The first ever APS-C compact camera was a Sony?!!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- The first ever APS-C compact camera is now closing in on 20 years old. Is it still any good? Spoiler: Of course it is. And loads if fun as well.
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Great channel! Thanks!!
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoy it!
I bought this camera brand new in 2005 for $1000 when I had an itch to get into photography as a hobby. This camera is legendary and for good reason it has a cult following. With all the improvement in the iPhone camera and software manipulation, there is a magic and quality in the photos produced by this camera that modern day cell phones nearly 20 years later can’t capture.
My first camera was a 5D Classic handed down to me by my mentors who had shot over 400 weddings on it. I began my career with that camera and moved onto others in the series and eventually mirrorless. I picked one up again recently for $125 and it really is just such a nostalgic tank to use.
Love the 5D classic.
Same here. Adore that camera. Full frame for basically no cost at all, and a real great platform for vintage lens adapting.
Exactly the same for me. Can't put my recently reacquired 5D down anymore, the limitations are now plain fun. It even made me buy the EOS 5, to compliment it. But hey, my regular daily is an X-Pro1, so that counts, too :)
The 5D classic is still the nicest camera I own haha. It's crazy how cheap they are now. I bought mine in 2016 for $320. Don't have plans to stop using it anytime soon.
Got one here in Ukraine, been using it for years and made thousands of photos with it. Zoom lens alone costs North of $800 by today's standards and oh boy 24-120mm is a beautiful range! My only complaint is that it's sadly very slow to shoot with, makes you miss quite a substantial amount of moments. But for slow photography it's a small miracle!
I found one that's a bit busted up, for around 8 euro, at a flea market. I spent some of the weekend refurbishing it and it's coming along nicely. Added some thick leather instead of the deteriorated rubber grip - looks great! One thing that's really good about it, is the solid design. All the buttons are handy and there's really no need to be mucking around through menus. I'm having trouble with focusing, with the low res screens, but, I'm getting the hang of it.
Just got my mint R1 yesterday, a camera I always wanted but never did until now. 😁 Fully boxed with all docs and it's simply gorgeous..can't wait to use it.. 👍
Same here I also got one mint boxed with all the accessoires for 120 euros only downfall was he put the wrong charger in the box but it uses the same charger that my Sony dsc-f828 also use
Love my r1 and dscf828, used them both when I was travelling 10 yrs or so ago, and still use them today.
I own this camera for about 15 years now and get it out from time to time, because of it's unique design, the handling, perfect zoom range and imagequality. A joy to use!
I have my Sony DSC-R1 🤩🧐 I love this camera. So much fun !!! 🥳
My backup camera is a Sony a7r v that replaces the a7siii I had before.
This is such a classic. I sold mine but really enjoyed it while I had it. Glad to see you cover it!
Ive been meaning to since I think before my first "old camera" video. I just kept forgetting about it.
Recently picked up the original Canon 1D from 2001. Some of the most fun I’ve had in a long time. AF is absolutely fantastic, and the colours are perfect. 4mp means no cropping but that just makes it more challenging and fun 🙂
Using an old Olympus E-400 with kit lens - the colors of that sensor are SO great. Its all plastic and very light weight but man it fun.
I have E-400 with 25mm f2.8 pancake lens. Enjoy the colors just as you are using E-400.
@@user-yc8bv8gg4r Yeah I think my next buy is the pancake 🙂
So glad not to be dead inside, I find this R1 completely fascinating and just purchased one. Need to make some videos covering it myself soon coming from both the F717 and F828, this was the clear logical step up.
"unless you're dead inside"... 🤣 I love it... and now I want to try one of these too! My recent favorite old camera is an Olympus e-300 that I just recently got the little 25mm f2.8 pancake lens for. Such a cool design and form to it. I haven't shot with it enough yet, but I really love the images and colors I get from it. Thanks for the great video!
Oh soooo nice to see you back doing an old camera review. I bought two older cameras after watching your review and see your example photos.
I got my r1 from Ebay, pristine condition.
Completely agreed on the fun factor. Aside from the quality, it's super fun to use. Now my older joyful cameras ranks is: 1.The R1!!! 2. My Sanyo Xacti HD2000 3. My Nikon D40 with 50mmm 1.8 4. My Sanyo IdShot. Not dead inside!!!!! XD
I bought one of these in 2020, and it was immediately love.
It is very pleasant to use, especially on those days when you don't want to carry too much equipment with you.
I love old digitals, I really enjoy using them, I also like the fact that it's a challenge to use them.
