SA-Israel ICJ case | John Dugard SC
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- John Dugard SC talked about jurisdiction. He detailed South Arica’s long history with Israel, and the attack of 7 October, but how that then unleashed a horror on the Palestinians of Gaza. South Africa warned Israel of its objections. He also detailed the continuing horror that Cyril Ramaphosa continues to condemn. Israel has not responded to the communications. Israel began denying the claims of genocide in early December. South Africa had already accused Israel at the UN General Assembly and in the Security Council, and called on the ICC to look into acts. Despite the harsh accusation, Israel has persisted in its actions, which is why this case is so necessary.
The ICJ has a number of tests whether a dispute exists. Israel is well aware of South Africa’s attitude, communicated as such, and the acts continue. Israel described the allegations as ‘obscene’. For provisional measure, need to show there is a basis for prima facie case. It is well proved.
Thank you South Africa 🇿🇦 🙏 for shining the light on Israel government , no matter what happens after this case, whole world now can see and hear. The genie is out of the bottle and no one can put it back, this is your time your moment . South African children be proud 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 the world is extremely proud of you,from UK 🇬🇧 👏
These people loving South Africa better push for the voices of our own victims of heinous crime to be heard.
Amen
This isn't about you right now. People have been suffering in Palestine. Just be proud that in a moment of our own struggle, we are taking a stand against other people's suffering
When you read about politics, as negative toward RSA, know it's the propoganda machines at work. Because all countries have political issues, but South Africans, and the world, are proud in this pivotal moment. For the fight of humanity. For the freedome of the people in Gaza, etc. Again, thank you South Africa!!!! Excellent job!!
As a bangladeshi a nation of 180 million people...please accept our 180 million thankyou's. ...thanyou verymuch south africa for stand up against the genocide of innocent Palestinian people.
Were we, as humans, really going to turn a blind eye and watch those people die? What? Lord have mercy. So if SA had not intervene, then what? As an American Christian, I am grateful to the people of South Africa. Justice for the Gazans and the collective.
As a South African, thank you SA for standing against genocide in Palestine
as an Egyptian i say thank you south Africa for you to stand up for humanity
History will remember south Africa for this historical move for gaza and also remember Is*ail for there crimes Against Humanities
As a human being and African i salute the people of the great South Africa and it inhabitants for their courageous out standing against the Israeli state
So many IDF bots on overtime in the comment section 😂
Does it say Iran or Russia on your propaganda paycheck? I'd like to report your low effort post.
So you support the genocide of the Jews in israel?
We Salute #SouthAfrica and its Free People...
Fantastic that Prof.Dugard leads the charge. He's brilliant!
Utterly mediocre -by far the laggard in the SA team
Thank you south Africa ❤❤❤ free Palestine gaza
Long live South Africa! ❤
This is about being on the right side of history, Apartheid cannot tolerated just because it’s across the sea
@@ellenanortje3707 Your argument is invalid, we can never justify the innocent slaughter of WOMEN and children! People’s whole families wiped out, you telling me Gaza is not an open prison?? Where would you go to escape the bombs.
And I'm suppose to be a proud South African. My country South Africa is a disgrace.
How so
Totally agree!
Then go live in Isreal,they'll give you a free Palistinians home,,it's the land of milk and Honey..
Save the same energy for ANC! Take it to court! My grandmother's house was on fire 2013 Dec. And they said they will come back to fix my grandmother's house. 10 years later, the house is still down, and she has been so loyal with ANC. 2. She moved to her late sons house, one hour away from where she lived. The standard of living there is too high, even now the municipality always close her electricity, today the municipality came to close water!! SOUTH AFRICANS POLITICIANS ARE A JOKE! ALL OF THEM.
Let thrxgrandpa take Ramphoza to for the violation of human rights and racism before rushing to take Israel to court. When it is a political case initiated by the UN to use s.a. this is a big shame.
Maybe you are airing your views on the wrong platform.The government of SA is trying to help the people of Palestine. South Africans are free because of countries like Cuba.
You really thought it was a great idea to come say that here???😅 really?
You should pay you're grandmothers electricity and water then it won't be cut,I am sure all she has to pay is R50 a month like other indegint people..
