When Winchester says "Thank you, Max", Klinger replies "Merry Christmas... slight pause... Charles." That slight pause showed Klinger knew that tomorrow military protocol and rank structure would be back in place, but for that one brief moment, they were just two men on equal footing with equal respect. Brilliant portrayal by Jamie Farr.
Had an officer on my first ship that was something like your comment. At sea at night on watch he told us not to call him sir and do it only when other officers were around. He was slack when it came to that but all knew the protocol still applied. So we called him " Lt", " yes Lt" and such. He would tell us at it is the enlisted who ran the navy and the ships and not the officers, the officers just think they run the navy and the ships.
Funny, it just occurred to me that for all his flouting of military convention, Klinger never, as far as I know, addressed any of the officers by their first name. I could be wrong, of course.
The not so secret alchemy of TV and Cinema is the proper combination of excellent writing, and a cast of actors with the talent to bring the script to life plus a director to put it all together. MASH had it all, that is why scenes such as this are so memorable.
Charles is surprisingly empathic and insightful in ways that his pride and pompous nature hide very easily. He knows when he's wrong and can apologize sincerely for it. Half the reason I think he has this ability is because of his little sister, whom he often mentions but we don't really know about. The episode showing that she has a stutter disability really puts Charles in perspective.
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i loved the dynamic between these two charles was the rich uptight guy max was the street smart from a poor world. part i find hilarious is maxes extended family could have been so rich from the area they are from it would have made charless family look destitute.
it's Max;'s last words that make htis one of the most memorable scenes in the later years. Charles isn't the completely stuffed shirt, and while max knows it, he letys charles keep his dignity.
They did that in a few episodes. The one where Hawkeyes father was sick. Charles and Hawkeye were talking about their fathers and Charles at the end said, where I have a father, you have a dad.
So true. I'm always moved by his experience in 'Goodbye, Farewell and Amen" and how he summarises it:- "Music was always my escape from the war, now it will always be a reminder of it."
To this day it is still one of the absolute best M.A.S.H. scenes to my mind. Between the two actors you can see they put real heart into it and that every word Max and Charles spoke they MEANT. Another is when Hawkeye is giving Millie's eulogy and he found out that she was in love with him her diary said something like "All I can think about is Hawkeye" she then goes to take a walk to clear her head and is killed in the minefield.
I cry every time at the end. I'm a blubbering idiot with this scene: brilliant acting and writing. No wonder this show has stood the test of time for 50 years.
I cray at this scene. At the scene where he gives the sheet music to the wounded pianist, and the book to the stuttering soldier. Without a doubt he's had some of the best scenes on the show.
I have every episode on dvd. Probably watched each episode 50 times. I'm like you. I still cry when I watch this. Another part that gets me, is when margeret cries about the little dog.
It was written by great writers. The casting was genius, too. The main cast complimented each other, even the ones that came in were scripted perfectly. I don't often use American terminologies but MASH was a home run. 🙂 Not just in the States but in a lot of other countries who fought the communism with them.
I absolutely love this episode. It is one of my favorites. It shows 2 things: 1. Do not make assumptions. 2. Max and Charles both had really big hearts.
@@Schulzffw I don't know. Max made assumptions about Charles and Charles made assumptions about what the old man did with the candy. All human beings make assumptions. Assumptions close our minds to other possibilities. It is how we act on assumptions that make us who we are.
@@SchulzffwI would but wouldn’t act uppity about it, specially since I hate forced charity muggers and how mulcahy is a blowhard who regularly abuses his position to work people over.
Just the moment of “max” and “Charles”. I honestly adored Winchester, he was such a good character, his first day is such a good episode where he goes in with such pride and arrogance when the wounded arrived and it cuts to the end and he’s just… broken,
He was a man who could (and did grow) and even of he thought some people were lower on the social scale he never actually forgot they were PEOPLE. That's what made him a great character.
I also loved that, unlike Major Burns, Winchester is an equal to Hawkeye and BJ. He's capable of standing toe to toe with them in both the operating room, and in terms of tomfoolery. "Please....Mozart."
Lawrence Linville left as he felt Major Frank Burns had played out all the comedy in the role. Had they treated him afresh instead of leaving his character the same as the movie he could have developed like Charles Winchester did.
Charles was such a wonderfully complex character. There aren't many characters who could transition between a protagonist and antagonist role the way he did.
That “Thank-you Max” is perfection. Classes apart but a mutual understanding and respect. For me this is both of their characters perfect moment. The moment Charles respected Max. I’m watching it on my TV right now. I’m 51 and it still chokes me up when Klinger says “it’s an old family tradition” My favourite episode ever.
Klinger's split-second pause before he calls Major Winchester "Charles" shows both military respect for the rank with a new found respect for the man himself. Major Charles Winchester is a gentleman of dignity, but, ever much more importantly, a man of character and empathy for people disadvantaged in life.
He epitomizes the concept of "noblesse oblige" - the belief that those who came from wealthy families have a responsibility to help the less fortunate. We could use more of those today.
I agree. Burns was fun, but very one-note. He didn’t really have anywhere to go as the show grew more mature and complex. Winchester was a much more of a full character, and was what the show needed in its later seasons.
My very most favorite plot line, and scene in all of M*A*S*H that I happily watched during its initial broadcast. How did Jamie Farr and David Ogden Stiers (RIP) infuse so much heartfelt affection for one another in so short an interaction? Amazing on both of them!
and to think... I didn't like Winchester when I was watching the show on television...but as I have gotten older, I can see the true depth of his character and kindness. He is my favorite character of all because he is often misunderstood.
This is when Charles understood one of differences between USA and Korea back then. In America poor orphans had not desserts. In Korea they did not have meals at all.
Larry Linville did. He left the show purposely because he felt the character Frank Burns was not developing, maturing, etc. like other characters were. He had a point. Frank’s character stayed the target of jokes, comedy relief, etc. throughout the series and didnt grow into anything else. The only time I remember Frank’s humanity even touched upon was when he murmured, “Goodbye, Margaret,” as she and Donald Penobscott left on their honeymoon. It was one of the few times you could tell that Frank had feelings as well as flaws. The producers liked Frank’s character and offered Linville a contract extension. He turned it down which, considering MASH’s popularity, was gutsy.
