The Airbus A321XLR Will Permanently Change US Aviation

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  • Опубликовано: 15 фев 2021
  • US airlines cannot wait for the Airbus A321XLR to enter their fleets. Already, airlines are dropping hints and considering new ways the long-haul narrowbody jet will unlock new routes in a post-crisis world. Currently the closest thing to a true Boeing 757 replacement, this plane could seriously change the way Americans travel.
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Комментарии • 556

  • @osasunaitor
    @osasunaitor 3 года назад +188

    The video doesn't mention that while Delta hasn't ordered any A321XLR so far, they have actually ordered 100 regular A321neos to substitute their 757s, so the XLR is still a likely possibility for them

    • @spongebubatz
      @spongebubatz 3 года назад +21

      Exactly! And as there aren’t any delivery slots for Delta‘s A321neos yet they are quite flexible when it comes to upgrading orders to A321XLRs

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 3 года назад +8

      This is true. They ordered about 100 A220 100 and A220 -300

    • @widget787
      @widget787 3 года назад +8

      They already ordered the XLR more or less. They have 100 Neos on order as you say. As the XLR will be produced on the same production line as other Neo variants they can just change part of their order/certain delivery slots to the XLR up to a certain point. So they have no need to rush and can wait what Boeing will offer.

    • @bcshelby4926
      @bcshelby4926 3 года назад +2

      ..yeah I can see Delta converting a number of those Neo orders to XLRs as well. At best the NMA won't roll out until at least 2025 if not 2026 (Boeing has still not settled on a configuration with the "on and off" again status), Once rolled out, give it another year (maybe year and a half after the 737 Max debacle) for testing and certification before it is ready to enter service.

    • @sebastianfloyd372
      @sebastianfloyd372 2 года назад

      The 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300

  • @jakeschroeder1553
    @jakeschroeder1553 3 года назад +51

    I remember about 10 years ago flying from central US to Hong Kong. The only way to get there was a 747 to Tokyo followed by an A330. Now, you'd be lucky to see either of those serving a route like that. It would no doubt be a 787/A350 direct flight. Times have certainly changed!

    • @yoda101
      @yoda101 3 года назад +2

      Well I suppose but then again I can't remember seeing a direct flight from Wichita to Hong Kong these days :D

  • @saizonoumelchior693
    @saizonoumelchior693 3 года назад +260

    The plane that makes Boeing go crazy

    • @aarondynamics1311
      @aarondynamics1311 3 года назад +59

      That and the A220

    • @df3555
      @df3555 3 года назад +64

      Because Boeing is arrogant and thinks it can dictate what the market needs, as opposed to Airbus reacting to market trends.

    • @saizonoumelchior693
      @saizonoumelchior693 3 года назад +4

      @@df3555 the Chinese are coming to change that

    • @transairhungary
      @transairhungary 3 года назад +18

      They will put GE-90 on 737

    • @aarondynamics1311
      @aarondynamics1311 3 года назад +32

      @@transairhungary The engines would be the same size as the fuselage lol

  • @SR_superior_1000
    @SR_superior_1000 3 года назад +88

    "This could change the way America travels" true

    • @gooner72
      @gooner72 3 года назад +4

      Exactly......... on more Airbus aircraft than ever, which will annoy Boeing.

    • @johnwilliam8366
      @johnwilliam8366 3 года назад +1

      Excellent , when can I fly on the A320 XLR from KLAX to KJFK

  • @alexandernorman5337
    @alexandernorman5337 3 года назад +71

    Yeah, NMA is more like 2029 or 2030.

    • @jorgepowell6551
      @jorgepowell6551 3 года назад +11

      By that time the XLR will be In the Market 6 years and airlines cannot wait from long time and looks like the NMA will be 40 or 50% more expensive than XLR

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +2

      How can Boeing make NMA both cheap and efficient against A321XLR?

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 3 года назад

      Definitely not until 2025

    • @RobertsonDCCD
      @RobertsonDCCD 3 года назад

      @@steinwaldmadchen I don’t see that as possible. The real question is whether Boeing can capitalize on the XLR’s flaws and compromises to produce a better plane that offers a better value. The XLR does offer compelling economics for this niche, but it will fly low and slow, will carry very little cargo (fuel tanks consume much of the rear hold), and has no proper answer for crew rest quarters. It will also be challenged flying into shorter or higher altitude fields. My sense is that Boeing will eventually offer a better product, but it will be far too expensive for the niche and too late to the party.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад

      @@RobertsonDCCD The question actually lies on Boeing's capability to mass produce CFRP imo, which the answer is no. (To be fair, neither Airbus, nor any other companies)
      A widebody by nature has more drag and weight than similar narrowbodies, as shown by 757 vs A310/767. A321 inherits similar advantages over proposed NMA while being a compromised frame.
      With CFRP Boeing might catch up on weight and drag by "double bubble" cross section, and shine in terms of capability. However given 787 production is mediocre at best, there's no chance they can make it cheap enough in 2020s, especially when A320s are some of the cheapest jet to be made.
      Meanwhiel Aluminum NMA would be incompetitve by the given reasons.

  • @cosmic_picnic
    @cosmic_picnic 3 года назад +9

    My native Air Astana ) they already started changing their 757s to A321LR

  • @breathtakingblue
    @breathtakingblue 3 года назад +5

    Now, a Boeing 757 NEO would be a dream come true! The 757 is a powerful beast!

