Why Shigetora Has The BEST Tapping in osu!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- This video was made to take a look at my favorite player's tapping style: shigetora's! It's mostly just for entertainment but if you enjoyed please subscribe and drop your video suggestions in the comments below!
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► Timestamps ◄
0:00 Intro
0:21 Why does this matter?
0:58 The pinky finger
1:44 Role of thumb
2:49 Personal experience
3:24 Conclusion
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I know this one was a bit shorter but I did try to make it well edited. 
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I believe merami has mentioned before or someone mentioned it about his thumb placement.
The reason behind merami's thumb placement is actually for stability for the keyboard and hand, by having the thumb lying down like that, the hand is more stationary and the keypad will not move around which will happen especially when doing high bpm streams. (this is actually the reason why that popular "technique" video is called "technique" in the first place)
Well, my opinion on optimal tapping would be a well-warmed up hand ready for strain for muscle growth. A well-warmed up hand would help make your hand relaxed (lighter) when you stream with a well-warmed up hand your hand will feel more light and you would feel like infinite stamina at first. Obviously, I'm not stating this will help everyone, but I am certainly it will help for perhaps a small amount of players. And also, this will not help with your actual technique, its just warming up your hand by stretching, technique will only be fixed upon hours of practice. I'd funnily enough recommend Long Stream Practice Maps. Not because they are genuinely the way to improve stamina (as I have not improved my stamina a lot despites months of continual practice/routine) but it has certainly made my technique optimal for my personal preference.
To really bring out the stamina in you, work on that technique. A good sign for good technique is non-galloping tired slowed down tapping when you run out of stamina. I trust that there is no perfect formula for tapping stamina and posture or hand position as everyone is different. BTMC basically wiggles his whole arm, Shige with a pinky strain thingy and for me a wide hand that has my thumb and pinky like two anchor points (I'm in no position to compare to pros). Everyone is different, and I think by consistently straining on different days, perhaps filming yourself on good days, you can slowly notice what is suitable for you and what makes you feel the most comfy and "infinite stamina".
Good luck! Hope you have a good time improving! Stamina and speed is difficult but everyone can achieve at least something no matter how bad you are. Have a good day.
Mathi's hand goes brrrrrrrr
Good video ! This explained very well the playstyle and its constraints.
I personally played for a year to improve my streaming ability and it was definitely detrimental to my overall gameplay.
Prior to that I overlook maps that contained even a single longstream and wanted to widen my skillset, I became so desperate that I totally changed playstyle. I felt short term improvement on the streams and on the singeltapping at the beginning but I rapidly stopped improving.
The stability holding your index gives is insane, it is extremely good for tapping control but for me it completely hindered me from getting speed despite trying different variations. During this time I became so desperate on finally getting good at streams that I gave up on training my aim because I was improving too fast on this skillset (??who complains improving too fast) and it was definitely a bad idea as I stopped playing my very best skillset and eventually stopped liking playing. I even lost mind / hand connection and decreased my reading skill. And yes I can confirm doubles are A PAIN with this playstyle, and yet cookie is freakily good at hitting them. Also this playstyle doesn't allow you to include wrist movement into your streaming technique (as mrekk and whitecat do) so if your technique highly relies on it I recommend not switching at all.
The moral of the story : Stick to a playstyle that suits you best on the long term, short term improvement can build false expectations on whether or the not the playstyle is gonna help you or not. Don't focus too much on improvement, from my experience fun is what makes you come back to the game everyday for years and eventually become better.
Currently :
My stream didn't improve since, I changed to a totally different style : ring and index full alternate, I only play slow streams, finger control maps (sputnik / breathe / ...). I play very less than before but every time I launch the game it's really enjoyable. Totally stopped my grind for skill or ranks, even stopped looking at my combo / misses, never felt less frustrated about the game and that's very pleasant. Please enjoy game
Wow, that's like, longer than my video script)
The thing that stands out the most is about changing playstyle. When I was around rank 500,000 I would keep changing my grip and this would really impact how bad my aim was. As a result I ended up not improving on the skillset which means that I played a lot less DT than all the other six digits out there and that caused me to have a lot worse aim. I became good at finger control since I kept my style consistent and always liked those maps but aim is one of the things that always held me back. I think it's because I wanted to be different from everyone so I started using vaxei's grip cookiezi's grip whitecat's grip anybody's grip that was not my own and that made my aim really inconsistent so about a few months ago I went back to my regular grip and started dragging again and I instantly became way better aim and that's why I don't really switch my playstyle anymore. Ty for the comment
i aim to play any style, aim, pen grip, mouse grip, index+middle tapping, idex+ ring tapping. this will help my tapping area greatly. kewl vid
been using the pinky style for more than almost 2 years now and i must say it definitely help me improve faster than i used to. either that or just a placebo effect. either way, i liked it. haven't mastered it yet though. can't figure out his thumb placement until now even
Placebo or not, if you feel like you're improving that's a good sign)
The thumb placement is pretty simple, thumb on touch point of index finger with the pinky finger curled up on streams. The only thing that is complicated is being able to stream properly or tapping on that middle finger while keeping the thumb against the index because you almost can’t pull the finger down. Before watching any Shigetora videos I naturally would single tap in the same manner, my thumb pressed against my index because I lacked the speed in my index at the time. It also made it easier for me to acc while singetapping as I was able to follow the beat better for whatever reason. However, when it switched to doubles, triples, or streams (anything not single tap) I would have to pull my thumb away from my index to be able to stream. Fast forward a few years and many breaks, I no longer put my index finger to my thumb and I can single tap faster than ever but choose to alternate if it’s just too quick. I single tap more like lifeline in that if I want to go fast I lift my palm from the table and bounce my wrist. Shige’s style of tapping isn’t the best style, nor is it going to make you better. This the reason only a handful of players in the top 10 actually yes it. It’s more so a preference, if you enjoy it, use it. If you don’t, find another style to use. That’s what I did and I benefited greatly. This goes for any style of course, it’s all a preference.