@@co94 Larry Gelbart said that unlike the character he portrayed, Linville was a nice guy who never complained despite the increasingly buffoonish direction the writers took with Frank Burns. Mike Farrell warned Linville against leaving the show, pointing to McLean Stevenson's embarrassing failures. Linville could have stayed and gotten paid, but he did what he truly believed was best for him.
Disagree, especially about the “real” part. Frank, with few redeeming qualities, was as fleshed out as he was ever going to be. That’s o.k. because there ARE real people just like him. And Larry Linville played the role to perfection. He was as good as the brilliant David Ogden Stiers playing Winchester. Perfect casting. Two great actors. Two entirely different characters.
@@humphreygruntwhistle3946Linville spoke in an interview on the criticism that the Frank Burns character didn't become more humane. He said, "Who did you want Frank to become? Alan Alda?" Linville added that Frank Burns is everywhere. He's your insurance agent. He's your used car salesman. His character wasn't meant to evolve into a better person. A group of military vets said in an interview that Burns was the most realistic character on the show, as their units were filled with guys like him.
I always loved the relationship between Max and Charles. You couldn't find two more different people, but they understood each other better than most in the camp, I think.
Two that stand out for me: his expression of envy for Hawkeye’s relationship with his father and his support of the soldier with the stuttering problem. Bedside manner is one of the most underappreciated doctor skills, and Charles had it in spades.
I like the one where they get all their relatives together in the States and Winchester's folks get along famously with Radar's family, to Charles' chagrin.
Keye Luke really shined in this episode, in the role of the caretaker/keeper of the orphanage, who would've earned a star in the crown for doing what he did (trading the fancy stuff for a month's worth of food). It was, by far, the most noble...and the right thing to have done (can see Winchester replying with something like "had l known that, l would've had my family ship me double of all that"...)
Keye Luke taught Charles a hard life lesson! Sometimes we overthink situations and enter them with lofty pre-concieved notions which are often so false!
Larry Linville portrayed Major Burns brilliantly, but when he left the show and they added Major Winchester, the show was transformed into a far better version of itself. The way he was seen by all as a pompous bag of gas, yet behind the scenes was deeply generous and caring...
I totally agree. I actually cannot watch the first 5 years of the series anymore. The comedy is so juvenile and predictable. "Frank does something stupid, petty or incompetent. Hawkeye and Trapper (or worse still BJ) outsmart him, mock him and save the day medically." Barf. Charles made the show into adult entertainment. He was by far the most complex character, and he made most of the other characters around him grow. (BJ was irredeemably boring.) The relationship between Charles and Max was very interesting. Better still however was that Hawkeye learned to appreciate Charles' genius, wit, and humanity, while also still being willing to rib him when Charles became a bit too pompous for his own good. The show lasted another 6 years because of Charles.
From what I heard Larry left the show because he was tired of them not letting the character of Frank grow. He felt they had taken the character as far as they could go in that direction and when they wouldn't change that he decided he'd had enough.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I heard something along those lines. He had fun with the character but wanted to try new roles elsewhere. I also hear he was hilarious in real life and had the cast and crew in stitches.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I think that the writers had also made Frank into a one-dimensional cartoon character, and that it would have been impossible to credibly take the character in another direction. It became almost a relief that Larry decided to leave, as it meant they could create a more well-rounded, realistic character, more fitting for the direction that the producers wanted to go. IIRC, it was also at this time that Alan Alda was starting to exercise more creative control over the show.
@@bradevans7935 oh I agree. Burns became such a one note joke that there really was nowhere to go with the character without it being implausible. That being said Major Houlihan was something of a one note character as well in the first few seasons and they did manage to turn that around. The same could be said for Klinger as well. I think they just went too far off the deep end with Frank Burns.
One of the best scenes of mash. This really portrayed the heart of charles and max. If this scene doesn't bring a tear to your eyes i think nothing can.
This makes me cry, I know that sounds silly, but I'm so tired of the meanness in this world that even though this was scripted, it gets me every time. God bless everyone who reads this, and do or say something kind to a stranger today Amen, love from Australia xx 💕💕
I know. I'm not used to such wholesomeness. Especially with the way the country is now, under the heel of the DemocRats. Since 2016 Ghostbusters, there has been nothing in media but _crap_ written by clownish, Kool-Aid-haired diversity hires! And then to go back and see scenes like this, see how much heart entertainment _used_ to have, before it was hijacked by the Commie Fascists to spread their propaganda and gaslighting.
It doesn't sound silly at all. This scene...and episode...reminds us all of our beautiful humanity. I wish there were more people who were brought to tears by scenes like this one.
MASH. Such a classic. The humor, tears, rawness, and a slight look into the lives into what it may have been like during a time of war. Life lessons can be learned through the eyes of everyone at MASH! I'm 60 and I still love this show... and yes, I still cry at times.
I love that Charles gets put in his place here, and realises what the children really need. That which sustains them long-term versus that which is short-lived is the true gift. "It is certainly inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal."
i think you both are missing the point Charles was not put in his place as his gift came from the heart with 0 expectation of reward what he did not understand was just how hard up the children were and that his gift was not stolen as he feared someone would do for there own monetary gain but instead used to provide what the children really needed.
@@clapepez These were the moments that made us love him. He had all that bluster and pride, but he COULD admit when he was wrong without losing his dignity. And in this case he wasn't even wrong, he just didn't realize his gift was over ambitious. If he had known they needed food more than sweets you bet your butt he would have bought the rice and cabbage himself.
This was one of my favorite episodes, and this part still continues to bring tears to my eyes. I loved Charles, and as much as I liked Frank Burns, David Ogden Stires brought a very strong character to the show that made it more touching. May they both be resting in peace.
I was born in ‘80. This show was almost off the air by the time I watched television. Discovered it about 15 years ago. LOVE it. My favorite show of all time. Comedy & Heart. Too many favorite episodes to list
The character of Winchester was that of a good and decent man. The writers did a great job and David Ogden Stiers did an excellent job in the portrayal. May he rest in peace.
Yes, and it's too bad that when the draft went away in 1973, most fortunate sons never find themselves on the front line. The burden of military service is no longer shared by the whole country, but rather by only a disproportionate few segments of society.
David Ogden Stiers was a fabulous actor. In my opinion, his most powerful mash scene was in the "Goodbye Farewell Amen" episode/movie. Towards the very end where they were all having their last meal together, they one by one told everyone else what they were going to do next now that the war was over. When Colonel Potter asked Winchester what his plans were, at the very end of his scene he said, and im paraphrasing here, " for me music was an escape from this miserable experience. (long pause) But now it will serve as a reminder." He said that in such a convincing way that you would swear that he did actually experience being a doctor during the Korean conflict. RIP David.
