CS2 Cheat Dev on Valve's BAN Policy...
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Today I had an interview with a CS2 Cheat Developer, who explained a lot of the cheating world to me...
00:00 Intro
00:20 Interview begins
00:40 Internal vs External
01:21 Why isn't valve banning cheaters?
03:57 How do we ban them?
06:10 His cheat
07:16 External features
12:43 Internal features
14:48 Why make cheats?
15:37 State of CS2
18:00 Outro
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I would love a Interview with a valves employee talking about the cheater problems
dude the main people who are going to really study that interview are going to be the cheat programmers. let valve cook for CS2. I do want a valve response for TF2, though. TF2 is becoming unplayable on Valve servers even for casual players, it's a shame because TF2 is a gem.
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Valve employee? Lol xD
@@shouygui4955 They don't have to give out too much inside information. I would be interested to know what their opinion is on the topic. Whether they are aware of how bad the cheater problem is in matchmaking. Why there is so much hesitation in banning. Why no new anti cheat comes out like in valorant. I just can't understand why more isn't being done or why they are so quiet about it.
@@shouygui4955 "let valve cook for cs2" - man they are cooking for months with 0 results.
I run into cheaters in so many premiere games it’s borderline unplayable
i stop wasting money in that game, and haven't play almost anymore bc they don't do anything
same here, switched over to Faceit and the experience is 10x better. makes me enjoy it again because the matches are fair and almost no cheaters, you should try it.
Premier*
The craziest part is how obvious cheaters have become lately, and that some of them actually have insane inventories, like what?
Even casual is unplayable
I'm one of those people that usually give people the benefit of doubt if they're cheating unless its entirely blatent. but holy fuck, the amount of tiny cheats that make you look "legit" really makes me question everything now.
Congrats man, now you know how an average prime GE match was. Generally there was at least one subtle cheater per team who didn't check any corners but was always positioned right and was hitting all of his running shots and sprays with no recoil. Fun thing is that despite that subtle cheating they would still lose if enemy player hit that 1st bullet or naded him every round.
@@sp33dou I was sitting in 22K and every match after Jan 4th (after an update) went to complete dogshit when climbing before that update was easy as hell
if someone is half decent at the game u will never recognise theyre cheatings because they dont need to have strong settings , u only notice the bots who cheat
Yeah you zoomers are dumb af. 90% of cheaters are using humanized aimbots.. they look incredibly natural. People who are already good at the game know how to hide walls as well, purposely make mistakes.. etc.
@@leviwilder1205 You got to 22k? I'm stuck at 10k now because the lower ranks are full of people with walls who can't aim for shit. The other team seems to full stack on your site every round on CT, and when you watch the demos back they're just blatantly staring at you cross-map through a wall at round start to decide which site to go to.
If everyone started using the skin swappers to avoid buying cases how fast do you think they would fix that problem?
Maybe a week😂
few hours lmao@@arkfaks6778
less imo :D@@arkfaks6778
@@arkfaks6778 skin changers are common and are in alot of internals right now. They need to write to the games memory so alot of 'legit' cheats that aim to stay undetected do not have it as it may effect trust factor if the game detects an unknown write which increases changes of detection of the actually binary and so on
Within an hour their X announces emergency hotfix is already en route. Two hours in they issue the patch and calling it "Patched game breaking exploit". Then they don't count to 3.
VAC = Valve allows cheats
Oh my god you replaced one word
@@PS7UNTHEY DID?!!?!! it's almost like its the joke or something... Something something idk something like that
i am really mad at valve
waaaaa waaa
@@PS7UNPS7UN = pussy sad 7 used now
After 10 years of playing counter strike this is the first time ive ever really seen how cheats work... and it just makes me feel utterly defeated, like the fact they call it "legit" cheating is beyond me
Its with normal game rules...but i do agree its a joke at moment
He simply uses this phrase to distinguish between rage cheating and cheating with goal in mind. To look like a skilled player. IE emulate legit play. Ie legit cheating.
Legit cheating /closet cheating = cheat but Hide it… you cant say 100% if the guy is cheating, have luck or is just a skilled player and just better than you …
legit/closet cheat means they aren’t being blatant about it tho some suck at hiding it. Rage cheating is not hiding it at all.
@@dylan_187 A lot* suck at hiding it, even when they try
One day Sparkles will interview someone who actually knows what they're talking about and isn't a clueless moron.
