Great review. Probably this review will help people choose between the two cg600 because a lot of your opinions on the pro version are settled in the original. Two specifically: price points: the CGO600 comes in around the $1500 you wanted. Sacrifice? You lose the removable battery but you gain a drop in weight: 1 kg lighter than the pro. Other than that you lose the integrated front light for a removable. If your plan is to buy a bike like this because it will be easier to carry it upstairs, to keep it safe in your home then the integrated battery won’t be as big a deal. If your commute will require you to charge the battery at your desk every day, then your only choice is the pro version. Other than that the two seem almost the same.
For anybody interested in this type of Ebike, take a look at the unique Vanpowers City and Commuter Ebikes. The City is a one of a kind, mortise and tenon assembled Ebike. The Commuter is at even a lower price point and has its own unique features.
If you live in the US then you are much better off getting the ride1up roadster v2 gravel, it's basically the same bike, single speed electric belt drive with 350 kw motor and 40 km'h top speed I mean it's much cheaper and in my opinion it's superior, and also i think a gravel makes more sense so that the big tyres can dampen the road and make the ride more comfortable
Excellent coverage and great humor! Keep it up! I ordered one of these last week. Perfect bike for my commute in Oulu, Finland. My city is pretty flat and the range is more than enough for my 5-20km trips at a time. Always had a single speed bike (this is first e-bike) and thats one of the reason i picked this one. Also low maintenance because of belt drive and no gears factored in. Last but not least, love the sleek design which minimizes attention from possible thieves.
Forgot to mention the weight which makes it so easy to climb stairs with. Many e-bikes are really heavy and that really affects where you can go with it.
@@jonkeli1 Not a single problem with the riding or the assembly. Riding a steep uphill you might want to use third level if you don't want to break a sweat. Second level is mostly fine and on flat surface I ride on level one. Only probelm I've had with the app itself they promise you'll get to see riding stats from it. Signed up and added my bike from the QR code. Hasn't started working yet. Although that's a minor problem for me. Solid 4/5 bike imo.
This is a typical light weight rear hub system with 40Nm of torque. It’s aimed at fairly fit cyclists who want a little added help going up steep hills. In comparison, the very popular Specialized Turbo Creo ($5000) produces 35Nm of torque. The single-speed of the Tenways will limit the max speed, which is okay for a city bike. This would be a nice bike to own if you’re forced to carry it up several flights of stairs.
My city is pretty flat so It should be perfect for me . Going to purchase on Saturday . Plus im happy with going 20mph you’re only legally meant to go 15.5mph anyway in uk
Thanks for the review! I live in Holland - as flat a place as there is - so this thing with a rear rack and rear wheel lock is absolutely perfect for me going around town or going to the beach 😊
Wish it had more pedal assist levels I think, but maybe with it being Toque sensor that is not as important. Love that it is so light. I would probably add a rack, but still 35lb is great. Range is also very good. I’m big on step thru! Noticed the same company (Tenways) has a step thru with similar spec plus a rack for $1699 on sale normal price $1999). Weight is more, rack, front Suspension, and step thru. But still reasonable weight. Overall similar specs accept for the weight. A little different geometry. If they left off the front suspension it would lighten it substantially and keep the price down. Agee that the performance may be lacking, but lightweight, simple, torque sensor, removable battery (hate non removable battery), tires that are reasonable ……. A lot to like. Really love that they make a similar step thru! Step Thru is unusual for a commuter. I may consider this for myself. If this was a mid drive I would jump on it. But a mid drive would probably cost more on a pre built. Johnny, good to hear from you. Love your quick simple reviews! Plus a little bread humor!
Seems like the Vanpowers City and Commuter unique ebikes could save us some dough??? Since, we all knead more bread.... Good luck getting a chance to review them....
i watched 2nd life bikes review on this and fell in love but i guess usa has the model with the integrated headlight????? and that weird shape was sadly a dealbreaker for me 😭
Thx for the review. I tested the bike last weekend, felt overall like a bike that was just right. One thing I’m a bit worried about, the tolerances of the frame. I felt quite strong vibrances of the Gates belt in the bottom bracket. What is your experience with it?
