Keep in mind, Hulk isn't always strongest there is, so while taking on Hulk might seem like a powerful feat(and it is) it can vary depending on the situation.
Yeah as The Incredible Hulk was from back in the 70's to early 80's, cartoon and tv series version that could be a mountain breaker but not continent or world breaker level as he has become.
@@Ris_Grestar Goku lived there during his training in his teens (yes teens even though he looked like a small child) but hasn't in years. He and his wife Chichi and their kids live inland. Other characters live at Kame House besides Roshi though, primarily Turtle, who is a giant turtle and occasionally Roshi's steed. Sort of.
Spidey and Cap working together have managed to knock out Hulk once. Hulk's strength depends highly on his anger level. And even if he was at his planet level phase when he fought Namor, Aquaman still has an answer to that by scaling to Wonder Woman and breaking Green Lantern constructs with his fish Also, I'm sad that Rock is absolutely screwed in the next one due to one of his opponents being X
That's true; Hulk is only planet-breaking when he's absolutely pissed off (DB even brought up that Worldbreaker is the specific result of Bruce Banner completely giving in to his rage). Against comparatively minor nuisances like Spider-Man or Cap, Hulk is probably only wildly frustrated or somewhere around that level, whereas he was totally and almost irrevocably livid when he faced Sentry. Namor matching Savage Hulk in a one-on-on is still incredibly impressive; lifting a 150 billion ton mountain is MUCH higher than anything most of the other heroes and villains brought by the Beyonder could do. Still, not up there with Worldbreaker's planet-wiping strength (the fact he stalemated Sentry proves that by itself). I've heard many people saying that scaling characters to Hulk is generally an unwise decision given his varied strength level, and I can see why. Meanwhile, characters Aquaman scales to are generally more consistent with their higher feats, like Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. I must admit I don't know much about the Megamen other than they have power-up lists that rival Mario's and one of them got stuck on the Moon thanks to a hiatus and X is apparently designed in-universe to be better than Rock. Might there be some areas in which the OG Megaman overtakes his descendents?
They specified that Namor fought Savage Hulk, who is NOT strong enough to break planets. Plus Wonder Woman's strength is arguably just as high as the strongest the Hulk has shown.
@@adamhogan5442 my boi that hulk is a later point in hulk's life. This is before he became planet busting. The hulk use in this research was the time hulk strength was capable of holding Manhattan and no more.
There is no such thing as full power hulk, because his powers are "potentially limitless" his strength depends on his mood. This is expressed in the famous quote "the angrier he gets the stronger he gets".
Great video and to help clesr some things up: Hulk can be a planet buster but only at his angriest form: World Breaker. Namor matched regular Hulk so he can't really scale to Hulk's top strength. Talking about the telepathy they were more talking about their control over sea life. Aquaman's feats suggest stronger control over the sea life than Namor's. The seizure thing was just to have a cool ending (although aren't seizure's physical things? So mental defense wouldn't really work.. I think?)
Actually Grey Hulk, one of the weakest versions of Hulk, could destroy an asteroid many times the size of Earth and normal hulk was able to support the weight a star.
@@tenshi7784 It could very well be the case that those were exaggerations as neither Grey Hulk nor Savage nor even Green Scar has shown that level of power ever since.
@@tenshi7784 If Namor were a planet buster he wouldn't struggle with lifting that island. The logical conclusion is that Thor and Silver Surfer weren't taking him seriously.
I didn’t mind the reason they fought. I just thought it was a sort of dumb, fun little story that leads to a ridiculously out of control battle to the death. I’ve never personally minded the stories being that way.
Yeah, it's definitely not a concern to everyone. I just appreciate when thought is put into it. Gives the whole thing higher stakes, makes it generally more memorable, etc.
I thought it was a matter of respect; Remember, these are NOT two ordinary people who just happen to bump each other's shoulder walking down the street like in Yang vs Tifa or Jotaro vs Kenshiro, these are powerful kings who inherited command of the oceans. Disrespecting regular royalty in real life is already a HUGE no-no, so imagine doing something to offend a sea king who can summon storms and titanic sea monsters. You can tell in their dialogue how prideful and mindful they are regarding their status: Namor outright calls Aquaman a "peasant" for splashing him - probably unaware he was talking to a fellow Atlantean king - and Aquaman felt the need to point out that fact out before launching his first attack which Namor clearly didn't hold in regard. It isn't so much that Namor got pissed because Aquaman splashed him, he got pissed because someone he viewed as a regular person had the nerve to disrespect someone of his status by treating him like an equal (which Aquaman literally was, but again, he didn't know that until after the fight started), and Aquaman fought back to essentially tell Namor "No, I'm not a normal guy who answers to you, I'm a king, you arrogant prick". Basically, it was Aquaman disregarding Namor's status that set him off, and it was Namor trying to prove his kingship over Aquaman's that truly set the fight in motion. Let me make this clear; *I know absolutely nothing about the character of these two in the comics* so I don't know if this is really how they act, especially in a situation like this. I never read the comics they starred in or the TV shows in which they appeared in. This one animated battle is all I've seen of how they are, act and fight, so I could just as easily be completely wrong and sound like an idiot to someone who *has* read the comics or even seen the cartoons. This is just my interpretation of why the fight started, and it sure as hell didn't affect the quality of it.
Captain Murica and Bats both beat the Hulk,so did Tony in the Hulk-buster.Point is Namor,Cap,Bats and Tony,non of them got punched by a planet/continent busting attack in the their round with the Hulk and it wasn't a Death Battle.Characters don't usually go all out and that was the case with their fights.When a pissed off Hulk went for Blackbolt,Tony,Strange,MR fantastic and Prof X he was far more powerful than any time he battled Namor,yet he didn't destroy a planet or a continent and when he was dangerously close to such power,he was stopped with an attack that didn't endanger even the city they battled in or the on-lookers let alone a planet.While Aquaman keeping pace with Wonder Woman dose not need special circumstances to be a legitimate feat as her speed and power isn't dependent on rage.
I didn’t notice Kame house in the background the first time. That’s cool. Makes me think of how Roshi and Jiraiya were fighting on that shore a while earlier. . .
