Very here for this. So good to see an RTS pro like uThermal pick it up. Other coaching sessions spend so long teaching RTS that you only get a glimpse of what makes WC3 so different
@@doctorstainy I mean its going to be easier to coach someone who has never left the RTS genre and still plays on the regular, even if its a different game. He just has to learn WC3's specific mechanics and he'll be able to produce some really good games.
Masterclass RTS, masterclass on how to teach WC3. What an incredible pleasure it was to watch these two genuinely kind gamers absolutely style this enterprise.
Wow, truly amazing, I always knew Grubby is really good, but as a non-player it's hard to catch all the small and minute things a high level player does throughout a game And then we have uThermal, who can take in and understand the quick call outs from Grubby Really fun to watch this, the thumbnail is spot on lmao!
Because he's looking for it in a sense. In LoL professional scene there was this one Bulgarian player Hilysang, who would review his teammates' gameplay from their POV, so he could see them where they click, down to the point of asking them "why did you hesitate here?" just by the space amount of clicking back away from the opponent. No different really than a musician in the audience hearing a single instrument in orchestra missing couple of notes. That's what thousands of hours and being among the best in the field does to a mofo.
It's kinda like basketball where the ball is the center of attention. When teaching someone in RTS their mouse movement gets a lot of attention cause you can observe their thought process based on its movement
@@crumble1400 Yup, watching the mouse movement. Only thing better for expediating training would be to install eye tracker too, so you can see where the person looks too. Back when I coached people League I seriously considered investing in it, both for my sake and entertainment, and for training purposes of my close relatives. Sadly back then it was too expensive and even if I had it, it would do nothing for online clients, unless they had it too, so I never splurged on the idea. Would be fun though. Although I do think less serious people about improving would be utterly freaked out by the prospect of their coach knowing what they're looking at, at all times, eyes are windows to the soul and all that.
uThermal knows more from playing hots than from playing wc3, since he can recognize the heroes from their hots equivalent. Its also funny that he feels so naughty when hes not making workers haha
Banking resources in sc2 is bad practice unless you are literally max population and full upgrade but in WC3 it makes sense in certain situations and spending it effectively is more important then say “lets warp in some stalker since they off cooldown”
@@TofuofLight not neccesarily true, there are a bunch of sitatuations where you bank porpusefully in sc2, tho admittedly not with terran which is utheremals main. Zerg often banks while waiting for their tech structrures to finish, like banking a lot of gas before spire finishes to instantly make a lot of mutas, or waiting for a lurker den and so on. Protoss also doesn't just spend all their money on stalkers unlesss its a pvp. stalkers are very gas heavy and you need that gas for the tech units. Usually you make as few stalkers as you can get away with in pvt and pvz, like making 5 stalkers agaisnt terran so you can 2 shot a medivac, so you are safe vs drops, but you don't keep making stalkers unless you want to attack
more of this! please don't let this be a one off. this entire series of u teaching ppl wc3 is so fun to watch. i have never played wc3 in my life but am slowly learning the game just cuz your content.
Please more of this. Specifically you and uThermal. I never watch your channel and i dont play wc3, and i havent watched uThermal in a long time, but i'm here for this content
Amazing content. Also, amazing intro recap into Human. Ive learned so many details! Like tank with the telegiggle. I used to save it so it would do more damage.. So good. What a great collab
I love this coaching series with uthermal and harstem grubby, please teach more of them, spread your wisdom and skill, start a team with ex sc2 pros and send them in competitions like a bootcamp with skilled veterans, its so joyful too watch how their RTS experience combined with your god tier understanding of WC3 makes success storys and miracles happen!!!
when thermal was throwing stormbolts when surrounded by like 5-7 footies I was just thinking how much damage thunderclap would be doing in the same situation (and with the movement slow, and attack slow, it'd be more effective over one stun on a single footy)
First class entertainment Grubby! I play WC3 myself and i learnt a lot for my own game too. (I play Human and im a Noob too.) Suggestion for you: Invite 3 other Players from Fanbase or other Streamers and teach them how to play Orc, NE, UD. So everyone can get a decent Player in their race. (Maybe try to reach individual goals with them for their race). I think this has great entertainmentpotential and your viewers can learn how to play their races better. You can also do some kind of application rounds (playerpool is your fanbase) for one or two races and fanbase and you decide how is the most entertainment pick for teaching :D Keep up your great work and cheers.
