Ben Stone leaving the show gave Melnick a great opportunity for a reset. Stone and Melnick (besides her first appearance) were so at odds with each other that it got really boring after a while.
@@zulfanbakri7640 It was this episode I believe where she ends up getting shot. Jack actually helps her avoid getting prosecuted, but she got shot anyway. She did recover though. As per her wiki page, she moved to Chicago and was a judge there (that happened on Chicago Justice).
I feel bad for Danielle, fuck she gets shot at the end of this episode too! But man... this is why you follow the orders of the judge as you don't know what information you pass on will do to someone!
Damn, I was such a tremendous fan of this, the original series, from 2005-2009...Sam was my favorite. Met him twice-first in 2008 at a Refugees International dinner in D.C., and then again in 2009, after an amazing performance in a play he did at Long Wharf Theater in Connecticut called ‘Have You Seen Us?’
I found this episode so great yet so frustrating. Melnick knowingly violated a judge’s order just because she personally felt like it was wrong and was an accessory to murder. McCoy should have put his personal feelings aside and charged her. I didn’t even feel satisfied when she was shot, I felt like she still got away with murder and would do it again
No she is not supposed to believe him, she is supposed to defend him to the best of her ability and see he not not convicted unless the state proves it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. And most defense attorney's work on the basis that their client is guilty.
Lawyers want to know the truth so they can help their client the best, attorney client privileges guarentees they can't be subpoenaed to testify against you
You know it was a bit disturbing seeing Melnick so vulnerable. There's a couple female lawyers in the show who are hard as nails, and she's probably the toughest one I've seen. It really shouldn't be surprising for her to suddenly drop the tough act, but I was a little taken back just watching her walls come crumbling down, and resort to a simple desperate plea.
I was shocked by this episode. Do you know how many times she was the lawyer? I expect to see dirty cops. I've even seen a lot of dirty lawyers. But a lawyer we've seen all the time? Crazy.
I just noticed this when I paused at 1:45, but is the actress playing Danielle Melnick just that short, or is Sam Waterston (Jack McCoy) just that *tall*? It almost looks like Sam's standing on a box (which is usually reserved for shorter actresses when they're paired against a much taller male actor so the size discrepancy isn't as apparent.)-- looking straight ahead, Danielle is face-to-*chest* with Jack! It's either that, or Melnick's actress is standing on a lowered section of the set so she *seems* shorter than she actually *is*...
@@bradendalhouse7247 Yep, it was just announced yesterday. Dick Wolf finally got his wish to finish it off, after they cancelled it in 2010 after 20 years.
There was an episode, after this one and after the shooting at City Hall, where Melnick once again tried to use the courtroom to pursue her own political agenda. Near the end of the show, McCoy had it with her and more or less told her to stop using the courtroom to change policy or pursue her own political ideas. If you want to do that, quit your job and go into politics. Or something to that effect.
They did interact Stone was still on the show when Melnick first appeared. Pretty sure her first appearance was in the episode where Olivet was raped by her gynecologist in season 3 and she had one more episode alongside him in season 4.
Danielle's job is to defend him to the very best of her ability. Attorney client privilege is null and void when/if they conspire to comit crimes together.
@@StephenMcGann while Preuss was in jail awaiting trial, he was unable to communicate with anyone from the outside world other than his attorney. Yet the prosecutor who put Preuss' leader away for heinous crimes, he was murdered. It was believed Preuss' attorney had been communicating with someone from his organization and told him/her where to find this prosecutor.
I feel very sorry for Danielle Melnick. She is unknowingly manipulated by her client in the commission of a murder. That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in. The sad fact is is that Melnick is simply following the judicial rules of professional conduct which state that a lawyer should zealously represent their client within the bounds of the law. Another important fact about this episode is that character of Julian Preuss, the villain of this episode, is based on white supremacist Matthew F. Hale. Hale was the leader of the white supremacist/white nationalist hate group The World Church of the Creator who is currently serving time for conspiring to murder a federal judge. Just a little fact, in case anyone is interested.