    • @totalrecone
      @totalrecone 3 года назад +1

      (was) Like you, I have an attachment to a particular aircraft, the MD 80. Sadly it is no more, and the same fate will befall the 757. We can dream that one day, they may come back. . . but they will be dreams only.

  • @Sam_Beck
    @Sam_Beck 3 года назад +18

    Can't wait for the A321XLR

    • @ClickNBuild
      @ClickNBuild 3 года назад

      Same

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +1

      @Boeing 737 MAX 8 A Jetblue A321LR/XLR could easily beat UA/AA 787 in comfort, even in Business class.

    • @sheerluckholmes5468
      @sheerluckholmes5468 3 года назад

      Interesting that you " *Can't* wait for the A321XLR", what are you going to so instead? Oh that's right .... wait .. just like everyone else.

    • @momoooo12
      @momoooo12 3 года назад

      @Boeing 737 MAX 8 if its the normal 3-3-3 787, or 3-4-3 777 the i'd pick A321 10/10. It's just more comfy and offer more leg room. But if its JAL 2-4-2, A350, or 2-4-2 A330neo then i'd pick em over A321XLR lol

    • @Perich29
      @Perich29 2 года назад

      It could kill some of the flying theaters.

  • @michiganwannarbor3255
    @michiganwannarbor3255 3 года назад +5

    I flew from Chicago to Edinburgh on a 757. It was worth not doing a layover in London, or Paris. Saved about 6 hours.

    • @Brandon-qr2or
      @Brandon-qr2or 3 года назад +4

      I was just saying that. A single isle is good for me. I'm not sure why everyone keeps talking about widebody, when they only access one at any given time

    • @widget787
      @widget787 3 года назад +2

      This is the thing that I love about Narrowbody on longhaul the most! Saving Lots of time.

    • @spongebubatz
      @spongebubatz 3 года назад +2

      I crossed the Atlantic 5 times on a 757 and I really can’t complain! For really long routes widebodies may be nicer as the fuselage isn’t as narrow but for routes from Central Europe to the East Coast of the US the 757 is awesome and because of the Lay-out you have a much higher chance to get a window seat!

  • @rishiflying6686
    @rishiflying6686 3 года назад

    Hello there I took your survey it was interesting and I had fun thx for the great work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @Elias-xy9kc
    @Elias-xy9kc 3 года назад +4

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    • @e6o
      @e6o 3 года назад

      You get "stunned" on a daily basis?

    • @SimpleFlyingNews
      @SimpleFlyingNews  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback! - TB

    • @Elias-xy9kc
      @Elias-xy9kc 3 года назад +1

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  • @Enzo0694
    @Enzo0694 3 года назад +7

    I think the main advantage is that the a321xlr can take off and land on medium long runways that isn't possible with a B767 or A330. NY->Santorini, NY->Catania ♥♥♥

  • @MSRTA_Productions
    @MSRTA_Productions 3 года назад +28

    I did see that Delta is planning on getting 321NEOs

  • @bluewonder2007
    @bluewonder2007 3 года назад +5

    Airbus keeps moving forward while Boeing was busy fighting the small Bombardier CSeries, later became also an Airbus A220 ;)

  • @tommytube268
    @tommytube268 3 года назад +11

    Yeah as long as every seat is full, A220-300 is extended and much more room for your passengers to enjoy their flights and will bring repeat customers.

    • @ThunderStruck94660
      @ThunderStruck94660 3 года назад +2

      The A220 is an excellent aircraft.

    • @mariombrbovic8188
      @mariombrbovic8188 2 года назад

      U assume that the Airbus XLR will have added legroom ? At first maybe. But airlines r notorious for adding seats not legroom !!!!

  • @BestOfAviation
    @BestOfAviation 3 года назад +13

    Looking forward to the A321XLR! Gonna be such a good plane.

  • @aregularperson7573
    @aregularperson7573 3 года назад +24

    I think Boeing made A big mistake on dropping the ball on the 757 replacement and they are going to pay for it

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 3 года назад +5

      They have had much bigger mistakes to worry about

    • @jhmcd2
      @jhmcd2 3 года назад +3

      Not really. The A321 Neo and XLR were already on the way out before the NMA program was announced. That is when the US carriers put in orders. The reality was, they offered airlines a re-engined 757 (a 757MAX if you will) back in the early 2000s but no one bought in. They even offered a smaller 787 which could have served as an NMA which also didn't sell. If anything they were too far ahead of the curve, and then rushed to catch up. That is what they are paying for.

    • @markar6395
      @markar6395 3 года назад

      Agreed

    • @Gabriel.Vargas
      @Gabriel.Vargas 3 года назад

      @@jhmcd2 those were the days we was all expecting things like A380 for the future. Well, everything has changed, even before covid!

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +1

      @@jhmcd2 Well, if Boeing successfully launched a Y1 they might have the same if not better ability to launch a LR/XLR. Unfortunately Airbus checked them with A320NEO......

