Great review. The biggest advantage is the ergonomics compared to the handheld ones. This is a prime example of where a cordless power tool should be replacing a hand tool. Thumbs up.
Don't get me wrong makita is amazing but I have to admit there tools have been out a lot longer then many Milwaukee tools. That gives Milwaukee a chance to make something better. For example the makita router vs the Milwaukee router. I went with the Milwaukee because I felt they improved micro adjustment
I've had the Makita one for a few months now, repaired it twice already. Wish I'd got this one but the temptation of having the batteries is too great. I do pull 500 rivets a week though so I'd love to see a real world stress test of them both.
my milwaukke riveter has lost its stroke after 6 weeks of use. Any ideas of how i can get it working properly again? I have already replaced the jaws and cleaned and retightened everything.
Yeah I’m Mil-Kita now, since I got the Milwaukee framing nailer... I have an adapter from AliExpress on the way so I can use my Milwaukee batteries on all my Makita tools
Thank you for the review. I have Makita 18v gear, but for the cost including battery and charger am looking at this set up. I might not use a riveter often, but doing 40-50 on a screen door can start to hurt the hands. I may not re-coop the cost, but if it saves an injury then it is worth it.
Kevin, I think you’ll find that if you’re doing 50 on a door quite often, you’ll save plenty of time and energy to make it worth your while. It also does a lot of rivets on a single charge so you wouldn’t have to charge it after every job.
I have pulled 6mm ally rivets with this tool. I sadly bought the Milwaukee rivet gun over makita due to price reasons as well. But in saying the i have a bunch of M12 gear.
It must be some sort of marketing thing the price of the Makita, yet Ive read the Us Air Force uses Makita 14v Production tools so maybe its a tool for them, and the price reflects the use???
The price of the Makita is inline with industry standard riveting tools. Milwaukee just happens to be incredibly cheap but at the same time it doesn't compare to something that costs £500+
When I saw the price for the Metabo pop riveter, I was shocked. Then I did the research and found out it was (at a minimum) half the price of the competition. The M12 came out shortly thereafter. Makita’s industrial tools are sold at industrial prices, so I get it, but I was surprised to find them somewhat marketing it alongside their mainstream lxt tools on their website. Normally the industrial line is delineated as a separate entity altogether.
@@robertrada4783 Y'a I have seen some of there new cordless ratchets that look as if they may be released to the trade world, outside of industry... makita.com.au/industrial/category/torque-sensitive
around here in Brazil, Milwaukee is too much expensive (almost 50% more compared with teal and yellow), but as you mentioned, the 12v reds, some models are popping here with nice prices (slightly less for old models, compared with some other brands in 12v)
Traitor! Lolol I don't do enough riveting for this to make sense for me BUT --I think confessions are in order here. I bought a (wait for it) Ryobi 18v glue gun! Ohhhhh, the horror! Here's the deal though --it works awesome! Best glue gun I've ever used corded or not. Here's the best part (wait for it again lol), I use Makita batteries with it!!! I never knew these existed but for like $25 usd I found an adapter that let's me use one of my millions of 18v Makita bats! Cheers!
Heh was also considering getting that thing. It is certainly very tempting. However when reading the reviews a recurring theme was well, the waiting time for it to get up to temp, plus the relatively high discharge rate keeping the nozzle warm. I suppose its quite a serviceable tool despite those drawbacks. However I would expect for longer jobs it would be a nicer experience if you happen to have more than 1 ryobi battery. So that you can hotswap them and keep it continuusly going all the time. Rather than have it cool down, heatup, wait, cooldown again between dabs. I think I still really want this tool but am happy to wait for additional reason(s) to invested into ryobi platform.
@@dreamcat4 What battery platform do you use now? Also, I agree it takes a couple of minute to heat up but once it does it's amazing and stays hot for a long, long, time. Once up to temp it fires through the sticks but I'm not doing production/repetitive work or super long runs so it kinda' depends on the application I would imagine. All I can say is that it beats the hell out of the glue gun I had and it doesn't leak like the old one did either.
