Stop Calling It Overpowered - SK60B
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If you think this plane is too strong for it's BR, then consider another tier to fly at. Extremely easy to counter it, just keep it fast and don't rush into it.
0:00 - Ideal game
3:36 - Countering it
4:49 - Comparing it
10:22 - Average Gameplay
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The Virgin Gunpod User versus the Chad RB05A Enjoyer
Wait the sk60b used to have tracers? It’s my favorite plane outside of j21A-1 and T18B-57 even without them
@@iqstrats1250 all the swedish jets equipped with ADENs used to have tracers, they removed them because sweden had good radar gun tracking technology around the time and historically never used tracers because of this...they then proceeded to not add the thing that was the cause of their removal
one of the many big brain activities by gaiboob
@@molstad182 Ah. That makes sense. However, the satisfaction of using the SK60B at 7.0 to bring my SPJ into a high-tier ground battle, getting two kills, dying, then being able to turn off my engine in the SK60B and become invisible is still too much satisfaction
I had the 60b for about a month and still don't have the rb05 and plus I'm on console so I'm not even sure I should get it
The lack of situational awareness and target prioritisation is a real issue thesedays
I've never been great with this but after a break its so much worse... especially in tanks where its super important lol
I can imagine...In air RB it's no problem for me, but I tend to struggle with it in tanks :_D
Well since it faces people starting in jets after you grinded past the starter jets in swedish tree for this, i wonder why!
While playing props you gradually learn these abilities. The problem of today is that players tend to rush things. They either buy premium jets or grind rapidly with premium account, which results in a lack of experience at that high br. A few years ago that wasn't really possible or atleast less common. It is an undeniable truth that the overall player quality has decreased due to that rushing mentality.
@@theozonloch yeH, one of my old high school friends started war thunder recently and he already has jets because premium account and premium jets like meteor f mk8.... but he lacks the skill and discipline for it so it’s just not fun to see
sk60 is an air trainer really.. it is a trainer in wt also to teach people to keep their speed up :)
bro what you mean its op!!11111! he catch me when i was going 200kmh no fair ((((((
tfw all you have to do to counter this plane is to literally just follow the main rule of the jet gameplay)))))))))))
Or to follow rule 2 of prop gameplay :D
Speed?
whats with all the round brackets at the end of your sentence?
@@name18745 russians in games usually do smiley face or sad face without the eyes for some reason, so its a piss take
"You are at Tier V and you cant handle Zero ?" --> brutal yet true statement !
It’s basically the new r2y2 with its airspawn. It’s not overpowered but it is very annoying. It’s also low tier jets so not everyone understands how to use jets
Defyn exposed, didnt have the skills to post the real thumbnail
I swear every time I even slightly begin to stall an SK60 spawns out of nowhere just to kill, the moral for me was to not stall in jets
THANK YOU. I’m so sick of people calling it overpowered. People need to realize that any jet can punish them for flying poorly.
Exactly
look at 7.7 American Jet team.... oof feels bad for them😝😝
@@leonardochristophe29 even i can't carry them with my f89b and i'm good at energy fighting
No, it's op. Play the Me-262
@@quartzlandaker5664 WRONG
Always a pleasure watching your videos! ♥
Great flying!
Not over power, usually for me they are a easy kill. Its just a mather of how you fly.
It really is a easy thing to counter as long as you keep your speed up
Thats kinda the whole point of the video
you don't understand, the top speed doesn't matter because this plane has better 1960s aerodynamics... whatever the fuck that means
Don't you know? In 1962 God put down an aerodynamics patch which made all Swedish planes produce only half the induced drag they used to!
It plays like the r2y2 used to with air spawn but with arguably better flight performance and better guns
Something that makes me curious, is if the SK60 is decent at zoom climbing after short dives to store the energy (kind of like the old "MiG-15 vs Sabre" BnZ stuff)
Nope, it bleeds energy really fast
Finally someone gets it, thanks for the video!!!
Defyn: "It's not overpowered"
Me: glances over to 297 kills to 31 deaths
Glances over to 101 kills to 1 death
People suck at fighting this thing, it doesn't make it overpowered. Look at the video, almost everyone i killed was a dumbass or i 3rd partied
What controls do you use so you can move with mouse whilst in freelook backwards? or are you just freelook and using WASD?
