Learn How To Make DUB Music ['Roots Makers' DUB Stems] - Behringer Eurorack Mixer
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2022
- In this Video I'm going to show you how to make a Reggae Dub Mix with a small setup.
Only 6 Stems and 2 Aux returns were used.
Having Fun with the Roots Makers Dub Stems.
Enjoy
Used Gear:
-DAW: Logic Pro X
-Interface: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen
-Mixer: Behringer Eurorack MX 2004A
-Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO
-Effect Pedals:
TC Electronic - Flashback mini Delay;
TC Electronic - Bloodmoon Phaser;
EHX Bassballs;
Stagg BX - Reverb;
Behringer FX600;
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Thats maybe not the most flexible but definitely the most organic and fun way of dubbing 👌
thanks for the comment!
yea, we tried to make the setup as small as possible
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Great video quality, lovely track and uncomplicated approach to the setup.
If I may add:
The secret, and vital part missing from this video, is gain staging = adjusting the output from the DAW to a suitable level for the desk's preamps.
When you find good DAW output level and desk input gain settings, the noise and lack of signal integrity some of us unfamiliar with this step can experience, won't be a problem.
It's the effects pedals that can be more problematic because they expect very low, instrument level signal (not line level coming from pro audio equipment) so you will generally have low aux masters to not overdrive the pedals by too much.
When the signal flowing through is at full level into the pedals, and you give it some more, you're just pumping the noise floor up to meet the signal!
Hope this elucidates some more for the curious!
I really learned a lot from this. I won't ever Dub but it's cool to see where this style comes from. Thank you for one of the best production qualities I've ever seen on RUclips.
I’m back watching this for inspiration and I have to big up the quality of the lesson and editing. Takes a lot of time and effort to put this together - thank you!
thank you so much, very appreaciate!
btw you can find more detailed dub tutorials on our channel, maybe you will find more useful info as well
Wonderful, thank you for elucidating
Thank you for this videos there are really nice and necessary 👍🔥
thanks for the comment, appreciate!
wowwww thanks man, i love this video 🤘❤
Hey there, thanks for the comment❤ Of course, our pleasure! Btw, there are some other Dub Tutorials on our channel, maybe you can find more useful information
That was wicked thanks for showing us how to dub it
Hey Robert, how u doing? Thanks for the comment and thanks for your appreciation! It means a lot🔥
Find deine Einführung und deinen Dub extremst geil, vielen Dank dafür! Sehr, sehr geil! 😊❤
Super gerne! Wir danken dir für deinen Support! Best Regards aus der UK
@@SteppersDivision Wir haben zu danken für diese wunderbare Musik, Best Regards to the UK from Germany. 🙂👍👍❤️❤️
Er labert nur, natürlich habt ihr damit gezeigt, wie Dub geht, in einfacher Version! Liebe es einfach! ❤️❤️❤️
Danke! Macht weiter so! ❤️
Awesome demonstration. Very mellow mix, great stuff.
hey there, thanks for the comment! feel free to check out our other videos as well
@@SteppersDivision would you recommend this mixer?
nah not really, there are way better devices on the market already
this is a very old mixer i bought 4th hand probably, haha
Very nice video, well explained and simple! Thanks
thank you very much for the comment!
yes, the idea was to keep it simple as possible
bless up
excellent!
Thank you! Cheers!
thank you
great!
Nice video and channel man.
heyhey, thanks for the comment, very much appreciate!
btw, we dropping a new (live) video tomorrow, stay tuned dada, bless up
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This is Great.
I was so inspired by your video that I purchased exact same equipment, received all except interface, arriving soon.
I will be purchasing Logic Pro as well and have a newer Mac air book.
I've also purchased a Logic Pro book, arriving soon..
Few questions, can I run another output to amp/speakers from mixer or interface...?
and what is needed to have interface work with Logic Pro/Computer..?
Not sure there's any easy answer, but any tips will help.
