Wunderbar! At age 17, a 1959 KR200 was my very first 'car', bought used in Nottingham. I can vouch for the engineering and build quality - it felt very solid. The brakes were something else, as you noticed. They're cable-operated and getting all three to work simultaneously - or at all - was an art I never mastered. It was in this car that I passed that milestone which all new drivers must experience, i.e., overturning it. I did this on a misjudged hairpin bend (those brakes!) in front of a crowd of Yorkshire pub patrons, who were vastly amused when I coolly stepped out, lifted it back on its wheels, and drove on. Happy days?
My way of adjusting the brakes was to partially apply the handbrake (which worked all three wheels), jack the front up and rotate each wheel by hand to judge which cable needed twiddling. Finally release the handbrake to check the brakes weren't binding. Extra fine adjustment could be judged by braking gently, hands off on a flat surface. The back brake didn't do much and got left to it's own devices. It did have a tendency to lift a front wheel as a prelude to overturning but I found that hurtling across the cockpit and hitting the side with my shoulder knocked it back on the road again. Ah! Happy days!
I was driving a van towards Ashbourne in Derbyshire and ended up following 4 of these, quite painful on those lovely, hilly, windy roads but beautiful to see.
This video literally made my day! What a fabulous, bonkers vehicle. Seeing a red one on the way to school every day in the early 60's has left a lasting impression on me :)
I don't have to ride this thing and already got the feel of it, it feel like i was riding with you in that little cabin, your report is spot on and real time, the sound of shifting, engine exhaust, mechanical all there, but its hard to believe that this little three wheeler actually made from the factory which also produced the almighty ME109 and Me262, good job mate.
A pal of mine had one of these. These only needed a provisional motorcycle licence if memory serves, the motor was a single of 200cc capacity made by Sachs in Germany. It was attached to a thing called a Siba Dynastart which took care of the forward/reverse engine rotation and generated battery charging.. with three track lines on the road it was near impossible to steer past/over potholes. The engine was essentially a motorcycle unit, a crude piston ported two stroke single running on petroil mix, and was accordingly a smokey little lump. And full of vibration, and gearbox whines and graunches These were tiring to drive over more than a few miles and not good for your hearing because of high cabin noise. Having shit brakes was unofficially seen as a sort-of safety feature. Kind of like how ABS wasn't, because knowing your ABS brakes were highly efficient it encouraged over fast fast driving: And therefore, more accidents. Crap brakes? Just the opposite. Bubble cars occupied a diminutive sector of the post-WW2 motorcycle market because they could driven on a provisional Qbike driving licence. The more serious end of this market was occupied by Isettas, Bonds, Reliants.
Thank you Ian, I've never driven one of these, did have an Isetta bought second hand about 1967. Had the 300cc engine bored out to maximum, not sure what size it ended up. The Isetta is almost a practical car. The two wheels at the front is so much more stable than the one at the front arrangement.
Passed one of these a few weeks ago, tackling the fearsome Westerham Hill at a steady single digit pace... I on the other hand, carried down hill at speed attempting not to cook my Land Rover's drum brakes..
Had a ride to London as passenger in one of these once Ian. I was at agricultural engineering college at Thame and a friend had one. Drove it around the car park though.
All I can say is ,,,,,,,,,, the little car is very interesting,,,,,,,and what great journalism surrounding the car, It was as if you just "took us all out in it". Many Thanks "Hub Nut",,,,,,,, that was just very "relaxing" and nostalgic to watch.
Very interesting, I'd always wondered how practical and driveable they were. The answer seems to be 'fairly', but also quite fun, judging from this video. The beardcam adds extra wierdness! Cousin Itt from the Addams family, also quite furry, drove a Messerschmitt KR175. An orange one, I think.
Mid 60's, Sheerness Technical High School for Boys, Mr Milliken, a sort of technology teacher, drove one of these. I loved it then and do so still. Thanks for the memories Ian!
LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!! I think we need a new version with Miss Hubnut as co-pilot!! I still can’t believe I missed this one (AND the Trojan which I am about to rectify 😳😳) … I’m actually leaning towards the Isetta as my favourite out of this trio for “fun to drive” points, which I’ll be honest has shocked me! The Messerschmidt it 100% the best looking to me, especially with the completely clear canopy, but fun factor it looks like you had the most fun driving the Isetta … I had genuine joy here watching that whacking great big grin all over your face the entire video! 😁😁🤣 to me THAT is what driving is all about 😁 PLEASE do another with one of these! I am sorry Miss Hubnut, but you would definitely need to go too!!! 🤣🤣🤣 LOVE it Ian, GENUINELY love it!!! Tonight watching these three videos one after the other, is one of THE best things I’ve seen on RUclips for a long long time! I think the only thing that could potentially top this is when … not IF, but WHEN Up ‘n’ Down has his SM back on the road … I’m sorry, but that would defeat anything I’ve ever seen on RUclips!! 🤣
Nice one hubnut. I had a heinkel Ireland 200 which I got up to 60 mph with a carb from a Honda cd 185 benley fitted. Couldn’t afford a kr200 back in the early 80’s.