Facts and bro is just showing pasted menus
people that actually know what they are doing are intelligent enough not to do a interview. The sad part is that the anticheat is so bad that script kiddies can just copy paste code and add some random text and that already works to break the anti cheat
you are also moron and i found your voice changer
Yeah lmao, only valve employees know anything about this subject. Everything here is speculation to get views by showing cheats on a big channel. Passing this as “news” is a complete joke and embarrassment for this channel.
yeah wtf is this
Great video! Feels awesome that you have the possibility to show this issue to a large audience.
Please could you set up a counter-strike strike where as many people as possible dont play the game untill Valve officially says and outlines their plans for combatting cheaters?
I was thinking of that the other day, image cs drop from a million players a day to a few thousand
that wouldnt happen.. too much players
i'm in on that immediately!!!
wont happen, moot point
@@bloxer9563 no obviously not everyone but just a chunk so that valve notices, with enough creators involved it would be quite eash
Sparkles... You are one of the biggest CS RUclipsrs. Can't you, perhaps together with Ohne or for example GabeFollower, put some pressure on Valve to do an interview? Together you reach millions of people. Let them explain to us where things stand with VAC. Things are getting more and more out of hand.
That sounds like a perfect ide if they want to spoil there plants and give the hackers even more inside to what they need to do to stay undetect
@@gizmo2902 They are allready know how to stay undetected. Like this video it seems that the cheaters everytimes stays one feet ahead then Valve does. Over the past last years Valve has collected so much data of cheats, members that cheats that they should be enable to launch a good working VAC-system. They said it before the launch of CS2. The launch is now months in the past and the cheat-problem is getting worse day by day. Valve is starting to lose money because people are quiting with Counter-Strike. That's more money then holding the problem with cheaters and let them pay everytime for a new account. Constant players will deliver more money then cheater-accounts.
Get real. It is MONEY. Valve won’t lose money just because you want to have good experience in their game. New VAC is day zero and it will happen when game is going to die slowly as it is.
@@niexyr Game won't die. Maybe sometimes it seems that way, but it won't. And it never will... the community is to big and to hard. But the community is also strong. That's why i think 'the big boys' maybe can arrange something if they stand side by side.
nah, valve simply does not give a shit
Love the interview and the idea behind it! Thanks for doing it!
The whole community should do Agitation by not buying, trading skins and not opening loot boxes for month or week. Or until Valve improves anti cheat.
Yehhh
It wouldn’t do anything 😂 plus you could never get EVERYONE on board to stop buying cases
So basically it will never work
I think It will work because money is the most important factor, and if a major portion of the community stops giving valve money then they have to do something.
@@jenijackson9571 nah
I am in.
Valve has like 2 months before I think a massive portion of the player base leaves. Premier above 15k is almost unplayable with cheaters in 1/3 games. Comp is a waste of time because the ELO reset causes matches to be wildly uncompetitive. API sites have not detected a SINGLE player hitting Global in Comp yet because the single map ELO system is completely broken.
I reported a russian female twitch streamer that teams up with a cheater to boost their lowskill up to 20k.
I have video evidence and steam profiles verified but no one seems to be interested in banning those 5 cheaters
i still do not get it why we got the solo map ranks but the "old ones" and the new system with the points ... and yeah single map elo is broken do not work at all
@@sakulugh I'm fine with the single map rating system. The formula for ELO has a "K-Factor" variable which is just a multiplier on how much you can gain/lose. If they just upped the K-Factor value from Silver to DMG, it would solve the problem of Gold Nova games having anywhere from 5k to 20k premier players in them.
Quit bitching about cheaters they arent in that many matches you guys just suck at cs and cry everytime someone wide swings your angle you sit at every single round
That's true these two last weeks it's unplayable, every night I play against cheaters, bot mouvement with high game sense like unbelievable
Thanks cheaters and developers for contributing to the top notch experience 🙏🙏
youre welcome
I don’t even blame the cheaters at this point. In fact, I hope as many cheats as possible. Maybe Valve will wake up one day. I have stopped playing premier. Faceit has a lot nicer experience.
