Jeff Lewis & Lea Black on the explosive Flipping Out Finale
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2018
- Jeff Lewis talked to Lea Black, Gage Edwards, and Tyler Meyerkorth about the Flipping Out Finale and his fight with Jenni Pulos, saying everything happened the way it was supposed to.
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Jenni had no idea she was going to be fired period. That changed the game.
agreed.. but after complaining about Jeff and him finding out.. you can't blame him
She's the one who blamed him for not having an acting career and having to turn down auditions. He just set her free to go do it; now she doesn't need to point her finger and blame and whine.
This Lea lady made things worse in my opinion. She kept laughing and fueling the fire. She talks about being a real friend but she should have told Jeff that he was out of line. Watching the episode, I was more angry at this woman for laughing and making light of the situation. Seems that she sides with Jeff to get a discount on his service to be honest.
Lea doesn’t seem very genuinely nice and she definitely provoked the situation
I don’t think Lea and Jeff are real friends. They’re acquaintances. It’s a business relationship. It works for Jeff because Lea was at one time a Bravo personality known to viewers and it works for Lea because she gets to remain relevant to the Bravo world.
Yes, she is annoying
Leah did tell Jeff he was wrong. Leah, Jenny and Jeff know each other, that is just Leah.
Lea was so inappropriate laughing while Jenni was so upset. Next Lea and Jeff will be on the outs.
Leah, mind your business. Geez, you’re commenting on a years long friendship that you were not privy to. Stay in your lane.
Thank you.
He really did go too far I think. However Leah black had no right to sit there and laugh and then try to play both sides it was ridiculous
Colleen right?! She was such a snake... egging it on and being on his side and then hers. She just had no right to do that and she wouldn’t STOP 🛑
RHOAZ Exactly! I was transported to seventh grade back in the cafeteria
ppl saw it all wrong then
In my eyes I saw it as a nervous giggle. So people don’t know how to react in uncomfortable positions so they laugh. I think that’s what Leah was doing 🤷🏽♀️.
Joanna Guerriero that’s what I thought at first. The thing is she kept going so my opinion on that situation totally changed. You could tell that nobody else wanted to be there she though seemed to egg it on.
You’ve always treated people with such disrespect Jeff! And Leah Black your loving the limelight and stirring crap up! Not surprised Gage almost walked away! Remember Jeff your a father now act with respect, empathy, kindness. Your Monroe is watching it all!
Lea black added fuel to the fire instead of diffusing the situation.
Jenni was caught in an exaggeration of the truth. Her reaction was totally disingenuous. Jeff was wrong for calling her a liar and yelling. He owned that and apologized. Time to own up to your part Jenni. It's clear Jenni is angling for something else. We'll see how that works for her.
I agree. Lea Black was right on the money and what she said seemed to trigger a much needed discussion. Jeff was kind and soft spoken when he told Jenni that she had to go after her dreams while he had to assemble a staff that is aligned with his goals. I wish them both happiness and maybe in time they can be friends again (but I doubt it).
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Lea is Jeff’s enabler. He is a narcissist, she is his “yes-man.”
Although Jeff is not diplomatic & politically correct, he was correct in his assumptions that Jenny was exaggerating... in her job offers.
Jenny has had the BEST opportunity to be able to make money & get married & have children while she pursued her auditions.... she is EXTREMELY blessed!
Chantal Noisin Oh...do you know her personally?
Lea sit down .. and Jeff forgiveness is the true happiness in life .. be a better example for Monroe ... jenni clearly loves u and wants to work with you .. she needs you and you need her .. be real !!!!! God bless you all and this hurts my heart
NOW I KNOW LEA BLACK IS BEHIND JEFF'S ROTTEN BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS JENNI - SHE ENCOURAGED HIM TO BEHAVE EVEN WORSE THAN USUAL
Everyone looses here. Jeff's treatment of Jenni and many other employees over the years has been beyond atrocious. People stay in terrible jobs for many different reasons aside from $$$. Sometimes it is easier to stick with the devil you know. However, Jenni going to Bravo was cheesy and her being "humiliated" comment would incite just about any employer. Jenni let her emotions run wild and so did Jeff just that Jeff has been a little too obviously concerned with "damage control". The comments made here about Jenni's "acting" carrer or lack there of seem on point. Too bad it came to this.
I just wish Lea Black would HUSH (on the show mainly) sometimes. I THINK she's 2 parts messy, 1 part well-intentioned but whatever it is, it's ANNOYING.
H Juss Valentine I like Lea. I don’t think she is annoying. She’s clear & coherent. Good communicator.