24:24 XCDDDDDDDDDDDDDD HE THOUGHT CLAP IS AUTO..err.. passive.. XD ! mmm funny to laugh at new players sometimes its like humour in science somehow but in gaming. Respect though great video
It's so weird to see Mark struggling with micro 😅 I thought that would be his strength. Strange that he doesn't seem to be grasping focusing units and securing kills. Hope he plays more, and especially the SC2 vs WC3 mod!
Just had a couple Riot client plebs try to flex queue report on me and I smashed em all to dust. Being best player and smashing the losers into the ground is the best feeling ever
to me uThernaml and Harstem so much better company then Tyler and Dantes, ofc it's preference I'm older I like calmer ppl personalities awesome job man!
very cool match, its interesting how different warcraft and starcraft 2 are, in 2 you have to keep making units and workers for eco and military but in warcraft the focus is more on engagements which is really cool, and ttk in wc3 is nice and not super fast like in 2. id say wc3 and broodwar are far better games than starcraft 2
the fight from @11:00 on is just painfull to watch hes CONSTNATLY running away with everything, meaning through the whole fight hes basically doing half the damage he should be he would have won that game if he just A-moved the army and left it, his constant "micro" just hurt him especially from when the wyrm turns up, he boxes the whole army and runs back instead of just the 1 unit being attacked a dozen times
That's the sc2 micro difference. There's virtually no turn speed limit in sc2 and ranged units die very fast to melee if they stand still, so it's just a force of habit for him to keep kiting them backwards.
Hmm Grubby, he hasn’t tried what makes human truly unique and that is the fast expand. I think he would love the extra economics an extra base provide and can spend lavishly making units and throw money at every problem (also since he likes to build workers, it would be funny to build more peasants since they will inevitably die from harass lol)
@@FollowGrubby that is true! I honestly keep forgetting it is a brand new game for him with no prior experience since he micros so well and almost got most hot keys down haha
hello guys are there players playing wc3 reforged on asia am planning to buy warcraft 3 the standard one instead of buying the new game aom retold idk which one would be fun to play i only played campaign before of wc3 havent been on the multiplayer side wc3 looks fun to play whenever i watch grubby content
AM , MK is much more beginner friendly. You can creep much faster - have a tank to creep - a bolt to focus. with pala you need to make as well good use of clearity potions and with bloodmage 2nd you really need to have your micro on point. Pala rifle is nothing you want to start with.
Feels like driving exam
1:30
hahahhaha, accurate
push the break pedal, "dis one?" PUSH THE BREAK PEDAL ok we crashed
😂
So true
Very here for this. So good to see an RTS pro like uThermal pick it up. Other coaching sessions spend so long teaching RTS that you only get a glimpse of what makes WC3 so different
Yeah its refreshing to see someone understanding the basic game mechanics, compare this to the wow and lol guys he was playing with its another world.
@@doctorstainy I mean its going to be easier to coach someone who has never left the RTS genre and still plays on the regular, even if its a different game. He just has to learn WC3's specific mechanics and he'll be able to produce some really good games.
Even more different with Harstem lol
uThermal isnt bad but Harstem is 5x better already in learning WC3 he is a SC2 pro aswell.
Masterclass RTS, masterclass on how to teach WC3. What an incredible pleasure it was to watch these two genuinely kind gamers absolutely style this enterprise.
Sounds like an AI comment.
@@HighLanderPonyYT I can see that. But I'm just appreciative and respectful my man. Long time Grubby fan, and Harstem is a legend.
Wow, truly amazing, I always knew Grubby is really good, but as a non-player it's hard to catch all the small and minute things a high level player does throughout a game
And then we have uThermal, who can take in and understand the quick call outs from Grubby
Really fun to watch this, the thumbnail is spot on lmao!
This is so wholesome both of these legends complementing and analyzing each other while being bros. Puts a smile on my face :)
Totally
4:25 you shiefted that peasant to gold
My god, it was a split second thing how did he notice that
Because he's looking for it in a sense. In LoL professional scene there was this one Bulgarian player Hilysang, who would review his teammates' gameplay from their POV, so he could see them where they click, down to the point of asking them "why did you hesitate here?" just by the space amount of clicking back away from the opponent.