@YSoAggressive i think hakurei reimu/ reimu desu uses that technique he release his thumb on streams but singletap using thumb and index
thumb pressed up against his index finger curving inwards
yet another style of play that I just accidentally/unintentionally made myself accustomed to when I started playing (except the thumb thing thats weird). Did the same thing with my grip too, I just always found the vaxei type grip comfortable whereas a lot of people tend to not like it
great content your channel is incredibly underrated
Tysm! Means a lot)
I used this style for 2 years but it made my stamina on streams really bad so I swapped to a free index-ring which greatly improved my stamina. UR suffered by about 10% but I think it's a good tradeoff.
Good video! Hope this will blow up even more
Thank you so much, I've been on some your streams
@@ginneko3394 I know lol I remember you
@@ginneko3394 but fr tho keep making videos like this
@@fall-. tyty I will)
My attempt at trying this with ring index surprisingly works kinda well (binds are s & c because a & d is wack). Finger control is nonexistent but speed gains are huge
good video and btw idke still plays on tablet, that one day he started streaming was the only day he played mouse
Thx guess we gotta take his opinion out of the trash)))
Underrated
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Nice video, man! I remember trying to relearn the game for this tapping style, because I was tapping like the keyboards mother was my worst enemy. Maybe I'll start doing that again.
I'll try this since I pretty much lost all my singletap skills for unknown reasons
Relatable, I just can't tap on some days
try this style many year ago its hurt my index finger to turn into a alternate tapping style to release tapping pressure
The Best player
shige is double jointed
btw
so if you can’t figure out the thumb placement don’t blame yourself if it doesn’t feel comfortable.
i have never heard of this guy shige
Folding pinky feels u comfortable, I might try the thumb rest instead. Any recommends?
I've always been amazed by his technique. This tapping seems so smooth, like it's natural. I have a theory that we need to replicate animals to tap naturally
glass beach is a dope ass band. now for the clicking. i am shigetora simp since 2017 and im just gonna praise it without thinking much, but i am the type of people who switch their playing style for the hour ( depends on how i feel if my hand is cold or not etc.). as for the analysis it was great stuff and imo it was right. but i have to mention that none of the facts are biologically confirmed rather than just assumes (although mine are the same) all in all great vid as always 8.5/10 information and 9.5/10 quality for a growing youtuber. keep the grind and be safe!
Thank you! I really love when people leave feedback so I know how to improve my videos in the future))
Also yes glass beach is so good I listen to them all the time lol
@@ginneko3394 try out their older things like casio dad
i tap a lot like shige, except 1 thing, i have my thumb completely tucked under my palm, its great and i only recently started tapping like this, and my stamina on streams has gotten much better.
I had a dream where i was shige and was invited to a limousine by linus tech tips to go to a store
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I’m probably never going to use this tapping style since I play ring and index full alt. Even when I played middle and index I subconsciously played with full alt so it would be very hard to get used to. But overall very good video and explained it nicely.
edit: new video idea: Why Relax Mod has the BEST tapping in osu!
WHY DID I THINK THIS WASW DIGITALHYPNO
Shige tapping style for me helps with tech and control
I have the same tapping style except that my thumb push my index to the left instead of pushing it up.
im suprised when i tried it, it was comfortable for me
eyvallah aga
cookizi
I remember trying to emulate Cookiezi's tapping style in earlier years, but it always made my hand hurt. This tapping style isn't for everyone.
when I stream my thumb is moving all over the place and I don't think I offload strain onto anything, but that doesn't seem to stunt my stamina? Just an weird thought
Yeah, I don't think offloading is necessary, my thumb usually points up and away from my hand while playing.
you're in turkey? if you are enjoy it :D
Idk my index finger always hurts so much with this style cause usually im using middle finger and thumb lmao
the background song in conclusion part?