  • @youtube2be892
    @youtube2be892 3 года назад +4

    Definitely a game changer... Hope to see a number of them crossing the Atlantic every day, providing plenty of options for transatlantic flights

  • @jorgepowell6551
    @jorgepowell6551 3 года назад +27

    The boeing NMA could be ready in 8 or 9 years By that time the XLR will be In the Market 6 years and airlines cannot wait for long time and looks like the NMA will be 40 or 50% more expensive than XLR

    • @ernestmachpro3341
      @ernestmachpro3341 3 года назад +5

      Boeing runs behind Airbus now...

    • @woodduck2178
      @woodduck2178 3 года назад +3

      But you have to remember the NMA will be more specified and more efficient so when it comes it will be a real thorn for airbus but for now airbus has a huge lead

    • @extrude22
      @extrude22 3 года назад

      Didn’t Boeing say that the NMA is dead?

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 3 года назад +1

      @@ernestmachpro3341 So who is Airbus going to ripoff then? The A300 was their last original idea.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +2

      @@woodduck2178 Unfortunately NMA would not be more efficient. A321 has the privilage of being a single aisle, which kept weight and drag low.
      Double bobble or whatever may help NMA catching up, but that face another question - A321XLR is a family of highly successful A320NEO program, which costs are paid off and level of economies of scale is unpreceded. Heavy discounts and / or another stretch of A322 would sufficiently kept a numbers of customers happy, with or without NMA. Or Airbus could launch their NSA / A330NEO successor to harm Boeing in some of their key market.

  • @BestOfAviation
    @BestOfAviation 3 года назад

    Love your vids

  • @Ben-xe8ps
    @Ben-xe8ps 3 года назад +30

    Question is, do passengers really want to fly longhaul on a narrow body twin engine jet?

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 3 года назад

      Time will tell.

    • @skyserf
      @skyserf 3 года назад +26

      They already have. The 757 has done transatlantic flights for ages.

    • @anthonyglee1710
      @anthonyglee1710 3 года назад +13

      I’ve done umpteen trips transatlantic on 757s which is narrower than the A321. Really no different once you’re in your seat.

    • @karolybanfai5852
      @karolybanfai5852 3 года назад +2

      @@anthonyglee1710 well it hugely depends on the seat tho...

    • @Caledon91
      @Caledon91 3 года назад +4

      I don't but I think most people only care about ticket prices and flying these will be cheaper.

  • @JetBOY320
    @JetBOY320 3 года назад +17

    Delhi-London, Delhi-Tokyo that routes look sick.

    • @diecastvobl
      @diecastvobl 3 года назад +1

      Air India already does Delhi-London

    • @JetBOY320
      @JetBOY320 3 года назад +2

      @@diecastvobl imagine doing that route in LCC like IndiGo.

    • @diecastvobl
      @diecastvobl 3 года назад +2

      @@JetBOY320 ye I would never imagine Indigo or vistara doing that

    • @JetBOY320
      @JetBOY320 3 года назад +1

      @@diecastvobl maybe vistara will do that. They brought 5 Boeing 787-9 for long haul operations.

    • @129aslamnurfikrir4
      @129aslamnurfikrir4 3 года назад +2

      I think A321XLR would be used on less popular routes and to smaller airports. Widebodies would still be used on dense routes

  • @hoo3850
    @hoo3850 3 года назад +1

    can't wait to fly it!

  • @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852
    @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852 3 года назад +24

    Single isle planes on long flights are a pain. You need a huge bladder cause you gotta hold it while the food cart is out.🤔

    • @gregsmith3410
      @gregsmith3410 3 года назад +4

      Absolutely true!!

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 года назад +2

      Don’t know which airlines you fly on but most airlines have a toilet at the front and back

    • @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852
      @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852 3 года назад +3

      @@tomstravels520 Hawaiian a321neo did have a toilet in front for first class one in back for economy.

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 года назад +1

      @@twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852 my tactic is go just before boarding plane then as soon as food cart appears then go and back before it passes my seat

    • @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852
      @twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852 3 года назад +1

      @@tomstravels520 next time I’ll get first class or pick a seat next to the loo!

  • @momoooo12
    @momoooo12 3 года назад +16

    The most important thing for comfort is the wide of the seat it self, not how many aisle the plane has. I have a chance to use Korean Air A220 from Jeju to ICN, And its more comfy than cramped 10 abrest 777 and 9 abrest 787. Also any domestic flight from Perth is often use 737 and its completly fine

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +3

      Well 737 is classified as cramped in many of the configs, compared to Ejet, A320 or A220.

    • @tmorris0
      @tmorris0 3 года назад +1

      That's fine if you are booked in anything but economy, but most economy seats are 17" wide. So, it doesn't matter if it's 6 abreast or 10 abreast, you still shoved in there like sardines. Also, at least in the U.S., airlines are primarily focused on squeezing as many rows as possible in economy. I know the average seat pitch is 30"-31". I do not want to be in something that cramped for ten hours. Plus I get a little claustrophobic on narrowbodies, I am sure I am not the only one. It's great that you don't mind these downgrades, perhaps you travel for work, but consider those traveling for leisure. I have no confidence that airlines will modify ticket prices after maximizing PAX. So considering that seat pitches will continue to shrink until the average is 28" or 29", At a certain point, flying will be too uncomfortable, and many people will be too tired to enjoy their trip. Leisure travel won't be worth the effort before long.

  • @sonebaccam5860
    @sonebaccam5860 3 года назад +1

    A321 XLR can’t wait to fly in the future 👌👌🎉🎉

  • @ethan2226
    @ethan2226 3 года назад +22

    This plane could do routes to and from Hawaii and the US Mainland.

