From my pov they just gave it stanima drain so all those little kids on reddit stop crying. As SS and LB main i never had problems with fighting longbows. It was never really hard to dodge the shots by running zic zac and once you got close enough he was done. But apparently all those kids got no common sense to do so, so they had to nerf it to a point where it's just giant bullshit. When people cant handle a fight against such easy target, it's obviously not a balancing problem, the player is the problem.
Anyone else interested in Bow, another person to watch is Indigenous Poncho, he has played it almost 90% of the time since CB came out. He does sometimes teach in his videos, but you can learn a lot from just watching him.
Hello everyone!) The long bow is not the same! It was destroyed in season 4! Anyone who says that he is still good is lying ... Do not lie to yourself or to people. It's not beautiful!
Real long bows take alot of strength to use them, pulling the arrow back and holding is not easy, but nice guide im just starting this game. Seems abit complex but loads of fun!
huh i thought that made since for your stam to drain win drawing. im a real archer and shoot alot of long bows and i can tell you its tireing after about 20 shots. the draw weight of a English long bow can range between 90-200 lbs.
I am enjoying Bow, but I do agree the whole stamina thing is really lame, if anything have it use stamina slower because you are right... the heavier weapons would use more stamina lol
Thank YOU SOOOOO much for that Personal Opinion Warning... I hate those things, and always get suprised by em! hehehehe Good Job Bro & Sis ;) Keep on going!!!
I totally agree with what you're saying from a balance point of view, as I'm a bow main, but come on... the argument that you'd be tired more from swinging a melee weapon is kinda pointless, and also not true. If you're going shoot a proper English warbow one arrow after another for 20 minutes straight, while also run around in any rougher terrain, you'll wish you were the guy with the spear, poking the weak parts of enemy armour ever so often and just chillin' in the front line. (I'm exaggerating, of course, but you get my point. Unless you're using a short/composite bow in a mobile style of archery, bow is a tough bitch to handle).
Drawing the longbow draining stamina is pretty realistic, and from a balancement point of view perfectly understandable as playing the longbow allows you to stand 100 yards away from enemy units and still slowly but surely taking out as many units as can fit on your screen. Without anything anyone but another bow player could do about it. With how it is now, shooting freely means you have low stamina left to run away from a suddenly approaching melee hero, which is good. Catching ranged heroes is a pain in the ass and leaving them alone just allows them to kill stuff for free. At least now you can catch them. I assume it needs a little tweaking here and there, but for the game experience as a whole this nerf was one of the best things that has ever hit Conqueror's Blade. There must be at least some truth to people saying LB was OP before, because otherwise not 8/10 people you meet (that dont play LB themselves) hate playing against bow heroes. Next thing they should work on now is melee heroes being able to just charge into 40 units and kill them without losing even 30% of their hp. Just as it was stupid to see longbows kill half a unit with one explosive arrow, its just as stupid to see a Maul charge into your Spear Sergeants and smacking half of them dead with one ability.
Some good points here bud and thanks for your input! But I wouldnt call it killing stuff for free unless your units are standing still in an open field.. Bow players still need to aim unlike a melee class that can just spam left mouse button with no stamina loss at all and just roll out.. You mentioning the maul is a good example of this. I just believe normal arrows consuming stamina is a little overkill, I would rather see a nerf like crosshair shaking when pulling it too long or something like that which would have same effect on bow players to shoot as fast as possible or miss the shot. Consuming stamina for skills I agree tho ^_^
@@shadeonline3452 Yup, just like For Honor, swinging weapons consumes stamina shouldnt just affect LB, either no one or all weapons, which would result in a huige dynamic change in the game. Maybe they could have given them a quarry with a 100 arrows to spam before going to resupply, for a bit of a break, maybe have a 100 or 200 more when mounted on horse.
