Schissen is a very familiar concept in Northeast Asian martial arts. In Chinese culture, including Korea, my home country, it is expressed as the character "鑽" which means to pierce, which means that the sword is rotated and schissened. Schissen rising from the bottom uses the word "穿", which has the same meaning, and Schissen straight uses the word "鑿", making a more detailed distinction. This character distinguishes it from “斬,” “劈,” and “砍,” which mean cutting. In Japanese Kendo, Schissen developed into the most basic striking method. The 7th cut in saber & broadsword is the same type. As everyone knows, Schissen is far from a strong strike, but it has overwhelming power in pushing the opponent's sword aside and gaining an advantageous position. Some people are of the view that in actual swordsmanship, small attacks were not used because the opponent had to be killed. However, looking at hs3227a, the Pseudo-Peter von Danzig's manual that I value, and the sword techniques of Northeast Asia, it is confirmed that people in the old days were well aware of the usefulness of each and used them as needed. The idea that only big cuts are useful is rather the imagination of people who don't know actual fighting, and is like someone who claims that hitting a punch machine loudly means being good at real fightings. A true fighter uses compact and large attacks as needed.
This is really well done. Very useful info, clear demonstrations and explanations and no 'fluff' so it's easy to understand. Thank you so much! This is the first of your videos ive seen and you've already got a new subscriber :)
This concept is like the very essence of the Hs3227a itself. I didn't know how to name it (so must read again), but at our group this worked very well for nachraissen or defending against fehler and now I see exactly why :-) Thanks!
I train at Digladior, Czech Republic. Apart from that I have a little training group at my village, where we also go by KdF teachings, but focusing mostly on the basic tempo and distance stuff. Your videos deserve more interest, so I try to do some ;-) . If I have one complain, it is in this case the music, it's not bad, but just somewhat overused at the swordfighting circles ;-)
After the recommendation from mr. Ondřej H I will follow your channel too.. it is quite interresting and way more informative than existing majority of "HEMA for D&D nerds" videos and channels here on YT.. good work!
Any chance on getting your thoughts on the practical implementation of Schiessen with Krumphau and Zverhau? The videos by AK on Zornhau and Schiellhau are fantastic, and based on your videos here I expect that if you made some on Krumphau and Zverahu they would be fantastic! Please, please, please! 😄
2:07 is very similar to my club's interpretation of the first play of the first master of zogho largo from fiore the only difference is that we take an offline step with the front foot
Footwork is not an inherent part of schiessen, so it could just as well be performed the way you described. But it is crucial, according to my understanding, to complete schiessen *before* commiting with footwork, as doing it the other way round robs it of its pushing power. Anyway, thanks for the comment!
I just love how the video is planned and presented, I always found other videos to be a bit too slow paced, though it's probably needed when explaining complicated concepts, but what really makes the difference is how many different scenarios you guys threw into the video. I always had a problem with "ok, so I know how to do things from my right shoulder coz I've seen it in the video, now how the fuck do I do it in the other 3 opennings."
At your service! :) Here is a bunch of clips from my visit at Swordfish 2017, focused specifically on schiessen: www.patreon.com/posts/project-hausbuch-18568513 Here is my most recent tournament footage, in which I used my reconstruction of the martial system from Hs3227a while fighting in replicas of medieval shoes: www.patreon.com/posts/54166185 If you browse the web for "maciej talaga" you may find my older fights, including Swordfish 2011.
I work with the so-called 'Nuremberg Codex' (GNM HS3227a). There's *much* more on this in the article I also linked in the description above: www.patreon.com/posts/16167086/
@@Sprechfenster Thank you. I started Longsword Liechtenauers (mainly cod 44 A 8) several years ago, but a few years ago I switched to Sword and Buckler, Liechtenauer/Liechniczer system. Since Liechniczer uses the same terms as Liechtenauer I am trying to ent the Liechtenauer LS techniques on the Liechniczer SnB and see how that goes. For the moment it goes quite well I have to say, yet the presance of a buckler and the shorter sword give some other advantages/disadvantages so "one on one" enting is not possible. thank you for the video and the link. Kind regards Sean
Sure! It is given at the end of the video (click the 'info' icon in the upper right corner), but you may find them also on my playlist here: ruclips.net/video/sMVNKpHTY5A/видео.html
Hello Frank. No problem - only that I am not sure I know how to do it ;) YT says that you could start by clicking this link: ruclips.net/user/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCXL4eIa_11kh2WaaeTlqazw&tab=2 Try it out and contact me in case of any questions. Take care!