"That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in." - she breached a court order, which are usually in place for good reasons. As she found out, even though she thought they were wrong, those reasons were indeed good, and breaching them led to someone being killed. That's on her.
As an ACTUAL Irish kid, I wouldn’t have burned her as McCoy did. In our culture as is used to be, family, friendship, and loyalty are thicker than water. I would have either figured a way around, or just flat-out looked the other way. It’s in my DNA.
I did not watch the rest of the episode, so I do not know the context. However, I was shocked when I was the D.A. listening in a private conversation between lawyer and the client. Shouldn't these be protected?
Serena got permission from the judge because her bosses were wondering how Danielle's client was communicating with the outside despite the special administrative measures imposed by the judge that presided over Julian Preuss' arraignment.
The defendant had murdered a famous defense attorney and stolen his address book. After he was arrested and remanded to jail, the judge put a special administrative order that he could not have any communication to with the outside world. Earlier in this episode, his attorney (Danielle) violated the order and passed a communication from him to a contact on the outside. The communication ordered the murder of a district attorney in Florida. Danielle didn't know she was doing this. Because they had suspicions that the defendant was using her to commit a crime, that broke the attorney client privilege.
Usually it would be a violation of attorney-client privilege, yes, but the exception is if the attorney is conspiring with the client. In this case melnick was doing something illegal so the privilege was waived.
Even in NYC, most people in that position carry a firearm. A person in that situation has two moral choices: Turn themselves in, or prepare the sidearm and a glass of Scotch.
Obviously they were necessary- did you watch this video? The SAM were circumvented, and an ADA in Florida was killed as a result. I would say they were indeed necessary.
If you watched the episode, Serena got permission from a judge to listen in on their conversation because Melnick became a co-conspirator in the death of a prosecuting attorney down south by being the defendant's conduit
Joseph you'll wanna take a remedial class in your armchair attorney school - as pointed out by the DA the privilege vanishes when used to conspire to commit a crime, successful or not (and it WAS successful in this case). Danielle violated court orders.
@@josephbalan8384 if you watched the entire episode, the district attorney was wondering how Danielle's client communicated with the outside the world despite special administrative measures that were imposed by the arraignment judge. The defendant was not to have any contact with anyone from the outside world. During his incarceration, a prosecutor in Florida was executed and Jack and Arthur were wondering why. That is why Arthur recommended that his staff wire up the conference room at Rikers when Danielle met with her client. They did all this with judicial approval none the less.
I have watched every episode--I’m old. Jack only beds his ADA’s. He’s a prosecuting attorney, she’s a defense lawyer. They’ve been in MANY shows opposite each other.
Knowing McCoy, probably. He seems to bed just about every woman he has a history with on the show, lol. Although if Abby hooked up with Jack, she was the one wearing the pants in that encounter.
At the end of the episode, Danielle is wheeled into an ambulance because one of her client's supporters shot her just as she was entering an elevator in her apartment building.
She makes an appearance in season 16 episode "America Inc." Also in season 17 episode "Good Faith." She also made her only appearance on Law & Order Criminal Intent's final episode "To The Boy WIth The Blue Cap."
If this were dragon ball z we could ask Shenron to revive the ADA and all the people that were killed throughout the entirety of the show. I would also ask that all of the people who McCoy stone and his assistants prosecuted to be released.
What exactly is a prosecutor doing secretly listening in on conversations between a defendant and his attorney? This is a total Constitutional violation.
Kris Kross - No, they don’t lie. If they do, they lose their license to practice. In addition, other attorneys learn that their word is no good, and it becomes impossible for them to do business. Defense attorneys are indispensable in our adversary system of justice, which is a bulwark against tyranny.
Wow, you are really one ignorant buffoon, aren't you? "Lawyers don't lie, because that would be WRONG!!" You hear about people this stupid, but to actually come across one is something special...
