Fujifilm X-T5 Firmware 3.01 Autofocus Test | Broken Firmware!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video I will test the autofocus of the Fujifilm X-T5 after firmware 3.01. The firmware seems to have a video autofocus bug. I hope Fujifilm releases a new firmware soon!
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The year is 2042. Fuji has just released the XT-8. Firmware 9.01 has just released. This time they say the eye AF is working and reliable.
I hope not, hahaha!
You meant year 4022. Probably, if they dont fix the af issues, they are not going to get to year 2042 hahah
Yes! But you forgot to tell that this camera will be an instant classic and that it has to be ordered 10 years in advance.
Thank you for these tests, Andrei. I upgraded last night and was fairly happy with the performance when shooting photos but wasn't sure how the video updates would turn out. Such a bummer that even after so many years, we are still lightyears behind the autofocus performance of Sony, Lumix, etc. Oh well, at least we have film simulations lol. I also hope the Summer release with Reala Ace comes with some more improvements. Thanks again for this video!
I am glad you liked it. Again, we have to wait some more.
@@cowslaw Lol, all these haters who don't know how to use their camera complaining about AF!
Morons. You need to stop using Nostalgic Negative film sim. Negative film sim = Negative results.
You need to ask no1 fuji fanboy cheerleader Patrick from fujirumors for "Nostalgic Positive" film sim. Only available for fuji fanboys by the way.
And that fixes all our problems
Shot 450 pics today at the zoo with little kids running around and only 3 were slightly out of focus. The rest were tack sharp with eye AF with new firmware. So far looks good to me. Shot with 23 f1.4 v2 lens.
As I said in the video, I find the photo AF to be improved. Using a wider lens on Fujifilm cameras always gives better results.
I did also took a few video clips. Going to check later today on how the autofocus performed
@@AndreiDimaReviews Not true.. the 90 has always been Fuji's fastest and most accurate focusing lens
I wonder if the slower focus in video was Fuji’s way to address the numerous criticisms about focus racking not being smooth and “cinematic.”
So, 1 thanks for making this video. I feel there aren't enough Fuji videos being posted when compared to the other brands. I searched Fujifilm this week and there isn't very much that pops up. Even when the tracking dropped for the X-H2s it was the same .
Secondly there is a huge problem with this tracking update on my X-H2s . If you have the screen facing forward and you touch to track if you move you head one way the tracking box goes the total opposites way . Also, I'm having issues where if I'm recording on my X-H2s it will act as if the camera is in a product showcase mode where anything in the front of the frame will steal the focus from my face or eyes. I use left eye priority. If, I don't move the actual focus box to my face you will see the AF going crazy with me moving slightly in frame. The spot on the right of the screen where it says AF in the box that changes to tracking and green when you tap the subject will go crazy if I put something in front of my face. This wasn't the case before. I was really waiting for touch to track for video mode and now I'm holding off on updating my X-S20. I really hope they fix these bugs. I wish there was a setting where you can have the box just stay on your eye instead of trying to focus on what's front and center in the frame like there is a way in photo mode to change the setting to not front or back focus.
I am glad it was helpful! It seems these updates have some bugs. I no longer own the X-H2s, sold it, twice.
I was looking for this video, thank you! ❤️
I have an X-T5 and mainly shoot family, including a toddler. With the previous firmware I got good keeper rates already. I hope this firmware improves this further. I used it yesterday and had some great kids action shots in focus. Not sure if the ild firmware would have missed more of them. I had only one picture out of focus (out of about 80 pictures, all in AF-C and eye tracking).
I am glad it was helpful! That is a good result.
Similar experience here - I did some shots with our daughter dancing wildly and 90% + were sharp shot with af-c eye tracking and the 23mm f1,4 lm wr..
The AF is still a bummer on fuji and that makes me sad
How hard is it to make it more precise and sticky on moving subjects?
Even the autofocus from the Nikon Zf-c is better, and that doesn't have the latest Nikon processor.
Firmware 6.0 literally broke my xh2s, it can't focus in video with 33 1.4 wr, it can't focus with fringer+ sigma 18 - 35, and before that it was working fine, I'm really disappointed, what to do now?