@@RC-vv6nr I actually think her presence made things a bit worse. Well-intentioned or not, every argument that happens in your presence isn't yours to mediate. And that laughing 😥😥😥
H Juss Valentine ))
I hate the over use of the "b" word but Jeff insulting her and Lea Black Laughing hysterically felt like a "bully" moment. I agree with Jeff.. she was probably lying.. and I was even fine with what Jeff was saying because him and Jenny always have fights like that.. but that Lea Black chick REALLY took it to another place with her laughing and shit stirring... she was HELLA annoying
Yesssssss thats between Jeff and Jenni she is very messy
OMGosh stop speaking Lea! As far as the lunch....the only reason why he was “acting” civil is because Bravo had already talked to him about his aggressive behavior toward Jenni. So for him to say he is proud of the way he handled that meeting is laughable....he had no choice but to be civil. Jeff is verbally abusive, that is the bottom line. Jenni finally had it and said something and I don’t blame her at all!!! I used to love this show but over the last 3 seasons Jeff has gotten worse and worse. Last season the way he treated Zoila and Gage was HORRIFIC! I literally cringed and would have to fast forward on my DVR bc at points it was just unwatchable. He is not cut out to be the manager of ppl...in no way shape or form. If he wants to build his business bigger and better First....get a real office so your employees are not coming into your HOME ! Second...hire a Human Resource person/persons and let them do their job and deal with the employees. Third....stop saying awful hurtful things to ppl in front of other ppl bc you make a bad situation worse!
I'm glad you're finally beginning shown for the true person/personality you are and from this take a open and honest self inventory. From what I've seen "edited" and just heard you say. I'm not sorry but the problem in your life Jeff Lewis is 100% jeff lewis.. your character defects will keep you in turmoil the rest of your life. I hope you can find someone to help guide you through this process.
You have developed a pattern of berating everyone around you. Whether this is your fault or not, this type of behavior you have shown in every episode. It's not funny, it's abuse.
For real!
If its verbal abuse quit your job and go get something else. Staying then complaining you were verbally abused for years is just stupid.
Jeff you still don’t get it! Count the people you have had problems with! You are being absurd in trying to act the innocent party, when over the years, all you have done is humiliate and berate people that work for you. You should have been accused of long time ago of harassment of the worst kind.
All of Jeff’s employees have one thing in common is Jeff. His ill treatment of people is the reason why he’s utterly alone
Stop talking about this and apologize. You’re friends and u supposedly love her. U don’t treat ppl u love this way. Why would u fire her, that was so stupid. Get over it. I guess the show has been cancelled bc u fired Jenni, bad move. Good grief, life is too short to act like this. Jenni is mortified Jeff, go talk and let it be.
If it's so good working for Jeff why does he have so many people quit?
They quit because they can't take the real world. Not everyone gets a trophy. Only the best make it. Boston Red Sox. Get it?
Dont you all get it?!!!!
The storyline is ALWAYS going to be Jeff "Flipping Out" on someone he works with or is related to..... RATINGS PEOPLE, RATINGS!!!
Because people are lazy as fuck.
I’m on your side of this drama Jeff. Jenni had 10 years to move on with her career and her dreams, they just didn’t pan out, and to blame you is just wrong. Everyone is in charge of their own life.
Unfortunately the show did get cancelled. Finally Jeff sees he can’t get away with just saying whatever he feels in the real life!!!
Your ego and anger always get in your way. People are scared of your mouth of course they are going to stick by you. You are an intimidating person. Try to cover it you are not a very nice person.
One day all will blow up in your face.
I understand you want to take your business next level but did you ever consider that you are where you are because Jenni is so personable and is such a good buffer to make these great relationships with clients? She has this amazing ability to make people including Jeff comfortable. Best of luck Jeff I adore you but I’m sure I love you more because of Jenni
I remember Jenny taking a crack at showbiz back when Zoila was on the show. Needless to say, I'm not her audience ... and i wonder who is. My mouth is not the Bible, but Hollywood saw her desire to be in the business. They come for what they want ... or so I thought. With that said, Jeff employed her generously. He gave her a platform to attempt a career in showbiz and to meet ANOTHER husband ... after she played "suga momma" to the previous husband. Jeff is transparent. He has been consistent and has TOLD all of us exactly who he is. I love me some Jeff Lewis. Call him an asshole, but what you won't do is call him TWO FACED. I find people who show two sides of who they are liars. They're phonies. A friend would have quit to salvage the friendship. She was never his friend to take this to Bravo. I would never do that to a friend. Jeff sincerely apologized. Jenny was embarrassed and was in her feelings because chick was laughing, and felt ganged up on. Jeff has said worse to her for goodness sake. People who self esteem that's so fragile, that anyone can say something and they're destroyed to the core personally are draining & too needy for me. Suck it up and take it like an adult. THAT'S LIFE! Jeff was being Jeff. Pay attention ... Jenny true colors showed up ... finally.
Jeff stop with the 7 stages of grief! You abused an employee that quit. She probably needs counseling. Way to old to be so immature!