Glass beach - bedroom community
i tried shiges tapping style and i notice a increase in accuracy but i am able to stream faster with meramis method
Nice, for me this style improves my singletap accuracy but is worse for almost everything else :v
what is doubles and triples im new to OSU so idk what that is
You should go over mathi's tapping style!
Thanks for the idea, I might do it
What do we need to get it first before playing Osu.
A Table
that's a pretty smart idea
I use shige tapping when started playing, like, it's automatic of my hand
great video. im from turkey btw
Nice to see someone else from turkey)
türkiyeden birisinin hic bukadar iyi ingilizce konusacagini düsünmezdim
my style is: fuck tapping style's, just go tap fast
i was the 727th like :/
im now gonna jump into an active volcano
Sonunda türkiyede yaşayan bir osu oyuncusu
and then there's the lifeline method
One finger stream gaming
I know I'm a bit late for the video but personally I use a quite weird variant of Shige's tapping style ig.
I basically keep everything original, except I used ring - index instead of middle - index.
I was pretty comfortable with the original one tho, but also noticed that it hold my speed back for a bit, then this ring - index variant comes up as a solution to boost my speed up as well as maintaining the controllability.
(Sorry for any grammar problems existed, my English is just so rusty lmao)
1:56 the what easy method?
i don't mind this is a short video. It's good for me :)
(I hate sitting through a 10 min + video waiting for it to get to the point)
Fax
The shigetora tapping style is very special, because it requires a flexible movement between the index finger and thumb when put together, to be honest I can only do it with my right hand, I think doing it with my left hand is very difficult, it takes practice to get used to it
Yeah, it's a very unique style, not something you'd do every day.
no, this is just preference it doesnt matter how you tap what matter is how much time you play your settings. you can play any style but if dont especialize the way how you u play it wont improve. else all people would play the same settings. the same is for area and stuff
Two problems
One - yes I'm aware that switching to another tapping style won't make you better at the game, and most people will take so long to learn this that it just isn't worth the time. The thing is, that wasn't the point of the video, I was trying to show how optimised shige's tapping is. I believe it is the best theoretical style that gives you the highest skill ceiling. And yes, there are better and worse tapping styles and areas. Sure, you could technically play on anything, but imagine buying a 3 meter by 4 meter tablet and playing full area. That's just ridiculous. On the other hand, if your area is so small that you can't play anything above cs3, then obviously its no good. Just like some tapping styles give you rsi, some (like this one) allow you to tap faster and more consistently.
Two - you made a point that you need to specialise your playstyle to yourself. I agree, but I also think it could have been worded better, you're basically saying "if you play like a top player, you're playing wrong.", which is obviously not true. My grip is the same as rafis, but that doesn't mean I'm copying him.
Thanks for commenting anyway)
@@ginneko3394 i wasnt meaning that playing pro player settings is wrong but find your own style is better cuz you know whats is good for you, player that you analyze played his tap style his whole career but he always change his area and grip style making his lose the ability that he had years ago, every time he change something hes backing to the zero. and i think his tapstyle isnt the "best and optizable tap style" let be hosnet is really unconfortable, but when we see his playing his style we can see the experience and mastery of a decade. that the reason why i said thats preference cuz all people will need different conditions to set some confortable setting and this will be defined by the time of playing you settings (and this settings can be pro player settings, why not?)
good luck in turkey
I can’t do this technique because when I curl my pinky finger my ring finger curls too, idk why but it does.
I think it's supposed to be like that...
Cookiezi played this style for yeaaaars remember
Legendary years
idke's clip shows off shige's grip as if the thumb is underneath index, which im pretty sure it isnt. at least for me i press against my index from the side.
i do use the tapping style mostly and i think its pretty good, helps with streams and bursts. i play tapx so finger control isnt so much of an issue to me as one hand is purely singletapping.
sometimes i switch from this to a more natural style (flat hand, outwards thumb etc) and its better sometimes but also worse other times. completely random idk
also shige's tapping style will absolutely destroy your keycaps LOL
I didn't even think about tapx with this, that's kinda op haha)
The point of the idke clip was to show how connecting index and thumb would cause less vertical movement when streaming, and there are many ways to achieve this (thumb against index, to the side, under it etc) ty for the comment)
@@ginneko3394 yeah true, i've seen the clip before so the clip in its own context shows it off like i said :p
@@Levesile ye
nice video
Thanks👍
What's the map at 2:22
Chaoz Fantasy
I'm just asking because I'm curious. You're not Turkish, are you? Because you speak English very well.
Thanks haha, I'm from belarus, not turkey, we had to move because of the war.
