How to remove pipe olives from copper pipe
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024
- Getting compressed olives off copper pipe, can be quite a problem. Here is my 3 ways of doing it.
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Many thanks Al.
You presented that so well. If you give up the plumbing you could get a job on TV. Lovely easy, no hassle way of showing how the job should be done with a lovely presentational mannerism. Well done!
Thanks very much Chris.
Just bought an olive puller because of this video. Worked like a dream. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Thanks. I didn't have an olive puller but a few washers inside an old fitting did the same job.
Great stuff.
I agree with one of the other comments here - You're a natural Television. Well explained - covered all the options and well told.
Thanks a lot.
A round of applause for the camera there to stay in focus with all that action!
If you like.
Great video. Dug me out of a deep hole after plumber vacated the job and left me with a host of problems. The Olive extractor works like a dream. Thankyou
No problem.
Wow! Just used one of these for the first time after watching your video Al. I wouldn't have known otherwise. Worked perfectly just as you demonstrated. If there was a bafta style award for best RUclips channel for Diy, you would be the winner in my opinion. Thank you!!
That`s very kind of you Mark.
Thanks, bought Oliver puller from your Amazon page. Saves me making a bigger mess when attempting to removing toilet to then cap off for floor fitters.
Glad to help
Thank you so much for that. I'm fixing a leaking pipe and have got to that stage. Dead end. Thank you thank you. You have saved me wasting my whole day.
No problem Tony.
I just bought an olive puller from ebay - you are a lifesaver!!!
No problem.
Thank you!! Been scratching my head wondering how to get them off! Just bought that olive puller
You're welcome!!
Brilliant . Thanks after spending half an hour trying to remove 1 olive I had 4 to remove saw this went out and bought the pulling tool job done 👍
Fantastic!
Great but if kit... I do a lot of property renovations as my day job and I keep meaning to get one of these! (Clicks onto screwfix now). Just wanna take this moment to say thanks for all your content. Quick and straight to the point... no messing about with half hour videos etc with paid promotions etc. If it wouldn’t be too much trouble maybe you wouldn’t mind telling us, your subscribers a little bit about your history in the trade and how you came to be a plumber etc? You seem to have a lot of knowledge and experience in what you do! Thanks again Al! Marc .
Yes Ill give that one a thought.
A fourth option is to gently and carefully grind through the olive/ferrule/compression ring with a Dremel tool fitted with a small tungsten carbide burr. It's about as risky as using a hacksaw, but I did so today and it worked.
Thanks for the tip.
My favourite (plumbing😀) channel.
Wow, thanks! Cheers S J.
Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. Didn't know it existed! Thought the project was a dead end until I've seen this
Thankyou so much
No problem
I've always wanted one of these for microbore but I have never found one! Great video as always 👍
They dont make one.
This was a brilliant video! Explained in a nice and clear way, thank you for taking the time to make the video and for sharing your knowledge, really helpful! Thank you 👍 😊
You're very welcome!
Never seen one of those, good piece of kit, and thanks for the super instruction. Peace be unto you.
You too Martn.
What a great tool! There is a similar tool in bike mechanics called a crank puller for getting chainweels off a square taper bottom bracket. Thanks. I will invest in one of them.
Thanks for the info!
i have seen olive splitters but never heard of an olive puller, neat bit of kit.
Thanks I think they are a really great tool.
Don't mess with this guy he's got a tool for everything
Ha ha.
Good stuff as always! I love the olive puller, and another user has commented about the olive cutter you can buy, again great tool but as mentioned you have to get it square or you can nick the pipe. I also find you can remove an olive with a set of grips, especially on recently fitted compression fittings, space allowing as always
Awesome! Thank you!
Many thanks, wanted to anticipate the problem before I started!
Hope this has helped then.
1st method worked for me, great job!
No problem.
You made a hard job look easy ... thanks for the demo and info.
Glad to help
You can also just use mole/vice grips or anything with teeth on and just grip the olive lightly and turn it to and fro as you ease it off the end of the pipe.
Not mole grips, it is too easy to overclamp them and squeeze the pipe out of shape.
Great little tool I've got the one from Monument which comes with a hex bit at the top so you can attach your drill
Yes those are good.