I had similar results until I checked on lens firmware updates that accompanied this camera update - ran those and everything now is slightly better instead of worse. My 16-80 and 50-140 were both updated for it.
Thank you for the tip but I have all my lenses up to date.
I experienced the same whan I had updated the firmware in my X-H2s a few weeks ago. I tried the wide tracking mode in video and immediately switched back to vario af.
Shooting photos was already good a year ago. At least to a point where the misses were so little that it didn‘t matter.
But it‘s so painful to see how much better my Canon R6 II handles AF in basically every scenario.
Thanks for sharing! Fuji needs to start from zero with the video AF.
Thank you for your honest review. I think Fuji has the best features layout overall , it’s just frustrating the autofocus is still such a continuous issue. I still get way to many missed single autofocus shoots on still subjects. The focus indicator will say it’s in focus but when you review the shot it will be out of focus. This is so frustrating. I have missed more than a handful of shots because of this. I honestly don’t think the hit rate is any better than my xt2.
I'm glad it was helpful! It seems like they need to consider outsourcing the work on the AF algorithm because their current team might be facing challenges in this area.
Really? What lenses are you using? My experience is that the T5 almost never misses with static subjects
@@AndreiDimaReviews I agree. If they were able to get the auto focus working right, they would have done so a long while ago. I still like the system overall to much to dump it. I just hate when I see other RUclipsrs claim there is no issue, and the auto focus is near flawless when it is far from it.
I was having horrible issues with my X-T5. It was showing focus confirmation, and then when reviewing the photos later they are slightly out of focus. Seems this is a common issue. Not sure if it was a bad copy or what
I swore off Fuji and bought the Nikon ZF and could not be happier. I still love the aesthetic of Fuji and the JPEGs are amazing, but I don't think it's a serious system and therefore i'm dumping my X-T5 to KEH.
I love the Nikon ZF for video.
It is a general Fuji AF issue, that for some reason way too few people are noticing, but luckily more and more…it happens with focal lenghts from 35mm and wider, at daylight, high contrast settings, AF-S Single Point focus (so the simplest task possible): The metered focus distance jumps around when focusing repeatedly at the same chosen point, leading to some shots being soft due to missed focus.
After trying a whole lot of different Fuji cameras I came to the conclusion that every X camera having an X trans sensor with phase detect and contrast AF has this issue. For example the X-Pro1 and X-T1, using only contrast AF, did not show this fault. So basically anything newer than that will drive you nuts. Missing focus as a mirrorless camera on stationary objects is ridiculous. I also sold all my Fujis therefore…
@@Zlaja192 Yes that's my exact findings from forums as well as my own testing as well. Ridiculous how more people don't see this issue. Wonder if certain models are worse? For example I hardly notice this on my X100V. I also found this issue in AFC mode strangely enough
@@AndreiDimaReviews I have not had a chance to try it seriously yet. But the IBIS is amazing for walking handheld shots
@@LambentLizard They are all the same. Its a general funny fault. People dont notice as they are way more focused on their Filmlook😄… honestly, even I did not get the problem immediately, I was just wondering where the special sharpness is, that everyone was talking about, when mentioning Fuji lenses and x trans sensors… until I had more and more shots that were not soft, but totally missed focus (x100f and x100v) .. that made me go investigate deeper. Tried to raise awareness on dpreview and never received funnier feedback with such literally dumb „solutions/workarounds“ in my life. Fuji really has some blindly-in-love customers
I shot quite a few weddings on the xt5 and xh2s... Can't complain tbh but there were some occasions where it really didn't work how my a7III did in the past...
Now with the update I tried it on my quirky son and the xt5 still didn't feel very confident in some situations. Itnl missed some very easy shots just because there was some foreground between my sitting son and me.
Interesting, I think the AF in photo is better, just the video one is worse. Thank you for sharing this info.
Yeah the touch tracking is bad in video. I just shot at an event with the 90mmf2 and the touch focus jumped around when there were too many subjects in frame when I tried to focus on one.