Lea playing her part to the T 🙄, girl. Why would Jenni have to call anyone, I’m sure the show runners watch the show and anyone who has watched show knows who Jeff is and how he treats people. He’s been going on about what she did to me, how she made me feel, me me me. Jeff never sees what he does or how he makes others feel or what he does to make situations worse and then he sits back and plays the wounded animal. Jenni does not speak ill of him and she’s not out there ruining his name or business but I’ve seen multiple tapes of him talking about it on the radio to the point if, okay girl let it go already, you’ve beaten this horse to death...a lot.
He has a black heart. He is cruel. Sad...
It was very painful to watch! Jeff and Lea were really acting like mean girls. In the car laughing at her expense was disgusting. Jeff is a very talented individual who I enjoyed watching .. now I’ve lost total respect for him .
I am SO PISSED OFF that they cancelled Flipping Out I want it BACK
It's canceled?!!! For real?! :(
I really hope they will bring it back. I love Jeff and this show. He is real. If things were so bad, Jenni could have left at any point.
They haven't. (Not yet anyway)
@@DellyDoo Jeff loves his show.. if not on Bravo he will show up somewhere.. WeTv, Logo.. there are plenty of networks that would take him on.
The show won’t be the same without the brother/sister relationship between Jeff and Jenni. If they want to continue, they need to find someone that will have that same relationship with Jeff.
And Lea Black was the catalyst. She has a very antiquated vision of the workplace. Yes, Jeff is the “rain maker” and everyone is there to support him and help him make money. However, in the modern workplace, you can’t treat employees with disrespect, make snarky comments, put their personal lives on blast to the entire office and expect them to be loyal and want to support you. It is not the 60’s.
She said she could do better, so let's see how that unfolds.
It’s not that she needs a job. Jenny loves being on TV. That’s why she put up with Jeff. Besides, they both admitted that they hadn’t worked together for real in years. She only played his assistant on the show while they were shooting.
Totally obvious the last couple of seasons that something was off. Jenni flat out blamed Jeff for her lack of acting roles. What a load of crap. How many people want to act and don't get more than bit parts. She claimed to want to have a part on SNL, I don't find her funny. Through the many seasons when she tried to be funny, it fell flat. My opinion, all I saw was her 'acting' the fool.
Yeah, I'll be waiting for Jenni Puolos new movie or drama or tv something... really - I will
Jeff deserves to be sued by Jenni. He said himself he fired her because she made a complaint. That’s retaliation!An employee can make a complaint without fear of being fired. What Jeff did is against the law.👁
He should fire her she is trying get him fired. She was always lazy and used Jeff. She has been just as abrasive as him.
Are you kidding? He didn't fire her because she complained. He fired her because she made it clear that her employment with Jeff was holding her back from an amazing A list movie career. He set her free to explore that option. My prediction is nothing will come of it.
cheryl q THIS!! People twist shit to fit their liking. They don’t like Jeff so they blame him but in this case you speak the truth about Jenni. Based on the first lunch had with the group she was blaming him indirectly & you could see this resentment had been building for some time. She blames him for her lack of acting which is where she clearly wants to be. Not working for Jeff. Face it, nobody would know who she was without this show. It progressed her career for certain. I love that Jeff handled that firing so seamlessly & all he said was genuine. Even better that we were able to witness it. Good riddance, Jenni. See you, never.
Leah Rhodes, I’m not familiar w/laws concerning employee complaints & firing but I’d imagine that it would be difficult to sit & work beside the complainant. What’s an employer to do?
THE COMPLAINT WAS MADE AFTER HE CUT HER LOOSE....
NO RETALIATION..
sometimes holding back on saying something, gives a person a time to think it through before more damage is done
I love Jeff! Do I think he says the wrong thing a lot and doesn’t handle adversity well, YES! He’s a growing human being that is also finding his way. He does learn from his mistakes and really does have a good heart. As far as Jenni goes, she was wrong to call Bravo! Really, what was she trying to achieve...not nice! She is very passive aggressive and does lack good communication skills. I truly do think she is a good person. But she made many mistakes as well. She needs to own her part
Muffy Coors perfectly said👊🏻
Muffy Coors I agree Perfectly said. He’s been 100% him on TV for 10 years. Now Jenni and people are gonna cry Abuse. Give me a break. If you think he’s abusive or “bad” don’t work for him or watch his show. He’s never been a fake about who he is or his character defects which he has worked on and improved since day 1.
Muffy Coors you love Jeff because he’s abusive. Says it all.
HotMessMemories1 you’re an ass #$&*
Looking forward to his new show! Will follow Flipping Out to whatever network is lucky enough to carry him?