8 out of 10 players say longbow is too strong because they just don't snare Unfortunately, many assume that it is enough to put the range units and then go away themselves, something like that will Punished. I can still give out 14 shots without any problems before I have no stamina for 5 seconds. The only thing that was understandable was the explosive arrow with its far too high dmg for the little cool down he owns. Players like me, for example, still make a hero vs hero 7.2 KD on 198 games. Do you want to say now the bow is still op? Why do I manage to escape 9 out of 10x against the best dualblade player JackyTrinh or even outplay? Is only my opinion but there is always whining about the classes, which one does not master oneself.
The stamina consumption is just to much, lower it a bit and make all classes use stamina for everything. Instant game balance of overpowered classes. If this happens, melee would stop trying to solo push.
I think they should make an ego sight mode for all range classes cuz for my like normaly Fps player its a pain in the ass to third-person as an shooter (my opinio)
@@shadeonline3452 yea but if you look at you minimap you can see enemies incoming so your focus sould be the aiming right now at this state.^^ ty for reply
@@xXUltraBaseXx no worries bud! I like to discus stuff with our community ;-) also im not sure you see all enemies on minimap and invis dualblades will not show. Or at least should be 😅 always welcome on the discord bud ;-)
Like the vid but Have you ever pulled a traditional long bow. you need far more strength to use a bow over a long period of time than say a spear and halberd which are more dex based weapons. I like that it uses stamina
Im not saying it doesnt consume energy since I can imagine pulling a bow requires a lot of focus and arm strength but this is only for a short duration where as melee can keep swinging with no stamina loss at all. I guess it is something we will need to get used to 😅
Hey, so I just started the game a couple days ago I’m going to be maining the long bow I seen ur attributes because you main dB. Should I just put all in to agility since I’m going to be mainly LB or should I put some on star and agi
Depends on what stats your wapens gives you bud. You need agi for piercing dmg and str for the piercing armor pen. I would say to make a good combo between those 2 aim for maybe 200 more dmg(agi) than penetration(str) or try to even them out is what I would do ;)
Had question, I’m full strength atm cause of glaive but got a nodachi as my other weapon. Should I respec to put some points into agility or would that mess up my glaive to much? If you think I should respec what kind of stat ratio would you recommend?
That mainly depends on your weapons extra stats. Overal both those weapons can go with STR, AGI and armor. So I would make a mix between those attributes and I would probably put most points in armor from the 3 ;-)
Good video as usual! Would you guys say it's worth getting into LB right now given the recent nerf? Is it viable at all now for stuff like territory wars etc? Or should we just wait for a fix?
Its still viable as long as you are willing to put the time in learning and mastering the stamina consumption. Also if you like and are good at aiming/predicting it can help out your team for sure. Harrassing people on ladders, breaking up shields and finishing off those low health players ;-)
Longbow requires now map awareness and prediction / aim. If u can't master any of these 3 u shouldn't play longbow. Be ready to get punished the moment u play in higher skill areas. Single mistake will lead in death
I dont think there is a perfect build for this bud since it all depends on your opponent stats. If someone has a lot of penetration and low dmg I find that thoughness is better. But you never know this beside the obvious classes like ranged weapons and spear usually have high penetration.
Cant say it needs buffs but rather some less impactfull nerfs on the class. Now it will almost not be played anymore. You only see maul and shortsword running around like idc 😅
From my pov they just gave it stanima drain so all those little kids on reddit stop crying. As SS and LB main i never had problems with fighting longbows. It was never really hard to dodge the shots by running zic zac and once you got close enough he was done. But apparently all those kids got no common sense to do so, so they had to nerf it to a point where it's just giant bullshit. When people cant handle a fight against such easy target, it's obviously not a balancing problem, the player is the problem.
Anyone else interested in Bow, another person to watch is Indigenous Poncho, he has played it almost 90% of the time since CB came out. He does sometimes teach in his videos, but you can learn a lot from just watching him.
Hello everyone!) The long bow is not the same! It was destroyed in season 4! Anyone who says that he is still good is lying ... Do not lie to yourself or to people. It's not beautiful!