Thank You...
wooooooo 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
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I used to have that mixer in 1996!
haha😅
@@SteppersDivision You know what's crazy?? I would have never imagined they'd go into making synthesizers, especially remakes of classic synths! 🔮
dude! they making great stuff nowadays. Im aslo very impressed by Behringer lately
Cool original pedals you use !! Original dubber
thanks for the comment and thanks for the support! bless
I also dub with behinger. If you like it you can check it on my channel
Nice version ! Great 💥
Thanks 🔥🔥
Hello 🤗 My mixer only have one Aux, ..can i connect the pedals in series and use the switches to engage them and use the aux dial for the amount 🙏🙏❤️ Love cheers
Thank you for all great info and passion. Question, when you record back to the DAW do you just do a stereo mix? I'm trying the multi-channel style for more flexibility but my FX's don't show up on the recording. My desk is a Soundcraft spirit 8 so I can assign the channels to FX that are on separate channels this is the only way the FX will show up on the recording but there is "bleed" of the other instrument on tracks that have been assigned the same FX.
hey there, thanks for the comment..
u can record the aux output from the mixer maybe?
@@SteppersDivision Thanks, I'll try that.
Hey, thank you for your videos, I'm trying out myself ! I have a question, do you connect e mono to stereo jack in inputs 1&2 ?
Or is it two separate cables, Left on input 1 and Right on input 2 maybe ?
Hopefully you can explain :)
Hey there, thanks for the comment and for your question! Sooo sorry for our late response, your comment got lost in the traffic😅
so for the feed into input 1&2 we used 2 standard stereo patch cables, but the recording itself was a L-R mono link in order to match the L-R input volume.
It should work out the same way if you would use mono cables,
or even if you record input 1 and 2 on seperate mono channels. Just need to make sure that u match the input volumes, otherwise your recording could end up slightly louder on one side
great video！I love your music. I would like to ask you which type of delay effector you use
hey, thanks for the comment, in this video im using a Flashback mini from TC.
but theres no lack of good delays out there, u can get creative.
btw, the dub stems used in this video are from the Roots Makers , its not our original music. check out, Roots Makers and DM Kahn, those guys are great
Will a depusheng Da 12 work for this thank you
Do the efx return go into an insert or input on each channel depending on how many efx I’m running?
Nice video. Curently looking to have an hybrid analog/digital setup. How would you solve it using external pedals and digital faders (livid ds1)
Thanks for the comment!
i actually started dubbing with plugins and a fader controller, which was the 'Icon Platform M+' aaaand i personally did not like the workflow so much... FOR DUB..
First i could send AUX only from my interface outputs via routing plugins.. (in Logic you got the 'I/O Utility')
which means that working with outboard gear was always kinda tricky to setup,, required lots of mapping, and i ended up using more plugins instead, because it was more handy.
And second, i could always access only one midi path per channel on the Icon.. (select channel, do the fx, select another channel again, and so on)
I couldnt for example make 2 different effects on 2 channels simultaneosly (Split second delay on the snare while turning reverb up on the guitar for example, etc.)....
for writing automations, producing, and similar, are faderports awesome. But interactive live performance is different, and analog equipment felt always more natural and more fun..
Besides im not using so much midi controllers anyway, so probably not the right person to ask 😅
On a analog mixer each knob works at the same time and you got dem right under your fingertips. So you can send several chanells to several effects, all at once if you wish so.. Group sends to different effects, EQ, Inserts, Monitoring and so on...
And especially you see your settings on the controller, right away. You dont have to look to your DAW, back to the mixer, back to the DAW and so on.. so you eliminate this back and forth kinda thing, which is better for performing.
-but those are just my experiences, probably i just made something wrong in my hybrid setup, the Livid Ds1 seems to have the ability controlling more midi per channel.. im pretty sure there are solutions out there. Guess its just about mapping and trying out.
-btw using guitar pedals is better with a reamp box
Hope it was helpful, if you got any questions, dont hesitate to ask!
And im also recommending DM Kahn's RUclips channel, he does very good Tutorials.