Where was your fevour when farmers in south africa are systematically wiped out?
You are ignorant
Do you know how thousands of blacks are killed and buried by farmers in farms in South Africa? They just disappeared without trace. We have irrefutable evidence but can't present because you guys can't stand what's going to come after that.
Let's us NOT FORGET WHO SUPPORTS israel should be held accountable as well.
I support Israel and I am proud of it , if you support hamas you are guilty for the innocent Palestinians are were killed , figure that out .
Viva South Africa 🎉❤
Well done Prof Duggard
South Africa long live ❤
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❤South Africa❤❤❤❤❤
This is NOT SA, this is the ANC
How courageous the state of South Africa is. We from the third world countries are humbled by such gracious act. Only country in the entire world to come to the assistance of the Palestinians, the victim. History will hold South Africa with highest honour. Thank you South Africa.
Ah jeez, this is so embarrassing. As a Christian and South African, i stand with Isreal.
Why we make a case against Israel but so quiet about Russia?
Because israhell is the source of all evil in the world
Thats cool but can you maybe focus on our own war? I'm watching this on my UPS in Stage 2 with un-drinkable tap water.
I am almost embarrassed to be South African right now. They are outright supporting Islamic militant death squad. Israel will win every war, they have a higher power in their camp.
Approach the courts, and these lawyers will represent you in a legal case. Be prepared to pay because they charge by the hour. It's not for free. They are at work.
Which war?
South Africa is goi g to win this case.
But will anything happen after we do? A court case is nothing without consequences attached
Long live grandpa with much wisdom and experience ❤❤❤
Dugard is getting on?
South Africa is a terrible place. I have just been robbed in Uitenhage. What a terrible waste of money spent at this court that could prevent all this crime in South Africa
I agree with you. My country is a very terrible place.they say that they side with palistine but what they really mean is they stand with hamas.
Immigrate to Israel
open your eyes when u walk in mzansi... go to karate classes
In the US you would've been dead..
fortunately, for some principles are more important than money.
Thank you all lawyers and thank you South Africa to fight for Palestine
Respect you bless you
I'm a South African of colour. I stand with Israel. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
Do you seem to have forgotten what happened in S.A ?????
@lloydlongsr.8261 yes..😂😂😂
If you support the apartheid state of Israel, would you also like apartheid to be reintroduced in SA?
Must be lonely where you are. Did you hear about the funeral of the black IDF soldier in the recent conflict?
Google it and see their love to their comrade!
@@marcinbenedek789 Yes why not.We lived better then than now.
Trolls be mocking everithing, why are you people so angry i ask, can't you jusy marvel at the history that mzansi is doing
Netanyahu : "We are doing the most moral genocide with the most moral diaper army in the world"
We are not OK with Palestine but fine with Ukraine... Can't believe this BS
What do you mean "fine with Ukraine"? And who's "we"?
Because the invasion is justified
United States and its NATO ally’s overthrow the democratic elected president in Ukraine in 2014.
It then aided Ukrainian government to implement hostile policies against Russian speaking Ukrainians in Donbas, however, it didn’t stop there there, it further aided the Ukrainian government to ban the Russian language and culture in Ukraine, including shelling of the Donbas people in Ukraine.
Russia for 8 years through Minsk Agreement attempted to negotiate with Ukrainian government to find peace, without success.
Before invasion in February 2022, Russia presented a document to United States and NATO about measures to avoid the war and the fact that Ukraine should not be allowed to be part of NATO to ensure Russia’s security, however, without success.
Therefore on that basis the invasion in Ukraine is justified, as Russia has right to defend itself and its culture against the aggressors.
The above is different from what is happening in Palestine and Israel.
Your understanding of international affairs is lacking
We are not fine with none. That is why both wars have their respective ICJ cases.
He does NOT represent South Africa!
South Africa stands with Israel!
Poetic that the White south africans are the one leading the stand up against Israel.
It takes one to know one.
The ANC should rather get our own country in order [ESKOM / SAA / TRANSNET / SABC than spend time and taxpayers' money on a fight that has nothing to do with us. Most SA citizens do not support ANC government in this costly, wasteful and ill-conceived exercise
you know that cost-related critique has no bearing on the case, so thank you for confirming its merit. All the world, all humanitarian people stand in awe of South Africa, as the country that did most to help Palestine in its 76 year's struggle. For sure it was a decision which will benefit South Africa's image in the world for decades.