Yeap if u want play ranged just go muskeeter. Really hate that i wasted all my skillbooks on ths class =(
Real long bows take alot of strength to use them, pulling the arrow back and holding is not easy, but nice guide im just starting this game. Seems abit complex but loads of fun!
huh i thought that made since for your stam to drain win drawing. im a real archer and shoot alot of long bows and i can tell you its tireing after about 20 shots. the draw weight of a English long bow can range between 90-200 lbs.
im with you like one about bow
I am enjoying Bow, but I do agree the whole stamina thing is really lame, if anything have it use stamina slower because you are right... the heavier weapons would use more stamina lol
Now I'm ready... I will try out longbow for sure!
We need nodachi ult buff!! Btw nice vid man 👍👍
Thank YOU SOOOOO much for that Personal Opinion Warning...
I hate those things, and always get suprised by em!
hehehehe
Good Job Bro & Sis ;)
Keep on going!!!
Yeah, it's quite professional of me ;) maybe a career in television is right in front of me 😅😂🤣
(Doubt it)
I usually use long time to aim now it's impossible to do that my stamina just drain all out just for 1 shot and if I miss everything go in vain
I totally agree with what you're saying from a balance point of view, as I'm a bow main, but come on... the argument that you'd be tired more from swinging a melee weapon is kinda pointless, and also not true. If you're going shoot a proper English warbow one arrow after another for 20 minutes straight, while also run around in any rougher terrain, you'll wish you were the guy with the spear, poking the weak parts of enemy armour ever so often and just chillin' in the front line. (I'm exaggerating, of course, but you get my point. Unless you're using a short/composite bow in a mobile style of archery, bow is a tough bitch to handle).
Totally agree on this one
He was talking about maul and poleaxe. Imagine carrying a 30 pound axe around rough terrain. You'll wish you were the guy with the bow.
But the bowman gets tired of staying still for like 10 seconds shooting arrows.If my stamina lasted for 20 minutes i woul be happy
Drawing the longbow draining stamina is pretty realistic, and from a balancement point of view perfectly understandable as playing the longbow allows you to stand 100 yards away from enemy units and still slowly but surely taking out as many units as can fit on your screen. Without anything anyone but another bow player could do about it.
With how it is now, shooting freely means you have low stamina left to run away from a suddenly approaching melee hero, which is good. Catching ranged heroes is a pain in the ass and leaving them alone just allows them to kill stuff for free. At least now you can catch them. I assume it needs a little tweaking here and there, but for the game experience as a whole this nerf was one of the best things that has ever hit Conqueror's Blade. There must be at least some truth to people saying LB was OP before, because otherwise not 8/10 people you meet (that dont play LB themselves) hate playing against bow heroes.
Next thing they should work on now is melee heroes being able to just charge into 40 units and kill them without losing even 30% of their hp. Just as it was stupid to see longbows kill half a unit with one explosive arrow, its just as stupid to see a Maul charge into your Spear Sergeants and smacking half of them dead with one ability.
Some good points here bud and thanks for your input! But I wouldnt call it killing stuff for free unless your units are standing still in an open field.. Bow players still need to aim unlike a melee class that can just spam left mouse button with no stamina loss at all and just roll out.. You mentioning the maul is a good example of this. I just believe normal arrows consuming stamina is a little overkill, I would rather see a nerf like crosshair shaking when pulling it too long or something like that which would have same effect on bow players to shoot as fast as possible or miss the shot. Consuming stamina for skills I agree tho ^_^
@@shadeonline3452 Yup, just like For Honor, swinging weapons consumes stamina shouldnt just affect LB, either no one or all weapons, which would result in a huige dynamic change in the game. Maybe they could have given them a quarry with a 100 arrows to spam before going to resupply, for a bit of a break, maybe have a 100 or 200 more when mounted on horse.
8 out of 10 players say longbow is too strong because they just don't snare
Unfortunately, many assume that it is enough to put the range units and then go away themselves, something like that will Punished. I can still give out 14 shots without any problems before I have no stamina for 5 seconds. The only thing that was understandable was the explosive arrow with its far too high dmg for the little cool down he owns.
Players like me, for example, still make a hero vs hero 7.2 KD on 198 games. Do you want to say now the bow is still op?
Why do I manage to escape 9 out of 10x against the best dualblade player JackyTrinh or even outplay?