Charles thought chocolate would make the kids happy. But he hadn't considered the importance of real food until they spoke outside. Necessities must come first. A child can't enjoy anything if they have died from starvation.
Incredible scenes - Max telling Charles - in effect - that he understood Charles generosity, and Charles' need to honor Winchester Family tradition in remaining anonymous. Add the subsequent heartwarmimg responses, that CONTINUE to bring a tear to my eye 40-plus years after seeing it on CBS the 1st time! I'll always love M*A*S*H!
The true merit of Charles was his humanity and his humility! The military service opened his mind to a real world that his affluence and upbringing did not "afford" him! He became a far better person for being around others outside of his cast! He learned to be humble! That was a gift to him! Something the stuffy upbringing could never give him!
Another example of Charles recognizing when his good intentions were genuinely misplaced and was willing to accept the correction. AND recognized a similar gift ("must remain anonymous ... it's an old family tradition") from someone else.
This is why nothing tops this show as far as writing. The emotion they were able to evoke into a 20 minute episode each time most shows can't even do in an entire season.
Major Charles Winchester III, Major Margaret "Hotlips" Houlihan", and Cpl. Max Klinger... three of my favorite characters from my alltime favorite TV show. What I admired about Winchester (perfectly played by David Ogden Stiers) was that, yes, he started out as a pompous blue-blood, but when someone wronged another member of the 4077th, or did something he considered morally reprehensible, Winchester would move heaven and earth to right that wrong...and he was never too ashamed to show his humility when he himself acted wrongly. That moment with Max and Charles is one of my favorites. Ultimately, Charles became "one of the gang". Thank you for sharing this video.
Dang it! Brings tears to my Eyes EVERY TIME I SEE THIS! Only God know what is truly in the Heart of Man. This episode always shows me that! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
He was one of my favorites, he helped people but didnt want anyone to know, like the one piano player that lost his arm, or the soldiers that were killed that played music
when David first joined the cast I wasn't that impressed with his character. But after a while and some of the episodes he did he ended up being my favorite character
This is one of my favorite MASH episodes of all time. It was towards the end of the series, and they were all so powerful. It's one of the few times you hear Klinger call Charles.... Charles. Always put some lump in my throat! Peace from California!
Charles, despite his pomposity, was a fundamentally decent human being who applauded and admired decency in others. He wasn't a coward like Frank, who hid behind his Napoleon complex, but someone who took life seriously, and expected life to take him seriously. That's why he must have some of the best episodes and easily the best character arc. He wasn't a bad man at all, but he felt nobody else was taking life seriously. But you see him realise how seriously everyone actually is taking it as the show progresses, and you see his admiration for all of them grow as a result. A glorious character.
I consider Charles the be the best character of the series. Switching frank out for Charles is exactly what gave the show new life in the second half of its run.
One of the aspects I really like about this sequence that is often overlooked by discussion about all the other great bits: Klinger's sneakiness and underhandedness is used for good here- he deliberately eavesdrops on Winchester and Choi and not for some nefarious scheme or even for his Section 8 wishes.
ABSOLUTELY! In subsequent episodes Major Charles Emerson Winchester III from Boston, Massachusetts tried teaching Classical Music to some captured Chinese Musicians who were "soldiers" and was very compassionate to them but unfortunately they were killed in the back of a Prisoner of War truck being driven away from MASH 4077. Rest In Peace David Ogden Stiers
The last scene is my most favorite scene from M*A*S*H!!! And I believe it is so touching because it is just truthful... You can see Jamie Farr's face and eyes - it is all there... just shines from him without words... So beautifull!!!:)
I'm in my early 30's and this show was on every summer of my childhood. To this day, MASH remains my favorite memories growing up. To the whole cast and crew, thank you for this wonderful masterpiece.
One of the many things overlooked by people when they first watch this series is that replacing certain characters through the years was not always smiled upon, however when we got to know the new characters better, we saw progression. Charles is one of those characters. In the beginning you see him as an arrogant pompous show boat. A man who sneers at those lesser than him, but as we move forward in the series, we see his compassion for those less fortunate, those who are bullied, and those who just need someone to be on the same level of understanding certain situations. He showed us someone far better than Frank Burns, but I must admit that we did need Frank, he showed us someone who is well rounded in ways no others could be. Charles literally brought a depth of understanding that we as an audience were screaming for at certain times. Best example being when the baby was left at the MASH unit. Charles told Hawkeye that he would handle the talking, then literally had to be held back because of his righteous anger at a man who could care less for the safety of the baby. Still to me one other most powerful moments I have ever seen him in for this show. David Ogden Stires was a brilliant actor all around. The voices of Ratcliff in Pocahontas, Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast, and Jamba Jukiba in Lilo and Stitch. He also had other great live action movie parts and television shows appearances. To me, his best one was in Touched by an Angel when he portrayed the devil himself. I highly recommend watching the last two episodes to see what I mean.
As a retiree in southeast asia, I use this scene in my mind a lot. It guides me into giving what the people need,, not my buying first world toys they dont use at all.
Charles cones to the awful realization. All the Christmas memories of his affluent family, bedecked in gay apparel, offering cheer and joy to orphanages in local Boston. How many of those wretchlings had chocolate for a moment, and grim reality after that glow ebvs away. Charles was repairing those emotions and nostalgia, reaching out to the picture of flawless Honoria, so far away. Remember Charles mentioned, "servant waiting at hand , glow of utter civility" Klinger's repartee as doting dinner servant mocks Charle's senses, but in the end, the Christmas tradition isn't lost or forsaken, and in the waning years of maturation, Charles gets one more chance to feel the holiday spirit rekindled.
They just don't make TV shows like this anymore. I watched this scene when it first aired some 40+ years ago, and I was brought to tears by the humanity of it. Of course, you must watch the other episodes to totally understand the usual and constant acerbic banter, which makes this tender, heartfelt moment all the better. Now over 40 years later, this scenes still engenders an earnest sense of goodwill... it touches the warmest parts of my heart. Well scripted, well choreographed, and well played by all on the M-A-S-H crews. Bravo!
"It is sadly inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal" I feel like there are a lot of people in our world who could learn from that.
