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Hard to say this is fully impartial, the Palestinians entering Lebanese society where certainly a big cause for the conflict that followed. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact, it disrupted the fragile social order between the different religious groups at the time, and where a catalyst for the civil war.
@@spartawelly5863 I have lived in the Middle East and my father was a diplomat posted there, so I know about the topic first hand. Also, I studied it myself in university.
@@guayaquilindependiente8763 the fragile social order you mentioned was never going to stand for long.... Maronites and Muslims have been fighting for hundreds of years and just because palestinians were a pawn in the bigger conflict of Lebanon doesn't mean you can can throw all your blame to them
Bless you 💜🙏🏽 truth even hard truth is always best! I feel people not being honest is usually part of narrative pr movement, either way it’s against the word of GOD💜🙏🏽
I'm curious about what do different communities think of the subject currently. I'm guessing by your name that you're a muslim (just an assumption) and that didn't prevent you from blaming the Palestinians.
Well as typical of the Lebanese, they blame everybody else for their woes. No one else is to blame but themselves for starting a backwards sectarian civil war. Putting aside the PLO’s issues, let’s not forget some Lebanese factions sold out their own country when they supported the Israeli invasion for the gain of their own sect. The issues that sparked the civil war long preceded the 1948 Palestinian exodus into Lebanon and will remain long after too.
@@farisal-sayed172 I mean the Maronites were the majority on that land. The Druze were not. The sunnis and Shiite were invaders. If you were to ask me, I'd say the Druze sold out there own kind by siding with the PLO in order to gain leverage over the Maronites.
@@jasonbrown5014 “The Sunnis and Shias were invaders” ~ from where exactly? Lebanon pre civil war gave majority representation to the christian minority, which was a primary cause of the war in the first place. Also have you ever seen an ethnic map of Lebanon? Hardly any sect is geographically predominant across the country let alone a small sect like the Maronites. I’m not very familiar with the Druze’s role in the war, but what I can tell you is the PLO did not pose nearly the same military threat to Lebanon’s sovereignty as a powerful sovereign state like Israel did and continues to. They’ve invaded and bombed Lebanon 3 times now. They could do it again if they wanted to. Whereas when the PLO left, they left for good. So I don’t think that’s a fair comparison to make.
@@MisuTeeNo the cause of war is complex not just religion it also involved Politics. Remember we also have Muslims in the Philippines but our problem is not as severe as Lebanon. I hope them a better future for every people in the Middle East. One of the main reason of the war is Iran who supported Terrorist group rather than using diplomacy to fix politucal problem.
I think another important factor is that Lebanon was such a weak state that it became the chessboard for the regional powers in their struggle for dominance (first the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians and Israelis and then Saudi Arabia and Iran). This is still going on with outside forces pulling at the strings of various factions.
Definitely in France, and perhaps Sweden and Germany to come. In Sweden, their children are Sweden-born, but don’t speak Swedish, only speak Arabic, they are living in a parallel society and don’t assimilate Only Poland and similar countries will keep their identity in 100 - 300 years.
@@HikmaHistory Than why did you put in your thumbnail that "Palestine ruined the Middle East"? Seems like nuance is a luxury only for the recesses of the comment section
@@stratospheric37because at that time it was the Palestinians who were kicked out, going to other countries disturbing the status quo. Plus at tht time all the arab countries were playing both sides of the game
I served in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan with the US Army in 2009-2010. Your videos provide a lot of the context on the Middle East that I wish I'd known about back then. Thank you for all you do.
Glad that you are brave enough to acknowledge that you were wrong, I hope you work on educating your people about it by exposing the politicians that fool the masses for their own gain
@@gayraamgayshivganduamerisw3102 Most people who enlist in the military here in the US do so, because they lack a better options in life. Especially those who don’t have the grades or cannot afford to get into college. This is compounded in rural/farm/ lightly populated areas that lack the opportunities that urban areas provides. These unsuspecting servicemen & women then become expendable pawns to do the bidding of Zionist. The zionist have the most important and influential political organizations in the US. Our ex-pats say our troops are closer to victims of Stockholm syndrome than Terrorists!
hhhhhhh if was not of them you still worshipping fire which you still celebrate that and its the longest holiday>>>>> by the way you are the beigest enemy of Islam don't kid yourself that Iran is a Muslim country, you are hiding under the flag of shea, muslim dosnt comet adultery, mutah in your country open for zena
The PLO wasn't a Sunni Islamic organization, as the video is misleadingly suggesting, it was a big tent national Palestinian organization, housing Muslim, Christians and secular Marxist Palestinians. The majority are Sunni Muslims, and the Fatah was always a Muslim organization but In fact Hamas rose to prominence (and prompt up by Israel) by providing an Islamic alternative to the PLO more inclusive big tent. reducing it to Muslim vs Christians is an over simplification. it is more complex than that and there were Christians on both sides of the Lebanese civil war.
Similiar to what happened in Iran. People were revolting against the Shah. Those were radical muslims, socialists, liberals and moderates. At last the radical muslims betrayed the cause and took over the whole country.
Hamas wasn’t necessarily propped up by Israel, Israel kinda allowed them to exist in the beginning because their ideas clashed with the PLO, but that backfired for Israel pretty quickly
As a Lebanese, I don't agree with the conclusion. The idea that the Christian slight domination was the main reason is almost universally rejected in Lebanon. No internal injustice should ever cause one to betray their country and align with foreign factors. This idea is accepted by all Lebanese religions today.
@@موسى_7Whole Mediterranean share history for a long time. But political communities are divided. Fear of changing of the equilibrium could spark violence. I think it was the major cause of the war in Lebanon.
But then you align with Iran 😂😂😂 I don’t agree or support Israel but Christian’s had no other support they did what they had to. Then Gemayel tried to kick them out
Regarding the black september events. I think it is fair to say the PLO actually establish a state within a state. Hussein was objectively right in his view of them undermining his govt. We are talking here about an armed group using force ulawfully to achieve political goals...
As a Lebanese, Beirut, and the landscape of Lebanon in the 1970s were different to the state of affairs that govern the city today. While there are some similarities of course, it's the actors that have changed since then. The Palestinians (the PLO) in the 1970's ran specific streets and 'hoods, that you either had to be Palestinian or a an "Allied" Lebanese, or a "local" of that specific area to enter. You were strictly not allowed to enter or pass through, otherwise, you're basically dead. The same rule applied to various 'hood's and areas run by different militia / gang / army leaders, that were based on religious and political alliances. There were armed-checkpoints on the streets that literally checked your identification. If the check-point was Palestinian, and your national ID showed Christian? Yeah you were kidnapped, or shot on the spot. Vice versa in the Phalange/Right-wing controlled areas. If your name was Mohammed, or you came from a Muslim neighborhood/town...you're taken out. Lebanon evolved into a playground of foreign and local militia's to basically have it out on each other in one big free-for-all. We suffered 15 years because of it, and to this day the scars of civil war and sectarianism exist. We are in a financial crisis where our local currency is worth toilet paper, there is massive emigration out of Lebanon, there is no President (and if there is, he's basically a useless puppet), highest refugee per capita IN THE WORLD, and to top it all off we are on the brink of one of the biggest wars with Israel. (by the way fuck Israel). Good times. Can;t wait for this summer.
Yassir Arafat was a self interested person. He was a tool of Tyrants like Saddam, Abdel Nasser and Assad. He participated in Saddams invasions of Kuwait and Iran and he lived a luxurious life in Tunisia.
@@intellectualcucumber Pakistan, which supports the Taliban, is very strong and Tajikistan, which supports the resistance, is unfortunately not so strong, although it is a very beautiful country
Great channel man! been bingewatching many vidz about these conflicts to get "educated" as they say... and your is top notch! Good for prime time tv airing, so please can't wait to see more stuff for the future!🙌
Several years ago, I watched a series of shows on political, ethnic and religious groups in Lebanon, most of which were made in Lebanon. Amongst other items, it featured the various conflicts and alliances. At one point, the Palestinians were allied with the Druze, perhaps others, as well. They sent a delegation to Syria to President Hafez Al-Assad to gain his blessing for a Final Solution to the Christian Problem in Lebanon. Christians were to be exterminated except for those who could escape. Assad's answer was not totally based on humanitarian grounds because a kingmaker needs various factions that are competing with each other to play that role as Syria was playing in Lebanon. Still, he was genuinely shocked because the Al-Assad dynasty had no trouble with killing political opponents, but to kill a whole people on the basis of religion was anathema to it. So, Assad rejected the proposal and told the Palestinians that to exterminate the Lebanese Christians was uncivilized and inhumane. That incident always stuck in my mind both for what it said about the Palestinians and what it said about the Al-Assad regime.
Actually Christians had most religious freedom in Iraq and Syria. Despite not getting along with each other Asad and Sadam were both Ba'athists. Baathists promoted Arab nationalism and not religion. They also understood how radical Islam was and ruled with an iron fist to keep order. Look what happened in Iraq after the US removed Sadam. Suicide bombers like crazy, civil war. Sat what u want about
AH yes the same group that had a Palestinian christian leader wanted to exterminate christians, dont believe me? Read about George habash buddy. My Friend who goes to the west bank since he is Palestinian interacts with Palestinian christian sometimes and there is no hatred on them. some time ago, A Palestinian-American christian who reported on Israeli crimes in the West bank was assasinated by Israel and her death was mourned over by Palestinian christians and Muslims. I know my self more than you know me buddy so stfu.
Step 1: Let an extremist militia (PLO) take over your country. Step 2: Look on as your own country gets destroyed as a result Step 3: Enjoy a brief period of peace and learn nothing from past mistakes and let another extremist militia (Hizbollah) take over your country Step 4: Look on as your own country once again gets completely destroyed as a result. Step 5: Guess
Or just get rid of that shityy political system and give everyone equal political rights most of those problems will be solved including having secular parties for elections.