Now I'm waiting for a 2001 Sony DSC-S85 and I'm really curious and eager to try it.
hard to go back to anything else once you're spoiled by the R1 it seems... it's just so damn nice!
Gear truly does not matter for you, Mr. Matthias. You get the same signature look from every camera/lens you shoot with on your channel.
I really love the format of your videos... Recently found myself watching a lot of your videos!
So I subscribed :)
Two older cameras (among the very many I own) which have quite positively surprised me are the Olympus E-1 (2003) and the Olympus C8080-WZ (2004). Both cameras deliver stunning straight-out-of-camera JPEGs, and are amazingly snappy considering their age. The C8080's autofocus, in particular, is much more responsive than in other cameras of the same vintage like the Nikon Coolpix 8800, to make an example of another camera I own.
Great video as usual, Mattias. And thanks for keeping it short and to the point in an era where every youtuber seems to make a mini-documentary for every imaginable topic… 🙂
Cheers! //Rick
I sold mine years ago. Missed it so much I searched ebay and bought 2 and glad I have and use them even today!
I'm touched to see this camera here and I'm flashed back 20 years. This was the time when I wanted to pick up photography as a serious hobby again and ... bought exactly this camera. I found the image quality to be very good, surprisingly good actually. The handling was great, it fit my hands perfectly and everything seemed to be in the right place. So I carried it around with me for many years to come, until finally the autofocus "speed" (actually, the lack of speed) made me change to another system. If Sony would still build bridge cameras like this, I'd buy one right away. And with "like this", I'm talking about the APS-C sensor size. I wouldn't want to go below that anymore. I even tried FT and wasn't happy with it. Thank you for making these good DSC-R1 memories pop up again :-)!
thinking about getting one. Thank you for this review!!!❤❤❤❤❤
This is how I feel about my G7XII. You get ND, digital stability, Picture profiles where you can make your own LUTs in the camera window software from Canon, plus the zoom is fun.
Messing around with colours and styles is actually more rich and dynamic an experience than ironically my Fujifilm.
Sounds like fun!
I have one for 16 years it's one of my favorites
Mine is still the Epson R-D1 - just so much fun to use, great image quality and generates lots of positive interactions when shooting portraits on the street!
Oh this brings up some of my oldest memories of me getting to fall in love photography, when I was a teenager I was dreaming about this camera, not long after I tried a digital camera for the first time in my life, which was my friend's point and shoot Sony camera. I was mesmerized by the "I can't believe that I can see the picture immediately" thing and my love for photography started with that little camera. :) Which after a lot of years that friend of mine actually gave me since it had to be repaired, not sure my dad managed to repair it, we might still have that broken somewhere in the some box. But now I decided to search for that exact same model and buy one, just to have fun and be nostalgic and see what can I do with it, and I found one for 12 euros. I cannot wait to buy it! It seems to have a 3 megapixel 1/1.8 CCD sensor, that sounds like fun for sure :)
Thanks Mattias for the inspiration! :)
STILL have mine - still use mine, its a special lens - excessively useful - and its fun to know you are creating digital excess (20mb files on a 10mp sensor - writing to a CF card at about 2.5 mb/s - but all kidding aside. Yep, have an rx1, rx100, xt2, xt4, xcetera - and yet this old girl still gets out about once a month - and even today, amazed at what comes off the CF card - some days I wonder - aside from speed - what really has improved... Thanx Mattias - love that you did this video.
Wow you sound rich 💵
I once had a Fuji finepix S5000. Tiny superzoom with a tiny sensor and 3MP. But it shot RAW and I loved the colours and images it created. It really only had ISO200 and 400, but most of the time, that was fine. The fact that is beautifully designed and wonderful to operate, was all that mattered.
This camera is awesome. Still missing mine. Great images and great lens!
The old camera that I have fun with the most is my Epson R-D1X!
I wanted one then I saw the price tag! The design is great 😁. I think they use the same sensor as the Nikon D100 (but it is not pocketable and doesn't offer the same user experience)
I have bought and sold this model more times than I can remember . Last year I got one like new and this time it's a keeper, don't need to bother with other stuff anymore...
I own this camera and still use it to shoot from time to time. Slow and "low-res" by today's standard, but that Zeiss lens combined with an APSC-sized sensor can produce some excellent results. Don't think I'll ever sell it.
🖤2023 is the year of DIGICAM and all the now vintage digital cameras... BRING IT ON 🙏🙏🙏
I still have it as my second camera. Very fun to use and very good under daylight. My first camera is a super zoom. So I prefer this one for wider shots. I like the fact that is still appreciated by many people.