I am waiting to see what happens with the next firmware update. I hope they improve it.
yeah, this is the reason I don`t really prefer fuji and its a shame. Its definitely ok for most things but in profesional environment, you can`t focus on AF all the time. it takes a lot of experience to make the camera work. As for beginners, that is a problem. From my experience I constantly had to check if the photos were in focus and many times it was not the case. That create more stress and by simply focuring so much in getting the photo in focus, you might miss the moment or the opportunity for a great photo. Would not be nice to rely on the camera`s AF so you can focus on your framing, lighting, subjetc, etc? After owning a Fuji, I am scared to photograph a wedding....:D Not a friendly user camera. However, props to how the Fuji cameras see the world.
After updating I noticed a bug on my X-T5 that while previewing images in-camera it would not display the settings I used. Anybody experiencing the same issue? It’s not a big deal though. As a photographer only, I warmly welcome the firmware update.
Hello, I don't have the problem you describe.
i am planning a holiday in tanzania and Zanzibar in september. i need reliable autofocus by then.
if Fuji doesn't give us a fix til then, i will also downgrade my firmware. what good is reala ace if the fotos are out of focus?
shame on fuji, its just frustrating and tiring. again and again.
I've been testing Fuji's firmware updates since the release of the X-T4, but I'm exhausted by this constant cycle of broken fixes.
Looking forward to canon r5 ii, Nikon z6iii, and maybe new Sony. Fuji is a bit ginmicky. What will they do when Panasonics baked in LUT to jpg jumps to Sony? No need for Fuji after that.
Seriously feel bad for the Fuji loyalists. They deserve better. I hated moving away from the system, but the AF was just driving me mad on the X-T5 and X-H2s
I don't need fast AF for my photography work but I do for video. And sadly Fujifilm is behind all brands, I used the Nikon Zf-c for a couple of days and it has better video AF than Fuji.
@@AndreiDimaReviews for what I do, I needed fast AF in stills. I bought in to the system because they (Fuji) said the XH2s had flagship AF that was as good as Sony/Canon/Nikon FF. I found out that wasn’t the case. They are so close. But I couldn’t deal
With it and exited to Nikon. Now with the Z8 I get outstanding AF in stills and video when I use it. I picked up a Zfc for street use and I agree, it’s slightly better AF is crazy to me. Especially for the price. And IQ has been way better than I thought it would be. Still debating the Zf or wait to see what the Z6III will bring.
It doesn’t bother me because I use Fuji for studio portraits and headshots. But it could def be better.
@@JET-Photo I’m lucky, as I shoot only cine and vintage glass, so I don’t have much experience with the video AF on the XH2S. However, I feel like the photo AF is really not great, even with Fuji glass. I find that it misses completely often times, or focuses on the eye brow, instead of the eye. It’s not reliable at all and is a real let down.
@@Christo_glenn I went back and looked at one of my own comparison videos where I matched it up against the original Sony A9. I was on firmware 1.02 and it worked really well. Was about as good as the A9. Then they kept making it worse over time. I sold all my FUji gear while I was on firmware 3.0 I believe and it just wasn't nearly as good as 1.02.
Yes, I got the same experience 😮 The video autofocus is not as good as in the past
Good to know!
Update to 3.01 killed my X-T5s completely. All photos come out blurry. :/
Sorry to hear that. You should contact Fujifilm.
@@AndreiDimaReviews mulțumesc. I set the whole camera back and it worked again. Reset all settings. Am fost foarte fericit. Dacă nu avea să funcționează I would have had to buy a new one pentu că fiica daughter mea se merită on the Weekend and l have to take the photos.
What were your AF Speed Custom settings at?? The purpose its to adjust the speed sensitivity for tracking in video.
I tested all the settings, hunting and other problems are present in every scenario. Didn't share all the footage because I don't want to make a two hour video.
I used my Viltrox 13mm for a video shoot and I noticed it was hunting a lot. I had to retire it from the production.
Interesting, the 13mm had very good AF. Fujifilm needs to come out with a fix.
@@AndreiDimaReviews that’s right. It was one of the few lenses I actually trust for video aside from the 16-55 and 50-140.
The 16-55 still worked fine, I didn’t notice anything weird. I haven’t tested the 50-140 yet, I hope it works well
So sad I upgraded to 6.0 on my X-H2s from 5.03..face/eye AF in video now won't stick to face, I got a video on my channel. Last time I beta test for Fuji, from now I will always stay one fw behind to be safe.
We need to wait a week or two for people to report problems before updating.