    • @ethan2226
      @ethan2226 3 года назад +3

      Hawaiian Airports served by the A321XLR could include Kahului, Kona, Lihue, and Hilo.

    • @liamhildebrant8867
      @liamhildebrant8867 3 года назад +2

      From Seattle or as far away as Boston

    • @shahimagesyt
      @shahimagesyt 3 года назад +7

      It is already doing it with standard neo unless you mean Hawaii to Midwest and Hawaii to East Coast

    • @munich6116
      @munich6116 3 года назад

      @@shahimagesyt I think he meant all in one run

    • @MaggieKeizai
      @MaggieKeizai 3 года назад +2

      I've gone PDX to HNL in a 321. Wasn't very pleasant.

  • @747simmer4
    @747simmer4 3 года назад +1

    it’ll be crazy seeing JetBlue parked at the tom Bradley terminal at LAX

  • @kurniaaan283
    @kurniaaan283 2 года назад

    Awesome

  • @alfredkc
    @alfredkc 3 года назад +15

    Let’s hope that Ryanair doesn’t get hold of one of these.

    • @osasunaitor
      @osasunaitor 3 года назад +7

      They will stick to the 737 and 737MAX for now

    • @filledwithvariousknowledge1065
      @filledwithvariousknowledge1065 3 года назад +14

      Airbus doesn’t want to do business with them (Ryanair walked away from a deal with Airbus at the last second 10 years to get a better discount from Boeing) so I would not worry. You don’t want to be on their packed 737 Max 8-200’s though as they have less legroom than their 189 seat 737-800’s (both aircraft are the same length) for 200 seats (an extra exit door pair from Max 9 was needed for safety evacuation reasons)

    • @alfredkc
      @alfredkc 3 года назад +2

      @@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 Didn’t know that. I guess you do learn something new everyday.

    • @ConcordeError404
      @ConcordeError404 3 года назад +4

      If they get A321 XLR and land with it, the runway won't get damaged
      In fact the runway will disappear all together from impact

    • @aarondynamics1311
      @aarondynamics1311 3 года назад +3

      Ryanair would never think about ordering Airbus aircraft, so that's not going to happen

  • @aarondynamics1311
    @aarondynamics1311 3 года назад +3

    I find it surprising that, out of United, Delta and American Airlines, Delta has the most Airbus heavy fleet and yet they are the only airline out of the big 3 US airlines that hasn't ordered the A321XLR

  • @m.a.5993
    @m.a.5993 3 года назад +9

    6+ hour flights on a narrow body... Excellent passenger experience

    • @nw6gmp
      @nw6gmp 3 года назад

      🤣🤣

    • @tortue71
      @tortue71 3 года назад

      i've flown only one time on a widebody while a lot on narrowbody. The widebody was the least comfortable by far.

    • @jamesnardini
      @jamesnardini 3 года назад

      This is my fear. Ive only flown wide body to EU and I can’t imagine flying anything smaller...

  • @herrfred1322
    @herrfred1322 3 года назад +16

    I've got the feeling that planes like these will kill the beautiful heavies :(

    • @herrfred1322
      @herrfred1322 3 года назад +3

      @Harold Yeoh won't happen with the 321 but probably with its replacement

    • @spongebubatz
      @spongebubatz 3 года назад +2

      It will only be used on smaller markets, widebodies will stay on routes between hubs with more demand

    • @martinortiz575
      @martinortiz575 3 года назад +4

      In a not so distant future the biggest aircraft models are going to be the A350 and the 787. Sadly i believe that the 777 is not going to fly much more time than up to 2040. Narrow bodies are going to reign alone. Narrow bodies are the new normal.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence 3 года назад +1

      overflying countries costs money. calculated in weight so the bigger you are the more you pay. small lightweight jets are the way. the original long haul 707 only had seating for 137 people. now 'small' jets like the a321xlr seat 200. small aint so small anymore!

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 3 года назад

    That sounds interesting.

  • @Jprice141788
    @Jprice141788 3 года назад

    Very excited. I’m dying to do JetBlues Mint to London

  • @R1chardH
    @R1chardH 3 года назад +1

    Its ability to switch from LH to domestic in a recession for example (avoiding obseletion) while still being efficient must be a key risk reducer for airlines

  • @karann4335
    @karann4335 3 года назад +2

    i guess it will benefit pilots as well since more young pilots would be allowed to do international flights because of A321xlr

  • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
    @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 года назад +14

    The A321xlr is an excellent aircraft but the 757 will be forever in my hearts.

  • @wiledmanrandall
    @wiledmanrandall 3 года назад +1

    I think it's a game changer and they won't be able to fit as many in the hanger durning maintenance. I've been excited about it ever since I first learned about the A321XLR.

  • @quovadis5172
    @quovadis5172 3 года назад

    That’s excellent! Also, I won’t worry about the aircraft slamming into the ground 4 minutes after takeoff.

  • @supremewhip
    @supremewhip 3 года назад +1

    It’s going to be hell crammed in something that size for an international long haul flight.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence 3 года назад

      the original 707 had seating for 137 people and no one complained. the a321xlr will be fine.