HubNut. That was fun to watch. I learned to drive in a KR200, many, many year ago when I was a mere lad of 14, zipping around the Hertfordshire country roads. Yeah, bit naughty of me, but you could get away with things like that back in the 1970s. The car was actually owned by a friend's older brother. He had two KR200s and a KG500. Sometimes we'd tear around a field at the back of my friend's house, wearing old flying goggles and pretend we were in a WW2 dogfight. Daft, but great fun all the same. It was delightful to see you enjoy your first ride. It's something you'll never forget. If they ever remade them, I'd buy one.
Way back in the mid 1980's a friend was demonstrating his FAC Webley Vulcan 0.22" (5.56mm.) air rifle by firing a Prometheus stainless steel nylon sleeved shot through a very large empty paint can hung on the inside of his garage door. He shot the can and it went into the can..... through the other side and through the thick steel door. Looking through the holes they lined up with a parked KR200 over 150 yards away parked against the kerb in the road. We sauntered over and walked past. In the right rear flank was non-OEM 0.22" additional hole. Now my friend was from Yorkshire so once in a while, years later, he'd come out with, in a Yorkshire accent, "Lemme tell you about t'time I shot t' Messerschmitt with t'air rifle". Listeners would imagine a Yorkshire AA battery armed with an air rifle shooting at German aircraft (Plus the customary Yorkshireman, "Cos times t'were hard back then we were so poor that we didn't have t'anti-aircraft guns in them days", etc.). They were usually underwhelmed by the fact that he's only shot a KR200 by accident. If whoever has this KR200 has always wondered where the bullet hole in the right side came from, the mystery has been solved.
Absolutely Loved Your Drive In The Messerschmitt KR 200 Cabriolet! What A Wonderfull Little Micro Car! Always Wondered How They Drove! Now I Know! I Guess A Similar Bond Minicar Experience! With The Sequential Motorcycle Gearbox! And So Cute To!! Fantastic Video Ian!!!!!
Outstanding fun and enjoyment with less than 10 bhp, as a motorcyclist I'm used to a sequencial gearbox that does not mean I could drive the Messerschmitt though . ( my motorcycle has 6 times the capacity and 9 times the bhp but I get wet when it rains)
I first saw one of these during a Wheeler Dealer episode when Edd did a beautiful job restoring it. I wouldn't have the balls to drive one of them on the public roads as you have little to no protection if someone else hit you. Awesome drive along!
Loved this, just came across it, not sure if we mentioned this with the Heinkel bubble car, but it must be applauded your skill at driving just about anything , no matter how strange, hats off to you. This kind of micro car = terrifying
The little lever on the gearstick is a neutral selector; when changing down pull the lever for a neutral below the gear you are in then it will go down smoothly into the next lower gear. Think of it as double de-clutching made easy.
I really really want one of these. Here in Toronto Canada are used to work with an old gentleman who was just a boy during World War II and when he immigrated to Canada he had one of these in Canada having had it shipped from Germany. I just can't imagine. But I still want one!!
2022,.....Great video! Thoroughly enjoyable. I've wanted one for years,....I drove a Honda 150cc, scooter for 33 years,...a 1985 Honda Elite 150cc,...referred to as "twist and go", no shifting and it was a blast, it had a water cooled engine and was capable of going 65 MPH. With its tiny wheels, it was rather terrifying to drive it on the highway, but I did try it a few times when it was brand new, in 1985 and I was only 30 years old. I'm 68 now, and (they) stopped making the repair parts, and it finally pooped out in 2019. The young kids on the Internet are repairing them from salvaged parts, found at swap meets. At age 68,...I'm not sure I want to buy another one,..though even in 2022, new versions are available. Still fairly inexpensive,...I think my 1985 model cost around $2,000.00, brand new. Newer ones today cost more,...Between $2,500.00 to $4,000.00. I'm in the USA. Very well,..thanks.
I used to own two Messerschmitts which I was restoring. Unfortunately neither ever made it on to the roads. I still have the owners manual and workshop manual. In the 1960s they were still being used as daily drivers and you could pick one up for very little money. Nowadays, they are sought-after collectors items and worth as much as a used Rolls-Royce.
Ahh memories of "riding" pillion in my cousins come flooding back. The cold sweat and white nuckles... And in his case yes it was a Fokker ... Christ you are brave Ian, first an Invacar now this.
Nicely done, I thought you handled that well for a first drive, it looked to me like a bit of a sensory overload. I'd be tempted to pop a 500cc Yamaha scooter engine in it though. Just for fun mind you.
Just love the way the 'canopy' swings up to the right, just like its wartime 'stablemate' that flew... the Messerschmitt Bf 109. Hard to imagine the factory where these little beauties were made in the 50s at Regensburg turned out fighters for the Luftwaffe. A dramatic and peaceful alternative.
