These mini lessons on the various principles that are broken down, explained and demonstrated; are really helpful and show great insight. Amazing to see this shared on RUclips. Thank you.
Yeah, it won't. Practiced Taiji for years. People who know their shit and take it seriously have some interesting and unique skills. But the whole buckling, hopping around, and falling over thing is conditioned behavior. Demos like this just make it look like all woo and don't do Taiji justice.
Won’t look as pretty as far as effects on the grappler receiving the internal technique, but the ability to negate attempts to off-balance and apply leverage (e.g. due to peng jin) is in of itself quite a profound skill.
It's impressive yes - but why is it always with students? Why not the Praña sifu Huai Hsiang Wang at Martialman's festival for example? Is it pride? Fear of the demo failing? It devalues the power of the instruction if soft targets are always chosen.
Real Workout pick up a book and hold it in the air....then let go of it. People will call it relaxation or loosening but there is no perfect definition.
@@stevewalker121 If you let go of any tension in your body you will lie flat on the ground and the contents of your stomach and bladder will come out. So that can't be it.
Rob Smith He is not. Liang is Gu Luping lineage, Huang Xingxian is Zheng Manqing tradition. Both, however, trace to Yang Chengfu and Yang Shaohou of the third generation of Yang family taijiquan.
He is somewhat familiar with Huang Sheng Shyan's system although he is from Yang Shaohou's lineage, having both come into frequent contact with many practitioners.
@@MrCarstennielsen More to it, relaxed can be misunderstood. If you just let your arm hang like a dead fish, many people might call that relaxed, but it's not song in the context of Chinese martial arts.
@Apologies, The essence of Push Hands lies in the embodiment of balance. Just as we endeavor to achieve stability in our bodily actions, existence demands a seamless fusion of diverse elements. Push Hands enlightens us on the art of attaining equilibrium between toil and leisure, between seclusion and companionship, and between aspiration and satisfaction. It serves as a gentle reminder that a truly fulfilling life embraces the coexistence of yin and yang, discovering the magnificence within the intricate dance of opposites. I do not mean to be more than understanding. 🎉
Yes. It looks good, makes sense. but how can we train to get this skill? Will you explain? You're not going to answer this anyway. If I came there with a camera and said I was making film you would. Too secretive chinese. Westerners do UFC does it work or no
You westerners keep bringing up UFC as if it is the ultimate litmus test. Why train only to restrict one's limitation in sport. UFC is so restricted and is a pussified form of combat. Train as if you are preparing to go to war. Tai Chi is a killing art if understood correctly.
@@banzavatoka5929 Dude are you serious the last 2 tai chi fighters got smashed in ten seconds, in challenge matches. It's here on RUclips. That's why I posted these push hands guys make us look, but don't explain how you push, pull, split or whatever. I have trained tai chi a long time but I will still get bashed up. One of my tai chi mates argued with his neighbour, tried to use tai chi got two black eyes. Tai chi teachers are not serious
@@zorbataichi65brown19 I trained in Wing Chun for a while then Kuta (Hikuta) which complements Wing Chun very well. I've seen the videos you mentioned. Those so-called masters who got beaten up look so fake. I'd have beaten multiples of them myself but I have respect for the very few authentic Tai Chi masters. It is hard to tell though whether or not they intend to hurt an opponent. Maybe you have trained in Tai Chi for so long but still not mastered it for it to become useful. I disagree to let sports be the litmus test of any martial art. I see a 'fight to the death' scenario where no rules, refs or rounds as the ultimate test.
@@MrCarstennielsen Because when you create a second center of gravity in your body, the pressure gets stuck and can not properly be lead into the ground through the structure.
@@MrCarstennielsen Well, I learn in a direct transmission from someone who wrote one of the most important classics and that's how it is transmitted in our line. What others interpret, is not my problem. Also I don't know what these fights on RUclips have to do with the question. Seems like you're just trying to argue about Taijiquan being bullshit. Well, I give you some good advice: No one forces you to watch, bro!
@@MrCarstennielsen I'm talking about Chen Xin, who is not just some random guy, but wrote one of the most important Taiji classics "Chenshi Taijiquan Tushuo". If you think what we practice is not authentic, please go to his descendants in Chen clan (founding fathers of Taijiquan) and tell them to their face.
This guy looks young and fit. Why does he not set up some real fights with some real fighters and show how this technique works in a real confrontation??? Seems logical to me. Everything that is worth time and effort must be tested. And the more testing the better.
As someone who took challenge matches for 20 years I can tell you honestly it doesn't matter. It's never enough. If you do it in formal tourneys which is not tradition, then they want you to do it forever like a circus monkey so they can make money off you.
These mini lessons on the various principles that are broken down, explained and demonstrated; are really helpful and show great insight. Amazing to see this shared on RUclips. Thank you.
but what has this to do with double weighedness????
There is passive resistance and active resistance, there is also uncoordinated resistance
How do I increase my song quality? How do I know that I'm relaxed enough?
Would you be able to demonstrate against a stranger trained in grappling? Just to see if it works against non students.
Yeah, it won't. Practiced Taiji for years. People who know their shit and take it seriously have some interesting and unique skills. But the whole buckling, hopping around, and falling over thing is conditioned behavior. Demos like this just make it look like all woo and don't do Taiji justice.
Won’t look as pretty as far as effects on the grappler receiving the internal technique, but the ability to negate attempts to off-balance and apply leverage (e.g. due to peng jin) is in of itself quite a profound skill.