Has nothing to do with the political system. Lebanon‘s govt was always too weak to not let any extremist miltias take ground in their country and use it as a base for attacks
It isn't the fault of lebanon, it was still weak at that time it couldn't do much. And now Hezballah controls it due to the Lebanese military barely holding itself a normal soldier gets 40 dollars a month. And not only that they don't get issued weapons they gotta pay for them, Hezballah controls the political system now there hasn't been a president for over 4 or 5 years. I'm lebanese
@@Nawabofbengalthat would never work. Islam isnt just a religion - it is an imperialist ideology. There is no separation of religion and state as is the case with Christianity. The problem is that whem you live with too many muslims then even if it isba secular system, they will still push for sharia. Turkey tried to go secular and then eventually they have fallen into the same trap of pushing for a theocracy. Christians in Turkey are treated as second class citizens.
Your documentary has several points of contention. For instance, when Palestinians sought refuge in Lebanon, they arrived with their weapons, significantly impacting the local population, tourism, and the economy. The Palestinians faced limited opportunities compared to the Lebanese, leading to their discontent and subsequent clashes, escalating tensions further. Regrettably, the truth remains that the influx of armed Palestinians into Lebanon had a detrimental effect, outweighing any potential benefits it might have brought.
@@HikmaHistory While the Lebanese civil war was brutal and did go on for a long time, the participants were mostly using small arms (machine guns, RPG's, ...) and things like car bombs. Nothing ever approached the level of violence where the regime (e.g.Syria) was dropping barrel bombs, leveling entire cities or resorting to chemical weapons when they could get away with it. In terms of people killed, estimates range from 120,000 to 150,000 dead in Lebanon due to the civil war. In Syria, the war is still going on in some areas, and war dead estimates start at 500,00 and go up from there. It terms of the amount of destruction in Syrian cities, dead civilians, and the millions of refugees the war created, I don't think the Lebanese civil war is even a close competitor.
The intricacies of the "Middle East" in the end- period of Western direct colonialiam are so endlessly fascinating... TBH it's a lot of your channel! Thank you as always
Tell that to the christians that committed multiple genocides against everyone, and the fact that the places where "there's blood" also include India, Myanmar, China, Russia, Cyprus and Bosnia and Herzegovina, in which the perpetrators weren't the muslims, but instead the people that persecuted them. I even as an atheist homosexual who flips the bird to the imaginary God/Allah/Hehuwey, I can say to you, to please, remember Sabra and Shatila.
A multi confessional government can actually protect the minority by allocating certain offices to it. Whereas a democracy or similar arrangement could leave the minority out in the cold as described by deTocqueville in Tyranny of the Majority. Regardless, great video that explores a subject of many news reports in my childhood
The modern understanding of a democracy is closely tied in with the concept of human rights. Which by their vary nature allocate equal rights to all demographics, establishing where a space where the minority and majority have equal opportunities and legal protection. I don't know for certain the competency of the Lebanese authority to establish such a state, but from the looks of it there were no real wide spread inadequacies and injusticies. The story however goes the same way as it has a hundred times, the story of islamism and direct disrespect to governance that doesn't allign itself with islamist policy, or better said the policy of individual imam's (cuz they all have their own agendas). Looking at it through a historical lens muslims have done this to whatever region they were onces a minority and swiftly became a majority. Islam is a disease...
Are you aware of any historical examples where it actually worked? Because I have heard about this system being used 3 times, Lebenen , Pre-Break up Yugoslavia and currently in my country, Iraq, obviously since the first two examples went up in flames I am somewhat worried if it will work for us, would be nice to to hear of examples where it worked out great.
@NoorAhmed-nk2jq I would say the Parliamentary system works best as an example when there is a coalition government that includes minority members in the cabinet. A slightly different example is the US Senate with the filibuster protects the rights of the party out of power. I feel that what I am using to illustrate doesn't take into account the tribal or ethnic differences that can lead to insurmountable problems with a coalition as you point out. So in effect my examples may not stand up to direct comparison. I wish you luck
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq All you have to do is look at any freedom index or racial equality list where states are ranked and you will always find western european countries in the top 20. All of which are the best examples of democracies and respect for human rights. Heck they developed human rights in the first place.
@@saxon6 A parliamentary system is a very good example! Take a look at the Netherlands for example, they have by far the most parties present within their parliament and they are absolute bastions of light for humanity. They consistenly rank in the top 5 for any social issue cause and have an amazing track record of respect for human rights, at least in the 21st century.
In any discussion of the middle-east words are important. Calling the PLO in Jordan "a state within a state" can give western minds the idea that the PLO created an independent county for tax purposes. The reality is the PLO, with massive support of the USSR, created their own armed forces (tanks, heavy artillery, massive amount of arms) inside Jordan that went to war with the Jordanian army - trying to take over that country. Jordan fought back and almost lost when Syria decided to help the PLO by crossing into Jordanian territory. Israel forced the Syrians to retreat and Jordan prevailed, expelling the entire PLO army from the country. The PLO reconstituted its army and increased USSR supply of weapons in southern Lebanon (aka Fatahland).
@@fran9201 The USSR was too busy to fight Sunni Islamic extremists in Afghanistan supported by The US, China, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to get involved in another country that wasn't their war, USSR army deployement in Lebanon would have anger Iran and China (who also was supporting Iran) and the Chinese could have responded by sending special forces of the PLA to support The Hezbollah and a great disaster would have occured.
Wise words. Lebanon has and continues to blame everyone but themselves for destroying a good thing they had going for themselves. Fact is regardless of the Palestinian presence in Lebanon, the Lebanese are racists amongst themselves and to everyone around them. And they continue to act entitled despite this. It was in no Arab states’ interest whatsoever for Lebanon to rip itself apart on petty sectarian woes. Frankly I have little respect for any movement that’s willing to sell out its own country as means for its own gain like certain factions did when they supported Israel’s invasion in the 80’s.
The PLO didn't cause the Lebanese civil war, but they certainly were an important catalyst for it. The seeds of the civil war were planted by the French when they didn't agree to create multiple sectarian states in Lebanon (that all the Lebanese knew they needed) and opted for a single multi-sectarian dysfunctional state instead.
LOLOL. this is exactly the opposite of what happened. the French divided Greater Syria into sectarian cantons (sunni, alawi, christian, etc.) all these states collapsed following the Syrian revolution, and formed modern Syria. the only except is Lebanon. the majority of Lebanese never wanted multiple sectarian states. this is a not accurate at all. the majority of Lebanese did not identify as separate from those across the new boarders in Syria or Palestine. Lebanese even tried to join the Nasserist state, but the US government sent marines in the 1950s. modern Lebanon only exists because of civil war terrorism and the Israeli invasion.
@@ffii7773 The history is a little more complicated. During Ottoman times, the Christians had their own autonomous province known as Mount Lebanon, which was created to protect the Christians from their Muslim neighbors. This area was almost totally Christian, with a few pockets of Druze (also hated by the Muslims). When the French arrived, they could have left this province as-is and created a Christian Lebanese state, but they applied their French idea of "nation without religion" and added in large chunks of Sunni and Shiite areas to the north, east and south - doubling the size of Mount Lebanon to create Greater Lebanon. The Christians decided to agree to this as they thought the French would protect them. Bad mistake. When the French left, things went back to normal and Muslims just had to go kill them some Christians. And the rest is history.
@@banto1 The French "nation without religion" never applied to Lebanon, but to secular Syria. Lebanon is the project of the Maronite elite and some of the feudal leaders of other sects who collaborated with the French colonial powers. They embraced the pre-Enlightenment values of tribalism and separation. But because the mutasarrifate of Mount Lebanon was to small to be a real state, they tried to annex non-Christian lands and force them to live in separation from their brethren across the new boarder. the resentment caused by this action was not due to religion as you claim. The civil war was a part of the Cold War, the question of pan-Arabism, and liberation from colonialism.
@@ffii7773 Given that this is the Middle East, multiple narratives (aka historical myths) are the norm. Even your set of Alternative Facts seem to be part of the terrain. My point was that France COULD have created stable sectarian states, but for (enter your favorite myth cause here) reasons, they did the opposite, and we see the results today in both failed states of Lebanon and Syria. France was given the mandate with the EXPLICIT mission of creating stable, viable self-governing entities, and as we can all see today - they failed miserably at the fulfilling this mission. You want to blame the cold war and pan-Arabism for the mess in Lebanon - fine. I put the blame squarely on those who were in charge - The French.
I'm a Lebanese from Beirut and the short story is : One group would be the political majority in the country (marounites) where they heald everything for them and would rarely share with others (muslims) so when the Palestinians arrived Muslims got excited that someone is here to better the scale of fairness, but the Muslims weren't aware that these new arrivals were thinking of expansions not 100% fighting against israel. So an attack here and oppression there we clashed. If we were founded on the idea that leaders should be in power based on their merits and not their sect or religion then we wouldn't have gone through all this bull**** where I can't have a normal conversation with someone without hearing the same old song that : "we sre all brothers my friend) indicating that they don't have a problem with me instead of talking about daily life or studdie or work or whatever! That statement alone is just a self assurance that the person talking to me makes to feal or make me feal comfortable around hem and it wasn't needed in the first place because I had no intention of action differently because you're sunni or shia or durzi or Marounie or whatever just be your self you are not your parents who slaughtered one another like animals in the name of stupid ideals that have rendered the powerful weak and the weak strong and soon history will repeat it self all over again! This js the 21st century 2023 you have a smartphone, use it and learn about you fellow countryman or just get your head out of your *** and socialize more with people not of your village, city , Street , religion or sect!