Bought one from screw fix after watching this. Didn’t know that existed handy tool
Great tool.
With this Olive Puller have you ever experienced the stuck olive/ferrule/compression ring actually shave down or compress the copper pipe (changing it's O.D. outer diameter) as it is being mechanically pulled off with each turn of the tool? This just happened to me. First time I used the tool. My tool does not have the metal rod at the end as a handle to turn the screw by hand...that would have broken in my situation but more likely a human would not have been able to turn it by hand, even just a quarter turn. Mine has a large bolt head at the end where your handle is. I used a 10 inch crescent wrench/spanner for turning or screwing. Immediately, each turn of the end nut rotated everything including the compression nut. I had to hold the Nut on one end of the tool with another wrench while I turned the tightening screw nut at the other end of the tool with my 10" Crescent wrench. It took all my strength (was worried about bending the pipe or breaking something), working in a very tight area. It took about 20 minutes of time to complete the removal at 1/8 th turn of the screw with each effort before repositioning the wrench. The high effort with the first pull of the wrench stayed constant all the until the last pull when it popped off. Eventually I did get the olive/ferrule off but it changed the OD of the copper pipe such that after attaching a new shut off valve with a new olive, even when tightened down full, I could slide the new shut off valve off and on the copper supply pipe (original 5/8" OD, 1/2" ID) by hand with no resistance. I couldn't really find any shavings of copper. The puller and old brass olive acted like an extruder reducing the OD of the pipe it passed over when being mechanically removed. It all seemed so wrong while I was doing this due to the physical effort required but the tool is simple, one cannot screw it up....or can I? Do you have any idea what I was doing wrong or what might have gone wrong with the tool or materials? I'm in the USA, Phoenix, AZ. House was built 20 years ago. Apparently there was a change around the time my house was built re: the composition of copper pipe or wall thickness? but due to the color of my pipe another source said I had the old style pipe....the good stuff and not the new cheaper copper pipe. The olive puller I used is described on the following RUclips channel name - --- seejanedrill ----- video title 'how to remove a stuck ferrule from copper pipe in seconds". The tool I used is made by Dick English. English Tool Company, englishtoolco.com (website no longer comes up)
While writing this I just came across a comment that said "if the original ferrule was overtightened when installed or over tightened after initial installation to stop a leak, what I just described above can happen with these tools. So the big question is, how do you know if the existing ferrule is "overtightened" when you try to remove it? Should this tool work with very light turning pressure and if it requires more than that you stop and got to Plan B for removing the olive/ferrule?
I have heard of this happening when using these tools, I always look at the pipe to see how crushed the olive looks, if it looks like it has been overtighten to extreme's, then like you, I resort to plan B.
thanks dereton33 for that reply. What is confounding to me is the original olive/ferrule showed no obvious signs of deformity while on the pipe or when I got it off the pipe (after performing like an extruder bit on a pipe forming machine). Even side by side or stacked one on top of the other, I could not detect any dimensional differences. With a caliper I'm sure I would have found some difference but it was not obvious and for me not detectable visually. @@dereton33
Hi Al your looking good hope things are going good for you. nice video
Thanks, you too! Keep well mate.
Great, as always ! You’re in your way to 100k subs too! Well deserved!
Thank you very much! Not long now.
Very good videos. Have learned a lot from them.
Glad you like them!
Thanks, the whack it along technique worked a treat!
Excellent!
Wow one of life’s problems solved. That gadget is awesome, thanks 😊😊
Thanks Dotty.
A…. if you could choose the olive puller or cutter would would it be? Love the videos mate. Andy GBC.
Olive puller.
Thanks A….. you do realise who I am???
You can also use the 2hammer tric. One under the ring firm against it and with the other you tick on the olive. Don't bang to hard. If you can turn all around the olive it's good. Or you can twist the olive around the pipe.
No tools, Just skills.
Thanks Marco.
Great video. Really helped me out. Thank you.
No problem 😊
Nice one Al 👍 splitters are great too
Yes they are. Prefer these myself.
this reminds me if David Attenborough narrating a diy ! nice mate,
Thanks 👍
Tap tap worked a dream, thanks very much x
You’re welcome 😊
Great video, a very handy thing to be aware or. Any chance you could do video on toilet flush handles that are pointing up instead of being horizontal. The old syphon type flusher? ? Thanks a million.