@@keestojuusto6072 faceit has cheaters also
@@keestojuusto6072 not as many but there are definitely cheaters there too
all i know is, i just watched this mans shoot an awp at fully auto and ace in 0.1ms
I've spent over 7000 hours of my life on csgo/cs2. Thats nearly 1 solid year dedicated to cs. 1/28 of my life so far. I played for my university in csl and some lower tier circuits, and im not playing another game until valve addresses cheating. I email them often with an updated list of cheats that there is literally a subreddit for and they never reply. Why should i give another second to a company that does not value loyalty and commitment.
good job 👍
4:06 wait that’s me
I love that in these hacker interviews Sparkles always has his "i'm talking to cheaters" voice. It's slower, lower and less emphatic. haha, funny stuff
His argument is that Valve is earning a lot of money because of cheaters. They have to buy accounts in order to play/cheat. However, you should also take in account that a lot of people stopped playing CS because of those same cheaters. My guess is that they miss out on way more money this way. Almost all of my friends have stopped playing CS because of the poor experience you get when playing the game right now.
I guess who has tons of skins is not willing to stop playing the game.. "I've already invested SO MUCH into the game...:"
Not to mention how many new players would start playing if there would be really good anti-cheat.. imagine the money they would get from that
You can sell any inventory of valve for real money at anytime
So skins won't make anyone stay
People are just waiting another month or two for hopes of new content, after that i can see people bail out on cs2 very hard
Yep, exactly. I turned off the vid when he didn’t shut down that argument. Plus sparkles is a scumbag we already know that
check statistics, playerbase size is absolutely the same as before cs2 release, meaning some old players left, new come, but money for valve is the same. also prime accounts are cheaper in those countries where people usually create bot accounts and hunt for case drops, which they resell on market and make real profit
I've been saying this for years that VALVE could not care less about the cheaters as they are legit making money out of them.
Dude I just wanna say thank you for making this. The only thing we can do is create awareness of the problem and hope that it generates enough interest that Valve does what they can as soon as they can.
They can do everything but they wont money is more important than you and everyone who plays Thier games
Haven't played the game for good 2 months now and I don't miss it at all ngl
You were never a Counter Strike fan then
Imagine installing cheats and turning on the skinchanger JUST TO USE SHADOW DAGGERS
I dont understand the joke here, what's wrong with shadow daggers?
@@giuseppefanelli3507 they are widely regarded as one of the more undesirable types of knife skins.
@@fancybebthe screen shake is fixed in cs2, so they’re actually useable now. Thats the only reason they were a highly disregarded skin.
@@giuseppefanelli3507 they are also quite small knives so the colors of the skins on it just doesn't hit the same with every other knife
@@giuseppefanelli3507 Shadow daggers are butt plugs
Very nice video, enjoyed it a lot! Sad that there are so many cheaters :( after every second replay i find cheaters..
Nice you made a video like that. The more creators talk about this problem the bigger the chances that volvogaben will fix it.
The Cheating is getting worse and worse day by day, hope you can show us more of these insides, so we know better and Valve hopefully wake up one Day and start doing something about this!
Sure they will just give it another year or so and play something else in the meantime😂
valve = sh1t campany. Cheater-strike 2, %70 cheater base right now, gj volvo
@@ziga226 How can you be so sure? This issue is not a CS2 issue, but a CS issue. They didn't fix the problem in 12 years and you think they will fix it now? Why? The only reason you saw less cheaters in CS GO was purely because of overwatch. But before overwatch there were A LOT of cheaters. Now they removed overwatch which is why you see more of them but the cheating problem was always a big problem in CS. So, no, they will not fix the issue in one year. You are a new player this is why you believe that.
Loved the video Sparkles. Yesterday it happened something really weird I even recorded it. I was playing deathmatch and there was one player that had AI movement and all his moves looked really weird so I went to spectate him and when I was watching him playing he stopped moving he went afk and when I choosed other player to spectate he suddently started playing again. Really weird.
Yep that’s cheat
IT HAPPENED TO ME TOO
well that is a xp farming account for drops. it is programmed to behave like a bot, but doesnt have wallhack or anything, just playing like an extreme bot whenever a player gets in their field of view, then they automatically shoot the player in an expert bot way which can be annoying because expert bots can lock your head in an instant. So yeah that is cheating as well
@@ADRIANOS259 Thats exactly what I thought when I was playing! Thank you
@@ADRIANOS259 there's actual cheat programs that tell you how many and who is spectating you too . so if someone is trying to catch you cheating you can stop doing it
I have quit CS for a long time now, it's a waste of time - but still watching your Vids, cause it's a lot of fun to watch them, always feel entertained
incredibly insightful, hope to see more like this
Bless you sparkles, for using your platform and sway in the community to push for change! We’re with you!