@@boomgoesdynamite4177 in other words all this would've been avoided if europeans didn't colonize and teach decision to achieve control Mind your own dam business
The PLO may have ignited the civil war in Lebanon, but they were far from the only cause. The tensions were already there, and the PLO was merely the spark that lit the fire. Lebanese society was already fraught with tensions, and it the PLO didn't enter Lebanon, there would certainly be some other outside factor (ex. a civil war in a neighboring country, Islamic fundamentalism funded by Iran, etc.) that could have upset the balance.
Sectarianism is very bad the Middle East, particularly in places like Lebanon But this goes to a deeper point of why aren’t people just people first and foremost? Religious affiliation is the first thing that has to be taken into account, and then whether they’re Arab or not, and then finally, whether they’re male or female. All these factors make discrimination and persecution ever present in the region, I think at some point it’s not even clear what people are fighting for because once divisions exist conflict never ceases
Muslims and their identity politics ammaright? Christianity and Judaism are pretty well know for their "love thy neighbour" doctorine, can the same be said about islam?
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswagyes letterly mistreatment of neibgours mean someone is not good muslim. Cook enough food to give your neigbour. The way how good should muslims teat their neigbours made them compare neighbours to family.
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswagIslamic history proves that even minor differences in faith were a cause for violence. They killed the grandsons of Mohammed because they were of the wrong opinion. Islam promotes violent engagement because it does leave a door opinion for violence.
I would say it has to do with neighboring and far away influences from nations like Iran, Israel, and the U.S. When Israel invaded Lebanon and the U.S sent in troops Iran started Hezbollah, which would kick out the U.S and Israel, and has since then only grown in power and influence. Now, a massive extremist militia in a region as unstable as the middle east isn't too safe. There are many factors that played into this but in my opinion this was the big game changer as it attracted the attention of the west, Israel, and Iran, international influence and interests is a catastrophe
After having watched this docco and a few others pertaining to countries in the middle east , I've come to a conclusion that the Palestinians need a home land. It seems that everywhere they go , they feed off the internal secetarian problems to try and push for a cause for a Palestinian nation. I hope Lebanon does recover from the aftermath of past secretarian violence and the recent clashes.
Well they weren’t treated well by Christian’s .. and shia in general .. it was already tensions .. imo it’s mostly Israel behind all this and they used it to invade and they always wanted Lebanon ..
I remember my father saying what an amazing place it was when the war was going on his German business partner built his career there. I guess it was what Dubai now is but more beautiful. You think the war ending would get it back on track but it seems more of a basket case now than ever.
‘Peaceful’ people who will create a state within a state, stage coups and attempt to overthrow the government in a ‘peaceful’ way, like they did in Jordan 🇯🇴 and Lebanon 🇱🇧 probably even Kuwait 🇰🇼 as well if Iraq stayed there, and if Kuwait weren’t liberated in the Gulf War. ‘Peace loving’ people ✌️
@@inthendwealldie as a jordanian, no they did not do that, jordanians love palestinians and we welcome them with open arms, always, do not speak for me or my people, you are clearly as israeli supporter and are trying to make palestine look bad just for your narrative/ propaganda, may allah guide us and you inshallah, and sorrry for my bad english, its not my first lamguage.
Thank you for your good and informational video. Reduce this complex theme to a christian-muslim minority/majority problem is forgetting, that there were different maronite groups, who fouhgt another and shia, druze and sunni in the same way. The same by the external influence - name only israel is forgetting the syrian, iran and saudi influence and intervention. But sure it is impossible to show all this in few minutes. All the best for all people in this great land, whatever they believe.
From my POV as a maronite, imagine sitting in your land and you see foreign militias setting Checkpoints to stage attacks and taking "protection money" from locals, and you are supposed to just shut up and watch this happening in your own land? Lebanon was doing okay before why ruin everything? And for what...
Iran has ruined modern-day Lebanon, along with its proxy Hezbollah. A peace agreement with Israel will be a huge blessing to Lebanon and the region, the Lebanese should wash their hands from the Palestinian aspirations, too many arabs gave up their lives for this foolish cause. Iran will not allow them to do so, because it enjoys having a private army on the border with Israel, to be Iran's long arm against Israel; hence the problem. The Lebanese have the same old problem, a foreign army inside Lebanon pointing guns at Israel, pulling Lebanon into a conflict which is not their own.
I'm really enjoying your series on Arab history and especially Lebanon Sad to say my only two connections to Lebanon are my father who stayed in a kibbutz on the border in the 70s and listened to the two sides shelling each other and my brother in law who was in the IDF in 2006 and invaded the place These days I try get as much history from the Muslim perspective as I can find, because I got way too much of the Zionist perspective growing up and there's a lot I need to unlearn I do see critical problems with the way Lebanon was set up (partly the feudal inheritance from Ottoman times and partly the legacy of French colonialism) but Israel has made it all so much worse 1982 might have been a good time to revoke Menachem Begin's nobel peace prize
Between a fight with a savage and a civilised man it is your duty to support the civilised man. Islam and Sharia is incompatible with freedom of speech and secularism therefore is incompatible with democracy and personal freedoms. Have a great Day ❤
To be honest being Palestinian myself living in the United States now...... I find it beautiful everything you said I'm going back in history and same here. I think it's good to learn from history and go back as brothers with no hate moving forward.....we are all humans
I'm also an ex-Zionist. Kudos for posing the right questions and being on the right side of history. Indeed Israel exacerbated an already flawed political system.
I think a lot of Palestinians who found refuge in Lebanon were misguided by people like Arafat who was later rumoured to have been honeycombed by Israel over some “not so traditional” photos! Now we can always blame Israel for this or we can accept that Arab leaders aren’t always very forthcoming with their own!
After watching this video, none of this would’ve ever happened had there been no Nakba. The more I learn, the more I recognize the creation of Israel has completely destabilized the entire region.
There are 22 Arab countries, but they can't accept only one Jewish country, the only democracy in the region, the only country that respects women rights...
@@luandaachoa3763Because the "Jewish country" is a racist settler-colonial project that kills Palestinians and steals their land, and it gives zero democratic rights to Palestinians in occupied territories, especially women.
Nakba originally meant the failure to destroy Israel. It shifted only in later decades to mean the Arabs who were displaced during the war. The original meaning should be mentioned as it is important for understanding the Arab mindset and motivations.
Wonderful Jewish men can be seen praising the khosher deeds of r@p!ng palestinian girls during their time in Lekhi and during the Naqba in an Israeli documentary called Tantura....the true teachings of the toe-rah being followed by juice....shalom
The fuel for the fire’ of the Civil War was built up over decades leading up to its start. The P.L.O. Having been ‘ejected’ from Jordan can be accused of fermenting the War and igniting it, but in my opinion not the underlying responsibility. As an observation, the various factions in Lebanon did not try to prevent it, rather they each tried to take advantage of it. Unfortunately the repercussions of the Civil War lasted after the P.L.O. were exiled to Tunisia. From the depths of despair, hope still remains for the future of a beautiful country.
1948: Lebanon took in more 150K Sunni Palestinian Refugees? 😳 1967: PLO was to synchronize terrorism 1970: Black September 1969: Armed Fatahland 1975: Muslims vs Christians in Lebanon 1978: Israel invades Lebanon 1982: Israel partners with Christian’s 😳
RIP Lebanon. A country who was taken over by Islam during our life time. A modern example of what happened in the past. The moment the Muslim population, with the immigration of Palestinians the country was thrown into shambles. These Palestines behaved as if they ruled Lebanon and thus the Christian population began defending themselves from what they considered abuses. So when the PLO ambushed and killed Christian resistance, all hell broke loose.
Actually I'm Lebanese and my father lived in the first village which received the first bomb from Israel in 1967, he passed an entire summer with the PLO and saw from his own eyes the Phalangist were the oned who accepted guns from Israel and started shooting their own people.
I feel bad for the Palestinians. You people can't catch a break. Between the occupation and your statelessness in those refugee camps. It must be hard to still be happy.
The Palestinians couldn't have asked for better hosts in Jordan. Yet they turned on their generous and sympathetic hosts there and staged an attempted coup! The Palestinians were treated like royalty in Gaddafi's Libya, too, but then started undermining Gaddafi's government and were expelled for it. Egypt went to war with Israel four times damaging there already weak economy for Palestinians. Palestinian repay Egypt by killing Egyptian soldiers in Sinai peninsula. Syrian and Iran helped them by giving aids yet Palestine joins the rebel side during the Syrian civil war. The Palestinians lived high on the hog in Kuwait, too. But... guess what they then did? Yep! They supported Saddam Hussein's invasion of the country that took them in! Lebanon also took Palestinians in, and what do the Palestinians do? Turn part of the country into a military base and get it invaded. The Palestinians have attacked almost every friend they've had in the post-WWII era. Truly, they are a maladapted, ultra-violent people that no one anywhere wants anything to do with, except use them as pawns.
Yes, they caused it. They tried taking over Jordan and got kicked out into Lebanon, which eventually fell after Israel left. You'd think the video would mention Black September, at least.
Scholarly consensus. Most scholars agree that the Philistines were of Greek origin, and that they came from Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands or, more generally, from the area of modern-day Greece.
Back then, nobody outside the ruling class understood that politics doesn't always sit within black and white definitive stance. Populism and nationalism were "on steroids" and common ppl were expecting decisive victories in every single war and political turmoil. Lebanon was hoping to defeat Israel, only to end up with its own domestic politics and society became fractured and fragmented even further as a result of every single political decisions to accomodate the more militant factions within Lebanese political sphere. If you ask non-Lebanese folks within the OIC member countries about what they hope for Lebanon now, they only care about seeing some Lebanon vs Israel showdown. They don't care about Lebanon's economy struggles after the civil war, how black market economy has starved Lebanon of its much-needed financial sources to stay afloat.