  • @Jabid21
    @Jabid21 3 года назад

    Definitely excited. Narrow body is cheaper to operate making transatlantic flights cheaper. Also this will enable travel between odd/low-demand destinations in North America and Europe.

  • @greg81077
    @greg81077 3 года назад +1

    A direct flight from BIQ to BKK would be great !!!!

  • @bitchpudding2945
    @bitchpudding2945 3 года назад +14

    It's a shame a lot of airlines are going to start retiring their 757... I always loved the aesthetic of these aircrafts and the 747 as well. I miss the days when you went to a major airport and would see so many varied aircraft types. Now all the planes look the same and it's boring. From a business standpoint I completely understand. But the aviation enthusiast side of me is sighing

    • @4vndd
      @4vndd 3 года назад +1

      You're absolutely spot on there...!!!... They all practically look the same...just painted externally differently...

  • @happilyham6769
    @happilyham6769 3 года назад +16

    I would never fly long-haul coach on a narrow-body.

    • @bitchpudding2945
      @bitchpudding2945 3 года назад +10

      I mean, what's the difference between that and flying a wide-body? I would assume leg room would be the same on both aircraft (depending on the airline)

    • @LotusFlyer
      @LotusFlyer 3 года назад +6

      honestly the only difference is that there is only one aisle rather than two

    • @bitchpudding2945
      @bitchpudding2945 3 года назад +2

      @@LotusFlyer So why wouldn't you want to fly long-haul on a narrow body then?

    • @happilyham6769
      @happilyham6769 3 года назад +2

      Narrow-body aircraft remind me too much of buses. I don't like buses.

    • @bitchpudding2945
      @bitchpudding2945 3 года назад +1

      @@happilyham6769 Fair point

  • @mikeyriley8959
    @mikeyriley8959 3 года назад

    Long haul narrow body service is not a new idea when you think back to the 707 and DC-8. Maybe for a narrow twin but the 757 had the range to do many of those routes. The down side is that there is no room for freight below.

  • @yerdanamaulenbay2903
    @yerdanamaulenbay2903 3 года назад

    The thing is, I have flown with Airbus A321LR with Air Astana on a 6 hour flight, and have to say, although the service was very good, it can not compete with wide body aircraft (A330) on long haul missions.

  • @CARBONHAWK1
    @CARBONHAWK1 3 года назад +24

    Hopefully they don’t get too comfortable with this, being packed like sardines flying for 5+ in a narrow body?

    • @rlam95
      @rlam95 3 года назад +1

      PTY-MVD and PTY-SFO are all done in 737NG/MAX by Copa Airlines 🤣. Both are 6-7 hour flights

    • @78Dipar
      @78Dipar 3 года назад +9

      Narrow body doesn't mean narrow seats. Seats will be 18" wide ont the A321XLR while they are 17" in Boeing

    • @filledwithvariousknowledge1065
      @filledwithvariousknowledge1065 3 года назад +1

      The seat comfort though and legroom will be the real deal breaker. So even if the seat is 18inches wide, if you flew on A321XLR with Wizz Air you’ll be as tightly packed as Ryanair as Wizz Air are putting the 244 seat limit and the seats are highly likely to be uncomfortable. The worst part is Wizz Air wants to use it on 6 hour flights😬

    • @CARBONHAWK1
      @CARBONHAWK1 3 года назад +3

      @@78Dipar you do know that varies from carrier to carrier. It’s almost negligible on some instances.

    • @ItsMe-ve7dk
      @ItsMe-ve7dk 3 года назад +1

      Beggars can’t be choosers.. there’s always be the business class anyway.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @clems33fr
    @clems33fr 3 года назад +2

    I don't understand why Delta didn't takes the A321XLR. They will have an 100% airbus fleet.

    • @spongebubatz
      @spongebubatz 2 года назад

      They have orders for the A321neo, Airbus is quite flexible when it comes to upgrading orders to the LR or even XLR

    • @GarlandTexasSpotter2024
      @GarlandTexasSpotter2024 6 месяцев назад

      @@spongebubatz(2 years late) Exactly, Deltas only Boeing aircraft in service is 737s, 767s, 717s and 757s. Delta has plans to retire the 757 and 717 fleets to replace them with A321XLR and the A220. They might keep the 737s for another 6 years. Also, delta has 737 max 10s and 8s on order. Deltas fleet in 2030 will be almost all Airbus except the 737 Max, 737 NG and 767. Delta also had 787 Dreamliners on order when Northwest Airlines had it. Those orders are cancelled with A330neos and A350s.

  • @UncleBooBoo
    @UncleBooBoo 3 года назад +1

    When I fly over the Atlantic I want to be in a big plane! I avoided 757s like the plague!

  • @intergalactic_butterfly
    @intergalactic_butterfly 3 года назад +2

    The Boeing 757 didn't start narrow-body long-haul travel; that honor belongs to the jet pioneers: the Boeing 707 and the Douglas DC-8

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 3 года назад

      Those were quad engine airplanes

    • @intergalactic_butterfly
      @intergalactic_butterfly 3 года назад

      @@johniii8147 The statement made toward the end of the video was not towards the number of engines used, but simply that "narrow-body, long-haul" operations "which began with the 757."
      Of course the 707 and DC-8 were quad-jets! The primary concern most people have now is not the number of engines, but the comfort of flying a narrow-body across long distances, which the 707 and DC-8 did very very well!

