I did not use the screws coming with the kit. I used 3" lag bolts to mount to the joists because I first mounted the hoists to a board while on the ground for easier installation. I used all the screw holes on the hoists to screw it to the ceiling plus added extra screws to the board for security. May be overkill but I didn't want to find my bike through my car's windshield .
I mounted one of these in my garage with joists running perpendicular to how I wanted to hang the bike. I mounted the pulley hardware to a board and then mounted the board to my joists. Made it much easier to line up the hardware with my bike and mount the pulley system where I wanted it. Only annoying thing I will say for these systems is the hooks on the bike tend to want to drift apart; get yourself a cheap bungee cord to stretch between them so they stay tight to each other, and it won't give you any problems.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey nobody said he can’t use a stud finder, he’s just saying toms got that much time on the job that he’s learnt to locate joists/studs without a detector
I know you can find them by ear, I have but why not just use a stud finder and locate the stud for sure without some "maybe holes" in the ceiling that need to be filled. Measure twice cut once.
Holiness Is The Way! I use a stud finder, in fact I have 3, and I still always use a small pilot hole to make sure I hit the stud. I don’t have to worry about patching them though because they’re hidden the bracket I’m mounting.
the only way it whont be firm is if you really got the edge of the joist but even if you get the very edge you can tell because it's loose and the screw goes in fast.
cnl1213 Sounds like the plan. Though i doubt it that you can hear much difference over a few centimeters. A bike is not too heavy anyway. For real heavy stuff i would properly localise the studs. Like visually.
I have just installed a bike lift modal 95803 same model as your video,here's my problem when I pull the cord to left the bike only the front end lifts, if I hold the front end down and pull then the back end lifts. I can't get the bike to go up level, I have the hooks facing each other and the bike is evenly weighted. I have followed your instructions threading the rope. can you help. Thanks, Phil.
I would definitely use bigger brackets, and bigger/longer bolts. Don't mount it only into the ceiling surface with masonry screws. The brackets should be mounted deep into the actual wood rafters above, at least 2 to 3 inches in. Those screws definitely don't look sufficient enough. Otherwise the weight of the bikes will pull them out. Maybe not right away but sooner or later it will. Avoid buying any bike mounting 'kits' as I've never seen any that are good enough. Just get some of your own hardware for ultra cheap. I have normal height 8 ft ceiling rafters in my garage. I just got some big/thick 'eye' hooks, sunk them into the bottom of the rafters, and big 's-hooks' to hang the bikes on. Padded the s-hooks with some rubber & foam. Total hardware cost to hang 4 individual bikes: About $15 bucks. Far stronger than any kits on the market. A permanent solution.
umm, Tom did mount them in to a stud/joist. his thumb knock and exploratory pilot hole(s) confirmed he was on a stud/joist. those 2" screws are plenty w/2 per bracket. the load is static and not swinging. plus the system is rated for 50-70 lbs. if your bicycle weighs more than 70lbs (some 3-wheel recumbent or trikes w/basket), then you need another system....
In the video she measures something on her bike, but the camera isn't wide enough to reveal where she is measuring to. Then you added a pulley to the rope, but didn't say where on the rope to put the pulley in measurements. How is this helpful?
Those screws look way too short for the bracket and the drywall. How does one determine the correct length and size of screw to support not only the load of the bikes, but the pulling force of the cable while raising the bikes?
I'm not convinced... If I had to guess, I'd say those are 1" screws, of which about 0.25" is taken up by the bracket, and 0.5" by the gypsum board, leaving only 0.25" for the joist. I bet I could yank that screw out with pliers. And while bikes don't weigh much, that's still about 7.5 lbf per screw from the weight of the bike, plus about 20 lbf extra (approx 15 lbf from tension on the pull cord and approx 5 lbf from friction) on the screw by the pull cord while it's being raised. I personally wouldn't want to be under the bike while it's being raised. Why not install with a 2" screw for peace of mind?
As long as the stopper knot is sufficiently bulkier than the hole, it should be fine. I would personally use the 'Ashley stopper' knot if there was room, because it's bulkier and more reliable than a figure-8, but as long as the 8 is bulky enough, it's static so it's not going to come undone
What I did to remedy that possible "fail" was that I screwed a closed round eyehook into the joist next to where that knot is on the hoist. After making that knot on the hoist I left a long tail on the line and tied that to the eyehook. So if the knot on the hoist come through the hoists hole the line still tied to the eyehook would save the day. It's just double insurance.
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
He's using self-drilling metal screws to screw into wooden joists. This is not the appropriate type of screw for this application. Pointy or type-17 wood screws have courser and larger threads better suited to drilling into and holding in wood.
Wow that method of finding studs is horrible, they are only 1.5" thick, it's so easy to think you hit it but then drill into the very edge and have no support. At least drill 1/4" to each side to make sure you weren't at the edge.