Great suggestion!
Hi, trying to remove radiator valve cover, but there isn’t a screw to undo. I don’t want to force it and can’t see how to remove it? Really enjoy your videos very helpful. Thanks.
If there is no screw then it pulls off.
I found 15 mm olive puller was great. But can’t get the 22mm one to work! What am I doing wrong. Can you do a video for 22mm olives
Great suggestion!
You can't beat the olive puller, another alternative if space is really tight, use a file again careful, you can file olive on other side just to weaken it so it opens out, hope that's useful to everybody, 🇬🇧👍.
Thanks for the info!
Brilliant worked first time cheers
No problem.
Is the copper pipe not too narrow now to accept a new olive and seal properly ???
No it will allow a new olive to squish down, if unsure use some PTFE tape or potable boss white.
Thanks you just saved my bacon !
No problem 😊
Use a junior hacksaw but cut at an angle across the olive. Put the blade of a small screwdriver into the slot you have cut, one quick twist and the olive snaps. 30 years...no problems.
So have I but for people not experienced with doing this it is too easy to cut through the pipe.
Is there a tool to get compression reducer couplings off of 10mm microbore pipes?
I dont have much pipe to work with, so really dont want to cut the pipe.
Not that I know of.
Great videos. Could you make one of hissing noises on radiator TRVs when valves are closing and how to fix them?
Yes, soon
I'm not a plumber but i bought one of these olive pulling tools.
A good tool.
Thank you for the lesson
Always welcome
Hi
I need to move my olive about 1cm for a radiator would this work? Does it make it less air tight for the rad connection?
Yes it should do.
Hi is it possible that you can put another fitting over the olive and tighten with old nut
If the thread is the same yes.
Hi al my house was built in the 1970s because of the shortage of copper they used polyorc on the cold water pipes .I've managed to get a copper compression to join to the smaller size but not for bigger pipe how would overcome this thanks alan
An old imperial three quarter coupling may fit it. If not then go from your 15 mm copper fitting up to 22 mm and remove the polyorc pipe work ,a more expensive option I know.
@@dereton33 Hi Derek thanks for getting back to me so fast top man .I've just done what you said and its worked a treat thanks so much 🙏
I've tried to install a new mixer shower but accidently tightened the nuts first causing some compression on the pipe. When I installed the new unit with the copper olives it came with, the cold side was weeping a tiny bit, I came back to it later and tried to nip it up, the slight tightening caused a full blown leak (I assume the olive moved to a section where the pipe was compressed and broke the seal). In a panic I fitted the old unit back on with the old brass olives and the nuts bottomed out, but have sealed. I've bought some PTFE and Water Hawk, but I assume neither will do the trick if the olive can't bite down adequetely? I'm also wondering, when using an olive puller on an overtightened olive, would the olive be strong enough to straighten out the pipe (assuming I'm strong enough)?
Just pull the olives off with the puller it will help straighten the pipe, fit new olives but use a small twist of hemp in front of the olive then use boss white all over the hemp and the olive including behind it.
I used a dremel perpendicular in lieu of the hacksaw. Where eye protection, And don't rush. You don't need to cut all the way through... just far enough to put a flathead in the cut, pry, and crack the olive at which point it will slide off.
Mind you do not push the screwdriver through your finger when it slips off the cut, if it is not deep enough.
@@dereton33 true, it didn't slip on me, but certainly possible in a tighter space at an awkward angle, which happens often enough with plumbing
I used a hacksaw and only went so far. Then with a flat head screwdriver into the cut and turned it to break the olive. I'm no plumber but it's what I had on me at the time.
That is the way I have done it for 50 years.
First method worked for me. 👍🏽
Good to hear
Sweet tool, and great job showing how it works
Thanks 👍
the olive is copper, right? filing it down shouldn't be too tedious, isn't it. that's the first thing that came to my mind, anyway.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Keep up these videos! Their great!😊
Glad you like them!