I think phone number verification anyways needs to come back and perhaps also ID/passport verification, I think that would reduce the number of cheaters drastically, why is no one talking about it?
@@GSicKz because theres people that sell phone verification services.
It is better than doing nothing. It would deter a lot of people from doing it undoubtedly. He is correct. It won't stop all of them, but it would help a little. @@deprived55
@@deprived55 how about ID/passport verification then?
@@GSicKz whats this, ccp?
N1 calling someone cheat dev when he is blatantly pasting his cheat, if you dont know who he is, it is guy named Backend / Meepo
he doesnt even know how to make a ui 🤣
cheat src from uc, deadcell ui from github 💀
also my guy acted like sound esp is unique and no other external has it...
mf i had it before the game even released to the public fym lol
@@noteffex ikr lmao
lol cheaters coming out and bragging 😂😂
@@noteffex they straight up ripped off my ui design but put in the minimum effort required 😂
This is the type of video every CS2 player wants to see. Great job man
Sparkles knowing his skins might go down in price because of ppl realizing cs2 is over. He does it anyways not your typical RUclipsr. a REAL G “GAMER “
As someone who used to grind premier solo queue and has a love for the game… this really hurts to watch… it truly is eye opening aswell. It makes a lot of sense with this cheat dev’s explanation why valve hasn’t done anything. Valve is a rich company … and their connection to the community has been broken for a long time. This video honestly made me lose all faith in MM might go to faceit I suppose 🤷♂️
I think I quit yesterday, it was demoralizing. The reason being is the fact that I started watching demos of previous games I played. It’s worse than you and I ever thought.
imo when cs2 was released when i got placed in 2k premier i had the most fun. People in the lobby admired my 12k inventory, I was top fragging 40 kills+ a game. Felt like a god. Until i got into 15-17k premier then i realized what a shit show cs2 is in. Let me go back to the 2k lobbies those are my kind of shit.
lets be real valve never gave a shit ever since csgo released
there never was a connection to the community and there never will be
calling him a dev is too much, he just bhought some sources from some of my friends (i wont give names, but i can provide proof)
But is he wrong somewhere? Like would you call cs on some of his statements or its all true
Yes not a dev hes a loser doesn’t understand cheats as much as he thinks 😂 some of the shit he said isn’t even right, valve needs to stop being lazy and add kernel its so fucking simple to add
@@fistrexxHe is massively underestimating the difficulty in detecting cheats when they aren’t open source
Valve devs watching this like: What? Are you serious??
Anyway, new patch is up guys. Fixing lighting in Donut on Ancient.
please keep making more of these, valve needs to wake up
Here is a short story:
Played CS GO long time ago, with release of CS2 some of my friends jumped into it as soon as possible (return). I did not, but after few months I said, "why not, could be fun with friends like in old times". Rejoined some CS servers and "revived" some online friendships along the way. And it felt good to use skins from past days that were just sitting in my inventory.
Elo: Silver - Prime account
Match one Dust 2 map: Since I did not play very long time my aim,sprey control, co-ordination was very poor. I struggled to get kill or even throw nades/flashes. Often would fail and was on bottom of scoreboard. Enemy team had a dude who went 35+ frags and managed to get kills through smoke and door. Idk if he cheated or not (for that) but I did not report since there are many players who played on that map 10+years and luck can happen. But HS ratio was 100% - hmmmm. Possible cheater who had great time imo.
Match 2 Mirage map: During that match I had internet problems and did not use team chat but rather Discord with my friend (snow storm in area). I was lagging whole match (well half match but we will get to that). I was at the bottom of frags, and doing 300 less dmg than rest of my team. I played - again- poorly. Then, puff, I get kicked out of match half way into with unable to re connect back. Took me 5 min to notice my game was under ban. (my duo friend told me match got terminated and that was their message on screen). I did not recive VAC or anything like that but actual GAME ban from Devs. I was so confused. I did not use cheats, I was not toxic (did not even use team chat) so I did not know what was the reason.
Now, I got kicked from almost every server and got a tag "Cheater/Do not play with etc". Even if I tryed to defend myself and say that is a false ban, everyone would say: You got ban, you are cheater, another one bites the dust, no excuse anti cheat works, you were reported and got service etc."
I did appeal to the ban. Got an email (automatic) that my case was reviewed and that there is nothing I can do.
