ultimately, if thats who they like most they should do it at whatever pick they have. Just look back at how Warriors didnt get Ty Haliburton at 2 because they couldnt trade back even though they liked him more. I get the concern about Knechts age, but Jalen Williams for OKC came out as a Junior and has been a stud immediately.
If Sarr is really right there for the taking at #3 then the true big man is back in Houston. I personally would love the addition of size to make us more of a threat so teams don’t take advantage of us on defense with Sarr guarding the rim
The Rockets NEED to draft a shooter. The Rockets ranked 23rd in 3pt % which is awful. Only 2 out of 16 teams (Cleveland and Orlando) made playoffs without decent shooting, while the other 14 were at least average at shooting. Only 1 team in the top ten for shooting failed to make playoffs and that was Golden State. Case in point: No Shooting = No Playoffs This team needs shooting. Drafting another guy especially at the wing that cannot space the floor will mean that the offense will fail next year. Also you CANNOT rely on FA to bring in a shooter because guys in FA may not want to come to Houston for a multitude of reasons such as money, minutes etc… Just draft Reed or trade down for Knecht
ofc they would, it does not take a player the worth of simons to move up from 7 to the 3 in this draft, or nearly any draft besides a handful EVER tbh. That trade is still a complete joke and portland would NEVER offer that
lmao hell no what are you rockets fans smoking. The 3rd pick in a good draft doesnt get you that, much less in this draft that everyone wants to trade out of and doesnt have any big time prospect even at the top much less 3. LOL come on
I love the idea of reed Sheppard but I just wish he was just more of a true point guard. We thought amen had pg handles but he doesn't. What if reed doesn't either. Not a good draft, but that has been said.
Blazer fan here, it seems like Anfernee has to much value to them to pull of a trade like that. However, you want Brogdon + 7 + 14 for 3? Now we’re talkin 😂🙏🏽
You don't want Sheppard (6'3", 180) because he's undersized, and you worry about his defense. But you want Simons (6'3", 180) who is an undersized guard, who doesn't play defense....and pay him 28 million a year. Ok.
While KOC is "plugged in" I watched that vid and he is really just echoing the fact that Simons might be traded. The laughable return was just him not giving it much thought or knowing little about the Blazers. If you really want someone "plugged in" to the Blazers look to Jonathan Givony, as he and Mike Schmitz (Blazers Asst GM) are very close. 😄
I think this is Jabari Smith all over again, where he was the consensus 1st pick of the draft, then it changes in the last minute because of the gambling involvement. There were a lot of smokescreens right before the draft and the rockets were projected to draft PB at that time. Funny thing is that we also own the 3rd pick at that time.
simons 7 and 14 is a lot i can only see this happening is sarr is there at 3 and the blazers love sarr and think he is generational talent ....simons ,knecht,edey
Reed Sheppard scored only 3 points in the NCAA tournament and you guys want him at 3, give me a break. Nobody wants a 6'1 point guard that can't even create. Jamal Shead will be drafted by the Rockets if available in the second round.
Do you want this team to be a bottom ten shooting team indefinitely. Sengun, Amen, Jalen etc are all guys that can’t shoot so you need players that can compensate for their weaknesses in that department. Holland does the exact opposite. Not only does Holland have such a weak jumper that teams will wall off the paint and let him clank a 3s all day. But he also has major tunnel vision and is an ineffective playmaker, and his defense is not particularly great either
ofc you would lol, Portland wouldn't trade simons plus 7 for 3. It does not cost all that to move up 4 spots in this draft, or any other draft outside of a handful EVER, LMAO. WHat a joke haha
Three team deal. The Rockets trade Jalen Green to the Kings for Kevin Hueter and pick 13. The Bulls trade Zack Lavine to the Rockets. The Bulks get Kevin Huet er., Dillon Brooks, and Tate, Lindell and the 13th
Don't want Zack. Green is an unbelievable talent and is just graduating college (or would be). Rockets are three years away from contending. Let the pot cook.
This is a hardcore L take. Let’s just look at the FACTS: Reed as a Freshman: Had 4.5 assists with 2 TO and 2.5 steals per game on 54/52/83 splits in 29 minutes per game. Also had a defensive box plus minus of 5.0 Jimmer as a Senior: Had 4.3 assists with 3.5 TO and 1.3 steals on 45/39.6/89 splits. Defensive BPM was 0.8 Reed is a lot younger and a lot more efficient than Jimmer was both as a shooter and as a passer on top of being a much better defender than Jimmer as well.
