It's most likely vaporware. I think Kodak realized that they couldn't produce what would have been a niche product at anything resembling a reasonable price. Look at how the price just kept jumping in price significantly every year while they were still promoting it.
@@chessmagic5300 Image stabilization, as discussed in Chapter 4, “Lens Features,” allows you to hand hold pictures with slower shutter speeds. Many Sony, Olympus, and Pentax have it built into the body. Other manufacturers put it into the lenses. Having stabilization built into the body, known as In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS), has no benefit for users who use only kit lenses. Since all manufacturers offer image stabilization with their kit lenses, your results will be similar. However, IBIS has massive benefits to those of us who use fast prime lenses in low-light conditions. Many photographers can get sharp hand-held pictures with a 50mm lens at 1/ 10th of a second. Photography-Buying-Guide by Tony Northrup-July-2022 (Kindle Locations 1898-1903). Kindle Edition.
We just bought this camera and I love it. I usually don’t like cameras and messing with the settings etc, and wind up not using them and just using my phone. I was using this one happily and reaching for it immediately, again and again. The touchscreen and auto focus is awesome.
I think the camera is great and the viewfinder is very easy to see and clear, even for people who wear glasses. You can also see the corners of the image very well. Especially if you use viewfinder mode 2 with the displays outside the viewfinder field. In any case, a little better than with the RP. As a person who wears glasses, i am often annoyed by viewfinders that are difficult to see like Fuji X-S10 and X-E4.
It's only worth the premium if you're interested in a bigger crop camera. After using a full frame for so many years a big crop camera just doesn't make sense. To me at least, but I absolutely need a small camera for my walk arounds for landscape and for random portraits. So I've been tracking this camera pretty closely, because For the Love of All That's holy I cannot wholeheartedly trust the AF on my third m62. I had no such issues with my m1, and an M50 is well tailored for landscapes instead of people do to the ridiculous noisy sensor. But at least the AF is more or less trustworthy. If you can't trust the AF the camera is almost garbage. So that's what I'm looking at this camera for I need AF stability like I used to have with my rebels and the M1.
@@simonmaduxx6777 if photography is all you want,and portability is another criteria,than a6000 series is literally for you,you cant get a smaller body or better autofocus than that
@@danieldougan269 Yes it is. It's closer to the R6 than to the R10 in size. The R10 is a bit smaller than the RP, and I prefer to carry the latter around for casual stuff almost always over my R6. Which is why I want an R10, as it's faster and has better video features.
@Simon Maduxx I have an M50 mk ii and I shoot sports and motorsports with it, no issues with noise in the right conditions and using good lenses. Shot kids sports with the 55-200 with razor sharp images. Extremely pleased with it and the autofocus was brilliant. Canon autofocus is best in the business and for all but professionals, the M50 mk ii autofocus is brilliant. The R10 is nice and is almost perfect were it not that it's not weatherproof. But it's still noticeably bigger than the M50 and that is why for me, I'll be holding onto the M50. And the discussion about lenses is pointless to me. I have 12 lenses (8 EF-M and 4 EF Canon lenses) and am covered between my primes and zooms.
About the camera defaulting back to 1080p after turning off slow-motion: The R6 also does that. It is extremely annoying when it you switch back, shoot a clip and realize it's only 1080p instead of 4K, especially so if it's something you cannot repeat.
@@ReflexVE Jordan with that EF 85/1.8 is a anomaly...other channels don't experience the same issues. And since Jordan didn't have other EF lens for testing. Tbh I disregard his comment on AF.
I am committed to the Canon M platform. But I see Canon making some of the same mistakes already with their APS-C R platform. A smaller rangefinder style camera is coming, but that seems to be years away. Same for super premium native glass. It's too late now, but I regret not choosing FujiFilm X. The XT-4 is way more than I ever need, but man, what a camera and system. To those who haven't committed to a mirrorless platform yet, I strongly recommend they hold a Fujifilm camera first.
Is Fuji making good camera with bad focus system? I see some reviews complaint on it. That stop me from buying Fuji much more expensive product compare to other brand...
I too am all in on the M50 mk ii. I've bought all but the 18-150 EF-M lenses, the Sigma lenses and some quality EF lenses with adapter. For me, it's more than enough camera. I shoot sports, motorsports, car shows and family shots and for that it's golden. From all reviews, Fuji autofocus seems to suck and for my style of photography that's terrible. In fact, in general I think having a solid autofocus is critical. There really isn't a lens I feel I am missing to be honest. I shoot mainly primes but when I need a zoom I have that more than covered. The M50 is alot of camera for the money and the EF-M/EF lenses (2nd hand) are much cheaper than Fuji lenses and better quality from what I've seen. I see the appeal with Fujifilm with their larger lens selection but if you have an M50 and you're a hobbyist/enthusiast, it can take you a long way
The biggest problem with this video is that by incorrectly labeling this camera as an "entry-level camera" you offered advice to people looking for a first camera. Officially Canon has said that their main target audience for this camera are Canon users looking to upgrade from their DSLR cameras (that is why they are offering a free ef-rf adaptor). Unfortunately, you completely ignored this large segment of the buying audience. I have an M6II and an 80D with ef-s lenses. It would have been nice to see comparisons to see if it is worth switching over.
This ^^^ a lot of people in the comments don’t get that. “The R7 is better!!”. Well no shit, it’s $1500 for just the body alone, while the R10 is $1000 with the lens included. So of course the R7 is going to be better in many ways. For $1000, you’re getting almost everything in an R7, but with a crop sensor and some other differences. The R10 is def not entry level. I had the M50 Mark 2, and even that’s slightly higher than “entry level” at $500. I’m blessed to be able to afford an R10, but it’s def not even close to entry level. You can get a used T series for like $300 in my area. that’s truly entry level! $500+ is not. Especially, when you factor in a lens into the R10 price 🤣🤣 it shoots it up to an R7 setup. those RT lenses can go up to $2K easily!!
I’ve just bought a R10 18-45 kit, It’s the 5th camera I’ve owned over nearly 20 years. It’s replacing my broken 200Dii (rebel SL3/250D) for video use. I would have much preferred a Fuji Xh2s (minimal rolling shutter) or Sony FX30 (no overheating) but couldn’t justify spending 3 times as much. The R10 seemed the best compromise of features vs price for my needs.
Compared to the Nikon and Canon (I don’t know about Sony), Fuji has a larger collection of lenses to choose from. A discussion point when comparing with the Z50, but not mentioned with the XS-10. What is know considered to be entry level are all very capable cameras, and the gap to the mid level models is quite small. Maybe it is fair to conclude that the entry level is being phased out (competition from the phone cameras) and that dedicated photo and video capable cameras are pretty well specked.
Fujifilm does have 35 prime and zoom lenses alltogether, i wrote serveral days before here under another video, plus 2 teleconverters, not counting serveral 3rd party lenses from Sigma, Tamron & Viltrox. If you want the biggest, most complete APS-C lenses lineup into the business, Fujifilm is the way to go. Thing is, that the new APS-C entry level seems to be starting into 2022 at ca. 799 EUR (Z-50, body only) or even 949 EUR (X-E4, without lens) and the EOS R10 is 979 EUR w/o lens, the X-S10 is currently 1049 EUR, and even the X100V got a price bump from ordinary 1399 EUR to now 1599 EUR, so a full 200 EUR more than ever before, and since release into 2020. Into contrast, the EOS RP with the slightly inferior, slow kitlens could being had for just a week for 899 EUR with the 24-105 STM together as kit. The new X-H2s seems to be way fast, and a capable camera, for those who need the speed and it's video features. And for the MP lovers, the X-H2 comes out way soon with 40 MP via APS-C. It's fair enough to say, that if one doesn't need all the speed, and latest features, you can still have lot of fun enjoying photography with much older generations, because it's good enough. Into 2022 - there's enough for anyone, to pick up the matching camera. From a 10-20 buck Film SLR with matching nifty fifty, to the latest high end gear for serveral grand, it all depends, what you want to spent, what you need most. etc. Greetings
You have to admire the balls of Canon for hijacking their own products. Crap video AF and that LPE17?? Didn't they learn from the RP?? Holding out for R8 or R9 later in the year.
R10 +Rf100-500mm is a killer combo for bird photography ,reach 800mm in ff terms.Birds eye af is fantastic-even slightly better than in r6 which I had earlier. Compared to full frame bodies noise level on high ISO are very high but luckily we have Topaz denoise. I have also Sony a7lll +FE 200-600mm full frame combo ,but despite higher noise I use my Canon combo more. AF in this Canon aps-c body is so good.
