The downfall of the GD'S was in 95 when they indicated & locked up all the leadership gov's ,regents , & other positions of authority GD'S lost all structure frm that day on it's been all downhill & complete mayhem for the GD'S since then & another thing is the destruction of the project buildings that spreaded out GD'S all through the city this the reason of so many lose & renegade gangs these days ..sad to say Larry would have 0 effect on these kids today if he was released..as a matter of fact I would be scared for his life ..NO STRUCTURE, NO GUIDANCE..CHICAGO IS DOOMED!!
White society keeps them in poverty by denying young black men jobs . JOBS,especially decent paying jobs are VERY scarce for young black men in Chicago . That’s the real root to the dysfunction in the community. The average white household has thirteen times the wealth of the average black household. White people intentionally set it up this way .The U.S government also has a hand in all of these drugs being in the black community. Keep us unemployed/underemployed,flood the hood with dope,alcohol and guns , watch the inevitable dysfunction and instead of paying reparations for slavery and oppression or actually helping to fix the problem , you lock em up.
Absolutely and then cut they contact with Larry which made it lawless cause I don't give a fuck what position you had within the ranks...if king Larry summoned you up to Statesville you got no choice but to come and if he got any idea you in the street doing some flute shit most likely you wasn't gonna make it out that prison that day cause he held sway over all the COs too
Man i member my cellie was GD also, he was from Englewood, i was from over east. Bar none GDN. I was BGDN, to 974, to transforming to just GD 720 BOS. it was public knowledge so im not discriminating myself or my 74's. My cellie I'll just his name was tink. He couldnt read or write. I had to teach him to read n write, cuz he needed to know policy n procedures. He learned to read off me getting him to learn 3 pieces, cuz that joint school system wasnt helping him leaen Adult Basic Education....when i got thru wit him he was good, and being a big boy i helped keep him from being a "send off". Me myself i was 18 finished english 101, and studying Sociology. Basic dynamics of human personality. Non verbal communication. On GDN.
Free Larry Hoover praying Trump find it in his heart to let him out. He will forever be the greatest to ever come from Mississippi and created something great.
Yes sir King Geno Colon free that man too..most of the GD brothers who didn't fold in the 1995 "Operation Headache" GD 39 along with Larry in the bogish practices use to convict them. Then used the IDOC held the hostile takeover by orange crush in 1997. And now there's no programs for rehabilitative outcomes for incarcerated in IDOC and the terrible food service which mainly consist of mostly soy bean & turkey products servings for the incarcerated.
@@Blackloveblackpower hate to say it, but now that they switched to Kamala I doubt Trump gets in🤦🏿♂️. Locking bm up is how she got her start. Free us all 💯
Being GD and growing up in the 90s, the first set i remember going renegade was Killaward. They were the first i remember going to war with another GD set, being G Ville. Drug money, greed, and being taxed had a lot to do with it
Your description of walking up and down Morse was spot on . Some people would think it was sweet getting off at that Morse train stop in those late 80's and 90's and some of them 2000's like oh its coo this up north, Nope you will get pressed around there ( no different than out west and out south). Harassment of women and getting pressed in most hoods was/is normal activities (which dont make it right) but its pretty common then and still goes on now. Great content brother keep up the good werk #NorthpoleAlumni
You must of not been on Morse recently so often I get off the train & walk up & down that area it's not what it used to be from what your explaining it's sweet there now
I was across the pond from Vienna in Shawnee, totally forgot Hoover had been there at one point. When I was in Shawnee, Vienna was known to be one of the sweetest joints in the state, with how lax everything is there I could only imagine how sewed up someone like Hoover would have had it. In Shawnee, one of Angelo's (4ch) right hand guys basically ran the whole joint, and thats a medium-max disciplinary prison(22/2), dude was out his cell whenever he wanted, drinking real booze, got the best trees, real world clothes, all that in a disciplinary joint, so I could only imagine what someone with juice like Hoover would have been getting up to in a minimum security prison, back when the prisons were still open.
I was shipped to Vienna from Illinois River..... Minimum security ..... They would come count us out at the lake when fishing... They Helicoptered L.H. out of there 3 days after I got there...
If you really think about it, if they didn't lock up all the chiefs, the city wouldn't be as messed up as it is today. The whole reason the people in the street conduct themselves the way they do today is because they lack any type of leadership or hierarchy that would hold them accountable. Sure you could say that "well the gds were going renegade before they locked up hoover" but what about all the other gangs? You made a point that finballs used to conduct themselves in a more respectful manner, thats a direct result of leadership, once all that leadership and hierarchy went away, the streets turned chaotic. Sure Hoover might have been losing control, but you still had some type of leadership in those renegade clicks, after they got locked up it all went to shit. I know you always wanna preach the narrative of how the streets are always bad, and gangs never did nothing for anyone, but if you really look at it thats only true past the 90s, look what gang banging did for Richard J Daley, and the Irish as a whole. Once the government realized that gangs were the tool marginalized people could use to generate social mobility and institute change, thats when they started cracking down on gangs, and thats when gangbanging turned into what it is today. Hoover was no different than the majority of these politicians, except Hoover was black, and we both know the government doesn't want the black community having any type of power that would institute change in America.