Just bought one of these for €150. Can't wait to get it.
I love all my old gears, thanks to you Mattias. One of my Fav that you havent made a video about is the Ricoh GRD since i love Black and White.
I still have my DSC-R1 which I bought in 2005. Great lens, great ergonomics, great sensor (if you don't go over ISO 400) but RAW files take an eternity to write to the memory card. Unfortunately, both the EVF and the screen are very poor by today's standards.
P.S. I forgot to add that its leaf shutter means that you can use flash even at 1/2000.
2:43 -- "Unless you are dead inside, you will have *fun* with this camera." Oh man... I felt the tremors from the forums and Facebook groups when you said that. It's all for the worse, but by that definition there's a lot of zombies out there pushing the shutter button while worrying if their F1.2 lens is as sharp as broken glass when shot wide open.
I had a Nikon D200 back in the day and recently went to find another one. A DSLR from 2005 and now inexpensively priced for $50-$100 used. I love the way the CCD sensor gives off filmic color. It captures great images straight out of the box and can still hold on its own today. Paired with any Nikon F-mount manual focus lens and its like a "digital film" camera for me.
The first X100 is still amazing in 2023. Got one in great condition for 250 euros, great shooting experience and the colors are beautiful. I don't see why I'd need to buy the mark V honestly.
Yea got mine for $250 three years ago. Just sold it for $600. Crazy eh?
Got my X100S for about $130 in 2020. Just give it a quick look and people are still selling it for as much as $580.
Before I was ever really into photography, I got a Fuji FinePix bridge camera -- I couldn't tell you what model, but around 2013-2014. I didn't use it a ton, and ended up giving it away. But I recently found the SD card I had used with it, and its filled with a lot of really good pictures. It had the most comfortable grip of any camera I've used to date.
lol I still have it bought it in 2006 and lens on it is worth as entire camera. Exceptional
that is a great placement for vlogging screen!
Nice vid. Just bought 4.18 megapixel Canon EOS 1D Mark 1 in pristine condition with battery that actually works and 10,000 shutter actuations for 175 pounds. Tested against 6D Mark 1 and it’s surprisingly good. Resolution is fine for web, lower dynamic range means more contrasty shots, highlights can blow out so need to work harder with compositions and underexpose to allow shadows to go to black if necessary, though shadows are surprisingly recoverable. Have to decide whether to keep it or return. It is a heavy 4MP camera.
Thank you for the video. I've heard about this camera many times. And probably going to try it one day)
I would recommend fujifilm s5 pro with ccd sensor - most pleasing colors in my opinion.
And sigma dp1, dp2 - also have a unique signature.
I have a lot of fun using the Fuji Xe1, the Nikon d70, and also the Canon G9. These 3 camera make me slow a bit, but I Get some beautiful and organic color from them.
As always really nice video.
For fun...Canon XC15. I would like to see a take 2 of a modern technology XC style camera. 1" DGO sensor, 22-220mm built-in lens, nice bright high resolution screen, mini-xlr from C70, PnP USB-c webcam, BP-A30 battery.
my second camera that i own was Lumix Lx3, what a fun little camera. the photo are so rich and beautiful i especially love the black and white that come out of that camera. i actually still have it, i might bring it out i just need to get new battery for it.
Great camera. When I first switched from film to digital - it was my first digital camera. Loved it, grew out of it and switched to Fuji X. Kind of miss it when I scroll through my old shots I made with it. Although media cards are pretty outdated and it is very slow - it was a good next step for me after switching from film
My new “joyful” new camera is the Sony F828. Super ccd sensor goodness. Love it.
Great Video! I just got hold of Lumix LX7 having Leica 24 - 90mm in 35mm equiv. F1.4/2.3 lens.
Tiny little system .. enjoying it a lot.. picked it used for $100 has great macro capabilities @24mm (35mm equivalent)..
I am going to try Wide Angle macro.. let’s see ..
And yes..ND Fillter is very useful
My most joyful older camera, I have two I think - I have a Sony a350 which is such a weird thing, genuinely forward looking and a crazy 14mp CCD sensor - which is high megapixels for ccd! And I have an olympus epl7, which is tiny, easy to use for snapshots and when coupled with the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 makes a super affordable 16mp ricoh griiix alternative (bit bigger, bit heavier, fewer features but still!). Just great fun.
Åh, detta gjorde min dag. Älskar min R1.
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I'm really fond of my collecton of Konica lenses, together with my A7II
The 57mm f1,4 and the 24mm f2,8 in particular !