It's impressive yes - but why is it always with students? Why not the Praña sifu Huai Hsiang Wang at Martialman's festival for example? Is it pride? Fear of the demo failing? It devalues the power of the instruction if soft targets are always chosen.
Is one projecting his own Qi by applying this skill?
If so, does that mean he's consuming his Qi?
It seems like more a mind skill than a body one.
ฝึกกันอยู่ที่จังหวัดไหนเหรอครับ เปิดเป็นสำนักสอนมั้ยครับ
Can you explain what SONG is and how it works ???
Real Workout pick up a book and hold it in the air....then let go of it. People will call it relaxation or loosening but there is no perfect definition.
Releasing. Letting go of any tension in the body
@@stevewalker121 If you let go of any tension in your body you will lie flat on the ground and the contents of your stomach and bladder will come out. So that can't be it.
@@Livingtree32 release the muscles, let them hang on your skeleton. Use tendons and ligaments to support your structure.
Thanks for sharing. Are you connected to the Huang Sheng Shyan tradition?
Rob Smith He is not. Liang is Gu Luping lineage, Huang Xingxian is Zheng Manqing tradition. Both, however, trace to Yang Chengfu and Yang Shaohou of the third generation of Yang family taijiquan.
He is somewhat familiar with Huang Sheng Shyan's system although he is from Yang Shaohou's lineage, having both come into frequent contact with many practitioners.
@@Veepee92 thanks
How many years of tai chi practice before you can use 'sung' on your opponent ?
sung is to relax or be relaxed, the process.
@@MrCarstennielsen More to it, relaxed can be misunderstood. If you just let your arm hang like a dead fish, many people might call that relaxed, but it's not song in the context of Chinese martial arts.
@Apologies,
The essence of Push Hands lies in the embodiment of balance. Just as we endeavor to achieve stability in our bodily actions, existence demands a seamless fusion of diverse elements. Push Hands enlightens us on the art of attaining equilibrium between toil and leisure, between seclusion and companionship, and between aspiration and satisfaction. It serves as a gentle reminder that a truly fulfilling life embraces the coexistence of yin and yang, discovering the magnificence within the intricate dance of opposites.
I do not mean to be more than understanding. 🎉
great video! i really wish i can learn more from you, Sifu.
greetings from Indonesia
but what has this to do with double weighedness????
@@authentickungfu7910 No, not force against force. That's not what it means.
is there a site where one can get in contact with this teacher of yang tai chi?
you can contact him through his facebook page, just search for his name.
不错的老师
Yes. It looks good, makes sense. but how can we train to get this skill? Will you explain? You're not going to answer this anyway. If I came there with a camera and said I was making film you would. Too secretive chinese. Westerners do UFC does it work or no
Go train with him.
@@jbouse64 You're answering something I said 6 MONTHS ago, I can't even remember posting it! Or what I meant
You westerners keep bringing up UFC as if it is the ultimate litmus test. Why train only to restrict one's limitation in sport. UFC is so restricted and is a pussified form of combat. Train as if you are preparing to go to war. Tai Chi is a killing art if understood correctly.
@@banzavatoka5929 Dude are you serious the last 2 tai chi fighters got smashed in ten seconds, in challenge matches. It's here on RUclips. That's why I posted these push hands guys make us look, but don't explain how you push, pull, split or whatever. I have trained tai chi a long time but I will still get bashed up. One of my tai chi mates argued with his neighbour, tried to use tai chi got two black eyes. Tai chi teachers are not serious
@@zorbataichi65brown19 I trained in Wing Chun for a while then Kuta (Hikuta) which complements Wing Chun very well.
I've seen the videos you mentioned. Those so-called masters who got beaten up look so fake. I'd have beaten multiples of them myself but I have respect for the very few authentic Tai Chi masters. It is hard to tell though whether or not they intend to hurt an opponent.
Maybe you have trained in Tai Chi for so long but still not mastered it for it to become useful.
I disagree to let sports be the litmus test of any martial art. I see a 'fight to the death' scenario where no rules, refs or rounds as the ultimate test.
HUH!??
Robert Desmond Warner I understand how you feel
@@maskwhite4296 grew up on an island where these masters were everywhere
@@MrCarstennielsen Because when you create a second center of gravity in your body, the pressure gets stuck and can not properly be lead into the ground through the structure.
@@MrCarstennielsen Well, I learn in a direct transmission from someone who wrote one of the most important classics and that's how it is transmitted in our line. What others interpret, is not my problem. Also I don't know what these fights on RUclips have to do with the question. Seems like you're just trying to argue about Taijiquan being bullshit. Well, I give you some good advice: No one forces you to watch, bro!
@@MrCarstennielsen I'm talking about Chen Xin, who is not just some random guy, but wrote one of the most important Taiji classics "Chenshi Taijiquan Tushuo". If you think what we practice is not authentic, please go to his descendants in Chen clan (founding fathers of Taijiquan) and tell them to their face.
1:06 amd 1:22 Come on guy in blue long sleve shirt, you make all people shake their head s and go elsewhere with such bad acting.
This guy looks young and fit. Why does he not set up some real fights with some real fighters and show how this technique works in a real confrontation??? Seems logical to me. Everything that is worth time and effort must be tested. And the more testing the better.
As someone who took challenge matches for 20 years I can tell you honestly it doesn't matter. It's never enough. If you do it in formal tourneys which is not tradition, then they want you to do it forever like a circus monkey so they can make money off you.
推: 01:32