@@AndreiDimaReviews true, it never happened to me before so I thought it'll always be like that. Now I know 😑
@@Tech_Stuff_and_Other_StuffBe ready for the hate.
@@edvard2942 Fuji fanboys will hate but I rather speak the truth than be a shill, not even getting payed to be a shill 🤣🤣
Wondering how this will be on the X-S20? I’ll have to do some testing.
Please share with us once you do.
does this mean i have to sell my xt-5!!??? i just got it even though it is sold as a photography first, because it was in my budget (second hand) I got it for video! (not the best choice but wanted to try FujiFilm) :[ I did update with the latest, for now it seems OK but I hope it will improve!
No, you don't need to sell it, just wait for the next update.
After the firmware upgraded on xt5 the auto focus did slightly better but I notice the f stop is inaccurate. This happened when mounting with voigtlander lens. I have 35mm 0.9 and 27 ultron when you shoot at the largest aperture it shows f22 in the details. Anyone have the same problem?
Is it possible to find out which Fuji lenses are better with autofocus on the XT5 after the firmware update?
You need to ask someone that has all the lenses. For photography I tested the 33mm f1.4 LM WR, the 16-80mm and the 23mm f2 and they all gave better results for photography.
Have you tried adjusting focus settings for video to see if you could get similar results to before the update?
I've experimented with numerous variations of settings both before and after. Despite my experience testing Fujifilm cameras and knowing which settings typically work better with each lens, I still conducted multiple trials. Unfortunately, I found that the autofocus is worse in video but better for photography after the update.
Dang that’s unfortunate. I guess I’ll wait until the next firmware update
In the video tracking when I press the button on my xh2s the green box disappear After few seconds and doesn’t stay as in your video. What I’m doing wrong?
I am not sure why that is happening. Let me check some things and I will come back with an answer soon.
@@AndreiDimaReviews thank you very much also for all you do for fujifilm users
Yo no se, I never have any of these issues, I shoot a lot of moving animals so I’ll shoot in a high shutter speed and will shoot in bursts for that, I’ve never not once missed a shot. It is a little slow but for what I do, food, street, architecture I have no problems. AND I generally use the 18mm f2 a notoriously slow focusing lens or the 56mm f1.4 r, which is also on the slow side and an older lens 🤷
Now it is clear why they hesitated to implement tap to track for so long time. It reveals all defects of their AF which is broken from the very beginning. What they have been managing with FWs and a new hardware is just to mask it's flaws but it's core remains the same. Fuji is a beautiful system with only one flaw, autofocus!
Well said.
True.
I think their motor isnt fast enough to capture the moving object.. so autofocus is delayed... That can't be improved beyond certain level...😢
I hope the next generation is going to be better.
I have another theory , The motors are fine (same 3rd party lens compared on other systems works like a totally different one, but it has the same motor , also aperture on sony is closing smoothly , on fuji is closing/opening in steps), I think the way the camera communicates with the lens is the issue. It communicates in small unaccurate steps. So I think the mount engineering/contacts/protocol is old technology and they can't replace it because they have a lot of lenses, that would mean they have to kill all of their xmount lenses.
I tested today AF on mirrorless Sony, nikon and Canon. And i'm agreed with others. Sony AF just mindblowning - ultra fast and correct. But skintone i don't like from Sony :(
Maybe Fuji will have good AF next generation.
Okay I won't be updating thanks for this bro
You're welcome bro! I think you should wait for the next one.
Nice video!!
Thanks!
Can you chose the speed of the autofocus ?
Yes, the focus can move faster but it still hunts.
@@AndreiDimaReviews too bad 😌
The lens you're using matters as well.
The XF33mm f1.4 LM WR is not good enough? We all know the lens matters. All lenses with linear motors should work very well.
after 6 months with xt5, my frustrations with autofocus, the dials easy changed in my bag with movement, and and moved on to XH2s and won't look back XT Five for Frustration
I can understand your frustration.
The dials lock….
@@thisiserich they do, but in my backpack and carry bag, the movement easily unlocked
can u test firmware 4.0 any better ?
I've been using the X-T5 and XF 33mm f/1.4 LM WR for Zoom and Teams, not for actual video capture. It's crazy fast! I've been messing around just sticking my hand in front of it and removing and adjustment from face/eyes to hand and back is near instant.