Not bad for a solo act. I only counted one time where the camera lost focus on your face. Otherwise you maintained the aesthetic of a typical DPReview video. 👍
He mentioned he had to reshoot a lot of takes and ended up switching to manual focus, so you've only seen one example of AF drifting that he chose to leave in for demonstration purposes.
I have had my R10 and 18-150 since August 1st. Previously used a Canon Eos M50 and ef-m 18-150. Initially I was going to have an R7, but I really couldn't get on with the grip, far to uncomfortable for my liking. Anyway I have found the R10 to be a great upgrade over the M50. Better handling, better battery life, the evf is better (to my eyes at least). AF is very impressive, photographing trains with vehicle detect af and servo works a treat and I can rely on it, faster, more responsive from shot to shot than the M50. Image quality to my eyes is better than the M50 at higher iso. I also would say the Rf 18-150 is better optically than the ef-m version, I don't see anywhere near as much c/a in the rf lens. Plus the rf lens focuses closer, especially at the wide end when switched to mf. It is certainly an enjoyable camera to use. I have used it with a sigma 105f2.8 macro and a canon 70-300 is ii via the canon adapter. These lenses work great. The animal detect was very good indeed. The only thing I have tried on video is the option in 1080 to select the upto 10x zoom. I was quite pleased with this being on there, haven't seen it on a canon since the 70d I had. That will be great for catching distant wildlife moments. Currently only tried it on the moon. Which I was quite impressed with. So all in all I think it is great value for money camera. I have not been disappointed and In some respects my expectations have been exceeded. If anyone would like to take a look at the video of the moon and 10x zoom it's here ruclips.net/video/JfaibVCLrYQ/видео.html Also if you would like to see pictures from it, I have an album on my flickr for the R10 pics here flic.kr/s/aHBqjA2S3P . Hope it's ok to pop these links in the comments. just thought it might help with decisions.
hey i want to buy my 1st ever camera...should i get r10 or r7? im not very well versed in camera stuff...but i heard the r7 is safer since its weather protected and what not plus i have shaky hands so IBIS sounds good too..can u plz help... plus once i remove the lens will the senor be protected somehow in r10 or no?
@@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman Everything you said is correct and the fact you even mentioned those particular things suggests the R7 is the way to go for you. It's definitely a far better all-round camera and if you ever shoot anything important, it has dual card slots too (so you get a backup of what you're shooting, in case one card becomes corrupted).
@@cooloox dang it i guess i have been in denial about r7 cz of r10s lower price but i guess ill save up and get r7 then...thanks alot i needed to hear it from someone who knew their stuff
@@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman if you have shaky hands you need IBIS. The video already mentioned the alternative - X-S10. The cheapest option for getting IBIS I know of is a used X-H1, which goes for as little as $500-600 these days - it's a heavier pro-level camera but if that doesn't bother you it's a lot cheaper than the R7, albeit with last-generation autofocus. If you absolutely must have animal and planes, trains, automobiles autofocus, you're stuck with shelling out the extra money for an R7 or waiting until the next generation improvements come out for other systems like Sony or Fujifilm - the latest AF from the X-H2S will probably take another year or so to trickle down to the mid range.
@@problemat1que itll definitely eat up a full 2 month salary but i guess r7 is worth it... ill get it whenever it becomes available in my region ...cant wait to get started with it... you guys were so very helpful...thank u so much💫✨️
For me, it’s fujifilm all the way. I have the xs10, and it’s my favorite camera. Plus, we have the fujifilm film simulations. No other company offers you that. And to go even further, there’s a community of people who have created film recipes that can give you amazing SOOC jpegs. The only thing I would say is good about the canon, is autofocus. And funny enough, as you was comparing the canon against the Fuji, canon decided to lose focus. 😂
Canon, Nikon or Sony for me. Nothing special about Fuji colours and who cares about film simulations? I shot film for over 20 years, I have zero interest in my DIGITAL camera emulating film. I prefer the more accurate images coming out of digital cameras. It's so easy to simulate film in post, if that's your thing, but shooting JPEG removes the ability to fully access the dynamic range of your sensor. The main 3 brands have superior lenses too, especially for full frame. The Sigma 1.4 trio of lenses introduced to Fuji slightly beat out the existing closest Fuji lenses. Those 3 lenses don't come close to decent Canon/Nikon/Sony lenses. Even the Canon EF-M 32mm 1.4 is much better than the Sigma 30mm 1.4.
@@cooloox LMFTFY The main 3 brands have superior lenses ONLY for full frame. That's the point, you have to shell out the big bucks and carry pounds of unnecessary glass if you're an APS-C photographer with these brands. Most APS-C photographer are quite cost sensitive, so dollar for dollar, a native system like Fujifilm is a massive upgrade in performance over the second and third tier lenses of the FF brands and weighs less in the bag.
The EOS M50 Mark II is smaller, lighter, cheaper, and has arguably better, more affordable lenses. I wish you would have talked about where the R10 fits into Canon's overall lineup, but you've also never tested the M50 Mark II on this channel. The R10 has access to all of Canon's RF glass, but if you're buying a multi-thousand-dollar lens for an R10... you should have just bought an R6 or RP or something else, since that lens is going to be huge and heavy and its potential isn't fully realized due to the lack of a full frame sensor. Right now, Canon has ported two of their EF-M lenses to RF for the R10 and the R7 cameras, but one of the two actually has worse specs than the original EF-M lens had, and those were not the most stellar EF-M lenses in the first place. Canon has said that the EF-M platform isn't dead yet, so their lineup is a bit confusing, but I think EF-M is better at being an APS-C camera, and the lens selection is perfectly reasonable on that platform these days. Whether Canon continues developing lots of new lenses or not is mostly irrelevant to the person who has their needs met now, and there are third party lenses on the mount these days. The R10's main advantage over the M50 Mark II is in video capabilities, but this video demonstrates the focus wandering off even in a static shot with a clear subject, and Chris reported switching to manual focus... so if video on a budget is what you're after, Canon may not be the way to go. I enjoy my Sony A7IV, but the M50 Mark II seems like a very well-rounded budget camera option for a lot of people. I don't understand where the R7 and the R10 are supposed to fit into Canon's lineup, and if Canon releases an M50 Mark III, it will likely be an even more obvious choice over them.
To answer your question. canon R7 and R10 sre to fit in their R mount systems. Of cause canon is killing the M but they are not going to announce it. And the M50 mrkii DON"T do 4k 60p, 15 FPS, The Af is not on par to R system with animal Face detection. The M50 markii is just a repackage of mark 1 with upgraded software which canon can easily put it in the firmware. I don't see canon coming out with Anymore M mount. I hope I'm wrong.
The R10 and R7 obviously have bad firmware when it comes to video AF - Canon cameras have performed much, much better than this for over 5 years now. I hope it’ll get fixed soon. As to the RF-S lenses, extra ones are sure to come relatively soon, and then Canon have very solid offerings on RF at the lower end of the spectrum. The 24mm and 35mm f/1.8 are cheaper than those of any first party manufacturer, and well suited for APS bodies as well. The 100-400mm is a killer lens for the price, the 16mm f/2.8 performs quite well in crop mode, and the 600mm and 800mm give you extreme reach for comparative peanuts.
If Canon is clever then they port some of the EF-M lenses to RF-S. Once done the can develop further RF-S lenses and make them available with RF-S or EF-M mount.
@@Ildskalli 35mm f/1.8 is equivalent to 56mm f/2.9 when placed on the R10, and it costs $20 more than the 32mm f/1.4 lens that Canon offers for EF-M, which is equivalent to a 50mm f/2.2, so the EF-M lens is spec’d better, and reviews of its optical quality in practice are phenomenal. The RF lens also weighs 30% more for the privilege of being more expensive and worse on an APS-C body. I agree the R10 and R7 have *some* advantages… but not many, and they’re very confusing cameras to exist at all.
Much as the R10 seems to be a great camera, it’s still too large for what I want, and the EOS R lens line is still missing an inexpensive, fast, wide angle prime. When Canon makes an EOS R50 to replace the EOS M50 and an RF 22 mm f/2.0 STM to replace the EF 22 mm f/2.0 STM, for less than $900 USD for the pair, they are going to sell a lot of them.
It seems like Canon is forever dangling future lens releases in front of their APS-C customers. In the meantime, I'm simply adapting an EF-S 10-18 F5.6 to my Fuji bodies for ultrawide because it's a lot cheaper than the native 10-24 F4. Of course that's a bigger package and I have to juggle the adapter.