So let me get this straight, first Israel kicks them out because they are too violent. Then Jordan kick them out because they are too violent. Finally they cause a devastating civil war in Lebanon, their PLO leaders get kicked out and sent to Tunisia. Kuwait also kicked them out, under different circumstances.
@@mbsouthflorida I woul not know. The group i am talking about does not use head on violence for achieving their goals. At least outside their country that is.
that by far was the best short documentary I have ever watched about this specific topic I wish the Lebanese put aside their differences and treat each other nicely without shades of racism and fanaticism
@@waltonsmith7210 Lebanon was the "Switzerland of the East" until they imported the people of the stone age to their territories or offered refuge to these stone age people.
I appreciate your videos always. Here are some ideas for new videos? The clashes you mentioned in the 19th century were very much christian massacres that drove out the christian communities in 1820 and 1860. Both are poorly documented but thousands of Christians clans were forced out of Zahle and mt lebanon. Christians in Lebanon have always been under attack since the Ghassanid tribe controlled the territory. All of which are extremely interesting and intellectual politics. You ever considered a podcast my brother ?? 🤍
I wouldn't give those comments much measure, all of this is measured already in the era of AI. For me? Some of the finest people I knew growing up where Palestinian, and more personally the PLO offered up weapons for the humble saints of the IRA. Woulda gotten away with it too, but was probably correctly assessed to be too easily noticed by Israel, and by extension U.S. and U.K. Ireland would rather be a tax haven and bide their time before immediately throwing in with the world's "bad guys". TLDR; do not despair, there are strange friends from corners not many people think about these days.
Thanks. Appreciate your discussion of Lebanese sectarian politics and the Palestinian community there. Lebanon’s sectarian politics and demographics has made it hard to integrate fellow Arabs.
i agree to this... while other muslim country continue living in peace even they are living as minority they still chose peace than resisting and war... unlike palestinians they continue fighting with israel and when they are in war they invite other countries to join them only led to defeat, losses and death from them.. and treatment to them by israelis becoming more harsh the more they fight with them..
Why don't you help them return to their country then? isn't that what they want, and what everyone wants? Oh, yea Israel stole their country, and where did the Israelis come from? all around the world! So how is that the Palestinians fault?
@@tFighterPilot are you joking? Maintain a presence? The legal term is "illegal occupation" lets call a spade a spade. Israel illegally occupier Lebanon for almost 2 decades so no it's not "maintain a presence" but nice try.
7:39 The PLO outright taxed people without permission from Jordan. That would make it a state, as Murray Rothbard defined a state as any entity that can coercively tax people in a given area of land.
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Awesome video my friend
@@chrissanchez2998 Thank you Chris!
Question my friend do you think the British screwed up the Palestinians with their politics
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@@polarmouse3943 hello my friend I was wondering could you translate that to me I would like to read your comment thank you
Hard to say this is fully impartial, the Palestinians entering Lebanese society where certainly a big cause for the conflict that followed. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact, it disrupted the fragile social order between the different religious groups at the time, and where a catalyst for the civil war.
Which direct result of zionist colonialism. When you’re displaced from your home, you need to go somewhere.
Makes sense to me.
Guayaquilindependentw8763 after seeing one video on RUclips and is suddenly a master on Lebanese affairs
@@spartawelly5863 I have lived in the Middle East and my father was a diplomat posted there, so I know about the topic first hand. Also, I studied it myself in university.
@@guayaquilindependiente8763 the fragile social order you mentioned was never going to stand for long.... Maronites and Muslims have been fighting for hundreds of years and just because palestinians were a pawn in the bigger conflict of Lebanon doesn't mean you can can throw all your blame to them
As a Lebanese, yes they did but also we ruined ourselves
No they did not.
@@Russell970yes they did stop lying to urself
Bless you 💜🙏🏽 truth even hard truth is always best! I feel people not being honest is usually part of narrative pr movement, either way it’s against the word of GOD💜🙏🏽
I'm curious about what do different communities think of the subject currently. I'm guessing by your name that you're a muslim (just an assumption) and that didn't prevent you from blaming the Palestinians.
Save Lebanon from the Palestinian occupation!
Great video. As a Lebanese person in the diaspora, getting a good, unbiased history of Lebanon in English isn't easy.
I appreciate that, more Lebanese/Levantine content coming!
Are you sure it's not?
Well as typical of the Lebanese, they blame everybody else for their woes. No one else is to blame but themselves for starting a backwards sectarian civil war. Putting aside the PLO’s issues, let’s not forget some Lebanese factions sold out their own country when they supported the Israeli invasion for the gain of their own sect. The issues that sparked the civil war long preceded the 1948 Palestinian exodus into Lebanon and will remain long after too.
@@farisal-sayed172 I mean the Maronites were the majority on that land. The Druze were not. The sunnis and Shiite were invaders. If you were to ask me, I'd say the Druze sold out there own kind by siding with the PLO in order to gain leverage over the Maronites.
@@jasonbrown5014 “The Sunnis and Shias were invaders” ~ from where exactly? Lebanon pre civil war gave majority representation to the christian minority, which was a primary cause of the war in the first place. Also have you ever seen an ethnic map of Lebanon? Hardly any sect is geographically predominant across the country let alone a small sect like the Maronites.
I’m not very familiar with the Druze’s role in the war, but what I can tell you is the PLO did not pose nearly the same military threat to Lebanon’s sovereignty as a powerful sovereign state like Israel did and continues to. They’ve invaded and bombed Lebanon 3 times now. They could do it again if they wanted to. Whereas when the PLO left, they left for good. So I don’t think that’s a fair comparison to make.
I am a Filipino Catholic its fascinating to know history of middle east.
The biggest Christian country in Asia
Muslim ang meron kasalanan ng lahat ng gera sa mundo
@zvezda4701Kid named China (population)
lol
@@MisuTeeNo the cause of war is complex not just religion it also involved Politics. Remember we also have Muslims in the Philippines but our problem is not as severe as Lebanon. I hope them a better future for every people in the Middle East.
One of the main reason of the war is Iran who supported Terrorist group rather than using diplomacy to fix politucal problem.
I think another important factor is that Lebanon was such a weak state that it became the chessboard for the regional powers in their struggle for dominance (first the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians and Israelis and then Saudi Arabia and Iran). This is still going on with outside forces pulling at the strings of various factions.
Israel entered because the PLO and hizballah attacked them..
Like Game of Thrones
Great power, syria
Even israel the strongest is not a great power
@@filiperosa7496
He forgot USA and USSR
What happened in Lebanon, is going to be repeated in some western European country. History repeats itself.
Good bye Europe
@@Abdool-slayer666 Nice name 😂😂
Definitely in France, and perhaps Sweden and Germany to come. In Sweden, their children are Sweden-born, but don’t speak Swedish, only speak Arabic, they are living in a parallel society and don’t assimilate
Only Poland and similar countries will keep their identity in 100 - 300 years.
@@womsky4537 thank ya
@@inthendwealldieI would say especially in the United Kingdom where this ☪️ancer is already well developed, almost in a terminal phase.
Nothing is the fault of only one thing, but multiple factors, and this video is a perfect example of that.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
@@HikmaHistory Than why did you put in your thumbnail that "Palestine ruined the Middle East"? Seems like nuance is a luxury only for the recesses of the comment section
@@stratospheric37 there are question marks on it meaning it may or may not be.
@@stratospheric37because at that time it was the Palestinians who were kicked out, going to other countries disturbing the status quo. Plus at tht time all the arab countries were playing both sides of the game
England, France, and Italy messed up the Middle East
I served in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan with the US Army in 2009-2010. Your videos provide a lot of the context on the Middle East that I wish I'd known about back then. Thank you for all you do.
You are criminal who should be punished
Glad that you are brave enough to acknowledge that you were wrong, I hope you work on educating your people about it by exposing the politicians that fool the masses for their own gain
Nangarhar is beautiful and thank you, plenty of more content coming!
@@MhmdBDRD Thank you for your kind words. I wish you the best.
@@gayraamgayshivganduamerisw3102
Most people who enlist in the military here in the US do so, because they lack a better options in life.
Especially those who don’t have the grades or cannot afford to get into college. This is compounded in rural/farm/ lightly populated areas that lack the opportunities that urban areas provides.
These unsuspecting servicemen & women then become expendable pawns to do the bidding of Zionist. The zionist have the most important and influential political organizations in the US. Our ex-pats say our troops are closer to victims of Stockholm syndrome than Terrorists!
As an IRANIAN, I WANTED TO SEE YOUR ANALYSIS ON UMMAYAD AND ABBASID AND ABOVE All PRE Arab history ,hopefully you will take it seriously 😊❤
I’m very exited by pre-Islamic history and hopefully in the near future I can start making content on it!
@@gayraamgayshivganduamerisw3102bruh
Aren't the Ummayad and Abbasid Empire Islamic-Arab empires? So how can it be pre-Arab history?
hhhhhhh if was not of them you still worshipping fire which you still celebrate that and its the longest holiday>>>>> by the way you are the beigest enemy of Islam don't kid yourself that Iran is a Muslim country, you are hiding under the flag of shea, muslim dosnt comet adultery, mutah in your country open for zena
@@duckbizniz663pre islamic era is the assyrians,presian, etc
The PLO wasn't a Sunni Islamic organization, as the video is misleadingly suggesting, it was a big tent national Palestinian organization, housing Muslim, Christians and secular Marxist Palestinians. The majority are Sunni Muslims, and the Fatah was always a Muslim organization but In fact Hamas rose to prominence (and prompt up by Israel) by providing an Islamic alternative to the PLO more inclusive big tent. reducing it to Muslim vs Christians is an over simplification. it is more complex than that and there were Christians on both sides of the Lebanese civil war.