This was my first camera when I was 18 at first year of cinema school.
Oh, many thanks for calling it a Pro camera. I used it for many years, paid around £500 second hand. As soon as I saw the fast wide Carl Zeiss lens and large APS sensor, I didn't look any further. Also it was one of the first mirrorless cameras and I loved the fact it didn't have anything slapping about inside, although when a friend used it, no image stabilisation either, that was for Olympus to develop. The low / waist level display is always a comfortable method of getting those interesting angles and this camera was ideal for that different view.
I used the aRGB colour space, thinking what great colours it gave, especially greens, although didn't print much and since then understand more about colour profiles and have gone back to sRGB to be like everyone else. It did look good on an aRGB monitor, (not calibrated). I gave up waiting for a R1 replacement, just after Sony brought out Minolta, since they went in to the TSLR designs which was also original and pushed the specs further, as well as the costs. Great concept, which is relieved with the RX series.
I carried the R1 everywhere, not too heavy really. I even got a set of 67mm dia close up lenses to go with it. The manual zoom must have stuck with me, as I went on to the much smaller and lighter Fuji X10, but still missed that larger APS-C sensor and sharp lens on the Sony.
Like many older cameras, I found a touch of -0.3 EV helped to protect the highlights and enrich the colours now and then.
Anyway, back to pro cameras and I have dipped into the Nikon system with the wonderful Nikon D200 (for £70 a body) and have used my Dad's old manual As-i lenses, which all fully work fine with the Nikon 'system'. And I thought that was my first pro camera within my collection - well first weather proof camera anyway.
I bought 2 second hand as the first was so good and cheap ,and the adapter with tele lens, stunning image quality that has natural colours and does not blow out, 20"x16" prints on wall at f8, no detectable softness at extreme edges!
Ive bought and enjoying few old CCD cams, Pentax K100D Nikon D 70s; D80; D200 lately
Beautiful camera 👍
I love Sony DSC - F 717 and Minolta Dimage A7i 🙂
D700 - love it!
My current joyful Digi camera is Olympus Stylus XZ-1 from its 1/1.63 CCD and pocketable usability.
Now I am searching for Olympus Stylus 1 as I really enjoy the colors Olympus renders.
Had a lot of fun with my Canon Elph SD1100 for a good many years, before passing it to my niece as her first digital camera. I had it from new, but Canon digicams from that generation have a bit of a cult following these days. Just lovely colors, and a great feel in hand with a real metal body. It may be somewhat cheap, but it never felt like it in the hand.
My Epson R-D1 is probably my most joyful older camera. I love it so much I bought a second one. My Fujifilm X-T1 probably comes in Second.
My current favourite "old" camera is the Leica Digilux 2. Tempted to get a R1. Agree...great for the environment ;-)
Nokia 808 Pureview was my guilty pleasure
lately i use lumix lx5, it's small but fun camera. always stand by at my jacket, everywhere i go.
Hi Mattias, great camera. Just been looking over a DSC-400H from 2014. It was my friends late fathers camera and my friend wanted to know it it was OK. Very small sensor but 20Mp and a crazy 24-1550mm zoom. Charged the battery and it takes reasonable pictures, even at 1550mm. If I see a DSC-R1 I'll grab it. Using a Canon Powershot SX100 IS as my daily carry.
DSC R1 is in a different league for image quality, super zooms due to the compromises are unable to match the lens here, which is worth £2000+ if it was detachable
Old Sony cameras have quite good color science. Like the Sony A900. Also their B&W are really good too. They were probably from the Minolta research department.
To me, the SLT’s had a nicer color rendering than the A7 series. Those cameras are cheap now too, lenses too. Except the A99ii, resale holding strong.
@@rdpete still using my A77 from time time. Great ergonomics (much better than my A7 series) and nice colors. My only real disappointment with that camera was the low light capabilities. My A7Rii fixes that.
The Sony R1 is previous to their purchase of Minolta I believe.
i am currently waiting (still, almost a week) on a charger for a lumix lx3, which i will hopefully be able to make my gr alternative. otherwise my fav old ass cam is my pentax k10d. absolute legend. the k5 is great too! very nice and flexible DNGs.
I own it! I paid only 98 euro!!! Fantastic camera, another camera that i have is the Sony dsc-v3 ccd with 14bit color range, compact but very special camera.
I remember wanting one of these, but getting the significantly cheaper Kodak P880 instead. No APSC sensor, and a less robust build, but many similar features such as zoom range, RAW, EV. It was hard finding cameras at this time that went this wide, there just weren't many options and even a lot of pro level cameras were APSC with few wide lenses available.