Hey dean, couple things for you. 1: you should really check out the Death Battle cast, especially ones that follow an episode of DB. They address several questions that you might or in fact DO have about the fight. 2: yes, that was Kame House, owned by Master Roshi. This bit was made because the animator has had 3 beach-side animations in the past 6 months, Mario Sonic, Roshi Jiraiya, and this. So he decided to have a little easter egg fun in this one. 3: the "cartoon one" is Megaman Battle Network, and was a game for Game Boy Advanced before an animated series.
For some reason, when I saw your notification, I thought you were wearing an 18th century naval officers tricorne hat. Would have been fitting for this occasion.
FYI they mentioned in the bloopers that they decided that this season Wix's lines are different and there is not going to be a "Fight" to start the match.
Aquaman gave a Martian a seizure. Martians in the DCU are generally the premiere telepaths, but apparently had an ancient marine ancestor which allowed Aquaman to exploit in their brain. He has controlled humans and I think Superman (pre-Crisis) at some point as well. Namor resisted mind control which is different from inducing seizures or whatever he did to Namor. Wonder Woman is no slouch either. I'm not sure how Savage Hulk compares, but they may be roughly equivalent feats in terms of durability/strength needed to keep pace.
The Mega Man Battle Royale involves the Classic Mega Man, Mega Man X, Mega Man Volnutt from Mega Man Legends, Mega Man.EXE from Mega Man Battle Network, and Geo Stelar from Star Force Mega Man
The reason why the island lifting feat was compared to the continent breaker feat is that those are both a single instance of measurable forces. Using the fight against the Hulk isn't comparable because measuring the forces in that feat aren't feasible and fundamentally inconsistent. After all, the logic "Namor fought the Hulk so he should be stronger than Aquaman" is using the same logic as "the Joker fought Superman so the Joker should be stronger than Aquaman." How much strength is used in an individual fight for such characters isn't constant and is unmeasurable without some specific detail to work off of (like how the specific attack Atlan used was capable of sinking a continent). And as other people have mentioned, Hulk does have different tiers of power. He doesn't always his full power output or... well every time he fights he would cause mass devastation or death. The same way how Superman doesn't always use his full power against opponents, which is why people clearly not as strong as Supes can fight him and occasionally win (or at least not die horribly).
So in the cast they awarded some of the questions you had. While Namore resisted purple guy to the effect that he didn't obey him he was still affected and that while he would definitely resist and overcome Aquaman mind control the battle to do so would give Aquaman the chance he needed to get kill blow in. Also Aquaman can supercharge marine life to the point of defeating Green lantern constructs. Really looking forward to the next one covering all 5 main mega man versions and good tie in to your new channel. Been loving the mega man playthroughs
Idea for a new pokemon challenge. Beat pokemon Crystal with a party of only Catterpies. Cheat to get 6 Catterpies, do no other cheating, use other pokenon only for HMs, defeat Red Struggle can hit ghosts. So Morty and Silver's ghost pokemon can be bested by your 6 bugs.
I do agree with the result though I agree the story was pretty dumb. That set up might have been fine for more goofy characters but not the rulers of Atlantis. Seems like a lot of folks have gone for the Hulk thing so I'll leave that alone and go for the telepathy thing. Aquaman probably couldn't actually control Namor but he didn't try to. Rather he caused a seizure. It's kinda like the difference between talking someone into doing something and just screaming really loudly in their ear to give them a headache. And there is canon support for him being able to do this; during a crossover event (I forget which one) Namor and his half-sister Namorita (imaginative naming in that family) were getting overwhelmed by undersea enemies so Aquaman came to their rescue by doing the seizure thing as an AOE. It knocked all of the enemies and Namorita out. Namor was able to remain conscious, due to being only half aquatic in his ancestry, but like in this battle he was paralyzed with pain until Aquaman let up. This gives DC a two point lead in their fights with Marvel. And a four battle winning streak, which I think is a Death Battle record.
Namor never fought the Hulk when the Green Giant was mad enough that his strength was at World breaking levels... that's where your mistake was at. The Telepathy Potency means that Aquaman can "negate" Namor's ability to call for fish help while still getting help himself... while also maybe distracting him in a way that Namor cannot mirror-match back at him.
Funny, I’m the first comment ^^ Anyway, I’m glad you are still enthusiastic about reacting to videos despite your indifference to them. The video was cute and charming as every other video you’ve made. Keep it up Dean! Stay Strong and Safe Goliath
Btw they said this in there podcast but there taking out the announcer to say fight as it more of a restriction to them and they said it would look weird on one of the fight
Just so you know, Namor could match Hulk's feat of lifting 150 billion tons but NOT World Breaker Hulk's feat pulling two tectonic plates together. That's a whole different ball game.
@@BJGvideos Considering they've dealt with planetary threats and can literally sink islands with their power, I seriously doubt minor chemicals that don't even affect normal humans that much is gonna be enough to put them off a trip to the pool. They can probably just hold their breath like any other person, and like Namor was doing they wouln't necessarily have to be swimming (at least not the whole time). Just a thought, would it really have made a difference if the lifeguard was on duty when Aquaman made that cannonball?
maybe its a salt-water pool? I want to see if I can get all the Mega Men showed: Rock, original game series, X, Battle Network, and I think the last one might be SSB, unless there is another sub-franchise Im not aware of
Small heads to really anyone. But as of this season, they've actually decided to not include the "FIGHT" anymore to allow for more creative freedom in the writing.
Namor isn't as lame as they make him seem here. He's actually quite a competent, if not savage character. They just really didn't show off the best sides of his character for this battle.
They really low-balled Aquaman and Namor, but Aquaman has fought people on Superman's level many times (Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman) so he also has planetary level feats like Namor fighting Hulk and Thor.
Scaling Aqua and Namor is a bit iffy, since they don't really have the equivalent feats like moving or breaking planets. Of course, fighting wonder woman and hulk are still impressive feats.