Is only my opinion but there is always whining about the classes, which one does not master oneself.
Love your content! Keep it up 👍
The stamina consumption is just to much, lower it a bit and make all classes use stamina for everything. Instant game balance of overpowered classes. If this happens, melee would stop trying to solo push.
^ this...fuck those devs, ill play Bannerlord until its fixed.
I think they should make an ego sight mode for all range classes cuz for my like normaly Fps player its a pain in the ass to third-person as an shooter (my opinio)
You mean having an option to switch to first person? ^_^ this could be a nice feature but you will have a harder time seeing enemies incoming tho :p
@@shadeonline3452 yea but if you look at you minimap you can see enemies incoming so your focus sould be the aiming right now at this state.^^ ty for reply
@@xXUltraBaseXx no worries bud! I like to discus stuff with our community ;-) also im not sure you see all enemies on minimap and invis dualblades will not show. Or at least should be 😅 always welcome on the discord bud ;-)
Like the vid but Have you ever pulled a traditional long bow. you need far more strength to use a bow over a long period of time than say a spear and halberd which are more dex based weapons. I like that it uses stamina
Im not saying it doesnt consume energy since I can imagine pulling a bow requires a lot of focus and arm strength but this is only for a short duration where as melee can keep swinging with no stamina loss at all. I guess it is something we will need to get used to 😅
i thought u go agility?
Hey, so I just started the game a couple days ago I’m going to be maining the long bow I seen ur attributes because you main dB. Should I just put all in to agility since I’m going to be mainly LB or should I put some on star and agi
Depends on what stats your wapens gives you bud. You need agi for piercing dmg and str for the piercing armor pen. I would say to make a good combo between those 2 aim for maybe 200 more dmg(agi) than penetration(str) or try to even them out is what I would do ;)
Had question, I’m full strength atm cause of glaive but got a nodachi as my other weapon. Should I respec to put some points into agility or would that mess up my glaive to much? If you think I should respec what kind of stat ratio would you recommend?
That mainly depends on your weapons extra stats. Overal both those weapons can go with STR, AGI and armor. So I would make a mix between those attributes and I would probably put most points in armor from the 3 ;-)
just put all to armor and use any heavy class :D and can world with the bow to :D
What do you mean when you say you would swap OMG with Pen?
I would place more points into Agi so that I would have 1900 pen and 2100 damage.
Good video as usual!
Would you guys say it's worth getting into LB right now given the recent nerf? Is it viable at all now for stuff like territory wars etc? Or should we just wait for a fix?
Its still viable as long as you are willing to put the time in learning and mastering the stamina consumption. Also if you like and are good at aiming/predicting it can help out your team for sure. Harrassing people on ladders, breaking up shields and finishing off those low health players ;-)
Longbow requires now map awareness and prediction / aim. If u can't master any of these 3 u shouldn't play longbow.
Be ready to get punished the moment u play in higher skill areas. Single mistake will lead in death
I’m gonna buy a new weapon which range weapon is the best
Depends what your playstyle is bud. I would by all 3 of them real cheap and test them. I like longbow the most ^_^
@@shadeonline3452 i play now with the longsword and shield, glaive and poleaxe
Could someone tell me how the damage is calculated in this game bc I hear all the time that armor is better than toughness without getting any numbers
I dont think there is a perfect build for this bud since it all depends on your opponent stats. If someone has a lot of penetration and low dmg I find that thoughness is better. But you never know this beside the obvious classes like ranged weapons and spear usually have high penetration.
i think the bow needs a heavy buff. base dmg and ult. Its not easy to aim. the nerfs are just cause of crybabies
Cant say it needs buffs but rather some less impactfull nerfs on the class. Now it will almost not be played anymore. You only see maul and shortsword running around like idc 😅
I'm dealing 22k dmg on average with my ultimate 40 seconds cooldown. 6-7k headshot with normal AA. Yea please buff 🤣
It's a dead class .... Only tactical players use it now ... Fcking developers they murdered my long bow ... 😭😭😭😭😭