A cool blast going down the road with you Ian. Best look I ever seen Of a fascinating auto. I was always curious about them. How I wish they sold them here. I guess the insurance compines saw to many dangers to their companies. I have seen a few adverts for classic collectable Messershimts. Also its the car of choice for Cousin "IT" in the Adams family movies and tv shows. Great to enjoy such a close up look at one, Brilliant Video! Your fans Richard&Sue-way Cat. From LA.USA. 🇺🇸
The reverse was by means of a Siba Dynastart, which, as you say spun the engine in reverse. It was a generator/starter motor which sat on the end of the crankshaft. Very ingenious!
Back in the late '50s and early '60s my mum was a nurse in London. One day when she was on rotation with the ambulance crews she attended a Messerschmitt versus lorry. Most of a Messerschmitt will go under a lorry without problem, however the canopy and occupants' head and shoulders don't. The results were, well, messy...
Another top video, love the detailed description of the braking capabilities of the car whilst secretly praying it would slow down enough to take the corner . Looked a lot of fun to drive though .
Now that was cool, you lucky man! I would love to have a go at driving one. What a clever idea with the seat. I've always like the myth about the canopies and the hope that one may of come from a WW2 fighter! Great video 👍
Das Audi Auto "inventing" old tractor tech for the uber kool with a "K" hip trendy window (tinted) licking volk with a "V" that enjoy over long Teutonic techno "sprechen", news on the "Neu" MK XXVI Kettenkrad (Q 0.8 Half Road) is wunderbar now the team behind the A2 taken from ze bunker and shot. Mods for the U S of A none "stick" and front brake done the auto turn right (far far right) stomp over Poland to old Mother Russia glitch be overcome by the eastern seaboard ...Will HubNut master one ?
Neutral is selected by pulling the small lever at the top of the gearstick, there is no neutral between 1st and 2nd like a motorbike. My first car was a Messerschmitt KR200 in 1976.
Every time a car passed opposite I winced, the windscreen gives a strange perspective so from your shoulder cam they all looked like head on collision until the last second
I remember following one of these years back and tinking it would be fun to drive one.Then it hit a slightly sunken drain grid,bounced up and only became contollable again seconds before heading into oncoming traffic.At that point,i changed my mind
Quite frightening looking up at all those large chunks of metal whilst they speed past you coming from the other direction! Beard came does a great job of putting us in the drivers seat. Looks like a lot of fun to drive, albeit rather scary at times. :-)
I see you made it to Alderley Edge, where on any day you can see a parade of expensive sports cars posing on the high street. You turned around just before the village - shame, it would have been fun to see the Messerschmitt parked next to an Aston Martin or Tesla.
Fendt is actually written with dt. They are still there and make some quite good diesel tractors. They are also renown for their high end upmarket caravans.
I don't think it's too bad. Near as I can read, the top mark on the voltmeter is 14. Modern cars tend to be set up to 14.4V. Granted, modern ones have temperature sensors and so have lower voltages in the summer. But old-style mechanical voltage regulators for generators tend to be set for a higher endpoint voltage when they're not charging at all, so that they still have reasonable voltage when they're under heavy load. I base this on my 1972 VW which has its original 30A generator and original mechanical voltage regulator. When driving at highway speeds without any of the lights on, the generator runs at about 14.9V. On the other hand, when that these cars were new, people had flooded batteries that they regularly checked the levels in and added fluid. So perhaps then mild overvolting wasn't as bad, because you regularly replenished the water. But as you say, a system like that with a modern sealed battery might well shorten its life. So--good point. I don't know that the battery is cooking but it might well be shortening its life (as compared to a more modern car).
Exelente, muy buen video, en mi familia un primo tuvo uno, aún ando rastreando a dónde fué a dar, otro amigo aún conserva uno en su casa, espero volver a ver pronto, felicitaciones !!!
I owned two of these but could never get either one running properly. No mechanics have any idea how to work on them or where to get parts. These cars now go for a small fortune and are almost impossible to obtain since no-one who has one wants to part with it. Parts are available from the owner's clubs in the UK or Germany, but you have to be your own mechanic.
This looks terrifying, even more lethal than Twc! Noticed a base spec Dacia Sandero parked by some tents, can I annoyingly request a review and comparison to the Mighty Dacia please?
Of the three "iconic" microcars, the Messerschmitt, the Heinkel, and the Isetta, the Messerschmitt is easily the best in my view. Tandem seating ensures much more stability. Lovely little things. Wish I had one...
My mum only had a motorcycle licence so we had many different 3 wheelers in the late 50's early 60's the best being a kr175 which she used to take my sister and me to school in [most of the other kids thought we were weird - which we were] !!!
The TG500 was actually a very successful racing car in its time. Of course, having 4 wheels did rather help, although the rest took the Morgan trike format of two wheels at the front and one at the rear apparently they were still inclined to fall over more easily than a lot of drivers realised...
Great video,i don't whats more scary to drive the Messerschmitt or TWC LOL,its not easy the gearbox but you get used to it pulls very well on the road.
There was something about the frontal appearance of these cars that scared me rigid as a kid... 1-N-2-3-4 does sound like your typical motorbike gearbox. That voltmeter also seemed to be going off the scale, which is a bit troubling. Also... I'd expect to see a 'neutral' warning light, like on a motorbike.