No different really than a musician in the audience hearing a single instrument in orchestra missing couple of notes. That's what thousands of hours and being among the best in the field does to a mofo.
It's kinda like basketball where the ball is the center of attention. When teaching someone in RTS their mouse movement gets a lot of attention cause you can observe their thought process based on its movement
@@crumble1400 Yup, watching the mouse movement. Only thing better for expediating training would be to install eye tracker too, so you can see where the person looks too. Back when I coached people League I seriously considered investing in it, both for my sake and entertainment, and for training purposes of my close relatives. Sadly back then it was too expensive and even if I had it, it would do nothing for online clients, unless they had it too, so I never splurged on the idea. Would be fun though. Although I do think less serious people about improving would be utterly freaked out by the prospect of their coach knowing what they're looking at, at all times, eyes are windows to the soul and all that.
I saw an instance of that as well, but I can't remember if it was the same time.
uThermal knows more from playing hots than from playing wc3, since he can recognize the heroes from their hots equivalent. Its also funny that he feels so naughty when hes not making workers haha
Banking resources in sc2 is bad practice unless you are literally max population and full upgrade but in WC3 it makes sense in certain situations and spending it effectively is more important then say “lets warp in some stalker since they off cooldown”
@@TofuofLight not neccesarily true, there are a bunch of sitatuations where you bank porpusefully in sc2, tho admittedly not with terran which is utheremals main. Zerg often banks while waiting for their tech structrures to finish, like banking a lot of gas before spire finishes to instantly make a lot of mutas, or waiting for a lurker den and so on. Protoss also doesn't just spend all their money on stalkers unlesss its a pvp. stalkers are very gas heavy and you need that gas for the tech units. Usually you make as few stalkers as you can get away with in pvt and pvz, like making 5 stalkers agaisnt terran so you can 2 shot a medivac, so you are safe vs drops, but you don't keep making stalkers unless you want to attack
@@norberthiz9318 ah I see, thank you for the insight.
uThermal's reaction when blizzard doesn't kill his entire army in 3 ticks LOL
Flamestrike maybe but your really need to afk in blizzard to kill you usually
Flamestrike maybe but you really need to afk in blizzard for it to kill
@@TofuofLight I was comparing it to psi storm which kills your army in 1.6 seconds haha
Watching him miss that TP home with like 8 seconds to spare hurts so bad.
it hit deep in the heart, on a physical and emotional level
To be fair he was on a TKL keyboard with default hotkeys
more of this! please don't let this be a one off. this entire series of u teaching ppl wc3 is so fun to watch. i have never played wc3 in my life but am slowly learning the game just cuz your content.
My two favorite RTS youtubers
Crazy how you can tell he's a pro at another RTS. He played amazingly well.
Already watched the full vod on twitch but FOR THE GAMER CROSSOVER ALGO!
Please more of this. Specifically you and uThermal. I never watch your channel and i dont play wc3, and i havent watched uThermal in a long time, but i'm here for this content
holy crap his micro is amazing already. Those box selects and moves out of blizzard and the regrouping was so fast :)
Amazing content.
Also, amazing intro recap into Human. Ive learned so many details! Like tank with the telegiggle. I used to save it so it would do more damage..
So good. What a great collab
more like this! Make him a pro in WC3 Grubby
I love this coaching series with uthermal and harstem grubby, please teach more of them, spread your wisdom and skill, start a team with ex sc2 pros and send them in competitions like a bootcamp with skilled veterans, its so joyful too watch how their RTS experience combined with your god tier understanding of WC3 makes success storys and miracles happen!!!
I love the content with other creators! These have been a lot of fun!
Awyeeaa. I love this arcs. I got ptsd on how many things you need to do 😂😂
Warcraft 3 is a busy game! So many things to get good at lol
i will probably never play as well as thermy in his 1st game :P
wait for his 2nd ranked ith grubby!
I've been loving these coaching episodes, as someone not already an expert on wc3 it fills in a lot of blanks, and is just nice on top.
I am so SO enjoying this series, I really hope you guys keep it up. Watching uThermal learn in real time is an actual treat.