@@ginneko3394 Oh, I understand.
@@ginneko3394 welcome brother
I use index & ring to tap since it’s the most natural for me but I’ve been trying to tap with index middle and my speed and stamina are way worse
I think the main reason he does the pinky thing is the same reason as holding the index, it limits the movement of the middle finger
3:30 skin???
Search up shigetora skins on github, it's 06 Hamachi I believe.
Honestly in my opinion it's better to just build your own style,
whatever works for you and you can learn what works and what doesn't as you go
as long as you not hurting your hands of course
Of course, this is all theoretical and you're way better off playing however feels natural, which is why I said in the video that I wouldn't be switching to it.
some people like to theorize and experiment in alot of games. you could just dismiss it as you’re thinking about it too much, its not the deep. but people working on finding optimal ways of doing stuff is fascinating to me atleast
You cant play speed with the cookiezi technique, you need to use aetrna technique or somethong similar, your fingers need to be mostly straight
The main drawback for speed with this is honestly that if I put too much force into my tapping, my thumb starts to hurt.
Or the pinky, my pinky hurts alot more than my thumb when under streaming stress
Aetrna? Ekoro? Aricin?
Maybe I'll talk about them in a later video, their tapping styles just aren't as interesting.
@@ginneko3394 what I’m saying is that to say Shigetora has the best tapping style but all these players are better in tapping related categories, wouldn’t that mean they have better tapping technique? I mean saying Shigetora has the best tapping technique for finger control when Ekoro is arguably the best finger control player of all time with a different technique just doesn’t make any sense. Also to say his technique is the best for speed yet players like Aetrna and Aricin have significantly different techniques goes to show it’s not the best. Essentially I don’t think it’s the “best technique”. There may be certain that are better than others but at the end of the day, I think it comes down to personal preference.
@@YSoAggressive absolutely personal preference trumps any optimization you can come up with. It's kind of hard to say what players are better/worse but for shige: sure his speed isn't merami level but back when goodbye was ranked he got like 97% when the highest acc from others was 89. Finger control he has tons of good scores, can't name any off the top of my head but if you scroll his channel enough you'll probably find what I'm talking about. Point is, shige plays a lot of skillsets so I do believe there are going to be players that surpass him in certain singular skills.
THAT BEING SAID this video wasn't super serious, it's more that I saw his interesting tapping and wanted to talk about it, knowing that using shigetora in the title would get lots of views. After all, I'm a content creator, not a pro player.
@@ginneko3394 I’m not saying these players are better than shige though. I’m saying that in this video, you try to make a point that he has the greatest tapping style for both speed and finger control. I’ve been around since 2016, I used to watch shige back in OpenRec days and in his prime. I know what he can do and how good his finger control his. He’s not better than Ekoro in finger control. There is a reason he’s got an SS on Sputnik, or is the number 1 by a large margin on Decaplets which is one of the hardest ranked finger control maps out right now. He is also the goat of polyrhythmic maps which in itself is only accomplished through heavy finger control. So for shige to have the best tapping style for finger control, it makes 0 sense. This example is further by the high bpm stream players. That takes a certain level technique to be able to reach those speeds and so you would think that since they are so far above in the aspect of speed that clearly shige can’t have better overall tapping technique right? That’s just how I see it. Now what I’m not saying is that you should copy Ekoro, or aetrna, or Aricin’s technique because what makes them so good is their efficiency in their own methods which is only built from years of perfecting your own method. To put it simply, make your method the best method. Make whatever is comfortable your best tapping method cause all the top 100 players at some point tried to copy Shige’s tapping method and decided it wasn’t very good for them so they switched because it isn’t “the best”, it’s preference.
@@YSoAggressive that's basically what I said, I agree with you.
Why Osu! Players Dont Fucking Understand Preference... - Derek
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@@ginneko3394 title says that he has the best tapping technique in osu
which isnt really true because you know the P word
@@thebluefrawog well imo if two players started out one using a bad tapping technique and the other a good one, the one with the good tapping will improve faster. I don't have any evidence to back this up other than cookie being the best player for a long time but other people have told me switching their tapping style made them faster.
@@ginneko3394 ok
türk müsün la türk olupda böyle video yapan ilk defa görüyorum (değilmişsin)
Why don't you just buy a table that costs only 25 dollar in Turkey? It's very cheap for you
Haha don't worry, we only lived in that apartment for about 2 weeks, now I have my own table lol
@@ginneko3394 Good for you dude
@@erenkaleli6861 thx
he has the best tapping but has the worse aim
Bit of an overexaggeration, but I'm pretty sure it's because his pen grip hurts his hand.
@@ginneko3394 ye, i was just capping about the worst aim lol
Sure he has the best tapping style, Smh aetrna better
he doesn't
he doesnt
Disliked. Music could've been louder