In the 1960s it was only Japanese motorbikes that had neutral warning lights. I have ridden a 1990s Royal Enfield that did not have one. Even where there is one it only works on the proper neutral, not on the other neutrals that you can sometimes accidentally find between the higher gears.
I could handle a Eutopian society that has those in production, no big highway wrecks just a few bumps and a whole lot of apologizing, I can imagine the canopy is pricey to replace, and thanks of dispelling the myth about the dual use canopy.
Another revist. Just thought I'd say I'm going to try make the NEC this year. I have a Citroën themed stainglass Panel I've been meaning to present to you pre covid. I also will make a donation it's just I don't trust transactions over the net so I'll pay in person. Plus, I'll join maby also treat myself to a sticker and a mug. I hope I can make it. Struggling artist 😊 and car to get thru MOT. A guy who lives a couple Towns away ownes two. O had a run in one.....I love my mini van. 😊
It's pouring rain here in B.C.and the British Motorcycle Club is going up the "Sunshine Coast" (more like Rainshine) tomorrow. I'd much rather do it in that covered scooter!
If it is a standard motorcycle style gearbox it should pass neutral in one firm action and find neutral with a softer press . If it is finding neutral when you don't desire neutral ,it probably has a dragging clutch or some other misadjustment.
Back in the early 60s there was still a shortage of affordable and economical-to-run cars. Motorcycles were not so good for regular trips to work if you didn't want to get cold and wet, or ride over ice and snow - so these little three wheelers found a niche in the UK for a few years until more modern used small cars like the Mini came along.
@@HubNut If you want to be safe, buy a Challenger 2 tank! Bring back small city cars, proper micro cars, with modern brakes and engines and weighing 300kg. Similar to the Renault Twizzy, but with a tiny, two cylinder petrol engine like the Fiat Twinair.
Wunderbar! At age 17, a 1959 KR200 was my very first 'car', bought used in Nottingham. I can vouch for the engineering and build quality - it felt very solid. The brakes were something else, as you noticed. They're cable-operated and getting all three to work simultaneously - or at all - was an art I never mastered. It was in this car that I passed that milestone which all new drivers must experience, i.e., overturning it. I did this on a misjudged hairpin bend (those brakes!) in front of a crowd of Yorkshire pub patrons, who were vastly amused when I coolly stepped out, lifted it back on its wheels, and drove on. Happy days?
My way of adjusting the brakes was to partially apply the handbrake (which worked all three wheels), jack the front up and rotate each wheel by hand to judge which cable needed twiddling. Finally release the handbrake to check the brakes weren't binding. Extra fine adjustment could be judged by braking gently, hands off on a flat surface. The back brake didn't do much and got left to it's own devices.
It did have a tendency to lift a front wheel as a prelude to overturning but I found that hurtling across the cockpit and hitting the side with my shoulder knocked it back on the road again.
Ah! Happy days!
@@naajohnnorthcott8267 Wish I'd known that hack at the time !
You lucky man getting to drive that lovely classic , Thanks for taking us along for the drive
You should watch out for Triumph Spitfires while driving that thing.
Nein zose fokkers were Hurricanes!
@TheGolden Hour The Me262 was the first practical fighter jet, though the Heinkel 178 is the first flying jet plane.
Ja Kooistra Though, at first, the engines made by BMW used to overheat and explode but it was okay once they were replaced by Junkers engines.
Carole Ramsey Eight of them perhaps?
And Armstrong-Siddley Typhoon's
So your feet are first to arrive at the scene of the accident. Great vehicle! Enjoyed your review.
I was driving a van towards Ashbourne in Derbyshire and ended up following 4 of these, quite painful on those lovely, hilly, windy roads but beautiful to see.
This video literally made my day! What a fabulous, bonkers vehicle. Seeing a red one on the way to school every day in the early 60's has left a lasting impression on me :)
I don't have to ride this thing and already got the feel of it, it feel like i was riding with you in that little cabin, your report is spot on and real time, the sound of shifting, engine exhaust, mechanical all there, but its hard to believe that this little three wheeler actually made from the factory which also produced the almighty ME109 and Me262, good job mate.
Something to be said for minimalist transportation. Wish there was more of it to be had.
Big thumbs up Mr HubNut! Fantastic ride, must be quite a thrill to pilot one of those, thanks .
I have a vision of Ian in leather flying helmet and goggles I can't get out of my mind now you mentioned "pilot"
Your screams of fear and agony while cornering made this one of the funniest videos I've seen in some time.
I must admit to some envy here. I've long been fascinated by the Messerschmidt. Thanks for the ride!
A pal of mine had one of these. These only needed a provisional motorcycle licence if memory serves, the motor was a single of 200cc capacity made by Sachs in Germany. It was attached to a thing called a Siba Dynastart which took care of the forward/reverse engine rotation and generated battery charging.. with three track lines on the road it was near impossible to steer past/over potholes. The engine was essentially a motorcycle unit, a crude piston ported two stroke single running on petroil mix, and was accordingly a smokey little lump. And full of vibration, and gearbox whines and graunches
These were tiring to drive over more than a few miles and not good for your hearing because of high cabin noise.