I cracked up at the " Target the purple one " *Stormbolts the green one somehow confused*. It's green, 2x orange and a purple one bruh!
These kind of episodes are really fun. Hope uThermal keeps enjoying, playing and becomes really good at the game
really enjoy watching both you and uthermal. love the games keep em comming! could watch all night lol
I feel like Uthermal is gonna love pulling the boys with Militia.
29:30 !!! The MK
Already watched this on uThermal's channel, but I'm watching it here anyway. Pretty sure Grubby just straight up owns my soul at this point 😅
This is so amazing, really shows how much of a timeless classic Warcraft 3 is! 🔥
Love this crossover. Can't wait for more!
Is anyone else picking up that they both have the same cadence? Maybe RTS masters all speak the same haha.
Yessss. This is so good. uThermal was so good with human. I learned so much yet again.
This collab is SO good, I hope uThermal continues with WC3 and you guys do some more content together :-))
Grubby watch and learn what precise clicks mean! :P
Thank you both for the content!
I love their interaction
uThermal's well on his way to complete his quest to take down Ud happy with his Hu
dang collaboration of two of my favorite RTS streamers
Awesome series, waiting for more if there will be some)
Now this is the one I was waiting for, this is awesome!
Elite adept led by elite veteran.
That was fun.
Holy hell! WPWP Thermal! Beautiful. 2nd game W on WC3Champs is crazy
So much fun watching you coach!
when thermal was throwing stormbolts when surrounded by like 5-7 footies
I was just thinking how much damage thunderclap would be doing in the same situation (and with the movement slow, and attack slow, it'd be more effective over one stun on a single footy)
I'm curious what race will uThermal resonate with the most after he tries all 4.
Whichever lets him do the craziest builds ;p
this was really fun to watch!
I really enjoy watching grub in coaching mode. It would could to see more with uthermal or perhaps other players open to it (maybe harstem too lol)
Would be fun to see some wacky ladder hijinks from Marc like in his SC2 series once he gets more practice in
This series is pure gold man!
The improvement form game 1 to 2 was pretty immense! Give him a month and hes gonna be great, he would already beat me probably
great collab, more please
First class entertainment Grubby! I play WC3 myself and i learnt a lot for my own game too. (I play Human and im a Noob too.)
Suggestion for you:
Invite 3 other Players from Fanbase or other Streamers and teach them how to play Orc, NE, UD. So everyone can get a decent Player in their race. (Maybe try to reach individual goals with them for their race).
I think this has great entertainmentpotential and your viewers can learn how to play their races better.
You can also do some kind of application rounds (playerpool is your fanbase) for one or two races and fanbase and you decide how is the most entertainment pick for teaching :D
Keep up your great work and cheers.
24:24 XCDDDDDDDDDDDDDD HE THOUGHT CLAP IS AUTO..err.. passive.. XD ! mmm funny to laugh at new players sometimes its like humour in science somehow but in gaming. Respect though great video
That ending lmao. Bro kicked him back to Dota 2
Poor guy had no idea what he was up against.
This is extremely educational to watch.
I really like when you coach new players or comment Bronze League. Helps a lot thx !!
Grubby, great video you deserve more subscribers
Wholesome people always deserve more subs
Amazing progress, I'm most hyped about winning wc3 lately
"realistically it will take like 5 games to get on right level"
meanwhile me: on 10 game losing streak in wc3c
Maybe he can coach you in sc2 high level as well, would be cool
It's so weird to see Mark struggling with micro 😅 I thought that would be his strength. Strange that he doesn't seem to be grasping focusing units and securing kills. Hope he plays more, and especially the SC2 vs WC3 mod!
The thumbnail got me 😂😂😂
This is so pure
Just had a couple Riot client plebs try to flex queue report on me and I smashed em all to dust. Being best player and smashing the losers into the ground is the best feeling ever
For some reason I remembered that uThermal used to play WC3 before SC2 with Human. I might be mixing him with someone else.
I loved it❤. I wish Grubby is coaching me too. Grubby , you're 1love
Now we just need Grubby to start playing Dawn of War: Soulstorm
Uthermal more like uther mal
Arthas did nothing wrong
@@EverythingIsTaken94 Praise be unto him.