I was that first Ho 229 you yeeted there on Afghanistan. It was my like 4th game in the wooden plane and I thought "oh look sweedish boi, try this turn!" And I got promptly sent to the hangar. At least I got 2 kills that game :D But I'm still learning how to fly the Horten
One thing I like to do with the SK60 against planes with higher speed is if they’re on my six, I just resort to a few aileron rolls, and that somehow messes up the opponent’s aim, and he overshoots and ends up on my crosshairs. Also instead of going in on headons, I like to turn slightly away from the opponent, to bait the plane into a turn fight that I will easily win, despite the gunpods. All this to makeup how much speed I don’t have. Too bad no tracers tho, but I got used to the aim.
A lot of people claim its OP, because it can be called that in ground RB with those RB05 missiles, which have more TNT equivalent than the HE round on a Yamato, and some of the lyddite explosive shells on the new British BBs. And the RB 05 also has a proxy fuse
As an avid me262a1u1 user, I confidently shred migs and sabres and I have no problem with disposing of these with a single burst. One gripe I do have is the ability to carry missiles
These are mostly harmless to fighters unless Sk 60 pilot is an absolute mad lad AND the target does not move at all.
Those missiles are bane of space stations though, don’t even try to hide on orbit with a Tu-4 from this thing. Which is a good thing, finally we have a plane to hard counter passive behavior.
@@EriIaz adding missels to that jet makes it even more OP and ruins experience for bomers
It's less a problem of the jet having missiles and more a problem of Gaijin not having adapted bomber gameplay to fit with newer aircraft
@@EriIaz They are actually quite good against fighters too. Just put missile controls on numpad and learn how it flies, you can intercept lots of fighters and attackers that aren't looking around enough.
@@no0ns I have it on numpad already. Gotta say, not my thing. I am not one of the people who have 2000 hours of molesting tanks with G.91 or something, so I am not too good with things like that, lol. Fighters are too small and agile for it, and you are approaching them head on, maybe with a lot of angular velocity, so you don’t have a lot of time to adjust and may need a lot of adjusting. One tiny maneuver - and the missile is no more. It’s 2 attacks and you know, I am doing better that this already. Best case scenario, you get 2 kills with missiles and you are out of ammo, realistically it’s 1 kill and RTB where you are likely to be strafed. Meanwhile with ADENs you have much more potential. These are lovely guns, ammo load is adequate too, so with good conventional aiming skill, you can get much more than 2 kills. Like, 4-5 kills. Or 2 kills and some light pillboxes. And you stay in the air much longer.
Maaaybe in the distant future all the noobs who try turnfight SK60 realize they have to stop doing that, maybe in this case this strategy will be better, but definitely not now.
Lol people at tier 5 stalling in front of enemies and turninfight at 300kph calling. Things over powered...
What an absolutely beautiful shot at the f80
I agree with everything but at 2:36 that's cap
ADENS at 7.3 are better than any other gun at that BR
Sure the guns are good, but he wont even get to use them if you play your cards right against it
I think you might be forgetting the fact that 1. you only have 300 rounds and 2. the bullet speed is slower than tank shells.
Edit: These aren´t adens...
@@danielzaba9913 I have the G91 R/3, it has ADENS too and I can safely say they're the most deadly cannons in the game, you have to land even just one shot and you rip off a wing/set the engine on fire on any aircraft
I don't think I ever got a spark with them
As for the velocity, besides the fact that it fights Me-262s that have the MK108s, (the worst gun in the game), it's honestly quite similar to that of other cold war era 30mm cannons such as the DEFAs and the NR-30s for example
300 is already 50 shells more than the G91 R3 and it's enough to kill at the very least 4 aircrafts
The fire rate is enough to make the guns effective but not too high as to make you empty the magazines after a 1 second spray
@@danielzaba9913 Akan m/55 is the Swedish designation of the ADENS btw
@@gian.4388 First of all the G.91 R/3 doesn´t have adens, it has DEFA. As a matter of fact I would say DEFA is deadlier than adens, however they are pretty close. Also the DEFA 552 cannons found on the G.91 have a slightly higher muzzle velocity.
