I have a home network with Fibre and when I used a TP-Link Gigabit switch it seems to have a delay or hesitation. I decided to purchased a Tenda GB switch and now all is super fast. To me it seems the packet switching etc. is standard, but the managment of this all is different between companies or switches. I now do not ever use TP-Link again. This is just my experience.
Huh that's really interesting, sorry to hear about the delays but it's good that Tenda have fixed things for you. I used a TP-Link switch recently and while it seems to work okay, I wasn't a massive fan of it either (especially because the port LEDs were tiny, so you couldn't easily see if the devices were on or off 🙈)
The issue with certain brands isn't that they won't work with other brands - it's that they are cheap junk with much higher failure rates. And sometimes there are huge differences WITHIN a brand - the "blue metal box" gear from NetGear is a TON better than their "cheap silver plastic home networking" line, as a prime example. It's not the metal case - older 3Com switched also used plastic cases and lasted a very long time. It's the lower quality stuff INSIDE that matters. I won't touch TPLink or DLink or the silver "home" line Netgear stuff, too many failures at too young an age.
Hmm that's all good to know, thanks 🙂 I actually do mainly have the cheap silver Netgear boxes and they've been reliable, but I totally get that my home uses is nothing compared to professional, office or server type uses. I've heard great things about the blue box line from Netgear too - if/when I upgrade to 10 Gigabit networking in my house, I'll definitely look to move beyond the cheaper, consumer-grade switches I currently have.
@@TechOverwrite The blue-box Netgear products have been my "go-to" choice for my own gear since 3Com died. I still have some working ones from 100MbPS days - have only had one die on me and that was after over 20 years of use.
Some TP-Link switches and access points didn't handle VLANs and multicasts properly. The multicasts would leak from the main LAN to the VLAN. This made it impossible for me to run IPv6 on my guest WiFi VLAN. This may have been fixed in later versions, but there was no update for my access point or 5 port managed switch. I replaced the AP with a Unifi AC-Lite which works properly and the switch is being used where 802.1Q VLANs are not used.
Huh that's really interesting, thanks for the detailed info 🙂 That's a pain about TP-Link but definitely good to learn. Unifi have some great products, glad their AP is working out better.
Good to know! Wasn't sure if i should roll the dice on no name now that im going 2.5gb. Also, i saw a review on amazon about a no name switch having malware , I take it that's BS?
Ooo good question. Uhm I'm guessing it's BS - I struggle to think how a network switch (which pretty much tags then forwards packets) could inject malware which ultimately would be OS specific. Maybe for me, I'd avoid a random AliExpress switch but wouldn't worry too much beyond that 🙂
OMG! Seriously, Amazon is the worst when it comes to 3rd party companies. DO NOT TRUST THEM... They have 0 reputation in the industry and are selling total crap. There is a very informative video of amazon fuses being completely garbage (not popping at rated limit) on youtube. Do you seriously want to trust them? As far as malware, it can be injected into ANY point of access onto a PC or other device. TCP/IP sniffers, backdoor access, you do not know what is on the chip in the switch. SOC is very real and can be very dangerous.
I've used TP link products before, they're in my opinion and experience, low grade. I've always had good experience with Netgear products. I upgraded to a 5 port 2.5GbE Netgear switch for my NAS. Solid product with great performance.
That's interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. It does sound like TP-Link aren't as good as I thought they might be. My only real experience of them are with power like adapter (and they were buggy, but I assumed that was due to the electric cables/circuits) and a switch (and I wasn't a massive fan of some design elements). Netgear have always proved solid for me too. 🙂
I have a TP-Link TL-SG105S and I can agree that those LEDs are tiny I also have a D-Link DES-108 and the LEDs are perfect (by that I mean they're brithter and bigger)
Ah interesting, thanks for sharing. It does seem to be a TP-Link thing (maybe in their consumer class switches). Which is odd because their Mercusys brand does have larger LEDs. A weird decision from TP-Link 🤔
I look for the correct switch for the use case. No point having a 2.5gb switch if the switching fabric speed is only 1Gb as you'd never get faster than 1Gb. and if you had 10 machines on that 1gb and they all wanted as much speed as possible on a l2 switch that would mean 100mbps each?! At home I have a 48 port 1Gb POE+ HP enterprise switch and that does everything I need. :)
"and if you had 10 machines on that 1gb and they all wanted as much speed as possible on a l2 switch that would mean 100mbps each?!" Only if they were all trying for maximum throughput at the same time. In more typical applications, the various devices send intermittently, leaving their share of the bandwidth to others.
@@James_Knott yeah but the physical link speed in the example is 2.5gb so they would never even attain link speed even considering diversity. That's the point. Horse for courses.
What were you talking about? You made 0 sense. The brand DOES matter. There is more to a device than a standard. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Stop posting nonsense and do your research. Like a CISCO switch is the same as a TP-Link. OH REALLY? and all cars are the same, right?
I appreciate the feedback, although I meant in terms of unmanaged switches and more budget makes. I was assuming that network engineers who buy Cisco (for example) wouldn't be watching this video 🙂 Maybe I should have made it clearer though. Among
I have a home network with Fibre and when I used a TP-Link Gigabit switch it seems to have a delay or hesitation. I decided to purchased a Tenda GB switch and now all is super fast. To me it seems the packet switching etc. is standard, but the managment of this all is different between companies or switches. I now do not ever use TP-Link again. This is just my experience.