@@juniorgarcia9292 I agree, someone they love has to be there. I would do the trade even if Sarr is there. 7 could be Williams and 14 Ware. Or Topic who sits out a year and then Ware @ 14. A chance to get cheap role players is valuable. Simons only has two years so this year off the bench and next year takes FVV spot. I mean, Simons, Green, Amen, Bari, Sengun with Dillon, Cam, Tari, Ware, Topic/Sheppard/Dillingham off the bench sounds pretty nice.
Opinions on 4 team trade idea Portland receives: Jabari Smith Jr Anthony Black Jett Howard Orlando’s 2024 FRP #18 Orlando’s 2025 unprotected FRP Cleveland’s 2025 unprotected second round pick Houston’s 2026 FRP via Brooklyn Orlando’s 2027 SRP via Boston Houston’s 2027 SRP via Memphis Cleveland’s unprotected 2028 SRP Houston receives: Darius Garland Max Strus Wendell Carter Jr Portland’s 2024 FRP #7 Portland’s 2024 SRP #40 Cleveland receives: Jerami Grant Malcom Brogdon Orlando’s 2024 SRP # 47 Orlando receives: Fred VanVleet Anfernee Simons Houston’s 2027 FRP swap rights with Brooklyn Blazers finally commit to young core. Trading away talented veterans so the younger players can get minutes on the court. This team will never contend as is, a imminent blow up is obvious. Compensated with promising young players and a slew of picks. Rockets hand the keys over to Darius Garland. Rockets acquire a young and talented point guard to be a corner stone of a rebuild. They currently have the #3 pick in the draft and this trade nets them #7 as well. They could keep the picks and go all in on a youth movement or they could look to double dip and flip some new assets for Mikal Bridges after this trade is finished. Cleveland onboards new talent. Obviously the pair of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland didn’t workout. Cleveland gets deeper by landing two legitimate NBA caliber starters in Grant and Brogdon. This team desperately needs wing play and Jeremi Grant can provide that. Landing Malcom Brogdon allows Donovan Mitchell to play off ball and conserve energy and not run himself ragged trying to do everything. Both players shoot the deep ball well and stretch the floor. With the 47th pick they can scoop up Bronny James and potentially get both James Sr and Jr in a return to Cleveland. Orlando gets a brand new talented backcourt. Orlando is building something great. The two way play is exciting to watch. Fred VanVleet is a underrated defender and very skilled point guard with veteran experience that this team needs and Anfernee Simons is the offensive firepower answer.
Portland would trade #7 & #14, if they could get Clingan. I really like Sheppard but his lack of size and wingspan make him a defensive liability. Opposing teams will hunt Sheppard (There's a Reason Payton Pritchard very few minutes in the NBA Finals). Sheppard was routinely getting beaten at the point-of-attack at Kentucky. Alex Sarr needs to be developed offensively but he does fit Ime's defensive culture. Castle lacks the athleticism to be a NBA-level shot creator, he's a poor shooter, and he's an average playmaker (Sheppard has innate & better playmaking skills than Castle). If Alex Sarr doesn't fall to #3, I really hope Houston trades the Pick, and just target the awesome upcoming prospects in the 2025 Draft.
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Portland wouldn’t do that trade. In what seems to be an awful draft giving up essentially 4 FRP for number 3 is ridiculous.
Some of these "trade" offers are just dumb
Its contingent on Sarr being available at 3. Then POR should do it.
If it's Simons, 7, and 14, then it's going to be something more valuable than just 3 coming back.
I feel the same
Probably not.
What do you want to throw in Je'san Tate??? Cause honestly 7,14= #3
I don't agree !!!! I think Clingan and Sheppard are both ready to play right away
@@rickyeager5762 7, 14, AND Simons. That's easily more value than the #3 pick in a draft so weak at the top. Portland can likely get a player they want at 7 and not have to bother trading up 4 spots to get them.
Trail Blazers fan here. If we do this trade I’m switching teams and giving up all faith in the Blazers organization.
Fr, if they trade simons 7 & 14 for 3, we riot.
If this goes down I’m done with the Blazers!
If that happens there will be a beheading in Pioneer Square 😂
You can rest assured that that ludicrous trade idea that koc came up with is as unlikely as it is laughable. NO chance that happens...