13:07 “Can’t Hulk basically punch the planet apart?” Yes, when he’s at his limit. This is why I really don’t like Power Scaling for this kind of theoretical debate. It assumes that a character’s ‘Power Level’ (ugh) is a static statistic as opposed to constantly being in flux due to any manner of outside circumstances. Yes, Namor can trade blows with Hulk on a _general_ basis. But if Hulk was to be, say, really cheezed off that day, Namor would have a harder time keeping pace. It’s the same reason why Deadshot can tag Flash even though Flash is fast enough to break the sound, light, and even _time_ barrier. That doesn’t mean he’s going that fast _all_ the time. That’s Flash at the limit of his power, when adrenaline is riding high and he’s pushing himself beyond what he’s normally capable of. It’s not something he can just _do._ Just like how Hulk just can’t go ‘Hmph, puny planet.’, punch the ground, and blow up the earth.
The cartoon Mega Man actually isn't included in the Battle Royale, those are all Mega Man variations from games. Interesting things to note: Classic Mega Man got a big buff from Mega Man 11 with the Speed Gear and Power Gear. With the Speed Gear he can slow down time around him, and with the Power Gear he can power up his Mega Buster shots and Robot Master copy abilities, similar to how X could charge them. Further modifying these abilities are parts you can buy, namely the Speed Gear Booster (normally Speed Gear slows down Mega Man himself as well, but with this Mega Man and his attacks move at normal speed), the Cooling System Infinite (allows Mega Man to infinitely use the Speed or Power Gear when normally using them too much would cause them to overheat), and the Awakener Chip, which gives Mega Man's Robot Master copy abilities infinite ammo. I initially thought Mega Man Volnutt (the third Mega Man in the lineup, he's from Mega Man Legends) would be the first to die, as unlike the other Mega Man iterations his abilities are relatively tame, but after a bit of research I found what could POTENTIALLY be an ace in the hole for him. Legends takes place after the X series, and in the game you can actually find X's X Buster. According to the wiki, this is the last incarnation of the X Buster, which I interpret as "X's X Buster as highly as it can be upgraded". Roll Caskett can upgrade the X Buster, turning it into the Shining Laser, Volnutt's strongest weapon in the game, which can be upgraded to have infinite ammunition. If this weapon truly is stronger than X's Buster, he actually has potential to win, despite being weaker than the other Mega Man incarnations in every other category. That said, I think Star Force Mega Man (the last in the line up) will win. While I've heard people say X is the strongest Mega Man, Star Force Mega Man has an attack called "Black End Galaxy". This attack summons a Black Hole to trap his enemies, and then he uses an energy blade to cut through it. Then it *_explodes._* Assuming whatever gets hit by this attack survives, they're then inflicted with a "gravity" effect, which prevents them from moving where they stand (though they can still attack), allowing SF Mega to follow up with more attacks. Personally my favorite Mega Man is Volnutt, but I'm putting my money on Star Force.
@@Ris_Grestar Based on what you mentioned in Megaman VS Astroboy, the "cartoon" Megaman you mentioned IS Megaman.EXE. The cartoon/anime you're thinking about is Megaman NT Warrior, which is based on the Megaman Battle Network games. The 2018 cartoon, Megaman Fully Charged, is not related to any established series, and is almost completely ignored by the fanbase. Side note, Megaman.EXE actually has a high chance of winning this. He has some pretty ridiculous feats that Death Battle can pull from, especially in the manga. So, assuming he's the one you're rooting for, you should be in for a fun ride.
@@Ris_Grestar I think the new cartoon on CN is it's own universe. I'm not 100% sure on that though, I was kinda hoping it'd be a sort of "Sonic Boom" situation where it'd actually be really good, but I gave up a few minutes into an episode, lol. But yeah, there's so many different versions of Mega Man, you can't really be faulted for mixing some of them up. Truth be told there's a few more that aren't appearing in this battle!
@@Ris_Grestar Are you rooting for any specific one ahead of time, just going off of what you've played or "I think this one looks coolest", or is that something you'll hold off on until you see the analysis?
I never noticed that. did they actually mentioned it at one point (during the past DBs and DB previews) that Wiz has 6 fingers on his non-robotic hand or grew a 6th one?
Purple Man's telepathy is actually not all that strong in MARVEL. Theres better telepaths who have kicked his ass. Aquamans telepathy is specifically tailored to dominate and control all evolved forms of Marine Life.
Namor has matched the weakest version of Hulk. Not all hulk can break planets. Aquaman has also held his own against Superman. The main fact was that, DC decided aquaman to be one of their icons, thus Aquaman joined Justice League and went on to take part in many groundbreaking adventures, where is marvel's Namor is pretty much a side character. Aquaman got good development in both powers and character over the years, giving him more feats, and making him OP gradually, but Namor, after his classic days, hasn't got much development at all.
I think it's because Aquaman's a generally more likeable character. Namor has a bias to humans (understandable considering the first he met were literal Nazis) and seems to have a stick up his ass while Aquaman seems more chill, humble and amicable. They kind of already have a human-hating arrogant mutant in the form of Magneto, who is already incredibly famous and well-known, so for Marvel to do that again with Namor could seem unoriginal and a cash grab.
Namor fighting the hulk doesn’t make him able to beat the hulk or even be equal in power. Hulk throughout his history hasn’t always been as strong. Aquaman himself has kept up with Wonder Woman and Superman, not strong enough to beat them but able to stand his own. Lastly Aquaman’s telepathy is being explored even more in comics now so for him to be able to immobilize namor has enough for the fish to eat him makes sense. Also who cares about the story it’s the fight that matters.
Actually Hulk can break the universe with one punch but that was after they fought he also accidently Destroyed New York with a little tap with he's foot to the ground Hulk can devinetly defeat superman
the only victory Namor has is being actually the original and first designed.. that and with all this info seems like a very interesting character to read about, why there aren more comics about Namor?, eh Marvel?