Second of all, my bad, they might be Adens, however the cannons on the SK60 are far apart and not nose mounted like the adens you might find on for example the hunter. For some reason, they are also drastically less accurate as they were made for the attacker role. Meaning that you have to spray more. Not to mention that the adens you find at top tier, are arguably easier to aim, as your jet would have higher speeds, therefore closing the distance faster and allowing you to shoot at the precise moment.
So unless you lead quite a lot or are within 0.2km you will not hit your target.
It´s kinda useless to compare this aircraft to the G.91 as that jet has much better flight performance and is within a totally different br bracket and meta.
So to conclude....is the akan on this thing good? Yes. Is it very good? I would say not really. But even then, they´re the only weapons it´s got, so it might be a bonus for the plane, but just like Defyn said, if you find an actually competitve pilot, unlike most of the people that think they can turn with it, then this thing won´t even come close to being able to do anything, especially if multiple people target it, or you find someone that climbs above you and knows how to energy fight, or if the people that are engaging just run away as most planes have better dive speed and overall speed than this thing.
And when I say run way, I mean actually run away, not dive doing some weird maneuvers in an F80 just because your plane rolls well.
But if you manage your energy and play your strength´s, or rather IT´S weaknesses you should be able to manage this thing.
Edit: And btw comparing it to the me262 is also kinda redundant in my opinion, as we all know the me262 is unfortunately kinda crap at this moment, so all other planes can dominate it, not just the sk60.
Oh and one last thing...DEFA and NR-30´s are actually kinda different...I would say adens are slightly similar to DEFA, and slightly less to NR-30´s.
time to call it overpowered, its overpowered.
Update for the SK60, No swedish 30mm has tracers anymore.
What do I do in props against it. I need a little bit of guidance is all
how did you get tracers?? i thought the sk60 didnt have that
Before i rant , that was some incredible gameplay ,
Recently got the squadron Me 262 , the SK60B with air spawn makes it incredibly hard to side climb or at least get some altitude.
The SK60B isn't over powered , but its air spawn is literally the bane of 262 fighters. The 262 was built for boom - zooming play-style against enemy bombers, climb , dive , climb , rinse and repeat. could you possibly make a video playing any me 262 , on countering these flying cancers. At this point I've given up on the ME 262 , heck even the R2Y2 because of their expensive repair costs.
The "overpowered" part is also amplified by the fact that almost every A2D only cares about dropping their load and doesn't want to contest the enemy attackers
Dropping their load (>/////
well tbf, with A2D, if you have your payload, you are worse than a brick. You can only achieve inevitable headons with it when you have payload. Once you make 90 degree turn, you are slow brick.
how do you get the trysers
With the last update they actually destroyed its engines, literally, it doesn’t accelerate at all
This game would be so easy if only it werent for those darn flying planes everywhere
good video
Before the video, this definitely isn’t op. I’m not the best player but I’ve used both and had no issues countering them because you don’t have to turn. It also is difficult to escape after you get a kill if you actually have enemies that are keeping speed.
In so glad someone finally said this
Its really fun to dogfight sk60's in the a2d-1. I just climb above everyone then bnz starting at the highest alt enemy fighter first then turnfight as a last resort. The skyshark has an amazing rate of climb combined with its airspawn and 4 20mm cannons makes it a lot of fun!
Wish my any of my a2d teammates even understand what it means to climb. This thing is easily countered by a2d and i've had a match where 2/3 of my team is a2d and none of them even stay above 1.5km alt
@@piscessoedroen lol same
10:14 that F7F really ate your jet for breakfast huh
Aden cannons are not overpowered a t 7.3...... Compare that to the 262 cannons. They fire slow and the round is super slow as well. Those things are like death lasers.
The cannons are but the plane itself isn't
Yea and you think you can outrun them in a straight line with a me262 they can cruse 700kmph+ in a straight line and with a shallow dive its no point and if that thing dosent catch you hes staying on your ass so other jets like F89 meteroid can come and adding missels to that plane like WTF players who use the B 29s climb to like 7km alt because
1 those guns dont do much damage and if they do you've already lost your tail or a wing
2 the shitty insane repair cost
3 if you successfully bombed all the targets and airbase they gonna camp up because if they try to land they gonna get intercepted and the repair cost still gonna be high than what the player has gained
It is sad that they removed tracers from these guns.