Come on bro Help Houston out and give up Simons
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Rockets are in good shape just missing a few more players. Leaving the bridge holders out - FVV, Adams, & Brooks. Bigs - Smith and Sengun. Need a third player like Sarr to rotate with them. Wings - Green, Eason and Cam. PG - Amen. Need a point guard. If Amen is a going to be a wing, then need two point guards. The question who to draft comes down to the direction the team wants to go. Bigs - Sarr is a the perfect fit as he can play both center and PF. But Sarr will most likely not be available. Clingan, like Sengun is more of a true center. As for point guard, do the Rockets want offense - Reed or defense - Castle. Knowing Ime, it is defense. If the Rockets think Amen will be a point guard for them, then they could use a wing. Risarcher would be great, but also probably not available.
Assuming Sarr and Risarcher are off the table, I would draft Clingan for two reasons. 1) This is a good year for centers and he would easily slide into the backup role that Adams will soon vacate. 2) They can still trade him as the teams that missed out scramble. Personally, don't want Anfernee. Yes, he is a good player, but you could draft Reed and get a better shooter. I really think the Rockets are going to trade and are currently accepting offers. Final decision to be made draft day. Personally, I would go for Portland's 7th and 14th. Fair price for a move up to 3rd. Then draft Carter to be the backup point guard at 7 and a big at 14. Personally, a home run for me would be Topic at 7 and Edey at 14.
The Rockets will pick a big. Athleticism and length. The Rockets need to add size we are too short. We need a shot blocking big.
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They need shooting more than anything. Look at the teams that made playoffs and look at the teams that were good at shooting. Basically nearly all the good shooting teams made playoffs and nearly every single bad shooting team missed the playoffs.
Rockets were awful at shooting last year, so draft a shooter. And besides you already have two really good centers in Sengun and Adams anyway
Dude do you not see what Ime is doing? He is the template for Boston's success. Simons is a Derrick White, as just as athletic. He plays defense, but most coaches don't know how to use him. Ime does. They'll have size especially with Adams coming. Get ya popcorn ready.
@@AlldatJazz-rw9wy portland fan here, I love Simons and would be sad to see him go. But I’d be happy for the rockets if they do acquire him in hopefully a better deal than what was proposed here.
@@cameronkersey3150 if he doesn't get a big pay day, it will be more than what they may offer, because the idea for most players are be in a competitive environment, and unfortunately that's not in Portland at the time. I wanna see them pull it off, because Simons skills aren't being utilized in Portland. I'd hate to see him, just evaporate from the league.
None of the trade talk passes the smell test. This is an odd draft and I think the teams are as confused as we are - when there isn't clear cut information people tend to just stay the course. I think the Rockets want established players - not additional picks. I just don't see anything happening.
No gone lie I like Sam Hauser from the Celtics he showed me something in the finals, knock down shooter and played some solid defense against Luka
On a previous episode Jackson compared keeping the draft pick to Peter Griffin choosing "the mystery box". This rebuild has made me addicted to the mystery box draft outcome. We know what Anfernee Simons is but we don't know what Reed Sheppard's ceiling is! Even if Reed Sheppard is a bust, I just have to know! It is not logical, but this is what a rebuild mentality does to a fan base.
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I agree. If you are going short, draft Reed. Better shooter.
Simons just averaged 22ppg and is only 25 years old he is 100000% the better choice over Reed Shepard
Simons plays no defense and is a one dimensional scorer and also ball dominant... Reed is great off ball spotting up a Much more efficient shooter a much better playmaker much better defender and higher iq player. Simons is only a better pure scorer and shot creator which is what the rockets don't need right now over Shep who can be a real floor general, potential to be one of the greatest shooters EVER, and make defensive plays. Its like taking Colin Sexton over FVV just not logical lol I don't even have to mention Reed being way cheaper.
Al P definitely deserves an extension. Jalen I'd wait.
All of them will get an extension
Sengun hasn’t made an all star game yet he doesn’t deserve an extension yet
Sengun is our franchise guy 💯
@@KerryWilliams-wf4dn LMAO at being this stupid, thinking thats how rookie extensions work hahaaha
I wouldn’t do either. Save the cap space for next season then give new contract
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Honestly, I think it should be between cam or Jalen, if they can possibly play alongside each other and be a great backcourt together matching up with Sengun and bari on the front court, this team will be scary. Just need that big man rim protector and I think we could be set for a long run this season, at least 1st round, hoping for WCF
Trade back and get Edey or Ware. I will take Simon's or Brogden and 1 of Portland's picks and still get one of those bigs
Yeah, it is either #14 and Simon and or #7 and Brogden.