the fastest social mobility tho has been achieved by Asians; they vaulted to the top-earning race in America in 1 generation and they did by blowing everyone else away in the classroom and picking the best fields
Fanball vice Lords black p Stones Latin Kings those guys are still organized and carry themselves with respect so I don't know what you talking about uknow MCs all those gangs under people Nation organized
Yeh that's a fucked up gang it's in there literature if they have life in jail and are 21 they can have sex with another man some time they guys. And that's on solid , 4ch let a brother do that shit he's a dead man
Y'all do know that thang was nostalgic. 7-4 brothers meeting up from all over in a unified front!! Especially in 1993 when we marched from 35th to city hall. We marched for better healthcare and there was a school strike in 1993. No one had their hats cocked, no wore their symbolic jewelry, we got to 27th the Dearborns but the MC'S ain't won't no problems. Infact they were cheering us on. 10,000 7-4's. U was proud to be a brother and sister of the struggle. Proud to be about a change of Growth & Development. The ones who wasn't right was just eradicated! No violations just cast out. That's how the pocket Pocket Town became New Breed. Bcuz on member I ain't gone say his name was eradicated so he took a few off his guys from off 71st n east end with him to the pocket and the became BGN. At that time guys 18 n older used to be on that night life . Going to Steppers clubs, that's how we met Snoop Dogg cuz he celebrated his birthday at the East Of The Ryan on 079th n Drexel, but err night we was at different clubs, The Godfathers, End of the rainbow, 68th n Halsted, the glass house on 079th Halsted, Mr. Rickie's on 55th, sweet Georgia browns on Stony island. We all wore perms wasn't no braids cuz braids a pull ya hair out with a perm. Some had Jerry curls, like Magellan from Jeffrey Manor, it was another pimp GD he rolled in a conversion van with like 5baddies and they was proud to be on his hip. We also battled BDS back then due to Minister Marvel, minister Chris, Minister Lucky. Infact they used to pay GDS to flip, just like FBG Duck said in one of his songs. Life was fun and in the jails to life wasn't that bad.... GDS had 8gallery in all the max sec joints Menard Stateville, Pontiac n Joliet. The organizations put the new guys in the cells no the C.O.'s. shyt got boring we use to make up activities spade tournaments, weight, vocal, yard, activities. And May 24th D-Day we use to eat and invite other organizations bcuz we had a lot of food. If you ain't got a GED or highschool diploma to azz getting in school. I got 2 GED cuz I didn't want no one telling me to go to school. Guys who graduated got a carton of Newports for being successful. But the powers that be had to fckn that up. They was like j Edgar hoover he hated to see blk n brown brothers coming together, so he infiltrated them. Like Malcolm x, martin Luther king, black Panthers and other pro black organizations. And actually the Vice Lords was on that in the late 60"s n 70's they were unified too. Jeff fort n the BPSN was on that too. Brother Jeff being invited to the whyte house!!!!. Like Larry said by the year 2015 it's gonna be like in Warsaw Ghetto,and the Mayor is scared of me....on the Resurrection album j prince n geto boys.
@@andrepierce3687 4real my brother, I was 25 myself. It was definitely historic. You was proud to be B.O.S. and Growth & Development. We had the Amptheatre guaranteed to have at least 15,000 people in it. The Geto Boys was there. The Regal Theater on 079th Stony island, it was NWA, Eazy E, Too Short concert. Arthur was the Regent for over east. 071st n east end, n 075th Dorchester. And sum people had disrespected our picture taking..... Just flat out disrespected us. Folks say don't fck wit nobody but then 5 guys.....when it was over , it was like the "Warriors Movie" we only wanted them. It was like 350 7-4 on them 5guys. We fckd them up but we didn't over-beat em for disrespect. But they did get touched up . The 90"s was the shyt. U didn't have to be over tuff just be yourself folks .
Just because a couple of decks got problems. They try to make it seem like the whole thing is against each other. I'll never put that k behind the D for any of the organizations. You'd rather just bring it to the table than do all that. All is 1...1 love!!!
Man u can't be serious in the 90"s GDS vs BDS was up!!! Don Derkey, minister Chris, minister Marvel, minister Lucky, minister Scan, was really pushing the BDN at us, even to the point of paying GD members to flip BDS. When we wore perms and errbody got there hair done in Ms Toni"s basement 76th & Champlain..she had to separate days for BDS n GDS. Cuz it was too much bloodshed. Especially Minister Marvel always into it wit them guys at Chic Rick's/Mr Rickie's, 68th Halsted club, the godfather club on 87th Stony, end of the rainbow lounge 079 south shore, 50 yard line club, we was always had words in them clubs.....,
So posing the question would the city be better without the organization. The bigger question is would the city be better off with city corruption? Would federal guidelines that set massive incarceration of BLK men to prison for cocaine smuggled in by officials be in a better position? For one to step up and regulate the chaos imposed, is enough for freedom.
The organization of Chicago was the answer to the corruption and violence that we found when we first came to Chicago from downsouth. Is it a problem now? You best believe it ,but not in the beginning.
Great Content, keep pushing it out!!!. When you ask, would Chicago have less murders without GD's are you talking same history without GD's .....or no gangs period? Obviously without gangs Chicago would have less murders but with gangs just without GD's i think its impossible to say but assuming we have the same history just minus GD's my best guess is no. When you look at how they developed many pieces came together, some by force, some by bandwagon, and some by politics/economics etc. Imagine these pieces never come together what does that look like....Is it like now, is it like LA when its literally Block to Block for some of the smaller sets, or does another person who is not Hoover unite the pieces. Maybe he uses only force and intimidation to unite the pieces and has no time with Politics. Speaking politics we no that is why Chicago mayors office went so hard....they will let us kill ourselves and take out donations but when we give our illicit money to political opponent's they throw us under the jail.
How sick is it to force a people to a place , enslave them , sabotage every revolution they attempt, keep them in perpetual poverty ,assassinate and imprison their leaders , and create a totally dysfunctional people . Then when you no longer see a need for them fantasize about how much better things would be if they simply didn’t exist . He really doesn’t want blacks to exist period , the GDs are just a faction of black people from the roughest backgrounds ,he knows it’s not politically correct to say this about blacks so he just pinpoints a specific group of blacks.
@@jereltompkins3740 I member when them chumps in LA executed Tookie Williams. LA gave up on him, the President gave up on him. Rehabilitation was being made,, but the people didn't care. I hope they let Larry our b4 it's too late. They let Board members out, Gov's out, Regents out. Even people who did real sinister shyt. Cuz Larry got a idoc C number n ain't too many left w c. Numbers.
@@taneaapochicagoyou are a racist ass white man, let’s talk about the institutionalized discrimination in the labor market and how young black men are locked out of the job market.White felons get more callbacks from employers than equally qualified black men and if you put certain addresses on your application that reduces the likelihood of getting an interview .You racist white men act like we are natural criminals when y’all colonized the whole globe ,stealing land,resources and everything else along the way . We didn’t ask to come here you devils forced us here to enslave ! Talking about would Chicago be better without GDN name a place you whites landed that you didn’t invade ,conquer and set up a racist statehood so would the world be better without your people?