Everybody comments that the lack of apsc lenses for both canon and nikon is not really a problem because one can adapt older or more modern full frame lenses. Why buy a small camera system and then stick large, heavy and sometimes very expensive glass on the front with an adapter? Does not make sense to me.
Not to mention it change the focal length of those lenses. Your 40mm lens becomes closer to a 60mm lens, your 85mm lens becomes closer to a 130mm lens. Full frame lenses can also be softer on smaller bodies, because you're literally creating about the same sized picture from a smaller area of the lens. On top of all that, with these smaller lighter bodies, you end up with a front heavy camera if you use typical or larger adapted lenses, especially since that weight is extended from the body by an adapter. There's also a plethora of other issues, like distortion correction. While full frame lenses can be used on APSC bodies, they're not optically designed to be their best on APSC bodies. Most lenses are optically designed for 30MP or less. But when you shrink down the area you're taking an image from, it's like shooting 100MP full frame on a cheap lens....you're going to have tons of softness when you zoom in. And then when you need to crop, that softness is going to be exhibited even more. When you try to sharpen an already soft photo, you get all kinds of nastiness because it can't adequately isolate sharp details from blurry details, so even with a masking slider, you're still going to end up sharping tons of out of focus details that you don't want to.
You should leave those focus-drifting shots in the next camera review video guys. Gives a good example as to what real consumers can expect. Obviously if you reshoot a video until you have perfect AF, the AF will look great.
I am either on the R50 or R10. I know you said R7 but the price for it is definitely next level. Now I am in a canon camera review video binge watch session cause I really wanna get one
Great summery, use the r7 and bought it particularly for video but also as hybrid camera. As it’s for RUclips I shot myself and had so far no issues with autofocus in video. It’s for me the best insta/ RUclips creator cam but that’s me. Cheers guys 👍🏻
Thank you for the detailed review. Have you informed Canon of the AF woes in video? It’s absolutely unacceptable, and clearly a defect, because none of their other RF cameras do that. I hope you do, as they’ll probably hear established reviewers like you and Jordan more keenly than random users.
Finally ... Finally Chris brought the light with Fuji .. tony and jerad strangely avoided comparing with fuji and still Chris, I dont know either intentionally or mistakenly ignored that Fuji has the B S I sensor.
I'd love to see you compare it to the 90D. Again, it's an older camera, but also more megapixels, headphone jack, longer battery life, more lens options. Is it worth changing to mirrorless?
You'd change from a 90D to an R7, not to an R10. The R7 kills the 90D in most ways and definitely in terms of sharpness and lower ISO noise. The AF is light years ahead, too, of that antiquated DSLR focusing. I have a 7D Mk II, which focuses way better than a 90D, yet nowhere near as good as my RP or M6 Mk II. The R7 AF is much better than those 2 cameras.
if we forget the existence of available cameras like the z5, d750, d7200, RP, 5-3 80d, 7R-2, 7-2, 77-2, a6100, xt30 and xt200, em10-4. Then yes the new purchase and the extra cost of the latest lenses makes sense. But yes lovely coloures there and the R10 does look cool as long as you don't take the lens off
I wouldn't even consider a DSLR. I bought a mint condition 7D Mk II for nostalgia and fun (and it certainly is fun to use) but it doesn't come close to even an entry-level M50 in terms of AF tracking. The RP and M6 Mk II kill it, and the 7D Mk II has vastly superior AF to the 80D, 90D, D7200 etc. DSLRs are a total waste of time for anyone starting out today.
the comparison witht eh X-S10 makes sense, however, I think you should not underestimate the X-T3. It's still being produced and sold brand new for about teh same price as both the X-S10 and R10, so it a very valid option. It's also very similar to the R10 : both can shoot 4K60, have similar resolutions, neither have IBIS or great battery life, however the X-T3 has weather sealing, double SD slots so that might be a better option for someone that wants to go pro.
I think that for those torn between the X-S10 and the EOS R10 and looking to shoot video it should be noted that while the X-S10 does have more frame rate options (up to 240fps), it doesn’t offer 4k above 30fps, while the EOS R10 does (4k up to 60fps and full HD up to 120fps which isn’t bad either). X-S10 also has a maximum recording time of about 30 minutes while the EOS R10 stops at 2 hours, so that’s definitely something to consider
The AF for stills with that 1.6 crop factor for wildlife is the deciding factor for me. A spare battery is a standard part of every camera purchase I've ever made, so that's a given. Entry level would be an R100, this seems more in line with a mid level APS-C product like the 90D, while the R7 would be in line with the 7D Mk 2
Chris, I'm concerned that some folks say that the articulating screen is fuzzy and insufficiently lit - which would be a problem if I were to shoot macro with manual focus - please advise of your experience with the articulating screen, thank you! Thanks for another great video!
I find the R10 and 18-45 kit good for video use. The 4K60 hasn’t shown a temperature indicator even after 15 minutes + outdoors at 20-21 degrees C and the rolling shutter was a big improvement over my previous 200Dii ( 250D/rebel SL3). I liked the focus guide when manual focusing- easy to find infinity focus, and I confirmed it’s accuracy by zooming in 10x. I needed to leave this on as the screen resolution drops to save battery shortly after starting recording ( I believe this can be adjusted/turned off) but it looks out of focus on the low res screen - thankfully the video wasn’t. The whole camera and lens has a very light (plastic) feel to it so be careful handling it.
I thought the same thing while watching. The autofocus improvements are a tremendous advantage over the RP, but I’d like to see comparisons of ISO performance, dynamic range, color depth in real-world settings.
excellent video and explanation, but I would still like to know for the first camera for a total amateur to shoot some portraits and landscape which would be the best choice, the r10 or the x-s10? Thanks
Really tempted by this for wildlife photography, but Canon isn't really inspiring these days (They blocked 3. party lenses for the RF mount). Thanks for the review Chris
You've got the best glass on the old EF platform. I'd go for it. 400mm, 500mm, 600mm f4 primes from the EF line are cheeeeap these days. Right now, you can get a 500mm F4 USM II for 1500$ compared to its original price tag of 9000$ seems like a no Brainer. Heck, most pro wildlife photographers are still using ancient manual lenses. Just worked with a guy that did a nature show for Netflix that used a 20 year old Nikkor 500mm F4 all manual.
Thanks for the very informative video! I am looking to upgrade my Nikon b700 camera. I dont have much experience in the system camera world yet, but I am interested in making the step to system cameras. With my old Nikon b700 I loved to take pictures of wildlife and to travel. Now I am looking for a good successor to this camera but with better and faster autofocus and better performance in low light. I found the Canon R10 and the Fujifilm x-s10. Personally, I find the choice between these two quite difficult. On the one hand, the autofocus of the Canon R10 is very good and fast, but the Fujifilm has IBIS and a wider range of apsc lenses. On the other hand I wonder if Fujifilm is suitable as a wildlife camera. What do you recommend?
I came from vacation with a DSLR. Not surprising that I did not used it much but the image quality and boken still desirable. I'd like a smartphone with larger sensors just to get rid of too much sharpening/contrast/fake sharpness
Technical and important question : The lens canon rf 100-400 has the same weight of the r10 using those lenses regularly with the strap at the neck could bend one or both the devices?
Thank you! I'm getting ready to purchase this and am a little nervous as this is the top of my budget. I'm very novice but would love to make this a hobby/side hustle. :)
What do you think about speed-boosters for canon r10. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography. Reviews please? 🙏
Hello Master: Please help and give me some advice, The camera I am currently using is Canon EOS R10, The kit lens used with it is (RF-S18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM) My main subject matter is toy photography. The secondary shooting content is street photography or portrait photos. Now I want to buy new lenses, after watching your video, Want to compare between Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM and RF85mm F2 Macro IS STM After making a choice, I would like to ask you to give me some advice on which lens is more suitable for me? Thank you.🙏
How is it with the noise? When using EF lenses, is the grip still comfortable? Canon should work on the noise. If mobile phones had a larger sensor, thanks to the software, mirrorless manufacturers might have a problem.
Was just about to pull the trigger on this one as need something compact for travel. But there are no affordable lenses for non-professionals, and the fuji x-s20 just dropped yesterday. I have few fuji primes so will go for the x-s20 instead.
Great video. I think you could have explained better the lack of lenses. When I was first getting into photography the reviews I watched confused me since I heard I could use full frame lenses with my apsc body not realizing those lenses are 2-3x the cost that they need to be.