From what I've seen, perhaps Namor has a habit of seeming like a racist prick? The first humans he encountered were Nazis - some of the most hateful and arrogant people ever - and if his reaction to Aquaman blowing off his accusation is any sign, he also happens to have a stick up his ass. The fact that his personality and hero-villain alignment seems to flip-flop is also likely a red flag compared to more consistent characters like Iron Man, Carnage and Ultron who have also been on Death Battle.
aqua man once punched superman into space so yes he's that strong and namor fought savage hulk not world breaker hulk world breaker is leagues stronger than savage
I'd say if you can catch them on Netflix or something, but...I wouldn't want to pay for them. (I haven't seen Justice League or Aquaman. BvS was too long and the good scenes were really just Batman, and the rest of the movie was meh, and Wonder Woman had its charming moments if you like "fish out of water" sequences but many things were dumb. [This is me trying to be spoiler-free.])
I'd recommend to watch all of them but be prepared to be annoyed/disappointed by BvS (I recommend the Ultimate Edition) and Justice League. They have their good moments but are terrible in their execution on others. And while they are not the best movies, Wonder Woman and Aquaman are really quite entertaining and enjoyable movies
Please react to MLP with the last season coming out. I remember watching your early Death Battle videos and seeing you liked My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.
Namor fought the Hulk ok. Aquaman fought being far more powerful than World Breaker Hulk. So no Namor didn't have any advantage or chance of winning. I have said this countless times when it is MCU vs DCU. DCU will win 99.9 percent of the time cause DC characters are soooo OP where Marvel is vastly weaker
Are you high? Namor and Aquaman have the same abilities. Plus Namor is stronger and more durable than Aquaman. Namor fought thanos, hulk, sentry, and Hercules sooooooo yes he did have a chance of winning. You are obviously a dc fanboy I see.
@@legoking6165 That was probably a legal thing, actors tend to have contracts that limit when they can play a character. For Haberkorn to voice Natsu in the DB he would have had to go uncredited (like JYB had to do when he played Ichigo in DB).
This episode is by far the worst one I've seen. I agree with the result, knowing the characters, and in fact think the actual match up is FAR more one-sided than they made it out to be... but their reasoning is just bad. I mean they treat Aquaman going toe to toe with Wonderwoman as a speed feat, and not what it obviously should be, a strength feat. A feat much more comparable to the Hulk thing than blocking Atlan's scepter. As just one example. Of the dozens of things they did wrong here. But I don't blame them too much. From my understanding, Deathbattle is moving from being a Screw Attack property to being a Roosterteeth property, and I bet this episode was a casualty of the internal company politics involved in such a transition.
About the screw attack rooster teath thing. They aren't becoming a rooster teath show, they have been for a while because screw attack is owned by rooster teath. The thing that's changing is the name of the channel as screw attack will no longer exist, now it's just death battle because all the other shows that aren't death battle related is either on other channels or dead.
They specifically mentioned that namor fought "Savage" hulk. a very specific version of hulk that is VERY different from World Breaker Hulk.
Oh. Okay, I'm pretty ignorant of all that.
@@Ris_Grestar It's cool. I didn't expect you to know every single variant of hulk anyway XD
Keep in mind, Hulk isn't always strongest there is, so while taking on Hulk might seem like a powerful feat(and it is) it can vary depending on the situation.
That's true, considering it's different incarnation (depending on storyline)
Fox Shock yeah since it’s savage hulk
@@Die217 If it's Worldbreaker Hulk, then Namor is....
*snap my fingers*
Gone.
Yeh, he's sometimes not always fighting at his strongest, even with his savage aggresive nature.
Yeah as The Incredible Hulk was from back in the 70's to early 80's, cartoon and tv series version that could be a mountain breaker but not continent or world breaker level as he has become.
I did like the kill but Aquaman called the angler fish boys when only females have the light thing.
Looks like I learned something new today
He watched the Podcast
@@isaiahspivey550 Haha I know why you think that and yes I did watch the podcast but I already knew the fact before I watched the podcast.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 hmm XD I thought you just watched the Podcast and learned it just seem really convenient sorry for assuming m8
@@isaiahspivey550 It's fine.
Yes. That was Kame House from Dragon Ball in the background in that one moment. However, it is not Goku's house. It is Master Roshi's house.
Haha I'm just glad I was able to recognize it and get the name right, at least.
@@Ris_Grestar Goku lived there during his training in his teens (yes teens even though he looked like a small child) but hasn't in years. He and his wife Chichi and their kids live inland. Other characters live at Kame House besides Roshi though, primarily Turtle, who is a giant turtle and occasionally Roshi's steed. Sort of.
Spidey and Cap working together have managed to knock out Hulk once. Hulk's strength depends highly on his anger level.
And even if he was at his planet level phase when he fought Namor, Aquaman still has an answer to that by scaling to Wonder Woman and breaking Green Lantern constructs with his fish
Also, I'm sad that Rock is absolutely screwed in the next one due to one of his opponents being X
That's true; Hulk is only planet-breaking when he's absolutely pissed off (DB even brought up that Worldbreaker is the specific result of Bruce Banner completely giving in to his rage). Against comparatively minor nuisances like Spider-Man or Cap, Hulk is probably only wildly frustrated or somewhere around that level, whereas he was totally and almost irrevocably livid when he faced Sentry.
Namor matching Savage Hulk in a one-on-on is still incredibly impressive; lifting a 150 billion ton mountain is MUCH higher than anything most of the other heroes and villains brought by the Beyonder could do. Still, not up there with Worldbreaker's planet-wiping strength (the fact he stalemated Sentry proves that by itself). I've heard many people saying that scaling characters to Hulk is generally an unwise decision given his varied strength level, and I can see why. Meanwhile, characters Aquaman scales to are generally more consistent with their higher feats, like Wonder Woman and Green Lantern.
I must admit I don't know much about the Megamen other than they have power-up lists that rival Mario's and one of them got stuck on the Moon thanks to a hiatus and X is apparently designed in-universe to be better than Rock. Might there be some areas in which the OG Megaman overtakes his descendents?
They specified that Namor fought Savage Hulk, who is NOT strong enough to break planets. Plus Wonder Woman's strength is arguably just as high as the strongest the Hulk has shown.