Huh that's really interesting, sorry to hear about the delays but it's good that Tenda have fixed things for you. I used a TP-Link switch recently and while it seems to work okay, I wasn't a massive fan of it either (especially because the port LEDs were tiny, so you couldn't easily see if the devices were on or off 🙈)
The issue with certain brands isn't that they won't work with other brands - it's that they are cheap junk with much higher failure rates.
And sometimes there are huge differences WITHIN a brand - the "blue metal box" gear from NetGear is a TON better than their "cheap silver plastic home networking" line, as a prime example.
It's not the metal case - older 3Com switched also used plastic cases and lasted a very long time.
It's the lower quality stuff INSIDE that matters.
I won't touch TPLink or DLink or the silver "home" line Netgear stuff, too many failures at too young an age.
Hmm that's all good to know, thanks 🙂 I actually do mainly have the cheap silver Netgear boxes and they've been reliable, but I totally get that my home uses is nothing compared to professional, office or server type uses. I've heard great things about the blue box line from Netgear too - if/when I upgrade to 10 Gigabit networking in my house, I'll definitely look to move beyond the cheaper, consumer-grade switches I currently have.
@@TechOverwrite The blue-box Netgear products have been my "go-to" choice for my own gear since 3Com died.
I still have some working ones from 100MbPS days - have only had one die on me and that was after over 20 years of use.
Some TP-Link switches and access points didn't handle VLANs and multicasts properly. The multicasts would leak from the main LAN to the VLAN. This made it impossible for me to run IPv6 on my guest WiFi VLAN. This may have been fixed in later versions, but there was no update for my access point or 5 port managed switch. I replaced the AP with a Unifi AC-Lite which works properly and the switch is being used where 802.1Q VLANs are not used.
Huh that's really interesting, thanks for the detailed info 🙂 That's a pain about TP-Link but definitely good to learn. Unifi have some great products, glad their AP is working out better.
Good to know! Wasn't sure if i should roll the dice on no name now that im going 2.5gb. Also, i saw a review on amazon about a no name switch having malware , I take it that's BS?
Ooo good question. Uhm I'm guessing it's BS - I struggle to think how a network switch (which pretty much tags then forwards packets) could inject malware which ultimately would be OS specific. Maybe for me, I'd avoid a random AliExpress switch but wouldn't worry too much beyond that 🙂
OMG! Seriously, Amazon is the worst when it comes to 3rd party companies. DO NOT TRUST THEM... They have 0 reputation in the industry and are selling total crap. There is a very informative video of amazon fuses being completely garbage (not popping at rated limit) on youtube. Do you seriously want to trust them? As far as malware, it can be injected into ANY point of access onto a PC or other device. TCP/IP sniffers, backdoor access, you do not know what is on the chip in the switch. SOC is very real and can be very dangerous.
I've used TP link products before, they're in my opinion and experience, low grade. I've always had good experience with Netgear products. I upgraded to a 5 port 2.5GbE Netgear switch for my NAS. Solid product with great performance.
That's interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. It does sound like TP-Link aren't as good as I thought they might be. My only real experience of them are with power like adapter (and they were buggy, but I assumed that was due to the electric cables/circuits) and a switch (and I wasn't a massive fan of some design elements). Netgear have always proved solid for me too. 🙂
@@TechOverwrite I've used their wireless router and powerline network. Disconnects galore. Never again.
Whoops, typo in my original reply (powerline not power like!!), but agreed, I had various disconnects with those.
I have a TP-Link TL-SG105S and I can agree that those LEDs are tiny
I also have a D-Link DES-108 and the LEDs are perfect (by that I mean they're brithter and bigger)
Ah interesting, thanks for sharing. It does seem to be a TP-Link thing (maybe in their consumer class switches). Which is odd because their Mercusys brand does have larger LEDs. A weird decision from TP-Link 🤔
Thanks for the info!
You bet, glad you liked it 🙂
I look for the correct switch for the use case.
No point having a 2.5gb switch if the switching fabric speed is only 1Gb as you'd never get faster than 1Gb. and if you had 10 machines on that 1gb and they all wanted as much speed as possible on a l2 switch that would mean 100mbps each?!
At home I have a 48 port 1Gb POE+ HP enterprise switch and that does everything I need. :)
Great comment and points, I definitely agree with all that 🙂
"and if you had 10 machines on that 1gb and they all wanted as much speed as possible on a l2 switch that would mean 100mbps each?!"
Only if they were all trying for maximum throughput at the same time. In more typical applications, the various devices send intermittently, leaving their share of the bandwidth to others.
@@James_Knott yeah but the physical link speed in the example is 2.5gb so they would never even attain link speed even considering diversity.
That's the point.
Horse for courses.
What were you talking about? You made 0 sense. The brand DOES matter. There is more to a device than a standard. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Stop posting nonsense and do your research. Like a CISCO switch is the same as a TP-Link. OH REALLY? and all cars are the same, right?
I appreciate the feedback, although I meant in terms of unmanaged switches and more budget makes. I was assuming that network engineers who buy Cisco (for example) wouldn't be watching this video 🙂 Maybe I should have made it clearer though. Among