Similiar to what happened in Iran. People were revolting against the Shah. Those were radical muslims, socialists, liberals and moderates. At last the radical muslims betrayed the cause and took over the whole country.
Why did all the Palestinian Christians get killed or forced to leave by their Muslim neighbors
@@condor237 forced to leave where exactly?
@@condor237The Coptics and Maronites are living proof that it wasn't a officialised system of killings
Hamas wasn’t necessarily propped up by Israel, Israel kinda allowed them to exist in the beginning because their ideas clashed with the PLO, but that backfired for Israel pretty quickly
As a Lebanese, I don't agree with the conclusion. The idea that the Christian slight domination was the main reason is almost universally rejected in Lebanon. No internal injustice should ever cause one to betray their country and align with foreign factors. This idea is accepted by all Lebanese religions today.
Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan. None of them are truly foreign to each other; they shared history since the Bronze age.
I am not sure Hezbollah would agree that connection with foreign power is no go zone, so to speak.
@@موسى_7Whole Mediterranean share history for a long time. But political communities are divided. Fear of changing of the equilibrium could spark violence. I think it was the major cause of the war in Lebanon.
@milosmilojevic3506 I agree with you. What applied back then still applies today with some differences of course. But you are not wrong
But then you align with Iran 😂😂😂 I don’t agree or support Israel but Christian’s had no other support they did what they had to. Then Gemayel tried to kick them out
You need to mention the massacre against christians in damour, which the palestinians did.
@@mahuda5898Israel forever, antesemites bite elbows
Lol that happened because they were sieging Tal al-Zaatar, blocking supplies
Where’s the evidence if it was the Palestinians?
Yes and mention Al kataeb bringing armed members to Chouf !! Where only Lebanese ppl lived !!
The fact of the matter is, the Maronites were the ones who started the targeting of civilians as a military objective.
Regarding the black september events. I think it is fair to say the PLO actually establish a state within a state. Hussein was objectively right in his view of them undermining his govt. We are talking here about an armed group using force ulawfully to achieve political goals...
It’s the same elite vs junta that plays out in almost every Middle Eastern conflict.
UNRWA is a laundering money machine for the powerful, it doesnt help not even one refugee
As a Lebanese, Beirut, and the landscape of Lebanon in the 1970s were different to the state of affairs that govern the city today. While there are some similarities of course, it's the actors that have changed since then. The Palestinians (the PLO) in the 1970's ran specific streets and 'hoods, that you either had to be Palestinian or a an "Allied" Lebanese, or a "local" of that specific area to enter. You were strictly not allowed to enter or pass through, otherwise, you're basically dead. The same rule applied to various 'hood's and areas run by different militia / gang / army leaders, that were based on religious and political alliances. There were armed-checkpoints on the streets that literally checked your identification. If the check-point was Palestinian, and your national ID showed Christian? Yeah you were kidnapped, or shot on the spot. Vice versa in the Phalange/Right-wing controlled areas. If your name was Mohammed, or you came from a Muslim neighborhood/town...you're taken out. Lebanon evolved into a playground of foreign and local militia's to basically have it out on each other in one big free-for-all. We suffered 15 years because of it, and to this day the scars of civil war and sectarianism exist. We are in a financial crisis where our local currency is worth toilet paper, there is massive emigration out of Lebanon, there is no President (and if there is, he's basically a useless puppet), highest refugee per capita IN THE WORLD, and to top it all off we are on the brink of one of the biggest wars with Israel. (by the way fuck Israel). Good times. Can;t wait for this summer.
Yassir Arafat was a self interested person. He was a tool of Tyrants like Saddam, Abdel Nasser and Assad. He participated in Saddams invasions of Kuwait and Iran and he lived a luxurious life in Tunisia.
Abdel Nasser and Assad were no tyrants
Yassir Arafat was never on good terms with Assad . Read about Tal Al Zattar .
@@Ilt08How?
@@Ilt08 how's Taliban rule in Afghanistan? Why did the Tajiks lose against the Pashtuns?
@@intellectualcucumber Pakistan, which supports the Taliban, is very strong and Tajikistan, which supports the resistance, is unfortunately not so strong, although it is a very beautiful country
Great channel man! been bingewatching many vidz about these conflicts to get "educated" as they say... and your is top notch! Good for prime time tv airing, so please can't wait to see more stuff for the future!🙌
Appreciate the kind words, many more vids coming soon!
The entire Muslim world needs to shed that victim mindset
What do they victimise themselves about?
Several years ago, I watched a series of shows on political, ethnic and religious groups in Lebanon, most of which were made in Lebanon. Amongst other items, it featured the various conflicts and alliances. At one point, the Palestinians were allied with the Druze, perhaps others, as well. They sent a delegation to Syria to President Hafez Al-Assad to gain his blessing for a Final Solution to the Christian Problem in Lebanon. Christians were to be exterminated except for those who could escape. Assad's answer was not totally based on humanitarian grounds because a kingmaker needs various factions that are competing with each other to play that role as Syria was playing in Lebanon. Still, he was genuinely shocked because the Al-Assad dynasty had no trouble with killing political opponents, but to kill a whole people on the basis of religion was anathema to it. So, Assad rejected the proposal and told the Palestinians that to exterminate the Lebanese Christians was uncivilized and inhumane. That incident always stuck in my mind both for what it said about the Palestinians and what it said about the Al-Assad regime.
OMG, Palestine's are evils.. not sure why the European people still supporting them...
Actually Christians had most religious freedom in Iraq and Syria. Despite not getting along with each other Asad and Sadam were both Ba'athists. Baathists promoted Arab nationalism and not religion. They also understood how radical Islam was and ruled with an iron fist to keep order. Look what happened in Iraq after the US removed Sadam. Suicide bombers like crazy, civil war. Sat what u want about
"too uncivilized and humane"....you should see what your loving assad is doing to kids in Syria
AH yes the same group that had a Palestinian christian leader wanted to exterminate christians, dont believe me? Read about George habash buddy. My Friend who goes to the west bank since he is Palestinian interacts with Palestinian christian sometimes and there is no hatred on them. some time ago, A Palestinian-American christian who reported on Israeli crimes in the West bank was assasinated by Israel and her death was mourned over by Palestinian christians and Muslims. I know my self more than you know me buddy so stfu.
@@209Richsta ironically most Christians now support baby assad in syria
Step 1: Let an extremist militia (PLO) take over your country.
Step 2: Look on as your own country gets destroyed as a result
Step 3: Enjoy a brief period of peace and learn nothing from past mistakes and let another extremist militia (Hizbollah) take over your country
Step 4: Look on as your own country once again gets completely destroyed as a result.
Step 5: Guess
Or just get rid of that shityy political system and give everyone equal political rights most of those problems will be solved including having secular parties for elections.
Has nothing to do with the political system. Lebanon‘s govt was always too weak to not let any extremist miltias take ground in their country and use it as a base for attacks
It isn't the fault of lebanon, it was still weak at that time it couldn't do much. And now Hezballah controls it due to the Lebanese military barely holding itself a normal soldier gets 40 dollars a month. And not only that they don't get issued weapons they gotta pay for them, Hezballah controls the political system now there hasn't been a president for over 4 or 5 years. I'm lebanese
😂 exactly.
@@Nawabofbengalthat would never work. Islam isnt just a religion - it is an imperialist ideology. There is no separation of religion and state as is the case with Christianity. The problem is that whem you live with too many muslims then even if it isba secular system, they will still push for sharia. Turkey tried to go secular and then eventually they have fallen into the same trap of pushing for a theocracy. Christians in Turkey are treated as second class citizens.
Your documentary has several points of contention. For instance, when Palestinians sought refuge in Lebanon, they arrived with their weapons, significantly impacting the local population, tourism, and the economy. The Palestinians faced limited opportunities compared to the Lebanese, leading to their discontent and subsequent clashes, escalating tensions further. Regrettably, the truth remains that the influx of armed Palestinians into Lebanon had a detrimental effect, outweighing any potential benefits it might have brought.
Stop palesterrorism
Now same happens in turkey with syrians, thousands of illegal afgans and pakistanis...
The palestians came with weapons. Are affected by alcohol ,drugs ,or kind of silly fun .
@@TheMegaaya aneek palesterrorists
Potential benefits,let me list them all: .
Great video! I appreciate the multiple perspectives you give
I appreciate that my guy!
Loving this channel. Great to have a neutral stance on history. Thank you!!
Hikma calls Lebanon civil war "the Biggest Civil War in Middle Eastern History"
Assad: "Hold my beer"...
Yeah It always felt weird when people talk about it like it's ww2
When I can name 10 examples of bloodier civil war in MENA region alone
Than the Lebanese civil war?
@@HikmaHistory While the Lebanese civil war was brutal and did go on for a long time, the participants were mostly using small arms (machine guns, RPG's, ...) and things like car bombs. Nothing ever approached the level of violence where the regime (e.g.Syria) was dropping barrel bombs, leveling entire cities or resorting to chemical weapons when they could get away with it. In terms of people killed, estimates range from 120,000 to 150,000 dead in Lebanon due to the civil war. In Syria, the war is still going on in some areas, and war dead estimates start at 500,00 and go up from there. It terms of the amount of destruction in Syrian cities, dead civilians, and the millions of refugees the war created, I don't think the Lebanese civil war is even a close competitor.
@@banto1 Syria is proxy war not civil war.
@@YouOnUsPath Same as in Lebanon today,
Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran
The intricacies of the "Middle East" in the end- period of Western direct colonialiam are so endlessly fascinating... TBH it's a lot of your channel! Thank you as always
They are and thank you!