Savage hulk is powerful enough to do that for your info,he is more then just a planet buster in power
@@blackdarkness6798 hulk has increased in power over time. namor fought hulk when his power was strong enough to hold Mahanta and no greater.
Not rlly
Hulk has took down an entire time line with a clap effortly torn through admantuin and has even torn through reality it's self
@@adamhogan5442 my boi that hulk is a later point in hulk's life. This is before he became planet busting. The hulk use in this research was the time hulk strength was capable of holding Manhattan and no more.
Did anyone see Ecco the dolphin?
Barry Bend Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that :D
@@anonymouscontributor1520 me too
They didn’t mention Hulk wasn’t full power during his and Namors battle
Nabor has beten Hulk servel times in the past.
@@ensvenskateist3564 hulk still wasn't full power
There is no such thing as full power hulk, because his powers are "potentially limitless" his strength depends on his mood. This is expressed in the famous quote "the angrier he gets the stronger he gets".
When they say "savage" hulk that means he isn't at full power.
@@KetaceanKyle Savage hulk is the original full powered hulk. Than today there are shitloads of over the top amped hulk versions.
Great video and to help clesr some things up: Hulk can be a planet buster but only at his angriest form: World Breaker. Namor matched regular Hulk so he can't really scale to Hulk's top strength. Talking about the telepathy they were more talking about their control over sea life. Aquaman's feats suggest stronger control over the sea life than Namor's. The seizure thing was just to have a cool ending (although aren't seizure's physical things? So mental defense wouldn't really work.. I think?)
I mean, I guess it'd depend on how the telepathic abilities worked? I don't know, comic book logic haha
Actually Grey Hulk, one of the weakest versions of Hulk, could destroy an asteroid many times the size of Earth and normal hulk was able to support the weight a star.
@@tenshi7784 It could very well be the case that those were exaggerations as neither Grey Hulk nor Savage nor even Green Scar has shown that level of power ever since.
@@theblasblas he constantly fights with Thor who is a casual planet buster. Silver Surfer is at least Star level and Thor can keep up with him.
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If Namor were a planet buster he wouldn't struggle with lifting that island. The logical conclusion is that Thor and Silver Surfer weren't taking him seriously.
I didn’t mind the reason they fought. I just thought it was a sort of dumb, fun little story that leads to a ridiculously out of control battle to the death. I’ve never personally minded the stories being that way.
Yeah, it's definitely not a concern to everyone. I just appreciate when thought is put into it. Gives the whole thing higher stakes, makes it generally more memorable, etc.
I thought it was a matter of respect; Remember, these are NOT two ordinary people who just happen to bump each other's shoulder walking down the street like in Yang vs Tifa or Jotaro vs Kenshiro, these are powerful kings who inherited command of the oceans. Disrespecting regular royalty in real life is already a HUGE no-no, so imagine doing something to offend a sea king who can summon storms and titanic sea monsters.
You can tell in their dialogue how prideful and mindful they are regarding their status: Namor outright calls Aquaman a "peasant" for splashing him - probably unaware he was talking to a fellow Atlantean king - and Aquaman felt the need to point out that fact out before launching his first attack which Namor clearly didn't hold in regard. It isn't so much that Namor got pissed because Aquaman splashed him, he got pissed because someone he viewed as a regular person had the nerve to disrespect someone of his status by treating him like an equal (which Aquaman literally was, but again, he didn't know that until after the fight started), and Aquaman fought back to essentially tell Namor "No, I'm not a normal guy who answers to you, I'm a king, you arrogant prick". Basically, it was Aquaman disregarding Namor's status that set him off, and it was Namor trying to prove his kingship over Aquaman's that truly set the fight in motion.
Let me make this clear; *I know absolutely nothing about the character of these two in the comics* so I don't know if this is really how they act, especially in a situation like this. I never read the comics they starred in or the TV shows in which they appeared in. This one animated battle is all I've seen of how they are, act and fight, so I could just as easily be completely wrong and sound like an idiot to someone who *has* read the comics or even seen the cartoons. This is just my interpretation of why the fight started, and it sure as hell didn't affect the quality of it.
Captain Murica and Bats both beat the Hulk,so did Tony in the Hulk-buster.Point is Namor,Cap,Bats and Tony,non of them got punched by a planet/continent busting attack in the their round with the Hulk and it wasn't a Death Battle.Characters don't usually go all out and that was the case with their fights.When a pissed off Hulk went for Blackbolt,Tony,Strange,MR fantastic and Prof X he was far more powerful than any time he battled Namor,yet he didn't destroy a planet or a continent and when he was dangerously close to such power,he was stopped with an attack that didn't endanger even the city they battled in or the on-lookers let alone a planet.While Aquaman keeping pace with Wonder Woman dose not need special circumstances to be a legitimate feat as her speed and power isn't dependent on rage.
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Ok, done
Next is a Megaman battle royal.
I didn’t notice Kame house in the background the first time. That’s cool. Makes me think of how Roshi and Jiraiya were fighting on that shore a while earlier. . .
Hey dean, couple things for you.
1: you should really check out the Death Battle cast, especially ones that follow an episode of DB. They address several questions that you might or in fact DO have about the fight.
2: yes, that was Kame House, owned by Master Roshi. This bit was made because the animator has had 3 beach-side animations in the past 6 months, Mario Sonic, Roshi Jiraiya, and this. So he decided to have a little easter egg fun in this one.
3: the "cartoon one" is Megaman Battle Network, and was a game for Game Boy Advanced before an animated series.
For some reason, when I saw your notification, I thought you were wearing an 18th century naval officers tricorne hat. Would have been fitting for this occasion.
haha If only.
When Death Battle said it’s coming back with a splash, this is what they meant.
FYI they mentioned in the bloopers that they decided that this season Wix's lines are different and there is not going to be a "Fight" to start the match.
Aquaman gave a Martian a seizure. Martians in the DCU are generally the premiere telepaths, but apparently had an ancient marine ancestor which allowed Aquaman to exploit in their brain. He has controlled humans and I think Superman (pre-Crisis) at some point as well.