7 days after my ban was removed. No explenation, no apology nothing. My though? Its possible I got ban from my lag since some others have, or was my Nvidia software that was still not fixed by Valve side. I did not even want to try to get back into CS again since damage was done and I felt hurt no one belived me. So I just unistall it and sold all my skins. Will never play that game again.
It was your GPU drivers. Happened to many ppl.
This video is unintentionally one of the greatest case studies on the Dunning-Kruger effect.
These script kiddies know just enough to sound competent to the general populous without actually understanding much of anything on the technical side. Which of course becomes really dangerous really quick when they are given a platform to spread missinformation and straw-man arguments probably not out of malice but worse; ignorance.
I swear I’ve seen this copypasta
their cheat get exposed for "pasting" like a few weeks ago so yeah XD
they are just taking the legit side!
yeah lmao, I couldn't get through the video cause of it
That's the same thing like in programming. You learn from a few tutorials, do a few projects, after that you think "you've seen them all, you know everything now". After that you start working for a client and when you get tasks you realize you only saw the tip of the iceberg and you have many things to learn. After 5 years of working in the industry, you think you know a lot....that's true, but you always get surprized of how much can you learn every day and in how many ways can a user break your project in a way that you haven't even dreamed about.
That's the wonder of programming, you always level up, but there isn't a max level you can reach. Many things can be achieved in many ways, with different approaches. Many codes will be simmilar, the end result will be simmilar, but the approach will be different (ex. programming language, what data are you using, how you calculate some angles, how it behaves, how it mooves, performance, etc.)
@@szilard1996 in conclusion, pasted
At least someone is making a video about this and not just talking about it, thank you
this is just shocking... keep it up sparkles I hope you can open some eyes and maybe help to change the currently poor situation of the game
No idea how we have many in the CS2 community defending Valve when it comes to cheating.
i've been in the world of warcraft community and have seen some insane corpo simping but with counter strike i don't think i can say the same at all, i think it's generally pretty unianimous in the opinion that valve is absolutely dropping the ball here.
The financial incentive argument never makes sense to me. For them to make money off a cheater, they must ban the cheater. So I don't see the conflict of interest.
are you going to do another trade ups video?
Already quit the game because of the cheaters. Had +4 years of pause since CS:GO but there is literally no way I'm motivated enough to play against cheaters every second game that I play. Good stuff you're doing these videos - hope for the change for better...
thats the main issue with cs2 imo. Its not the movement, the sprays, the bugs, people can overlook those issues if cs2 had something like vanguard. People want to have a fair match while they wait cs2 to be fixed but if cs2 is broken on top of cheaters people will quit like myself.
@@Astelch 100% agreed. I don't mind if the game is broken for everyone really. But if you're against hackers every second game, it's not fair and therefore easy to lose motivation to play. Wouldn't want to play Faceit all the time, would be nice to able to play premier with the boys too, but it is atm unplayable. Can't play a single game with 25k rating without a cheater on the opposite team.
This is proof just like many other competitive shooters that you have a cheater in EVERY SINGLE MATCH. Even if you don't notice it because it isn't blatant, you have at least 1 person using wallhacks in your game. When will companies take this more seriously because I am getting real tired of feeling there is literally no point in playing competitive fps games anymore because it is never legit even matchmaking.
Sparkles, this video will reach to 1 million views soon. Thanks for your effort to tell the true
First premier after 3 months, cheater duo in enemy team. lovely
This is Valve's problem. If they get money they like "okay we are cool." When they start losing money they start pretending like they working. Just same shit(maybe worse), different visuals. Simply they do not care. Thanks Sparkles.
Interviewing pasters as cheat dev's... Do you want to interview a multi-millionaire? (I've got $10.00,- in the bank)
at least if it was a competent one...
oh what the shit, i think my comment about my steam discussion was auto modded or something.
anyways man, i really appreciate that you're taking the time to make videos like this, it genuinely appeases the delusional and passionate side of me that loves counter strike so much.
thank you, keep this conversation going! it needs to be adressed.
His reason as to why valve "allows" cheats crumbles into dust the moment you think about it critically for 10 seconds.
Why?
An important thing to highlight is how i felt watching this video. When he demonstrated the sound ESP, i literally thought to myself 'i could use that.' Which is insane to me, primarily because if you can come across that legit in a game of premier, then that means that the percentage chance of you playing against a cheaters who have a similar mentality (even if you end up winning the game or top-fragging) is still extremely high.