Great setup. I'm moving a lot and I'm doing something more flexible. I'm not sure what you mean by more midi per channel. I'm using ableton live and launch Contol xl. I have 2 or 3 sends per channel, usually reverb delay and phaser. I am trying to use my guitar pedals but I will need an audio interface with more out. Atm I have the scarlett 2i2.
Awesome video -
The effects/aux returns are going in track 7 and 8? Do you keep their volume up? And that means on an 8 channel board with two auxiliary channels you’re only going to dub 6 instruments? Thanks!
hey, thanks for the comment, appreciate!
in this case the whole song were just 6 stems, so i could use channel 7-8 for the fx returns.
if the song would have more stems i would have probably used the spare inputs, but the disadvantage is that u cant control the gains.. on a bigger mixer it wouldnt be a problem at all.
the idea is to have the fx return on a fader, so u can adjust the volume and eq in your mix.
but as i always reply to the comments and questions: Dub is always fun and it's everything about trying out.
have a nice day!
@@SteppersDivision appreciate the response! It makes sense. I’m now on the market for an analog mixer!
Hi great channel!! I would to star dub mixing but I have a question. How do you record each part of the track for each channel? If I have a recorded analog drum kit for example, how can I divide it into channels!? Thanks
Really you have to record each part of the drum kit on seperate channels. If you only have a recording or sample of the whole kit being played, you can copy it into three or four channels in your DAW and then use the EQ to cut the frequencies you don't want on each one.
exactly
Thanks for the video. Do you know what are the ways to find reggae multitracks? Peace
heyhey, thanks for the comment. There are several places online where you can download stems, just google 'dub stems download', i think you will find something👍
Where to get all the audio files ? Nice video by the way ✨
Question: those sirens and classic dub sound effects (like the one at @0:01) are those just from all the effect pedals being used on the sounds youre mixing? or are those added/made by using a synth? thanks !
Hey there, thanks for the question.
It was a sample from Splice i used.
Usually the sires are made by so called 'Dub Sirens', these are little devices just for that
Thanks for the answer
@@solnova7928 our pleasure
Hello, can you please tell me how you record that dub as a sound to this video?
hey there, thanks for the comment.
we recorded the output from the analog mixer in logic. Simply connect the mixer L-R outputs and interface inputs 1-2..
you can find a detailed dub mixing tutorial on our channel, where we explain the secrets of the analog setup. It's called "Learn Dub Mixing in 5 Minutes", maybe you can find some interesting information over there.
bless
Thanks for this, great Dub ! Real good bass sound !
I'm wondering about the fact you didn't use any reamp box for the send out of your soundcard to the mixer. No trouble with this ?
Hey there, thanks for the comment and for your question. Yes true, we been not using a reamp box... Obviously the pedals are not getting the necessery signal in order to operate to the fullest, but it was working very good for this demonstration.
@@SteppersDivision
Thanks for the answer. This question of reamp is a big problem for me because I want to get out of the Box, but if I need 6 Reamp Bax, 160 euros per unit, for 6 different chanel it will be Very expensive ! Do you know any cheaper solution ?
@@yonel557 The trouble comes when combining different types of cables, it should either be all TRS or all unbalanced (2 pole or 3 pole jack)
For cables this short I would use all unbalanced.
The secret, and vital part missing from this video, is gain staging = adjusting the output from the DAW to a suitable level for the desk. When you find a good level and gain settings, your noise and signal integrity won't be a problem. It's the effects pedals that can be more problematic because they expect very low, instrument level signal (not line level coming from pro audio equipment) so you will generally have low aux masters to not overdrive the pedals by too much.
When the signal flowing through is at full level into the pedals, and you give it some more, you're just pumping the noise floor up to meet it!
@@PillarsOfDub Thank you for those informations !
I just ordered the x2222usb. I hope it can do this without an additional interface
Hey there, thanks for the comment!
Unfortunately we dont got experiences with hybrid mixers, i hope it worked out?
would be very curious, would love to hear how it went!