What I love so much about this show was moments like this. When they used their first names, not ranks or nicknames or last names, but first names. You knew that they were acknowledging the love they had for each other. Even with all the bickering or joking about each other, underneath it all, they really did care for each other and at moments like this, needed each other to be "people" and not just "co-workers in the military". Which is why Klinger's pause before saying "Charles" meant so much. He was acknowledging the man, his views on "giving" (Which were that they were done WITHOUT the need for publicly acknowledging it) and that sometimes while what may seem to be only "on the surface" can actually be much deeper and honest than you would expect.
Mash never fails to break me. It brings me back to me and my dad, a Korea and vietnam war vet, watching the show together. Nothing helped me connect to him better then sharing this, and listening to him explain how things were. He loved mash. Respected the doctors, and found joy in the humor. Ill never forget.
I had a young co worker that needed a place to to stay , we would get off work and he'd hurry off to party and play with the younger croud , i just wanted to get home and watch MASH , he didn't get it ! So one day he sat and watched a couple of back to back episodes ! After that he was hooked ! And it made it better for me to have someone to watch it with ! Awesome show !
They could never have done something like this with Frank Burns. There are times that I miss Frank as the foil of Hawkeye, but Charles was able to show a bit of humanity.
Absolutely one of my all time favorite scenes from this classic tv show! I learned that Max and Charles were characters with tremendous amounts of depth and humanity.
These scenes with Charles were great, but I also liked Hawkeye, BJ, and Margret trying to make that badly wounded soldier live past midnight. In the end, they're unable to do it, but Hawkeye moves the hands on the O.R. clock and they falsify the record.
@@timkumpost6036 I never really cared for this storyline. The family lost a member in war. The sacrifice will always hurt -- regardless of the time of death.
@@smwca123 Agreed. No one should remember the holidays as the time of a wartime casualty. But grief is not limited to the anniversary date, but arise around the anniversary time period. The holiday season will be tarnished until the pain subsidies. Wartime casualties continue to be a greater failure of mankind.
I have no idea but one of the things I always loved about the scene between Klinger and Winchester is when Charles turns around, the chair slightly creaks. Maybe it’s my imagination, but so many things went through my head when I heard/hear that creak. The first, primary thought when I first saw it was that it was almost like with that extension of humanity Max gives him, the weight of the world on his shoulders lightens to Charles….even if ever so slightly.
This is one of my favourite M*A*S*H episodes. It’s a shining example of why I prefer Charles over Frank. While both characters were rich snobs, Charles always had a sliver of humanity in his heart that he tried to keep hidden from the others, but would often slip out on occasions like these.
When Winchester says "Thank you, Max", Klinger replies "Merry Christmas... slight pause... Charles." That slight pause showed Klinger knew that tomorrow military protocol and rank structure would be back in place, but for that one brief moment, they were just two men on equal footing with equal respect. Brilliant portrayal by Jamie Farr.
Had an officer on my first ship that was something like your comment. At sea at night on watch he told us not to call him sir and do it only when other officers were around. He was slack when it came to that but all knew the protocol still applied. So we called him " Lt", " yes Lt" and such. He would tell us at it is the enlisted who ran the navy and the ships and not the officers, the officers just think they run the navy and the ships.
Funny, it just occurred to me that for all his flouting of military convention, Klinger never, as far as I know, addressed any of the officers by their first name. I could be wrong, of course.
@@nolanboles8492 Yes, Klinger wanted out of the Army, but he never neglected his duties or let the MASH unit down.
The not so secret alchemy of TV and Cinema is the proper combination of excellent writing, and a cast of actors with the talent to bring the script to life plus a director to put it all together. MASH had it all, that is why scenes such as this are so memorable.
@@stanistevens Yes, he hated the army, but he took his hospital work and saving lives, very seriously.
Charles is surprisingly empathic and insightful in ways that his pride and pompous nature hide very easily. He knows when he's wrong and can apologize sincerely for it. Half the reason I think he has this ability is because of his little sister, whom he often mentions but we don't really know about. The episode showing that she has a stutter disability really puts Charles in perspective.
I would modify that statement "pompous nature" with pompous "facade".
"Thank you Max", just gave me chills.
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I love the "thank you Max" at the end. It's what made Charles such a great character.
i loved the dynamic between these two charles was the rich uptight guy max was the street smart from a poor world. part i find hilarious is maxes extended family could have been so rich from the area they are from it would have made charless family look destitute.
Truly touches my heart.
I have always loved this scene
Winchester was my favorite .
it's Max;'s last words that make htis one of the most memorable scenes in the later years. Charles isn't the completely stuffed shirt, and while max knows it, he letys charles keep his dignity.
The episodes that humanize Charles are all done brilliantly
Especially the episode where we learn his sister has a stutter
They did that in a few episodes. The one where Hawkeyes father was sick. Charles and Hawkeye were talking about their fathers and Charles at the end said, where I have a father, you have a dad.
@@Skipper.17 that’s an amazing episode
So true. I'm always moved by his experience in 'Goodbye, Farewell and Amen" and how he summarises it:- "Music was always my escape from the war, now it will always be a reminder of it."
@@USSCYT Loved that episode!
To this day it is still one of the absolute best M.A.S.H. scenes to my mind. Between the two actors you can see they put real heart into it and that every word Max and Charles spoke they MEANT. Another is when Hawkeye is giving Millie's eulogy and he found out that she was in love with him her diary said something like "All I can think about is Hawkeye" she then goes to take a walk to clear her head and is killed in the minefield.
I cry every time at the end. I'm a blubbering idiot with this scene: brilliant acting and writing. No wonder this show has stood the test of time for 50 years.
@C Landau I think it will.
50 years? Do you know how old that makes me?
I cray at this scene. At the scene where he gives the sheet music to the wounded pianist, and the book to the stuttering soldier. Without a doubt he's had some of the best scenes on the show.
I have every episode on dvd. Probably watched each episode 50 times. I'm like you. I still cry when I watch this. Another part that gets me, is when margeret cries about the little dog.
It was written by great writers. The casting was genius, too. The main cast complimented each other, even the ones that came in were scripted perfectly. I don't often use American terminologies but MASH was a home run. 🙂 Not just in the States but in a lot of other countries who fought the communism with them.
My favorite character and my favorite episode. Gets me teary-eyed every time.