    • @widget787
      @widget787 3 года назад

      The 757 re-invented it.

    • @intergalactic_butterfly
      @intergalactic_butterfly 3 года назад

      @@widget787 I would agree with that, for sure! I flew on a 757 from JFK to Edinburgh; a completely fine flight :)

    • @widget787
      @widget787 3 года назад

      @@intergalactic_butterfly I flew between Hamburg and Newark many times when Continental/United flew the 757 there. Thats up to more than 9 hours!

  • @era5104
    @era5104 3 года назад +18

    XLR is simply a new 757

    • @arielsegal7515
      @arielsegal7515 3 года назад +2

      Yes its is!! but with very less Muscle :-))

    • @albertogambino2562
      @albertogambino2562 3 года назад +2

      With even longer range.

    • @sebastianfloyd372
      @sebastianfloyd372 2 года назад

      @@albertogambino2562 Airbus should make Airbus A321XERs the extra extended range A321NEOs longer than the A321NEO the LR and the XLR

    • @sebastianfloyd372
      @sebastianfloyd372 2 года назад

      Er a: the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300 just the 200

  • @sethtan715
    @sethtan715 3 года назад +2

    In my opinion, the A321XLR is good choice for most American airlines like American, United, Jetblue and Frontier.

    • @sebastianfloyd372
      @sebastianfloyd372 2 года назад +1

      And Air Canada and Air Transat. Airbus should also make A321XERs

    • @sethtan715
      @sethtan715 2 года назад +1

      @@sebastianfloyd372 Yes and *XLR

    • @sethtan715
      @sethtan715 Год назад +1

      @Sebastian Floyd of course they should

    • @sethtan715
      @sethtan715 Год назад +1

      @Sebastian Floyd umm probably pw1100g would be best

    • @sethtan715
      @sethtan715 Год назад +1

      @Sebastian Floyd I think so, easier for maintenance

  • @rolandhandy9030
    @rolandhandy9030 2 года назад

    I hope airlines do not get too carried away by using this jet on routes that should be on a wide body. Imagine the lines for the rest rooms interfering with meal service. What about crew rest areas? I can see this plane doing well on transcontinental and Hawaii routes in the US

  • @jpdurr
    @jpdurr 3 года назад +3

    I disagree with your statement about "a better passenger experience" about taking a long flight on a narrow-bodied aircraft. My experience (and I'm sure of that of others) does not bear this out.

  • @intuitivme
    @intuitivme 3 года назад +2

    The Boeing NMA can not start services in 2025. No modern jetliner has ever been designed, developed and produced within 4 years. Delta waiting is only putting it at the end of the delivery schedule of the A321XLR.

    • @steinwaldmadchen
      @steinwaldmadchen 3 года назад +1

      The real question is engine. No one is making a new one for that class.

  • @ronspitchers9824
    @ronspitchers9824 3 года назад

    Everything old is new again, as a youngster I travelled in DC-8 and 707 which despite the quad engines were narrow bodies and back then its all we had till the wide bodies started to come around in the 70's. But if I had the choice to travel on a wide body or narrow on the same route, I'd take the wide anyday.

  • @Joaof-lu1kg
    @Joaof-lu1kg 3 года назад

    I hope the fly to south America with those planes. imho, airports like BSB, GYN, POA, CNF have great international routes opportunities.

    • @mel816
      @mel816 3 года назад

      I would guess that American and United already have that in mind from their hubs in Miami and Houston

  • @AgentFoxMulder1972
    @AgentFoxMulder1972 3 года назад

    It is sad that big birds are being retired due to the worldwide aviation crisis........ but for me and more tuirn around coordinators means more smaller airplanes flying so more personnel needed to turn them around........ps I never did weight and balance for the a321.... have been told it is loaded differently than the A320..

  • @albertogambino2562
    @albertogambino2562 3 года назад

    This aircraf can do what the 787 have done on longer routes. Make possible and sustainable routes that otherwise won't exist.

  • @jimjefftube
    @jimjefftube 3 года назад

    LOL, ya right! The A321XLR is a short term fix at best for a future aircraft to replace the 757.

  • @NeonSamurai4381
    @NeonSamurai4381 3 года назад

    Exciting prospects, I've never seen a narrow body business class with direct aisle access but I'd rather fly on a B777-300ER transatlantic with a bigger cabin. Boeing better step up to the plate quickly if they want to compete with the XLR as a 757 replacement.

  • @MiserableJosephson
    @MiserableJosephson 3 года назад

    Is there an ETOPS rating for the A321XLR yet? If so, what is it?

  • @FirstLast_Nba
    @FirstLast_Nba 3 года назад +1

    2024! Thats like year's away!

  • @sharifsayfe1794
    @sharifsayfe1794 3 года назад +1

    Last yeat I took a holiday flight with TUI from UK to Cape-Verde. The flight duration is nearly 6:30 on 737-800. Being on a single Isle relatively small plane is not what I will do again in my life simply because of lack of space and only 3 cramped lavatories for 180 people. Also the jet's comfort is not as good as wide bodies.

  • @sebastianfloyd372
    @sebastianfloyd372 2 года назад

    This reminds me that Airbus should make A321XERs

  • @bigtone718
    @bigtone718 3 года назад

    Jet blue just took delivery of their first A321LR last week and are already selling tickets for it's first transatlantic flights from JFK to London Gatwick in September.