I remember front page of the sun times in 95 when they got the GDz 97 when they got lord geno and the kings they put gino on a gourney and covered him up so the kings wouldn't send it up
It would be good and bad for him to be released finally. I think the bad part will be someone will try to make a name for themselves by making attempts on his life. the good part is he will finally have his long awaited freedom and be with his family finally. 💯
If you have love and support for the old man you will stop with the foulness and remember the law of love and what happens when we don't practice it if you really want to help you need to write your States Representative and the senators of your State and the State of Illinois asking for him to be released or paroled under the first step act Bill signed into law by president trump Dec 27, 2018 peace and love
He did get close to being release w / backing of alderman,clergy, in 1993. And under the old he was eligible for parole every 2yrs. There was 1 alderman that was against him and he became convicted sexual predator for having sex with a minor.....
There was no 70% tax. That was the government misrepresenting facts. As a shorty just starting to campaign, moms on welfare with 3 or 4 mouths to feed, or worse, moms on dope and grandma trying to keep the kids fed and a roof over their head, you don't have any money to start your own drug operation. None is required, because as a standing member you can go to your coordinator and tell him you want to work, and he will give you a pack to sell. At first it's usuall just $100 worth at a time until you get to moving it fast enough and they feel you can be trusted to handle larger amounts. This is what was called 'Nation work', because it was distributed by the POAs. Nation work was issued on a 70/30 split. $70 off of every $100 was turned in. Not 70% of the profits, 70% of the gross revenue, in business terms. The net profit for Coordinators was somewhere closer to 25 or 30%, depending on how much was sold in weight and how much was sold in bags. In the 90s it wasn't hard to move enough between school letting out and 10pm to make $150 for yourself, and without any of the responsibilities that comes with running any business - procurement, packaging, security, collecting all the money that's owed, counting it up, keeping the numbers straight, etc. That 30% meant that a young man could make sure him and his younger brothers and sisters could go to sleep everynight with a full stomach, go to school with decent clothes, and take some of the load off of moms or granny. The government had no interest in 'dismantling' the Organization until they realized that GD was more that just street thugs killing each other and selling drugs. The knew that if the old man could get mobilize and unify the black vote in Chicago, the Democratic 'machine' that has dominated city politics was no in danger of being voted out of existence. The old predicted it himself years before it happened when he said, "When we finally go public with what we have been teaching in secret, they are going to lock me up and throw away the key, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice for our children who have yet to be born." 21st Century V.O.T.E made headlines in 1993, the year of the Peace Treaty. Joe Biden drafted and sponsored, and Bill Clinton signed into law, the 1994 Crime Bill that enacted the mandatory minimum sentencing laws that made punishment for distribution of a cumulative amount of 50 grams of crack a mandatory life sentence if you were a principal in a "drug organinzation", unless you were a first time felon. Coincidence? Not at all, because Larry Hoover and the GDz were mentioned explicitly as they went about promoting and garnering support for a bill that was the catalyst for the private prison industry and the mass incarceration of 3 generations of black and brown men. And for the record, GDz that walk in the Vision of Growth and Development always have and always will Love, Honor, and Respect Larry Hoover. You can't claim to be a GD if you don't. Gangster Disciples is dead, was dead long before Larry publicly denounced it. The government and their agent provocateurs, most of whom are completely unaware of their being pawns in the game, are the only ones working to keep it alive. Growth and Development is alive and well, constantly and continuously striving in our struggle so that the injustices suffered by Larry Hoover were not suffered in vain,
LBH may have said that. But that's how Chicago street fellas talk . I saw nothing wrong with what the man said.... But now what, he stepped down n ngaz wanna spread the negative syndrome. No body said shyt when Shorty freeman stepped down.... Ngaz confuse shyt, n it was a time n era no one mentioned his name including the guy who made this doc.... And its halfazzed anyway
Free that man. Stop bringing up and posting irrelevant shit, trying to fuck up that man's name. It's people out here in power that has done and still doing things that should be locked the fuck up. That's the one who will stop all this chaos out here. Free That Man.
Its two type of things in Chicago Illinois inner city that's SECRETIVE. And that's The KILLERS and Homosexual's. If you know a person doesn't Look Like he Lost his Testosterone he Look all Man BUILT but is Secretive THAT MEANS HE IS ONE OF THE KILLERS who shape's the way Chicago Illinois MOVE. That's why you Got, Disciples and Black Disciples, The Disciples The ones who did The Killing that reshaped Chicago Illinois. The Disciples are still around but it's always only a FEW OF THEM, But it's alot of King Shorty Freeman Black Disciples. Shorty Freeman was Heterosexual and a Disciple But King of Black Disciple., 2 different but the same Group. That's where mental health program Professionals FAILED AT! They are afraid of what they don't know that they Don't know. And In the Disciples Don Dirky Acklin is a DON of the Disciples, who crowned shorty freeman and Larry Hoover a King for there own Groups it had nothing to do with Disciples. Shorty Freeman took that Opportunity but King LARRY HOOVER never did and that's the problem people chasing the government that's why they Kids getting killed.
No such thing as GD or BGD, those dudes who said they was GD and BGD were used to get F*cked in the Ass. Don Dirky Acklin said out his mouth THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BGDN.
Research be too fast , on what wver i said yesterday. I wasnt ready for, i like the person to be the person. And around my area, all gang bangers isnt really there, all the time, telling me if i should spy on this gut to not. Though spreaded love, for the topic and the fact.
You can't compare so called GDs of today that YOU lived by Up North to the GDs of yesterday, who had structure and codes of conduct, and would frown upon today's GDs. Bad take, especially when you bring in the Finball, who were the first to go renegade and lose structure before GDs. 😂😂😂
all yall so called GD historians go write a book and get 💰 instead of some of yall reading or listening 2 videos like this guy pretending 2 know what's poppn westside born loomis courts aka da village never heard of white gd's thingz done changed evidently 👑✡️🔱
Unfortunately it is true,there was and is white gds and whoever saying white people weren't allowed to be gds has no clue and don't know what the hell they talking about period..Iykyk.