You can buy second hand glass, most people are treating their expensive lenses careful so a used lens is a good option if you want cheaper lenses for your camera. I am talking about the EF lenses you can use with the adapter :)
As a canon guy who uses full frame and crop, I can tell you that the lens situation is an absolute disaster - if you're not buying L lenses anyway. RF lenses that are not L have a mixture of being uninteresting, slow, optically not that great, or just flat out boring. Choices are very very limited, and the mounts are closed so your only choice besides Canon's meager offerings is EF adapter and older third-party glass. I just bought one of the sigma trio for efm. The 31.4. it has chromatic aberration problems for sure, but seeing drop dead sharp images at 1.4 is really mind boggling even if it's on crop. But buying RF full frame if you don't have a stash of EF lenses to adapt, or you're begging for some serious financial pain. It is utterly insane.
We've definitely addressed this in our specific brand review videos where we mention what we think they do well, and what they need to change. Please have a look when you get a chance.
Looking to buy a camera for the first time. Recently went to Arizona and every day was a new hike with beautiful scenery. Made me jealous I didn’t have a camera. I’ve been looking for a good beginner camera because I have never done real photography other than my phone. Most review websites seem to tell me this is a solid camera if I don’t have a budget. If anyone sees this comment please respond to me, will this camera be good for me ?
Same, waiting for more comparisons but it's sounding like zv-e10 is a better deal just lacking 4K 60. The next canon rumoured to be zv-e10 competitor might be a better comparison but I bet crippled. Lol. When Sony start using Bionz XR in apsc then I think Canon will fare badly.
R10 is way better camera than ZV-E10. Not even close, BUT... lenses. Sony 11mm, 15mm, Sigma 18-50, Sigma 16/30/56.... Nothing like this available for RF mount. Thats why you need to see lenses first before choosing camera. If I would like to get bigger glass like Sigma 18-35 EF then I would choose R10. If I would want small setup with Sony 11mm + Sigma 18-50 + Sigma 56mm... then ofc Sony. Similiar lenses for R10 will weight 2x more as there are no RF APS-C lenses, neither Canon or Sigma. I would love to have good camera and small lenses so thats why Im waiting for new Sony APS-C body and if that doesnt happen in this year than I'll go Fujifilm which will get Sigma 18-50 by end of the year Sigma 18-50 f2.8 is a gem. So small, light like kit, pretty bokeh and constant aperture. I want to switch from my Panasonic Lumix G9 just because of this lens
@@movielover2172 Of course they will but we dont know how they will look, perform, what price... I wouldnt buy camera because "it will be better in future". If its gonna be better in future then I'll buy it in future for lower price (rebates or used). :) If I would need to buy something now I wouldnt choose Sony APS-C because bodies are completly outdated and I wouldnt choose Canon APS-C, because theres not enough lenses. I would go with Fujifilm. But, if we wait some time until Sony releases ZV-E20 or whatever they will call it and Canon will have new lenses then its different story. Then Fujifilm will be kinda behind (slower autofocus etc.), but for now they are the best at around $1000 price range.
Hi bro, Iam planning to buy an Canon R 10. I was buying for my personal usage, need to take cinematic portraits photo for my baby and travel usage so completely for my personal usage. I saw the Canon R10 with kit lens 18-150mm combo box. So please suggest this combo is suitable for me or i want to buy canon RF 50mm lens for cinematic portraits as you shown in this video. Iam confusing for choosing the lens, please suggest me the best lens for my usage brother?
Will it be a big change if i replace the canon d1300d with the canon r10, i will add that i am intermediate and want to photograph birds, animals and sometimes landscapes and some portraits
Is it just me? It seems like Canon's face detect AF in video mode has taken a few steps back over the years. I used to shoot video with a 70D, then an 80D, then a 90D, then switched to an R, then an RP, then shot with an R5 for a while, and currently with an R6, and my memory may be failing me, but back in the 70-90D days, the face detect was rock solid, and now, depending on the model of camera you get, not so much. This is a basic core competency in my book. If you have a face in focus, don't change what you're focusing on unless the user touches the screen to focus on something else. It's almost like Canon has been really stepping up the video quality specs, but at the cost of less performant AF, whereas back in the day, their video quality wasn't as good as other hybrid cameras, but the dual pixel AF was class leading, at least for face detect in video mode.
Recieved my R10 yesterday, the aperture won't budge from "F00", settings are not "locked", camera is in manual mode, natters not whether a lens is attached. HELP!!!!!!! Please!! Thank you!
I seriously need you guys to figure out whatever happened to the Kodak Super 8 Digital Camera.
Honestly, I would love to see a video like that. I wish I could shoot super 8 today
@@TrueKyanite you actually can!
@@TrueKyanite You certainly can. A 50-foot cartridge of pro-grade film, processing, and a cinema-quality scan to video will cost about $260!
Weird seeing a famous youtuber out in the wild just commenting. I've always imagined you as a fictional person. 😂
It's most likely vaporware. I think Kodak realized that they couldn't produce what would have been a niche product at anything resembling a reasonable price. Look at how the price just kept jumping in price significantly every year while they were still promoting it.
Thank you Chris for another fantastic episode!
R10 plus the 100-400mm f5.6-f8 looks like a fantastic starting point to wildlife photography!
Doesn’t image quality drops down due to no ibis in R10
@@chessmagic5300 Image stabilization, as discussed in Chapter 4, “Lens Features,” allows you to hand hold pictures with slower shutter speeds. Many Sony, Olympus, and Pentax have it built into the body. Other manufacturers put it into the lenses. Having stabilization built into the body, known as In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS), has no benefit for users who use only kit lenses. Since all manufacturers offer image stabilization with their kit lenses, your results will be similar. However, IBIS has massive benefits to those of us who use fast prime lenses in low-light conditions. Many photographers can get sharp hand-held pictures with a 50mm lens at 1/ 10th of a second.
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@@chessmagic5300 Your technique is the problem!
We just bought this camera and I love it. I usually don’t like cameras and messing with the settings etc, and wind up not using them and just using my phone.
I was using this one happily and reaching for it immediately, again and again. The touchscreen and auto focus is awesome.
I think the camera is great and the viewfinder is very easy to see and clear, even for people who wear glasses. You can also see the corners of the image very well. Especially if you use viewfinder mode 2 with the displays outside the viewfinder field. In any case, a little better than with the RP. As a person who wears glasses, i am often annoyed by viewfinders that are difficult to see like Fuji X-S10 and X-E4.
Thank you for pointing that out! I think that info just confirms my decision to buy this camera.
The video looks great, but I would definitely lean R7 for the weather sealing, IBIS, headphone jack, and dual SD card slots. Well worth the premium.
It's only worth the premium if you're interested in a bigger crop camera. After using a full frame for so many years a big crop camera just doesn't make sense. To me at least, but I absolutely need a small camera for my walk arounds for landscape and for random portraits. So I've been tracking this camera pretty closely, because For the Love of All That's holy I cannot wholeheartedly trust the AF on my third m62. I had no such issues with my m1, and an M50 is well tailored for landscapes instead of people do to the ridiculous noisy sensor. But at least the AF is more or less trustworthy. If you can't trust the AF the camera is almost garbage. So that's what I'm looking at this camera for I need AF stability like I used to have with my rebels and the M1.
@@simonmaduxx6777 if photography is all you want,and portability is another criteria,than a6000 series is literally for you,you cant get a smaller body or better autofocus than that
@@simonmaduxx6777 Is the R7 significantly bigger than the R10?
@@danieldougan269
Yes it is. It's closer to the R6 than to the R10 in size. The R10 is a bit smaller than the RP, and I prefer to carry the latter around for casual stuff almost always over my R6. Which is why I want an R10, as it's faster and has better video features.
@Simon Maduxx I have an M50 mk ii and I shoot sports and motorsports with it, no issues with noise in the right conditions and using good lenses.
Shot kids sports with the 55-200 with razor sharp images. Extremely pleased with it and the autofocus was brilliant. Canon autofocus is best in the business and for all but professionals, the M50 mk ii autofocus is brilliant.
The R10 is nice and is almost perfect were it not that it's not weatherproof. But it's still noticeably bigger than the M50 and that is why for me, I'll be holding onto the M50. And the discussion about lenses is pointless to me. I have 12 lenses (8 EF-M and 4 EF Canon lenses) and am covered between my primes and zooms.
About the camera defaulting back to 1080p after turning off slow-motion: The R6 also does that. It is extremely annoying when it you switch back, shoot a clip and realize it's only 1080p instead of 4K, especially so if it's something you cannot repeat.