I absolutely love this episode. It is one of my favorites. It shows 2 things:
1. Do not make assumptions.
2. Max and Charles both had really big hearts.
But to be honest, would anyone of us NOT take this assumption?
@@Schulzffw I don't know. Max made assumptions about Charles and Charles made assumptions about what the old man did with the candy. All human beings make assumptions. Assumptions close our minds to other possibilities. It is how we act on assumptions that make us who we are.
And 3 that Max and Charles while not equal financially were equal as human beings!
@@christopherkerns639 "...for one brief shining moment".
@@SchulzffwI would but wouldn’t act uppity about it, specially since I hate forced charity muggers and how mulcahy is a blowhard who regularly abuses his position to work people over.
That scene never fails to draw a tear. Even after seeing it countless times. Just brilliant all around.
Just the moment of “max” and “Charles”.
I honestly adored Winchester, he was such a good character, his first day is such a good episode where he goes in with such pride and arrogance when the wounded arrived and it cuts to the end and he’s just… broken,
He was a man who could (and did grow) and even of he thought some people were lower on the social scale he never actually forgot they were PEOPLE. That's what made him a great character.
I also loved that, unlike Major Burns, Winchester is an equal to Hawkeye and BJ. He's capable of standing toe to toe with them in both the operating room, and in terms of tomfoolery. "Please....Mozart."
@@mousepariah3884 he was the epitome of "I might be an asshole but I am not a piece of shit"
Lawrence Linville left as he felt Major Frank Burns had played out all the comedy in the role. Had they treated him afresh instead of leaving his character the same as the movie he could have developed like Charles Winchester did.
Charles was such a wonderfully complex character. There aren't many characters who could transition between a protagonist and antagonist role the way he did.
Charles was a wonderful character. He was real. Beautifully played.
Yet, it was kept a secret just between two comrades in arms, Max and Charles.
That “Thank-you Max” is perfection. Classes apart but a mutual understanding and respect. For me this is both of their characters perfect moment. The moment Charles respected Max. I’m watching it on my TV right now. I’m 51 and it still chokes me up when Klinger says “it’s an old family tradition” My favourite episode ever.
Klinger's split-second pause before he calls Major Winchester "Charles" shows both military respect for the rank with a new found respect for the man himself.
Major Charles Winchester is a gentleman of dignity, but, ever much more importantly, a man of character and empathy for people disadvantaged in life.
It is inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal... beautiful.
He epitomizes the concept of "noblesse oblige" - the belief that those who came from wealthy families have a responsibility to help the less fortunate. We could use more of those today.
In my opinion the series improved when Charles arrived.
Totally
it became more realistic, more of a dramady as larry linville's mjr burns was too ott to be real.
I agree. Burns was fun, but very one-note. He didn’t really have anywhere to go as the show grew more mature and complex. Winchester was a much more of a full character, and was what the show needed in its later seasons.
@@SynchronizorVideos Funnily enough that was a factor in Larry Linville leaving MASH - Frank Burns had become too rigid a character for him.
Yes, the Burns character had run itself dry and Larry Linville knew it. The Charles character was a "major" improvement.
Charles was such a complex character. Brilliantly written and masterfully brought to life.
My very most favorite plot line, and scene in all of M*A*S*H that I happily watched during its initial broadcast. How did Jamie Farr and David Ogden Stiers (RIP) infuse so much heartfelt affection for one another in so short an interaction? Amazing on both of them!
Merry Christmas.... Charles...
Very talented actors who understand presence.
Charles’ hidden heart of gold didn’t show up often, but when it did, it made for some wonderful moments
Major Winchester's snobby attitude was just a front to what is a really good man.
“It’s inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal”
and to think... I didn't like Winchester when I was watching the show on television...but as I have gotten older, I can see the true depth of his character and kindness. He is my favorite character of all because he is often misunderstood.
I identified With him
I had exactly the same reaction. Didn't like Winchester at the time. But now his scenes are the ones I watch.
I've also grown to appreciate him more as I got older.
By far one of my favorite scenes from this show. Brilliant
40+ years later and the humanity of this show is still exemplary.
My goodness... this show is over 40 years old.
Exactly! I've often told friends who never watched this show that it wasn't really a sitcom, but more of a show about humanity.
This is when Charles understood one of differences between USA and Korea back then. In America poor orphans had not desserts. In Korea they did not have meals at all.
Definitely shows that underneath Major Winchester's snobby attitude lies a heart of gold
Yes, the pomposity was real, but it masked his humanity. What a great character Major Winchester was! He had so many dimensions.
Who knew that Charles would become a much more fleshed out, real character than Frank Burns ever was. Great writing.
Larry Linville did. He left the show purposely because he felt the character Frank Burns was not developing, maturing, etc. like other characters were. He had a point. Frank’s character stayed the target of jokes, comedy relief, etc. throughout the series and didnt grow into anything else. The only time I remember Frank’s humanity even touched upon was when he murmured, “Goodbye, Margaret,” as she and Donald Penobscott left on their honeymoon. It was one of the few times you could tell that Frank had feelings as well as flaws. The producers liked Frank’s character and offered Linville a contract extension. He turned it down which, considering MASH’s popularity, was gutsy.
@@co94 Larry Gelbart said that unlike the character he portrayed, Linville was a nice guy who never complained despite the increasingly buffoonish direction the writers took with Frank Burns. Mike Farrell warned Linville against leaving the show, pointing to McLean Stevenson's embarrassing failures. Linville could have stayed and gotten paid, but he did what he truly believed was best for him.
Disagree, especially about the “real” part. Frank, with few redeeming qualities, was as fleshed out as he was ever going to be. That’s o.k. because there ARE real people just like him. And Larry Linville played the role to perfection. He was as good as the brilliant David Ogden Stiers playing Winchester. Perfect casting. Two great actors. Two entirely different characters.
@@humphreygruntwhistle3946Linville spoke in an interview on the criticism that the Frank Burns character didn't become more humane. He said, "Who did you want Frank to become? Alan Alda?" Linville added that Frank Burns is everywhere. He's your insurance agent. He's your used car salesman. His character wasn't meant to evolve into a better person. A group of military vets said in an interview that Burns was the most realistic character on the show, as their units were filled with guys like him.
@@davidsamuels9557 If only Mike Farrell had left.
This episode is brilliantly touching.
a lot of MASH was like that.
He was a pompous, arrogant insufferable pain, but once in a he allowed himself to show his heart buried deep down like The Grinch.