Namor resisted mind control which is different from inducing seizures or whatever he did to Namor. Wonder Woman is no slouch either. I'm not sure how Savage Hulk compares, but they may be roughly equivalent feats in terms of durability/strength needed to keep pace.
The Mega Man Battle Royale involves the Classic Mega Man, Mega Man X, Mega Man Volnutt from Mega Man Legends, Mega Man.EXE from Mega Man Battle Network, and Geo Stelar from Star Force Mega Man
But no Model A( Grey).
The intro is gonna take forever!
@@barrybend7189 you mean the guy from the xz series? It's basically a kid wearing x and zero.
@@christiancrusader9374 no I mean the protagonist of ZX Advent Grey with his partner model A.
@@barrybend7189 and he doesn't wear x and zero? I never checked out the second game.
No you got it right, that's the house from DBZ in the background
The reason why the island lifting feat was compared to the continent breaker feat is that those are both a single instance of measurable forces. Using the fight against the Hulk isn't comparable because measuring the forces in that feat aren't feasible and fundamentally inconsistent.
After all, the logic "Namor fought the Hulk so he should be stronger than Aquaman" is using the same logic as "the Joker fought Superman so the Joker should be stronger than Aquaman." How much strength is used in an individual fight for such characters isn't constant and is unmeasurable without some specific detail to work off of (like how the specific attack Atlan used was capable of sinking a continent).
And as other people have mentioned, Hulk does have different tiers of power. He doesn't always his full power output or... well every time he fights he would cause mass devastation or death. The same way how Superman doesn't always use his full power against opponents, which is why people clearly not as strong as Supes can fight him and occasionally win (or at least not die horribly).
Hey you know what if you can could you think about reacting to the bloopers of death battle they are so good and so funny you'll enjoy them
So in the cast they awarded some of the questions you had. While Namore resisted purple guy to the effect that he didn't obey him he was still affected and that while he would definitely resist and overcome Aquaman mind control the battle to do so would give Aquaman the chance he needed to get kill blow in. Also Aquaman can supercharge marine life to the point of defeating Green lantern constructs.
Really looking forward to the next one covering all 5 main mega man versions and good tie in to your new channel. Been loving the mega man playthroughs
Idea for a new pokemon challenge. Beat pokemon Crystal with a party of only Catterpies.
Cheat to get 6 Catterpies, do no other cheating, use other pokenon only for HMs, defeat Red
Struggle can hit ghosts. So Morty and Silver's ghost pokemon can be bested by your 6 bugs.
I do agree with the result though I agree the story was pretty dumb. That set up might have been fine for more goofy characters but not the rulers of Atlantis.
Seems like a lot of folks have gone for the Hulk thing so I'll leave that alone and go for the telepathy thing. Aquaman probably couldn't actually control Namor but he didn't try to. Rather he caused a seizure. It's kinda like the difference between talking someone into doing something and just screaming really loudly in their ear to give them a headache. And there is canon support for him being able to do this; during a crossover event (I forget which one) Namor and his half-sister Namorita (imaginative naming in that family) were getting overwhelmed by undersea enemies so Aquaman came to their rescue by doing the seizure thing as an AOE. It knocked all of the enemies and Namorita out. Namor was able to remain conscious, due to being only half aquatic in his ancestry, but like in this battle he was paralyzed with pain until Aquaman let up.
This gives DC a two point lead in their fights with Marvel. And a four battle winning streak, which I think is a Death Battle record.
Thank you for clarifying!
@Ris Reacts I agree that they could have made that clearer rather than just saying "Aquaman's telepathy is more powerful" and leaving it at that.
Hulk's Strength Level isn't always consistent, it's more his strength grows and varies with his rage.
Every characters has inconsistencies
since I watch your gaming channel...I find the next Death Battle "Convenient"
Lol Right? What're the odds?
Namor never fought the Hulk when the Green Giant was mad enough that his strength was at World breaking levels... that's where your mistake was at.
The Telepathy Potency means that Aquaman can "negate" Namor's ability to call for fish help while still getting help himself... while also maybe distracting him in a way that Namor cannot mirror-match back at him.
Funny, I’m the first comment ^^
Anyway, I’m glad you are still enthusiastic about reacting to videos despite your indifference to them. The video was cute and charming as every other video you’ve made. Keep it up Dean!
Stay Strong and Safe
Goliath
Btw they said this in there podcast but there taking out the announcer to say fight as it more of a restriction to them and they said it would look weird on one of the fight
"You're such a terrific dumbass!" Says Aquaman LOL
No you were right, the Kame House is in the background I never noticed that
Just so you know, Namor could match Hulk's feat of lifting 150 billion tons but NOT World Breaker Hulk's feat pulling two tectonic plates together. That's a whole different ball game.
Plot twist, the anglerfish are girls.
"Get 'em boys" indeed
I tried to think of a thing to add to the story of why Namor is at a pool but I kept running into a thing that would not make sense.
Maybe it's like going to a restaurant versus cooking at home. You just want something different.
@BJGvideos Wouldn't the chemically treated water mess with their respective underwater breathing?
@@GriffinPilgrim Probably
@@BJGvideos Considering they've dealt with planetary threats and can literally sink islands with their power, I seriously doubt minor chemicals that don't even affect normal humans that much is gonna be enough to put them off a trip to the pool. They can probably just hold their breath like any other person, and like Namor was doing they wouln't necessarily have to be swimming (at least not the whole time).
Just a thought, would it really have made a difference if the lifeguard was on duty when Aquaman made that cannonball?
This fight got me a lot more interested in the ocean.
They often leave the “FIGHT” around there release dates.
maybe its a salt-water pool?
I want to see if I can get all the Mega Men showed: Rock, original game series, X, Battle Network, and I think the last one might be SSB, unless there is another sub-franchise Im not aware of
Yeah, apparently they are doing away with the whole "fight" things, for what I'm sure are reasons.
Aquaman didn't use the mind-control per-se, he uses the headache part
Namor has resisted that.
It appears that Death Battle may have given up on doing their fight animations before the fight starts.
Small heads to really anyone. But as of this season, they've actually decided to not include the "FIGHT" anymore to allow for more creative freedom in the writing.