I was so ready to defend Jenni but honestly...she got caught in a lie and he called her on it. He actually wasn’t as horrible as he usually is or as I expected. I was actually pretty disappointed that Jenni couldn’t “act” out her lie a little bit more convincingly! 😉😄
Jenni had no real prospects in LA. Lets be real to get real roles in LA one has to look the part a) young b)slim c) and hot. Jenni is way past her prime, that being said Jenni made her choice to be stay with Bravo’s Flipping Out paycheck because it was steady income. We all know how Jeff treats people. Jenni took it for a long time because it was in her interest to do so. Jeff used that as license to mistreat Jenni. Jenni for sure needs to take responsibility but so does Jeff. The way Jeff humiliated her was horrible. No wonder Jeff is alone. Gage and Zoila don’t put up with Jeff’s ratchet behavior.
As Jeff Lewis has pointed out recently, Jenni wasn't his employee, she was Bravo's employee. Why wouldn't she speak to her employer about a castmate screaming, cursing, calling her a liar and trying to humiliate and degrade her? His very delivery of the dismissal was done with a glint in his eye. He was loving his power to humiliate her one more time. She probably won't ever have an acting career, but she likely will have other opportunities. On the other hand, it appears Bravo is distancing itself from Lewis. Good riddance.
She deserved it she was awful and he was good to her put up with her silliness.
@@joylang2800 If he didn't like her silliness he should have just dismissed her. He kept her because she was an asset both to real world business and to the TV show. She's not innocent. She stayed because she liked the money and exposure. If he was a grown up and not a narcissistic egomaniac baby, he would have taken Jenni aside to discuss any issues. Jenni Poulos didn't interfere with his career. He sabotaged himself with his vile personality. Get some therapy.
WhatFC don’t act like you haven’t overstayed your welcome for monetary reasons!
I think it is enough already with Jeff Lewis. He is arrogant, abusive, self centered, hurtful person. Why spend so much time when there is so many more important issues in the world
Everyone stop giving feedback. Let's move on from Jeff Lewis. He is not worth the publicity he is getting. He is a little boy in mens pants.
Without Zola and Jenni, Flipping Out would not have been as successful as it was. Jeff can cut so DEEP, no coming back from that. That Lea Black person would no longer be a friend of mine.
Glad it's cancelled, I wasn't tuning back in after he let Jenni go, he did the same thing with Zola and was so mean to her. The House Manager which did NOTHING looked like to me ratted Zola out.
Good Luck Jenni.
Yeah it sucks with Zoila..and Jenni hasn't been the same.
I hate Lea's voice! SHRILLING!
and her laughter ugh
Leahs voice is post postmenopausal! Extremely annoying like fingernail on a chalkboard#!$:&?!!#
She sounds like a witch, when She laughs👅
Now that I know Lea tried to talk jenni out of starting. WW3 I realize jenni wanted to end it too. But she wants to blame Jeff.
Gage may have believed you this time, but you are burning your chances of having a long and happy life as a family, unless you start respecting and valuing Gage, for the sake of the little girl you so wanted.
You said you wanted to take your business to the next level and you need a talented team to surround you and help you develop your brand. Well you really should work on yourself first and rethink how you treat your employees. Even the most loyal and thick skinned people have a breaking point when it comes to being snarked at and belittled. That being said i'm really sad your show has ended , I really did enjoy it and I hope your next venture is a great success.
Well all things said and done I think a lot of people having now watched the final episode will see things a little differently. I was team Jeff before it aired all it did for me was confirm my suspicions of what and how things went down. Jenny's deluded you can wrap it up and make it sound all pretty if you want but instead of being ashamed of her position at Jeff Lewis design she should of been grateful for the position and the lifestyle it has afforded her, without it she'd of spent the last decade working minimum wage stop gap jobs while attending and being knocked back at all these auditions. Dreams don't pay the bills. Good luck for the future Jeff don't be a stranger update us with the final Valley Vista and don't let Gage go anywhere! 😘😘😘
Jenni is delusional! That’s the right word!
This better explains the timeline of events. I was glad that Jeff handled the lunch well. It was an over time blow up. Jeff has mentioned his younger self and his issues. Perhaps Jenny still lives in those times.
He has a superiority complex. When he is upset, he could be very offensive (Just like Trump). He doesn't know how to talk to his employees. When I saw that scene in the car, I wanted to be Jenny and put him in his place. She was right by reporting him... just because you are the boss, you can't scream "You are a "F***ing liar" to your subordinates. This is not a Banana Republic, mister.
maybe, but she had it coming
She doesn’t communicate well, and doesn’t say what she means no wonder he is frustrated.
Properly Done he didn’t say anything about her being a woman.
Julia Casey i believe the commenter is referring to the original comment not Jeff.
DJR I see
I do agree that you did handle the last lunch with Jenni with great aplomb.
Big deal Jeff ,you contained your anger at the final lunch. Your supposed to be able to do that as an adult with some emotional intelligence. You have a fowl temper and need to spend a lot of time working on that.
After seeing this I actually changed my mind about Jeff's part in this.