i know i said i wouldn't watch a milwaukee review but eh, how can i resist a kiwi with a power tool at 4:30 in the morning? also i wonder how good the jaws are and if they will last... (looking at you Stanley)
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL oh bugger.. hopefully they are easy enough to change out and don't cost much.. perhaps they will revise them or someone will make an aftermarket set of jaws for them
Pop rivets are unfortunately a bit like the fast food of the fastener world. If you really must and have no other option then sure. But they can also become incredibly tempting to use more broadly, because they as so convenient. At the expense of being a single use, and having to be drilled out afterwards if you ever need to remove. Then whatever time you save in the creation is not gotten back for the removal. Depending which specific materials you are joining they can tear out, leaving a larger hole behind. I really dont have anything bad to say against other types of rivets for other scenarios. Which often can be a great solution for other situations. Just sayin because before you know it, you can create a whole lot of extra work for yourself without realizing. Anything with a thread are my preffered go to. Preferably non self tapping.Impacts make it easy. I would also say a better philosophy is to design things that can be constructed with access fro both sides. That often means more careful thinking and / or not trying to hide something like a fastening but instead make it a desirable and integral feature. Something that is worthy of being celebrated for what it brings.
I have only used the makita one once at a show over a year ago so hard to compare. They both work fine, but I think longevity will be the biggest difference.
Tools & Stuff Love your videos man first thing i did when inwoke up this morning keep it up, not all people have patience to do these sort of stuff only selected ones
Milwaukee were kind enough to send me one of these just after they were released. It's a nice unit but it's slow. It's a good unit to carry around in the bag as it's small and relatively light but it doesn't replace my Gesipa Accubird.
Also, if you want to remove the tips without using the spanner and without removing the nose piece, pull and hold the trigger, remove and replace the tip, release the trigger. This of course only works as long as you only do them up hand tight.
Bought a full set of m12 3 or 4 years ago (8 tools, some with batteries some as body only). Half of the 8 batteries have failed so far. Been using Makita 18v for 10+ years and have never had a battery fail. Will Never buy a Milwaukee tool again,
I think you are the nightmare case of bad battery luck. What tools do you use them in most? Which batteries failed? Ah? XC or compact? Is there any common failure link? I have over 30 M12 batteries, dating back to 2015. Zero failures. Same with my M18s and Makitas. I've been pleasantly surprised with both brands longevity. Where on this Earth are you? Wondering if different global regions have different cell suppliers or manufacturing facilities.
@@mikemorgan5015 I'm UK based in the Midlands. My makitas are used daily on site and batteries regularily get charged 3 or 4 times in a day when used on high power items like recip saws. I bought the M12's as a backup set for my personal use when pottering about in the warehouse. They were used so lightly that i'd go months between charging. I either have the worst luck ever or the cells really hate being sat on full charge for long periods. I honestly don't think a single one of the batteries have had a "hard use" in the entire time i've owned them. The M12 tools look like they just came out the box, hardly a mark on them which speaks to how little trigger time they have had on them. Probably going to sell the lot, I know it's likely bad luck but it's left a real bad taste in my mouth.
@@Adam_Lynn Apparently batteries should be stored at 75 or 80 % charge. Not on a full charge. I believe I read this in one of the many instruction books...
With my respect to all tool guys. One company whether Milwaukee or DeWalt or Makita or any other tool brand, does not make the best tool all the time ..... Example In my opinion the Porter Cable and the DeWalt have the fastest blade change on their oscillating tool but seeing that I do not have any of their batteries, I bought another brand even if it is not the best... Think a little you do not need 3 or 4 different battery platforms! Just the mere fact that it is cordless, that is the true benefit... No need to find a plug or extension if you are in the field...I can go on and on citing more examples but I believe you guys are smart enough to understand the reasoning...
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Great review. The biggest advantage is the ergonomics compared to the handheld ones.
This is a prime example of where a cordless power tool should be replacing a hand tool.
Thumbs up.
So nice to use compared to the old way.
Absolute minta riveters. Work got us 4 of them for a massive job (20,000 rivets) and they worked like a charm
I am astonished at how often I use this rivet gun. “Aww shit, I had better get the rivet gun” will be on my tombstone .
Don't get me wrong makita is amazing but I have to admit there tools have been out a lot longer then many Milwaukee tools. That gives Milwaukee a chance to make something better. For example the makita router vs the Milwaukee router. I went with the Milwaukee because I felt they improved micro adjustment
So THATS what I need a riveter for. Thanks!
Never quite knew their use case.
I've had the Makita one for a few months now, repaired it twice already. Wish I'd got this one but the temptation of having the batteries is too great. I do pull 500 rivets a week though so I'd love to see a real world stress test of them both.