Having shit brakes was unofficially seen as a sort-of safety feature. Kind of like how ABS wasn't, because knowing your ABS brakes were highly efficient it encouraged over fast fast driving: And therefore, more accidents. Crap brakes? Just the opposite.
Bubble cars occupied a diminutive sector of the post-WW2 motorcycle market because they could driven on a provisional Qbike driving licence. The more serious end of this market was occupied by Isettas, Bonds, Reliants.
Thank you Ian, I've never driven one of these, did have an Isetta bought second hand about 1967. Had the 300cc engine bored out to maximum, not sure what size it ended up. The Isetta is almost a practical car. The two wheels at the front is so much more stable than the one at the front arrangement.
It certainly has a cuteness about it. I'd love one, but the steep hills in the suburbs here in New Zealand (Dunedin) would likely kill it.
2:14 in vid: When you have to look UP to a 2CV door handles, you know you are in micro-car
Passed one of these a few weeks ago, tackling the fearsome Westerham Hill at a steady single digit pace... I on the other hand, carried down hill at speed attempting not to cook my Land Rover's drum brakes..
Had a ride to London as passenger in one of these once Ian. I was at agricultural engineering college at Thame and a friend had one. Drove it around the car park though.
All I can say is ,,,,,,,,,, the little car is very interesting,,,,,,,and what great journalism surrounding the car,
It was as if you just "took us all out in it". Many Thanks "Hub Nut",,,,,,,, that was just very "relaxing" and nostalgic to watch.
Very interesting, I'd always wondered how practical and driveable they were. The answer seems to be 'fairly', but also quite fun, judging from this video. The beardcam adds extra wierdness! Cousin Itt from the Addams family, also quite furry, drove a Messerschmitt KR175. An orange one, I think.
That looked scary but great fun too! Can't believe it has rear seats aswell.
Well, that was fun. "Interesting?" Yeah! That's what you wants breaks to do in an emergency. Thanks for showing it!
Mid 60's, Sheerness Technical High School for Boys, Mr Milliken, a sort of technology teacher, drove one of these. I loved it then and do so still. Thanks for the memories Ian!
LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!! I think we need a new version with Miss Hubnut as co-pilot!! I still can’t believe I missed this one (AND the Trojan which I am about to rectify 😳😳) … I’m actually leaning towards the Isetta as my favourite out of this trio for “fun to drive” points, which I’ll be honest has shocked me! The Messerschmidt it 100% the best looking to me, especially with the completely clear canopy, but fun factor it looks like you had the most fun driving the Isetta … I had genuine joy here watching that whacking great big grin all over your face the entire video! 😁😁🤣 to me THAT is what driving is all about 😁 PLEASE do another with one of these! I am sorry Miss Hubnut, but you would definitely need to go too!!! 🤣🤣🤣
LOVE it Ian, GENUINELY love it!!! Tonight watching these three videos one after the other, is one of THE best things I’ve seen on RUclips for a long long time! I think the only thing that could potentially top this is when … not IF, but WHEN Up ‘n’ Down has his SM back on the road … I’m sorry, but that would defeat anything I’ve ever seen on RUclips!! 🤣
Great work Ian. Really enjoyed your road test. Yes, I do need to adjust the brakes!
Thanks ever so much for allowing me to drive it. What is the lever on the gearstick for by the way?
That little lever is the neutral selector. It drops into neutral from any gear. Handy at traffic lights.
Nice one hubnut. I had a heinkel Ireland 200 which I got up to 60 mph with a carb from a Honda cd 185 benley fitted. Couldn’t afford a kr200 back in the early 80’s.
HubNut. That was fun to watch. I learned to drive in a KR200, many, many year ago when I was a mere lad of 14, zipping around the Hertfordshire country roads. Yeah, bit naughty of me, but you could get away with things like that back in the 1970s. The car was actually owned by a friend's older brother. He had two KR200s and a KG500. Sometimes we'd tear around a field at the back of my friend's house, wearing old flying goggles and pretend we were in a WW2 dogfight. Daft, but great fun all the same. It was delightful to see you enjoy your first ride. It's something you'll never forget. If they ever remade them, I'd buy one.
There have been a few attempts to remake them, but sadly none of the schemes has lasted long.
I enjoyed this test drive. It is surprisingly quiet. Thanks for sharing the experience Ian 😀
They aren't quiet. Believe me!
I'd say you're "schmitten" with it:-)
Way back in the mid 1980's a friend was demonstrating his FAC Webley Vulcan 0.22" (5.56mm.) air rifle by firing a Prometheus stainless steel nylon sleeved shot through a very large empty paint can hung on the inside of his garage door. He shot the can and it went into the can..... through the other side and through the thick steel door. Looking through the holes they lined up with a parked KR200 over 150 yards away parked against the kerb in the road. We sauntered over and walked past. In the right rear flank was non-OEM 0.22" additional hole.