With most feders much depends on the technique. Fingerwork and edge placement relative to the target will affect whether the feder yields (see e.g. 1:16 here) or remains relatively stiff (e.g. 1:05). The particular model I used in this video (R.I.P.) wasn't exceptionally rigid (14 kg flex).
No, basically it's placing your sword in the position of the optimal reach in a given context (usually it will be at the shoulder level, parallel to the ground) simultaneously supporting it with the strength of your body (legs, core, arms). It can be used as a stop thrust (e.g. shots 4, 10, 11 or 25), but has other uses as well (compare e.g. shots 7, 18, 19 or 24). I also recommend reading the companion article with detailed explanations: www.patreon.com/posts/16167086 Regards!
Schissen is a very familiar concept in Northeast Asian martial arts. In Chinese culture, including Korea, my home country, it is expressed as the character "鑽" which means to pierce, which means that the sword is rotated and schissened. Schissen rising from the bottom uses the word "穿", which has the same meaning, and Schissen straight uses the word "鑿", making a more detailed distinction. This character distinguishes it from “斬,” “劈,” and “砍,” which mean cutting.
In Japanese Kendo, Schissen developed into the most basic striking method. The 7th cut in saber & broadsword is the same type. As everyone knows, Schissen is far from a strong strike, but it has overwhelming power in pushing the opponent's sword aside and gaining an advantageous position.
Some people are of the view that in actual swordsmanship, small attacks were not used because the opponent had to be killed. However, looking at hs3227a, the Pseudo-Peter von Danzig's manual that I value, and the sword techniques of Northeast Asia, it is confirmed that people in the old days were well aware of the usefulness of each and used them as needed.
The idea that only big cuts are useful is rather the imagination of people who don't know actual fighting, and is like someone who claims that hitting a punch machine loudly means being good at real fightings. A true fighter uses compact and large attacks as needed.
Thank you for this interesting perspective, I learned something new!
This is really well done. Very useful info, clear demonstrations and explanations and no 'fluff' so it's easy to understand. Thank you so much!
This is the first of your videos ive seen and you've already got a new subscriber :)
Thank you! Glad to see that people are still watching this one ;)
This concept is like the very essence of the Hs3227a itself. I didn't know how to name it (so must read again), but at our group this worked very well for nachraissen or defending against fehler and now I see exactly why :-) Thanks!
You're welcome! :) By the way, since it's not the first comment from you, where do you train?
I train at Digladior, Czech Republic. Apart from that I have a little training group at my village, where we also go by KdF teachings, but focusing mostly on the basic tempo and distance stuff.
Your videos deserve more interest, so I try to do some ;-) . If I have one complain, it is in this case the music, it's not bad, but just somewhat overused at the swordfighting circles ;-)
I see and thanks again :) I'll try to fix the music thing, but frankly I'm a tasteless person in that regard, so I won't promise anything :P
After the recommendation from mr. Ondřej H I will follow your channel too.. it is quite interresting and way more informative than existing majority of "HEMA for D&D nerds" videos and channels here on YT.. good work!
Wow, a great vid. Now I have 1 more way of dealing with my overagressive opponents. Luv u
Wow, love this!! Thanks for the detailed explanation.
My pleasure, really! :)
Well done! Fantastic, insightful video even a novice like me can really appreciate!
Thanks a lot, I'm glad :)
Great explanation and interesting technique!
Thank you!
Great video!.. and a nice music from the One Epic Knight runner-game :)
Thanks ;)
i've played that much blade and sorcery that the music used in this video makes me think of the mass genocides i have done
This is pretty neat! I like it. Additional points for the CF-Feder. ;)
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Any chance on getting your thoughts on the practical implementation of Schiessen with Krumphau and Zverhau? The videos by AK on Zornhau and Schiellhau are fantastic, and based on your videos here I expect that if you made some on Krumphau and Zverahu they would be fantastic! Please, please, please! 😄
Lovely demonstrations!