When compared to fuji, the lens line up is a huge advantage of the latter. Yes, those can be expensive, but there are good 2nd hand deals around.
but for Canon, put EF on is always usable. E.g EF 40mm f2.8 plus the Viltrox EF-R3 is a solid option.
@@zegzbrutal EF lenses can be adapted to Fuji as well. Have one and it works just fine.
@@ReflexVE but not fast enough, the AF on R bodies revive a lot of EF lens that wasn't fast on focus due to camera limitations.
@@zegzbrutal On some R bodies, yes. But per the R7 review they don't perform too great on these crop sensor options for some reason.
@@ReflexVE Jordan with that EF 85/1.8 is a anomaly...other channels don't experience the same issues. And since Jordan didn't have other EF lens for testing. Tbh I disregard his comment on AF.
I am committed to the Canon M platform. But I see Canon making some of the same mistakes already with their APS-C R platform. A smaller rangefinder style camera is coming, but that seems to be years away. Same for super premium native glass. It's too late now, but I regret not choosing FujiFilm X. The XT-4 is way more than I ever need, but man, what a camera and system. To those who haven't committed to a mirrorless platform yet, I strongly recommend they hold a Fujifilm camera first.
Is Fuji making good camera with bad focus system? I see some reviews complaint on it. That stop me from buying Fuji much more expensive product compare to other brand...
I too am all in on the M50 mk ii. I've bought all but the 18-150 EF-M lenses, the Sigma lenses and some quality EF lenses with adapter. For me, it's more than enough camera. I shoot sports, motorsports, car shows and family shots and for that it's golden.
From all reviews, Fuji autofocus seems to suck and for my style of photography that's terrible. In fact, in general I think having a solid autofocus is critical.
There really isn't a lens I feel I am missing to be honest. I shoot mainly primes but when I need a zoom I have that more than covered.
The M50 is alot of camera for the money and the EF-M/EF lenses (2nd hand) are much cheaper than Fuji lenses and better quality from what I've seen.
I see the appeal with Fujifilm with their larger lens selection but if you have an M50 and you're a hobbyist/enthusiast, it can take you a long way
The biggest problem with this video is that by incorrectly labeling this camera as an "entry-level camera" you offered advice to people looking for a first camera. Officially Canon has said that their main target audience for this camera are Canon users looking to upgrade from their DSLR cameras (that is why they are offering a free ef-rf adaptor). Unfortunately, you completely ignored this large segment of the buying audience. I have an M6II and an 80D with ef-s lenses. It would have been nice to see comparisons to see if it is worth switching over.
This ^^^ a lot of people in the comments don’t get that. “The R7 is better!!”. Well no shit, it’s $1500 for just the body alone, while the R10 is $1000 with the lens included. So of course the R7 is going to be better in many ways. For $1000, you’re getting almost everything in an R7, but with a crop sensor and some other differences. The R10 is def not entry level. I had the M50 Mark 2, and even that’s slightly higher than “entry level” at $500. I’m blessed to be able to afford an R10, but it’s def not even close to entry level. You can get a used T series for like $300 in my area. that’s truly entry level! $500+ is not. Especially, when you factor in a lens into the R10 price 🤣🤣 it shoots it up to an R7 setup. those RT lenses can go up to $2K easily!!
I’ve just bought a R10 18-45 kit, It’s the 5th camera I’ve owned over nearly 20 years. It’s replacing my broken 200Dii (rebel SL3/250D) for video use. I would have much preferred a Fuji Xh2s (minimal rolling shutter) or Sony FX30 (no overheating) but couldn’t justify spending 3 times as much. The R10 seemed the best compromise of features vs price for my needs.
Compared to the Nikon and Canon (I don’t know about Sony), Fuji has a larger collection of lenses to choose from. A discussion point when comparing with the Z50, but not mentioned with the XS-10. What is know considered to be entry level are all very capable cameras, and the gap to the mid level models is quite small. Maybe it is fair to conclude that the entry level is being phased out (competition from the phone cameras) and that dedicated photo and video capable cameras are pretty well specked.
Considering the third party and fullframe with e-mount lens, Sony has larger collection of lenses to choose from Fuji
Fujifilm does have 35 prime and zoom lenses alltogether, i wrote serveral days before here under another video, plus 2 teleconverters, not counting serveral 3rd party lenses from Sigma, Tamron & Viltrox. If you want the biggest, most complete APS-C lenses lineup into the business, Fujifilm is the way to go.
Thing is, that the new APS-C entry level seems to be starting into 2022 at ca. 799 EUR (Z-50, body only) or even 949 EUR (X-E4, without lens) and the EOS R10 is 979 EUR w/o lens, the X-S10 is currently 1049 EUR, and even the X100V got a price bump from ordinary 1399 EUR to now 1599 EUR, so a full 200 EUR more than ever before, and since release into 2020.
Into contrast, the EOS RP with the slightly inferior, slow kitlens could being had for just a week for 899 EUR with the 24-105 STM together as kit. The new X-H2s seems to be way fast, and a capable camera, for those who need the speed and it's video features. And for the MP lovers, the X-H2 comes out way soon with 40 MP via APS-C.
It's fair enough to say, that if one doesn't need all the speed, and latest features, you can still have lot of fun enjoying photography with much older generations, because it's good enough.
Into 2022 - there's enough for anyone, to pick up the matching camera. From a 10-20 buck Film SLR with matching nifty fifty, to the latest high end gear for serveral grand, it all depends, what you want to spent, what you need most. etc.
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Focus by wire lenses 🤢
if you think about it, nikon has the most lenses, especially z mount can use e mount aswell.
You have to admire the balls of Canon for hijacking their own products. Crap video AF and that LPE17?? Didn't they learn from the RP?? Holding out for R8 or R9 later in the year.
R10 +Rf100-500mm is a killer combo for bird photography ,reach 800mm in ff terms.Birds eye af is fantastic-even slightly better than in r6 which I had earlier. Compared to full frame bodies noise level on high ISO are very high but luckily we have Topaz denoise. I have also Sony a7lll +FE 200-600mm full frame combo ,but despite higher noise I use my Canon combo more. AF in this Canon aps-c body is so good.
Lol the lens cost 4K in my country
Next time you're shooting alone and have focus drift, just add in a Sasquatch or two in the back in post, it'll hide the problem. Hope this helps.
That used to work for me, but the Terminator made off with Sasquatch.
Not bad for a solo act. I only counted one time where the camera lost focus on your face. Otherwise you maintained the aesthetic of a typical DPReview video. 👍
That is a testament to how engaging Chris was with his content. It drifted at least 3 times, but in fairness, it recovered fairly quickly.
He mentioned he had to reshoot a lot of takes and ended up switching to manual focus, so you've only seen one example of AF drifting that he chose to leave in for demonstration purposes.
I have had my R10 and 18-150 since August 1st. Previously used a Canon Eos M50 and ef-m 18-150. Initially I was going to have an R7, but I really couldn't get on with the grip, far to uncomfortable for my liking. Anyway I have found the R10 to be a great upgrade over the M50. Better handling, better battery life, the evf is better (to my eyes at least). AF is very impressive, photographing trains with vehicle detect af and servo works a treat and I can rely on it, faster, more responsive from shot to shot than the M50. Image quality to my eyes is better than the M50 at higher iso. I also would say the Rf 18-150 is better optically than the ef-m version, I don't see anywhere near as much c/a in the rf lens. Plus the rf lens focuses closer, especially at the wide end when switched to mf. It is certainly an enjoyable camera to use. I have used it with a sigma 105f2.8 macro and a canon 70-300 is ii via the canon adapter. These lenses work great. The animal detect was very good indeed. The only thing I have tried on video is the option in 1080 to select the upto 10x zoom. I was quite pleased with this being on there, haven't seen it on a canon since the 70d I had. That will be great for catching distant wildlife moments. Currently only tried it on the moon. Which I was quite impressed with. So all in all I think it is great value for money camera. I have not been disappointed and In some respects my expectations have been exceeded. If anyone would like to take a look at the video of the moon and 10x zoom it's here ruclips.net/video/JfaibVCLrYQ/видео.html Also if you would like to see pictures from it, I have an album on my flickr for the R10 pics here flic.kr/s/aHBqjA2S3P . Hope it's ok to pop these links in the comments. just thought it might help with decisions.
hey i want to buy my 1st ever camera...should i get r10 or r7? im not very well versed in camera stuff...but i heard the r7 is safer since its weather protected and what not plus i have shaky hands so IBIS sounds good too..can u plz help... plus once i remove the lens will the senor be protected somehow in r10 or no?