@@user-qk1qz3zz3h I been to Stateville 8 gallery, Menard 2wice, Shawnee Robinson Sheridan B4 it was a diff time there. Been to Joliet by mistake, cuz they were trying to fill Joliet up that's when Boonie blk was there in tomb. I was in Menard 95-97, 8gallery. Their was Whyte boy GDS, from rural towns n places like Springfield, decatur, Peoria, Ohio , more proof look at the videos of downtown what's was the guys, wearing blu n blk, six stars six point stance sort of like Malcolm x going to mecca discovering non blk Muslims. I was in Menard at that time there wasn't no one from from my hood there. D Day May 24th 1996, we just came off lockdown. I had a 🦴 on, I wrote a 3page letter about how far we come, a force to be reckoned with. They say step in da circle they like y'all won't believe who wrote this piece. Folks say that dam 🦴 off folks neck.... You do got sum righteous 74 that are really walkn street books in Chicago. I was born to be on the front line, not made to be. I'm in max sec at 17-18,and we'll versed. I use to help folks get out that jam. In jam n court cases. No fugazzy bout me east side crazy. Bar none the 1st one. I'm the 1 who started putting the 0 in front of ya block, I was the 1st to name murder Town 075th, then I started hanging on 066-067th wit sharp son, rip to Gsharp Senior
@@Burnthealphabetpeople just remember yall christians god name is just god , real gods have names, i don’t understand how yall believe in that shit and yall god name is just God , the shit yall believe in is fake
I think you is wack for most of your history videos. You going off Google and no real research put into those videos like this 1 here....I'm a Chicago historian and been one since those early ages.
you didnt even back up your comment with facts or suggestions...makes me think you just a hater. What's wrong with the video and shouldve been included in this video?
The recorded audio was a violation of Larry Bernard Hoovers rights. Everyone back in those days and times remember this clearly. Iykyk but a lot of these new age people and people doing documentary's on Larry and or the podcasters don't include these facts because they don't know. It's is a violation to do to Larry or any human being who was locked up in those days and times to listen in on someone's conversation and or put a listening device,tape recorder on people to listen in when inmates have family and friends to come visit them in prison. They weren't supposed to get away with the fact that the audio was illegal in those days because a inmate has the right of privacy when in prison and visiting with family and friends. The only reason the state of Illinois won this case is because back in those days it.was super racist and the judge, the prosecutors, federal agents were all crooked, corrupt and worked as a team to illegally convict Larry even though it was a violation of his right.
The 90"s also violated our 4th amendment rights with the stop and frisk laws, the age 17 being a adult in cook county as well as other violations in our urban communities. And the tape recordings was bogish but still allowed ...
I’m miss folks nation : GD,SGD,MLD,SD,IG,IGD…. The list goes on & on …. We had shit on lock 🔒… this goofy shit , click vs click … people 6 poppin mixing with people 5 poppin ….
The downfall of the GD'S was in 95 when they indicated & locked up all the leadership gov's ,regents , & other positions of authority GD'S lost all structure frm that day on it's been all downhill & complete mayhem for the GD'S since then & another thing is the destruction of the project buildings that spreaded out GD'S all through the city this the reason of so many lose & renegade gangs these days ..sad to say Larry would have 0 effect on these kids today if he was released..as a matter of fact I would be scared for his life ..NO STRUCTURE, NO GUIDANCE..CHICAGO IS DOOMED!!
Biden Clinton crime bill
I agree with you. My wife and I left Chicago in 2013 because the crime was crazy after the projects were torn down. Now the crime is out of control.
White society keeps them in poverty by denying young black men jobs . JOBS,especially decent paying jobs are VERY scarce for young black men in Chicago . That’s the real root to the dysfunction in the community. The average white household has thirteen times the wealth of the average black household. White people intentionally set it up this way .The U.S government also has a hand in all of these drugs being in the black community. Keep us unemployed/underemployed,flood the hood with dope,alcohol and guns , watch the inevitable dysfunction and instead of paying reparations for slavery and oppression or actually helping to fix the problem , you lock em up.
Absolutely and then cut they contact with Larry which made it lawless cause I don't give a fuck what position you had within the ranks...if king Larry summoned you up to Statesville you got no choice but to come and if he got any idea you in the street doing some flute shit most likely you wasn't gonna make it out that prison that day cause he held sway over all the COs too
Brother, forgive me if I'm wrong. Then I'm wrong, but didn't the brothers get indicted in 94?
You can’t have structure without being strict
Yep
Man i member my cellie was GD also, he was from Englewood, i was from over east. Bar none GDN. I was BGDN, to 974, to transforming to just GD 720 BOS. it was public knowledge so im not discriminating myself or my 74's. My cellie I'll just his name was tink. He couldnt read or write. I had to teach him to read n write, cuz he needed to know policy n procedures. He learned to read off me getting him to learn 3 pieces, cuz that joint school system wasnt helping him leaen Adult Basic Education....when i got thru wit him he was good, and being a big boy i helped keep him from being a "send off". Me myself i was 18 finished english 101, and studying Sociology. Basic dynamics of human personality. Non verbal communication. On GDN.
You did good bro
Glad I was brought up under 720 Growth & Development B🔯S
Free Larry Hoover praying Trump find it in his heart to let him out. He will forever be the greatest to ever come from Mississippi and created something great.
So this is where the power of the vote come in. You won't get my vote unless you free chief.
Yes sir free Larry Bernard Hoover, Jeff fort, minister rico
@@charlesbrown3795 All of our ghetto and political prisoners.
Yes sir King Geno Colon free that man too..most of the GD brothers who didn't fold in the 1995 "Operation Headache" GD 39 along with Larry in the bogish practices use to convict them. Then used the IDOC held the hostile takeover by orange crush in 1997. And now there's no programs for rehabilitative outcomes for incarcerated in IDOC and the terrible food service which mainly consist of mostly soy bean & turkey products servings for the incarcerated.
@@Blackloveblackpower hate to say it, but now that they switched to Kamala I doubt Trump gets in🤦🏿♂️. Locking bm up is how she got her start. Free us all 💯
Being GD and growing up in the 90s, the first set i remember going renegade was Killaward. They were the first i remember going to war with another GD set, being G Ville. Drug money, greed, and being taxed had a lot to do with it
yep thats what i was told by the ppl there too
What about outlaws
The one I remember was Cabrini Green. The guy running the whites didn't want to pay for them high ass taxes after doing all the work.
Where were you frim
@@brodro7267 630 Evergreen, white walls. Then I move to 911 Sedgwick red walls
Is this a White guy making videos bout GDs 🤔
Me 2 since I was 13 now 47 shit not the same
Free Chief Larry Hoover to the land. Free all political prisoners to the land.