I am testing it. But the video is going to take a while because I am travelling with my work.
3:41 was the af settings sens 0 speed +5 ?
No, in this case it was tracking sensitivity 1 and speed 1. I tested all settings, all had the same problem.
@@AndreiDimaReviews Thanks
Wow. Video AF is really lagging. 😮
Sadly, yes.
Honest question as i don't shoot video, but is testing video AF at f/1.4 a realistic real world test?
Might the tracking and focus not be better and more reliable at f/8 or greater?
If you have an f1.4 lens you want to use it. No point IMO to test at f8 with plenty of depth of field buffer. This wouldn't prove a point.
We are paying the large sums for these new primes because they are amazing wide open, and their linear motors react at like 0.04sec speeds. This isn’t a lens issue, but a body issue anyway
To answer the first question: Yes, if you want subject separation or are in a dimly lit environment and need the light. And if you can do it on a Sony, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, etc., why not on a Fujifilm?
If you want to be happy with a firmware update, switch to a Lumix camera, especially s5ii or iix 😂 I did the opposite and i'm not so happy about it😢
probably its time for me to switch to sony for video. i cant wait that long for fuji while they are fixing such a simple thing for video focusing issues.
I made the switch a few years ago and kicking myself for not doing it sooner. I thought I was the problem when using Fuji. Turns out it wasn’t me, it was my gear. Do it - you won’t be disappointed.
@@RandumbTech i really want to focus more on what i shoot rather than gear, with Fuji i def cant rely on autofocus at all. for personal work its fine, for commercial - its risky.
I use the Nikon ZF for video and I am very happy with the results. I love the Fuji colours more but I need a reliable camera for video.
@@AndreiDimaReviews sony sony sony sony
I upgraded on Thursday shot a wedding on Saturday and the cameras kept freezing when switching the dials on SS from auto to manual 😑😅 anyone else have this issue
I don't have the issue.
I am on X-T3. Eye AF is so unreliable (I have a toddler) that I turned AF off and switched to old school Back Button Focus.
I was expecting that my problems would be resolved as soon as I switched to X-T5 or perhaps to X-H2S if I saved enough pennies.
One would expect that a camera (X-H2S) that costs 2.5K equipped with the stacked sensor would be reliable and impeccable after 6 firmware updates - why wouldn't it?
I don't know what Fujifilm is thinking. I think they should fire their engineering team - all of them. This is embarrassing and ridiculous.
They need to start from scratch with the AF algorithm.
@@AndreiDimaReviewsfast AF is under patents. Fujifilm just don't wants to paid for that. It's made me piss off.
The green box is now a lie!
The previous version was already bad for photo autofocus, and now this one has managed to break video autofocus. I'm getting tired of this game Fuji is playing. Plus, there's still no Reala Ace simulation for the X-T5-probably just to push sales of other models. I don't like the direction Fujifilm is heading.
@@AndreiDimaReviews Yeh I hear ya, it's starting to feel like because of all the tiktok simps, X100VI and XT50 sales... Fuji don't care, money be rolling in, we be damned!
@@SummersSnaps what do you think about the new Nikon X-H2s/Z6iii?
At this point fujifilm should ditch video entirely and focus on making niche photographic tools that nobody else would be willing to make (like a TX panoramic). Their team just can't seem to create better chips or AF algorithms no matter how hard they try. Even phones have better AF than Fuji
The video specs and image quality of the X-T5 are impressive, but the autofocus remains a problem. It's disappointing that we're experiencing a similar situation to what happened with the X-T4, waiting for improvements that never materialize.
@@AndreiDimaReviews true I feel let down and it’s not because I can’t get the images I want but rather the missed potential of the camera. If Fujifilm had the af on par with Sony or canon it would be best! Nobody beats Fuji colors, well maybe only Hasselblad
Let’s face it, the XT5 is not a great video camera and the autofocus is not amazing.
However it’s a great stills camera for street photography if you manual focus. Just set the aperture to f8 and zone focus. It’s also a great stills camera for landscape photography. Just set the aperture to f8 and zone focus. 😂 For the weight/size ratio and the great EVF, it is still my favorite camera.
Fair enough!
xt4 owners crying