Well-done, Jeff..BRAVO😁 Based on the first lunch had with the group she was blaming him indirectly & you could see this resentment had been building for some time. She blames him for her lack of acting which is where she clearly wants to be. Not working for Jeff. Face it, nobody would know who she was without this show. It progressed her career for certain. I love that Jeff handled that firing so seamlessly & all he said in that last scene was genuine & well thought, not impulsive. Even better that we were able to witness it. Good riddance, Jenni. See you, never.
I can’t even look at Jeff’s face anymore.
Yep I feel the same!
Same here!
same
Lol, big shock here, Jeff and Gage are having problems. Jeff cannot keep any relationship.
So Jeff and Gage were having problems (and considering breaking up) even BEFORE the fallout with Jenni. Interesting.
Always enjoyed this show between the drama and the design. Bravo has a lot of shows that I’m not interested in, The housewives of any city .. Andy Cohen bores me when he concentrates more on them than real celebrity guests that I’d rather get to know. Reality T.V. Isn’t something that Interests me . I’m far too busy with the reality of what’s happening in the real world. There are thousands who lost their homes across the country due to fires , hurricanes, tornadoes and mass shootings.. That’s the reality. Jeff, I wish Flipping out wasn’t cancelled and most importantly that a long standing friendship has been destroyed. I’m saddened because losing a friend and that regret stays with you forever, I’ve been there 😢 ..
They should have ended the series with all the people and businesses that Jeff has parted ways with and how similar all their complaints about him are.
Over all this season’s episodes Lea obviously takes exception to Jenny, she really appears to dislike Jenny.
Lea is Jeff's wise, very frank nurturing, business mother/mentor. I hope that their relationship has continued show or no show.
Truly one of my favorite shows. You know, all families go through times just like this.... Unfortunately, this one got televised. Jeff is who he is and Jenny is who she is. To cancel a show because of that is petty in my book. Life is short folks. Sit down, hug it out and get over yourselves. WE all want you on the air. If Jenny needs time away from it, so be it. Work it out off the show and don’t discuss it any longer
all over the public airways... Can you imagine if every sibling squabble led to this????????????? Talk to any mother and ask how many times have they had to listen and hope for the best. Jeff and Jenny are as close as any siblings can be. That is one of the reasons for the squabble.... Like I said. Get over it... Get things worked out as adults with children should be able to do and get on with the filming. Your show means the world to more of us than you will ever know... Here’s hoping...
Bottom line: Jeff needs to learn people skills. I am amazed to see him treat people so badly, when I’ve also seen the good in him. His emotions are all over the place. I wish Jenni well. I enjoyed both her and Zoila. I don’t think Gage contributes anything to the show and Tyler seems a bit of a diva. Maybe it’s time to reformat a series for Jeff.
Definitely.
This entire feud was a well orchestrated publicity stunt meant to help Flipping Out's struggling ratings and give a little boost to Jeff's new radio career. So of course Jeff is done talking about it; the season has ended. BTW, although the "feud" hasn't appeared to help the ratings, Jeff's SIRIUS ((XM)) radio show seems to have benefitted, and Flipping Out will return next year (WITH Jenni, but in a Godmother/friend role) ... so everyone is happy.
Lea was not the problem but a great friend and offered solutions. Jenni wanted drama and she resented the fact that she was let go publicly. The show will do fine as it has without Zoila. Jenni was happy to get to see the tantrums displayed towards others. She needs to move on and should never have tried to take down Jeff in her moment of anger.
When asked a question about the business, she made it all about her sacrifices and you could see she was about to BLOW! Her resentments had been building up (humiliated to work here?) and misdirected at Jeff. Jeff has acknowledged his poor behaviour ad apologized, yet she hasn’t taken any responsibility in this, which is disappointing.
Bring back Flipping Out! It’s the only reason I buy Bravo...
Leah and Jeff are fos!!! Whats your problem. Whats the common denominator in all these bad break ups? YOU- Jeff wake up! You almost broke up with Gage..The best loving lapdog you could ever get. Wake up.
Sharon & Steve Klyczek - Lapdog 😂😂😂 this is so true!