That one is still well regarded from what I've seen! The color science is similar to the Olympus E-300/E-500 which gets a lot of praise
Hi Matthias
I bought one for 105euro including shipping. Found a dual battery charger for 15euro.
It came with 3 batteries!
Needed to leave the camera on charging cable for over a day, or else it would revert to factory settings when changing batteries.
Now it works flawlessly and the image quality is stunning!
Disadvantage? The weight of over 1 kilo.
I feel lucky.
It’s not 20 years old but I just got a 5d III and I lovvvee it. It’s so fun!
Its a modern classic and I still see it among pros when in sport arenas. It will be capable for another ten years both for pro stills and video. A true icon.
I'm having the same fun shooting with a leica x1, actually I bought because of your review hahahaha. My everyday camera
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Mine is the Lumix gf1 with the 20mm pancake. A joy to use.
That’s a great setup! So small!
I have an unhealthy love of old digicams, particularly any that would shoot raw files. Funnily enough the camera I use the most out of the collection is a Canon S95. It's not particularly fast lens wise, but the 10mp CCD sensor puts outs files I can enhance/work with that you would have to really look to spot a difference in the 8x10's I usually print. I have the Fuji XQ1 that uses the great xtrans 2 sensor, but honestly, the colors off the S95 easily rival it. I have a lot of the larger compacts as well like the Fuji X10/X30, Nikon P7800, Canon G16, Pentax MX-1, etc but I really gravitate towards the truly compact compacts like the S95, XQ1, P330, Sigmas, the GR's, etc and their siblings.
Love my S95 and am happy with the images, even by today's standards. I moved to the Sony RX100 after that for my pocket camera.
I’ve become a big fan of the Sony F828. Fun camera.
i got a hasselblad H4d50 because of you. CCD sensor. I got it for a steal. with 4 lenses, changed my life that camera. though can't get over iso 200. even 200 is pushing it.
Hey what do think about the nikon coolpix A, looks similar to the ricoh gr ii. Maybe a video about that?
I still have one. Got it for $150 still works so far.
Good deal 👍
@@gearreallydoesntmatter much appreciated. Staring at it now. 😂
I just got a Fuji X-A1 in mint condition for $189. I thought that was pretty good for a ASP-C sensor camera that looks and functions like new. The dynamic range on it is impressive even though it has a regular bayer sensor and not the Fuji xtran. I also like my Olympus XZ-1 so much I'm thinking of sending it to have some dust removed from the sensor. If you stay at lower ISO's it is very impressive. It was the first compact digital camera that had a lens worthy of Olympus's Zuiko badge. Wish we could post samples in the comments. :)
Right now am using an older Panasonic Lumix LX5; since it is a small compact I keep it in my purse. True I can take pics with my phone, however I prefer the ergonomics of using the LX5.
Most joyful older camera? Easy! Canon Powershot G9. Small, pocketable (in a coat), well-built, full-featured and lovely CCD image quality 👌
I wish more modern cameras would use some of the creative designs of the early digicam market
Currently, I'm enjoying a Lumix FZ-50 / Leica V LUX-1. Not APS-C but still lots of fun and has great image quality. The lens is amazing and it costs 25 euro nowadays
My first digital camera was the Fujifilm Finepix S9100 and I still have it.
The EVF and autofocus are not that great and lens is slow. But it has a great lens zoom range and overall handling is very good.
Canon 5D classic is my most joyful older camera. And my favorite old lens is the Canon usm 100mm F/2
Fuji S7000 was my camera from 2004 till 2012 and I got some of my best pictures from it. Fuji always has had interesting sensors and this was no different. It's 6 million photodiodes produced 12 MP images. The 6X bright optical zoom got me fantastic nighttime shots. After eight years of solid performance, it died on me. :(
i gotta love my nikon coolpix l3 tiny but creates lovely images for only 4mp
CANON AE-1 with a 35-70 autofocus lens on it. :P and also a medium format camera from the '50s. bought it for 10 euros and it works great
Gosh, I wanted that camera so bad back then
10 megapixel Nikon d200 i got for free after selling the included lens. The ccd colors really makes it fun to create with.
I gotta say. A modern 10megapixel video centric APSC camera would be awesome for low light. Like an A7000s.
My main camera is still my beloved Nikon d700. But I’m looking out for this Sony R1!
This IS my most joyful older camera! Probably the only camera I truly regret selling.
Leica X Typ 113 is joy to use
I had luck and get it a year ago for 70euros and its a lot of fun