To think legit cheating has come so far, that it would be extremely difficult to tell the difference between a closet cheater and a real player is ridiculous. I am lost for words honestly. Not to miss the fact that it's suddenly obvious to me why cheating is so rampant:
1. Cheat developers make bank
2. There is a demand because if you are cheated against, naturally, a part of you, regardless of how noble, will want to cheat back.
There are 602 comments on this video at this current time, would it be fair to assume that at-least 10% of you are cheaters, or more perhaps? Especially if even i, watching this video, was totally shocked by how well made they are.
I've taken that Escape From Tarkov wiggle video as a general guide for how many people actually cheat in popular FPS's. What was the percentage? Something like 50-60% of matches had at least one confirmed cheater or something? And they weren't aim-botting generally, they just had quiet cheats like wallhacks and all the other stuff that gave them advantages.
@@redneckedcrake7059 there was no % of how many raids have cheaters, just a personal experience. with G0ats video the estimate maxes out at 20% of raids having a cheater with a more likely case being 10%, depends on how many raids are actually happening since there are no official numbers of the playerbase
It would be fun to have a cheat dev and a VAC Dev talk with you on discord
I am 35yo and started playing CS 1.3. I quit playing like a year after CS Source was released and I just quit because there was so many cheaters that something that was supposed to be fun was not anymore. But I always kept an eye on the scene and 3 years ago I started playing again for fun and NOTHING has changed in all those years. So sad seeing Valve not moving a finger about this issue.
you should rename the video to: CS2 Cheat Paster on Valve's BAN Policy...
i'm sorry for anyone who thinks this is a competent cheat dev. his solution to how they could go about combating cheats and comparing it to blocking a phone number speaks for itself, that guy's is lucky to know his name, because otherwise he really doesn't know anything.
Hey Sparkles, Let's stand up against Valve and not play matchmaking games unless and until they fix this cheaters issue. We should put pressure on Valve because let's be real they are not gonna fix the game until there would be financial loss. We need to stop this non-sense. They can fix the game but they are not. Anything is freaking possible look at valorant, don't their devs are working hard to get rid of cheaters. Why can't valve do. My mind is so fucked from last two weeks because I am finding cheaters in 8 out of 10 games. I know it's a big ask but we as a community have to stop playing CS2 UNTIL THE GAME IS OUT OF CHEATERS. We don't deserve to get treated by valve after purchasing a game like this. This game has so much potential to be the best game but cheaters and Valve are ruining this experience for us. Let's stand up for ourself because we deserve a good experience after purchasing and playing CS2 !!!
Very hopeful. Sadly kiddo, valve doesnt give a fuck
@@hydros1ty that’s true. But What else we are supposed to do then? I have switched to faceit now.
Im just glad that most cheat developers put some "stuff" in their client that take advantages of the person that uses it
not most, barely any. there is a public and private 20$ a month cheat that are the top of the game pretty much. Free cheats containing malware are common but even those can be found for free. although they will ban if you dont use a good injector and or compile it yourself
sparkles just out here half advertising a cs cheat never thought that would happen
cs2 external name is aworex and internal was neverlose and youtuber at the end is tabzware
you got to love how they put in the future for the chet program the to use
Overwatch was probably the best anti-cheat cs ever had. It was also nice that at some point they rewarded people who were consistently accurately reporting cheaters there.
Good video always Sparkles. The truth is that everything is fine with Valve but since they did not even put a Christmas hat on a chicken to motivate the players who supported the game, they lost all the trust and respect that could remain in them, I see them as mercenaries, who for But since you are the one who makes them earn money, if they can they will kill you for more. They don't care about anything. Just the money. And even though they earn a lot, they only care about more money. They forgot about the times when they had to release several games like Counter Nexon and no one played them. The community made the game great, not Valve. But Valve is killing it, not the community...
true
from my experience (top 1% premier solo queue to 22k+) the cheating is not as pronounced as people think. I've had 5-6 games with/against cheaters out of ~100 which were game changing. for example, it's possible there were games in which players were using a smooth aim (without esp) but since they're so intrinsically bad that the assistance only leveled them to a regular high level player which basically is irrelevant.