Aquaman has been in a fist fight with Superman if i remember correctly.
Namor isn't as lame as they make him seem here. He's actually quite a competent, if not savage character. They just really didn't show off the best sides of his character for this battle.
They mentioned him fighting savage hulk and Thor. And aquaman beat wonder woman.
Ris maybe you should name your gaming channel "Ris Let's Play"
They really low-balled Aquaman and Namor, but Aquaman has fought people on Superman's level many times (Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman) so he also has planetary level feats like Namor fighting Hulk and Thor.
Scaling Aqua and Namor is a bit iffy, since they don't really have the equivalent feats like moving or breaking planets. Of course, fighting wonder woman and hulk are still impressive feats.
13:07
“Can’t Hulk basically punch the planet apart?”
Yes, when he’s at his limit.
This is why I really don’t like Power Scaling for this kind of theoretical debate. It assumes that a character’s ‘Power Level’ (ugh) is a static statistic as opposed to constantly being in flux due to any manner of outside circumstances. Yes, Namor can trade blows with Hulk on a _general_ basis. But if Hulk was to be, say, really cheezed off that day, Namor would have a harder time keeping pace.
It’s the same reason why Deadshot can tag Flash even though Flash is fast enough to break the sound, light, and even _time_ barrier. That doesn’t mean he’s going that fast _all_ the time. That’s Flash at the limit of his power, when adrenaline is riding high and he’s pushing himself beyond what he’s normally capable of. It’s not something he can just _do._ Just like how Hulk just can’t go ‘Hmph, puny planet.’, punch the ground, and blow up the earth.
"cartoon one"? These guys are all from games.
Classic
X
Legends
.exe
And (I think) StarForce.
I want to see you play battle network, as its a much harder megaman series imo.
So they said they got rid of the fight because it was getting awkward to add to the 3D fights breaking the flow of story intros
The cartoon Mega Man actually isn't included in the Battle Royale, those are all Mega Man variations from games.
Interesting things to note:
Classic Mega Man got a big buff from Mega Man 11 with the Speed Gear and Power Gear. With the Speed Gear he can slow down time around him, and with the Power Gear he can power up his Mega Buster shots and Robot Master copy abilities, similar to how X could charge them. Further modifying these abilities are parts you can buy, namely the Speed Gear Booster (normally Speed Gear slows down Mega Man himself as well, but with this Mega Man and his attacks move at normal speed), the Cooling System Infinite (allows Mega Man to infinitely use the Speed or Power Gear when normally using them too much would cause them to overheat), and the Awakener Chip, which gives Mega Man's Robot Master copy abilities infinite ammo.
I initially thought Mega Man Volnutt (the third Mega Man in the lineup, he's from Mega Man Legends) would be the first to die, as unlike the other Mega Man iterations his abilities are relatively tame, but after a bit of research I found what could POTENTIALLY be an ace in the hole for him. Legends takes place after the X series, and in the game you can actually find X's X Buster. According to the wiki, this is the last incarnation of the X Buster, which I interpret as "X's X Buster as highly as it can be upgraded". Roll Caskett can upgrade the X Buster, turning it into the Shining Laser, Volnutt's strongest weapon in the game, which can be upgraded to have infinite ammunition. If this weapon truly is stronger than X's Buster, he actually has potential to win, despite being weaker than the other Mega Man incarnations in every other category.
That said, I think Star Force Mega Man (the last in the line up) will win. While I've heard people say X is the strongest Mega Man, Star Force Mega Man has an attack called "Black End Galaxy". This attack summons a Black Hole to trap his enemies, and then he uses an energy blade to cut through it. Then it *_explodes._* Assuming whatever gets hit by this attack survives, they're then inflicted with a "gravity" effect, which prevents them from moving where they stand (though they can still attack), allowing SF Mega to follow up with more attacks.
Personally my favorite Mega Man is Volnutt, but I'm putting my money on Star Force.
Oh, maybe my memory's just flawed. I thought the Mega Man from the (newer) cartoon was the same as from the Battle Network games.
@@Ris_Grestar Based on what you mentioned in Megaman VS Astroboy, the "cartoon" Megaman you mentioned IS Megaman.EXE.
The cartoon/anime you're thinking about is Megaman NT Warrior, which is based on the Megaman Battle Network games. The 2018 cartoon, Megaman Fully Charged, is not related to any established series, and is almost completely ignored by the fanbase.
Side note, Megaman.EXE actually has a high chance of winning this. He has some pretty ridiculous feats that Death Battle can pull from, especially in the manga. So, assuming he's the one you're rooting for, you should be in for a fun ride.
@@Ris_Grestar I think the new cartoon on CN is it's own universe. I'm not 100% sure on that though, I was kinda hoping it'd be a sort of "Sonic Boom" situation where it'd actually be really good, but I gave up a few minutes into an episode, lol.
But yeah, there's so many different versions of Mega Man, you can't really be faulted for mixing some of them up. Truth be told there's a few more that aren't appearing in this battle!
I didn't know there was a 2018 cartoon haha My bad.
@@Ris_Grestar Are you rooting for any specific one ahead of time, just going off of what you've played or "I think this one looks coolest", or is that something you'll hold off on until you see the analysis?
Salty as the ocean salty as the sea
He don't need emotion to eat Namor's body
20:32 lol yeah, wiz had 6 fingers even on the first episode they had themselves animated
I never noticed that. did they actually mentioned it at one point (during the past DBs and DB previews) that Wiz has 6 fingers on his non-robotic hand or grew a 6th one?
Which I didn't notice at the time, but you'd think they'd have fixed that by now lol
7:30 Respect Aquaman, bois.
I can't believe ScrewAttack said Arthur had a hook hand it wasn't a hook it was a harpoon it looks nothing like a hook.
So.....if I splash Ris, is he gonna try to kill me?
Purple Man's telepathy is actually not all that strong in MARVEL. Theres better telepaths who have kicked his ass. Aquamans telepathy is specifically tailored to dominate and control all evolved forms of Marine Life.