After watching the episode Jenny was way more wrong than Jeff and it’s quite obvious now that she was upset her let her go (so eloquently I might add) that she wanted to then get him in “trouble” in some way by running and telling on him smdh. After she told him it’s humiliating to work for him and essentially he’s holding her back what the hell was he supposed to do?? Let her continue to basically hold him back by not giving 100% while secretly harboring Ill feelings toward him because “he’s holding her back” bullshit!! I LOVE Jeff I’ve been a fan since the first episode and I’ll miss their funny awesome friendships but it was time to part way business wise! I hope they can get back on track personally as him and Ryan have! Plz don’t take Flipping Out away from us!!!! Give us more than 10 damn episodes next season too! ❤️❤️❤️
J M Jeff isn’t abusive he’s abrasive and he also humbles himself to self reflect and apologize when he’s wrong! She drew first blood saying “it’s humiliatingly to work for him” that hurt him. He has as we’ve all seen (and I’m sure in more ways that we haven’t) supported her in every way! She “told” on him because he let her go, she stated herself she didn’t expect to be let go so if he had as she stated to the executives “victimized” and whatever else she said why would she even want to stay??? It was retaliation for him firing her, point blank! She obviously wanted to stay and continue to be “victimized” 🙄. He loves her enough to let her flap her actress wings and she should appreciate that!!! She also said she didn’t file a complaint so what exactly was her purpose for reporting him?? She isn’t a liar but she does lie when it suits her sometimes! Just like when she took that free vacation from that lady at the convention and said she just didn’t think to tell him, she out right lied back then too! She told everyone else about it but kept it from him cuz she KNEW he would not be pleased! They have been friends/fam for years so of course it’s normal for him to be pissed and shout out that his sis is full of shit and lying when he knows she is!!
@@BinaBina221 Exactly! 100% correct
@@BinaBina221 I agree
@@BinaBina221 he was very good to Jennie and he paid her over what she was worth and she used the show to try to get a career acting but she has no talent. She tried to get Jeff fired from his show and she is awful to hurt his livelihood.
Chell Bina You are so right Chell Bina. I totally forgot about the free vacation lie.! Bottom line she has known and worked with Jeff for 16 years. She knows EXACTLY how he is. Attitudes, Abrasiveness, how he runs his office professionally and personally. She could have exited the show, the job, the friendship, the Godmother role etc etc if she thought he was abusive or she was being victimized ! In the last episode that meeting he had with her at the end was so eloquently spoken and with much love from him to her for her to jump on the ME TOO bandwagon is a crock of crap. Come on Jenni I thought you were a better person than to sink to that level of low. He is gay for chrisakes so it’s not gonna fly. If you think Jeff and his employer role are abusiveness Don’t watch and don’t work for him. He’s made it plain and clear who he is on national TV for 10 years!
You can never have a true friendship if you are not on an equal footing. When you have a employee/boss relationship you are not equal and therefore Jenni could never really speak freely without the underlying threat of being punished if she said something that he didn't like. However Jeff was in a position to say whatever he wanted and to be abusive and Jenni could not properly defend herself because of that dynamic. It is a recipe for disaster in a "friendship". Don't fool yourself in to thinking that you have a true friendship if you are not contemporaries. Trying to pretend that you are will only lead to heartbreak. It is the reason that Jeff and Lea are able to be real friends. They are both equal in the relationship. It is also the reason that Jeff is so shocked but Jenni has just moved on. t. She always knew that they were only friends to a point but he didn't understand that because if they had not had this boss/employee dynamic Jenni would have defended herself fully long ago. You really can not buy friends, but that is what Jeff was trying to do.
Love Lea Black! The women she was with for the Miami Housewives show. If she had better cohorts it would still be going.
Lea was good on this episode and I hope Flipping Out comes back. It got a shitty edit this season!
I don't understand what people don't get! You may not like Jeff's delivery or approach at times or in this matter which I will say could've been handled better with an employee as well as with a FRIEND but she did force his hand. She said she wanted to be an actress and her devotion to Jeff halted her career & it was extremely hurtful that he has not appreciated that all while employees quit left & right not only to get rid of him but to truly pursue their true passions AFTER learning so much from Jeff. As a friend & employer he did the right thing and he let her go pursue her love 100%. She can't complain and he needs to staff his business with people who want to build a careers within his business not outside. This is his business 1st people! He had to let her go and she asked him too. Watch the footage again. It was clear. She is playing victim & was wrong for going to Bravo about their issues informally or formally.
T a person who feels like their employer is abusing their position is never wrong for going to management. If a complaint is made it is investigated, if Jeff did nothing then he’d have nothing to worry about but he knows what he did. He created a hostile atmosphere at work, Gage has even said to him on the show that the way he speaks to his employees would burn him some day. As a boss you can be jovial but Jeff crossed a line demeaning Jenni, mocking her acting on his radio show, he crossed a line. Anyone who watches the show should be shocked Jenni stayed as long as she did, that’s a friend and Jeff spit in her face for it
@@Manx36 You are absolutely right. An employee should take issues of abuse or other up with upper management if the employer is abusive. If that employer is also your FRIEND you could speak to them about it as well because then what happens to the friendship or work relationship now that you've gotten upper management involved. Okay you get what you want but clearly the friendship changes there is no way around that and at the end of the day he is still the boss and he can still fire you or you can quit. That's the point. She could've quit anytime and told her friend don't speak to me that way your no longer my boss. She didn't! You can't have it both ways. You want it all professional or you want it all friendly. Either way it's his business and the EMPLOYEE is going to be the one to leave. If Jenni doesn't like Jeffs attitude how is she going to be an actress? The casting couch is tougher than Jeff I guarantee!