It is a really nice commuter...for a flat city. Single speed with a huge chain ring & only a 350 watt hub must be a beast to pedal up hills. It might be good for mid-town & lower Manhattan but the rest of NYC does have hills. Upper Manhattan is very hilly. I live on one (in the Bronx) that eats street legal hubs.
The rounded edges of that square downtube will help with the buzziness and dull feel of square doentubes used for integrated batteries. That torque sensing helps extend battery life and provides faster response away from constant stops when commuting. My problem with this bike for commuting would be a PIA to fix a flat. That may be nit picking with how seldom we have flats on modern bikes.
Not sure if it will. I do have at least one left in stock though. It’s hard to be a retailer for them. Even with all the warnings i put up in the description, I get a lot of customers getting in over their heads with it or expecting an easy, refined experience 😕
@@JohnnyNerdOut Aw that's too bad. The only one left in stock seems to be the double chainring version, or am I mistaken? Would you happen to have any suggestions for a similar motor to the cyclone 3kw?
Hey Johnny - thanks for this review. My wife is a nurse and I want to get her an e-bike that makes her commute home easy and enjoyable, after a long 12-hour shift. It's a 2-mile ride, but mostly uphill, probably a 3-5% gradient. With that 1 big chain ring and no gears, is this bike a good choice, with the max power output it has? If not - any other suggestions? I like the lightweight, low-maintenance, minimalist aspects of this bike design if it does have enough juice... Would be curious to get your input after going up a long, slow incline like that.
I have the cgo 600 Pro for a few days now. I am 184 cm tall and I have L size frame. My girlfriend (165cm) was able to ride my bicycle normally. So for you even with L frame it should be feasible, and this bicycle is also available in M size
Giant produced a model that was vertically integrated, into the rack. But it's long gone and it was not a mid-drive model . But the posted model is not a mid-drive too. the Vanpowers City and Commuter are unique versions of this type of ebike.... FWIW...
Whad up. From the windy city. Thanks for the vid. Got my fix. That hill is a widow maker. Not too many bikes are gonna make it up that hill. BBS HD. What happened to the speed test? That would be a good bike for here. With the Bb SHD there's too much shifting going on here in Chicago. Too many stop signs stop lights and other traffic. But I wouldn't have it any other way. Need Dat speed decent bike. Battery a little too small. Price is a little high too. Keep up the good work. Thanks
Just happened to punch in Johnny Nerd Out in my RUclips search bar, and this is what I got..Synchronicity...Although, not interested in that thing..Good to know Johnny didn't fall off the edge of the Earth..I don't mind hub motors if they are direct drive 3000-12,000 watts...60--whatever amp controller...Might want to pull that bike up the hill with yer car..How about some videos bro..Gotta be settled in by now..
For $1900, I really want to see manufactures carry different frame sizes. Seriously, the only people in the bike industry who can't manage to do that are big box stores.
@@JohnnyNerdOut how's about a ebike to consider or an ebike to have or an ebike to own. Suggesting your should have one in your garage might seems like I'm being a pedantic so and so but property ownership is a real contentious issue especially in the UK.
Great review. Probably this review will help people choose between the two cg600 because a lot of your opinions on the pro version are settled in the original. Two specifically: price points: the CGO600 comes in around the $1500 you wanted. Sacrifice? You lose the removable battery but you gain a drop in weight: 1 kg lighter than the pro. Other than that you lose the integrated front light for a removable. If your plan is to buy a bike like this because it will be easier to carry it upstairs, to keep it safe in your home then the integrated battery won’t be as big a deal. If your commute will require you to charge the battery at your desk every day, then your only choice is the pro version. Other than that the two seem almost the same.
I wish they would throw gears on this model. The Adventon Soltera has gears and a throttle, and I wish there were more bikes in that category
I looked at these yesterday and could not find a review. But now we have one!
For anybody interested in this type of Ebike, take a look at the unique Vanpowers City and Commuter Ebikes.
The City is a one of a kind, mortise and tenon assembled Ebike. The Commuter is at even a lower price point and has its own unique features.
If you live in the US then you are much better off getting the ride1up roadster v2 gravel,
it's basically the same bike, single speed electric belt drive with 350 kw motor and 40 km'h top speed
I mean it's much cheaper and in my opinion it's superior, and also i think a gravel makes more sense so that the big tyres can dampen the road and make the ride more comfortable
Nice to see you still kicking around!