Im from Chicago iv been a GD since i was 13 now im 48 with much respect and love and i servived everything in the 90s and 2000's #gdforeva
What you call "finball nation" is not an Enemy of GD or Mr Hoover.. We've always had much love and respect for them
💙🖤 ✡️ Free our Chairman.
Crazy outhere
Your description of walking up and down Morse was spot on . Some people would think it was sweet getting off at that Morse train stop in those late 80's and 90's and some of them 2000's like oh its coo this up north, Nope you will get pressed around there ( no different than out west and out south). Harassment of women and getting pressed in most hoods was/is normal activities (which dont make it right) but its pretty common then and still goes on now. Great content brother keep up the good werk #NorthpoleAlumni
Lmao Morse is the name of a hood in my city my hood to 〽️
You must of not been on Morse recently so often I get off the train & walk up & down that area it's not what it used to be from what your explaining it's sweet there now
Lol
Fuck Morse street
Free The Old Man...
Why
@truthtalkshunter7173 The Response Of A Typical Heathen Revelation 13:10 KJV
@@truthtalkshunter7173 Psalm 2:8 KJV
I was across the pond from Vienna in Shawnee, totally forgot Hoover had been there at one point. When I was in Shawnee, Vienna was known to be one of the sweetest joints in the state, with how lax everything is there I could only imagine how sewed up someone like Hoover would have had it. In Shawnee, one of Angelo's (4ch) right hand guys basically ran the whole joint, and thats a medium-max disciplinary prison(22/2), dude was out his cell whenever he wanted, drinking real booze, got the best trees, real world clothes, all that in a disciplinary joint, so I could only imagine what someone with juice like Hoover would have been getting up to in a minimum security prison, back when the prisons were still open.
I was shipped to Vienna from Illinois River..... Minimum security ..... They would come count us out at the lake when fishing... They Helicoptered L.H. out of there 3 days after I got there...
One of the guys who cooperated against him John Baugh I was incarcerated with him and I put hands and feet on him, and I’m Black Stone.
Hi everybody my name is Steve and reading is fundamental
GANGSTER DISCIPLES ARE THE MOST HATED 🔱🫡
We the most hated and loved at the same time. 😤💯
The GDs was strict asl they had the worst violations I grew up in the late 80s thru the 90s
You a real one😂💯
Were they more strict than the bpsn and vice lords 🤔 Were they more organized than stones and vice lords too ?
@@icepick976 definitely more strict not as organized tho
@@icepick976Strict Yeah But The Brothers Was Definitely More Organized
Them violations kept order. MFer get a violation and you don't see them for a while until that pumpkin head go down.
GD members are like Oakland raiders fans, they beat the rival team up and they beat each others ass too 😂
Real talk bro on GD✡️🔱🤣🤣🤣
ONLY IF U DONT LISTEN AND GOT B.S. IN THE GAME, EVERBODY NEEDS DISCIPLINE, SOCIETY IS GONNA DO U WAY WORSE✔️👍
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@@hostileterritorysw Deluxe
More like Crips
51 years he been locked up let that man go home
Sounds like illegal wiretaps to me
Free king Larry Hoover
If you really think about it, if they didn't lock up all the chiefs, the city wouldn't be as messed up as it is today. The whole reason the people in the street conduct themselves the way they do today is because they lack any type of leadership or hierarchy that would hold them accountable. Sure you could say that "well the gds were going renegade before they locked up hoover" but what about all the other gangs? You made a point that finballs used to conduct themselves in a more respectful manner, thats a direct result of leadership, once all that leadership and hierarchy went away, the streets turned chaotic. Sure Hoover might have been losing control, but you still had some type of leadership in those renegade clicks, after they got locked up it all went to shit. I know you always wanna preach the narrative of how the streets are always bad, and gangs never did nothing for anyone, but if you really look at it thats only true past the 90s, look what gang banging did for Richard J Daley, and the Irish as a whole. Once the government realized that gangs were the tool marginalized people could use to generate social mobility and institute change, thats when they started cracking down on gangs, and thats when gangbanging turned into what it is today. Hoover was no different than the majority of these politicians, except Hoover was black, and we both know the government doesn't want the black community having any type of power that would institute change in America.
the fastest social mobility tho has been achieved by Asians; they vaulted to the top-earning race in America in 1 generation and they did by blowing everyone else away in the classroom and picking the best fields
Fanball vice Lords black p Stones Latin Kings those guys are still organized and carry themselves with respect so I don't know what you talking about uknow MCs all those gangs under people Nation organized
@@taneaapochicagoyou ain’t lying bro they definitely pass everyone up. They be mad at my children cuz they in the same classrooms as them.
GDs would've fell off even if Larry was never locked up. He would've got back doored. No cap.
Yeh that's a fucked up gang it's in there literature if they have life in jail and are 21 they can have sex with another man some time they guys. And that's on solid , 4ch let a brother do that shit he's a dead man
Y'all do know that thang was nostalgic. 7-4 brothers meeting up from all over in a unified front!! Especially in 1993 when we marched from 35th to city hall. We marched for better healthcare and there was a school strike in 1993. No one had their hats cocked, no wore their symbolic jewelry, we got to 27th the Dearborns but the MC'S ain't won't no problems. Infact they were cheering us on. 10,000 7-4's. U was proud to be a brother and sister of the struggle. Proud to be about a change of Growth & Development. The ones who wasn't right was just eradicated! No violations just cast out. That's how the pocket Pocket Town became New Breed. Bcuz on member I ain't gone say his name was eradicated so he took a few off his guys from off 71st n east end with him to the pocket and the became BGN. At that time guys 18 n older used to be on that night life . Going to Steppers clubs, that's how we met Snoop Dogg cuz he celebrated his birthday at the East Of The Ryan on 079th n Drexel, but err night we was at different clubs, The Godfathers, End of the rainbow, 68th n Halsted, the glass house on 079th Halsted, Mr. Rickie's on 55th, sweet Georgia browns on Stony island. We all wore perms wasn't no braids cuz braids a pull ya hair out with a perm. Some had Jerry curls, like Magellan from Jeffrey Manor, it was another pimp GD he rolled in a conversion van with like 5baddies and they was proud to be on his hip. We also battled BDS back then due to Minister Marvel, minister Chris, Minister Lucky. Infact they used to pay GDS to flip, just like FBG Duck said in one of his songs. Life was fun and in the jails to life wasn't that bad.... GDS had 8gallery in all the max sec joints Menard Stateville, Pontiac n Joliet. The organizations put the new guys in the cells no the C.O.'s. shyt got boring we use to make up activities spade tournaments, weight, vocal, yard, activities. And May 24th D-Day we use to eat and invite other organizations bcuz we had a lot of food. If you ain't got a GED or highschool diploma to azz getting in school. I got 2 GED cuz I didn't want no one telling me to go to school. Guys who graduated got a carton of Newports for being successful. But the powers that be had to fckn that up. They was like j Edgar hoover he hated to see blk n brown brothers coming together, so he infiltrated them. Like Malcolm x, martin Luther king, black Panthers and other pro black organizations. And actually the Vice Lords was on that in the late 60"s n 70's they were unified too. Jeff fort n the BPSN was on that too. Brother Jeff being invited to the whyte house!!!!. Like Larry said by the year 2015 it's gonna be like in Warsaw Ghetto,and the Mayor is scared of me....on the Resurrection album j prince n geto boys.