Thank you, sir! :)
What a wealth of information. I love this video.
Glad you like it!
2:07 is very similar to my club's interpretation of the first play of the first master of zogho largo from fiore the only difference is that we take an offline step with the front foot
Footwork is not an inherent part of schiessen, so it could just as well be performed the way you described. But it is crucial, according to my understanding, to complete schiessen *before* commiting with footwork, as doing it the other way round robs it of its pushing power. Anyway, thanks for the comment!
I just love how the video is planned and presented, I always found other videos to be a bit too slow paced, though it's probably needed when explaining complicated concepts, but what really makes the difference is how many different scenarios you guys threw into the video. I always had a problem with "ok, so I know how to do things from my right shoulder coz I've seen it in the video, now how the fuck do I do it in the other 3 opennings."
Great to hear that! :)
I wish you would post your tournament videos
At your service! :)
Here is a bunch of clips from my visit at Swordfish 2017, focused specifically on schiessen: www.patreon.com/posts/project-hausbuch-18568513
Here is my most recent tournament footage, in which I used my reconstruction of the martial system from Hs3227a while fighting in replicas of medieval shoes: www.patreon.com/posts/54166185
If you browse the web for "maciej talaga" you may find my older fights, including Swordfish 2011.
@@Sprechfenster Thank you!
excellent video, very clear camera angles and white background master stroke (excuse the pun)
I think I'm blushing ;) Thank you!
What is that little thrust pad you're using?
Pssst. It's this: www.amazon.com/HemingWeigh-Inflated-Stability-Exercise-Including/dp/B00HS5IGW4
But promise you won't tell anyone!
Will topic of shiessen in master strikes be continued?
Yes, that's the plan. But at the moment I am gathering experience and data to deliver that with quality.
Thank you for this nice video.
You talk about the codex? on what codex is your interpretation based?
Kind regards
Sean
I work with the so-called 'Nuremberg Codex' (GNM HS3227a). There's *much* more on this in the article I also linked in the description above: www.patreon.com/posts/16167086/
@@Sprechfenster Thank you. I started Longsword Liechtenauers (mainly cod 44 A 8) several years ago, but a few years ago I switched to Sword and Buckler, Liechtenauer/Liechniczer system. Since Liechniczer uses the same terms as Liechtenauer I am trying to ent the Liechtenauer LS techniques on the Liechniczer SnB and see how that goes. For the moment it goes quite well I have to say, yet the presance of a buckler and the shorter sword give some other advantages/disadvantages so "one on one" enting is not possible.
thank you for the video and the link.
Kind regards
Sean
You are fucking genius
This is so awesome
Well, I won't argue with you on that ;P
But seriously: Thank you very much!
Can you give us a link to the Trnavsky sermiarsky cech videos?
Sure! It is given at the end of the video (click the 'info' icon in the upper right corner), but you may find them also on my playlist here: ruclips.net/video/sMVNKpHTY5A/видео.html
Hello. Can you provide resources for translating subtitles for your video?
Hello Frank. No problem - only that I am not sure I know how to do it ;) YT says that you could start by clicking this link: ruclips.net/user/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCXL4eIa_11kh2WaaeTlqazw&tab=2
Try it out and contact me in case of any questions.
Take care!
Hello again! We send to you correct subtitles. Please, apply this to video. Thank you!
Already done, thanks a lot for your contribution!
that feder is scary stiff
With most feders much depends on the technique. Fingerwork and edge placement relative to the target will affect whether the feder yields (see e.g. 1:16 here) or remains relatively stiff (e.g. 1:05). The particular model I used in this video (R.I.P.) wasn't exceptionally rigid (14 kg flex).
So Schiessen is basically a stop thrust..?
No, basically it's placing your sword in the position of the optimal reach in a given context (usually it will be at the shoulder level, parallel to the ground) simultaneously supporting it with the strength of your body (legs, core, arms). It can be used as a stop thrust (e.g. shots 4, 10, 11 or 25), but has other uses as well (compare e.g. shots 7, 18, 19 or 24). I also recommend reading the companion article with detailed explanations: www.patreon.com/posts/16167086
Regards!