@@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman Everything you said is correct and the fact you even mentioned those particular things suggests the R7 is the way to go for you. It's definitely a far better all-round camera and if you ever shoot anything important, it has dual card slots too (so you get a backup of what you're shooting, in case one card becomes corrupted).
@@cooloox dang it i guess i have been in denial about r7 cz of r10s lower price but i guess ill save up and get r7 then...thanks alot i needed to hear it from someone who knew their stuff
@@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman if you have shaky hands you need IBIS. The video already mentioned the alternative - X-S10. The cheapest option for getting IBIS I know of is a used X-H1, which goes for as little as $500-600 these days - it's a heavier pro-level camera but if that doesn't bother you it's a lot cheaper than the R7, albeit with last-generation autofocus. If you absolutely must have animal and planes, trains, automobiles autofocus, you're stuck with shelling out the extra money for an R7 or waiting until the next generation improvements come out for other systems like Sony or Fujifilm - the latest AF from the X-H2S will probably take another year or so to trickle down to the mid range.
@@problemat1que itll definitely eat up a full 2 month salary but i guess r7 is worth it... ill get it whenever it becomes available in my region ...cant wait to get started with it...
you guys were so very helpful...thank u so much💫✨️
For me, it’s fujifilm all the way. I have the xs10, and it’s my favorite camera. Plus, we have the fujifilm film simulations. No other company offers you that. And to go even further, there’s a community of people who have created film recipes that can give you amazing SOOC jpegs. The only thing I would say is good about the canon, is autofocus. And funny enough, as you was comparing the canon against the Fuji, canon decided to lose focus. 😂
Canon, Nikon or Sony for me. Nothing special about Fuji colours and who cares about film simulations? I shot film for over 20 years, I have zero interest in my DIGITAL camera emulating film. I prefer the more accurate images coming out of digital cameras. It's so easy to simulate film in post, if that's your thing, but shooting JPEG removes the ability to fully access the dynamic range of your sensor.
The main 3 brands have superior lenses too, especially for full frame. The Sigma 1.4 trio of lenses introduced to Fuji slightly beat out the existing closest Fuji lenses. Those 3 lenses don't come close to decent Canon/Nikon/Sony lenses. Even the Canon EF-M 32mm 1.4 is much better than the Sigma 30mm 1.4.
@@cooloox ok, I still prefer Fuji. And you can’t change my mind. Lol.
@@cooloox LMFTFY The main 3 brands have superior lenses ONLY for full frame. That's the point, you have to shell out the big bucks and carry pounds of unnecessary glass if you're an APS-C photographer with these brands. Most APS-C photographer are quite cost sensitive, so dollar for dollar, a native system like Fujifilm is a massive upgrade in performance over the second and third tier lenses of the FF brands and weighs less in the bag.
The EOS M50 Mark II is smaller, lighter, cheaper, and has arguably better, more affordable lenses. I wish you would have talked about where the R10 fits into Canon's overall lineup, but you've also never tested the M50 Mark II on this channel. The R10 has access to all of Canon's RF glass, but if you're buying a multi-thousand-dollar lens for an R10... you should have just bought an R6 or RP or something else, since that lens is going to be huge and heavy and its potential isn't fully realized due to the lack of a full frame sensor. Right now, Canon has ported two of their EF-M lenses to RF for the R10 and the R7 cameras, but one of the two actually has worse specs than the original EF-M lens had, and those were not the most stellar EF-M lenses in the first place.
Canon has said that the EF-M platform isn't dead yet, so their lineup is a bit confusing, but I think EF-M is better at being an APS-C camera, and the lens selection is perfectly reasonable on that platform these days. Whether Canon continues developing lots of new lenses or not is mostly irrelevant to the person who has their needs met now, and there are third party lenses on the mount these days.
The R10's main advantage over the M50 Mark II is in video capabilities, but this video demonstrates the focus wandering off even in a static shot with a clear subject, and Chris reported switching to manual focus... so if video on a budget is what you're after, Canon may not be the way to go.
I enjoy my Sony A7IV, but the M50 Mark II seems like a very well-rounded budget camera option for a lot of people. I don't understand where the R7 and the R10 are supposed to fit into Canon's lineup, and if Canon releases an M50 Mark III, it will likely be an even more obvious choice over them.
To answer your question. canon R7 and R10 sre to fit in their R mount systems. Of cause canon is killing the M but they are not going to announce it. And the M50 mrkii DON"T do 4k 60p, 15 FPS, The Af is not on par to R system with animal Face detection. The M50 markii is just a repackage of mark 1 with upgraded software which canon can easily put it in the firmware. I don't see canon coming out with Anymore M mount. I hope I'm wrong.
Great points. I am sticking with my M50 mkII.
The R10 and R7 obviously have bad firmware when it comes to video AF - Canon cameras have performed much, much better than this for over 5 years now. I hope it’ll get fixed soon. As to the RF-S lenses, extra ones are sure to come relatively soon, and then Canon have very solid offerings on RF at the lower end of the spectrum. The 24mm and 35mm f/1.8 are cheaper than those of any first party manufacturer, and well suited for APS bodies as well. The 100-400mm is a killer lens for the price, the 16mm f/2.8 performs quite well in crop mode, and the 600mm and 800mm give you extreme reach for comparative peanuts.
If Canon is clever then they port some of the EF-M lenses to RF-S. Once done the can develop further RF-S lenses and make them available with RF-S or EF-M mount.
@@Ildskalli 35mm f/1.8 is equivalent to 56mm f/2.9 when placed on the R10, and it costs $20 more than the 32mm f/1.4 lens that Canon offers for EF-M, which is equivalent to a 50mm f/2.2, so the EF-M lens is spec’d better, and reviews of its optical quality in practice are phenomenal. The RF lens also weighs 30% more for the privilege of being more expensive and worse on an APS-C body.
I agree the R10 and R7 have *some* advantages… but not many, and they’re very confusing cameras to exist at all.
Much as the R10 seems to be a great camera, it’s still too large for what I want, and the EOS R lens line is still missing an inexpensive, fast, wide angle prime. When Canon makes an EOS R50 to replace the EOS M50 and an RF 22 mm f/2.0 STM to replace the EF 22 mm f/2.0 STM, for less than $900 USD for the pair, they are going to sell a lot of them.
It seems like Canon is forever dangling future lens releases in front of their APS-C customers. In the meantime, I'm simply adapting an EF-S 10-18 F5.6 to my Fuji bodies for ultrawide because it's a lot cheaper than the native 10-24 F4. Of course that's a bigger package and I have to juggle the adapter.
X-S10 used or X-T3 used could be a nice choice, granted that AF performance is better on Canon
I just bought the R10! What a great camera and a great upgrade from the M50! Thanks for the video!
Everybody comments that the lack of apsc lenses for both canon and nikon is not really a problem because one can adapt older or more modern full frame lenses. Why buy a small camera system and then stick large, heavy and sometimes very expensive glass on the front with an adapter? Does not make sense to me.
Not to mention it change the focal length of those lenses. Your 40mm lens becomes closer to a 60mm lens, your 85mm lens becomes closer to a 130mm lens. Full frame lenses can also be softer on smaller bodies, because you're literally creating about the same sized picture from a smaller area of the lens. On top of all that, with these smaller lighter bodies, you end up with a front heavy camera if you use typical or larger adapted lenses, especially since that weight is extended from the body by an adapter. There's also a plethora of other issues, like distortion correction. While full frame lenses can be used on APSC bodies, they're not optically designed to be their best on APSC bodies. Most lenses are optically designed for 30MP or less. But when you shrink down the area you're taking an image from, it's like shooting 100MP full frame on a cheap lens....you're going to have tons of softness when you zoom in. And then when you need to crop, that softness is going to be exhibited even more. When you try to sharpen an already soft photo, you get all kinds of nastiness because it can't adequately isolate sharp details from blurry details, so even with a masking slider, you're still going to end up sharping tons of out of focus details that you don't want to.
You should leave those focus-drifting shots in the next camera review video guys. Gives a good example as to what real consumers can expect. Obviously if you reshoot a video until you have perfect AF, the AF will look great.
Underrated comment, and this misinterpretation of the video (what is said but shown only once) is very visible in other comments above.
Amazing review as always Chris! Couldn't quite catch your French at 5:29 but glad it can shoot at 4k 60p!🤣
I am either on the R50 or R10. I know you said R7 but the price for it is definitely next level. Now I am in a canon camera review video binge watch session cause I really wanna get one
Go with the Canon R8 Or the R50
Why not R10@@kenduejones
Great summery, use the r7 and bought it particularly for video but also as hybrid camera.