Without the Focusrite or similar, you'll only be able to send the Master channel of your DAW to the hardware mixer. But you could do all of the above in a DAW with something like the Novation Launch Control XL for hands-on fun
hello, I have a question does logic pro cut the tracks as soon as you pass a sound on the software?? thank you in advance !
Hey there, thanks for the comment.
You mean the stems? In this case each instrument was separate. Logic usually doesn't cut. The are some opportunities online to download Dub Stems, Check out Roots Makers
@@SteppersDivision thank you for your answer, I meant on logic pro, how to import music already made, bob marley or other? are the tracks detailed? Thanks in advance
Are you bringing the faders always as close as possible to unity? I can imagine in the heat of the moment, in a live setting say, you may just push them as far as they'll go, rather than try to get them bang on unity each time... would this have any complications?
with analog gear it won't clip in the same way as digital, I imagine you can slam the faders all the way if you wanted to, it'd drive the preamps more which could be a nice sound depending on the board. ultimately experiment and see what sounds good, start with just drums or another single track and try to find a sweet spot. then try the other tracks. it could be different for each!
@@scrummyvision exactly, explained very well!
@@SteppersDivision thanks!
My question may be very simple, but i don't know anything about dub mix, but why you connect the six output to the mixer ? Can you explain me ? I want to start mixing dub with vinyl turntable , but i don't want to register myself , so i need a interface or no ? Thanks for you answer. and sorry for my english 😁
hey there, thanks for the comment!
-your question is actually explained in detail in another video we made,
its called 'Learn Dub Mixing in 5 minutes'
-u can find it on our channel
@@SteppersDivision Thanks😁
What is the FX chain for aux 1 and 2 please?
hey there, thanks for the comment.
Aux 1: envelope filter ->delay ->reverb
Aux 2: multi effect ->phaser
Hi, great video!
What type of mixer and interface should i get? (I have no experience bty)
Hey there, thanks for the question, very appreciate!
there are several ways to do it with even a small analog mixer,
the idea is that you got enough outputs from your interface to run more channels.
There is also another option, some mixers got build in interfaces
best regards from Berlin
Hi, how can it be done with a mixer with a build in interface? (Like a behringer x1222).
tbh, im not really sure,, but there were several people commenting on the videos saying that it should be possible.. but i literally never had one of these hybrid mixers in my hands
Is there a smaller interface that could handle this set up for a beginner getting into DUB?
hey there, thanks for the question.
you can dub with just a small 2output interface actually. or at least check out some techniques on the L-R out and record back.
experimenting is always good👍
Hello. I have a Behringer XenXy802. Can I use this?
hey there, thanks for the comment..
yes, why not? its gonna be a small setup, but i think its gonna be fun anyway
What is the cheapest mixer that will do the job building on a budget can anyone pls let I know thank you
hey there, thanks for the comment!
difficult to say actually, because there are toooooo many products out there😅
we actually started dubbing with messing around on a mapped midi controller.. u can basically use a software before buying any equipment, prepare the projects first and so on
Question: Where does the track you mix come from? Laptop?
hey there, thanks for the question!
yes, its played from the computer...
- btw, we got some more videos on our channel explaining the dub setup in more detail, maybe u will find some useful information
the gear makes sense... but how do you switch stems so fast on Logic to not play the same song for too long? 🤔
heyhey, thanks for the comment.
yea, thats the thing.
my solution for live playing was one logic project with several songs next to each other..
sometimes touching, sometimes crossfading instruments when the bpm match. you can get crative there
try to imagine it as one big song, or one big set...
for the transitions i used either samples, or some dub sirens, or other toys,
this is just one option to do it, im pretty sure there are some solutions to make a hybrid setup, or let it feel more like a dj cosole kinda workflow.
maybe combined with a looper?
or maybe somebody from the community knows more?
what do you guys think?