Kun je de mig 19 S reviewen?
The only problem that i have with it is its attacker airspawn
Without it, it would be unplayable. Also it is an attacker.
@@thecreativecurator7829 stfu
@@_lliu3oqppehu9l_83 What a thought through and convincing argument. Please elaborate.
@@thecreativecurator7829 the only one real problem of this plane is airspawn, without it would be just decent
And now on some maps it can abuse R2y2 scenario
What range for guns?
F for the F7F
The F7F deserves it
I died a lot from it
@@flak8842 because you are trash, lol
@@flak8842 why lol the F7F definately doesn't deserve staying at 6.7
is not overpowered.... BUT! the airspawn.... is like the days of the r2y2
If it had no airspawn it would be balanced
10:05 careful, it eats jets as a breakfast ^^
...........It’s Overpowered!
**runs away giggling**
It's pretty cool, fun, but : good turning/bad energy retention/ bad speed
Good cannons/ low ammo
Easily outrunned
Please post key bindings!
your videos are enjoyable even if I do not play the game
Can you please do a video on how to fly jet fighters
So would you rather fly this or a f80-a5 because trying to grind jets right now is a little bit of a pain.
@Goku Vegeta oh do you fly alot against the sk60 in your f80, do you win all those matches
I flew the f80 about 40 games the last week or 2 and I have yet to die to an sk60
I've lost to tickets and full uptiers and that's pretty much it
The f80 shits all over this thing
@@DEFYN well shoot, if you say its true then I wont deny it, but vids or it didn't happen, lol.
Videos soon :)
The only real issue i had with the thing was when it was being spammed out like no tomorrow.
watching defyn dogfight is like watching an anime battle where the underdog bodies everyone
The main weakness of the Sk60B is it's energy retention and weak engine
DEFYN can you do a guide of how to aim with bullpups or Nord missiles to get air kill ?
as a me262 pilot I don't like fighting against sk60's
What Gun convergence are you using?
Check the description. He always lists his set up there 🤘😎
Would you rather play this or sea meteor for 7.3?
Sea meteor no contest
I love playing the 262 but my God is this BR unbalanced af. Everything does everything better than you do. There is absolutely no reason axis teams should ever win, especially since the allies have the Kikka's now to. Yet, I have a 53% winrate because I hardly ever see competent allied teams. Most of the losses aren't even everyone dying. A lot of the time it's just a B57 or B29 that went to space, or in the case of the B57 nobody can catch it.
I find the MiG 9 (not the late) to have a similar issue to the entry 262s where it honestly should either be at a lower br or some other kind if adjustments to the br range should be done for it to become competitive, considering the fact that the MiG 9 Late has better everything while remaining at the same br.
Well I mean, its clear it isn't near to overpowered, but I understand why I feel better playing this jet than in another early swede one, it plays like a prop and well, I just got started to that tier so it kinda feels like what I'm used already since the J21RA fcking breaks so early and the tunnan is a barrel
It's an R2Y2 scenario, the plane is perfectly balanced, but the airspawn it has gives you a huge advantage over everyone else at the start of the match, when all the trash early Jets have barely any speed or altitude built up.
The airspawn helps a little
but if you dont climb into it then it won't even be able to use its energy against you because it's so slow.
If you just dive away from it or just straight line it cant touch you, even at the start of the game as long you dont climb directly into it
DEFYN yeah. Right now I get 2-3 kills right off the bat from me262s climbing very slow and I can just cut around the side and catch them all in the middle of their climb.
Well to fix this all you do is side climb boom, don’t rush into the battle straight away. Have patience
So we can just consider Planes like G 91 and Saab 105 Equal to Mig 9 or god forbid Mig 15.
There is no advantage in 20 years of refinement and technology at all.
There's no Difference between BMW E30 and a Triumph Spitfire?
One is barely holding for its life at 130Kph and one is cruising.
Sry M8 I will never agree to that statement. Before Mig 29s My country Used 21s and Domestic made Eagles and Hawks 25 years younger design. Although Neither were capable of Mach and played "second fiddle" to Mach 2 Mig. In a real life combat scenario Pilots compared them To Flying a Cesna vs getting yeeted in a tin bucket at Mach speed. And Migs were last ditch effort.
It matters and that's why WT is sick when it comes to BR and matchmaking.