Kris Kross - Of course, that’s not what I said, but your reliance on dishonest distortion is clearly in character for you. The ignorance here lies in your failure to understand how our system of justice works. The buffoonery lies in your adherence to a tendentious caricature of that system and the professionals who work within it. They’re humans, and you can find instances of all human failings among them - as you can in any profession. But I’ve known many attorneys, and have no doubt that their general level of integrity well exceeds yours.
Yes, well done on finally cracking open that thesaurus your grandmother got you for Christmas, but pulling out a bunch of big words doesn't really win the day for you, sport. Unfortunately for you, it also doesn't obfuscate the fact that you actually did say exactly what I said you did. See, you didn't really have to qualify that you only *knew* lawyers, and weren't one yourself, because I was in absolutely no danger of thinking a lawyer would be so flat-out fucking stupid as to say--and I'm pulling a direct quote from your comment here-- "Lawyers don't lie", and then when called to task for it, say "I didn't say that" and try to call it "dishonest distortion". After this, you then decided to desperately spew out every word on your 2020 Word Of The Day calendar in the hopes that I would be so dazzled and confused by your brilliance as to lose sight of your furious backpedalling. Bad luck for you that you found yourself up against someone far above your intellectual weight class. But please, feel free to try again. 😉
It speaks volumes that your wittiest attempt at a comeback is an “accusation” that I used a thesaurus in writing my response. It certainly wasn’t original of you; it’s a favorite whine of the semiliterate. I use words whose meaning I know; I don’t need to look them up. But it’s amusing that you think of some of my vocabulary as abstruse. And you clearly have a hard time keeping straight what people have said. Your claim that I said, “Lawyers don’t lie, because that would be WRONG,” indicates, at best, hopeless confusion on your part. I said, very plainly, that lawyers don’t lie because it’s professional poison for them. There are also more than a few who don’t lie because (in addition) their moral compass compels them to honesty. In fact, that’s probably the majority of lawyers. And it’s not a hard call, to be blunt, to conclude that most lawyers are fundamentally more honest, trustworthy people than you are. But we don’t need to rely on such subjective judgments; the baseline reality is that the imperatives of self-preservation are sufficient to guarantee that lies in the legal profession are far less common that in most other areas of life. That, of course, doesn’t conform to the lurid fantasies about the legal system that you find more comforting than reality and rigorous thinking. But we could hardly expect a disciplined discussion of policy issues from you.
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I feel bad for Danielle- but she unwittingly got someone killed. Good God.
Do you know which season and episode was this?
@@MandA1900 season 13, episode 7 called “Open season”
She's my favorite defense attorney, I felt bad for her, she sometimes was a pita in the zealous representation of her clients.
I really miss the original Law & Order.
Jayne Mansfield it should have gotten an actual ending
@@IWantToMature85 I agree
Zechariah Cameron i wish they went ahead with the 10 episode mini series with jack and mike
So do I
@@KS-qr1ry which Mike? Logan or Cutter?
McCoy and Danielle had some of the greatest d.a./defense attorney chemistry on the show
My only problem is that they almost never let her win. Matter of fact, I can't remember a time where she actually won against McCoy.
@@blppt Well there was the one she got shot and almost murdered....Jack was out for blood when that happened.
Ben Stone leaving the show gave Melnick a great opportunity for a reset. Stone and Melnick (besides her first appearance) were so at odds with each other that it got really boring after a while.
I also liked Stone and Shambala Green (sp?).
@@zulfanbakri7640 It was this episode I believe where she ends up getting shot. Jack actually helps her avoid getting prosecuted, but she got shot anyway. She did recover though. As per her wiki page, she moved to Chicago and was a judge there (that happened on Chicago Justice).
Feldshuh was one of the finest actors to appear on Law and Order. She is quite versatile having appeared on stage In various one women shows.