Yeah. That’s why places like Pakistan and Brunei are such WONDERFUL places of tolerance and peace, right?
Islamic societies are always wartorn. Its not western colonialism. Its their tribalism and Islamism.
you left comments on? brave. very brave. i salute you, _and wish you luck_
Haha thank you!
As a christian Lebanese, I am well sure that where there are Muslims, there's blood...
Should have known that a long time ago . People are still naive to these Islamist d evils .
ww1
ww2 No muslims start the war
Your Christians and juz have more blood on their hand. Don’t act like you are pious
Saying this while being in the pocket of the French and the Israelis is hilarious.
Tell that to the christians that committed multiple genocides against everyone, and the fact that the places where "there's blood" also include India, Myanmar, China, Russia, Cyprus and Bosnia and Herzegovina, in which the perpetrators weren't the muslims, but instead the people that persecuted them.
I even as an atheist homosexual who flips the bird to the imaginary God/Allah/Hehuwey, I can say to you, to please, remember Sabra and Shatila.
A multi confessional government can actually protect the minority by allocating certain offices to it. Whereas a democracy or similar arrangement could leave the minority out in the cold as described by deTocqueville in Tyranny of the Majority. Regardless, great video that explores a subject of many news reports in my childhood
The modern understanding of a democracy is closely tied in with the concept of human rights. Which by their vary nature allocate equal rights to all demographics, establishing where a space where the minority and majority have equal opportunities and legal protection. I don't know for certain the competency of the Lebanese authority to establish such a state, but from the looks of it there were no real wide spread inadequacies and injusticies. The story however goes the same way as it has a hundred times, the story of islamism and direct disrespect to governance that doesn't allign itself with islamist policy, or better said the policy of individual imam's (cuz they all have their own agendas). Looking at it through a historical lens muslims have done this to whatever region they were onces a minority and swiftly became a majority. Islam is a disease...
Are you aware of any historical examples where it actually worked? Because I have heard about this system being used 3 times, Lebenen , Pre-Break up Yugoslavia and currently in my country, Iraq, obviously since the first two examples went up in flames I am somewhat worried if it will work for us, would be nice to to hear of examples where it worked out great.
@NoorAhmed-nk2jq I would say the Parliamentary system works best as an example when there is a coalition government that includes minority members in the cabinet. A slightly different example is the US Senate with the filibuster protects the rights of the party out of power. I feel that what I am using to illustrate doesn't take into account the tribal or ethnic differences that can lead to insurmountable problems with a coalition as you point out. So in effect my examples may not stand up to direct comparison. I wish you luck
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq All you have to do is look at any freedom index or racial equality list where states are ranked and you will always find western european countries in the top 20. All of which are the best examples of democracies and respect for human rights. Heck they developed human rights in the first place.
@@saxon6 A parliamentary system is a very good example! Take a look at the Netherlands for example, they have by far the most parties present within their parliament and they are absolute bastions of light for humanity. They consistenly rank in the top 5 for any social issue cause and have an amazing track record of respect for human rights, at least in the 21st century.
In any discussion of the middle-east words are important. Calling the PLO in Jordan "a state within a state" can give western minds the idea that the PLO created an independent county for tax purposes. The reality is the PLO, with massive support of the USSR, created their own armed forces (tanks, heavy artillery, massive amount of arms) inside Jordan that went to war with the Jordanian army - trying to take over that country. Jordan fought back and almost lost when Syria decided to help the PLO by crossing into Jordanian territory. Israel forced the Syrians to retreat and Jordan prevailed, expelling the entire PLO army from the country. The PLO reconstituted its army and increased USSR supply of weapons in southern Lebanon (aka Fatahland).
uh the PLO never had tanks lol nor did they try to take over Jordan. They aimed at Israkhara in order to try and get their land back.
You probably did not know that the american airforce lead that war
black september 1970
@@suzannenobel3994Are you for real? Read about black September, get educated a little.
@@fran9201 The USSR was too busy to fight Sunni Islamic extremists in Afghanistan supported by The US, China, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to get involved in another country that wasn't their war, USSR army deployement in Lebanon would have anger Iran and China (who also was supporting Iran) and the Chinese could have responded by sending special forces of the PLA to support The Hezbollah and a great disaster would have occured.
But as peoples of the region, the future is ours. I hope we can forge a way together through the pain and tears.
"He who blames others has a long way to go. He who blames himself is halfway there. He who blames no one has arrived." (Ancient Chinese Proverb)
Wisdom
@@johnkim971he means one has to blame oneself to improve.
@@johnkim971blame others and you won’t improve
I think you should send this to Prince Harry.
Wise words. Lebanon has and continues to blame everyone but themselves for destroying a good thing they had going for themselves. Fact is regardless of the Palestinian presence in Lebanon, the Lebanese are racists amongst themselves and to everyone around them. And they continue to act entitled despite this. It was in no Arab states’ interest whatsoever for Lebanon to rip itself apart on petty sectarian woes. Frankly I have little respect for any movement that’s willing to sell out its own country as means for its own gain like certain factions did when they supported Israel’s invasion in the 80’s.
Greed ruined Lebanon not Palestine
One of my neighbors and best buddies growing up was a Lebanese kid. It's crazy to think this is what his parents got away from.
The PLO didn't cause the Lebanese civil war, but they certainly were an important catalyst for it. The seeds of the civil war were planted by the French when they didn't agree to create multiple sectarian states in Lebanon (that all the Lebanese knew they needed) and opted for a single multi-sectarian dysfunctional state instead.
LOLOL. this is exactly the opposite of what happened. the French divided Greater Syria into sectarian cantons (sunni, alawi, christian, etc.) all these states collapsed following the Syrian revolution, and formed modern Syria. the only except is Lebanon. the majority of Lebanese never wanted multiple sectarian states. this is a not accurate at all. the majority of Lebanese did not identify as separate from those across the new boarders in Syria or Palestine. Lebanese even tried to join the Nasserist state, but the US government sent marines in the 1950s. modern Lebanon only exists because of civil war terrorism and the Israeli invasion.
Lmao did you not watch the video?
@@ffii7773 The history is a little more complicated. During Ottoman times, the Christians had their own autonomous province known as Mount Lebanon, which was created to protect the Christians from their Muslim neighbors. This area was almost totally Christian, with a few pockets of Druze (also hated by the Muslims). When the French arrived, they could have left this province as-is and created a Christian Lebanese state, but they applied their French idea of "nation without religion" and added in large chunks of Sunni and Shiite areas to the north, east and south - doubling the size of Mount Lebanon to create Greater Lebanon. The Christians decided to agree to this as they thought the French would protect them. Bad mistake. When the French left, things went back to normal and Muslims just had to go kill them some Christians. And the rest is history.
@@banto1 The French "nation without religion" never applied to Lebanon, but to secular Syria. Lebanon is the project of the Maronite elite and some of the feudal leaders of other sects who collaborated with the French colonial powers. They embraced the pre-Enlightenment values of tribalism and separation. But because the mutasarrifate of Mount Lebanon was to small to be a real state, they tried to annex non-Christian lands and force them to live in separation from their brethren across the new boarder. the resentment caused by this action was not due to religion as you claim. The civil war was a part of the Cold War, the question of pan-Arabism, and liberation from colonialism.
@@ffii7773 Given that this is the Middle East, multiple narratives (aka historical myths) are the norm. Even your set of Alternative Facts seem to be part of the terrain. My point was that France COULD have created stable sectarian states, but for (enter your favorite myth cause here) reasons, they did the opposite, and we see the results today in both failed states of Lebanon and Syria. France was given the mandate with the EXPLICIT mission of creating stable, viable self-governing entities, and as we can all see today - they failed miserably at the fulfilling this mission. You want to blame the cold war and pan-Arabism for the mess in Lebanon - fine. I put the blame squarely on those who were in charge - The French.
A good lesson on unchecked immigration into the west from certain geographic areas.
I think that lesson will have to be learned first hand
It seems that tribal influences are stronger than Lebanese nationalism. Lebanon should be a prosperous nation.
I'm a Lebanese from Beirut and the short story is :
One group would be the political majority in the country (marounites) where they heald everything for them and would rarely share with others (muslims) so when the Palestinians arrived Muslims got excited that someone is here to better the scale of fairness, but the Muslims weren't aware that these new arrivals were thinking of expansions not 100% fighting against israel.
So an attack here and oppression there we clashed.
If we were founded on the idea that leaders should be in power based on their merits and not their sect or religion then we wouldn't have gone through all this bull**** where I can't have a normal conversation with someone without hearing the same old song that : "we sre all brothers my friend) indicating that they don't have a problem with me instead of talking about daily life or studdie or work or whatever! That statement alone is just a self assurance that the person talking to me makes to feal or make me feal comfortable around hem and it wasn't needed in the first place because I had no intention of action differently because you're sunni or shia or durzi or Marounie or whatever just be your self you are not your parents who slaughtered one another like animals in the name of stupid ideals that have rendered the powerful weak and the weak strong and soon history will repeat it self all over again!
This js the 21st century 2023 you have a smartphone, use it and learn about you fellow countryman or just get your head out of your *** and socialize more with people not of your village, city , Street , religion or sect!
In other words, Arabs being Arabs
@@boomgoesdynamite4177 in other words all this would've been avoided if europeans didn't colonize and teach decision to achieve control
Mind your own dam business
u kill eachother and blame israel lmfao
nothing compared to what the Americans and Europeans did to each other in WW2. 40 million in Europe alone...@@boomgoesdynamite4177
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The PLO may have ignited the civil war in Lebanon, but they were far from the only cause. The tensions were already there, and the PLO was merely the spark that lit the fire. Lebanese society was already fraught with tensions, and it the PLO didn't enter Lebanon, there would certainly be some other outside factor (ex. a civil war in a neighboring country, Islamic fundamentalism funded by Iran, etc.) that could have upset the balance.