Ease of use doesn't warrant BR and that's a problem. Mig 9 can go at higher speed but its an American car there It can only go straight. While you have almost 100% control at your top speed. Not even remotely relatable. And that's before you even mention armament.
Its only there because its no match for faster modern planes so let it club old planes because F old planes we need them to grind the new stuff.
Because face it Noone is gonna come to WT new And be like: Oh Cool I'm gonna grind Sweeden and Play a Saab 105...
Its gonna get played by people who know how to counter all other planes it faces.
All vehicles in war thunder are balanced based on their relative performance, not on the year of introduction. It's why the HMS Dreadnought, a ship from 1906, is a full 2 battle ratings higher than the Albatros-Klasse ships, which were made 70 years later. Of course, the newer vehicles are going to have some design quirks which make them better than their older counterparts, but their advantages are typically offset by other factors like in the case of the MiG-9 and the SK60 is the MiG's superior top speed and in the case of the Dreadnought is the fact that it's a considerably higher weight class of ship.
@@jblack1593 Thank you Mr Stona for explaining to me the Wheel is round. Now If you wanna Read a bit you may find a point. Oh Is My Russian that bad let me help you.
Factors other than Dry stats affect performance of ANY vehicle/vessel and play often significant impact to the final performance and ability of the operator.
Sadly WT implements such details yet it does not take them in consideration to nearly any reasonable degree.
As Reality Does not apply to Wt since the limitations both Technical and intentional in nature.
To Present an example in plain sight. I will use M18 hellcat. Very capable and significant asset to US forces in WWII. Yet but a fraction of cancer that M18 is in WT.
Why you might ask. Well because the 5 dude-bros inside didn't wanna get an 88 or any sort of swastika labeled hot Steel inside their vehicle. Which even if they survived they may be court-martialed for jeopardising greater goals of the Allied troop combined effort. So No YOLO Swag Rush cap-knife fighting Tigers. And yet it exists. Because WT. And because its easily abused. Such is in Planes Some advantages reap no benefits because of partial disbalanced implementation. And some have not so obvious but Significant advantages that literally make one player Sweat balls to get guns on target and the other Pull 12G at Near Full speed Because of technological refinement took 30 years but they aren't implemented as a factor.
Its not A jet problem its a generation problem in WT but its most prominent in jets. 2 generations of vehicles have NO business fighting each other regardless of capabilities on paper.
So they didn't rush the cap and Yolo.
Thank You for your very short attention span I hope I didn't take too much of your time precious moderator time.
keep your speed
a2d: cries in vain
The only problem I have is that it destroys b29s from like 5km away with them missles. Got any tips for how to deal with that?
don't play bombers
Just be aware of incoming missiles, on jets you got to be aware of your surrounding all the time.
@@frankymr2 as easy as that sounds the b29 flies... like a bus... with 4 flat tires... without a engine... and on fire... its hard to maneuver away from the missile even when it is 1.5km away
@@jblack1593 oh I dont all the time but losing 3 teammates at the start of a battle is annoying fuck
@@jackprochaska7278 you lost them when they decided to play bombers, sorry
How to counter this thing in a F3D/A2D/Thunderjet?
You go like twice as fast
Just treat it like a zero and it can't do shit
You can land on the central airfield, its long enough to be able to land any plane there.
shut lmao
You should do a video on the gamepass or the game pass f2g-1 plane
I will when i get it
F2G atm worse than F4U-4b but 1.0 br higher
@@_lliu3oqppehu9l_83 personally Im more excited to see how it's race camo looks
@@DEFYN awesome, no big RUclipsrs have made videos about it yet, no one's unlocked it
Yeah afaik I will be able to request it in like 2 weeks roughly, il try to cover it as soon as I get it
As I say in my games, “Haha Akan m/55 go brrrr”
No bully tigerkitty!
It's not an op plane, but there is a reason we still use it as a trainer in Sweden to this day
My main counter to this thing is the F89B, due to its ability to outclimb, outgun and outenergy those sk60's.
Took me a minute to realize its a two seater plane 😂
It just is. There is NO way to counter this plane, if you play B29 or Tu. A plane like the B29 or any piston propelled aircraft should NEVER have to face guided missles.