I feel bad for Danielle, fuck she gets shot at the end of this episode too!
But man... this is why you follow the orders of the judge as you don't know what information you pass on will do to someone!
Damn, I was such a tremendous fan of this, the original series, from 2005-2009...Sam was my favorite. Met him twice-first in 2008 at a Refugees International dinner in D.C., and then again in 2009, after an amazing performance in a play he did at Long Wharf Theater in Connecticut called ‘Have You Seen Us?’
I found this episode so great yet so frustrating. Melnick knowingly violated a judge’s order just because she personally felt like it was wrong and was an accessory to murder. McCoy should have put his personal feelings aside and charged her. I didn’t even feel satisfied when she was shot, I felt like she still got away with murder and would do it again
She did. She was still allowed to practice as a lawyer and Avoided jail time.
Don't forget how in Season 3 she tried so hard to get that rapist doctor off the hook.
He did charge her.The girl who shot her was also an extremist
Honey! This is a TV show not real life!
No she is not supposed to believe him, she is supposed to defend him to the best of her ability and see he not not convicted unless the state proves it's case beyond a reasonable doubt.
And most defense attorney's work on the basis that their client is guilty.
I believe it. It’s probably the only way they keep there sanity
Lawyers want to know the truth so they can help their client the best, attorney client privileges guarentees they can't be subpoenaed to testify against you
I can’t remember where I heard this, but a defense attorney once said “it’s not my job to prove your innocence, it’s my job to get you off”
I saw Tovah on Broadway in a one woman play as Golda Meir, prime minister of Israel!
Zowie can she act!
I saw her in Dancing With Giants and met her after, she is the smallest woman on God's earth. So friendly and talented
You know it was a bit disturbing seeing Melnick so vulnerable. There's a couple female lawyers in the show who are hard as nails, and she's probably the toughest one I've seen.
It really shouldn't be surprising for her to suddenly drop the tough act, but I was a little taken back just watching her walls come crumbling down, and resort to a simple desperate plea.
I miss L&O when this was the extent to how personal it could get between two characters.
Jack McCoy got personal with a lot of the other female actors..have no idea why they found him attractive, but it was part of his sleazy character.
@@dianeblack6866 Jack McCoy was a lot of things, but he was never sleazy.
He was far from sleazy, they hinted that he slept with his ADAs but that's it
@@dianeblack6866
What? What show were u watching?
So this is what Deanna Monroe was up to before the apocalypse... (Walking Dead Reference)
Funny, the dude is on Fear the walking dead, I forget his name
@@juliag.5114 Which dude?
@@zachzabrowski9546her client is John Dorie from Fear the Walking Dead
I was shocked by this episode. Do you know how many times she was the lawyer? I expect to see dirty cops. I've even seen a lot of dirty lawyers. But a lawyer we've seen all the time? Crazy.
Melnick was one of my favorite defense attorneys, though I loved Elaine Stritch's Lanie Stieglitz as well.
even though she made one appearance, I liked the character Sandy Duncan played back in season 5
I just noticed this when I paused at 1:45, but is the actress playing Danielle Melnick just that short, or is Sam Waterston (Jack McCoy) just that *tall*? It almost looks like Sam's standing on a box (which is usually reserved for shorter actresses when they're paired against a much taller male actor so the size discrepancy isn't as apparent.)-- looking straight ahead, Danielle is face-to-*chest* with Jack!
It's either that, or Melnick's actress is standing on a lowered section of the set so she *seems* shorter than she actually *is*...
+DorianMichaelsIII 5'3"
He's 6'1, and she's 5'3. Normally, she'd be wearing heels, but it's evening, so the full 10" difference is manifest.
Tovah Feldshuh is the best!
Despite this melnick became a judge in chicago.
As Melnick or the same actor playing another character?
@@KasbashPlays yes.
They didn't call him "hang em high McCoy" for nothing.
"Open Season" from season 13
Remember when law and order was law and order and not the Life and Loves of Olivia Benson
Different series: that's SVU.