What has gone wrong with it? Is it the jaws?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Yeah shanks keep getting jammed.
my milwaukke riveter has lost its stroke after 6 weeks of use. Any ideas of how i can get it working properly again? I have already replaced the jaws and cleaned and retightened everything.
Yeah I’m Mil-Kita now, since I got the Milwaukee framing nailer... I have an adapter from AliExpress on the way so I can use my Milwaukee batteries on all my Makita tools
Thank you for the review.
I have Makita 18v gear, but for the cost including battery and charger am looking at this set up.
I might not use a riveter often, but doing 40-50 on a screen door can start to hurt the hands. I may not re-coop the cost, but if it saves an injury then it is worth it.
Same situation for me really. I paid 300 for the tool, charger and one battery. Makita was 1200 bare tool!
Kevin, I think you’ll find that if you’re doing 50 on a door quite often, you’ll save plenty of time and energy to make it worth your while. It also does a lot of rivets on a single charge so you wouldn’t have to charge it after every job.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I have the makita 6.4 and it’s a weapon, only purchased it because I am so heavily invested in makita
Question good Sir, do you have any opinions on the Hikoki Multivolt stuff?
I have pulled 6mm ally rivets with this tool.
I sadly bought the Milwaukee rivet gun over makita due to price reasons as well. But in saying the i have a bunch of M12 gear.
Can you review enegitech please? You can use makita batteries with their gun.
Yupp Makita mack 1 and it £600 in the UK gess i get a Milwaukee then!
can it pull #9 coppper rivet for lether boots?
It must be some sort of marketing thing the price of the Makita, yet Ive read the Us Air Force uses Makita 14v Production tools so maybe its a tool for them, and the price reflects the use???
The price of the Makita is inline with industry standard riveting tools. Milwaukee just happens to be incredibly cheap but at the same time it doesn't compare to something that costs £500+
When I saw the price for the Metabo pop riveter, I was shocked. Then I did the research and found out it was (at a minimum) half the price of the competition. The M12 came out shortly thereafter. Makita’s industrial tools are sold at industrial prices, so I get it, but I was surprised to find them somewhat marketing it alongside their mainstream lxt tools on their website. Normally the industrial line is delineated as a separate entity altogether.
@@robertrada4783 Y'a I have seen some of there new cordless ratchets that look as if they may be released to the trade world, outside of industry... makita.com.au/industrial/category/torque-sensitive
Now that your in the m12 line, get some of those die grinders.
Where did you find it for that price?
around here in Brazil, Milwaukee is too much expensive (almost 50% more compared with teal and yellow), but as you mentioned, the 12v reds, some models are popping here with nice prices (slightly less for old models, compared with some other brands in 12v)
Same here.
Same here in u.s. Milwaukee is more expensive than teal and yellow. But not triple the amount like he said for that rivet tool
Look up the price of the makita rivet gun
Traitor! Lolol I don't do enough riveting for this to make sense for me BUT --I think confessions are in order here. I bought a (wait for it) Ryobi 18v glue gun! Ohhhhh, the horror! Here's the deal though --it works awesome! Best glue gun I've ever used corded or not. Here's the best part (wait for it again lol), I use Makita batteries with it!!! I never knew these existed but for like $25 usd I found an adapter that let's me use one of my millions of 18v Makita bats! Cheers!
Heh was also considering getting that thing. It is certainly very tempting. However when reading the reviews a recurring theme was well, the waiting time for it to get up to temp, plus the relatively high discharge rate keeping the nozzle warm. I suppose its quite a serviceable tool despite those drawbacks. However I would expect for longer jobs it would be a nicer experience if you happen to have more than 1 ryobi battery. So that you can hotswap them and keep it continuusly going all the time. Rather than have it cool down, heatup, wait, cooldown again between dabs. I think I still really want this tool but am happy to wait for additional reason(s) to invested into ryobi platform.
@@dreamcat4 What battery platform do you use now? Also, I agree it takes a couple of minute to heat up but once it does it's amazing and stays hot for a long, long, time. Once up to temp it fires through the sticks but I'm not doing production/repetitive work or super long runs so it kinda' depends on the application I would imagine. All I can say is that it beats the hell out of the glue gun I had and it doesn't leak like the old one did either.