@greglyon1402 no thanks
@@rjejames28 what would you like to see Houston do with the 3rd pick?
@whatnow5847 I was saying no thanks from Portland's perspective. That's way too rich it's generally perceived to be a very flat draft from two 15 ish. That would be great for you guys but don't think that happens. I would send you brog 34 and 14 for 3. That's about the most I would do.
@@rjejames28 i would still take that for Houston. If Rockets can pick up a legit back up pg and still get Edey or Ware for a young big.
This would make no sense for two reasons.
1. If the hawks want Clingen, than they would trade down with the spurs because he would be available at 4. Clingen going fist is just unlikely.
2. The wizards would only trade down with the spurs, if Sarr was already picked by the Hawks.
So the scenario where the hawks pick Clingen #1 is unlickely because they would just trade down with the spurs. And if the Hawks would decide to draft Clingen, than the wizards would not trade there pick with the spurs because it seems like they like Sarr the most. They would only trade their pick if Sarr was already picked.
There is just no chance Sarr gets passed the wizards
Would the Rockets consider something with the Bulls like #3 for Caruso, #11 and the Portland protected 1st?
If Sarr doesn't fall to #3 OR Houston doesn't trade up to #1 for Sarr (assuming Atlanta wants Clingan), I really like Sheppard. If the pick is Sheppard, I'm hoping Ime & Staff can coach up his point-of-attack defense and Defensive Physicality (Sheppard routinely shies away from contact on defense). Sheppard tested well in lateral drills at the NBA Combine, and a 42" inch vertical is very encouraging. I'm Excited to see who Houston picks on June 26.
Simons 7&14 is f’ing ridiculous and never happening.
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Kevin O'Conner is delusional.
If there's any truth behind this, it's that Portland inquired about the 3rd pick, Houston responded with that ask, and Portland said HELL NAH.
Everyone in Portland was talking about that trade too. People were furious with that guy most people inside organizations think Simon's is probably worth two first and a young flyer. That's the most lopsided ridiculous trade I've heard in quite some time. I'm glad you took the realistic approach and discuss some things that might actually happen.
I really want Sarr, but I feel like no matter what we do with the third pick it will still improve the team
You can’t play both Sarr and Sengun at the same time. Both are poor shooters. Maybe trade sengun?
Not getting both but the 14 and other vets to help push for a playoff run like grant thybull brog and rob would be throw in to either keep or trade for other stuff elsewhere. Could involve simons but no way they dump both picks and keep all these old guys except for thybull and rob
Man, it is so many scenarios and talk out there that anything could happen at any given time. Who knows? Only the lord knows what the Rockets will be doing.
The Rockets just need to go Sheppard (or Sarr if available) and call it a day. If they can pull a nice deal for Knecht and more draft capital, I'd be okay with that as well.
Shepard is 6’1 180 pounds and only 19 years old. Rockets need a win now player not another project
Size doesn't matter, he's amazing at getting steals and defensive playmaking he'll be a better defender than FVV definitely while having potential to be a top 3 shooter in the league
@@KerryWilliams-wf4dnwho cares about that though? There are plenty of small successful NBA players like Conley, Steph, FVV, Garland, Mitchell, Simons, Nash etc..
Small players that are insanely skilled do really well in the NBA meanwhile we have super athletes that bust every draft cycle like Johnny Flynn who was taken ahead of Steph Curry due to having better athleticism.
The Rockets have plenty of size and athleticism. But they lack skill, so bring in the thing that is lacking rather than emphasizing the same archetype of player past the point of diminishing returns
@@alecfranklin3827 imagine counting on a skinny 19-year-old rookie to be your skill guy…
@@AnimeBronxThe Spurs did!!!! His name was Tony Parker
Getting Knecht and Edey would be hilarious.
Can keep Edey , you might like him me not at all
Knecht ???? Haven't seen him yet??? What team is he on???
@@rickyeager5762Kimect offense is even better now than Jabari
If the spurs are telling people they want Risacher, they probably actually want Castle or Sheppard
#4 pick - Castle. Bank on it unless the Spurs trade up for Risacher.
@@greglyon1402 I think they trade up to #2 for Sheppard. Best shooter in 20 years who can defend and run offense is a no brainer. They’re a smart front office. Rockets aren’t.