But luckily for you, they're bring back Sam and friends next year for a 21st season.
@@michaelleary9233 didn’t know that. Sounds exciting
@@bradendalhouse7247 Yep, it was just announced yesterday. Dick Wolf finally got his wish to finish it off, after they cancelled it in 2010 after 20 years.
There was an episode, after this one and after the shooting at City Hall, where Melnick once again tried to use the courtroom to pursue her own political agenda. Near the end of the show, McCoy had it with her and more or less told her to stop using the courtroom to change policy or pursue her own political ideas. If you want to do that, quit your job and go into politics. Or something to that effect.
She won Tony for her Broadway performance as Golda Meier!
That's the coward McCall who shot wild bill.
I would've loved to have seen a Melnick/Stone interaction.
They did interact Stone was still on the show when Melnick first appeared. Pretty sure her first appearance was in the episode where Olivet was raped by her gynecologist in season 3 and she had one more episode alongside him in season 4.
@@jumpupdown2556 IIRC Olivet was raped in S2 not S3.
@@nicholasmaude6906 It was season 3. Either way Stone was in that episode and they really clashed when Melnick represented the doctor.
@Dave Perez I don't know but I don't think so.
@Dave Perez uh yeah she did actually.
Damn..Damn..That jack Mcoy..dosent give a DAMN about noooo- body.!.. tough...he's a bad ass......Wth....!!...⏰🤔
That conversation is strictly confidential. In what world are they allowed to listen in ?
This issue has been discussed numerous times here. Did you read the other comments?
The attorney was conspiring with her client. Attorney client privilege goes down the toilet when they're committing crimes together.
In the world where a defendant attempts to use a lawyer to commit a crime, which was what happened here.
Never was able to stomach Danielle.
Danielle's job is to defend him to the very best of her ability. Attorney client privilege is null and void when/if they conspire to comit crimes together.
I thought bugging a lawyer and client meeting was illegal?
Not if you convince a judge they are engaged in a criminal enterprise
@@StephenMcGann while Preuss was in jail awaiting trial, he was unable to communicate with anyone from the outside world other than his attorney. Yet the prosecutor who put Preuss' leader away for heinous crimes, he was murdered. It was believed Preuss' attorney had been communicating with someone from his organization and told him/her where to find this prosecutor.
I feel very sorry for Danielle Melnick. She is unknowingly manipulated by her client in the commission of a murder. That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in. The sad fact is is that Melnick is simply following the judicial rules of professional conduct which state that a lawyer should zealously represent their client within the bounds of the law. Another important fact about this episode is that character of Julian Preuss, the villain of this episode, is based on white supremacist Matthew F. Hale. Hale was the leader of the white supremacist/white nationalist hate group The World Church of the Creator who is currently serving time for conspiring to murder a federal judge. Just a little fact, in case anyone is interested.
"That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in." - she breached a court order, which are usually in place for good reasons. As she found out, even though she thought they were wrong, those reasons were indeed good, and breaching them led to someone being killed. That's on her.
@@loremipsum3610 Yep. She put her personal feelings above a judge's order.
As an ACTUAL Irish kid, I wouldn’t have burned her as McCoy did. In our culture as is used to be, family, friendship, and loyalty are thicker than water. I would have either figured a way around, or just flat-out looked the other way. It’s in my DNA.
she survived long enough to run a community during the zombie apocalypse.
I did not watch the rest of the episode, so I do not know the context. However, I was shocked when I was the D.A. listening in a private conversation between lawyer and the client. Shouldn't these be protected?
Serena got permission from the judge because her bosses were wondering how Danielle's client was communicating with the outside despite the special administrative measures imposed by the judge that presided over Julian Preuss' arraignment.
The defendant had murdered a famous defense attorney and stolen his address book. After he was arrested and remanded to jail, the judge put a special administrative order that he could not have any communication to with the outside world.