  • @Ukraine2011
    @Ukraine2011 3 года назад

    Is Frontier even around anymore?

  • @robertpartington1383
    @robertpartington1383 3 года назад +6

    Itching to try Jet Blue from NY to London.

  • @Perich29
    @Perich29 2 года назад

    That could replace most of the flying theaters.

  • @travelomg4021
    @travelomg4021 3 года назад +1

    Not sure why Boeing keeps silent on narrow body XLR aircraft. I personally believe the 757 is the most good looking aircraft and an upgrade version of 757, using the latest technologies of 787 and 737 max is ideal for narrow body long haul flights.

  • @aviationetwork
    @aviationetwork 3 года назад

    What’s the airport at 3:35?

  • @savagecub
    @savagecub 2 года назад +1

    Frontier will likely cram 500 passengers on theirs !

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 3 года назад

    Essentially, the A321XLR is replacing all those rapidly-aging 757-200's. They could be common sights in much of South America and western Europe from 2025 on.

  • @ianmaritim3876
    @ianmaritim3876 3 года назад +1

    But am sure the NMA will be 🔥

  • @wiryantirta
    @wiryantirta 3 года назад +3

    Whats stopping Airbus/Boeing from making a 757 sequel...?

    • @LexWinchesterr
      @LexWinchesterr 3 года назад +1

      The A321 XLR is that sequel. More modern technology's , more comfortable and flies further. :)

  • @fastfiddler1625
    @fastfiddler1625 3 года назад

    Boeing refuses to build a new 757. Airbus says, we got this. I was never an Airbus guy until I got typed in it. Whether the original designers foresaw it or not, they really struck gold in how versatile this plane is. A318 all the way to this beast on one type rating. And without serious screwing around like on the max. The main difference for a pilot between a 318/19 and a 321neo at least is remembering you have a much bigger tail when landing.

  • @lmjr400
    @lmjr400 3 года назад +1

    A321XLR / Boeing has raised concerns over the design of arch-rival Airbus’ newest narrowbody jet, the A321XLR, saying a novel type of fuel tank could pose fire risks. In most jets, fuel is carried in wings and central tanks. For the A321XLR, Airbus plans to eke out more space for fuel by moulding one tank directly into the fuselage, meaning its shape would follow the contours of the jet and carry more fuel.
    In a submission to the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), Boeing said the architecture of a fuel tank intended to increase the A321XLR’s range “presents many potential hazards", citing risks if a jet veers off a runway or its wheels fail.

    • @user-iw3zu9ix2b
      @user-iw3zu9ix2b 3 года назад

      Can someone please tell Boeing to fix their 737 and 787 mess first before minding someone's business? It seems that they have so much time in their hands to "study" someone else's own beeswax.

    • @kuebbisch
      @kuebbisch 3 года назад

      @@user-iw3zu9ix2b Why should Boeing not comment on the design? EASA asked for feedback from the aviation community regarding the approval of this build type. So Boeing is more than welcome to make constructive feedback. It just shows that the aircraft design approval process at EASA works transparently and in public, and is not rubber stamped behind closed doors by people on the manufacturers payroll.

    • @SimpleFlyingNews
      @SimpleFlyingNews  3 года назад +1

      All will be covered by Special Conditions - completely rightly so - JB

    • @user-iw3zu9ix2b
      @user-iw3zu9ix2b 3 года назад

      @@kuebbisch Granted that your statement is true, what makes Boeing credible with all the mess and lies at the company?

    • @kuebbisch
      @kuebbisch 3 года назад

      @Su Geun As long as you tell "sorry, we did not believe boeing when they told us that flaw" to the surviving dependants in case there is a problem with the proposed integral rear center tank. It not a question of Airbus vs Boeing, it is a question of passenger safety. I don't care who raises resonable doubts, if you like the "whistle blower" or not, I care about safety. EASA will weigh all arguments and decide on special conditions that Airbus must implement so that their proposed rear center tank will receive approval.

  • @oceanlnr9414
    @oceanlnr9414 3 года назад

    I really hope Alaska orders a few of these

    • @ME-hl4bk
      @ME-hl4bk 3 года назад +1

      Unlikely, Alaska is getting rid of their Airbus aircraft from the Virgin America acquisition once their leases are up and returning to an all Boeing fleet

  • @esbuenodun
    @esbuenodun 3 года назад

    Direct flights from the west coast to the Caribbean please!

    • @lukethompson5558
      @lukethompson5558 3 года назад

      Never gonna be profitable. Maybe LAX/SFO-MBJ.. that’s it

  • @nicktecky55
    @nicktecky55 3 года назад

    What I don't get... The model pre-Covid was essentially big planes carrying lots of passengers between hubs, and onward flights in smaller planes from there. I get it that the security delays were bad enough to drive change away from that model and that will only accelerate post-Covid. But what will happen to the cargo going into these hubs? They are also major hubs of surface distribution. Heathrow for example carries 90+% of its freight in the holds of passenger planes. LHR-JFK for example, if the overall capacity drops, where does the cargo go that still wants to get to London or New York? Do we have to run more trucks from Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester? That's not very far, but the economics wouldn't add up.