It's not that the Rockets aren't smart !!! It's more a we already got a guy we don't need him!!!! Even though we need shooting desperately
@@rickyeager5762 we already got a guy who does what Reed does? Who are you talking about?
@kingmoz.
No we are not trading up to #2. There's no sense in that.
IF Atlanta does not take Sarr Which is entirely possible considering the guy will not work out in Atlanta at all then they either are gonna move to ZR or Clingan.
Let's say Atlanta takes Clingan.....then Washington gets Sarr then Houston gets their turn.... Who you gonna take then.
With 7 and 14 we could possibly even still get Reed Sheppard and then use 14 to pick somebody like Kel'el Ware or Zach Edey.
Everything ive said the SA TRADES Sarr falling and the rockets might just blow it all are on the table i never saw the simons trade coming ... but its getting interesting quickly long as the 🚀 keep quiet they keep the leverage and we good with all options rt now except just pocking another wing because 3 n D
Great show as always and Go Rockets!
dbrooks +3 for brogdon 7 and 14 is a great trade also imo give cam and eason more playing time
lmao its dog shit for portland
If they bring in Simons, Ime is building his template he had in Boston. Simons is about the same size as White for Boston and can do the same things. They'll get bigs, they got Adams, and move Alpi to pf, you have a squad. A squad that can play and defend.
Ok call me crazy but I have somewhat of a change of heart let’s draft Reed Shepard and Big man from Indiana Kel el Wear this could be a win-win situation check him out!!!
Great pod Jackson. the closer we get to the draft the more i'm starting to feel the Rockets will trade the pick. I agree with you Jackson. Sheppard doesn't fit the normal Rockets draft profile in that his physical abilities don't jump off the chart. which makes me believe they will pass on him. Clingan and Risacher have drawn so much interest at the top of this draft that it has increased the teams trying to move up to acquire one of them. IMO the Rockets are sizing up these offers and will likely take the best deal draft night unless Sar falls to them. Simons #7 and #14 is a bit of out of line, but Simons and only #7 for #3 isn't IMO. if we can get Simons and take #7 and draft Knecht, that is a steal IMO. while Portland wants to move up don't forget Memphis and Chicago do to, and thats just the ones we know about. with that many teams inquiring about the pick it becomes more likely the Rockets find a deal that interest them and move the pick. what that deal looks like is anybody's guess, but I got this feeling a deal is in the works.
would you take lonzo ?
@@naevon29comanches based on his injury history NO. in fact Chicago is a long shot IMO. I think Portland is probably the front runner
SImons plus 7 to move up 4 spots in this draft absolutely is not realistic in the slightest. Its an absolute joke lol. It costs another future first to make that move. Not a near all star 22+ppg 40%3pt shooter on a great contract who can be traded for 2 firsts and a young player on his own. LOL fantasy world rockets fans
@@grapeape1965 the difference is how we view Simons. I don't view him as an allstar or an almost allstar. however in any case the Rockets can live with or without him which makes giving up 2 first a none starter for the Rockets
I have Clingan at 13 on my board because I don’t value drop bigs as much as players who can play more than 20 to 3 minutes. I would trade down if they want Clingan and he could be there at 3,4 or later. I like Stephon Castle or Sarr who are more likely to be Starrs.
As a Blazers fan, I agree that would be an absolutely massive overpay for #3. IF Risacher falls to 3, which I doubt happens... Simons, #14, #34 & #40 is the most I'm offering, if I'm Joe Cronin. Take it or leave it. I haven't looked much into what salary would be coming back from HOU though.
Even that's a huge overpay
@@rjejames28hilarious you would think that’s an overpay in this draft if you are getting Risacher
@@Chris-kk6cw yea I that's an extreme overpay, I think 99 percent would feel that way.
I hated to hear you say there are no takers yet for the 3rd pick yet that you know of. Here's a look at who they have brought in, according to Rookie Wire insider Cody Taylor.
N’Faly Dante, Oregon C
Marcus Domask, Illinois SF
Trentyn Flowers, Adelaide 36ers (NBL) SF
DJ Horne, NC State* PG
Mark Sears, Alabama PG
Jamal Shead, Houston PG
Isaiah Stevens, Colorado State PG
Tyler Thomas, Hofstra G
Rockets have not worked out a player worthy of a #3 pick. Maybe that suggests the Rockets have a trade in place already. Probably the #3 pick and filler for Marcus Smart. Just my own guess. We already got Adams and Brooks from them. Smart only played 20 games for the Grizzlies because of injury.