Excellent coverage and great humor! Keep it up!
I ordered one of these last week. Perfect bike for my commute in Oulu, Finland. My city is pretty flat and the range is more than enough for my 5-20km trips at a time. Always had a single speed bike (this is first e-bike) and thats one of the reason i picked this one. Also low maintenance because of belt drive and no gears factored in. Last but not least, love the sleek design which minimizes attention from possible thieves.
Forgot to mention the weight which makes it so easy to climb stairs with. Many e-bikes are really heavy and that really affects where you can go with it.
@@Jobson85 Kind of interested in such bike myself! Do you think it has been worth the buck so far? Any issues in the hills?
@@jonkeli1 Not a single problem with the riding or the assembly. Riding a steep uphill you might want to use third level if you don't want to break a sweat. Second level is mostly fine and on flat surface I ride on level one. Only probelm I've had with the app itself they promise you'll get to see riding stats from it. Signed up and added my bike from the QR code. Hasn't started working yet. Although that's a minor problem for me. Solid 4/5 bike imo.
This is a typical light weight rear hub system with 40Nm of torque. It’s aimed at fairly fit cyclists who want a little added help going up steep hills. In comparison, the very popular Specialized Turbo Creo ($5000) produces 35Nm of torque. The single-speed of the Tenways will limit the max speed, which is okay for a city bike. This would be a nice bike to own if you’re forced to carry it up several flights of stairs.
@@garyfogal586 EU legislation is what limits the max speed, not the Tenways
My city is pretty flat so It should be perfect for me . Going to purchase on Saturday . Plus im happy with going 20mph you’re only legally meant to go 15.5mph anyway in uk
Thanks for the review! I live in Holland - as flat a place as there is - so this thing with a rear rack and rear wheel lock is absolutely perfect for me going around town or going to the beach 😊
Wish it had more pedal assist levels I think, but maybe with it being Toque sensor that is not as important.
Love that it is so light. I would probably add a rack, but still 35lb is great. Range is also very good.
I’m big on step thru! Noticed the same company (Tenways) has a step thru with similar spec plus a rack for $1699 on sale normal price $1999). Weight is more, rack, front Suspension, and step thru. But still reasonable weight. Overall similar specs accept for the weight. A little different geometry. If they left off the front suspension it would lighten it substantially and keep the price down.
Agee that the performance may be lacking, but lightweight, simple, torque sensor, removable battery (hate non removable battery), tires that are reasonable …….
A lot to like. Really love that they make a similar step thru! Step Thru is unusual for a commuter.
I may consider this for myself. If this was a mid drive I would jump on it. But a mid drive would probably cost more on a pre built.
Johnny, good to hear from you. Love your quick simple reviews! Plus a little bread humor!
Thanks! A lot of comedians are afraid to tackle the whole Bread subject matter these days. It’s a shame.
Seems like the Vanpowers City and Commuter unique ebikes could save us some dough??? Since, we all knead more bread....
Good luck getting a chance to review them....
i watched 2nd life bikes review on this and fell in love but i guess usa has the model with the integrated headlight????? and that weird shape was sadly a dealbreaker for me 😭
It looks a lot like the Ride 1 Up Roadster which costs a lot less.
Thanks for an honest review!
Thx for the review. I tested the bike last weekend, felt overall like a bike that was just right. One thing I’m a bit worried about, the tolerances of the frame. I felt quite strong vibrances of the Gates belt in the bottom bracket. What is your experience with it?
I didn’t feel that. 🤷♂️
It is a really nice commuter...for a flat city. Single speed with a huge chain ring & only a 350 watt hub must be a beast to pedal up hills.
It might be good for mid-town & lower Manhattan but the rest of NYC does have hills. Upper Manhattan is very hilly. I live on one (in the Bronx) that eats street legal hubs.
The rounded edges of that square downtube will help with the buzziness and dull feel of square doentubes used for integrated batteries. That torque sensing helps extend battery life and provides faster response away from constant stops when commuting. My problem with this bike for commuting would be a PIA to fix a flat. That may be nit picking with how seldom we have flats on modern bikes.
damnit I wish there were nice bikes like these around before I bought my heavy fat ebike
Sell the fatty and buy know you want
Loved the dad joke in the beginning. It's so bad that it's good
In the future I see a CVT mid drive ebike
Singlespeed ebikes need a thumb throttle for hill starts.