Sectarianism is very bad the Middle East, particularly in places like Lebanon
But this goes to a deeper point of why aren’t people just people first and foremost? Religious affiliation is the first thing that has to be taken into account, and then whether they’re Arab or not, and then finally, whether they’re male or female. All these factors make discrimination and persecution ever present in the region, I think at some point it’s not even clear what people are fighting for because once divisions exist conflict never ceases
Muslims and their identity politics ammaright? Christianity and Judaism are pretty well know for their "love thy neighbour" doctorine, can the same be said about islam?
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswagyes
before blaming anyone lebanon/Palestine who is the root cause of all of the prob???
ans:america and creation of israhell.
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswagyes letterly mistreatment of neibgours mean someone is not good muslim. Cook enough food to give your neigbour. The way how good should muslims teat their neigbours made them compare neighbours to family.
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswagIslamic history proves that even minor differences in faith were a cause for violence. They killed the grandsons of Mohammed because they were of the wrong opinion. Islam promotes violent engagement because it does leave a door opinion for violence.
I would say it has to do with neighboring and far away influences from nations like Iran, Israel, and the U.S. When Israel invaded Lebanon and the U.S sent in troops Iran started Hezbollah, which would kick out the U.S and Israel, and has since then only grown in power and influence. Now, a massive extremist militia in a region as unstable as the middle east isn't too safe. There are many factors that played into this but in my opinion this was the big game changer as it attracted the attention of the west, Israel, and Iran, international influence and interests is a catastrophe
Such a terrible situation I’m so sorry to everyone who suffered through this
Save Lebanon from the Palestinian occupation!
After having watched this docco and a few others pertaining to countries in the middle east , I've come to a conclusion that the Palestinians need a home land. It seems that everywhere they go , they feed off the internal secetarian problems to try and push for a cause for a Palestinian nation. I hope Lebanon does recover from the aftermath of past secretarian violence and the recent clashes.
Well they weren’t treated well by Christian’s .. and shia in general .. it was already tensions .. imo it’s mostly Israel behind all this and they used it to invade and they always wanted Lebanon ..
Yea, I'm starting to see them as troublemakers too
WATCHING THIS FILM IM MORE CONFUSED THAN 😕 EVERY CAN,T SEE PEACE AT ANYTIME IN THE FUTURE BUT I PRAY 🙏 🤲
I remember my father saying what an amazing place it was when the war was going on his German business partner built his career there. I guess it was what Dubai now is but more beautiful. You think the war ending would get it back on track but it seems more of a basket case now than ever.
How are what forced the Palestinians to become refugees in Lebanon?
Thank you for all the hard work you do.
I appreciate that Andrew!
Your video just became so much more relevant. Thank you
Humble request to you make videos on Ummayad And Abasside Khilafate
Inshallah in the future
Peaceful innocent people
Lmfao
‘Peaceful’ people who will create a state within a state, stage coups and attempt to overthrow the government in a ‘peaceful’ way, like they did in Jordan 🇯🇴 and Lebanon 🇱🇧 probably even Kuwait 🇰🇼 as well if Iraq stayed there, and if Kuwait weren’t liberated in the Gulf War.
‘Peace loving’ people ✌️
@@inthendwealldie as a jordanian, no they did not do that, jordanians love palestinians and we welcome them with open arms, always, do not speak for me or my people, you are clearly as israeli supporter and are trying to make palestine look bad just for your narrative/ propaganda, may allah guide us and you inshallah, and sorrry for my bad english, its not my first lamguage.
What is poopjet doing here? 🇮🇳 💩
Bullshit
Thank you for your good and informational video. Reduce this complex theme to a christian-muslim minority/majority problem is forgetting, that there were different maronite groups, who fouhgt another and shia, druze and sunni in the same way. The same by the external influence - name only israel is forgetting the syrian, iran and saudi influence and intervention. But sure it is impossible to show all this in few minutes. All the best for all people in this great land, whatever they believe.
Or the anerican fear if communism
4:41 - correction: contrary to popular belief, the confessional distribution of functions within the state is not part of the national pact
Another excellent documentery! Keep it going Hikma!
Thank you! Will do!
From my POV as a maronite, imagine sitting in your land and you see foreign militias setting Checkpoints to stage attacks and taking "protection money" from locals, and you are supposed to just shut up and watch this happening in your own land?
Lebanon was doing okay before why ruin everything? And for what...
They did bad, but you can't rectify bad with bad aka by shaking hands with Zionists
As a Maronite from Israel, I agree. Lebanon was ours.
@@LukaKarra
From Israel and Lebanon is yours !!!
Guess what you won't stay their either for long traitor
@@MhmdBDRDFrance rioters. Go back to Arab countries
Iran has ruined modern-day Lebanon, along with its proxy Hezbollah.
A peace agreement with Israel will be a huge blessing to Lebanon and the region, the Lebanese should wash their hands from the Palestinian aspirations, too many arabs gave up their lives for this foolish cause.
Iran will not allow them to do so, because it enjoys having a private army on the border with Israel, to be Iran's long arm against Israel; hence the problem.
The Lebanese have the same old problem, a foreign army inside Lebanon pointing guns at Israel, pulling Lebanon into a conflict which is not their own.
Interesting topic, and always great to hear about the historiographical debate!
Thanks man!
I always wonder if UNRWAs definition of refugees was and is ruinous.
They literally maintaining the refugees situation and makes it worst
Their definition is only for the sake of Palestinians - UNRWA is only for them their special Palestinian only aid
I'm really enjoying your series on Arab history and especially Lebanon
Sad to say my only two connections to Lebanon are my father who stayed in a kibbutz on the border in the 70s and listened to the two sides shelling each other and my brother in law who was in the IDF in 2006 and invaded the place
These days I try get as much history from the Muslim perspective as I can find, because I got way too much of the Zionist perspective growing up and there's a lot I need to unlearn
I do see critical problems with the way Lebanon was set up (partly the feudal inheritance from Ottoman times and partly the legacy of French colonialism) but Israel has made it all so much worse
1982 might have been a good time to revoke Menachem Begin's nobel peace prize
Between a fight with a savage and a civilised man it is your duty to support the civilised man.
Islam and Sharia is incompatible with freedom of speech and secularism therefore is incompatible with democracy and personal freedoms.
Have a great Day ❤
To be honest being Palestinian myself living in the United States now...... I find it beautiful everything you said I'm going back in history and same here.
I think it's good to learn from history and go back as brothers with no hate moving forward.....we are all humans
I'm also an ex-Zionist. Kudos for posing the right questions and being on the right side of history. Indeed Israel exacerbated an already flawed political system.
@@freedomfighter4446 ta7ia ta7ia Falastin
I think a lot of Palestinians who found refuge in Lebanon were misguided by people like Arafat who was later rumoured to have been honeycombed by Israel over some “not so traditional” photos! Now we can always blame Israel for this or we can accept that Arab leaders aren’t always very forthcoming with their own!
After watching this video, none of this would’ve ever happened had there been no Nakba.
The more I learn, the more I recognize the creation of Israel has completely destabilized the entire region.
So they failure to destroy Israel and integrate Arabs from the british mandate is Israel's fault?
There are 22 Arab countries, but they can't accept only one Jewish country, the only democracy in the region, the only country that respects women rights...
@@luandaachoa3763Because the "Jewish country" is a racist settler-colonial project that kills Palestinians and steals their land, and it gives zero democratic rights to Palestinians in occupied territories, especially women.
Do how Palestinians tried to destroy Jordan! Everywhere they go they rebel.
they would return to palestine with pleasure
@@danielcarvalho1453 this is a zion4z1 you are talking to. Not worth it ^^
@@TheLastGameekanera Zionist has better morals than a jihadi for sure
@@danielcarvalho1453 you can't return to a place that has never in history existed.
@@TheLastGameekaner buy a brain.
Nakba originally meant the failure to destroy Israel. It shifted only in later decades to mean the Arabs who were displaced during the war. The original meaning should be mentioned as it is important for understanding the Arab mindset and motivations.
Wonderful Jewish men can be seen praising the khosher deeds of r@p!ng palestinian girls during their time in Lekhi and during the Naqba in an Israeli documentary called Tantura....the true teachings of the toe-rah being followed by juice....shalom
@@spartawelly5863WHAT DA HAILL
The fuel for the fire’ of the Civil War was built up over decades leading up to its start. The P.L.O. Having been ‘ejected’ from Jordan can be accused of fermenting the War and igniting it, but in my opinion not the underlying responsibility. As an observation, the various factions in Lebanon did not try to prevent it, rather they each tried to take advantage of it. Unfortunately the repercussions of the Civil War lasted after the P.L.O. were exiled to Tunisia. From the depths of despair, hope still remains for the future of a beautiful country.
Multiple videos on this topic and no explicit mention of the Sabra/Shatila massacres is a disservice to the history in the region and to the viewer.
I wanted to say this. Good call.
What about Damour? or all the other massacers?
but lets see, it only counts when its palestinians, right?
1948: Lebanon took in more 150K Sunni Palestinian Refugees? 😳
1967: PLO was to synchronize terrorism
1970: Black September
1969: Armed Fatahland
1975: Muslims vs Christians in Lebanon
1978: Israel invades Lebanon
1982: Israel partners with Christian’s
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1948: Israel expels 750,000 Palestinians from their land
1948 Arab countries expelled 900k jews @@danielcarvalho1453
Of course they did but sectarianism and corruption did not help in immuning the lebanese population against Palestinian interference and influence
RIP Lebanon. A country who was taken over by Islam during our life time. A modern example of what happened in the past. The moment the Muslim population, with the immigration of Palestinians the country was thrown into shambles. These Palestines behaved as if they ruled Lebanon and thus the Christian population began defending themselves from what they considered abuses. So when the PLO ambushed and killed Christian resistance, all hell broke loose.