I swear if they bring in Smart who can’t shoot and is washed, I’m gonna hurl. If they do that it means that anything they don’t give a shit about shooting despite that fact that almost every good shooting team made playoffs while nearly every bad shooting team missed playoffs
That's such a bad trade I hope not for your guys sake
Great content Jackson! Sarr as a shot blocker would be great next to Sengun
Respectfully, it’s tough to get excited about a 6’2” white boy with the 3rd pick (I’ll say it). BUT he’s growing on me after some tape…
RS is serviceable on D, playmaking upside and almost immediately becomes a top 10 shooter in the league. He’s exactly what we need - think he’ll make for an elite 6 man. All you can ask out of this draft…
It feels like they're trying to trade down for Dalton Knecht (or some other lower rated prospect). Ultimately, if thats who they like most they should do it at whatever pick they have. Just look back at how Warriors didnt get Ty Haliburton at 2 because they couldnt trade back even though they liked him more. I get the concern about Knechts age, but Jalen Williams for OKC came out as a Junior and has been a stud immediately.
Jalen williams has been in the NBA for 2 years and he is 5 days older than Knecht lol
If Sarr is really right there for the taking at #3 then the true big man is back in Houston. I personally would love the addition of size to make us more of a threat so teams don’t take advantage of us on defense with Sarr guarding the rim
Simons is a knockdown shooter
Philly is offering their first this year and a future first for Simons straight up. That helps Portland shed money. I’d do that I a heartbeat
The Rockets NEED to draft a shooter. The Rockets ranked 23rd in 3pt % which is awful.
Only 2 out of 16 teams (Cleveland and Orlando) made playoffs without decent shooting, while the other 14 were at least average at shooting.
Only 1 team in the top ten for shooting failed to make playoffs and that was Golden State.
Case in point: No Shooting = No Playoffs
This team needs shooting. Drafting another guy especially at the wing that cannot space the floor will mean that the offense will fail next year. Also you CANNOT rely on FA to bring in a shooter because guys in FA may not want to come to Houston for a multitude of reasons such as money, minutes etc…
Just draft Reed or trade down for Knecht
Draft Clingan because we don't want to depend on Jock plus we don't know how healthy Adams is going to be.
Rockets would be happy if they offer #7 + simons for #3 + fillers already, and even better if Reed Sheppard was available at #7
ofc they would, it does not take a player the worth of simons to move up from 7 to the 3 in this draft, or nearly any draft besides a handful EVER tbh. That trade is still a complete joke and portland would NEVER offer that
Lets go Rockets! 🚀 🚀
Atl is taking Sarr. If they dont their fan base will explode
Agree
i saw a rumor that the wizards are thinking of drafting reed sheppard at 2
13:40 Jackson maybe it's a 3 team trade add Brooklyn they get Simmons we get Bridges
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lmao hell no what are you rockets fans smoking. The 3rd pick in a good draft doesnt get you that, much less in this draft that everyone wants to trade out of and doesnt have any big time prospect even at the top much less 3. LOL come on
@@grapeape1965I think you misread. He was talking about Bridges, not prime Michael Jordan. Hope that helps.
@@JeffreyVerretSimon's probably gets two first round picks and maybe a player. Bridges probably gets three first and maybe a player
I'd only do it as a blazers fan if we got Smith Jr or Whitmore
Go, Rockets! Can't wait for the draft and new season!
same here especially the draft because I know no matter who they take I'll be happy. I'm just anxious to see who it will be.
I think it'd be fucked up to extend Jalen and not Alpi just because you can save a few million. It should be either both get one or neither do.
Just trade both
I love the idea of reed Sheppard but I just wish he was just more of a true point guard. We thought amen had pg handles but he doesn't. What if reed doesn't either. Not a good draft, but that has been said.
Alpy passed the eye test going into the draft.
Blazer fan here, it seems like Anfernee has to much value to them to pull of a trade like that.
However, you want Brogdon + 7 + 14 for 3? Now we’re talkin 😂🙏🏽
Analytics didn’t include Udoka. That’s the difference.
Go Rockets!