@@colincampbell4261 actually they don't.
Spring Time ebike reviews ! ⚡
Hey Johnny! Nice review. Hope you are doing well.
Thanks! You too!
Can you put child seat on the back?
Hey Johnny, just a question, what size of bafang motor fits for a BB MT500 89.5/92mm with a spindle of 24mm? TIA...
Hows about a review of the Hovsco HovRanger…
Hey Johnny. The Cyclone 3KW has been showing up as OOS on your website for the past couple weeks/months. Any idea when it might come back in stock?
Not sure if it will. I do have at least one left in stock though.
It’s hard to be a retailer for them. Even with all the warnings i put up in the description, I get a lot of customers getting in over their heads with it or expecting an easy, refined experience 😕
@@JohnnyNerdOut Aw that's too bad. The only one left in stock seems to be the double chainring version, or am I mistaken?
Would you happen to have any suggestions for a similar motor to the cyclone 3kw?
Hey Johnny - thanks for this review. My wife is a nurse and I want to get her an e-bike that makes her commute home easy and enjoyable, after a long 12-hour shift. It's a 2-mile ride, but mostly uphill, probably a 3-5% gradient. With that 1 big chain ring and no gears, is this bike a good choice, with the max power output it has? If not - any other suggestions? I like the lightweight, low-maintenance, minimalist aspects of this bike design if it does have enough juice... Would be curious to get your input after going up a long, slow incline like that.
I hope they do a Pro version for the CGO800 step-through as I'm only 5'7''
I have the cgo 600 Pro for a few days now. I am 184 cm tall and I have L size frame. My girlfriend (165cm) was able to ride my bicycle normally. So for you even with L frame it should be feasible, and this bicycle is also available in M size
I'm kinda curious of what you think of the rack integrated batteries. I'm guessing they throw off the balance benefits of a mid drive.
Giant produced a model that was vertically integrated, into the rack. But it's long gone and it was not a mid-drive model . But the posted model is not a mid-drive too.
the Vanpowers City and Commuter are unique versions of this type of ebike.... FWIW...
Whad up. From the windy city. Thanks for the vid. Got my fix. That hill is a widow maker. Not too many bikes are gonna make it up that hill. BBS HD. What happened to the speed test? That would be a good bike for here. With the Bb SHD there's too much shifting going on here in Chicago.
Too many stop signs stop lights and other traffic. But I wouldn't have it any other way. Need Dat speed decent bike. Battery a little too small. Price is a little high too. Keep up the good work. Thanks
Thanks! 20 mph top speed. No throttle or really any way to go much faster than that It is physically and software maxed to 20 essentially
i'd go with the radMission if i was to ever consider single speed . for a belt i'd wanna multi speed hub with a mid drive .
Just happened to punch in Johnny Nerd Out in my RUclips search bar, and this is what I got..Synchronicity...Although, not interested in that thing..Good to know Johnny didn't fall off the edge of the Earth..I don't mind hub motors if they are direct drive 3000-12,000 watts...60--whatever amp controller...Might want to pull that bike up the hill with yer car..How about some videos bro..Gotta be settled in by now..
Haha, you would think I’d be settled in by now but.. still not a lot of down time to sit in front of a camera yet 🥲
For $1900, I really want to see manufactures carry different frame sizes. Seriously, the only people in the bike industry who can't manage to do that are big box stores.
They do
Not recommended for living in East Tennessee .
What no bread
What happened to this channel? Videos too far in between. Premade bikes reviews. Please get back to doing mid drive conversions please.
Don’t worry I will. I moved across country and had a baby. Passion projects have taken a backseat for the moment but will be returning!
Your title assumes everyone has a garage, they don't!
Very true. Suggestions?
@@JohnnyNerdOut how's about a ebike to consider or an ebike to have or an ebike to own. Suggesting your should have one in your garage might seems like I'm being a pedantic so and so but property ownership is a real contentious issue especially in the UK.
Who cares dude
@@Ben.N you . Clearly! Otherwise why comment !
Mine's got 11 ways, chump.