Pieter, you're wrong, most of us even here in the Western Cape support this case, regardless of whether its ANC or not.
Did u suffer under Apartheid. I am a child of Apartheid and no injustice can be overlooked. What would I still be considered in my birth country if Apartheid was to still exist? A second rate citizen? I live in SA day in and day as a contributing South African regardless of the challenges we face daily. Im not an ANC supporter. Injustice cannot be oked. VIVA Madiba VIVA. Long walk to Freedom ❤. This is a matter of our humanity.
🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴Ek staan band vas met julle , die mense moet boed vir hulle dade....
This is an absolute disgrace to humanity and to anything called common sense.
What is?
Oh pls verwoed
@@walid.Z😂😂😂😂
Not representing the people of SA, only representing the ANC and their followers
They must include all the Arab and Islamic countries that closed their borders to the Palestinians.
"He detailed South Arica’s long history with Israel, and the attack of 7 October, but how that then unleashed a horror on the Palestinians of Gaza" - how exactly did he truthfully present the Hamas terrorist attack of 7 October? how did he describe the measures that the IDF took to minimize the loss of non combatant Gazan civilians when attacking Hamas?
apparently such details get discussed during the hearing but not necessarily at the opening presentation
Is cal shameful law south Africa are so rubbish law
@@Star-zi4ez FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE MUST BE FREE
This is international Genocide law dear.@Star-zi4ez
They are discussing genocide and how it pertains to 30thousand dead,calm down,Isreal.wont be bombed to.kill 30 thousand after this,South Africa is trying to save lives on both sides..
What does nigeria do....Zimbabwe the
people flee because of GENOSIDEDE.
Farmers in South Africa flee their farms because of genocide.😂😂😂😂
Farmers in South Africa committed acts of genocide against the black South African!
HOLY LAND GIVEN TO GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, FOREVER
Prove it
Amen!
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Extremists
Godspeed SA❤️❤️❤️❤️
Very early April fools joke .Sort out South Africa first ,if you may or can .....yo
1' Close to make peace in the world as we know it.
This is none of our business.We have so many problems so deal with.We have elections to prepare for.
We can multitask
If elections mattered, they wouldn't let you do it
We gonna elect the ANC out .
Shame on you, South Afrika
FYI prof dugard authors a university textbook on internal law in sa, amongst other
Internal law..thanks..
Shame to Dugard
Old bigot.@@nusiadyk3718
@@nusiadyk3718imagine then, how much more shame on BB the baby butcher.
We are DOOMED 😅
Bagus2
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Very disappointed in John Dugard. Taught his son & having met him cannot believe he would stoop to supporting Hamas.
How is he supporting Hamas
@@jumpinjackflash7140 he’s gonna kill himself because he can’t handle truth
DEMOCRATICALLY, ISRAEL HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT AND DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST HAMAS IN ICJ COURT, THIS IS WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS. BUT THEY COULD NOT HAVE THE ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORD `DEFEND`, FOOLISHLY THEY FOLLOW MILITARY WAY. TOO SAD, THEY ALL STAIN THEMSELVES WITH THE EVIL BLOOD OF HAMAS IN GAZA. ISRAEL, SO UNWISELY!
The local PTA has more authority than the ICJ
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Adv Jus Cogens SC
This guy whas most likely paid a lot of money to do this or he was threatened to do this...this is a total bs argument
You are so wrong
BRICKS 😂😂
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Too old for this . Please retire
More reasonable and articulate than you for sure.
weak lawyer..very weak
Look @ that dinosaur mixing up the facts 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂what makes it more funny is that you never saw what happened when he stand up because your a fool , fools concentrate on mistakes as um texting now I'm 100 percent sure that you don't even have Doctorate
Look at this keyboard warrior promoting genocide
When you read about politics, as negative toward RSA, know it's the propoganda machines at work. Because all countries have political issues, but South Africans, and the world, are proud in this pivotal moment. For the fight of humanity. For the freedome of the people in Gaza, etc. Again, thank you South Africa!!!! Excellent job!!