I always loved the relationship between Max and Charles. You couldn't find two more different people, but they understood each other better than most in the camp, I think.
this and when Charles gets his red beanie he wore as a child from Radar (that he wore in many episodes) are some of the best moments of the show.
And the fall leaf from the child pen pal
@@michaeljensen4638 "Fall in New England."
Two that stand out for me: his expression of envy for Hawkeye’s relationship with his father and his support of the soldier with the stuttering problem.
Bedside manner is one of the most underappreciated doctor skills, and Charles had it in spades.
I like the one where they get all their relatives together in the States and Winchester's folks get along famously with Radar's family, to Charles' chagrin.
Keye Luke really shined in this episode, in the role of the caretaker/keeper of the orphanage, who would've earned a star in the crown for doing what he did (trading the fancy stuff for a month's worth of food). It was, by far, the most noble...and the right thing to have done (can see Winchester replying with something like "had l known that, l would've had my family ship me double of all that"...)
Keye Luke taught Charles a hard life lesson! Sometimes we overthink situations and enter them with lofty pre-concieved notions which are often so false!
Larry Linville portrayed Major Burns brilliantly, but when he left the show and they added Major Winchester, the show was transformed into a far better version of itself. The way he was seen by all as a pompous bag of gas, yet behind the scenes was deeply generous and caring...
I totally agree. I actually cannot watch the first 5 years of the series anymore. The comedy is so juvenile and predictable. "Frank does something stupid, petty or incompetent. Hawkeye and Trapper (or worse still BJ) outsmart him, mock him and save the day medically." Barf.
Charles made the show into adult entertainment. He was by far the most complex character, and he made most of the other characters around him grow. (BJ was irredeemably boring.)
The relationship between Charles and Max was very interesting. Better still however was that Hawkeye learned to appreciate Charles' genius, wit, and humanity, while also still being willing to rib him when Charles became a bit too pompous for his own good.
The show lasted another 6 years because of Charles.
From what I heard Larry left the show because he was tired of them not letting the character of Frank grow. He felt they had taken the character as far as they could go in that direction and when they wouldn't change that he decided he'd had enough.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I heard something along those lines. He had fun with the character but wanted to try new roles elsewhere. I also hear he was hilarious in real life and had the cast and crew in stitches.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I think that the writers had also made Frank into a one-dimensional cartoon character, and that it would have been impossible to credibly take the character in another direction. It became almost a relief that Larry decided to leave, as it meant they could create a more well-rounded, realistic character, more fitting for the direction that the producers wanted to go. IIRC, it was also at this time that Alan Alda was starting to exercise more creative control over the show.
@@bradevans7935 oh I agree. Burns became such a one note joke that there really was nowhere to go with the character without it being implausible. That being said Major Houlihan was something of a one note character as well in the first few seasons and they did manage to turn that around. The same could be said for Klinger as well. I think they just went too far off the deep end with Frank Burns.
Moments like this are what we all should aspire towards. Opening of hearts and minds is never a waste of time or energy.
One of the best scenes of mash. This really portrayed the heart of charles and max. If this scene doesn't bring a tear to your eyes i think nothing can.
Brings a tear to the eye, everytime.
This makes me cry, I know that sounds silly, but I'm so tired of the meanness in this world that even though this was scripted, it gets me every time. God bless everyone who reads this, and do or say something kind to a stranger today Amen, love from Australia xx 💕💕
Not silly at all, I am right there with you.
I know. I'm not used to such wholesomeness. Especially with the way the country is now, under the heel of the DemocRats.
Since 2016 Ghostbusters, there has been nothing in media but _crap_ written by clownish, Kool-Aid-haired diversity hires! And then to go back and see scenes like this, see how much heart entertainment _used_ to have, before it was hijacked by the Commie Fascists to spread their propaganda and gaslighting.
Love from the American Midwest to you
It doesn't sound silly at all. This scene...and episode...reminds us all of our beautiful humanity. I wish there were more people who were brought to tears by scenes like this one.
Love from Canada. This show often puts a tear in my eyes in unexpected ways.
MASH. Such a classic. The humor, tears, rawness, and a slight look into the lives into what it may have been like during a time of war. Life lessons can be learned through the eyes of everyone at MASH! I'm 60 and I still love this show... and yes, I still cry at times.
I always loved this episode!
Especially for that moment between Charles and Max.
😇❤
God this scene gets to me. Even after decades.
I love that Charles gets put in his place here, and realises what the children really need. That which sustains them long-term versus that which is short-lived is the true gift. "It is certainly inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal."
I love that Charles realizes which how true and important it is to feed the children what is nourishing for them instead of giving them momentary Joy!
i think you both are missing the point Charles was not put in his place as his gift came from the heart with 0 expectation of reward what he did not understand was just how hard up the children were and that his gift was not stolen as he feared someone would do for there own monetary gain but instead used to provide what the children really needed.
@@hardwirecars Well said.
@@clapepez These were the moments that made us love him. He had all that bluster and pride, but he COULD admit when he was wrong without losing his dignity.
And in this case he wasn't even wrong, he just didn't realize his gift was over ambitious. If he had known they needed food more than sweets you bet your butt he would have bought the rice and cabbage himself.
@@mousepariah3884 yea, I always got the feeling he was misunderstood
Rewatching M*A*S*H from the beginning and getting close to Charles' arrival and I cannot wait. He brings an extra layer of depth to the show.
I agree. I do love the Blake/Trapper seasons, but Charles is one of my most favorite characters out of all of them.
I'm the exact opposite. Frank Burns made the show.
Nerts to you!
it takes strength to be gentle and kind.
This was one of my favorite episodes, and this part still continues to bring tears to my eyes. I loved Charles, and as much as I liked Frank Burns, David Ogden Stires brought a very strong character to the show that made it more touching. May they both be resting in peace.
I was born in ‘80. This show was almost off the air by the time I watched television. Discovered it about 15 years ago. LOVE it. My favorite show of all time. Comedy & Heart. Too many favorite episodes to list
The character of Winchester was that of a good and decent man. The writers did a great job and David Ogden Stiers did an excellent job in the portrayal. May he rest in peace.
For a war that lasted 3 years, a show based on it got 11.
Every single episode was like this, virtually perfect.
And each of the distinct eras was good in its own way.
If you fought a war for just one night a week, it'd last 11 years!