The one move that would make sense for the Rockets package of the third and the 44 pic and Jason Tate to Atlanta for the first pick bar none
Let's go Rockets
You don't want Sheppard (6'3", 180) because he's undersized, and you worry about his defense. But you want Simons (6'3", 180) who is an undersized guard, who doesn't play defense....and pay him 28 million a year. Ok.
Sheppard is 6'1
@kevinjennings9303 He's 6'1.75" without shoes...Donovan Mitchell is shorter than that.
The fact you think he can't play defense clearly shows you never seen him play. He will be fine.
You caught that logic too?
Simons 6’4-6’5
How about Jerami + 14 for 3 and Jabari
no
KEEP THE FUCKING PICK
It's really that simple
While KOC is "plugged in" I watched that vid and he is really just echoing the fact that Simons might be traded. The laughable return was just him not giving it much thought or knowing little about the Blazers. If you really want someone "plugged in" to the Blazers look to Jonathan Givony, as he and Mike Schmitz (Blazers Asst GM) are very close. 😄
Trade down in draft pick up Zack Edney you can’t teach size and have him workout w dream Sengun and Steven Adams
I think this is Jabari Smith all over again, where he was the consensus 1st pick of the draft, then it changes in the last minute because of the gambling involvement. There were a lot of smokescreens right before the draft and the rockets were projected to draft PB at that time. Funny thing is that we also own the 3rd pick at that time.
I love Smith. Already a 14/8 guy. Will soon be a 20/10. Rather have him than Pablo.
@@greglyon1402I mean Paolo just made All Star team. He’s a legit star while Jabari is more of a high quality role player
simons 7 and 14 is a lot i can only see this happening is sarr is there at 3 and the blazers love sarr and think he is generational talent ....simons ,knecht,edey
I think Stone should trade up to 1 & grab Sarr🚀
Geaux Rockets!
Reed Sheppard scored only 3 points in the NCAA tournament and you guys want him at 3, give me a break. Nobody wants a 6'1 point guard that can't even create. Jamal Shead will be drafted by the Rockets if available in the second round.
The should give Ron Holland and Terrance Shannon Jr. a look
Not at 3.
Do you want this team to be a bottom ten shooting team indefinitely. Sengun, Amen, Jalen etc are all guys that can’t shoot so you need players that can compensate for their weaknesses in that department. Holland does the exact opposite.
Not only does Holland have such a weak jumper that teams will wall off the paint and let him clank a 3s all day. But he also has major tunnel vision and is an ineffective playmaker, and his defense is not particularly great either
I think if Sarr is off the board I’d even take the Portland trade even if it was just Simmons plus #7🤷♂️
ofc you would lol, Portland wouldn't trade simons plus 7 for 3. It does not cost all that to move up 4 spots in this draft, or any other draft outside of a handful EVER, LMAO. WHat a joke haha
Three team deal. The Rockets trade Jalen Green to the Kings for Kevin Hueter and pick 13. The Bulls trade Zack Lavine to the Rockets. The Bulks get Kevin Huet er., Dillon Brooks, and Tate, Lindell and the 13th
ur not a rockets fan
Fuck no
Don't want Zack. Green is an unbelievable talent and is just graduating college (or would be). Rockets are three years away from contending. Let the pot cook.
Go Rockets
I think Sarr will fall and when he does that will be a great thing. Blazers can keep Simons. Rockets aren't trading that pick
Reed Sheppard is Jimmer Fredette
I also don't think Reed is good. He's a backup at best. Not worth a lottery pick.
😂
This is a hardcore L take.
Let’s just look at the FACTS:
Reed as a Freshman:
Had 4.5 assists with 2 TO and 2.5 steals per game on 54/52/83 splits in 29 minutes per game. Also had a defensive box plus minus of 5.0
Jimmer as a Senior:
Had 4.3 assists with 3.5 TO and 1.3 steals on 45/39.6/89 splits. Defensive BPM was 0.8
Reed is a lot younger and a lot more efficient than Jimmer was both as a shooter and as a passer on top of being a much better defender than Jimmer as well.
@@alecfranklin3827 how come you didn't mention their avg per game points?
Go Rockets 🚀
Atlanta just trying to pry bonus picks or players as a guarantee not to take Clingan or the French guy.
Love Simons and 7 plus 14 you could get some real nice pieces that slide. Maybe even Sheppard and Knect or Williams.
Agree, trade POR #3 and salary filler for Simons, #7, and #14.