Earlier in this episode, his attorney (Danielle) violated the order and passed a communication from him to a contact on the outside. The communication ordered the murder of a district attorney in Florida. Danielle didn't know she was doing this. Because they had suspicions that the defendant was using her to commit a crime, that broke the attorney client privilege.
its that one chick from the walking dead
dornravlin Good call!
Is listening to a conversation between a client and his lawyer legal?????
Usually it would be a violation of attorney-client privilege, yes, but the exception is if the attorney is conspiring with the client. In this case melnick was doing something illegal so the privilege was waived.
There are certain exceptions, such as if the communication is being used to commit a criminal act. Which is what happened in this episode.
He shouldn't have charged her,though, knowing it was her client, even if she had to be charged,if so, someone else should've.
She was the means by which someone was killed.
Even in NYC, most people in that position carry a firearm. A person in that situation has two moral choices: Turn themselves in, or prepare the sidearm and a glass of Scotch.
What position? Because it's almost impossible to get an owner's permit, much less a carry permit.
I could never stand melnick
+1
Were the Special Administrative Measures really necessary. What if the second judge had decided to vacate them completely.
Obviously they were necessary- did you watch this video? The SAM were circumvented, and an ADA in Florida was killed as a result. I would say they were indeed necessary.
@@yesterdayitrained maybe so but I didn’t see the motions papers and the written ruling
Second McCoy can gather the dragon balls to ressurect the ADA
@@yesterdayitrained third there were other options such as monitoring the defendants phone calls and messages.
What episode is this?
Regardless or not as a result of her actions, someone was killed in regards to the ADA. She is at fault.
It’s attorney client privilege! He violated it
If you watched the episode, Serena got permission from a judge to listen in on their conversation because Melnick became a co-conspirator in the death of a prosecuting attorney down south by being the defendant's conduit
Joseph you'll wanna take a remedial class in your armchair attorney school - as pointed out by the DA the privilege vanishes when used to conspire to commit a crime, successful or not (and it WAS successful in this case). Danielle violated court orders.
Privilege should apply no matter what, it’s not the DA’s business
@@josephbalan8384 only if the attorney and her client were not committing crimes.
@@josephbalan8384 if you watched the entire episode, the district attorney was wondering how Danielle's client communicated with the outside the world despite special administrative measures that were imposed by the arraignment judge. The defendant was not to have any contact with anyone from the outside world. During his incarceration, a prosecutor in Florida was executed and Jack and Arthur were wondering why. That is why Arthur recommended that his staff wire up the conference room at Rikers when Danielle met with her client. They did all this with judicial approval none the less.
3:07 Take care of yourself, Danielle.
Did they sleep together at one point?
Katie Hertfelder I know they were friends from law school or some such.
I have watched every episode--I’m old. Jack only beds his ADA’s. He’s a prosecuting attorney, she’s a defense lawyer. They’ve been in MANY shows opposite each other.
Knowing McCoy, probably. He seems to bed just about every woman he has a history with on the show, lol.
Although if Abby hooked up with Jack, she was the one wearing the pants in that encounter.
@@blppt I thought Jack & Abbie had incredible chemistry together
What happens to Melnick after this? I don't remember her ever being on the show after this.
At the end of the episode, Danielle is wheeled into an ambulance because one of her client's supporters shot her just as she was entering an elevator in her apartment building.
@@irishpogi Oh yeah I remember that... so we never hear what happens to her after that? I seem to remember her using a cane?
@@stancartmankenny In her next TV appearance in Season 14's "City Hall" episode.
@@stancartmankenny McCoy bails her out by getting Preuss to say he forced her into the messages
She makes an appearance in season 16 episode "America Inc." Also in season 17 episode "Good Faith." She also made her only appearance on Law & Order Criminal Intent's final episode "To The Boy WIth The Blue Cap."
I like Danielle Melnick,but this crazy guy(now would be a republican,the proud boys),used her
It's not hot in here. Why is he sweating?