Charles Winchester: When a "Fortunate Son" finds himself on the front line.
Yes, and it's too bad that when the draft went away in 1973, most fortunate sons never find themselves on the front line. The burden of military service is no longer shared by the whole country, but rather by only a disproportionate few segments of society.
Seen many times & again, it gave me chills. Mash had.more heart than any show, ever.
David Ogden Stiers was a fabulous actor. In my opinion, his most powerful mash scene was in the "Goodbye Farewell Amen" episode/movie. Towards the very end where they were all having their last meal together, they one by one told everyone else what they were going to do next now that the war was over. When Colonel Potter asked Winchester what his plans were, at the very end of his scene he said, and im paraphrasing here, " for me music was an escape from this miserable experience. (long pause) But now it will serve as a reminder." He said that in such a convincing way that you would swear that he did actually experience being a doctor during the Korean conflict. RIP David.
He also had an epiphany when he told Potter that hoped he could run Boston General Hospital half as good as Colonel Potter ran the 4077th.
I’ve always loved MASH, and Winchester has always been one of my favorite characters on this show.
Charles thought chocolate would make the kids happy. But he hadn't considered the importance of real food until they spoke outside.
Necessities must come first. A child can't enjoy anything if they have died from starvation.
Major Charles Emerson Winchester the thirds FINEST HOUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still makes me cry all these years later !
Yes, each Christmastime I am reminded of this Episode and my time spent overseas!
After 40+ years, how can this show still make me weep?
Incredible scenes - Max telling Charles - in effect - that he understood Charles generosity, and Charles' need to honor Winchester Family tradition in remaining anonymous.
Add the subsequent heartwarmimg responses, that CONTINUE to bring a tear to my eye 40-plus years after seeing it on CBS the 1st time! I'll always love M*A*S*H!
It’s a shame that more people couldn’t be like Charles, perhaps if they were, the world would be a better place.
The true merit of Charles was his humanity and his humility! The military service opened his mind to a real world that his affluence and upbringing did not "afford" him! He became a far better person for being around others outside of his cast! He learned to be humble! That was a gift to him! Something the stuffy upbringing could never give him!
ABSOLUTELY! Rest In Peace David Ogden Stiers as Major Charles Emerson Winchester III of Boston, Massachusetts
One of the most touching moments of MASH. This showed that Charles was a really nice person.
It was moments like this that Winchester showed his true self, under all that pomposity.
This show had so many touching moments, and the ones where Charles was involved were just golden. RIP David Ogden Stiers
Another example of Charles recognizing when his good intentions were genuinely misplaced and was willing to accept the correction. AND recognized a similar gift ("must remain anonymous ... it's an old family tradition") from someone else.
Max did it to show Charles that someone knew and cared for his noble gesture.
I really enjoyed watching Winchesters character evolve in the last few seasons. He ended up becoming my favorite character on the show.
I love this episode I have watched it a hundred times and could watch it a hundred more. It makes you tear up everytime.
This is why nothing tops this show as far as writing. The emotion they were able to evoke into a 20 minute episode each time most shows can't even do in an entire season.
Major Charles Winchester III, Major Margaret "Hotlips" Houlihan", and Cpl. Max Klinger... three of my favorite characters from my alltime favorite TV show. What I admired about Winchester (perfectly played by David Ogden Stiers) was that, yes, he started out as a pompous blue-blood, but when someone wronged another member of the 4077th, or did something he considered morally reprehensible, Winchester would move heaven and earth to right that wrong...and he was never too ashamed to show his humility when he himself acted wrongly. That moment with Max and Charles is one of my favorites. Ultimately, Charles became "one of the gang". Thank you for sharing this video.
As in "Run for the Money", when Charles told off the bullying Captain who was tormenting the stuttering soldier.
To quote Peggy Hill, “There’s something in my eye. But I’m also crying.”
What made moments like this great are moments like this existed despite war and suffering. Made you feel closer to home if just for a fleeting moment.
Dang it! Brings tears to my Eyes EVERY TIME I SEE THIS! Only God know what is truly in the Heart of Man. This episode always shows me that! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
He was one of my favorites, he helped people but didnt want anyone to know, like the one piano player that lost his arm, or the soldiers that were killed that played music
They weren't soldiers, they were musicians.
I watched this episode live when I was 12. I cried then, as I am now. One of the most emotional few minutes in all of TV history.
My favorite scene from the entire series. I cannot watch it and not get misty eyed.
One of my favorites. My favorite Charles episode.
Yes. And the one where Honoria sends him her 'voice-mail' and we learn she is a stutterer.
the episode where he works with the pianist solder who loses use of his hand.
@@JPF941
What... *"solder"?* Does the guy play the piano and is a welder?
@@donarthiazi2443 Proof that spell-check is no substitute for a good proof-reading.
when David first joined the cast I wasn't that impressed with his character. But after a while and some of the episodes he did he ended up being my favorite character
This is one of my favorite MASH episodes of all time. It was towards the end of the series, and they were all so powerful. It's one of the few times you hear Klinger call Charles.... Charles.
Always put some lump in my throat!
Peace from California!
Charles, despite his pomposity, was a fundamentally decent human being who applauded and admired decency in others.
He wasn't a coward like Frank, who hid behind his Napoleon complex, but someone who took life seriously, and expected life to take him seriously. That's why he must have some of the best episodes and easily the best character arc. He wasn't a bad man at all, but he felt nobody else was taking life seriously. But you see him realise how seriously everyone actually is taking it as the show progresses, and you see his admiration for all of them grow as a result.
A glorious character.
I consider Charles the be the best character of the series. Switching frank out for Charles is exactly what gave the show new life in the second half of its run.
I loved anytime Charles was a decent human being....this was one of my favorite episodes.
always called him Klinger ........... now Max; endearing and respectful
One of the aspects I really like about this sequence that is often overlooked by discussion about all the other great bits: Klinger's sneakiness and underhandedness is used for good here- he deliberately eavesdrops on Winchester and Choi and not for some nefarious scheme or even for his Section 8 wishes.
The entire role of his sneakiness changed completely once Klinger became company clerk.
@Rob Which eventually got him promoted to Sergeant, the Klinger milestone for which I always was happiest for him.
I liked how they mellowed Charles as time went on and he became close friends with them.