  • @braddavis4276
    @braddavis4276 3 года назад +2

    I went To work for Delta Airlines way way back in 1978 ! That was the Golden Age for Delta , The most Profitable airline there was at time !! Yes as a young man I went every where BIG TIME , The world was my Oyster and I ate It YUM YUM .

  • @azeoprop
    @azeoprop 3 года назад

    A stubby widebody is more comfortable than a long narrow plane.

  • @Part_121_Wannabe
    @Part_121_Wannabe 3 года назад

    Why didnt they do it earlier with a320neo?

  • @Ernie5465
    @Ernie5465 3 года назад +1

    Long flights in a narrow body plane are claustrophobic

  • @rogerhargreaves2272
    @rogerhargreaves2272 3 года назад

    It ticks all the boxes for both airlines and passengers.

  • @spiritoftungchung
    @spiritoftungchung 3 года назад

    Airbus keeps saying the A320 is the B757 killer. That was the 1990s. Then came the A318, A319, A321. Then the A320 Neo family. And now this A321XLR. Sadly, it failed to beat the B757.

  • @lebaillidessavoies3889
    @lebaillidessavoies3889 3 года назад

    They can also easily make an a220 xlr if demand is here

  • @rumelairlines
    @rumelairlines 3 года назад +1

    A321XLR fit for Boeing 757

  • @davidzweiban5549
    @davidzweiban5549 3 года назад +2

    Obviously without saying it, it's the end of airline hubs for long haul international travel. And, as this was predicted on the Simpsons almost 20 years ago there will be non stop flights from Springfield to Paris (where Bart was an exchange student and became a French National hero for exposing a winery using glycol to instantly age wine. Lol)

    • @hey_gnatalie
      @hey_gnatalie 3 года назад +1

      pretty sure that's the same episode where he plants a bunch of kudzu along the senne

    • @lukethompson5558
      @lukethompson5558 3 года назад

      *31 years ago.. that was definitely 1st season

  • @heartinpiece
    @heartinpiece 3 года назад

    Is there anything that prevents Boeing from making an XLR like version of the MAX?

    • @didierlemoine6771
      @didierlemoine6771 3 года назад +2

      hahahahahhahahahhahhahahahhaahhahahhhahahaha !

  • @truck9094
    @truck9094 3 года назад

    For passengers is not going to be cheaper, usually that saving goes to the company.
    I would prefer Boeing 777 or 747 , I fill more safe more confident , they are the best

  • @baronvonlimbourgh1716
    @baronvonlimbourgh1716 3 года назад +1

    Hmm, at least the business class looks good.
    Maybe not that bad afteral.

  • @venfilms4383
    @venfilms4383 2 года назад

    757 : Exist
    A321XLR has joined the servee
    757 has left the server

  • @charlesn787
    @charlesn787 3 года назад

    EIS for the NMA from Boeing is at least mid 2030.

  • @frankpinmtl
    @frankpinmtl 3 года назад

    That's two segments that Boeing doesn't have a model in, the A321Neo family and the A220 family.

  • @hey_gnatalie
    @hey_gnatalie 3 года назад

    shoutouts to KPDX at 2:17, best airport in america

  • @sportsMike87
    @sportsMike87 3 года назад

    It really depends if airlines are willing to give actual leg room on these not the plane itself

    • @AA-tz2bm
      @AA-tz2bm 3 года назад +1

      @Harold Yeoh don’t say ‘9 abreast 787’ or ‘10 abreast 777’ just say ‘777’ and ‘787’. We all know the golden ages of 9 abreast 777 and 8 abreast 787 is coming to an end if JAL and ANA and ETH change. No point in specifying the configuration if it’s soon just going to be everyone ordering 1 🙃

    • @AA-tz2bm
      @AA-tz2bm 3 года назад +1

      @Harold Yeoh airbus really hit the sweet spots with their planes where they r the perfect width where airlines can’t cram 1 extra seat in them. Like how the a330 is almost always 8 abreast and the a350 9 abreast. Only the super low costs will make a 9 abreast a330 like air Asia x or cebu and air cairaibes will be doing 10 abreast with their a350.

    • @garyquan5575
      @garyquan5575 3 года назад

      @@AA-tz2bm JAL is the only airline on the planet which still runs B787's with 8 seats across in the back (but only on their international sectors). Their domestic B787 flights are configured for 9 seats across in economy.🙁🙁🙁

    • @AA-tz2bm
      @AA-tz2bm 3 года назад

      @Harold Yeoh the a321xlr is a good game changer

    • @AA-tz2bm
      @AA-tz2bm 3 года назад

      @@garyquan5575 I really need to ride a JAL 787 one day,

  • @holdensv2000
    @holdensv2000 3 года назад

    Hi, sir, this is a game-changer this 757 replace meant is a no brainer this aircraft can fly longer save more fuel and is far superior aircraft that the 757 so no wonder that most Airlines will choose this. Boeings MMA will not make it is not even a speck on paper as yet so after a pandemic we need and aircraft that can fly and is ready to go to work and not some pig in a bag we need an aircraft that is safe and ready to fly the first time and not have to crash to get a fix to say that it is the safest an aircraft should be safe the first time that it flies

  • @ryanbyrne8371
    @ryanbyrne8371 3 года назад +1

    Single aisle transatlantic routes will cause service to decrease even more than they already have. Not good news for American travelers.