Wow I was in that march. Me and my G. Was in 8th grade
@@andrepierce3687 4real my brother, I was 25 myself. It was definitely historic. You was proud to be B.O.S. and Growth & Development. We had the Amptheatre guaranteed to have at least 15,000 people in it. The Geto Boys was there. The Regal Theater on 079th Stony island, it was NWA, Eazy E, Too Short concert. Arthur was the Regent for over east. 071st n east end, n 075th Dorchester. And sum people had disrespected our picture taking..... Just flat out disrespected us. Folks say don't fck wit nobody but then 5 guys.....when it was over , it was like the "Warriors Movie" we only wanted them. It was like 350 7-4 on them 5guys. We fckd them up but we didn't over-beat em for disrespect. But they did get touched up . The 90"s was the shyt. U didn't have to be over tuff just be yourself folks .
Guess he didnt learn from john gotti 😂😂😂😂😂
So he was just greedy😂😂😂😂
Ain't No BDK none of that we're all 1 folk 1-2 To the body 🔱✡️🔱
Just because a couple of decks got problems. They try to make it seem like the whole thing is against each other. I'll never put that k behind the D for any of the organizations. You'd rather just bring it to the table than do all that. All is 1...1 love!!!
Y'all unorganized af
Yo momma unorganized af @@WizardsPath-if5oq
Man u can't be serious in the 90"s GDS vs BDS was up!!! Don Derkey, minister Chris, minister Marvel, minister Lucky, minister Scan, was really pushing the BDN at us, even to the point of paying GD members to flip BDS. When we wore perms and errbody got there hair done in Ms Toni"s basement 76th & Champlain..she had to separate days for BDS n GDS. Cuz it was too much bloodshed. Especially Minister Marvel always into it wit them guys at Chic Rick's/Mr Rickie's, 68th Halsted club, the godfather club on 87th Stony, end of the rainbow lounge 079 south shore, 50 yard line club, we was always had words in them clubs.....,
@@WizardsPath-if5oq Not in the South homie
So posing the question would the city be better without the organization. The bigger question is would the city be better off with city corruption? Would federal guidelines that set massive incarceration of BLK men to prison for cocaine smuggled in by officials be in a better position? For one to step up and regulate the chaos imposed, is enough for freedom.
The organization of Chicago was the answer to the corruption and violence that we found when we first came to Chicago from downsouth. Is it a problem now? You best believe it ,but not in the beginning.
Great Content, keep pushing it out!!!. When you ask, would Chicago have less murders without GD's are you talking same history without GD's .....or no gangs period? Obviously without gangs Chicago would have less murders but with gangs just without GD's i think its impossible to say but assuming we have the same history just minus GD's my best guess is no. When you look at how they developed many pieces came together, some by force, some by bandwagon, and some by politics/economics etc. Imagine these pieces never come together what does that look like....Is it like now, is it like LA when its literally Block to Block for some of the smaller sets, or does another person who is not Hoover unite the pieces. Maybe he uses only force and intimidation to unite the pieces and has no time with Politics. Speaking politics we no that is why Chicago mayors office went so hard....they will let us kill ourselves and take out donations but when we give our illicit money to political opponent's they throw us under the jail.
How sick is it to force a people to a place , enslave them , sabotage every revolution they attempt, keep them in perpetual poverty ,assassinate and imprison their leaders , and create a totally dysfunctional people . Then when you no longer see a need for them fantasize about how much better things would be if they simply didn’t exist . He really doesn’t want blacks to exist period , the GDs are just a faction of black people from the roughest backgrounds ,he knows it’s not politically correct to say this about blacks so he just pinpoints a specific group of blacks.
To real 4 T.V.
@@jereltompkins3740 I member when them chumps in LA executed Tookie Williams. LA gave up on him, the President gave up on him. Rehabilitation was being made,, but the people didn't care. I hope they let Larry our b4 it's too late. They let Board members out, Gov's out, Regents out. Even people who did real sinister shyt. Cuz Larry got a idoc C number n ain't too many left w c. Numbers.
Bro trust me THOSE Gds you were around are definitely not the only ones who carried themselves like that
Larry Hoover had everyone fooled.
So this is who rick ross refers to on song bmf larry hoover lol 😂😂😂😂
This is where the power of the vote comes in Trump or any other candidate will never get my vote unless they free chief.
come on CWN keep the shit in order my guy you be all over the place 😂😂
i change subjects like i change dentures baby 💯👍
@@taneaapochicago either way i love your work and wish would post more keep of the good work CWN
@@taneaapochicagoyou are a racist ass white man, let’s talk about the institutionalized discrimination in the labor market and how young black men are locked out of the job market.White felons get more callbacks from employers than equally qualified black men and if you put certain addresses on your application that reduces the likelihood of getting an interview .You racist white men act like we are natural criminals when y’all colonized the whole globe ,stealing land,resources and everything else along the way . We didn’t ask to come here you devils forced us here to enslave ! Talking about would Chicago be better without GDN name a place you whites landed that you didn’t invade ,conquer and set up a racist statehood so would the world be better without your people?