If this were dragon ball z we could ask Shenron to revive the ADA and all the people that were killed throughout the entirety of the show. I would also ask that all of the people who McCoy stone and his assistants prosecuted to be released.
Ummm doesn't this break the law with them listening in on attorney/client privilege?
You gotta watch the entire episode to get the context
When a lawyer conspires with a client, it's not protected.
What exactly is a prosecutor doing secretly listening in on conversations between a defendant and his attorney? This is a total Constitutional violation.
Defense attorneys are worms. They lie for people they know are guilty. Always nice to see then get what's coming to them, even in a TV show.
Kris Kross - No, they don’t lie. If they do, they lose their license to practice. In addition, other attorneys learn that their word is no good, and it becomes impossible for them to do business. Defense attorneys are indispensable in our adversary system of justice, which is a bulwark against tyranny.
Wow, you are really one ignorant buffoon, aren't you? "Lawyers don't lie, because that would be WRONG!!"
You hear about people this stupid, but to actually come across one is something special...
Kris Kross - Of course, that’s not what I said, but your reliance on dishonest distortion is clearly in character for you.
The ignorance here lies in your failure to understand how our system of justice works. The buffoonery lies in your adherence to a tendentious caricature of that system and the professionals who work within it. They’re humans, and you can find instances of all human failings among them - as you can in any profession. But I’ve known many attorneys, and have no doubt that their general level of integrity well exceeds yours.
Yes, well done on finally cracking open that thesaurus your grandmother got you for Christmas, but pulling out a bunch of big words doesn't really win the day for you, sport.
Unfortunately for you, it also doesn't obfuscate the fact that you actually did say exactly what I said you did. See, you didn't really have to qualify that you only *knew* lawyers, and weren't one yourself, because I was in absolutely no danger of thinking a lawyer would be so flat-out fucking stupid as to say--and I'm pulling a direct quote from your comment here-- "Lawyers don't lie", and then when called to task for it, say "I didn't say that" and try to call it "dishonest distortion".
After this, you then decided to desperately spew out every word on your 2020 Word Of The Day calendar in the hopes that I would be so dazzled and confused by your brilliance as to lose sight of your furious backpedalling. Bad luck for you that you found yourself up against someone far above your intellectual weight class. But please, feel free to try again. 😉
It speaks volumes that your wittiest attempt at a comeback is an “accusation” that I used a thesaurus in writing my response. It certainly wasn’t original of you; it’s a favorite whine of the semiliterate. I use words whose meaning I know; I don’t need to look them up. But it’s amusing that you think of some of my vocabulary as abstruse.
And you clearly have a hard time keeping straight what people have said. Your claim that I said, “Lawyers don’t lie, because that would be WRONG,” indicates, at best, hopeless confusion on your part. I said, very plainly, that lawyers don’t lie because it’s professional poison for them. There are also more than a few who don’t lie because (in addition) their moral compass compels them to honesty. In fact, that’s probably the majority of lawyers. And it’s not a hard call, to be blunt, to conclude that most lawyers are fundamentally more honest, trustworthy people than you are.
But we don’t need to rely on such subjective judgments; the baseline reality is that the imperatives of self-preservation are sufficient to guarantee that lies in the legal profession are far less common that in most other areas of life. That, of course, doesn’t conform to the lurid fantasies about the legal system that you find more comforting than reality and rigorous thinking. But we could hardly expect a disciplined discussion of policy issues from you.
Jesus, Elisabeth Rohm was terrible. That's some high school drama club acting.
of all the ADA's, I preferred Abby Carmichael!
@@irishpogi Season 10 had such a great cast of characters. Lennie, Ed, Anita, Jack, Abby, and Adam.
@@niccolovanible1001 I agree
But she was hot! That balanced it out. Lol
She truly was terrible. The part written for her didn't make her look any better but she definitely didn't fit in the show