My man coaches Thermy, he gets a sub.
Get this man on ahk so he will stick with the game
to me uThernaml and Harstem so much better company then Tyler and Dantes, ofc it's preference I'm older I like calmer ppl personalities awesome job man!
Hahaha regenjas. It means raincoat and he meant acolytes by it.
also need uThermal back on the channel he plays well GG !!
This really makes me want to play some ranked even though I don't own the game 😍
Next imagine pink ward, uthermal, tyler 1 ,dantes, harsemm, oxhorn FFA in warcraft, also ninja
Super great games!
So weird to see a sc2 pro so lost at a game, but at the same time to see how he is learning at a speed of light rate
Why would that be weird? Different skillsets, someone being good at one RTS doesn't instantly make them a god at every RTS.
@@HighLanderPonyYT coz Uthermal is a beast in sc2, saying its weird does not mean I insult him
I didn't say you insulted him. It just doesn't surprise me bc of what I said, so I didn't think it was that surprising.
At some point you two need to have a sit down and decide what different colors look like
Loving this content. Can you convince Harstem to play wc3 again? Harstem vs uThermal show match with grubby commentary would be great.
He already coached harstem recently was a good stream
War3 Songs tier list WHEN???
Just played my first game with human. I got ahead early, almost had him, but they just rode over me lategame. I feel defeated
Nice try!
very cool match, its interesting how different warcraft and starcraft 2 are, in 2 you have to keep making units and workers for eco and military but in warcraft the focus is more on engagements which is really cool, and ttk in wc3 is nice and not super fast like in 2. id say wc3 and broodwar are far better games than starcraft 2
Loved this more Uthermeme
Definitely PURPLE.
His first ladder game and he's already better than me 😅
Purple, dark.. doesn't matter what Grubby said he should've definitely still not attacked the *green* one either way. smh.
the fight from @11:00 on is just painfull to watch
hes CONSTNATLY running away with everything, meaning through the whole fight hes basically doing half the damage he should be
he would have won that game if he just A-moved the army and left it, his constant "micro" just hurt him
especially from when the wyrm turns up, he boxes the whole army and runs back instead of just the 1 unit being attacked a dozen times
That's the sc2 micro difference. There's virtually no turn speed limit in sc2 and ranged units die very fast to melee if they stand still, so it's just a force of habit for him to keep kiting them backwards.
How does one get w3champions? This looks brutal, I want in
Hmm Grubby, he hasn’t tried what makes human truly unique and that is the fast expand. I think he would love the extra economics an extra base provide and can spend lavishly making units and throw money at every problem (also since he likes to build workers, it would be funny to build more peasants since they will inevitably die from harass lol)
He said (and I agree) it's too much for him right now since he's on his first 5-10 games _EVER_
@@FollowGrubby that is true! I honestly keep forgetting it is a brand new game for him with no prior experience since he micros so well and almost got most hot keys down haha
2nd guy thought he was bad when playing against a SC pro being coached by a WC pro.
so frustrating seeing him leave units at base because of his constant changing of the rally flag... just fucking leave it on your hero
MORE!
ayay spoiled 2 episodes cuz i watched the uthermal video which included most of these 2 last episodes rip me :D
why would you not give a new player a QWER grid?
the default key binds are just so stupid
he is a starcraft 2 champion i think grubby knows he can handle it
uThermal ain't exactly a new player. In the first video uThermal said he doesn't play grid in SC so grubby said just stick with this.
hello guys are there players playing wc3 reforged on asia am planning to buy warcraft 3 the standard one instead of buying the new game aom retold idk which one would be fun to play i only played campaign before of wc3 havent been on the multiplayer side wc3 looks fun to play whenever i watch grubby content
uThermal is already microing better than Sok.
Why not pala riffel
AM , MK is much more beginner friendly. You can creep much faster - have a tank to creep - a bolt to focus. with pala you need to make as well good use of clearity potions and with bloodmage 2nd you really need to have your micro on point. Pala rifle is nothing you want to start with.
uh, my anxiety hits too hard from these videos. Thermal acts like he doesnt understand english language, Grubby is using :D
hell ya
lol, is Therrmy being bad on purrpose? - XD