T You said it 100% right on! People on this comment post line either are not listening or not watching the last episode. Jeff is Jeff he’s been this way since day 1! He used to be worse ! She could be accused of using him now at this point. He owned the crap from the last episode. Jenni was stunned stupid in the final restaurant meeting scene. Watch it again and watch her ANGER build in her face and eyes! Jeff has my support in this 100% and I love Jenni too but guess whose true colors came
Out in this one. HERS! It should be a new Jeff Lewis paint color. “Payback from Pulos” a smoldering shade of RED.
@Christian Alexander Okay I guess I'm not being clear or that is just simply being overlooked by someone's constant ways... Although I agree with some of what you've said about him What I'm saying is Jeff owns his own company as well as works for Bravo. He has 2 jobs. If you don't like the owner quit! If you can work it out then do that but at the end of the day the owner isn't going to bend for just anybody... maybe a FRIEND... so I would approach my friend/boss as a friend and discuss our issues. Most bosses aren't nice. Jeff just has more contact with his employees than most. I couldn't work for Jeff, but I could be friends with Jeff because I think he is a good friend. Honest, reliable helpful fun and yes a jerk but I think you can be a jerk back and you can tell him when he has crossed the line and he will truly try to work on things if he values the friendship. I like to know what Im getting myself into and with Jeff you know! I like that period. I believe that if Jenni cant handle Jeff then she will have a tough time becoming an actress. Hollywood is not and they definitely don't care about your feelings and aren't your friends.
@Christian Alexander I've seen all the shows... lol and your getting caught up on one thing and I'm talking about the whole situation and the entire relationship but okay. You have your opinion and I have mine. I know people I know what I saw.
That lunch conversation showed that Jenni's friendship was disingenuous. She didn't even try to talk it out very passive aggressive.
@J M exactly she obviously was hanging around for a check. Now that the checks gone, no more relationship. She even said herself she didn't expect to get fired
These 2 were more than friends. She is Monroes Godmom for goodness sakes! She basically got him the job at Bravos. She first went to Bravo to pitch a show. They saw Jeff and thought they could make a show around him with Jenny as his already assistant. So many times he has belittled Jenny and the rest of his staff. Has any of your bosses talked to you and treated you like he does his employees. I doubt it. Hes abusive!. He has his fun and nice side but no way should anyone put up with his behaviour. And to do it infront of other employees and a client. Inexcusable
Jenni does not need the check, Her husband is a Surgeon and Jenni has enough money of their own if they can be buying a 4 million dollar home to live in. She had to really care about Jeff to hang around him for 16 years. Just like Zola he allowed others to drive a wedge between them, most likely because they were jealous of their relationship. Its sad because I liked the show, but Jeff drove the nail into that coffin all by himself..
@@wallyhodges then how do you explain her taking "we shouldn't work together anymore" as "we're no longer friends or have a relationship"? I'm not saying that Jeff is not an condescending asshole but he has always been that way. So now that you're not a main character on the show, there's no more relationship? That's bogus.
YEZZZZ!
I hv stated from day one that Jenni is passive/aggressive!!!
Glad to know Im not the only one who observed this.
Are we still milking this storyline?!
LOL It just concluded last night! How is 12 hours after events milking? If it's going on next season maybe then it's milking something dry.
This was being discussed way before the episode aired.
Yes Jeff!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I think Jeff did give a genuine apology. I think what Jenny said about being humilated working for Jeff was very hurtful. She knew Jeff, she knows he can be very nasty but she also was hurtful. I think Jenny was wrong. She seems unhappy on some otber level. That being said Flipping Out has run its course. Time to move on.
As viewers we are entertained by his dark and unforgiving humor, and have somehow supported it in the grand scheme of things. But I will agree ... Jeff has been, and is verbally abusive when he's upset in particular. But Jeff is obviously working through things as we all are, but his just happens to be in a public format. What Jeff has done to Jenni this time, wasn't much different than the others. I just think it hit a tipping point. It was toxic, and she broke.... thats it.
Jeff will end up lonely and it will come to the point know one will have anything to wirh you jeff.
Its hard work having a drama queen as a friend.
I agree with Jeff- his apology touched on everything he was feeling, what he did wrong and what he really feels about Jenni and their friendship. It was very sincere and he was honest. I didn't realize or hear what Jenni had said about how working for him was "humiliating" for her. And understanding it now I see why his emotions were so high and that it hurt him deeply. I think sadly this is an important split that will at least change him for the better in the future. When he's mad he's incredibly mean, and it just doesn't fit in the bigger picture and causes so much pain and regret. Jenni said it all- the look on her face said it all- 11 years of that behavior from Jeff when he's going for the jugular - at some point it's over. She went dead inside to it. Anyone would. Whatever was miscommunicated the whole conversation with cameras and Leah and Meghan and Tyler it was not the time or the place to be self righteous. Don't do that with your friends and loved ones. Just don't. Stop trying to be "RIGHT". It's self serving. Just try to get to the truth and be compassionate in the process. I hope they can come back from this someday-.