If I was still in the trade and not at home with kids I would get one of these
i know i said i wouldn't watch a milwaukee review but eh, how can i resist a kiwi with a power tool at 4:30 in the morning? also i wonder how good the jaws are and if they will last... (looking at you Stanley)
Since purchasing I have seen a few negative reports on the jaws.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL oh bugger.. hopefully they are easy enough to change out and don't cost much.. perhaps they will revise them or someone will make an aftermarket set of jaws for them
You can get extended jaws also. There is a link in the description. So I guess the standard ones are easily available.
What in tarnation is aloominium? I'm waiting for the M-18 version.
Pop rivets are unfortunately a bit like the fast food of the fastener world. If you really must and have no other option then sure. But they can also become incredibly tempting to use more broadly, because they as so convenient. At the expense of being a single use, and having to be drilled out afterwards if you ever need to remove. Then whatever time you save in the creation is not gotten back for the removal. Depending which specific materials you are joining they can tear out, leaving a larger hole behind. I really dont have anything bad to say against other types of rivets for other scenarios. Which often can be a great solution for other situations. Just sayin because before you know it, you can create a whole lot of extra work for yourself without realizing. Anything with a thread are my preffered go to. Preferably non self tapping.Impacts make it easy. I would also say a better philosophy is to design things that can be constructed with access fro both sides. That often means more careful thinking and / or not trying to hide something like a fastening but instead make it a desirable and integral feature. Something that is worthy of being celebrated for what it brings.
Which ones better this one or the makitas rivet gun
I have only used the makita one once at a show over a year ago so hard to compare. They both work fine, but I think longevity will be the biggest difference.
Tools & Stuff Love your videos man first thing i did when inwoke up this morning keep it up, not all people have patience to do these sort of stuff only selected ones
Cheers man.
Milwaukee were kind enough to send me one of these just after they were released. It's a nice unit but it's slow. It's a good unit to carry around in the bag as it's small and relatively light but it doesn't replace my Gesipa Accubird.
Also, if you want to remove the tips without using the spanner and without removing the nose piece, pull and hold the trigger, remove and replace the tip, release the trigger. This of course only works as long as you only do them up hand tight.
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Bought a full set of m12 3 or 4 years ago (8 tools, some with batteries some as body only). Half of the 8 batteries have failed so far. Been using Makita 18v for 10+ years and have never had a battery fail. Will Never buy a Milwaukee tool again,
I've had my own Makita 18v tools for 3 or 4 years now. 2 out of 14 5Ah batteries have failed...
I think you are the nightmare case of bad battery luck. What tools do you use them in most? Which batteries failed? Ah? XC or compact? Is there any common failure link? I have over 30 M12 batteries, dating back to 2015. Zero failures. Same with my M18s and Makitas. I've been pleasantly surprised with both brands longevity. Where on this Earth are you? Wondering if different global regions have different cell suppliers or manufacturing facilities.
@@mikemorgan5015 I'm UK based in the Midlands. My makitas are used daily on site and batteries regularily get charged 3 or 4 times in a day when used on high power items like recip saws. I bought the M12's as a backup set for my personal use when pottering about in the warehouse. They were used so lightly that i'd go months between charging. I either have the worst luck ever or the cells really hate being sat on full charge for long periods. I honestly don't think a single one of the batteries have had a "hard use" in the entire time i've owned them. The M12 tools look like they just came out the box, hardly a mark on them which speaks to how little trigger time they have had on them. Probably going to sell the lot, I know it's likely bad luck but it's left a real bad taste in my mouth.
Extra info after my last reply. Have had 3 x 2ah die 1 x 4ah and 1 x 6ah.
@@Adam_Lynn Apparently batteries should be stored at 75 or 80 % charge. Not on a full charge. I believe I read this in one of the many instruction books...
With my respect to all tool guys. One company whether Milwaukee or DeWalt or Makita or any other tool brand, does not make the best tool all the time ..... Example In my opinion the Porter Cable and the DeWalt have the fastest blade change on their oscillating tool but seeing that I do not have any of their batteries, I bought another brand even if it is not the best... Think a little you do not need 3 or 4 different battery platforms! Just the mere fact that it is cordless, that is the true benefit... No need to find a plug or extension if you are in the field...I can go on and on citing more examples but I believe you guys are smart enough to understand the reasoning...