As it’s for RUclips I shot myself and had so far no issues with autofocus in video.
It’s for me the best insta/ RUclips creator cam but that’s me. Cheers guys 👍🏻
Thank you for the detailed review. Have you informed Canon of the AF woes in video? It’s absolutely unacceptable, and clearly a defect, because none of their other RF cameras do that. I hope you do, as they’ll probably hear established reviewers like you and Jordan more keenly than random users.
Nice review. Seems the R10 has been overshadowed by the R7, I don't really see a lot of people talking about it.
Finally ... Finally Chris brought the light with Fuji .. tony and jerad strangely avoided comparing with fuji and still Chris, I dont know either intentionally or mistakenly ignored that Fuji has the B S I sensor.
That video actually looks very very nice.
Except for the focus drift and his having to re-shoot some of the portions
@curriedagain very much sounds like a canon thing.
I'd love to see you compare it to the 90D. Again, it's an older camera, but also more megapixels, headphone jack, longer battery life, more lens options. Is it worth changing to mirrorless?
You'd change from a 90D to an R7, not to an R10. The R7 kills the 90D in most ways and definitely in terms of sharpness and lower ISO noise. The AF is light years ahead, too, of that antiquated DSLR focusing. I have a 7D Mk II, which focuses way better than a 90D, yet nowhere near as good as my RP or M6 Mk II. The R7 AF is much better than those 2 cameras.
i appreciate the comparison with the sony, nikon and fuji.
This is a great channel.
Entertaining and they keep it relevant.
if we forget the existence of available cameras like the z5, d750, d7200, RP, 5-3 80d, 7R-2, 7-2, 77-2, a6100, xt30 and xt200, em10-4.
Then yes the new purchase and the extra cost of the latest lenses makes sense.
But yes lovely coloures there and the R10 does look cool as long as you don't take the lens off
I wouldn't even consider a DSLR. I bought a mint condition 7D Mk II for nostalgia and fun (and it certainly is fun to use) but it doesn't come close to even an entry-level M50 in terms of AF tracking. The RP and M6 Mk II kill it, and the 7D Mk II has vastly superior AF to the 80D, 90D, D7200 etc. DSLRs are a total waste of time for anyone starting out today.
the comparison witht eh X-S10 makes sense, however, I think you should not underestimate the X-T3. It's still being produced and sold brand new for about teh same price as both the X-S10 and R10, so it a very valid option. It's also very similar to the R10 : both can shoot 4K60, have similar resolutions, neither have IBIS or great battery life, however the X-T3 has weather sealing, double SD slots so that might be a better option for someone that wants to go pro.
XT-3 autofocus isn't pro enough though
That model was recently discontinued, the X-T3s being sold today are leftover stock.
The feel of this video is INSANELY different, without Jordan framing each shot.
I think that for those torn between the X-S10 and the EOS R10 and looking to shoot video it should be noted that while the X-S10 does have more frame rate options (up to 240fps), it doesn’t offer 4k above 30fps, while the EOS R10 does (4k up to 60fps and full HD up to 120fps which isn’t bad either). X-S10 also has a maximum recording time of about 30 minutes while the EOS R10 stops at 2 hours, so that’s definitely something to consider
Cant wait for XH2S full review
This video looks exceptional for a sub 1k camera! The Canon color science definitely comes through.
And the grading.
EOS R10 just makes me want a EOS RP Mk2 with full frame 4K and at least clog, or better, clog3.
They would cripple it because it would make the r10 redundant. An R replacement would be better.
@@kingsamvisuals True. Well in that case, Canon needs to release more robust RF-S lenses.
Yes!! I‘d instantly buy that
The AF for stills with that 1.6 crop factor for wildlife is the deciding factor for me. A spare battery is a standard part of every camera purchase I've ever made, so that's a given. Entry level would be an R100, this seems more in line with a mid level APS-C product like the 90D, while the R7 would be in line with the 7D Mk 2
5:28 lol 🤣 I understood but it made me laugh more than it should, awesome video Chris !
That made me chuckle too, lol but I did not understand what he said 😆
How would you say it does for indoor concert video/photography work?
I believe the r10 is also cheaper than the competitors. For the price what you are getting is amazing with the r10.
Gonna be upgrading from a canon t7 soon and I’ve boiled my choice to either a Canon R10 or the Canon Eos Rp. Which would you recommend?
Sir which is better to buy Sony 6400 or Canon Eos R10??? Please let me know 🙏
Chris, I'm concerned that some folks say that the articulating screen is fuzzy and insufficiently lit - which would be a problem if I were to shoot macro with manual focus - please advise of your experience with the articulating screen, thank you!
Thanks for another great video!
Being able to shut a minimum shutter speed with auto ISO is a huge plus, so thank you for mentioning it!
I find the R10 and 18-45 kit good for video use. The 4K60 hasn’t shown a temperature indicator even after 15 minutes + outdoors at 20-21 degrees C and the rolling shutter was a big improvement over my previous 200Dii ( 250D/rebel SL3). I liked the focus guide when manual focusing- easy to find infinity focus, and I confirmed it’s accuracy by zooming in 10x. I needed to leave this on as the screen resolution drops to save battery shortly after starting recording ( I believe this can be adjusted/turned off) but it looks out of focus on the low res screen - thankfully the video wasn’t. The whole camera and lens has a very light (plastic) feel to it so be careful handling it.
I used cannon camara and used to their set up.I am not a professional so the R-10 is enough for me,compact and light for travel
What kind of mic are you using and what microphones would you recommend for this camera, for someone just getting into making videos etc
Another great review.
Should the R10 be a good choice to upgrade from my Canon 600D and still be able to use the glass I have?
Canon R8
I think that a compairison to the canon RP would have been nice as well. With little lenses available, i dont see much advantage in going for a R10.
You can use RF glass with the r10. Yes it’s expensive, but it’s worth it.
@@zacjohnson452 RF 16/35/85/100-400/600/800+kit 18-150 is a complete focal length for newbies trying photography
I thought the same thing while watching. The autofocus improvements are a tremendous advantage over the RP, but I’d like to see comparisons of ISO performance, dynamic range, color depth in real-world settings.
how image quality , low light performance and dynamic range compared to Fuji X-S10?
excellent video and explanation, but I would still like to know for the first camera for a total amateur to shoot some portraits and landscape which would be the best choice, the r10 or the x-s10? Thanks
Really tempted by this for wildlife photography, but Canon isn't really inspiring these days (They blocked 3. party lenses for the RF mount).
Thanks for the review Chris
You've got the best glass on the old EF platform. I'd go for it. 400mm, 500mm, 600mm f4 primes from the EF line are cheeeeap these days. Right now, you can get a 500mm F4 USM II for 1500$ compared to its original price tag of 9000$ seems like a no Brainer. Heck, most pro wildlife photographers are still using ancient manual lenses. Just worked with a guy that did a nature show for Netflix that used a 20 year old Nikkor 500mm F4 all manual.
....I went fishing with it. Oh?, what kind of fish did you catch? Mirrorless Trout! So much tastier than speckled trout!😀
Thanks for the very informative video! I am looking to upgrade my Nikon b700 camera. I dont have much experience in the system camera world yet, but I am interested in making the step to system cameras. With my old Nikon b700 I loved to take pictures of wildlife and to travel. Now I am looking for a good successor to this camera but with better and faster autofocus and better performance in low light. I found the Canon R10 and the Fujifilm x-s10. Personally, I find the choice between these two quite difficult. On the one hand, the autofocus of the Canon R10 is very good and fast, but the Fujifilm has IBIS and a wider range of apsc lenses. On the other hand I wonder if Fujifilm is suitable as a wildlife camera. What do you recommend?
Is autofocus better on r7 then r10?
I'm now waiting for the R10 Mk II which should be out by the summer I hope. I;'m looking at upgrading from my Sl1 since its a bit long in the tooth!
The focus drift on the R10, can it be corrected using some firmware update from Canon in the future?
Great job at producing this video solo! Seems like a decent camera for RF mount.
I came from vacation with a DSLR. Not surprising that I did not used it much but the image quality and boken still desirable. I'd like a smartphone with larger sensors just to get rid of too much sharpening/contrast/fake sharpness
Please compare Canon EOS R10 with Fujifilm X-S10.
He did...
@@nkai1273 But, not enough details
it's been a year after I bought the R10. coming from an RP, I might say that the R10 has a better overall performance besides the sensor size.