I remember front page of the sun times in 95 when they got the GDz 97 when they got lord geno and the kings they put gino on a gourney and covered him up so the kings wouldn't send it up
@@Diabloz1800 I was in Menard in 1997 when they took Geno.....
@@Diabloz1800 Prince Fernie was down there too.
Me too😢
@@charlesbrown3795did you meet him bro?
Thanks for the videos 👍👍👍
It would be good and bad for him to be released finally. I think the bad part will be someone will try to make a name for themselves by making attempts on his life. the good part is he will finally have his long awaited freedom and be with his family finally. 💯
The only thing that will save Chicago is the next generation that will be better. This one is crashed out
You are wrong!. Hexwas serving an indeterminate sentence that was paroleable .
You got yo story mixed up’d
It’s lil more to it, the comment under mine is a good way too sum it up
Be honest, you was buying your Meth off the Westside
Lol str8 crack meth head
only thing i ever did was xanz tho
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If you have love and support for the old man you will stop with the foulness and remember the law of love and what happens when we don't practice it if you really want to help you need to write your States Representative and the senators of your State and the State of Illinois asking for him to be released or paroled under the first step act Bill signed into law by president trump Dec 27, 2018 peace and love
He was never “fixing” to get out, he was convicted and sentenced to life for murder in 1973 plus 200 years.
He did get close to being release w / backing of alderman,clergy, in 1993. And under the old he was eligible for parole every 2yrs. There was 1 alderman that was against him and he became convicted sexual predator for having sex with a minor.....
His own HIGH!! supreme gangsters got him booked again...too thirsty and got him booked
HE WAS CHARGING 70% TAX, HE WOULD STILL HAVE POWER IF HE DIDN'T GET GREEDY THE GDs WOULD LIKE HIM STILL
Allegedly
i’m not even gang but even i know …. never mind #freelarryhoover
None of us like slang in nation work. But when you Pee wee and Shorty You gotta do what you gotta do.
There was no 70% tax. That was the government misrepresenting facts. As a shorty just starting to campaign, moms on welfare with 3 or 4 mouths to feed, or worse, moms on dope and grandma trying to keep the kids fed and a roof over their head, you don't have any money to start your own drug operation. None is required, because as a standing member you can go to your coordinator and tell him you want to work, and he will give you a pack to sell. At first it's usuall just $100 worth at a time until you get to moving it fast enough and they feel you can be trusted to handle larger amounts.
This is what was called 'Nation work', because it was distributed by the POAs. Nation work was issued on a 70/30 split. $70 off of every $100 was turned in. Not 70% of the profits, 70% of the gross revenue, in business terms. The net profit for Coordinators was somewhere closer to 25 or 30%, depending on how much was sold in weight and how much was sold in bags.
In the 90s it wasn't hard to move enough between school letting out and 10pm to make $150 for yourself, and without any of the responsibilities that comes with running any business - procurement, packaging, security, collecting all the money that's owed, counting it up, keeping the numbers straight, etc. That 30% meant that a young man could make sure him and his younger brothers and sisters could go to sleep everynight with a full stomach, go to school with decent clothes, and take some of the load off of moms or granny.
The government had no interest in 'dismantling' the Organization until they realized that GD was more that just street thugs killing each other and selling drugs. The knew that if the old man could get mobilize and unify the black vote in Chicago, the Democratic 'machine' that has dominated city politics was no in danger of being voted out of existence. The old predicted it himself years before it happened when he said, "When we finally go public with what we have been teaching in secret, they are going to lock me up and throw away the key, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice for our children who have yet to be born."
21st Century V.O.T.E made headlines in 1993, the year of the Peace Treaty. Joe Biden drafted and sponsored, and Bill Clinton signed into law, the 1994 Crime Bill that enacted the mandatory minimum sentencing laws that made punishment for distribution of a cumulative amount of 50 grams of crack a mandatory life sentence if you were a principal in a "drug organinzation", unless you were a first time felon. Coincidence? Not at all, because Larry Hoover and the GDz were mentioned explicitly as they went about promoting and garnering support for a bill that was the catalyst for the private prison industry and the mass incarceration of 3 generations of black and brown men.
And for the record, GDz that walk in the Vision of Growth and Development always have and always will Love, Honor, and Respect Larry Hoover. You can't claim to be a GD if you don't. Gangster Disciples is dead, was dead long before Larry publicly denounced it. The government and their agent provocateurs, most of whom are completely unaware of their being pawns in the game, are the only ones working to keep it alive. Growth and Development is alive and well, constantly and continuously striving in our struggle so that the injustices suffered by Larry Hoover were not suffered in vain,
@@cadillacblack6488chuuch
LBH may have said that. But that's how Chicago street fellas talk . I saw nothing wrong with what the man said.... But now what, he stepped down n ngaz wanna spread the negative syndrome. No body said shyt when Shorty freeman stepped down.... Ngaz confuse shyt, n it was a time n era no one mentioned his name including the guy who made this doc.... And its halfazzed anyway
Free him.
I am here to all my g's in people of the world my name is Clarence Spencer aka meat meat good morning 🌞🌄
i was doing time with hoover during this situation.in vienna
Illegal bugs.
You are incorrect late 90s early 2000s GD was in disarray, Hoover was taken in 95
No we weren't in disarray in the late 90s. The Chairman got locked up in 73. FYI
1995 when the feds took 39 GDS and Larry . Called "operation headache" allegedly to give President a headache....
It shouldn't been disarray that's what Mayor Daley wanted. But GDS knew how to self govern ourself on GDN
Free that man. Stop bringing up and posting irrelevant shit, trying to fuck up that man's name. It's people out here in power that has done and still doing things that should be locked the fuck up. That's the one who will stop all this chaos out here. Free That Man.
Ebk ⭐ on stone ⭐ ✨✨....