Idk, I can probably not even tell when someone is cheating when there are all of these subtle cheats... I play 22K+ too and it's such a mixed bag of aimers, actual smart players, noobs and possible cheaters. I often meme in competitive now because I don't care about the outcome of those games. The skill differences there are even worse lmao
@@ubesaaa I just play premier as a warm up these days. It’s not fun to grind to top 100 because people will just think you’re cheating. Also solo queueing to top 1% is a lot harder than playing in stacks. Solo queue 22k = 30k in a stack
I dont see any point on playing premier when faceit is much better every way. At lvl 10 i got no cheaters and back in days at lower elo i never had problems either.
@@juuso4148 fairly obvious answer is a game should have an inherent anticheat/matchmaking in place as there’s an entry barrier for most non-competitive players to install a separate client and compete in 3rd party ladders.
CS is literally the only game that’s played these days with this problem so for players that play multiple games it would seem silly
If there's a cheater in the match it's a waste of time to play it, just go afk, don't give them the satisfaction.
"Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day"
please keep making these videos, and please try to get 1 person from valve involved with CS2 and ask them why they dont do anything. that would be interesting
i actually ran into a cheater using something like this yesterday i had to watch him at .25x speed on the demo to notice the aim wasnt natural mouse movements.
anything at .25x speed looks unnatural
@@lilganja1337 the player in the demo when toggled off his mouse barely moves like he didnt account for recoil or anything. as soon as its within a small like 1 ft ingame radius of the player it was an instantaneous perfect snap to the exact same point on the top middle of the head. it wasnt a mouse movement.
My theory is that the game is already heavy resource based, if an extra anti cheat comes, it will ruin performance even more and 20% of the player base or even more, would not be able to launch/run the game properly having fps issues, especially with an AI anti cheat
So true
After what i just watched, i want to vomit to all Valve's Employees. They made tons of money from that fucking game. They squeezed our pockets and continue doing that through their market place. At least they could something to get more people interested in that game. SO FROM TODAY I AM OUT! I am really OUT. Thank you sparkles for all this good job you have done!
It's commendable that influencers with significant followings, such as Sparkles, are creating content expressing concerns. It would be beneficial for the community to take a more organized approach in expressing dissatisfaction with Valve. A potential strategy could involve a one-month boycott of unboxing cases and refraining from purchasing the upcoming operation.
Prominent RUclipsrs, like Sparkles, could play a pivotal role in rallying the community behind such initiatives. However, for this to be effective, it is crucial that everyone involved takes the matter seriously. A collective and coordinated effort would send a clear message to Valve, urging them to address the community's concerns.
Rather than mindlessly investing in the next operation, it would be a powerful counteraction if the community collectively refrains from supporting it. Imagine the impact of such a stance, even making headlines on reputable gaming platforms like PC Gamer.
It is essential for the community to unite and take decisive actions like these. At this juncture, it seems that we, the players, hold the key to influencing positive changes in the game. Let's send a resounding message to Valve, demonstrating our commitment to the betterment of the gaming experience.
It’s possible that they are currently training an AI anticheat, which would explain why they have done nothing so far. They need as much training data as possible
done so little so far**
Or they are doing nothing just like for the past 12 years, also making ai ac would require people that know a lot about ai - valve workers are gamedevs etc, nothing even close to ai field
I'm sure they had job listings for AI if they really are doing this @@fistrexx
They have been training the AI anticheat for 6+ years. It just bans legit players with high dpi lmao.
nice deadcell menu paste
Love these Sparkles. Keep it up. I hate cheaters. Good to know what we are up against.
Thanks Sparkles to give us this type of content while every single creater are not doing anything to STOP this shit
I've playe around 20+ games since coming back to the game with better pc and i don't think i've seen any cheaters in these games..
Went from 7k to 10k with these games..I guess there are not many cheaters at lower levels..I'll seen when i get to 20k how it feels..
On the other hand, Wingman is damn infested...
when i was uner 15-18k, i didnt see any cheaters or maybe couple of them only... near and over 20k its different story, every premier game is sus... eather its cheater or game being broken, cant tell
yah for me it is around 15-20k range , they do a good job hiding it but once they start loosing they will go into rage mode and then it becomes clear you were playing against a cheater the whole game...
Yea wingman is completely unplayable. 2-3 months ago it wasn't as bad but since then its been getting worse and worse with every passing week.
paster alert
I would love a Interview with a valves employee talking about the MATCH MAKING problems
Thanks for the tutorial. Installing now.
If valve wanted they could ban 99% of cheaters tomorrow.