@@SteppersDivision logic now has a live loop features broken into cells similar to Ableton live that I've been curious about but have never given a shot
greeting
I do not understand ... the music is imported? can we bring direct effects on the tracks we want?
hey there, thanks for the comment!
yes, basically it works that way.
if u are interested, we got a tutorial on our youtube channel called 'Learn Dub in 5 Minutes', there are all the basic mechanics in detail explained
greetings from Berlin
@@SteppersDivision thank you very much Master 🙏🏼
Is there a mixer for around 200 pounds and can anny of you good people piont me the rite way pls
What's the first song playing? Love it
Hey there, thanks for the comment. It was a song from 'Roots Makers', i just made a dub mix from on of their Dub Packs
How do you get the independent tracks of each instrument?
Is there any way to separate the instruments with good quality?
hey there, thanks for the question.
you actually need stems of the instruments.
you can either record on your own, or download some stem packs online
but for trying out you can run a full song thru aux and have fun as well :D
btw, you can find some more detailed dub tutorials on our channel
bless up
..just realized, there are some programs out there which can separate stems, but i dont got enough informations about. i think its based on eq-ing out each frequencies..
I am making my first ever dub recording. I am only doing it for fun, so I used an android app called Moises. It only separates vocal, bass and 2 other channels , however. Then I used a virtual DJ app called Disc DJ to apply the very basic effects. Then I looped the drum intro from the track.
Then I used an app called VoxBox to put it all together. It's the nearest thing to Soundforge and Acid PC programs that I've seen on Android.
But it actually sounds awesome. Notice I put "dub" not dub reggae. That's because the original track I'm using is by Blink 182.
BTW my inspiration was "Wilmot" by Sabres Of Paradise.
My only real exposure to dub is from some Manasseh tapes from 90s
@@themanfromvolantis manasa.. I used to listen deeply every sat night after race. 92.
I think I’m missing the concept of the core of what this is,so you just remix existing tracks? Or do you create them new by running different tracks in?
Hey there thanks for the comment. Yea, DUB Mixes are a reggae thing. It's basically a remix of a song with stems and effects.. There are big names in the Dub game like Pablo Baldini, or Mad Professor, those guys are fire.
btw there are some more dub tutorials on our channel, you can check out some derails there
best regards from berlin
@@SteppersDivisionthanks for thé reply,how do you get stems for all of these songs?
do you have any links to some free multitracks?
heyhey,
unfortunately not, but there are some providers online.. Roots Makers for example are selling dub stems online
Ahhh! It's so complicated to me!
heyhey, thanks for the comment,
do you maybe got some questions?
would you recommend this mixer?
hey there, thanks for the question
-its a old behringer mixer which was laying around. would rather go for something newer in your case
Do you deal with any latency with this set up?
hey there, thanks for the comment.
there are no latency issues, because i monitor straight from the mixer.
i guess there is a latency while recording back to the daw, but its not relevant while performing. at least not for me
@@SteppersDivision 👍 sweet, that makes sense now that i think about it.
Dub it!
Didn’t do the effects send into a channel and send the echo back into the echo for that true dub sound
What song it this
Hey there, its a song from the Roots Makers called Make Them Feel It,
they are selling Dub Stems, so i just made a Dub Remix
Man you're not explaining anything after you plugged all the stuff : (
Hey there, thanks for the comment. Yea, this is just a super quick video, not explaining too much. But we got several Dub Tutorial Videos on our channel, where we explain in detail the theory, daw settings, how to plug everything and stuff.. Search for for a video called 'Learn Dub Mixing in 5 minutes' and let us know what u think 👍
Thanks! : )
@@SteppersDivision
This is not how to make DUB music, this is a video of a guy tweaking fader channels, with no explanation of how to setup feedback loops, AUX out to channel IN's, instead of AUX returns, etc..
This is how to make Dub, easy Version!
You didn't even explain the connections properly. I know how to do this, but many people will not understand that it's all about having individual tracks on separate channels, use the aux sends to go to the effects and then return to an empty channel. The daw/interface is completely irrelevant unless that's all you have.
hey there, thanks for the comment. yes, we were not explaining it in this video, there are another videos on our channel explaining the topic in more detail... this video is just a quick one