I do not trust Tommy’s way of finding a stud at all!!! For all he knows, he could be screwing into the very edge of a stud which could potentially split!! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Pretty lame way to try and hit a stud, I swear some of those pilot holes just went in way too easy. Tom's ego in front of the camera trying make it like he's too much a pro to miss one. LOL
Just as soon as other people talk (clients) it's so obvious it's been acted several times before uploading and it just irritates me when they speak like bloody robots kind of just talk normal lol it's probably me being to fussy
Thanks Tom! we have so much space in our garage!
Thanks Tom. Lol
Wow. Tom is still alive. I remember watching this show as a kid. Great stuff.
4:21 - You saved me from buying pulley system by showing me this method :) I mounted two bikes like this... thank you TOH!!!!
What is it called?
Tom is like "what's a stud finder?"
Holy moly, an independent fabrication cross bike, a custom seven, plus three other bikes? There's probably 20 grand just in bicycles in there!
eat the rich
I was going to say...if I had a Seven, I’d be displaying it in my living room!
These are the rich that don't care about being flashy. They buy the best for the quality and not to show off
I did not use the screws coming with the kit. I used 3" lag bolts to mount to the joists because I first mounted the hoists to a board while on the ground for easier installation. I used all the screw holes on the hoists to screw it to the ceiling plus added extra screws to the board for security. May be overkill but I didn't want to find my bike through my car's windshield .
I mounted one of these in my garage with joists running perpendicular to how I wanted to hang the bike. I mounted the pulley hardware to a board and then mounted the board to my joists. Made it much easier to line up the hardware with my bike and mount the pulley system where I wanted it. Only annoying thing I will say for these systems is the hooks on the bike tend to want to drift apart; get yourself a cheap bungee cord to stretch between them so they stay tight to each other, and it won't give you any problems.
yup. Screwing a board to the joists and wall frame makes it much more usable.
having a platform like that to work on sure would make it easier..
Drilling with no stud finder or marks!? Old school! This guy knows his profession.
Too old school. They already invented stud finders.
Tom Silva is more than capable of finding studs without the aid of a stud finder.
all he has to do is look in a mirror.
Nothing wrong with professionals using a stud finder. That's like an accountant refusing to use a calculator.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey nobody said he can’t use a stud finder, he’s just saying toms got that much time on the job that he’s learnt to locate joists/studs without a detector
I know you can find them by ear, I have but why not just use a stud finder and locate the stud for sure without some "maybe holes" in the ceiling that need to be filled. Measure twice cut once.
Holiness Is The Way! I use a stud finder, in fact I have 3, and I still always use a small pilot hole to make sure I hit the stud. I don’t have to worry about patching them though because they’re hidden the bracket I’m mounting.
Gotta love the 'tap method' come on Tommy stud finders are cheap as chips but much better than the tap method.
I'm sure he doesn't need one. He's been doing this before the Dead Sea became sick.
He's old school carpenter.
how you check you are screwing on the middle of the joist and not just -too close- to the edge ?
the only way it whont be firm is if you really got the edge of the joist but even if you get the very edge you can tell because it's loose and the screw goes in fast.
you may try tapping from both sides of the joist and then match the sounds to find the center.
cnl1213 Sounds like the plan. Though i doubt it that you can hear much difference over a few centimeters. A bike is not too heavy anyway. For real heavy stuff i would properly localise the studs. Like visually.
Studfinder
@@j8lech studs are 16 inches on center. If you measure 16 in from the other stud you should be Center
Thanks Tom!
I have just installed a bike lift modal 95803 same model as your video,here's my problem when I pull the cord to left the bike only the front end lifts, if I hold the front end down and pull then the back end lifts. I can't get the bike to go up level, I have the hooks facing each other and the bike is evenly weighted. I have followed your instructions threading the rope. can you help.
Thanks, Phil.
did you figure out the problem? I have the same issue
Thanks Tom. Wicked awesome
Tom, that very nice bike rack installation.
Appears to be a RAD bike/pulley kit. 2 pk from Amazon is @ $20...
and the scafold rental $200
Will this work for mini bikes
Thanks Tom
Nice video guys! Great job.
The last part sounds so natural 😒
THANKS TOM THIS IS WONDERFUL WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE SPACE IN OUR GARAGE
funny comments -- yeah - thanks Tom.
I would definitely use bigger brackets, and bigger/longer bolts. Don't mount it only into the ceiling surface with masonry screws. The brackets should be mounted deep into the actual wood rafters above, at least 2 to 3 inches in. Those screws definitely don't look sufficient enough. Otherwise the weight of the bikes will pull them out. Maybe not right away but sooner or later it will. Avoid buying any bike mounting 'kits' as I've never seen any that are good enough. Just get some of your own hardware for ultra cheap. I have normal height 8 ft ceiling rafters in my garage. I just got some big/thick 'eye' hooks, sunk them into the bottom of the rafters, and big 's-hooks' to hang the bikes on. Padded the s-hooks with some rubber & foam. Total hardware cost to hang 4 individual bikes: About $15 bucks. Far stronger than any kits on the market. A permanent solution.
umm, Tom did mount them in to a stud/joist. his thumb knock and exploratory pilot hole(s) confirmed he was on a stud/joist. those 2" screws are plenty w/2 per bracket. the load is static and not swinging. plus the system is rated for 50-70 lbs. if your bicycle weighs more than 70lbs (some 3-wheel recumbent or trikes w/basket), then you need another system....