There is also a olive cutter, slide it over the Olive and squeeze the handles and it cuts the olive on both sides. A quicker alternative to the hacksaw (or dremmel) but I have to admit when I've used mine it has sometimes nicked the pipe too. Nothing has beaten my olive puller
Thanks for the info.
Bro I just moved into a new house and it has a solid fuel central heating system with a lot of switches too so I guess it is electric and solid fuel. Its freezing any idea how to work it?
Not without more info.
I got a olive splitter for 15mm pipe . My mums has 8mm narrow gauge copper pipe . Whats best for narrow gauge. Plz.
Unfortunately the junior hacksaw.
@@dereton33 👍. Thank you.
Can you use the olive puller on flexipipe?
Yes.
Thanks for the tip. 🧰👍
No problem 👍
Great video as always
Appreciate that
Hello I have a question when I turn my bath tub taps on I get very low flow in my bathroom sink taps when I have them running at the same time is there anyway I can solve this ??
Afraid not.
Outstanding! I knew there had to be tool!
You bet!
Got this problem, its an olive puller i need, saw is too risky like you say!!
Good luck with it.
Thank you friend. That helped me.
You're welcome!
You're the man
Ha ha thanks.
Hi All. Can you tell me, does it cost the same amount to run a single radiator, to heat one room, or all five (in my case), on an oil fired central heating system. Ive been googling this recently and cant get a definitive answer. Thanks
It will be cheaper.
@@dereton33 What a stupid nonsensical answer
Mine is stuck on both ends so I'm unable to replace the isolation valve any advice iv trey hack saw stressed out as no hot water coming cheers for any advise
Cut out the isolation valve altogether and fit a full bore lever tap.
@dereton33 can I use hacksaw for this so cut through isolation valve it's self in center
@dereton33 will this give me the pipe space I need still as the 15mm valve I have is inly 24 center meters roughly it's leaking now I was Gina grab dreamily in morning iv capped it off with plumbers putty appreciate your advice
@dereton33 apologies for msg agin . I simple can nor get the valve off as the olives won't alow enough gap .. I was assuming you ment use a pipe cutter flush up to the olive cut either end then apply the full bore as I'm assuming the with of this valve is much longer that standard 1. So would compensate for the loss of pipe each due to cutting out would be very greatfull . As I'm probably gona go buy a dremil today and try and cut the olive as I'm really confused and over whelmed about ut all .look forward to your reply
Genius, good man! Thank you, great site
You're welcome!
I don't need one , probably will never use one but feel the need to buy one for my toolkit - a bit like women and their shoes men and their speciality tools!
I know the feeling.
Thanks - very helpful - Can you reuse the olive if replacing like for like (e.g., stop cock for stop cock) or stop cock to full bore valve?
In most cases yes.
as always al a good video.
Thanks again! Keep well Ratch.
There should be an attachment for a slide hammer. Then space is not a problem
Shame there isnt.
This reminds me of a bicycle crank arm puller.
similar
Life saver 👍
No problem.
Thank you very much
You are welcome
2:00 use a dremel cut off wheel to notch the ring (not pipe)
Thanks.
Great vid pal....
No problem.
Just looking at a few videos about what I call "compression fittings" and the "feral" that creates the seal and gets stuck onto the pipe when removing an old one. Now here in the states we call it a compression fitting with a feral. Had to watch several videos before noticing the accent of those that call this fitting an "olive" fitting". Boy was I confused!!!
In England we call em olives. Nothing to do with olive oil from popey
Monument olive cutter in my tool bag or a Rothenberger multi olive cutter 👍👍👍
Good tools Paul.
@@dereton33 quality Al 👍 like you 😅😅😅
Thanks so much!!!
No problem
So, the pipe can be reused?
Yes
Wow thank you very much 👌
No problem 😊
Thank you
You're welcome
Looks like you would have to buy a tool for all pipe diameters though.
Yes.
Thankyou sir
No problem
Fantastic.
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks 👍
No problem 👍
Anyone know where to get a 1/2 inch version?
From an old plumber.
I only cut halfway through the olive ..put a flat screwdriver in the notch an snap it off
I also do that but it is easy to nick the pipe.
Perfect, I think lol , thanks 👍👍
No problem.
Nice one :)
Thanks.