Actually I'm Lebanese and my father lived in the first village which received the first bomb from Israel in 1967, he passed an entire summer with the PLO and saw from his own eyes the Phalangist were the oned who accepted guns from Israel and started shooting their own people.
I feel bad for the Palestinians.
You people can't catch a break. Between the occupation and your statelessness in those refugee camps. It must be hard to still be happy.
The Palestinians couldn't have asked for better hosts in Jordan. Yet they turned on their generous and sympathetic hosts there and staged an attempted coup!
The Palestinians were treated like royalty in Gaddafi's Libya, too, but then started undermining Gaddafi's government and were expelled for it.
Egypt went to war with Israel four times damaging there already weak economy for Palestinians. Palestinian repay Egypt by killing Egyptian soldiers in Sinai peninsula.
Syrian and Iran helped them by giving aids yet Palestine joins the rebel side during the Syrian civil war.
The Palestinians lived high on the hog in Kuwait, too. But... guess what they then did? Yep! They supported Saddam Hussein's invasion of the country that took them in!
Lebanon also took Palestinians in, and what do the Palestinians do? Turn part of the country into a military base and get it invaded.
The Palestinians have attacked almost every friend they've had in the post-WWII era. Truly, they are a maladapted, ultra-violent people that no one anywhere wants anything to do with, except use them as pawns.
@@schneejacques3502 so by your lies, you want everyone to hate Palestinians?
You're pathetic.
They follow the philosophy of John Lennon "happiness is a warm gun".
The whole point of racism to to make them unhappy. Nasty, hateful. Bad karma
@@banto1 Frankly I can't blame them. If someone gets shoved around too many times they'll be bound to snap someday.
جَزَاكَ ٱللَّٰهُ خَيْرًا
My pleasure!
The issue has and always been a sense of national identity - the populace in its majority don’t have a sense of being Lebanese.
Like many other Muslim countries,
the tribe is much stronger than the flag
@@guyeshel9316 not really - the GCC countries and Jordan for instance have always pushed a “national identity”
Yes, they caused it. They tried taking over Jordan and got kicked out into Lebanon, which eventually fell after Israel left. You'd think the video would mention Black September, at least.
You can’t blame Palestine for israel. Other than that I enjoyed this footage and history.
Very informative as always, thank you
Much appreciated!
Scholarly consensus. Most scholars agree that the Philistines were of Greek origin, and that they came from Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands or, more generally, from the area of modern-day Greece.
Back then, nobody outside the ruling class understood that politics doesn't always sit within black and white definitive stance. Populism and nationalism were "on steroids" and common ppl were expecting decisive victories in every single war and political turmoil. Lebanon was hoping to defeat Israel, only to end up with its own domestic politics and society became fractured and fragmented even further as a result of every single political decisions to accomodate the more militant factions within Lebanese political sphere. If you ask non-Lebanese folks within the OIC member countries about what they hope for Lebanon now, they only care about seeing some Lebanon vs Israel showdown. They don't care about Lebanon's economy struggles after the civil war, how black market economy has starved Lebanon of its much-needed financial sources to stay afloat.
The only viable path forward in Lebanon to manage the different confessions and culture within would be a federalism.
So let me get this straight, first Israel kicks them out because they are too violent. Then Jordan kick them out because they are too violent. Finally they cause a devastating civil war in Lebanon, their PLO leaders get kicked out and sent to Tunisia. Kuwait also kicked them out, under different circumstances.
It kind of reminds me of a certain group of people that got kicked out of over 100 countries.
@@marinblaze who else got kicked out of countries for being violent and starting civil wars?
@@mbsouthflorida I woul not know. The group i am talking about does not use head on violence for achieving their goals. At least outside their country that is.
It's almost like they belong in Palestine
Lebanon, done;
Europe, next 😉
Wimpy video -- trying to put a spin on the damned obvious 😡
Very interesting and informative episode. I’m a happy subscriber
Glad to hear it!
that by far was the best short documentary I have ever watched about this specific topic
I wish the Lebanese put aside their differences and treat each other nicely without shades of racism and fanaticism
Ex eastern orthodox follower from lebanon reverted to islam alhamdulilah
Don’t dear to revert again, they might not forgive you 😅
that's pretty sad
Fake acount
Yes, Palestine ruined Lebanon. Lebanon was a paradise before Palestinians came and ruined it.
@@user-cf6to3pg1b 1943.
This video pretty much proved that it was the fault of the Lebanese political system.
@@waltonsmith7210 Lebanon was the "Switzerland of the East" until they imported the people of the stone age to their territories or offered refuge to these stone age people.
@@thinkie12"stone age people" 😂 The Maronites were living in mountains before the French came and propped them up. Absolute clown.
Correction. It were around 650k refugees, and some fled and were told to leave by arab leaders.
I appreciate your videos always. Here are some ideas for new videos? The clashes you mentioned in the 19th century were very much christian massacres that drove out the christian communities in 1820 and 1860. Both are poorly documented but thousands of Christians clans were forced out of Zahle and mt lebanon. Christians in Lebanon have always been under attack since the Ghassanid tribe controlled the territory. All of which are extremely interesting and intellectual politics. You ever considered a podcast my brother ?? 🤍
Yeah they did.
The biggest civil war in the Middle East? Lebanon civil war killed 150 00, similar to Algeria 1990s, Yemen civil war 2014-22 killed double that.
as a muslim who supports palestine
the comments will be very interesting *sigh*
I wouldn't give those comments much measure, all of this is measured already in the era of AI. For me? Some of the finest people I knew growing up where Palestinian, and more personally the PLO offered up weapons for the humble saints of the IRA. Woulda gotten away with it too, but was probably correctly assessed to be too easily noticed by Israel, and by extension U.S. and U.K. Ireland would rather be a tax haven and bide their time before immediately throwing in with the world's "bad guys".
TLDR; do not despair, there are strange friends from corners not many people think about these days.
@@attemptedunkindness3632
Indeed their are still good based humans like you sir
how come Palestinians use their own people as human shields?
Why doesn't Egypt or Jordan accept them in their country?
@@Kayla-lh5we Because they already had them which caused an assassination attempt in Jordan and a coup in Egypt.
The Palestinians are their own biggest Nakba
Why blame the Palestinians they wouldn't have been ther if it wqant for Israel no one in the world jad a problem with Palestinians before Israel
@@Trilliman707 you don't know the future 😕.. there's a high chance that The Palestine will be in a civil War or instability
@@Shrestha-lv2dn lol deflection that's already happening in Israel
Great video! Could you do a video on Rafic Hariri or how the Fertilizer Explosion has affected Lebanon now?
Thanks. Appreciate your discussion of Lebanese sectarian politics and the Palestinian community there. Lebanon’s sectarian politics and demographics has made it hard to integrate fellow Arabs.
Who would have thought that all those Muslims would cause problems? It's not like history books existed back then.
i agree to this... while other muslim country continue living in peace even they are living as minority they still chose peace than resisting and war... unlike palestinians they continue fighting with israel and when they are in war they invite other countries to join them only led to defeat, losses and death from them.. and treatment to them by israelis becoming more harsh the more they fight with them..
What you said is happening to Australia right now Soon they'll want us to fight Israel with them 🙄
You make things seem simple, oh look, they are Palestinians resisting to prove their existence. How dare they?
You have to understand tho right I mean if someone kicked my grandparents out of there home even I would still be mad about it
Now I see why lebanese shi'a are particularly strong against zionism. I didnt know Israel occupied Lebanon for so long.
Colonialism, ZIONISM did 😂😂😂😂
You speak as though they did not try to destroy Israeli and genocide the Jews.😂
Lebanon was never really a country they looked after sheep I think that was the best ever a Lebanese has done 😂
Lebanon was ok.until palestine caused problems...they seen to be causing problem wherever they go.
So you admit they belong in Palestine
Why don't you help them return to their country then? isn't that what they want, and what everyone wants? Oh, yea Israel stole their country, and where did the Israelis come from? all around the world! So how is that the Palestinians fault?
If there were no Israel there would have been no civil war in Lebanon.
Blame all of the woes of Lebanon on this Israel.
Good job
Interesting subject
Great commentary
Thank you Sheri!
any islamic country with no sufficient natural resources such as saudi arabia uae etc etc and economic advantage turkey is always doomed to fail
No mention of an Israeli OCCUPATION in Lebanon which lasted 2 decades, nor anything about Hezbollah?
Did you watch the video? He said that Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 and pulled out in 2000.
@@tFighterPilot I did watch the video but again, there was no mention or direct use of the word OCCUPATION.
@@tFighterPilot also not mentioning Hezbollah at all is quite careless. That occupation was their inception and a turning point in Lebanon.
@@az6802 "Maintain a presence" isn't good enough for you?
@@tFighterPilot are you joking? Maintain a presence? The legal term is "illegal occupation" lets call a spade a spade. Israel illegally occupier Lebanon for almost 2 decades so no it's not "maintain a presence" but nice try.
7:39 The PLO outright taxed people without permission from Jordan. That would make it a state, as Murray Rothbard defined a state as any entity that can coercively tax people in a given area of land.
Yes, they almost ruined Jordan unless a pakistani general took matters into his own hands and cleaned house.
Pakistani general ?
@@hisham63polaris17 Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq
@@ef2718 I know history of Jordan and most the Middle East very well
may be this general participation in 67 war