Great system👍🏾 Thank you!
In the video she measures something on her bike, but the camera isn't wide enough to reveal where she is measuring to. Then you added a pulley to the rope, but didn't say where on the rope to put the pulley in measurements. How is this helpful?
Tom’s videos are B.S.
Those screws look way too short for the bracket and the drywall. How does one determine the correct length and size of screw to support not only the load of the bikes, but the pulling force of the cable while raising the bikes?
They're just fine. It's just a bicycle. Not a chin up bar.
I'm not convinced... If I had to guess, I'd say those are 1" screws, of which about 0.25" is taken up by the bracket, and 0.5" by the gypsum board, leaving only 0.25" for the joist. I bet I could yank that screw out with pliers. And while bikes don't weigh much, that's still about 7.5 lbf per screw from the weight of the bike, plus about 20 lbf extra (approx 15 lbf from tension on the pull cord and approx 5 lbf from friction) on the screw by the pull cord while it's being raised. I personally wouldn't want to be under the bike while it's being raised. Why not install with a 2" screw for peace of mind?
The screws are 2" long. It's the Racor PBH-1R kit.
exactly my thoughts too
Thank you
Thanks Tod
is this comfortable for bike?
Tommy drill the whole and it was nice and hard. That Tom Norris the man.
am I the only one worried about that "knot" she tied being the anchor point for the weight of that bicycle?
According to the video description ... homeowner and his daughter... so that could be a man?
As long as the stopper knot is sufficiently bulkier than the hole, it should be fine. I would personally use the 'Ashley stopper' knot if there was room, because it's bulkier and more reliable than a figure-8, but as long as the 8 is bulky enough, it's static so it's not going to come undone
What I did to remedy that possible "fail" was that I screwed a closed round eyehook into the joist next to where that knot is on the hoist. After making that knot on the hoist I left a long tail on the line and tied that to the eyehook. So if the knot on the hoist come through the hoists hole the line still tied to the eyehook would save the day. It's just double insurance.
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
That garage is bigger than my house, where do they find these people?
Hasnt he heard of stud finder?😀
Kidlat922, he has. It’s his knuckle. Tom has always said it’s the most reliable way of finding studs.
are you fuggin' kidding me? HAHAHA!! Block and tackle. Was this joker in the USN?
Those screws are too short. Go buy longer ones.
what if that was edge of the stud
My thought exactly.
sooo... that should hold my 600lb motorcycle right? meh, it's worth a shot.
Shillier just get extra long screws
Just remembered to use Hex long wood screws.
I hope tom gets a shag after all that hard work! nice job guys these pulleys look a lot more pro than the garbage at my local DIY
yes, I was counting pulleys to make my own rigs, but I think the cost may be more than those rigs
Let me smack it instead of using a stud finder
My cabinet teacher never used stud finder.
He got it in the stud. LOL
just make sure you don't have one crashing down on you lol
that would be my biggest concern in this type of project
The video description says "the homeowner and his daughter". Tom Silva, You were there. Did you check if she has a wee wee?
He's using self-drilling metal screws to screw into wooden joists. This is not the appropriate type of screw for this application. Pointy or type-17 wood screws have courser and larger threads better suited to drilling into and holding in wood.
How does he know if he's in the middle of the joist or right on its edge...? That wasn't very thorough. 😏
12’ tall... 3x Tommy’s height.
NOW, I can hang my BIKE.
This dude swears way less than I would installing something.
Wow that method of finding studs is horrible, they are only 1.5" thick, it's so easy to think you hit it but then drill into the very edge and have no support. At least drill 1/4" to each side to make sure you weren't at the edge.
"should be right there" Don't use the right tool for the job.
I do not trust Tommy’s way of finding a stud at all!!! For all he knows, he could be screwing into the very edge of a stud which could potentially split!! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
LOL
Pretty lame way to try and hit a stud, I swear some of those pilot holes just went in way too easy. Tom's ego in front of the camera trying make it like he's too much a pro to miss one. LOL
Jim Baggio I do the same to verify I have a stud. I have 3 stud finders and still always use a tiny pilot hole to verify they were correct.
Dumbest . If he screws on the edge of that 2/6 !!! POW that bike is down
Da took ur joooobbzz!!!!
I find it bloody weird how weak American building constructions are.
Drywall everywhere.
I guess we are just less violent and don't expect to be bashing holes in all of our interior walls. . .
Tree Gaming well i punched lots of holes in mine so its just all on the person there all fixed now its an easy fix if you know how to.
How in the world would the use of drywall equate to weakness?
youtuber it’s a pretty weak material
@@BobbyBaloney I suppose steel walls would fix that problem.
This guy annoys me more than I can express. He seems soooo arrogant and condescending to me.
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Just as soon as other people talk (clients) it's so obvious it's been acted several times before uploading and it just irritates me when they speak like bloody robots kind of just talk normal lol it's probably me being to fussy
I turn off sound and just watch
thank you
Thanks Tom