Hi. I saw your review on the Nikon Z50 so i am curious to ask would you rather get: R10 vs. Z50 for regular all around use. Mostly pictures. Thanks.
Technical and important question : The lens canon rf 100-400 has the same weight of the r10 using those lenses regularly with the strap at the neck could bend one or both the devices?
Thank you! I'm getting ready to purchase this and am a little nervous as this is the top of my budget. I'm very novice but would love to make this a hobby/side hustle. :)
What do you think about speed-boosters for canon r10. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography. Reviews please? 🙏
Hello Master:
Please help and give me some advice,
The camera I am currently using is Canon EOS R10,
The kit lens used with it is (RF-S18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM)
My main subject matter is toy photography.
The secondary shooting content is street photography or portrait photos.
Now I want to buy new lenses, after watching your video,
Want to compare between Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM and RF85mm F2 Macro IS STM
After making a choice, I would like to ask you to give me some advice on which lens is more suitable for me? Thank you.🙏
How is it with the noise? When using EF lenses, is the grip still comfortable? Canon should work on the noise. If mobile phones had a larger sensor, thanks to the software, mirrorless manufacturers might have a problem.
When is XH2S coming??
what about r10 vs nikon z6 for $500 more? for motorsports photography/videography and shooting real estate
I'm thinking that you are probably right and maybe it's better to go with the R7. Great review.
Was just about to pull the trigger on this one as need something compact for travel. But there are no affordable lenses for non-professionals, and the fuji x-s20 just dropped yesterday. I have few fuji primes so will go for the x-s20 instead.
Wonderful review! Canon really needs to get it together. They've been in the camera game way to long to be having these issues.😒
Great video. I think you could have explained better the lack of lenses. When I was first getting into photography the reviews I watched confused me since I heard I could use full frame lenses with my apsc body not realizing those lenses are 2-3x the cost that they need to be.
You can buy second hand glass, most people are treating their expensive lenses careful so a used lens is a good option if you want cheaper lenses for your camera. I am talking about the EF lenses you can use with the adapter :)
As a canon guy who uses full frame and crop, I can tell you that the lens situation is an absolute disaster - if you're not buying L lenses anyway. RF lenses that are not L have a mixture of being uninteresting, slow, optically not that great, or just flat out boring.
Choices are very very limited, and the mounts are closed so your only choice besides Canon's meager offerings is EF adapter and older third-party glass.
I just bought one of the sigma trio for efm. The 31.4. it has chromatic aberration problems for sure, but seeing drop dead sharp images at 1.4 is really mind boggling even if it's on crop.
But buying RF full frame if you don't have a stash of EF lenses to adapt, or you're begging for some serious financial pain. It is utterly insane.
We've definitely addressed this in our specific brand review videos where we mention what we think they do well, and what they need to change. Please have a look when you get a chance.
@@Monique.1709 RF is a brand new system so there aren't any good deals on used glass out there for the next five to ten years.
@@problemat1que You can use EF lenses with the adapter and you can buy the good L lenses used :)
Looking to buy a camera for the first time. Recently went to Arizona and every day was a new hike with beautiful scenery. Made me jealous I didn’t have a camera. I’ve been looking for a good beginner camera because I have never done real photography other than my phone. Most review websites seem to tell me this is a solid camera if I don’t have a budget. If anyone sees this comment please respond to me, will this camera be good for me ?
this review makes this camera looks promising. i hope canon puts out more lenses for this camera
Probably should mention APSC lens availability for the different platforms.
He did but only in passing, when it should be the #1 thing to look at when deciding between systems.
I don't understand why Canon releases so many APS-C cameras instead of eos rp. Mark II
I liked the little bit comparison with other cameras.
You should do this in all videos.
Should I buy ZVE10 or R10?
Same, waiting for more comparisons but it's sounding like zv-e10 is a better deal just lacking 4K 60. The next canon rumoured to be zv-e10 competitor might be a better comparison but I bet crippled. Lol. When Sony start using Bionz XR in apsc then I think Canon will fare badly.
R10 is way better camera than ZV-E10. Not even close, BUT... lenses.
Sony 11mm, 15mm, Sigma 18-50, Sigma 16/30/56.... Nothing like this available for RF mount. Thats why you need to see lenses first before choosing camera.
If I would like to get bigger glass like Sigma 18-35 EF then I would choose R10.
If I would want small setup with Sony 11mm + Sigma 18-50 + Sigma 56mm... then ofc Sony.
Similiar lenses for R10 will weight 2x more as there are no RF APS-C lenses, neither Canon or Sigma.
I would love to have good camera and small lenses so thats why Im waiting for new Sony APS-C body and if that doesnt happen in this year than I'll go Fujifilm which will get Sigma 18-50 by end of the year
Sigma 18-50 f2.8 is a gem. So small, light like kit, pretty bokeh and constant aperture. I want to switch from my Panasonic Lumix G9 just because of this lens
@@AXYZE I heard canon will launch some lens this year for APSC RF.Is it true?
@@AXYZE in what way? Canon do not have a catalyst browse equivalent and sounds like Sony focussing is superior than R10.
@@movielover2172 Of course they will but we dont know how they will look, perform, what price...
I wouldnt buy camera because "it will be better in future". If its gonna be better in future then I'll buy it in future for lower price (rebates or used). :)
If I would need to buy something now I wouldnt choose Sony APS-C because bodies are completly outdated and I wouldnt choose Canon APS-C, because theres not enough lenses. I would go with Fujifilm.
But, if we wait some time until Sony releases ZV-E20 or whatever they will call it and Canon will have new lenses then its different story. Then Fujifilm will be kinda behind (slower autofocus etc.), but for now they are the best at around $1000 price range.
Hi, i need a tip for choosing my new camera either the r10 or 90d i mainly photograph wildlife.
Hi bro,
Iam planning to buy an Canon R 10. I was buying for my personal usage, need to take cinematic portraits photo for my baby and travel usage so completely for my personal usage.
I saw the Canon R10 with kit lens 18-150mm combo box. So please suggest this combo is suitable for me or i want to buy canon RF 50mm lens for cinematic portraits as you shown in this video.
Iam confusing for choosing the lens, please suggest me the best lens for my usage brother?
Excellent review. Thanks!
Is this a Worthy Upgrade for me if I am using an Older M6 Mark II ?
Will it be a big change if i replace the canon d1300d with the canon r10, i will add that i am intermediate and want to photograph birds, animals and sometimes landscapes and some portraits
3:07 Does the camera battery last longer when you use the lcd on the back instead off the evf? I always thought the evf was more battery friendly....
Dear, can you please suggest me best beginner mirrorless camera to buy ( my budget is $ 1000 - $ 1300 range).
Thanks
From which model are the cameras weather sealed?
And why is a 900€ camera not have this "feature"?
Do I hold onto my eos 2000d and then get an R8 later down the line, or do I sell it and get an R10 now-ish? 🤔
Will this do well with astrophotography? Im new to this and bought it hoping to take some beautiful stacked images of the night sky.
Is it just me? It seems like Canon's face detect AF in video mode has taken a few steps back over the years. I used to shoot video with a 70D, then an 80D, then a 90D, then switched to an R, then an RP, then shot with an R5 for a while, and currently with an R6, and my memory may be failing me, but back in the 70-90D days, the face detect was rock solid, and now, depending on the model of camera you get, not so much. This is a basic core competency in my book. If you have a face in focus, don't change what you're focusing on unless the user touches the screen to focus on something else. It's almost like Canon has been really stepping up the video quality specs, but at the cost of less performant AF, whereas back in the day, their video quality wasn't as good as other hybrid cameras, but the dual pixel AF was class leading, at least for face detect in video mode.
Canon has disappointed me with its APS-C lens line up. That’s the reason I switched to Fuji after almost 30 years shooting Canon EOS.
The entire system is under 3 months old and you complain about the number of lenses.
Oh, that classic white sky look from Canon. 14 years passed since 5Dm2 with new video capabilities and it is still white)
Aww boohoo for you LOL.
is it a 4k camera? did you make the video using the camera?
Recieved my R10 yesterday, the aperture won't budge from "F00", settings are not "locked", camera is in manual mode, natters not whether a lens is attached. HELP!!!!!!! Please!!
Thank you!
What to buy ? a fuji xT30II or a R 10?
please update the video stills tool for r7 and r10 over the website dpreview
Still NO full review on DPReview.... Is there a reason???
Nice, that R10 have autofocus on 120fps?
What about this vs Canon eos RP?
I think fujifilm x-s10 is still best budget hybrid midrange camera.