Wait until you get the premium one with aim9Js at 8.0
It got nerfed it has Aim-9B's now... same BR tho
Ok. Play the me262 or the F3D and go against these sk60s 7 to 1
If your team only has one sk60 then they can take care of it, but if your whole team is mostly sk 60 who are always above you. And keep in mind this sk60 can technically go against the F8F-1B and P-51H-5
Ho 229 seems way too survivable for a wooden plane.
I hate it because it has rockets. That’s all. I died with 0 idea of where the person was to a rocket and got pissed at it
5.7 -7.7 is a fuckingmess right now it’s a weird mix of props and jets and totally out tiered clubbers
Dude I go like 6 games without getting a kill in air RB I don't understand how people are this good.
you using stock then its normal
Next plane wich GJ made useless
SK60B are dead short after their arrival.
Next week the repair cost raised to 23k stock
Still trying to figure out if gaijin has a brain because it's hard to tell at times it seems they do and then at the same time they don't
Don’t turn with this thing.... don’t head on........ just force it to descend by baiting it and use your teammates
I see JBlack also comes from the school of the offensive Ar 234 B-2.
Everybody will get nervous if they see an arado coming at them, even me and i only play f89
@@piscessoedroen 3head
I kinda hate the look of the gun pods, i think its only me then :)
yea but how about p51s
If only the repair cost wasn't 30k
Well... fine i usualy only face this plane in a Me 262 but then the 262 needs some fixing because the SK 60 is better in every way.
But spitflyer said f7f eats jets for breakfast now 😂
Yeah the people call I this op are the same guys calling the gr1 balanced at 9.7
When the sk60 gets fully uptiered to 8.3 then it isn't op
Bro 4:58 why did he sing that stat haha wtf
The SK60 isn’t over powered it just makes other jets underpowered. In other turn fight jets now have to extend out most of the time and they are slow and get caught by other jets. So now you play fast jets or the SK60
Well I hate to break it to you but fighters/ attackers aren’t meant to be slow. The issu is pilots stall out infront of the sk60 or climb straight into the battlefield with no speed or just like dog fight horribly stall out and yeah booom
@@Euler2705 I’m not taking about dumb players stalling out I’m taking about planes like the vampire sea hawks and other slower jets that need to turn fight like the SK60 but can’t compete with the sk60
@Goku Vegeta once again I’m not saying the SK60 is op. I’m saying the that it displaces a lot of other jets like the VAMPIRE SEA HAWK AND OTHER SLOWER JETS THAT RELY ON THEIR TURN ABILITY. I have not once mentioned US jets. I am saying that these slower jets are turned to shit because now they are slow and can’t turn fight. Read my fucking reply and stop seeing what you want
Some early jets can’t even accelerate to a 500kph speed when these things doom the adens over their heads in small maps. What else does it need to be overpowered?
That's on 2 maps, which you don't see a lot.
Or at all. I have been playing this BR for the last week and ive seen a map like that once.
On these maps, yes it's overpowered in the grand scheme of things it's not
Also might I add any plane will perform if the pilot is good so if u take the time to learn then mabye just mabye you will find yourself able to kill them. And the early jet 500 kmh thing dude like at this br this is prolly the slowest plane lol. Also defunct is right I never see those small maps ever. You can easily side climb and get above these things it’s just most jet players never do it.
What about the f84g with the airspawn? That thing has all it takes to be the meta but it won't because nobody flies it right
its the airspawn that makes this thing op nothing else is special its just the fact that it gets an airspawn to bmz anyone: like you said if this was a prop you could have still gotten those kills but the only reason you in a osition to get them is because of the airspawn
Then don't climb into it and it's airspawn is worthless
@@DEFYN and how am i supposed to win a match just running away from a plane? if they retain their alt advantage it takes a while to outclimb them to be able to safely deal with them
they have to come down to attack anything and everytime they do anything they lose speed.
just treat it like a zero
@@vincentcasserole226 you don't even have to outclimb them, just stay fast when engaging them
Why did you have to say that.
Now gaijin is adding 2 more of them.
Just remove its airspawn or give every other an airspawn, airspawn makes any plane way better
Well I am going turn fight a zeros with my mach 2 jet and then complain that zero is OP.
I can't understand why this thing have 30k + repair cost.
rip F7f