ABSOLUTELY! In subsequent episodes Major Charles Emerson Winchester III from Boston, Massachusetts tried teaching Classical Music to some captured Chinese Musicians who were "soldiers" and was very compassionate to them but unfortunately they were killed in the back of a Prisoner of War truck being driven away from MASH 4077. Rest In Peace David Ogden Stiers
The last scene is my most favorite scene from M*A*S*H!!! And I believe it is so touching because it is just truthful... You can see Jamie Farr's face and eyes - it is all there... just shines from him without words... So beautifull!!!:)
A great scene from an even greater show! =)
All these years later and it makes me cry EVERY time I see it 😢 😭!!!
RIP David ~ 🙏 and 👏👏👏
I'm in my early 30's and this show was on every summer of my childhood. To this day, MASH remains my favorite memories growing up. To the whole cast and crew, thank you for this wonderful masterpiece.
One of the many things overlooked by people when they first watch this series is that replacing certain characters through the years was not always smiled upon, however when we got to know the new characters better, we saw progression.
Charles is one of those characters. In the beginning you see him as an arrogant pompous show boat. A man who sneers at those lesser than him, but as we move forward in the series, we see his compassion for those less fortunate, those who are bullied, and those who just need someone to be on the same level of understanding certain situations. He showed us someone far better than Frank Burns, but I must admit that we did need Frank, he showed us someone who is well rounded in ways no others could be.
Charles literally brought a depth of understanding that we as an audience were screaming for at certain times. Best example being when the baby was left at the MASH unit. Charles told Hawkeye that he would handle the talking, then literally had to be held back because of his righteous anger at a man who could care less for the safety of the baby. Still to me one other most powerful moments I have ever seen him in for this show.
David Ogden Stires was a brilliant actor all around. The voices of Ratcliff in Pocahontas, Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast, and Jamba Jukiba in Lilo and Stitch. He also had other great live action movie parts and television shows appearances. To me, his best one was in Touched by an Angel when he portrayed the devil himself. I highly recommend watching the last two episodes to see what I mean.
As a retiree in southeast asia, I use this scene in my mind a lot. It guides me into giving what the people need,, not my buying first world toys they dont use at all.
Charles cones to the awful realization. All the Christmas memories of his affluent family, bedecked in gay apparel, offering cheer and joy to orphanages in local Boston. How many of those wretchlings had chocolate for a moment, and grim reality after that glow ebvs away.
Charles was repairing those emotions and nostalgia, reaching out to the picture of flawless Honoria, so far away.
Remember Charles mentioned, "servant waiting at hand , glow of utter civility"
Klinger's repartee as doting dinner servant mocks Charle's senses, but in the end, the Christmas tradition isn't lost or forsaken, and in the waning years of maturation, Charles gets one more chance to feel the holiday spirit rekindled.
They just don't make TV shows like this anymore. I watched this scene when it first aired some 40+ years ago, and I was brought to tears by the humanity of it. Of course, you must watch the other episodes to totally understand the usual and constant acerbic banter, which makes this tender, heartfelt moment all the better. Now over 40 years later, this scenes still engenders an earnest sense of goodwill... it touches the warmest parts of my heart. Well scripted, well choreographed, and well played by all on the M-A-S-H crews. Bravo!
"It is sadly inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal"
I feel like there are a lot of people in our world who could learn from that.
Charles was a very complex character, he had a very good heart
There were a lot of good scenes from this episode. This clip is another scene where Charles shows his humanity.
What I love so much about this show was moments like this. When they used their first names, not ranks or nicknames or last names, but first names. You knew that they were acknowledging the love they had for each other. Even with all the bickering or joking about each other, underneath it all, they really did care for each other and at moments like this, needed each other to be "people" and not just "co-workers in the military".
Which is why Klinger's pause before saying "Charles" meant so much. He was acknowledging the man, his views on "giving" (Which were that they were done WITHOUT the need for publicly acknowledging it) and that sometimes while what may seem to be only "on the surface" can actually be much deeper and honest than you would expect.
One of my favorite episodes.
Mash never fails to break me. It brings me back to me and my dad, a Korea and vietnam war vet, watching the show together. Nothing helped me connect to him better then sharing this, and listening to him explain how things were. He loved mash. Respected the doctors, and found joy in the humor. Ill never forget.
I had a young co worker that needed a place to to stay , we would get off work and he'd hurry off to party and play with the younger croud , i just wanted to get home and watch MASH , he didn't get it ! So one day he sat and watched a couple of back to back episodes ! After that he was hooked ! And it made it better for me to have someone to watch it with ! Awesome show !
They could never have done something like this with Frank Burns. There are times that I miss Frank as the foil of Hawkeye, but Charles was able to show a bit of humanity.
Absolutely one of my all time favorite scenes from this classic tv show! I learned that Max and Charles were characters with tremendous amounts of depth and humanity.
These scenes with Charles were great, but I also liked Hawkeye, BJ, and Margret trying to make that badly wounded soldier live past midnight. In the end, they're unable to do it, but Hawkeye moves the hands on the O.R. clock and they falsify the record.
@@timkumpost6036 I never really cared for this storyline. The family lost a member in war. The sacrifice will always hurt -- regardless of the time of death.
@@darrelldoxtdator5237 "A family's wreath should be green, not black".
@@smwca123 Agreed. No one should remember the holidays as the time of a wartime casualty. But grief is not limited to the anniversary date, but arise around the anniversary time period. The holiday season will be tarnished until the pain subsidies. Wartime casualties continue to be a greater failure of mankind.
I've seen this scene many times and it always makes me see the tenderness in Charles' heart.
My favourite episode of the entire series. I make a point to watch it every Christmas.
yes. as do I and try to give to those less fortunate through the GIVING TREE!
@@jephrokimbo9050 me too I get someone a gift from that
I have no idea but one of the things I always loved about the scene between Klinger and Winchester is when Charles turns around, the chair slightly creaks.
Maybe it’s my imagination, but so many things went through my head when I heard/hear that creak. The first, primary thought when I first saw it was that it was almost like with that extension of humanity Max gives him, the weight of the world on his shoulders lightens to Charles….even if ever so slightly.
very well written and expressed. THANK YOU!
This is one of my favourite M*A*S*H episodes. It’s a shining example of why I prefer Charles over Frank. While both characters were rich snobs, Charles always had a sliver of humanity in his heart that he tried to keep hidden from the others, but would often slip out on occasions like these.
Of the thousands of best scenes in MASH, this in one of the best.