Project Hausbuch #5: Study in motion - Oberhaw

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

Комментарии • 33

  • @Shiresgammai
    @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +2

    Anton Kohutovic is by far the best HEMA fencer. I believe that a big part of his success is his study of sports fencing and bio mechanism, two things which almost all HEMA fencers completely ignore.

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  2 года назад +1

      Also, he used to be a figure skater, which explains a thing or two as well ;)

    • @Shiresgammai
      @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +1

      @@Sprechfenster Absolutely! The dancers I know are all excellent fencers. They are flexible and agile. Did you know that "Fechtmeister" (fencing masters) and "Tanzmeister" ("dancing masters", dancing teachers) in the HRE were often the same people?

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  2 года назад +1

      @@Shiresgammai Yes, I am aware of it :) In fact, I had a section on it the PhD thesis, but sadly my supervisor made me delete it to save some space for other stuff. Anyway, this connection is hardly surprising when one comes to think about it - dacing and fencing share quite some core skills and historically dancing was an important part of the physical conditioning of men-at-arms.

    • @Shiresgammai
      @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +1

      @@Sprechfenster That's true! I'm sorry to hear that this part was deleted from your thesis. Dancing and fencing both require great physical skils, hence why combining the two makes a lot of sense and sword dances are still common around the world (my grandfather used to do sword dances when he was a young man, hehe).

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  2 года назад +1

      @@Shiresgammai Exactly. And where was your grandfather from? Germany?

  • @syyskuu
    @syyskuu 5 лет назад +9

    Holy shoot what a gorgeous video. Must be a crazy amount of work to produce. Reading the texts takes a lot of pausing, but for me that's okay. Valuable study material!

  • @bigtreecombatacademy2927
    @bigtreecombatacademy2927 5 лет назад +5

    Great video , I’m obsessed with very similar mechanics for Oberhau and really any deep target vorschlag

    • @Shiresgammai
      @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +1

      Use training methods from sports fencing, it's that easy.

    • @bigtreecombatacademy2927
      @bigtreecombatacademy2927 2 года назад +1

      @@Shiresgammai not sure it would apply very well to a passing step Oberhau but yes

  • @estherin1031
    @estherin1031 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing video mate, you're really putting a great deal of work out here for everyone, really appreciate it.

  • @christianmunch9627
    @christianmunch9627 4 года назад +1

    Great video! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.

  • @robinmullerstegeman1087
    @robinmullerstegeman1087 2 года назад

    Hab Dank for this great channel 🙏

  • @AngelChernaevHistoricalFencing
    @AngelChernaevHistoricalFencing 3 года назад +2

    Can I suggest to keep the explanations a bit longer on the screen, specially when you have a few. As much as I enjoy the build in and out they have I find myself needing to pause them a lot.
    What I’ve always find uncomfortable for me about Anton’s ober is that this execution requires you to already be in range to hit without a step. Which if I want to perform with the percussion point of a shorter LS(120-5 cm overall) makes the distance and time extremely short.
    I loved the exercises shown at the end

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  3 года назад +1

      Thanks a lot for sharing your remarks. As for the explanations, that's been my thought as well and I gonna make sure that's fixed next time.
      And about the distance thing - this mechanics gets a bit complicated as you noticed, if you strive to hit with farther parts of the blade, as it is heavily point-centred.
      With more striking-oriented approach certain abandonment of the "precedence of the point" principle is usually necessary.

  • @KaVeikiaSimas
    @KaVeikiaSimas 5 лет назад

    Great video, thanks.

  • @koenigsong9871
    @koenigsong9871 5 лет назад

    Mark!very useful!!

  • @sl4469
    @sl4469 5 лет назад +2

    Vorschlag of 3227a is not just a “first intention attack”, it’s a concept of taking the initiative against the opponent, even if he is already in process of making first intention attack. e.g. the Play of Zornhau -ort, where the opponent is the first one to strike, but after your Vorschlag(which is Zornhau in that play) he loses the initiative and you is free to perform series of safe attacks.

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  5 лет назад +2

      You are certainly right. This is why I stressed that what I was looking for in this video was an "direct Vorschlag", i.e. a first intention attack. Perhaps I could be clearer about that there is more to the Vorschlag concept than just that.

  • @Indisarraye
    @Indisarraye 5 лет назад

    I'm not sure who is fighting in Minsk, but that's not Ying.

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  5 лет назад

      Hm, are you sure? I saw him on the pool list though... Any hypotheses who's there in that vid fighting against Rensen?

    • @Indisarraye
      @Indisarraye 5 лет назад +1

      @@Sprechfenster 100% that's not him. He wears black and has our school's patch on his back.

    • @Sprechfenster
      @Sprechfenster  5 лет назад +1

      @@Indisarraye Okay, my bad then, should have double checked :/ I'll add a clarification in the description, but from what I know I can't do anything more without deleting the video and re-uploading it with corrections...
      Anyway, thank you for this!

    • @Indisarraye
      @Indisarraye 5 лет назад

      @@Sprechfenster Understandable. It was probably his pool, but they didn't put up the match order for us to follow at home.

    • @thestuffmonster9856
      @thestuffmonster9856 5 лет назад

      Seems to be the same fencer who fought Martin in the first round of the elims- Su Hongtao, from China I believe? If he’s in the same pool as Michel and Ying, that must be him.