Now my friend was from Yorkshire so once in a while, years later, he'd come out with, in a Yorkshire accent, "Lemme tell you about t'time I shot t' Messerschmitt with t'air rifle". Listeners would imagine a Yorkshire AA battery armed with an air rifle shooting at German aircraft (Plus the customary Yorkshireman, "Cos times t'were hard back then we were so poor that we didn't have t'anti-aircraft guns in them days", etc.). They were usually underwhelmed by the fact that he's only shot a KR200 by accident.
If whoever has this KR200 has always wondered where the bullet hole in the right side came from, the mystery has been solved.
Absolutely Loved Your Drive In The Messerschmitt KR 200 Cabriolet! What A Wonderfull Little Micro Car! Always Wondered How They Drove! Now I Know! I Guess A Similar Bond Minicar Experience! With The Sequential Motorcycle Gearbox! And So Cute To!! Fantastic Video Ian!!!!!
Flying a Messerschmitt in a dogfight : good idea!
Driving a Messerschmitt in a dogfight : bad idea!
Outstanding fun and enjoyment with less than 10 bhp, as a motorcyclist I'm used to a sequencial gearbox that does not mean I could drive the Messerschmitt though . ( my motorcycle has 6 times the capacity and 9 times the bhp but I get wet when it rains)
You must have balls of steel my friend. Looks absolutely terrifying! Love and peace.
I first saw one of these during a Wheeler Dealer episode when Edd did a beautiful job restoring it. I wouldn't have the balls to drive one of them on the public roads as you have little to no protection if someone else hit you. Awesome drive along!
Not any worse than a motorbike I'd say.
Loved this, just came across it, not sure if we mentioned this with the Heinkel bubble car, but it must be applauded your skill at driving just about anything , no matter how strange, hats off to you. This kind of micro car = terrifying
Perfectly terrifying. I hear the BBC will be broadcasting the Wimbledon finals in beard vision next year. Cutbacks cutbacks.
The little lever on the gearstick is a neutral selector; when changing down pull the lever for a neutral below the gear you are in then it will go down smoothly into the next lower gear. Think of it as double de-clutching made easy.
I really really want one of these. Here in Toronto Canada are used to work with an old gentleman who was just a boy during World War II and when he immigrated to Canada he had one of these in Canada having had it shipped from Germany. I just can't imagine. But I still want one!!
Hi Ian back in the 50@60,s i remember in our green there being a Reliant van -Meshersmit -Isetta various Ford Zephers ,Yummy.
2022,.....Great video! Thoroughly enjoyable. I've wanted one for years,....I drove a Honda 150cc, scooter for 33 years,...a 1985 Honda Elite 150cc,...referred to as "twist and go", no shifting and it was a blast, it had a water cooled engine and was capable of going 65 MPH. With its tiny wheels, it was rather terrifying to drive it on the highway, but I did try it a few times when it was brand new, in 1985 and I was only 30 years old. I'm 68 now, and (they) stopped making the repair parts, and it finally pooped out in 2019. The young kids on the Internet are repairing them from salvaged parts, found at swap meets. At age 68,...I'm not sure I want to buy another one,..though even in 2022, new versions are available. Still fairly inexpensive,...I think my 1985 model cost around $2,000.00, brand new. Newer ones today cost more,...Between $2,500.00 to $4,000.00. I'm in the USA. Very well,..thanks.
What a beautiful little thing, loving beard cam 😂
I used to own two Messerschmitts which I was restoring. Unfortunately neither ever made it on to the roads. I still have the owners manual and workshop manual. In the 1960s they were still being used as daily drivers and you could pick one up for very little money. Nowadays, they are sought-after collectors items and worth as much as a used Rolls-Royce.
Ahh memories of "riding" pillion in my cousins come flooding back. The cold sweat and white nuckles... And in his case yes it was a Fokker ... Christ you are brave Ian, first an Invacar now this.
Nicely done, I thought you handled that well for a first drive, it looked to me like a bit of a sensory overload. I'd be tempted to pop a 500cc Yamaha scooter engine in it though. Just for fun mind you.
They did build some with 500 cc twin cylinder engines, and 4 wheels--very very fast !
Just love the way the 'canopy' swings up to the right, just like its wartime 'stablemate' that flew... the Messerschmitt Bf 109. Hard to imagine the factory where these little beauties were made in the 50s at Regensburg turned out fighters for the Luftwaffe. A dramatic and peaceful alternative.
A cool blast going down the road with you Ian. Best look I ever seen
Of a fascinating auto. I was always
curious about them. How I wish they sold them here. I guess the insurance compines saw to many dangers to their companies.
I have seen a few adverts for classic collectable Messershimts. Also its the car of choice for Cousin "IT" in the Adams family movies and tv shows. Great to enjoy such a close up look at one, Brilliant Video!
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There was one in 'Brazil', too.
The reverse was by means of a Siba Dynastart, which, as you say spun the engine in reverse. It was a generator/starter motor which sat on the end of the crankshaft. Very ingenious!
They came with either a Siba Dynastart or a Bosch Dynastart and they were not interchangeable.