Im a game dev myself and so much stuff that those cheaters are doing is trivial to detect. No spread, bhopping, trigger bots, Shooting through the map, shooting the entire mag at once, skin changing, not rendering smokes etc. is all stuff that could be detected with 2 lines of code on a server side check. Battlefield 1942 from 22 years ago had some of those server side checks that cs2 is still missing today.
I have it on good authority that valve is making a lot of money selling their own cheats and source code so they will never do anything about cheating.
if valve would be able to do it, they would. Legit players spend a lot on cases, market transaction fees, operations, major stickers... they wont believe the drop in revenue this cheating era will bring them. I havent spent a dollar since we obligatory changed to cheating-strike 2.
@scardera you opening a case for 3 bucks and getting a skin worth 2 buck means valve made one buck. A cheater that buys a 2 buck skin and gets banned means valve makes 2 bucks.
Not think how manny blatant cheaters run around with thousands in skins.
Valve makes more monney of cheaters than legit players, if they didn't they wouldn't allow it.
@@kobi399 thats just not true lol if a cheater bought a skin for 2 dollars valve gets a percentage of that 2 dollars.
top comment and logical
as a member of cheating scene since 2017, i will say that valve has no won cheats. There are a handful of cheats from mostly russian developers. All other cheats are pasted. I think they benefit of cheaters bc most of them buy prime! And the HvH scene in commutnity servers is huge. They push the numbers of people playin
cheating is in a problem in almost all games atm
We've hit the point where anti-cheats are a "pick your poison" scenario. We've seen kernel-level anti-cheats work with things like FaceIt AC and Vanguard for Valorant, but not everyone is comfortable with an anti-cheat having that much access to their computer just to play a game. Don't have that, and you get wallers and spin botters in the mid-high ranks.
@@CR0WYT A few obese nerds who tell everyone about linux crying about privacy
When in reality 99.9% of players would give their bank details, dick pics, private chats and their soul for a better anticheat.
@@CR0WYT pls stop with the " not everyone is comfortable with an anti-cheat having that much access to their computer" like fuck off man, integrity is needed and if having a 100mb anticheat run in the background is too much then you're probably a cheater yourself. this is such a shit take
@@CR0WYT I'd still have cheaters over Vanguard...
@@ANDR0iD ok, then don't complain about the cheaters and don't use FaceIt or ESEA since they do the exact same thing.
bro i have only one question, where do you find all this guys??? great vid and we confirm what we already know that valve dont care!!!
Thank you for making these videos which shed a light on how bad the situation is. In NA around 13-15k ELO you start getting cheaters at least every other game, sometimes 3-5 games in a row who are so blatant it's not even funny.
Even with cheaters existing the game still pulls me in. Tough love man.
thanks for this vid, and tbh the state of the cheats and lack of policing by valve is sickening, but as long as that case money keeps rolling in they aren't going to do anything and that sucks for all us legit players!
I really hope you dont have to do this forever. But really nice insights into the cheating problem. Didnt know that this stuff was possible. Keep sharing this vids so that valve has to react somehow.
keep it up sparkles, give the cheaters more exposure so valve has to intervene. 5 head plan bro i see you
Thanks for putting even more pressure on Valve, this has to be the way. Its unbearable that players open millions of cases and they dont invest in a proper anticheat. Even if they're cooking, this period is already unforgivable.
Sparkles can u just start a petition, to get valve to actually adress this issue to us
Thanks a lot dude! Now I know what cheat to have!
So happy that there is other sites that offer matchmaking on private servers and have their own anti cheatsoftware that worls
Sound esp has existed since the last CS Go pro and got banned
TBH the best defences for cheaters back in 1.6 we're allowing non-secure servers for people with "additional software" or "cheats" and they did exactly what he said and download what they can find to study for reverse engineering. There were just as many cheaters back then but they were rarely in legit matches.
quick question if you hack on a new account and get banned can you get banned on your main too? or your ip or hwid or something or only on the account u used hacks?
no
best thing to do like sparkles is doing is just keep fighting til the fight is over.
More than 20 years in the game but players can't still figure out that cs go was never meant to be played fair and square, rather developing and sharing cheats within the community and in the process helping the game grow further and making playing the same even more fun.
The riple sound cheat is insane.
Me, when seeing the second cheat, dude with deagle on Nuke: hey, I've seen this one!
So where do we get these
Tabzware at the end lol
> they earn from banning cheaters
> I haven't been banned in months and I was sure they would ban me
pick one