Nah We Going On You Slick 😂😂 All Is Well Doe
Free Larry Hoover
Free Him
Chicago news u just be talking bro…& who da fuck u getting ur info from cuz it’s 🧢
Good job
Its two type of things in Chicago Illinois inner city that's SECRETIVE. And that's The KILLERS and Homosexual's. If you know a person doesn't Look Like he Lost his Testosterone he Look all Man BUILT but is Secretive THAT MEANS HE IS ONE OF THE KILLERS who shape's the way Chicago Illinois MOVE. That's why you Got, Disciples and Black Disciples, The Disciples The ones who did The Killing that reshaped Chicago Illinois. The Disciples are still around but it's always only a FEW OF THEM, But it's alot of King Shorty Freeman Black Disciples. Shorty Freeman was Heterosexual and a Disciple But King of Black Disciple., 2 different but the same Group. That's where mental health program Professionals FAILED AT! They are afraid of what they don't know that they Don't know. And In the Disciples Don Dirky Acklin is a DON of the Disciples, who crowned shorty freeman and Larry Hoover a King for there own Groups it had nothing to do with Disciples. Shorty Freeman took that Opportunity but King LARRY HOOVER never did and that's the problem people chasing the government that's why they Kids getting killed.
Don Dirk
Vlad TV
No such thing as GD or BGD, those dudes who said they was GD and BGD were used to get F*cked in the Ass. Don Dirky Acklin said out his mouth THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BGDN.
Nigga U always rambling , take yo meds
Research be too fast , on what wver i said yesterday. I wasnt ready for, i like the person to be the person. And around my area, all gang bangers isnt really there, all the time, telling me if i should spy on this gut to not. Though spreaded love, for the topic and the fact.
If you can do a story on the finball’s that will be great.
We don’t need racist white men speaking on black organizations,they will always have that supremacist slant !
You be getting on here saying some false shit...
@@otdgreat4176 ignorant outburst is what he doing.
Rico Clark’s grandfather
You can't compare so called GDs of today that YOU lived by Up North to the GDs of yesterday, who had structure and codes of conduct, and would frown upon today's GDs. Bad take, especially when you bring in the Finball, who were the first to go renegade and lose structure before GDs. 😂😂😂
Dude doesn't know what he is talking about at all
keep up the good work Windy city report
This white devil isn’t doing good work he is doing J.Edgar Hoover cointelpro work .
Dont be talking down on the nation like that now Chicago News I can't honor that the rest of the folks and people had they downfalls too
Your lack of dictation is an embarrassment to Chicago.
all yall so called GD historians go write a book and get 💰 instead of some of yall reading or listening 2 videos like this guy pretending 2 know what's poppn westside born loomis courts aka da village never heard of white gd's thingz done changed evidently 👑✡️🔱
Unfortunately it is true,there was and is white gds and whoever saying white people weren't allowed to be gds has no clue and don't know what the hell they talking about period..Iykyk.
Sound like h8 cuz I know quit a few Whyte 74, Latino 74.
@charlesbrown3795 hispanic no doubt but never whyt just from different backgroundz kinfolk neva h8in just a visual 👑✡️🔱
@@user-qk1qz3zz3h I been to Stateville 8 gallery, Menard 2wice, Shawnee Robinson Sheridan B4 it was a diff time there. Been to Joliet by mistake, cuz they were trying to fill Joliet up that's when Boonie blk was there in tomb. I was in Menard 95-97, 8gallery. Their was Whyte boy GDS, from rural towns n places like Springfield, decatur, Peoria, Ohio , more proof look at the videos of downtown what's was the guys, wearing blu n blk, six stars six point stance sort of like Malcolm x going to mecca discovering non blk Muslims. I was in Menard at that time there wasn't no one from from my hood there. D Day May 24th 1996, we just came off lockdown. I had a 🦴 on, I wrote a 3page letter about how far we come, a force to be reckoned with. They say step in da circle they like y'all won't believe who wrote this piece. Folks say that dam 🦴 off folks neck.... You do got sum righteous 74 that are really walkn street books in Chicago. I was born to be on the front line, not made to be. I'm in max sec at 17-18,and we'll versed. I use to help folks get out that jam. In jam n court cases. No fugazzy bout me east side crazy. Bar none the 1st one. I'm the 1 who started putting the 0 in front of ya block, I was the 1st to name murder Town 075th, then I started hanging on 066-067th wit sharp son, rip to Gsharp Senior
J Prince
Free cheif supreme country 🎩 tvl jyd
Not a Wizard
Pookie grandpa
Descendant of evil colonizers
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He a black Freemason that why he in prison you have to take a blood oath and do rituals to be a leader
😂😂😂😂😂 you mean be rich that’s all it takes
@@Burnthealphabetpeople Naw his creed is based off the Book of the dead fool , if you been to Ethiopia before you know what im talking about
@@Burnthealphabetpeople just remember yall christians god name is just god , real gods have names, i don’t understand how yall believe in that shit and yall god name is just God , the shit yall believe in is fake
@@Burnthealphabetpeopleno Larry is definitely a mason I think he is a prince hall
@@criscarter5537send the link to the book
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I think you is wack for most of your history videos. You going off Google and no real research put into those videos like this 1 here....I'm a Chicago historian and been one since those early ages.
No u not
you didnt even back up your comment with facts or suggestions...makes me think you just a hater. What's wrong with the video and shouldve been included in this video?
The recorded audio was a violation of Larry Bernard Hoovers rights. Everyone back in those days and times remember this clearly. Iykyk but a lot of these new age people and people doing documentary's on Larry and or the podcasters don't include these facts because they don't know. It's is a violation to do to Larry or any human being who was locked up in those days and times to listen in on someone's conversation and or put a listening device,tape recorder on people to listen in when inmates have family and friends to come visit them in prison. They weren't supposed to get away with the fact that the audio was illegal in those days because a inmate has the right of privacy when in prison and visiting with family and friends. The only reason the state of Illinois won this case is because back in those days it.was super racist and the judge, the prosecutors, federal agents were all crooked, corrupt and worked as a team to illegally convict Larry even though it was a violation of his right.
The 90"s also violated our 4th amendment rights with the stop and frisk laws, the age 17 being a adult in cook county as well as other violations in our urban communities. And the tape recordings was bogish but still allowed ...
Morse
@YoungEighty
I used to live at 1528 W. Morse
A long time ago back in 1984.
I loved Alberto's Pizza and Pratt Beach.
🙏 ✌️❤
@@JacquelineLewis-qj6cu greenleaf & Sheridan
I’m miss folks nation : GD,SGD,MLD,SD,IG,IGD…. The list goes on & on
…. We had shit on lock 🔒… this goofy shit , click vs click … people 6 poppin mixing with people 5 poppin ….
PBG not famous now that shit only mean something in that area