Excellent road test, looks like heaps of fun and I guess lot's of waving lol 😁😎👍😊
Back in the late '50s and early '60s my mum was a nurse in London. One day when she was on rotation with the ambulance crews she attended a Messerschmitt versus lorry. Most of a Messerschmitt will go under a lorry without problem, however the canopy and occupants' head and shoulders don't. The results were, well, messy...
Another top video, love the detailed description of the braking capabilities of the car whilst secretly praying it would slow down enough to take the corner . Looked a lot of fun to drive though .
Now that was cool, you lucky man! I would love to have a go at driving one. What a clever idea with the seat. I've always like the myth about the canopies and the hope that one may of come from a WW2 fighter! Great video 👍
Most tiptronic gearboxes such as those from Audi, Porsche et al are actually sequential when in manual shift mode this beastie was ahead of its time.
Das Audi Auto "inventing" old tractor tech for the uber kool with a "K" hip trendy window (tinted) licking volk with a "V" that enjoy over long Teutonic techno "sprechen", news on the "Neu" MK XXVI Kettenkrad (Q 0.8 Half Road) is wunderbar now the team behind the A2 taken from ze bunker and shot. Mods for the U S of A none "stick" and front brake done the auto turn right (far far right) stomp over Poland to old Mother Russia glitch be overcome by the eastern seaboard ...Will HubNut master one ?
Neutral is selected by pulling the small lever at the top of the gearstick, there is no neutral between 1st and 2nd like a motorbike. My first car was a Messerschmitt KR200 in 1976.
Every time a car passed opposite I winced, the windscreen gives a strange perspective so from your shoulder cam they all looked like head on collision until the last second
I remember following one of these years back and tinking it would be fun to drive one.Then it hit a slightly sunken drain grid,bounced up and only became contollable again seconds before heading into oncoming traffic.At that point,i changed my mind
Quite frightening looking up at all those large chunks of metal whilst they speed past you coming from the other direction! Beard came does a great job of putting us in the drivers seat. Looks like a lot of fun to drive, albeit rather scary at times. :-)
It would be lovely to see an updated electric version of this, so all the goodness without the engine racket
The Citroen Ami is evidently noisy by modern standards
Nowhere to put batteries!
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Of course there is. And you don't need so many because it's a very light vehicle.
Blimey! what a lovely car made me jump on Wiki to find out more, Very well driven Ian
Which button operates the machine guns ?
Wunderbar, herr Achsmutter!
You are a brave man
Good camera positioning. Great view.
Thanks. It was a struggle, as the side windows are not very secure!
@@HubNut You've ended up with the right balance of inside & outside view.
I remember these cars so well.... this is real fun. My mother had a friend with a BMW 700 if I'm right :)
HubNut actually the BMW Isette is about the same as this tiny one :)
I see you made it to Alderley Edge, where on any day you can see a parade of expensive sports cars posing on the high street. You turned around just before the village - shame, it would have been fun to see the Messerschmitt parked next to an Aston Martin or Tesla.
Loving your videos - I'm a big fan of French cars and 50s bubble cars!
I think your very brave risking life and limb to keep people like me entertained and I am well entertained too.
Amazing driving position on a Messerschmitt KR200!
Fendt is actually written with dt.
They are still there and make some quite good diesel tractors.
They are also renown for their high end upmarket caravans.
Different Fend. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Fend
That makes twc look powerful and luxurious ! I’d be sweating on the open road in that !
The rearward Visibility is a noteable Improvement over the Previous BF 109 Modell.
Excellent car! Voltmeter looks a bit 70s and the reading throughout suggests it's cooking the battery!
I don't think it's too bad. Near as I can read, the top mark on the voltmeter is 14. Modern cars tend to be set up to 14.4V. Granted, modern ones have temperature sensors and so have lower voltages in the summer.
But old-style mechanical voltage regulators for generators tend to be set for a higher endpoint voltage when they're not charging at all, so that they still have reasonable voltage when they're under heavy load. I base this on my 1972 VW which has its original 30A generator and original mechanical voltage regulator. When driving at highway speeds without any of the lights on, the generator runs at about 14.9V.
On the other hand, when that these cars were new, people had flooded batteries that they regularly checked the levels in and added fluid. So perhaps then mild overvolting wasn't as bad, because you regularly replenished the water. But as you say, a system like that with a modern sealed battery might well shorten its life.
So--good point. I don't know that the battery is cooking but it might well be shortening its life (as compared to a more modern car).
Hi Ian another good road test what a interesting little car
I have always wondered what they were like! Great vid!
Exelente, muy buen video, en mi familia un primo tuvo uno, aún ando rastreando a dónde fué a dar, otro amigo aún conserva uno en su casa, espero volver a ver pronto, felicitaciones !!!
Given its age, as in older than you or I, and I was born when Eisenhower was US Pres, it's doing rather well! Good one!
In the late 1950s, a police constable living near us in Oldham had one. Other neighbor had a Bond 2 wheeler with the engine on the single front wheel.
Bond Minicar coming soon!
well another brilliant video ian,you are racking up those bravery awards,are you a born again fighter pilot?