Namor has matched the weakest version of Hulk. Not all hulk can break planets.
Aquaman has also held his own against Superman.
The main fact was that, DC decided aquaman to be one of their icons, thus Aquaman joined Justice League and went on to take part in many groundbreaking adventures, where is marvel's Namor is pretty much a side character.
Aquaman got good development in both powers and character over the years, giving him more feats, and making him OP gradually, but Namor, after his classic days, hasn't got much development at all.
I think it's because Aquaman's a generally more likeable character. Namor has a bias to humans (understandable considering the first he met were literal Nazis) and seems to have a stick up his ass while Aquaman seems more chill, humble and amicable. They kind of already have a human-hating arrogant mutant in the form of Magneto, who is already incredibly famous and well-known, so for Marvel to do that again with Namor could seem unoriginal and a cash grab.
Namor fighting the hulk doesn’t make him able to beat the hulk or even be equal in power. Hulk throughout his history hasn’t always been as strong. Aquaman himself has kept up with Wonder Woman and Superman, not strong enough to beat them but able to stand his own. Lastly Aquaman’s telepathy is being explored even more in comics now so for him to be able to immobilize namor has enough for the fish to eat him makes sense. Also who cares about the story it’s the fight that matters.
The specific hulk was not a planet destroyer
Actually Hulk can break the universe with one punch but that was after they fought he also accidently Destroyed New York with a little tap with he's foot to the ground Hulk can devinetly defeat superman
AkA World Breaker Hulk
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I’m sorry, which version of the Hulk is this?
Is there anything from DC Comics you like? just asking
Savage hulk is not world breaker hulk. World breaker hulk would stomp Namor into the ground whilst not even breaking a sweat.
Oh wow Ive just noticed you have changed your name to Ris Reacts wow I never notice anything im extremely sorry Dean.
the only victory Namor has is being actually the original and first designed.. that and with all this info seems like a very interesting character to read about, why there aren more comics about Namor?, eh Marvel?
From what I've seen, perhaps Namor has a habit of seeming like a racist prick? The first humans he encountered were Nazis - some of the most hateful and arrogant people ever - and if his reaction to Aquaman blowing off his accusation is any sign, he also happens to have a stick up his ass. The fact that his personality and hero-villain alignment seems to flip-flop is also likely a red flag compared to more consistent characters like Iron Man, Carnage and Ultron who have also been on Death Battle.
aqua man once punched superman into space so yes he's that strong and namor fought savage hulk not world breaker hulk
world breaker is leagues stronger than savage
Good reaction. You should also watch tge aquaman movie. I highly recommend it
Question: Should I watch the DC movies I haven't watched yet? I still need to watch: Batman vs. Superman, Justice League, Wonder Woman and Aquaman.
I'd say if you can catch them on Netflix or something, but...I wouldn't want to pay for them. (I haven't seen Justice League or Aquaman. BvS was too long and the good scenes were really just Batman, and the rest of the movie was meh, and Wonder Woman had its charming moments if you like "fish out of water" sequences but many things were dumb. [This is me trying to be spoiler-free.])
@@thecplman1 wonder woman and aquaman are worth watching, unlike justice league and batman v superman
I'd recommend to watch all of them but be prepared to be annoyed/disappointed by BvS (I recommend the Ultimate Edition) and Justice League. They have their good moments but are terrible in their execution on others.
And while they are not the best movies, Wonder Woman and Aquaman are really quite entertaining and enjoyable movies
Danny phantom vs jake long
Smiley boi is bacc
Please react to MLP with the last season coming out. I remember watching your early Death Battle videos and seeing you liked My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.
Poderia dobrar essa informação sobre o Aquaman x Namor , acho uma sacanagem quem gosta e não tem como têr o conhecimento da opniao americana 🤗
Namor fought the Hulk ok. Aquaman fought being far more powerful than World Breaker Hulk. So no Namor didn't have any advantage or chance of winning. I have said this countless times when it is MCU vs DCU. DCU will win 99.9 percent of the time cause DC characters are soooo OP where Marvel is vastly weaker
Are you high? Namor and Aquaman have the same abilities. Plus Namor is stronger and more durable than Aquaman. Namor fought thanos, hulk, sentry, and Hercules sooooooo yes he did have a chance of winning. You are obviously a dc fanboy I see.
Oh it was todd voicing nemor
Who's Todd?
Legoking 616 todd haberkorn. Hes a professional voice actor he did the voice of ling in FMAB (not to be confused with Troy baker who did greedling)
Wait. So, for this fight, they could get Todd Haberkorn to play Namor, but they couldn't get him to play Natsu in the Natsu vs Ace fight?
@@legoking6165 That was probably a legal thing, actors tend to have contracts that limit when they can play a character. For Haberkorn to voice Natsu in the DB he would have had to go uncredited (like JYB had to do when he played Ichigo in DB).
@@SakuraiHikari15
I see.
Just realised ris changed the name on this channel and now has a second channel guess that's why I stopped seeing his gaming vids pop up
Venom vs andndird 18
Yes they missed the fight in there
They didn't "missed" it they confirmed the fight logo isn't appearing anymore
This episode is by far the worst one I've seen. I agree with the result, knowing the characters, and in fact think the actual match up is FAR more one-sided than they made it out to be... but their reasoning is just bad. I mean they treat Aquaman going toe to toe with Wonderwoman as a speed feat, and not what it obviously should be, a strength feat. A feat much more comparable to the Hulk thing than blocking Atlan's scepter. As just one example. Of the dozens of things they did wrong here.
But I don't blame them too much. From my understanding, Deathbattle is moving from being a Screw Attack property to being a Roosterteeth property, and I bet this episode was a casualty of the internal company politics involved in such a transition.
About the screw attack rooster teath thing. They aren't becoming a rooster teath show, they have been for a while because screw attack is owned by rooster teath. The thing that's changing is the name of the channel as screw attack will no longer exist, now it's just death battle because all the other shows that aren't death battle related is either on other channels or dead.
Achievement Get: Be lamer than Aquaman.
Aquaman isn't lame.
@@christiancrusader9374 that's the point