@@kam5925 Jeff says HE heard it that way, according to this podcast.
Look where Gage is now!
incredibly hypocritical of her to stay in the show all these years if she felt tortured and abused. or wait, did she stay coz she couldn't get an acting gig?
This Lea Black person is obnoxious. I see why she and Jeff get along they're both full of themselves. She was definitely stirring the pot. It wasn't the time to keep the conversation going. They needed to take a break, cool off then talk about it.
Gage is a blessing for you
i miss the show........
He is abusive. He went too far. I don't blame Jenny for finally cutting ties.
Love Jeff
Really respect Lea Black. She has given Jeff Lewis amazing mentoring and advise. Jeff Lewis needs and deserves very committed loyal staff who are as like minded and driven as he is. With his talent he really should be an international brand. Leave the staff who have other aspirations to go after their dreams full tilt as well as those who use Jeff Lewis Design as a launch pad and come and go as they please.
Sick of the staff who acted like he was a misfit and they were victims...
. No one held a gun to their heads to work there.
I think Jenni sadly confused friendship with job security and while I really think she is talented she lost site of ...IT is JEFF LEWIS DESIGN...not the Jenni & Jeff Lewis design show. Glad they have gone their separate ways.....
I think it was absolutely ridiculous to have management present in an excercise like this.
Lea Black is still playing housewives antics. Girl, Miami has been gone a long time.
I Love you, Jeff!!!
if they are REAL friends, she will remain friends even though she doesnt work for him anymore. what??? she isnt friends with him anymore since the paycheck stopped?!!!!! oh well then, that tells the story, doesnt it?!
Jenni was never lying. She was offered an audition. She had an offer!
This lady Lea Black is soooo wise! 💖💖💖
Jeff is a total jerk. Always has been, always will be. It is just part of his personality. Jeff has low self esteem so belittles others to make himself feel more important. I would like him to be poor for the rest of his life and know how it feels to struggle to make ends meet. He is also very abusive to Gage. Everyone needs to move on and leave Jeff on his own.
This is a little late but when I watch the episode before the finale,
Lea said Jeff needs to let go of things no matter how much he loved and adored them...she meant Jenni. P.s. the show must go on....or I’m gonna be pissed 😆
I love Lea Black!
❤️ you Jenni! Hope you find what you’re looking for. I also hope you and Jeff can come back together some day.
💙
I don’t trust Jenni
When oh when, is this going away??? Thank the Lord, you just said you won’t talk about this anymore after today. Let’s see if your multiple personality traits can actually follow through. Or as my daddy used to say,
“You might have let your mouth overload your ass”. We shall see. 11.21.2018.
I think Lea's 'tutoring' triggered both Jenni and the other person to think more deeply about what they really want in life. One quit after the speech. Jeff said that Jenni wasn't listening. But he didn't see her thinking and processing. That's why I believe she said what she did. Jeff took it as disconnected. He, of course, didn't handle it well immediately. But he knows that. He did handle the lunch well. I think their time has come. She can use this time to take her acting career to a new level. Who cares if she had an offer or an offer with a required screening first. It's irrelevant. She seems burnt out on this show and working with him. Just a shame their friendship had to end this way.
what was the reason in the first place, that made jenny feel that way?? dont understand
Leah was uncomfortable duh that's why she was laughing
Bravo's probably really angry that Jeff let Jenni go. Jenni was an employee of Bravo, rather than Jeff Lewis Design. With Jeff publicly dismissing Jenni that has to have created a conflict with her contract to Bravo. What other choice will Bravo have but to terminate the show?
So many of you got it wrong. Jenni gave you all a HUGE 'tell' as to whose story is bullshit. When she and Jeff were at lunch, and he said that he thought about it, and decided that they should part (professional) ways, so that Jenni could give "100%" of herself to her acting career, Jenni's face dropped, like; "HUH?!?" She *said herself* that she was NOT expecting to be let go. She thought he invited her to lunch to work things out, and that she would RETURN to working for JLD. It was only *after* she realized that she was NOT going back, that she was oh-so-suddenly crying "abuse", etc. Maybe everyone else didn't 'see' you, Jenni, but I DID!
I can't remember the last episode cause it was so long ago, what happened to everyone ? I'm assuming Jeff will be growing old alone because he gets off on degrading everyone around him, and anyone with any self worth will eventually walk away from him. I pray for his child , and Jenni, will still be trying to become a actress ? The show was good up to a point, until Jeff had to be the center of attention and degrade his boyfriend and employees.