Doubt the Blazers would do all three.
thats a lot for 3 simons is a very good player maybe i can see this trade if sarr i there at 3 and the blazers love sarr
@@greglyon1402 yeah that a lot for the 3rd pick
@@juniorgarcia9292 I agree, someone they love has to be there. I would do the trade even if Sarr is there. 7 could be Williams and 14 Ware. Or Topic who sits out a year and then Ware @ 14. A chance to get cheap role players is valuable. Simons only has two years so this year off the bench and next year takes FVV spot. I mean, Simons, Green, Amen, Bari, Sengun with Dillon, Cam, Tari, Ware, Topic/Sheppard/Dillingham off the bench sounds pretty nice.
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Rockets trade Dillon Brooks to the Knicks for 24th, 25th picks
How much would a trade for Ausar be
Go rockets baby
2 rounds being televised is stupid
We won 11 in row without lane blocking so he can’t block shots or rebound ap in the way trade him every team in the trying get green
Opinions on 4 team trade idea
Portland receives:
Jabari Smith Jr
Anthony Black
Jett Howard
Orlando’s 2024 FRP #18
Orlando’s 2025 unprotected FRP
Cleveland’s 2025 unprotected second round pick
Houston’s 2026 FRP via Brooklyn
Orlando’s 2027 SRP via Boston
Houston’s 2027 SRP via Memphis
Cleveland’s unprotected 2028 SRP
Houston receives:
Darius Garland
Max Strus
Wendell Carter Jr
Portland’s 2024 FRP #7
Portland’s 2024 SRP #40
Cleveland receives:
Jerami Grant
Malcom Brogdon
Orlando’s 2024 SRP # 47
Orlando receives:
Fred VanVleet
Anfernee Simons
Houston’s 2027 FRP swap rights with Brooklyn
Blazers finally commit to young core.
Trading away talented veterans so the younger players can get minutes on the court. This team will never contend as is, a imminent blow up is obvious. Compensated with promising young players and a slew of picks.
Rockets hand the keys over to Darius Garland.
Rockets acquire a young and talented point guard to be a corner stone of a rebuild. They currently have the #3 pick in the draft and this trade nets them #7 as well. They could keep the picks and go all in on a youth movement or they could look to double dip and flip some new assets for Mikal Bridges after this trade is finished.
Cleveland onboards new talent.
Obviously the pair of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland didn’t workout. Cleveland gets deeper by landing two legitimate NBA caliber starters in Grant and Brogdon. This team desperately needs wing play and Jeremi Grant can provide that. Landing Malcom Brogdon allows Donovan Mitchell to play off ball and conserve energy and not run himself ragged trying to do everything. Both players shoot the deep ball well and stretch the floor. With the 47th pick they can scoop up Bronny James and potentially get both James Sr and Jr in a return to Cleveland.
Orlando gets a brand new talented backcourt.
Orlando is building something great. The two way play is exciting to watch. Fred VanVleet is a underrated defender and very skilled point guard with veteran experience that this team needs and Anfernee Simons is the offensive firepower answer.
What if we got Clingan at #3 and trade Adam for Hardaway jr.
The Jazz for Colin Sexton and 10th 32nd picks for 3 tate landell
Ewww
I don't know why there is not more talk about a trade with Utah. Sexton and Clarkson have been put on the trading block.
The Rockets put a gag order on draft Intel.
Certainly feels like it this time around
Portland would trade #7 & #14, if they could get Clingan. I really like Sheppard but his lack of size and wingspan make him a defensive liability. Opposing teams will hunt Sheppard (There's a Reason Payton Pritchard very few minutes in the NBA Finals). Sheppard was routinely getting beaten at the point-of-attack at Kentucky. Alex Sarr needs to be developed offensively but he does fit Ime's defensive culture. Castle lacks the athleticism to be a NBA-level shot creator, he's a poor shooter, and he's an average playmaker (Sheppard has innate & better playmaking skills than Castle). If Alex Sarr doesn't fall to #3, I really hope Houston trades the Pick, and just target the awesome upcoming prospects in the 2025 Draft.
Go rockets 🚀
I want us to trade back and pick my dawg Edey
Keyshawn George looks good for the Rockets too
Cant teach height rim protection 7’2 Donoven Clingan
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Go rockets
Trade POR the #3 pick and salary filler for Simons, #7, and #14.
No way the Blazers give up all that for 3.
We need height
Wizards pick u know that,wizards scooping sarr so this video a waste of time