Awesome, and thank you very much for sharing this Sir 👍 Tam.
I've wanted one of those since I was a little kid. What's the lever on the gearstick for?
I have absolutely no idea.
Why is there a 'big' tax disc holder blocking some of the windscreen? didn't we throw them away a few years ago?
I had the chance to drive one of those around when I was living in Chile back in the early seventies
I owned two of these but could never get either one running properly. No mechanics have any idea how to work on them or where to get parts. These cars now go for a small fortune and are almost impossible to obtain since no-one who has one wants to part with it. Parts are available from the owner's clubs in the UK or Germany, but you have to be your own mechanic.
This looks terrifying, even more lethal than Twc!
Noticed a base spec Dacia Sandero parked by some tents, can I annoyingly request a review and comparison to the Mighty Dacia please?
I'm trying to arrange that!
Of the three "iconic" microcars, the Messerschmitt, the Heinkel, and the Isetta, the Messerschmitt is easily the best in my view. Tandem seating ensures much more stability. Lovely little things. Wish I had one...
My mum only had a motorcycle licence so we had many different 3 wheelers in the late 50's early 60's the best being a kr175 which she used to take my sister and me to school in [most of the other kids thought we were weird - which we were] !!!
The TG500 was actually a very successful racing car in its time. Of course, having 4 wheels did rather help, although the rest took the Morgan trike format of two wheels at the front and one at the rear apparently they were still inclined to fall over more easily than a lot of drivers realised...
I've seen a Morgan very nearly fall over. Three wheels is never a recipe for stability.
I got over 80 out of mine going downhill between Sherborne and Yeovil. I used to imagine firing a burst of machine Gunfire at Spitfires!
Great video,i don't whats more scary to drive the Messerschmitt or TWC LOL,its not easy the gearbox but you get used to it pulls very well on the road.
Makes TWC look the size of a people carrier. Colour co-ordinated with the invacar too! :-)
There was something about the frontal appearance of these cars that scared me rigid as a kid... 1-N-2-3-4 does sound like your typical motorbike gearbox. That voltmeter also seemed to be going off the scale, which is a bit troubling. Also... I'd expect to see a 'neutral' warning light, like on a motorbike.
In the 1960s it was only Japanese motorbikes that had neutral warning lights. I have ridden a 1990s Royal Enfield that did not have one. Even where there is one it only works on the proper neutral, not on the other neutrals that you can sometimes accidentally find between the higher gears.
Elly's long lost love-child! Thanks for the vid
I followed one of these in my 1956 Ford Fairlane late one night.Hope I didn't scare him.!
I could handle a Eutopian society that has those in production, no big highway wrecks just a few bumps and a whole lot of apologizing, I can imagine the canopy is pricey to replace, and thanks of dispelling the myth about the dual use canopy.
When Edd China did a Messerschmitt I believe the canopy acrylic not cut down to size was approx £900.
Tremendous fun. Did it remind you of the very first time you drove, probably in some old banger on a farm track?
First time I drove a car, it was a Land Rover Discovery prototype at Eastnor Castle. Which was nice! This was not like that.
Another revist. Just thought I'd say I'm going to try make the NEC this year. I have a Citroën themed stainglass Panel I've been meaning to present to you pre covid. I also will make a donation it's just I don't trust transactions over the net so I'll pay in person. Plus, I'll join maby also treat myself to a sticker and a mug.
I hope I can make it. Struggling artist 😊 and car to get thru MOT.
A guy who lives a couple Towns away ownes two. O had a run in one.....I love my mini van. 😊
It's pouring rain here in B.C.and the British Motorcycle Club is going up the "Sunshine Coast" (more like Rainshine) tomorrow. I'd much rather do it in that covered scooter!
Sweet... and more than a little scary too. Very impressive. It's got me wondering where you find tyres to fit an 8" wheel, though...
Garden center?
Tires are available through the owner's club.
If it is a standard motorcycle style gearbox it should pass neutral in one firm action and find neutral with a softer press . If it is finding neutral when you don't desire neutral ,it probably has a dragging clutch or some other misadjustment.
you've got to salute the people back in the day who actually bought these for daily transport
Back in the early 60s there was still a shortage of affordable and economical-to-run cars. Motorcycles were not so good for regular trips to work if you didn't want to get cold and wet, or ride over ice and snow - so these little three wheelers found a niche in the UK for a few years until more modern used small cars like the Mini came along.
I'm sure a modern, safr version of these would sell like hot cakes for cheap city-car purposes.
The tricky bit would be making it safe...
@@HubNut If you want to be safe, buy a Challenger 2 tank! Bring back small city cars, proper micro cars, with modern brakes and engines and weighing 300kg. Similar to the Renault Twizzy, but with a tiny, two cylinder petrol engine like the Fiat Twinair.
They were fine for pottering around town, going to school or shopping for groceries. They were as safe as any motorcycle, scooter or moped.
I bet these things are so expensive, would love to restore one, would bring back good memories !
They are £20,000 plus these days. Insane.